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[01-Apr-2008 00:04:08] <Ozux> damon, Sub interfaces? Is there and doc|man for this?
[01-Apr-2008 00:09:57] <damon> if you are running apache on a nix environment, you may want to create sub interfaces that you can attach each vhost too so that you can grab the traffic counters off of the interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:10:34] <damon> if its a windows box, you may be able to pull the information you are looking for right from wmi
[01-Apr-2008 00:12:36] <Ozux> damon, i use debian and centos, but unfortunately we use plesk and cpanel so i think using this method is not possible, is it?
[01-Apr-2008 00:15:12] <Ozux> and , do i need specific ip for eatch sub-interface?
[01-Apr-2008 00:17:00] <damon> ozux, i haven't dealt much with cpanel/plesk, but i would think that you would be able to rig something up. yes, you would need an ip for each sub interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:18:49] <damon> anyone know where a copmlete list of TALES device attributes could be found. i am looking specifically for the Tag attribute
[01-Apr-2008 00:21:07] <Ozux> damon, It's good solution, may be for Gold customers. But for 3000 custommers, writing new app is better than buying 3000 Valid IP ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:24:14] <damon> ozux - thats alot of sites - not sure on your infrastructure and application design etc, you might nat, vlan or share the ips
[01-Apr-2008 00:25:58] <damon> we have exclusivly a windows environment in our web farm (aside from my zenoss box), so if there is another way with apache i wouldn't be able to help
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:53] <Ozux> mmm, vlan is best, if i can't find software,script or solution i should dirty my hands with vlan and sub interfaces ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:56] <damon> ...so needless to say i am happy zenoss won't run on windows or i am sure management would force my hand to switch platforms
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:11] <damon> ok, well good luck with that -one nice thing about the whole virtual paradigm, - quick and easy to setup test labs and experiment
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:32] <damon> Ozux - are you doing any asset management with zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:28] <Ozux> damon, in fact no, ZenOSS is Pilot project, We are testing ZenOSS, Zabbix and Nagios for our Nexet,Central solution
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:39] <Ozux> s/Nexet/next
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:12] <Ozux> mow we have lots of cacti and mrtg and home-made scripts and awstat
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:20] <Ozux> s/mow/now
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:30] <Ozux> and managing all of them is impossible!
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:40] <damon> i see. yeah i can imagine!
[01-Apr-2008 00:32:26] <damon> have you seen zenoss's httpmonitor zenpak?
[01-Apr-2008 00:51:14] <Ozux> it monitor whole http transfer _i think_
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:23] <damon> it works really nice for websites: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:39] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 01:02:23] <damon> interesting little bot...
[01-Apr-2008 11:10:56] <hanthana> guys can we set alarms for zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 11:12:43] <DarkMats> Under preferences there are alerting rules. Is that what you're after?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:43] <sajithr> Is ZenOSS fail to monitor processes that has long command paths (i.e. java) using REGEX?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:56] <sajithr> can somebody help me with this?
[01-Apr-2008 15:47:47] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know anything about creating a page with several graphs on it?
[01-Apr-2008 15:57:20] <sajithr> is anybody know why ZenOSS's regex used to monitor processes are not behave as same as regex used with grep?
[01-Apr-2008 15:58:37] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: because it is Python Regex
[01-Apr-2008 16:08:04] <sajithr> ok..thanks..
[01-Apr-2008 16:09:40] <sajithr> Bulwinkle, Is ZenOSS can't evaluate regex across long command name (i.e java processes) while monitoring processes?
[01-Apr-2008 16:10:15] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: it should be able to evaluate any expression
[01-Apr-2008 16:16:48] <jberry> Hey, can anybody give me pointers on setting up httpmonitor? I've looked through the howto, but keep running into brickwalls
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[01-Apr-2008 17:24:24] <Funky_> Anyone ever try to set up thresholds from JMX data sources?
[01-Apr-2008 17:29:30] <jberry> Man, I gotta say, I completely cringe every time I try to use zenoss. I find the interface completely non-intuitive. It's never clear what I need to change where to make something work. It's like poking in the mud with stick.
[01-Apr-2008 17:32:33] <Funky_> jberry, try using the zenpacks :/
[01-Apr-2008 17:33:40] <jberry> Funky_: I'm trying to use the httpmonitor zenpack, but unclear how to proceed. The howto talks itself in circles without saying what to do.
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:03] <jberry> Can you give me any clues?
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:25] <jberry> I'm stuck on the paragraph "Complications" http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor/
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 17:35:00] <jberry> thanks, adytum-bot: yup. that's the page alright
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:07] <Funky_> jberry, i haven't used it sorry... I'm still trying to get the zenjmx pack to work
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:26] <jberry> ah, I see, another fellow sufferer.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:42] <Funky_> just a warning
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:54] <jberry> And just to think that jmx was next on my list after I got the simple thing of trying to monitor http done.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:55] <Funky_> there is hardly anyone in here that actually helps out much
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:05] <Funky_> and it takes days to get any kind of answer on the forums
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:15] <Funky_> that's IF you get an answer
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:26] <jberry> damn, maybe I should give up on zenoss
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:37] <Funky_> I'm trying to convince my boss of the same thing...
[01-Apr-2008 17:38:35] <Funky_> but in all honesty aside from the massive amounts of bugs zenoss is one of the more interesting monitoring apps
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:26] <jberry> Hmm. Too bad it's usage model is unpentrable by me and its documentation seems to suck so badly.
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:55] <jberry> Can you tell I'm frustrated?
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:07] <Funky_> I'm just as frustrated I can assure you
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:18] <Funky_> I think the docs were written by someone who's first language isn't english
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:28] <Funky_> some sentances don't even make sense
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <Funky_> but the model isn't too bad
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:44] <Funky_> it's an inheritence based model
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:12] <Funky_> I actually think that's one of the thigns zenoss does well (when it works)
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:27] <jberry> I get that feeling, but the interface doesn't really reflect the inheritence, so it's hard to figuure it out.
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:00] <Funky_> i agree
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:29] <Funky_> the correlation between events, classes and eventmappings etc are not very apparent
[01-Apr-2008 18:07:30] <Dittohead> Hi, I'm getting the following two errors in my ZenWinModeler log: "ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)" & "WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping [$SERVER] has bad wmi state" The login details are correctly set in zProperties. Thanks!
[01-Apr-2008 18:49:50] <jp10558> jberry: what is the question on Complications for HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 18:50:08] <jp10558> I recently started using that zenpack and have it working pretty well for *simple* monitoring
[01-Apr-2008 18:55:58] <jberry> jp10558: thanks for the reply. The how to for httpmonitor contains a section on "complications" (which I appear to fall into).
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:13] <jberry> But the suggestion on how to deal with the complications fly over my head, as a newbie.
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:57] <jberry> While it looks like I might be able to get through the howto in normal terms, I can't figure out how to approach the workarounds that are vaguely suggested in the howto.
[01-Apr-2008 18:57:20] <jberry> Any thoughts?
[01-Apr-2008 19:00:54] <jp10558> Well, I guess the first question is - what complication are you expecting to run into?
[01-Apr-2008 19:02:39] <jberry> That howto says that if I'm monitoring a website www.example.com, and if monitor that same server for other factors as foo.example.com, that I'll get errors, and that I need to take a completely different approach than what's described in the howto, which is where I get lost.
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:04] <jp10558> Oh
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:05] <jp10558> ok
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:16] <jp10558> that's actually dead easy to do, just mostly forget the HowTo
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:31] <jberry> and...do what?
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:51] <jp10558> Well, most of the how to is right, but really - the complications section seems wrong
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:00] <jp10558> all you have to do is install the zenpack
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:08] <jberry> okay, htat's done.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:13] <jp10558> and figure out how you want to apply it to machines
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jberry> don't know how to do that.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jp10558> this may be what they're trying to talk about
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:36] <jp10558> It comes down to what class (group) you want to use here
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:40] <jp10558> so if, you have for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:58] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:05] <jp10558> right...
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:09] <jberry> sure
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:12] <jp10558> and not all the systems are web systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:17] <jp10558> you'd normally create a subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:24] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux/Web
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:25] <jp10558> say
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:34] <jp10558> but, if some you want to do HTTPMonitor on
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:37] <jp10558> and some you don't
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:45] <jp10558> you have to figure how you want the classes to match up
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:58] <jp10558> that is, I've done Device/Server/Linux/Web/HTTPmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:13] <jp10558> and put the ones that I want all monitoring PLUS HTTPMonitor in the subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:33] <jp10558> but if every system in Device/Server/Linux/Web *should* have HTTPMonitor watching it
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:37] <jp10558> then you wouldn't need to do that
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[01-Apr-2008 19:07:53] <jp10558> I actually ended up doing subclasses for apache, but had HTTPMonitor apply to all web classes
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:04] <jp10558> Now the problem here, is I have to do it *again* for my Windows systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:22] <jp10558> I think that's OK, but you may not
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:41] <jberry> If I already have a device configured under Device/Server/Linux, how do I move it to Device/Server/Linux/Web?
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:45] <jp10558> however, there really isn't a good way to bunch Windows and Linux webservers together at a deeper monitoring level than *just* HTTPMonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:01] <jberry> Guess they need multiple inheritance...
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:03] <jp10558> Well, there's a dropdown
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:36] <jp10558> Let me find it
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:43] <jberry> Thanks for your help, btw
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:53] <jp10558> No problem
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:03] <jp10558> I'm not paying Zenoss so I figure I can help people out
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:08] <jp10558> so they can help me out when I get stuck
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:19] <jp10558> So, in the Device List
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:24] <jp10558> from the main management screen on the left
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:33] <jp10558> you can check the box on the left column next to the devices
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:49] <jp10558> There's the little down triangle just to the left of Device List in the blue header
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:55] <jp10558> that has Move To Class option
[01-Apr-2008 19:11:55] <jberry> Ah, yes, I think I see it.
[01-Apr-2008 19:12:03] <jberry> Thanks, I'll poke at this for a bit.
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:22] <jp10558> Does that clarify anything?
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:41] <jberry> yes, so far. I'll see if now I can follow the rest of the howto given that start.
[01-Apr-2008 19:15:41] <jp10558> The tricky part gets where you're binding the template, so feel free to ask if there's a question - well, it's a bugger with binding *any* template
[01-Apr-2008 19:22:49] <jberry> So I create a datasource of type httpmonitor, but I can just leave the parameterized hostname and ip address alone (${dev/id})?
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:31] <jp10558> Yea
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:44] <jp10558> You would set a variable for that
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:59] <jp10558> or specifically, I don't think you need to there
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:10] <jp10558> it get's pulled from the info when you add a device
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:21] <jberry> yeah, that's what I'd assume
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:26] <jberry> Okay, I think I created a performance template in the right place, and told it to bind.
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:53] <jberry> The howto says that any new devices added will get this template. But I've already got a device in that class. But it should inherit the template anyway?
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:30] <jp10558> Right
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:40] <jp10558> it doesn't matter if you already had a device there, it will get the template
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:50] <jp10558> but you do have to make sure you've bound it correctly
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:10] <jp10558> Does anything show up in the perf tab of the device?
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:19] <jberry> welll...
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:20] <jberry> no
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:05] <jberry> I do see something in history that makes me think it did a fetch on the device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:14] <jberry> maybe
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:41] <jberry> But I don't see a graph or anything else in Perf
[01-Apr-2008 19:37:45] <jp10558> Hmm
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:18] <jp10558> When you bound the template to the class, did you use the little pop-up dialog to Bind Templates, and use Ctrl-Click to highlight both Device and the HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:48] <jberry> Oh, maybe not. Let me try that again.
[01-Apr-2008 19:39:33] <jberry> So what do I bind together?
[01-Apr-2008 19:40:18] <jberry> It says "Bind Performance Templates" and has a list of verious things, including my WebIndexCheck template. But not the particular device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:44] <jberry> Ah, it's working now.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:55] <jberry> Maybe it just needed to roll over the 5 minute threshold
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[01-Apr-2008 19:51:57] <jp10558> That could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:04] <jberry> damn, now my other graphs stopped working.
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:13] <jberry> Maybe I unbound those?
[01-Apr-2008 19:56:56] <jp10558> Could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:08] <jp10558> Remember, you have to have everything you want highlighted in blue
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:10] <jp10558> in that dialog
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:24] <jp10558> So don't unselect Device for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:40] <jberry> So which template supplies things like load average?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:11] <jberry> Device, rigth?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:17] <jp10558> YEa
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:20] <jp10558> I believe so
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[01-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <locohost> hmm, isnt there some way to run the collector manually for debugging or something, im getting a bunch of blank spots in all my reports, and pretty regular intervals
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[01-Apr-2008 21:01:46] <locohost> anyone?
[01-Apr-2008 21:08:35] <locohost> well, something to work on tomorrow, i guess, late
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:17] <Funky_> jberry, my zenjmx threshold problem was fixed
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:18] <Funky_> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/8776
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Changeset 8776 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:04] <jberry> Funky_: cool
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:14] <jberry> Funky_: thanks for the help earlier
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:43] <jberry> I decided things on my system were too messed up, so reset the database and am now trying to start from ground zero.
[01-Apr-2008 22:08:08] <jberry> Unfortunately I can't remember the workarounds for some of the things I did last time I set this stuff up.
[01-Apr-2008 22:15:48] <jberry> oh yeah, figured it out.
[01-Apr-2008 22:31:12] <Funky_>
[01-Apr-2008 23:15:37] <jberry> Anybody know how I get a graph of filesystem usage?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:00] <Funky_> Create a graph based on the data point
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:01] <Funky_> ?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:14] <jberry> I'm trying to figure out where I do that
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:47] <Funky_> in the template that has that SNMP datapoint
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:48] <jberry> The filesystem template has a graph in it, but I don't see the graph showing up, and if I bind the file system template, all hell breaks lose.
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:56] <Funky_> hm
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:11] <Funky_> No graph in the perf tab?
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:18] <jberry> nope
[01-Apr-2008 23:37:08] <jberry> Ah, graphs for filesystem usage are inside the OS tab, by clicking on the specific file system.
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[02-Apr-2008 14:32:13] <jp10558> I'm still trying to track down my issue with the MySQL Zenpack, and was wondering if anyone could provide any troubleshooting suggestions on that
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> Afternoon all: Anyone have any insight into this error:
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host ws1-249 and ws1-249.peopleplaces.org are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[02-Apr-2008 17:19:05] <jberry> Funky_: any hints on jmx setup? My zenjmx.log just tells me "timeout occurred during request". I wonder if I've got some fields wrong.
[02-Apr-2008 17:30:30] <likuidkewl> aedaemoen - That didn't work so well.
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:38] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: how so?
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:52] <aedaemoen> works fine for me
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:05] <likuidkewl> Are you running Zenoss on the localhost
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:12] <aedaemoen> yes.
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:18] <likuidkewl> and trying to monitor the local host
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:35] <aedaemoen> ... im monitoring like 20 - 30 devices total...
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:39] <aedaemoen> including the local machine, yes
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:44] <aedaemoen> why?
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:49] <likuidkewl> Argh! Ok I will look again.
[02-Apr-2008 17:39:51] <likuidkewl> The only way I can get mine to work even remotely is by running everything off of 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file. localhost ws1-249 and ws1-249.mydoman.com
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <likuidkewl> If I remove any one of those the web interface is down for the count.
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:55] <likuidkewl> even after a full on 5 minute reboot
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:30] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: you are setting them to the local LAN ip, right?
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:32] <aedaemoen> not the wan ip?
[02-Apr-2008 17:48:56] <likuidkewl> On the Zenoss box we are using 127.0.0.1 <tab> localhost <tab> ws1-249 <tab>ws1-249.ourdom.com as /etc/hosts
[02-Apr-2008 17:50:15] <likuidkewl> This "works" to allow us to get tot he box from the internal network and locally a the box.
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:06] <idea4gud> i am tryin to do snmpwalk on machine that is on the subnet as mine
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <idea4gud> but i cant get resp
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:19] <idea4gud> i am able to do localhost
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:31] <idea4gud> i tracert
[02-Apr-2008 18:11:11] <idea4gud> its just talkin to other machine
[02-Apr-2008 18:26:26] <aedaemoen> idea4gud: do you have the snmp port open?
[02-Apr-2008 18:27:44] <idea4gud> 161 rite
[02-Apr-2008 18:29:55] <aedaemoen> believe so.
[02-Apr-2008 18:30:24] <aedaemoen> good to see you have te subnetting the same now at least
[02-Apr-2008 18:31:56] <idea4gud> yeah i hav just added them and tried
[02-Apr-2008 18:32:05] <idea4gud> failed
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:26] <Funky_> jberry, you probably have the ports set wrong
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:37] <Funky_> did you enable JMX support on your JVM?
[02-Apr-2008 18:43:34] <jberry> Funky_: yes, and I can use jconsole remotely to get to it with the same authentication information I'm passing
[02-Apr-2008 18:47:00] <jberry> through zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:28] <magnachef> does anyone know why a bonded interface of two 1 G interfaces (eth0 and eth1) would show up as 10 Mb in SNMP/Zenoss?
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:47] <magnachef> this is for a CentOS 4.5 server
[02-Apr-2008 18:54:51] <Funky_> jberry, I cannot get authentication to work with zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:02] <Funky_> I had no choice btu to disable authentication on my JVM
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:14] <jberry> hmm. ouch
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:43] <jberry> Funky_: I'll have to spend a bit of time to troubleshoot that for them I guess.
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:12] <Funky_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:22] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:24] <Funky_> here is my post on that if you are interested
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:53] <jberry> Hmm. That's not quite the same error I'm getting, but maybe it is the same.
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:58] <jberry> same issue.
[02-Apr-2008 19:00:10] <Funky_> I wish you good luck
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:03] <jberry> If nothing else maybe I'll add some more logging to the java app so I can see what it thinks it's trying to do.
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:49] <Funky_> I found another bug as well
[02-Apr-2008 19:02:47] <jberry> Ooch. They ship that jmx connector with a whole tomcat. I wonder if they're running it under tomcat.
[02-Apr-2008 19:03:02] <Funky_> once you patch zenoss to actually get jmx thresholds to be reported, the escalate count number has no bearing at all
[02-Apr-2008 19:05:49] <idea4gud> I am tryin to add a device windows box I can snmp thru console but when i do it usin zen.DeviceLoader it gives me snmp found for the that IP
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[02-Apr-2008 20:43:55] <KA> Hi all, I noticed that all ipService I set up manually yesterday was somehow removed, any suggestion?
[02-Apr-2008 20:45:51] <KA> it happens the same when I remodel the node manually, so I guess is something related to zenmodel running
[02-Apr-2008 21:15:17] <idea4gud> locohost are you here
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:29] <idea4gud> i added my network using cidr format
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:59] <idea4gud> now i want my discovered device to show in the netwok but it doesnt show up
[02-Apr-2008 21:17:16] <idea4gud> also i do discover devices but no devices are listed
[02-Apr-2008 21:47:14] <mray> Greetings all, my name is Matt Ray and I'm the new Zenoss Community Manager. I'll be hanging out here and forums and everywhere else to help the community.
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:35] <jberry> greatings mray
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:47] <jberry> ...if I could spell
[02-Apr-2008 21:49:59] <mray> jberry: Nice to meet you.
[02-Apr-2008 21:50:35] <jberry> thanks. I'm pretty new to zenoss, and struggle mightily at times.
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:12] <jberry> so it's nice to see an effort to reach out to the community, rather than to just try to collect fees from them, which is what I've surmised so far...
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:41] <mray> Hopefully as I ramp up I'll be able to help out more. I'm actually new to Zenoss myself, today's my second day on the job. My last gig was at BMC, which really likes to collect fees
[02-Apr-2008 21:52:09] <jberry> heh
[02-Apr-2008 21:53:02] <jberry> right now I'm hacking on the source for the jmx collector, which I can't seem to get to work.
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:24] <mray> have you posted on the forum/mailing list?
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:52] <jberry> I haven't had real good response on the forum, so I'm staying away for now.
[02-Apr-2008 21:57:30] <mray> I would recommend posting a fairly detailed post, I know the developers are monitoring it, and if you have source up that'll help too. I know there are several java developers joining soon, so maybe I can point them at it
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:02] <Funky_> I'm glad to see Zenoss is picking up the pace
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:43] <mray> not that IRC isn't a good source of info, but at least the forums are more visible (and hopefully more responsive)
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:08] <mray> the forums and the mailing lists are supposed to be glued together with MailMan and Plone(?), so either one should be fine for following/subscribing
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:33] <mray> not Plone, phpBB
[02-Apr-2008 22:08:58] <lavermil> hello
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:04] <lavermil> I have a question with the isntall
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:11] <lavermil> on centos 5 via rpm
[02-Apr-2008 22:10:47] <lavermil> anyone alive?
[02-Apr-2008 22:11:48] <mray> I'm here, don't have a Centos install yet. But this was on the forum: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5358&highlight=centos
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Install-problems on CentOS 5.1 (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:13] <mray> does that look similar?
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:29] <lavermil> umm
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:33] <lavermil> let me check it out
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:38] <lavermil> sorry was reading ht forum stuff
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:55] <lavermil> basically my problem is it looks to have installed correctly, but I don't know how to access the install
[02-Apr-2008 22:20:32] <lavermil> yeah, read that one already.
[02-Apr-2008 22:21:23] <lavermil> does zenoss install and create a mysql database? if so what DB?
[02-Apr-2008 22:22:07] <lavermil> aah found hte sql files.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:08] <Funky_> it does
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <lavermil> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <Funky_> it creates a db called events
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> events database created and loaded
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> WARNING:OFS.Application:Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> 2008-04-02 14:16:46 WARNING OFS.Application Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:17] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:19] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:21] <lavermil> WARNING:zen.Events:Failed to refresh conversions, db connection failed.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:48] <lavermil> aah crap
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:52] <lavermil> I think i know hwat happened
[02-Apr-2008 22:24:02] <lavermil> bin/zenoss_init_post and bin/zenoss_init_pre both need to be updated with the root password
[02-Apr-2008 22:25:43] <mray> anyone have a recommendation for an OSX IRC client? Colloquy is killing my slow laptop
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:20] <lavermil> not sure is bitchx or scrollz is ported
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:24] <lavermil> those are good freebsd ones
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:07] <mray> I used xchat before, but my machine is on its knees
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:35] <lavermil> yikes. sounds like more ram is needed
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> --15:26:12-- http://172.20.17.71/
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> Connecting to 172.20.17.71:80... failed: Connection refused.
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:36] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:43] <lavermil> no firewall running or anything
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:46] <lavermil> do I need ot have zope installed?
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:27] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:31] <lavermil> the mysql user is correct
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:17] <lavermil> mysql -u zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> mysql> show databases;
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | Database |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | information_schema |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:24] <lavermil> | events |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:26] <lavermil> | test |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:28] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:30] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:36] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss status
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:48] <Funky_> and check to see if all the daemons are running
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:54] <lavermil> everythin returns except one.
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:59] <lavermil> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:14] <lavermil> I DO NOT have zope installed
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:20] <lavermil> do I need to install zope manually?
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:33] <lavermil> or does it have a stipped down version a part of the package?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:07] <Funky_> I don't think so
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:17] <lavermil> are you on a redhat version?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:21] <Funky_> but i've had random problems like that before
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:24] <Funky_> rhel4
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:31] <lavermil> do you use yum?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:33] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss restart
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:39] <lavermil> or up2date?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <Funky_> I used the rpm and installed from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <lavermil> or yast
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:47] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:50] <lavermil> maybe I should just do that.
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:54] <lavermil> I installed from the RPM
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lavermil> source = check for everything
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lavermil> rpm = check for only stuff told to check for
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:20] <Funky_> it's a simple install from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:51] <lavermil> I keep getting zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:37:19] <lavermil> I just isntalled and start zope, lets see what happens now.
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:08] <lavermil> hmm what source did you build from
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:12] <lavermil> htere is only fedora
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:17] <Funky_> latest svn
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:15] <lavermil>
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:20] <lavermil> what is the svn directory?
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:24] <lavermil> err url
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:49] <Funky_> svn co http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/trunk/inst zenossinst
[02-Apr-2008 22:42:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Revision 8802: /trunk/inst (at dev.zenoss.org)
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:44] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:47] <lavermil> I will try that
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:12] <Funky_> that version is better than 2.1.3 anyway
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <lavermil> is that more current?
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:29] <lavermil> is it devel?
[02-Apr-2008 22:47:31] <lavermil> where is the default install for it?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:11] <lavermil> Funky_ do you need to have httpd running or does zenoss use its own server?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:59] <lavermil> starting up the vmware appliance
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:32] <lavermil> i will play with the appliance for now.
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:34] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:08] <jberry> Funky_: got my jmx to go through. I had a firewall rule blocking access from the machine zenoss was running on, even though I could get to it from my development machine ;(
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:49] <jberry> Funky_: I too ran into the authentication issue. The authentication flag is never passed into the jmx code, and so it never uses the credentials.
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:28] <Funky_> jberry, i knew it
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:40] <Funky_> you're the only other person i know who's tried it
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:12] <jberry> mray: one upshot of the jmx problems I've been having is here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18044#18044. (I also had a separate problem which was of my own making).
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:05] <jberry> Funky_: I rebuilt the java jar that the jmx collector uses, to patch around the problem.
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:44] <jberry> oh, mray is gone. so much for community involvement
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:07] <Funky_> you patched the code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:11] <Funky_> heh
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:15] <Funky_> oh i see your post
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:17] <Funky_> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:00] <jberry> Funky_: actually I think the patch mentioned by the op in the forum is not applied in the released jmx code.
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:33] <Funky_> It's in the release notes...
[02-Apr-2008 23:54:54] <Funky_> Is it not in the actual code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:43] <jberry> It's not in the version of the jmx pack that I downloaded from here http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/.
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:57] <Funky_> actually... I think I did check the code and the changes are there
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:01] <Funky_> yes I remember I dide
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:02] <Funky_> did
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:08] <jberry> It is represented in the source tree, however.
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:20] <jberry> The jmx pack on the server still says version 1.0. Don't know how old that is?
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:28] <Funky_> not sure
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:43] <jberry> But it doesn't incorporate that change.
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:08] <jberry> How long ago was 2.1.3 released?
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:52] <Funky_> couple weeks ago max
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:06] <jberry> Hmm. I don't think they updated that zenpack.
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:23] <Funky_> I can't check my installation now...
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:55] <jberry> Well, based on my comparison the fix isn't in.
[03-Apr-2008 00:00:15] <Funky_> strange...
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[03-Apr-2008 00:00:44] <Funky_> Hi zenoss-logger, thanks for logging me
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:13] <Funky_> I'll bbl
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:28] <jberry> bye
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[03-Apr-2008 15:39:50] <jp10558> Does anyone here know how to get a graph of how many pages were printed from a printer over the last 5 minutes from an OID that tells you how many pages have been printed so far on the printer/cartridge?
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:31] <jp10558> That is, if the first check of the OID is 5, and the second check is 6, I want a sort of fill graph or something @ 1
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:43] <jp10558> the next check is 10, that should be at 4
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:52] <jp10558> next is 10 again, so graph ought to be at 0
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:18] <garnica> hi people, I have successfully run zenoss on vmware, I've tried to install it on my Suse10.3 as a monitoring server on my lap top i goes well but I get this message : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:38] <garnica> any idea of what can I do ??
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:22] <MoreDakka> Does anyone know if Zenoss requires a user to be pert of the Local Admin group on a Windows server to access WMI properly?
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:36] <MoreDakka> I don't really like giving Zenoss the ability to write to the servers...
[03-Apr-2008 16:31:42] <MoreDakka> Has anyone been able to get WMI to actually monitor services successfully? Like alert or even show a Red dot when the service is shutdown or disabled?
[03-Apr-2008 16:42:24] <jp10558> Yes, but the zenoss user MUST be an administrator
[03-Apr-2008 16:45:35] <MoreDakka> How would I do that with windows permissions? I've set the zenoss user in the local admin account but I'm pretty sure the only way I can think of is in the WMI Security settings to not allow the admin group write access...but that's the only way I know.
[03-Apr-2008 16:50:39] <jberry> Has anybody here used the apache monitor zenpack?
[03-Apr-2008 16:52:04] <jberry> There doesn't seem to be much documentation for it. I'm wondering if it allows me to specify authentication information so it can access a non-public status page?
[03-Apr-2008 17:12:02] <MoreDakka> Hm, zenoss is awesome. ZenWinMonitor noticed the service (example Windows Audio, had that set to True for "monitoring"), shut the service down...no alert, no red dot...I don't think Zenoss knows how to monitor services through WMI all that well.
[03-Apr-2008 17:38:13] <Funky-> jberry, still trying eh?
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:24] <jberry> Funky_: yeah.
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:39] <jberry> I've got things working pretty well.
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[03-Apr-2008 19:11:06] <magnachef> I've added monitoring of port 22 under IPService of a device, but I want to have it watching this port across an entire class. I can't find how to apply it to a whole class
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[03-Apr-2008 21:53:33] <magnachef> I added an IPService for port monitoring (ssh/22) on a device that for some reason wasn't showing as an instance for that device under "Classes"->"Services"->"IPService"->"Registered"->"ssh". Why did it not show up, and is there a way I can enable it across the entire class?
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[04-Apr-2008 11:47:36] <crazyminsc> good afternoon
[04-Apr-2008 12:56:06] <twm1010> morning !
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:31] <MoreDakka_> Morning. Do you use WMI for monitoring services and processes?
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:50] <MoreDakka_> and by you I mean anyone that is reading this ;-)
[04-Apr-2008 14:06:55] <jp10558> I do to some extent for services, I believe processes are monitored via SNMP in Zenoss
[04-Apr-2008 14:11:47] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to get a service monitored for a client and WMI is the only way that I can find to monitor a service...zenoss and wmi don't like eachother or something on my server.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:34] <jp10558> If your using Server 2008, then I think you're screwed, they are supposedly bug fixing for the new MS OSs
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:44] <MoreDakka_> Nope, 2003.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:45] <jp10558> if it's Server 2003/XP you should be OK
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:59] <jp10558> Make sure the user account is specified correctly and has admin access to the box
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:06] <jp10558> that is by far the most common error
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:08] <twm1010> oh he's done that
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:09] <twm1010>
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:18] <jp10558> hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:22] <MoreDakka_> "should". What happens is Zenoss will detect all the services and such. However when I bring down one of the monitored services zenoss does nothing.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:23] <jp10558> then I guess I can't help
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:32] <jp10558> Oh, yea
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:41] <jp10558> I've seen that recently - it's kind of weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:43] <twm1010> how did you add it
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:48] <twm1010> did you add it as a process or winservice
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:51] <MoreDakka_> no little red dot either.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:58] <MoreDakka_> Zenoss auto-detected.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:59] <jp10558> For a while I thought it was related to being '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:21] <MoreDakka_> I have the box in as /Device/Server/Windows as well.
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:26] <jp10558> but now it is working for me on '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass' and not on '/Device/Server/Windows'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:44] <jp10558> It started working after a zenoss restart - have you tried that (oddly enough)?
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:55] <MoreDakka_> So you are alerted when a Win Service drops?
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:04] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I've tried a zenoss reset :-|
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:32] <twm1010> I am, yes
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:34] <MoreDakka_> Lucky I'm listening to calming music or the zenoss box would be in pieces.
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[04-Apr-2008 14:26:00] <twm1010> the only issues i have with WMI are with Win2K NAS devices
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:16] <MoreDakka> :-/ I wish that was my only problem with WMI :-/
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:41] <twm1010> I'm curious, have you tried downloading the VMWare appliance, and starting that up and see if it has any issues doin the WMI?
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:44] <twm1010> wouldn't take you very long
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:53] <twm1010> that would rule out a problem with your zenbox or with your network/servers
[04-Apr-2008 14:30:23] <MoreDakka> Hmmm, nope haven't tried that yet. Might be worth a shot.
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:38] <jp10558> Hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:50] <twm1010> I think so...
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:00] <jp10558> I get alerted to one systems alerts, and not to others... it's kind of weird, but may well have to do with other alerting rules
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:04] <twm1010> I chose the VMWare appliance specifically so that the environment was what it was developed on.
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:20] <twm1010> jp: what alerting criteria did you pick?
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:42] <twm1010> i often wonder if multiple alerting rules will generate multiple e-mails for the same event
[04-Apr-2008 14:36:53] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm not currently working on WMI per se, so I don't know off the top of my head
[04-Apr-2008 14:37:20] <jp10558> I'm trying to find out how to graph a command datasource
[04-Apr-2008 14:43:42] <jp10558> Ok, I'm looking at a test system with WMI
[04-Apr-2008 14:44:06] <jp10558> And yea, it's not currently noticing on this one, but did for one in my subclass ... weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:35] <jp10558> If I have a command that outputs a number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:42] <jp10558> and I want to graph that number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:52] <jp10558> anyone know how to do that?
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:28] <jp10558> Yup, so now it's noticing in the '/nativePoll' subclass
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:29] <jp10558> weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:38] <jp10558> no issue for me though as I want to stick windows there anywayt
[04-Apr-2008 14:58:28] <jp10558> Anyone here do any command based graphing?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:27] <twm1010> what kind of data source
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:33] <twm1010> does it return back an integer?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:45] <twm1010> im doing it for my Netware monitoring
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:11] <jp10558> Yea, all it returns is an integer nuber
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:13] <jp10558> number
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:17] <jp10558> like 0 or 2
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:32] <jp10558> it often might be 0, but it could be a higher number like 100 sometimes
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:00] <jp10558> Actually
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:09] <twm1010> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:10] <jp10558> the command prints to the stdout the number
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:13] <jp10558> is that wrong?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:21] <twm1010> what does it actually return?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:26] <twm1010> copy and paste theline here
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:35] <jp10558> oh, what would come out
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> [zenoss@lnx90 printtest]$ bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:00] <jp10558> so if I run it as above
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:04] <jp10558> the second line, the 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:07] <jp10558> is all that's there
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:35] <twm1010> all my commands generate a line in a syntax so you get the datasource name and then the integer
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:00] <jp10558> So I want to have it returen
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:01] <jp10558> write
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:04] <jp10558> umm, like
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:09] <jp10558> pages 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:16] <jp10558> or what is the syntax?
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:04] <twm1010> yes
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:16] <twm1010> let me see what i get back from one of my nagios checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:54] <jp10558> Thanks for any info
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:00] <twm1010> ok, so my cpu load check for netware
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:02] <twm1010> runs this command
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:03] <twm1010> ./Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H 172.16.225.20 -v LOAD5
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:21] <twm1010> and i return : Load OK - Up 31 days 23 hours 30 minutes, 5-min load average = 0%|load5=0;0;0;0;100
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> my datasource checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:36] <twm1010> well, its just called load5
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:47] <twm1010> and it's getting the first value past the = sign
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:59] <jp10558> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:43] <jp10558> let's see what happens if I change it to
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> PagesPrinted1 = 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:39] <webtech> does anyone have Zenoss in debian package format?
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <KillMeNow> not as far as I know
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <jp10558> How do you have the datasource checking load5?
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:01] <webtech> for etch or ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:07] <jp10558> is that specified somewhere or is that just the name of the datasource
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:44] <KillMeNow> I've seen some documentation out there on how to get it to work in Ubuntu / Debian, but i don't think it's up on a repository
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:59] <webtech> i think i may have to make one
[04-Apr-2008 15:23:43] <KillMeNow> I know i've seen alot of people out there looking for it on Ubuntu for APT
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:03] <webtech> i have been reading alot of sites
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:06] <webtech> to make it work
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:56] <webtech> but i am getting lazy and installing a package is alot easier
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:03] <KillMeNow> well sure it is!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:15] <KillMeNow> i love apt!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:31] <KillMeNow> it's full of WINzor!
[04-Apr-2008 15:27:12] <webtech> i will have the check the debian rules before i start doing anything
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:03] <webtech> okie .. off to package making school
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:07] <webtech> l8r
[04-Apr-2008 15:38:58] <mray_> KillMeNow: I'm the Zenoss Community Manager and Ubuntu and Debian adoption are very high on my priority list. We have a few blockers that we're working on, I'll keep an eye out for webtech and talk to him about it some
[04-Apr-2008 15:39:57] <mray_> basically we're using an older version of Zope and Python, so they're not crazy about getting us in there yet
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:07] <mray_> and Debian has some reservations about our use of Flash
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:34] <mray_> but we're working on upgrading and making a non-Flash alternative, it just might take awhile
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:47] <mray_> I believe the Etch instructions are about to get revved
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[04-Apr-2008 15:49:23] <jp10558> yea twm1010 - still no joy
[04-Apr-2008 15:49:31] <jp10558> no idea what's wrong
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:03] <zenoss> hi people !! I have installed zenoss in my Suse10.3 laptop, then I want to start it by using the 'zenoss start' script... Daemons zeoctl and zopectl start ok, but zenhub gives me some messages:
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:40] <zenoss> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/__init__.py", line 27, in ?
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss>
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss> ImportError: libmysqlclient_r.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, for example
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:54] <webtech_m33> remember me, i was asking about Zenoss and Debian packages
[04-Apr-2008 16:59:18] <webtech_m33> i emailed Zenoss and they said that they will be in the atp repo in the next few weeks..
[04-Apr-2008 17:00:14] <zenoss> ok ... I will change my nick.... hold on.
[04-Apr-2008 17:01:26] <mray> greetings webtech, I emailed you from my @zenoss email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:18] <webtech_m33> mray .. ty for the email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:33] <webtech_m33> mray can i download those today off of a site some where?
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:37] <garnica> ok
[04-Apr-2008 17:05:54] <mray> we're working on having fresh .debs put out every release, but we haven't gotten them made yet. Right now we only have source instructions for Debian/Ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:04] <mray> today's my 3rd day on the job
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:39] <webtech_m33> nice
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:05] <webtech_m33> i was going to install from source .. but deb files are easier to install
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:35] <mray> agreed
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:42] <garnica> looks like python 2.5.1 in Suse10 won't work with zenoss.... I can not start the zenhub daemon ..... any idea ?
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:14] <mray> I believe it's because we're using an old version of Zope that doesn't work with 2.5
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:27] <mray> another part of getting our act together
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:31] <mray> garnica: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-from-source/
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:47] <garnica> ok... checking out mray !
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install from Source - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:03] <mray> I'm going to be pushing the devteam to get onto a newer version of Zope, which will get us onto a newer version of Python, which will make installation a lot easier, and help get us into more distributions
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:15] <mray> and make more people happy
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:44] <garnica> ok.... this is what happens ..... if you have suse 10.3 make sure you have python 2.3.5 'cause you may have python 2.5 or any other ..... so make a downgrade !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:53] <garnica> thanks people !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:16:02] <garnica> see ya'
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:00] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with my command data source
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:07] <jp10558> Still not getting any graph from it
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:23] <jp10558> Is there a specific input/output needed?
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:43] <jp10558> do I need to do something like return in the bash script vs outputting to stdout?
[04-Apr-2008 18:42:15] <posix^> using wmic, I'm getting 3 values for the 'Name' field of 'Win32_OperatingSystem', is this normal?
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:16] <webtech_m33> hey guys, when i go to install zenoss from tarball
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:19] <webtech_m33> i get a
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:52] <webtech_m33> Permission denied
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:12] <webtech_m33> usr/bin/python2.4 genpatchdeps.py >.patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:23] <webtech_m33> bin/sh: cannot create .patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:30] <webtech_m33> any ideas?
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:11] <Funky_> webtech_m33, has to be directory permissions
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:51] <posix^> Funky_: know anything about wmic?
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:19] <Funky_> not really sorry
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:27] <posix^> doh..
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:52] <Funky_> I've given up on zenoss I don't even know why I am still here, heh
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:20] <posix^> hahah, whoa.
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:45] <posix^> I'm just using their wmic tool..
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:54] <posix^> are you using another product?
[04-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <Funky_> still evaluating
[04-Apr-2008 20:22:08] <Funky_> but zenoss extremely broken implementation of JMX was the deal breaker
[04-Apr-2008 20:31:39] <posix^> hm
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[05-Apr-2008 04:00:55] <idea4gud> any1 out there
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[06-Apr-2008 06:55:31] <nima0102> hi everybody
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:01] <nima0102> I have not installed ZenOss still, one question?
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:21] <nima0102> Is ZenOss based on Python?
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:19] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
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[07-Apr-2008 10:13:12] <danw> hello
[07-Apr-2008 10:14:39] <danw> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 12:40:21] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 13:03:16] <Blinny> Is there anything special I need to do to model a WinNT4.0 server? I installed Windows SNMP service, and modeled the machine under Servers/Windows but am coming up blank. I do have a WMI Connect Error on {hostname} in my event log.
[07-Apr-2008 13:14:11] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: look in the zproperties for the /Server/Windows in the Devices and set the password and username for the servers you are going to model. If you need to use a domain user make sure that you do (DOMAIN)/(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:15:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: correction (DOMAIN)\(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:43] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Thank you. I was searching on 'wmiusername' or 'wmipassword' - I'm guessing this is relevant to an older version of Zenoss.
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:50] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Do I then remodel the device?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:06] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: yes... have you installed snmp-informant?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:37] <Blinny> I'm not sure what that is, so I'm guessing the answer is 'No'.
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: it is needed to do any SNMP monitoring... http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:39] <Bulwinkle> install that, it doesn't really change anything but adds mibs so that ZenOSS can monitor your system via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:25:19] <Blinny> I know the SNMP functionality of Windows NT is pretty weak. I was hoping to just get traps forwarded on to my monitoring Zenoss box.
[07-Apr-2008 13:26:57] <Blinny> Yuck. snmp-informant does not list NT4 as a product with which it is compatible.
[07-Apr-2008 13:28:08] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: if you want to do that you can always set the box to not be monitored via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:08] <Blinny> True. Right on.
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:12] <Blinny> Thanks Bulwinkle
[07-Apr-2008 13:35:23] <Bulwinkle> np
[07-Apr-2008 14:49:51] <jp10558> Ok, I think this may be a question regarding RRD more than Zenoss, but here goes. I was under the impression that Guage just graphed the number that came into RRD - but I do recall there is some averaging going on. Is there a way to turn that off?
[07-Apr-2008 14:50:21] <jp10558> I'm trying to graph the number of pages printed in since the last cycle
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:13] <jp10558> but in my recent tests I printed 7 pages, and got 6.2 pages graphed. I don't think this will work that well for us as the printer can't print part of a page really, it just indicates total numbers...
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:26] <jp10558> Any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:40] <mrayzenoss> I might suggest posting to the forums/mailing list.
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:48] <mrayzenoss> with more details of your version/setup
[07-Apr-2008 15:17:39] <jp10558> Hmmm, another question - anyone know why my command datasource would work if I run zencommand in debug mode, but not if running normally?
[07-Apr-2008 15:35:36] <locohost> you can compile net-snmp on windows,
[07-Apr-2008 17:05:21] <lazarus477> Hello. I have just discovered Zenoss while reading about Nagios. I am wondering if Zenoss uses plugins to enable monitoring of hosts, plugins at the hosts ends?
[07-Apr-2008 17:10:43] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss uses ZenPacks, which are bundles of specialized monitoring configurations for applications/OSes/devices
[07-Apr-2008 17:25:54] <lazarus477> I see. Thank you.
[07-Apr-2008 17:26:09] <lazarus477> Anyone here used Zenoss on NetBSD?
[07-Apr-2008 17:49:39] <lazarus477> Can Zenoss monitor the status of SAMBA and OpenVPN? If not I asume there is a facility to make it simple enough to implement for admins?
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:30] <lazarus477> I see for adding funktionality I use ZenPacks, just got that in the online docs.
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:54] <lazarus477> But I would like to know. Where can I find out about which services it is able to monitor using default packs?
[07-Apr-2008 17:51:03] <lazarus477> Is there a listing somewhere?
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:05] <lazarus477> Ok just found documentation on that as well, eesh I feel like such an noob bothering ya all with such simple questions.
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:34] <lazarus477> So do many of you bother with writing custom zenpacks or do you just make due with the available ones?
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:07] <lazarus477> O I see Zenoss supports Nagios plugins, how wonderful! That is good.
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:24] <lazarus477> Tell me. Is the google maps feature available in the community edition?
[07-Apr-2008 18:06:39] <jp10558> I believe so lazarus477
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:43] <idea4gud> hi guyz i have query :
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:51] <idea4gud> I am trying to add a OS process
[07-Apr-2008 18:09:09] <idea4gud> i hav zenoss 2.1.3 runnin on centos 5
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:01] <idea4gud> i try add OS process and it says Zpublisher.publish module has error
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:05] <lazarus477> Yep just saw the google maps feature is in the core edition for community use.
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:45] <idea4gud> so is this bcz of i dont hav plug in installed or there is some other problem
[07-Apr-2008 18:13:57] <idea4gud> pastebin.ca/975633
[07-Apr-2008 18:35:38] <jp10558> Anyone know where Zenoss stores .rrd files for a created command data source?
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:07] <idea4gud> what would you suggest the best way to monitor Win2k3 server
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:15] <idea4gud> using the WMI plugin
[07-Apr-2008 18:47:51] <jp10558> Hmm - yea I think the WMI Zenpack is the best IMO
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:08] <jp10558> though, I would also look at the newer advanced WMI Zenpack listed in the newsletter
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:16] <jp10558> http://blog.dastrup.com/?p=13
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Advanced WMI Performance Monitor ZenPack for Zenoss Core | Dastrup Tech Logs (at blog.dastrup.com)
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[07-Apr-2008 19:08:32] <idea4gud> thnx JP
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[07-Apr-2008 19:31:00] <Rayen> Hello, I was just wondering to what kind of problems does ZenOSS's network monitor offer a solution?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:27] <jp10558> ?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:41] <jp10558> I'm not sure what you mean Rayen
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:52] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:12] <Rayen> Well ZenOSS offers a product (So it's a solution to a certain problem)
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <Rayen> But what exactly is the problem?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <jp10558> danw__: I think you should contact Zenoss sales for that question
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:54] <jp10558> Rayen: Oh. The problem is servers/services/computers going down, and you not knowing so you can fix them
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:18] <jp10558> I.E., it helps to know if your e-mail server has died before all the users start calling you
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:39] <jp10558> or if your outside web page has gone down, it helps to know before you lose lots and lots of traffice
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:01] <Rayen> So it's actually a program which allows system administrators to monitor availability, inventory/configuration, performance and alerts?
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:06] <Rayen> (webbased)
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:02] <jp10558> Yes
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:12] <jp10558> What did it come across as to you from their site?
[07-Apr-2008 19:41:21] <Rayen> I didn't really understand why this product was on the market... but now it makes sense
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:18] <idea4gud> jp: whats diff b/w Zenplugin and Zenwinpack
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:33] <idea4gud> info i got is former is used to monitor thru SSH
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:51] <idea4gud> and l8r is used to monitor using SNMP agent
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:56] <idea4gud> did i get correctly
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[07-Apr-2008 19:58:21] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: A ZenPack contains a zenplugin which provides functionality, I don't know about the ZenWinPack
[07-Apr-2008 20:03:57] <jp10558> I'm not really sure what the ZenWinPack is?
[07-Apr-2008 20:04:39] <jp10558> Did you mean the WindowsWMIDeviceTemplate or Advanced WMI Performance Monitor?
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[07-Apr-2008 20:22:25] <locohost> so, when you model a device, it wont pickup hostname changes?
[07-Apr-2008 20:23:34] <magnachef> yeah, it should
[07-Apr-2008 20:27:48] <locohost> heh,
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:33] <idea4gud> I am tryin run wbemtest when i click connect dialog offers me connect options
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:49] <idea4gud> i enter \root\cimv2 as given in Document
[07-Apr-2008 20:32:07] <idea4gud> and enter admin user id and pwd
[07-Apr-2008 20:34:44] <idea4gud> it returns with error : user credentials cannot be used for local connections
[07-Apr-2008 20:36:40] <idea4gud> i solved it
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <idea4gud> http://blog.zenoss.com/tag/open+source+monitoring this entry says i dont need Zenwin to monitor WMI service
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:39] <idea4gud> i have 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <idea4gud> running
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Apr-2008 20:52:58] <idea4gud> so does it mean i dont hav to download and install ZENWIN separately on machine Centos Server
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:47] <locohost> dont listen to magnachef, he's a bad seed
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:57] <magnachef>
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[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> Oh trust me. He's a bad seed. He's a horrible seed. He's one of the worst
[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> seeds I've ever seen.
[07-Apr-2008 21:47:55] <idea4gud> i have zenwin model present in zenoss 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 21:53:04] <idea4gud> but when i try to do zenwin i cant do\
[07-Apr-2008 22:13:50] <danw__> hey guys i'm just install zenoss now and i'm getting "unable to find the "patch" program"
[07-Apr-2008 22:14:09] <danw__> anyone got any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:28] <lochii> hi, for when people are around
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:42] <lochii> am getting this error trying to add a device on latest stable version of core, for freebsd 6.2:
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:45] <lochii> 2008-04-07T23:32:46 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://zentest.test.com:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:48] <lochii> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:51] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:53] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:56] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:59] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 128, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:02] <lochii> except e:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:04] <lochii> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:06] <lochii> the bad exception handling is hiding the real problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:24] <lochii> which is actually this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:29] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 120, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:31] <lochii> statusMonitors, performanceMonitor, discoverProto)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:34] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 103, in manage_createDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:37] <lochii> zSnmpCommunity, zSnmpPort, zSnmpVer)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:40] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 180, in findCommunity
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:43] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:45] <lochii> AttributeError: SnmpSession instance has no attribute 'setVersion'
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:48] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:00] <mrayzenoss> danw__: patch is part of most developer environments I assume
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:09] <lochii> looking at pynetsnmp's "SnmpSession.py" , the method is clearly there:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> def setVersion(self, version):
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> if version.find('2') >= 0:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_2c
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> else:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_1
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:19] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:28] <lochii> have tried to rebuilt pynetsnmp but no joy
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:48] <lochii> am not a python person, so don't know what the .pyc does, it it python compiled bytecode?
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:12] <mrayzenoss> lochii: yes
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:27] <lochii> and ideas why it doesn't find this methof
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:28] <lochii> method
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:35] <lochii> I dont have pynetsnmp installed anywhere else on the system
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:55] <lochii> and why it calls it an "attribute"
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:14] <lochii> have seen pynetsnmp 0.28 is release (this is 0.27 bundled with zenoss)
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:17] <lochii> released
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:09] <mrayzenoss> sorry, I'm just getting up to speed
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:18] <mrayzenoss> forums?
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:22] <lochii> I found one post
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:27] <lochii> no repl
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:30] <lochii> no useful replies
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:36] <lochii> so it has happened to somebody else
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:13] <lochii> so the code in Device.py does this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:15] <lochii> session = SnmpSession(ip, timeout=timeout, port=port, retries=retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> sysTableOid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> oid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodcommunity = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodversion = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> devname = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:26] <lochii> for version in versions:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:29] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:31] <lochii> <snip>
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:34] <lochii> and it dies at "session.setVersion(version)"
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:45] <lochii> either because the session class does not have a setVersion (but I'm sure it does)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:48] <lochii> or the session object is invalid
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:52] <lochii> either one of the two
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:55] <lochii> how can I debug this?
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:05] <lochii> I tried putting in the following lines:
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession ip = %s", ip)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession timeout = %s", timeout)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession port = %s", port)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession retries = %s", retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:17] <lochii> but I dont know where log.debug goes, it doesn't seem to go into any of the logs I found
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:01] <lochii> I should first check that I have a valid session object shouldn't I?
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:11] <lochii> before I start accusing the module of stuffg
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:48] <lochii> and yes, I added:
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:50] <lochii> export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:57] <lochii> to head of zenfunctions
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:03] <lochii> before starting zope
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:07] <lochii> and I do have /lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:22] <lochii> but I dont know how to check if that actually worked
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lochii> hmm
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lochii> I think I may have found the problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:32] <lochii> tracing through ZOPE it seems not to be hooking in properly with libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:36] * lochii digs deeper
[07-Apr-2008 22:38:34] <lochii> I see
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[08-Apr-2008 00:11:30] <KillMeNow> hello folks
[08-Apr-2008 01:50:41] <KeithBilly> Hello, I have 2.1.3 and a monitor under ip services isn't using the ip i've defined. It keeps using the default ip. I've deleted the monitor and re-added and it won't check the right ip, what am i missing.
[08-Apr-2008 02:08:58] <KeithBilly> Can someone please point me to the work around for fixing mointors in ip services ignoring the ip address i've put in them?
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[08-Apr-2008 06:00:53] <Vco> anyone have any quick pointers on where I can start trying to determine why I'm not able to pull any CPU stats from my Linux boxes? SNMP appears to be working for everything else..
[08-Apr-2008 06:00:59] <Vco> starting to lose my mind
[08-Apr-2008 13:48:26] <julito> hi everybody
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:39] <julito> I'm newbie in zenoss
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:56] <julito> i'm trying it for 2 days and i need some help
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:20] <julito> I'm not able to have something on the network map
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:28] <julito> it's empty
[08-Apr-2008 14:20:42] <djpetro> julito: I had that problem, but I was just entering the wrong subnet. try entering the ip of your gateway (if you have it modeled)
[08-Apr-2008 14:28:05] <julito> djetro : thx, Does it matter if the gateway doesn't respond to snmp?
[08-Apr-2008 14:36:35] <djpetro> julito: I don't think so. there's also an issue with subnets in zenoss, see http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6049
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[08-Apr-2008 14:36:57] <djpetro> julito: chet luther has a work around listed there
[08-Apr-2008 14:40:02] <julito> djpetro : thanks a lot, i will try it
[08-Apr-2008 14:46:58] <cgibbons> hmmm
[08-Apr-2008 15:53:53] <locohost> when you rename a device, you have to move the rrd folder manually if you want to keep your data, that's pretty intuitive
[08-Apr-2008 18:06:16] <twm1010> Howdyhowdy...
[08-Apr-2008 18:17:12] <idea4gud> hi i am trying to monitor win2k3 server I have zenwin, zenwinmodeler and zeneventlog running
[08-Apr-2008 18:18:44] <idea4gud> $ZENHOME/bin/zenwin --option
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:00] <idea4gud> it just retruns the pid and status msg that program is running
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:33] <idea4gud> Also when i chaeck in the Zenoss dash board
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:07] <idea4gud> it says under Events of windows device that access is denied
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:14] <idea4gud> what could be possible reason
[08-Apr-2008 18:23:09] <djpetro> idea4gud: you might need to specify a username and password. checkout zWinUser and zWinPassword under the zProperties of the windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:25:58] <idea4gud> yeah i need to specify zwinuser as the zpassword as password of Windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:57:36] <idea4gud> djpetro: i specifed user id and password in my windows server zproperties as the user id and password of my windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 18:58:13] <idea4gud> but it still shows just same error
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:25] <djpetro> idea4gud: if it's a domain user, make sure you specify domain\username
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:44] <djpetro> also, try remodeling or deleting and recreating the device
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:46] <idea4gud> also I have added WInService as Application management But it doesnt provide me information
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[08-Apr-2008 20:10:13] <mrayzenoss> So are there any Zenoss employees on here besides myself?
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[08-Apr-2008 21:26:11] <idea4gud> I am able to run winexe service from console on my zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:35] <idea4gud> but i am not getting the desired response from zenwin and zenwinmodeler
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:42] <idea4gud> can any body help me plz
[08-Apr-2008 21:28:21] <idea4gud> locohost: are you still around
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:17] <magnachef> he's leaving
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:34] * magnachef works with locohost
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:09] <idea4gud> magna: can i ask you look at my query
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:24] <idea4gud> confused
[08-Apr-2008 21:34:15] <idea4gud> magna: i am able to get right response with ./winexe but when i try running zenwin and zenwinmodeller and eventlog
[08-Apr-2008 21:35:53] <magnachef> I don't use windows systems, but I'll take a look
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:29] <idea4gud> Ok i checked with zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:45] <idea4gud> on server for zeneventlog it says heartbeat failure
[08-Apr-2008 21:37:43] <magnachef> hmm...
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:31] <magnachef> not sure what the issue is...what does heartbeat refer to?
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:35] <magnachef> is it timing out?
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:17] <idea4gud> please pardon any silly questions but i am was just wondering do we need to install any other zenpack or something tp monitor windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:32] <idea4gud> as of now i have SNMP enabled and DCOM running
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:48] <idea4gud> Performed wbemtest successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:20] <idea4gud> but still the zenwinmodeller says my windows machine has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <idea4gud> any hints
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:48] <magnachef> I don't think so, you just have to put it under the /Devices/Windows class
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:34] <magnachef> and make sure that snmp is running on the server, and that you have the correct community string and that you have permission to poll it from your zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:58] <idea4gud> yes
[08-Apr-2008 22:47:47] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:07] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler node 146 has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:19] <magnachef> ahhh, so you're polling it via WMI and not SNMP?
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:56] <idea4gud> well first i setup SNMP
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:02] <idea4gud> i got this discovered
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:06] <idea4gud> on the network
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:19] <idea4gud> but it didnt provide me any further info i was looking for
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:37] <idea4gud> then i followed the docment that said about Monitoring Windows devices
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:50] <magnachef> maybe WMI isn't available/running/etc on the windows server?
[08-Apr-2008 22:50:24] <idea4gud> well i did perform wbemtest it ran successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:53:05] <idea4gud> i checked the WMi was running fine
[08-Apr-2008 22:55:13] <magnachef> not sure...WMI is not my strong suit
[08-Apr-2008 22:56:09] <idea4gud> ok thanx anyways for ur help
[08-Apr-2008 22:59:09] <magnachef> no problem
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[09-Apr-2008 10:45:00] <henkka_> I have a rather simple question that I can't find an answer from the zenoss web page, wiki or irc logs; Should "System Update" work for the VMWare Appliance beta 2.2?
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:17] <henkka_> doing 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core' works
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:28] <henkka_> but 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta' does not
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:40] <henkka_> Just to make sure this at least makes it to the IRC logs; selecting "System Update" from the rPath web interface gives: "Looking for available updates ...
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:43] <henkka_> Failed: (Unknown Exception Type) group-zenoss was not found on path zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta"
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:03] <danw__> hey guys getting a small error
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:05] <danw__> during install
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:07] <danw__> *****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> installing pysnmp
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> unpacking Twisted-2.5.0 in build/
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: bzip2: command not found
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: build/Twisted-2.5.0: No such file or directory
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:23] <danw__> can't find file to patch at input line 3
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:25] <danw__> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:28] <danw__> The text leading up to this was:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:30] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:33] <danw__> |--- TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py.orig 2006-12-27 11:42:32.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:36] <danw__> |+++ TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py 2006-12-27 11:42:38.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:40] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:42] <danw__> File to patch:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:45] <danw__> ****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:47] <danw__> anyone got any ideas
[09-Apr-2008 13:14:20] <henkka_> danw__: at least you're missing bzip2, start by installing that
[09-Apr-2008 13:16:13] <henkka_> danw__: the second error is most likely caused by the first one (file is not found, since it has not been unpacked from the archive)
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:07] <danw__> henkka_: thanks that seemed to have worked
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:29] <danw__> also am i correct in saying that i can install nagios plugins to zenoss?
[09-Apr-2008 15:59:19] <danw__> how can i remove zenoss from my debian box, i'm not really impressed with it?
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:10] <mrayzenoss> danw__: I assume everything is in /usr/local/zenoss
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:23] <mrayzenoss> danw__: anything specifically you didn't like?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:50] <JVirus> anyone to help a noob for a minute?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:53] <JVirus>
[09-Apr-2008 17:13:34] <JVirus> I nstalled Zenoss to Vmware, I also got the SNMP services running on my windows 2003 server
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:03] <JVirus> do I need to install something on my server to speak with zenoss or where is the windows configuration and some documentation on how it all integrates?
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:28] <JVirus> I have a SNMP book but it talkes about it while installing some other SNMP book because he doesnt like windows
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:34] <JVirus> not very helpfull
[09-Apr-2008 17:18:38] <JVirus> O.o
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:23] <idea4gud> Hi need a help with anyone for Windows monitoring
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:34] <idea4gud> Can anybody help me
[09-Apr-2008 17:42:33] <idea4gud> is there anyone around
[09-Apr-2008 17:43:14] <idea4gud> stuck with this problem zen.zenwinmodeler Skipping node 146 has bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 17:47:25] <idea4gud> do i need to install Zenwin on WIndows server
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:35] <jp10558> no
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:49] <jp10558> you don't need to install Zenwin
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[09-Apr-2008 19:31:59] <aedaemoen> hello guys...
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:03] <idea4gud> jp: i have this error that i am trying to debug since 2 days Bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:33] <idea4gud> Now i checked this wiki :http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToSetupZenWin
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:47] <__adytum-bot__> Title: HowToSetupZenWin - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[09-Apr-2008 19:39:27] <idea4gud> I am meeting all the requirements for the Windows machine
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[09-Apr-2008 20:40:28] <JVirus> I am new to linux and vmware, I finally figured out how to configrue snmp to run on my server but how do I get hamachi to run on zenoss server?
[09-Apr-2008 20:41:34] <JVirus> I looked thru the forums but didnt find anything
[09-Apr-2008 20:48:02] <BRKA> hi, quick question: I have a device that appears in the device issues portlet but the device itself has no issues or events, deleting and adding it again did not fix it. Any ideas ?
[09-Apr-2008 21:05:33] <mray> BRKA: You'll probably want to wipe the events status table
[09-Apr-2008 21:18:12] <BRKA> mray: k, found it in /Events/Net/Link. It appears that snmp trap sent by this device BEFORE it was added caused this. Thanks.
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[09-Apr-2008 22:26:55] <idea4gud> Push changes do in /devices/server/Windows
[09-Apr-2008 22:52:37] <idea4gud> can u please any1 help me understanding this post : pastebin.ca/978928
[09-Apr-2008 22:56:17] * idea4gud struggling
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[10-Apr-2008 05:47:41] <e^ipi> heyas
[10-Apr-2008 06:44:54] <henkka_> anyone here who knows how the VMWare appliance is supposed to work? Still need answer to my question from yesterday.
[10-Apr-2008 06:47:01] <henkka_> Or am I incorrect in my assumption that the VMWare appliance is supposed to be a carbon-copy of the preferred installation method on Linux systems? It strikes me as odd that for example the zenpack command won't work and one must use conary instead (that is somehow related to the rPath platform). Why not just provide WMWare image with the suggested Linux platform, if the VMWare appliance is not supported during development?
[10-Apr-2008 06:51:59] <e^ipi> I don't think anyone's around this late at night
[10-Apr-2008 08:07:19] <henkka_> e^ipi: I posted the question 22 hours ago, I guess no-one checks the irc logs?
[10-Apr-2008 08:08:19] <henkka_> I'll just file this as a bug then.
[10-Apr-2008 12:46:36] <jp10558> Anyone know why a command datasource would work if I manually run zencommand, but not through the normal polling?
[10-Apr-2008 12:57:56] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: ummmm not really, but I'm not using any zencommands
[10-Apr-2008 13:04:56] <nemo__> hoi
[10-Apr-2008 13:57:30] <locohost> anyone know a good source for info on adding devices through api?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:31] <nemo__> api ?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:38] <nemo__> i didnt know there was one
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:52] <locohost> wget 'http://admin::YADDAYADDA@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addLocation?deviceName=IP-NUMBER&devicePath=/New`
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:58] <locohost> something like that, to add devices
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[10-Apr-2008 14:24:18] <nemo__> locohost, i was aware of that, but i wouldnt call that an API
[10-Apr-2008 14:24:29] <nemo__> id call it doing a wget on a url and passing an arg
[10-Apr-2008 14:26:14] <locohost> heh, yeah, im trying to figure out exactly how i want to hit what url, what i did above doesnt seem to work. also, i am running the script from that box, so i might be able to use zendmd or something, not exactly sure
[10-Apr-2008 14:27:28] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget -o >/dev/null "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:04] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:18] <nemo__> w/e __adytum-bot__
[10-Apr-2008 14:28:26] <nemo__> someone shoot that bot
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:04] <nemo__> so your trying to set the location in yours locohost
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:10] <nemo__> not add a device
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:14] <locohost> that might explain why it didnt work
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:15] <locohost>
[10-Apr-2008 14:40:24] <Blinny> How can I change the severity of reported traps? For example, I have a server with two PSs, and when one is removed, the severity of 'redundancy lost' is only 2 I think. I'd like to red-flag the server when this occurs.
[10-Apr-2008 14:41:17] <nemo__> use a transform to adjust it
[10-Apr-2008 14:43:51] <Blinny> nemo__: I see in the admin guide on page 87 where it talks about this. Thank you - I'll do some reading.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:13] <nemo__> no probs bob ;p
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:37] <Blinny> I'm glad I found you.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:40] <Blinny> Sorry... couldn't help it.
[10-Apr-2008 15:03:08] <nemo__> hehe
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[10-Apr-2008 18:30:08] <idea4gud> the windows server which i am trying to monitor has doesnt hav domain group or domain
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:19] <idea4gud> do i need to hav this to hav WMI working correctly
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:29] <idea4gud> bcz since mine is local system account
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:45] <idea4gud> I am getting this Error in 3 modules while monitoring Windows machine I did try remodellingthe device
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:57] <idea4gud> also moved the events to the history
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:05] <idea4gud> but nothing is working out
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:25] <idea4gud> Error_Net_write_fault
[10-Apr-2008 19:38:08] <idea4gud> is there any1 around here
[10-Apr-2008 20:02:04] <henkka_> idea4gud: not for the last day or two, at least :/
[10-Apr-2008 20:08:47] <idea4gud> So u mean zenoss community has taken a break
[10-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <idea4gud> enjoying the spring on beaches of miami
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:04] <codestr0m> Ok.. maybe/certainly it's been brought up before, but I'd like to port zenoss over to postgresql
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:52] <codestr0m> I'm not sure how actively you're changing the scheme, but depending on how a conversation goes tomorrow if I do this maybe I can send the patch upstream?
[10-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <`m3> hey codestr0m ,i am not a dev, just a user
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:02] <codestr0m> `m3 : ok?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:06] <`m3> but does it need porting, i would have assumed that zenoss / zope uses some kind of db lyer, adob or whatever
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:31] <codestr0m>  `m3 have you read the install guide?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> 1.1. Major Dependencies
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> ---------------------------------------------------------------
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> - MySQL 5.0.x
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:55] <`m3> i guess i must have missed anything about postgress automatically
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:37] <codestr0m> it may be a trivial port of triggers + scheme, but a port never-the-less
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:43] <codestr0m> I haven't looked into it too deeply
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:00] <codestr0m> will discuss options tomorrow. just wanted to ping the channel and see if anyone cares
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:51] <`m3> kool
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:22] <idea4gud> can i monitor the event log on windows machines with out using WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:35] <idea4gud> since i have an error with WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:29] <npmccallum> can someone talk to me a bit how collector data is used?
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:45] <npmccallum> I want to write a collector for NetApps to collect filesystem stats
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:15] <npmccallum> I'd like these stats to be shown on the "OS / File Systems" page
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:53] <npmccallum> but I don't really understand what a relMap and an objectMap are and how they map to these various values
[10-Apr-2008 21:37:19] <`m3> npmccallum, they are called collector plugins
[10-Apr-2008 21:38:57] <`m3> probably you can find a sample py collector script if you do a find or similar under /opt/zenoss
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:18] <npmccallum> `m3: I realize that
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:27] <npmccallum> `m3: but none of them are documented
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:41] <npmccallum> and so it isn't obvious how they work
[10-Apr-2008 21:40:27] <`m3> well its all pretty new to me too, but most collectors do an snmp get on an oid right ?
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:13] <npmccallum> sure, that part is obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:20] <npmccallum> but what does Zenoss then do with that data
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:25] <npmccallum> that is not so obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:48:45] <b52laptop> hi
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[11-Apr-2008 04:50:11] <mf2ng> any1 got active directory to work? i managed to get auth working, but after dashboard zenoss replies with HTTP 302, temporarily moved
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[11-Apr-2008 07:15:22] <nemo_> morning
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[11-Apr-2008 08:59:58] <_Skid> Hi..
[11-Apr-2008 09:00:38] <_Skid> I have a problem with event mappings
[11-Apr-2008 09:01:38] <_Skid> I have played around with it for a week.. and I cannot understand it.
[11-Apr-2008 09:10:52] <_Skid> the event that I recive is default mapped to eventClass /Perf/Snmp .. in that class I have made a EventClass Mappings with the regex on ".*" or what ever.(tryed everything) and the zAction is set to move the event to history or drop.. but I cannot get it to work.
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:34] <nemo_> ohhh transforms !
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:52] <nemo_> if you dont have a component in the event, use a class level transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:20] <nemo_> e.g. goto /Events /App and more-> transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:35] <_Skid> I have diffrent components on that event.
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:18] <nemo_> _Skid, you should see an event count for ones that match your regex
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:22] <_Skid> do I realy need to transform it?.. I just want to drop or move the event to history
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:35] <nemo_> theres probably no need for a transform when the component is present
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:46] <nemo_> use a regex and set to drop the the zproperties
[11-Apr-2008 09:18:06] <nemo_> ( i just made a page at work documenting transforms ! )
[11-Apr-2008 09:21:22] <_Skid> I have made: events->perf->snmp Add mapping -> Regex: "Error.*" example: "Error reading value for "lo" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad)" zProperties: action drop.
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:09] <nemo_> ^Error.*
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:24] <nemo_> i transformed that too
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:40] <nemo_> make sure you component in the transform is the same as the one in the event log
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:53] <_Skid> bbl. lunch.
[11-Apr-2008 13:35:09] <mzolisi> hi\
[11-Apr-2008 13:40:25] <nemo_> lo/
[11-Apr-2008 14:52:46] <likuidkewl> Anyone know where to find the latest PERC6i MIBS from Dell for a PE2950?
[11-Apr-2008 14:55:16] <nemo_> dell?
[11-Apr-2008 15:21:30] <likuidkewl> Sorry to ask again but we are looking for information on using Zenoss with the Dell PE2900 w/PERC/6i. We have most of the components monitoring just fine but these PERC/6i controllers. Any information is greatly appreciated
[11-Apr-2008 15:41:59] <mrayzenoss> likuidkewl: I'd probably have to agree with nemo_ , Dell should have those available.
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:03] <mrayzenoss> if not, try http://mibdepot.com
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:51] <likuidkewl> Thanks, I had a dropped connection and missed the reply.
[11-Apr-2008 15:43:34] <mrayzenoss> good luck
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:50] <_Skid> I have a problem with an event Transform.... Im not any python coder.. but.. this is what I have...
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:57] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \"lo\" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:05] <_Skid> and this is kind of what I want to do..
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:09] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:21] <_Skid> how do I make it work?
[11-Apr-2008 16:31:58] <nemo_> again, is there a component listed ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:09] <nemo_> i am transforming the same oid error event
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # get the event summary but make sure to return None if it shouldn't exist for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> s = getattr(evt, "summary", None)
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # check to see whether or not we have a summary
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s.find("Error reading value for") > -1:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:48] <nemo_> evt._action = "drop"
[11-Apr-2008 16:33:04] <_Skid> diffrent components
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:28] <nemo_> there are two possible places for transforms btw
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> but isnt that the same as: if evt.message.find("Error reading value for ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:39] <nemo_> one is an event mapping
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:46] <nemo_> the other is the class level
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:14] <nemo_> whats after your:
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:36] <nemo_> and it doesnt glow red in zenoss ( theres some form of syntax checking that turns it red )
[11-Apr-2008 16:36:58] <nemo_> i try to make my regex's simple as poss
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:08] <_Skid> I wouldnt call that an regexp.. its just a matter of finding one string within the string.
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:59] <nemo_> ("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ")
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:08] <nemo_> the ('s need escaping for sure
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:19] <_Skid> yea.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:27] <_Skid> but that is what I want to do
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:31] <_Skid> its not working.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:35] <nemo_> gotta go home now, gl with it
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:42] <nemo_> so simplify
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:56] <nemo_> ^Error.*oid.*
[11-Apr-2008 16:40:08] <_Skid> dont work..
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:23] <nemo_> >=1 ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:36] <nemo_> i dunno , gtg , later
[11-Apr-2008 17:26:58] <twm1010> does anyone here have a good understanding of exactly how performance templates get auto-applied to interfaces?
[11-Apr-2008 17:33:36] <magnachef> I believe that any interface just matches the ethernetCsmacd template unless there are others that match the interface name
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:13] <twm1010> ok
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:23] <twm1010> so if i build a template containing that interface type, it uses that instead?
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:25] <twm1010> that makes sense
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:10] <magnachef> so if you create an interface type of eth1 for /device/servers/linux, it will only apply that to eth1 interfaces within that class
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:22] <magnachef> at least that's how I believe it to work
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:36] <twm1010> and if i remodel, a device, it auto-reassigns the template i wonder?
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:41] <twm1010> i will test :-D
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:16] <magnachef> I'm actually wrestling with having it not alert for my bond0 interfaces, as they show up as 10 Mbps for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:34] <magnachef> so I'm going over the 75% threshold
[11-Apr-2008 17:38:53] <magnachef> not sure how to change the interface Type though to match the template
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:04] <magnachef> i think that's what's messing me up
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:07] <twm1010> well ya know, i'd like to differentiate between a serial link and a controller
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:18] <twm1010> its okay that the serial ones grab ethernetCSmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:08] <twm1010> hrmm, i know our multilink virtual interfaces show with a speed that is the sum of all that serial links part of the multilink
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:31] <magnachef> yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to make my bond0 interfaces not be of Type ethernetCsmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:40] <magnachef> if anyone knows, do tell :-)
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:40] <twm1010> remodeling now...
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:46] <twm1010> i see now where to get the "type"
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:53] <twm1010> i was going of the interface name showing up
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:06] <twm1010> This makes so much more sense now :|
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:42] <twm1010> i'll be damned... it works
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:51] <twm1010> now you would think they'd have standard templates for your average controllers
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:54] <twm1010> ds1, ds3, etc.
[11-Apr-2008 17:45:22] <magnachef> so how did you get it to change the interface type?
[11-Apr-2008 17:45:51] <magnachef> I can't get mine to be anything besides ethernetCsmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:14] <twm1010> well i didn't change the interface type
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:28] <twm1010> i clicked on the interface, and saw what "type" it was seeing the interface as
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:36] <twm1010> I assumed a T1 would be T1, alas it is DS1
[11-Apr-2008 17:47:48] <magnachef> yeah, my device is a linux server, so it's probably just seeing my bonded interface as just another ethernet interface
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:25] <magnachef> so I just need to figure out how to make it of type bond0, which is what I created a template for, which will not send alerts at 75% utilization
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:26] <twm1010> yes most likely, and i suppose it is
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:43] <twm1010> do you need this to happen elsewhere?
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:51] <twm1010> i mean, you could do a local template for it
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:03] <magnachef> nah, just on my 70+ servers with bonded intefaces
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:09] <twm1010> surely someone has hit this same wall
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:24] <twm1010> i seem to remember one of our redhat servers showing up like that now
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:32] <magnachef> SNMP shows that it is 10 Mbps...so it'd be nice if I could fix it on the SNMP side
[11-Apr-2008 17:50:43] <magnachef> yeah, I've corrected the situation with propVirtual interfaces on Cisco devices, but it's trickier when it's coming up as a regular ethernet interface
[11-Apr-2008 17:50:55] <magnachef> oh well :-)
[11-Apr-2008 17:52:59] <twm1010> did you have to use a read/write community to get trending data?
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:12] <magnachef> just a read
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:20] <magnachef> I use read-only
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:33] <twm1010> k
[11-Apr-2008 17:56:11] <twm1010> seems like about a week ago i stopped getting trending data from all my network devices :O
[11-Apr-2008 17:56:35] <magnachef> can you manually do a snmpwalk on them from your server?
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:20] <twm1010> yeah
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:34] <twm1010> i upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3 about that time
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:44] <magnachef> do they start back up after remodeling?
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:53] <magnachef> oh no
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:07] <magnachef> yeah, I ran into the same issue with the upgrade
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:21] <magnachef> I actually had to rebuild Zenoss from scratch
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:22] <twm1010> how did you fix it?
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:25] <twm1010> wha?!
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:27] <twm1010> f that
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:34] <twm1010> hehehe
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:45] <magnachef> yeah, the upgrade is quite an abortion
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:55] <magnachef> there's a lot of talk about it on the forums
[11-Apr-2008 17:59:47] <twm1010> i wonder if my system templates are effected
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:26] <twm1010> if i'm missing "uptime" from alot of servers, that would explain it
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:30] <magnachef> I even did the zenmigrate, and followed the docs that existed for how to upgrade, and it caused some major issues
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:58] <twm1010> i know that Zenoss is still trying to get SNMP data for sure, i wonder where it's going?
[11-Apr-2008 18:01:50] <magnachef> look in your $ZENHOME/log/zenperflog.log
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:02] <magnachef> or some log like it
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:14] <magnachef> make sure there's no errors
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:30] <magnachef> also do a /etc/init.d/zenoss status to make sure all your processes are running
[11-Apr-2008 18:19:53] <twm1010> yeah they're all running
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:01] <twm1010> and yeah zenperf is having issues :|
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:27] <magnachef> yeah, same issue that I (and many other upgraders) have had
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:58] <twm1010> ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'has_key'
[11-Apr-2008 18:26:44] <twm1010> just found that thread
[11-Apr-2008 18:34:10] <magnachef> yeah, I didn't find it until after I upgraded as well
[11-Apr-2008 18:37:46] <twm1010> well... im attempting some of the fixes posted there
[11-Apr-2008 18:37:59] <twm1010> i'll move my 5 core routers back into production state and see if i get data
[11-Apr-2008 18:48:31] <magnachef> let me know how that goes
[11-Apr-2008 18:48:54] <magnachef> I thought I tried everything on the forum before resorting to the rebuild
[11-Apr-2008 18:50:37] <twm1010> did you do the edit of the minmax.py ?
[11-Apr-2008 18:51:18] <twm1010> my zenoss box is going nuts
[11-Apr-2008 18:51:35] <twm1010> must be like 20-30 snmpwalks going right now
[11-Apr-2008 18:53:52] <magnachef> yep
[11-Apr-2008 18:54:38] <twm1010> i may be back in business tho
[11-Apr-2008 18:54:59] <twm1010> give it a few more minutes
[11-Apr-2008 18:57:37] <jp10558> Did anyone get the UHCD Device map working with generic Linux systems?
[11-Apr-2008 18:59:21] <`m3> yeh as long as snmp is working, and you got your collector plugins setup
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:05] <twm1010> chef: yeah, i think its working again
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:09] <twm1010> got my uptime, and let me see some data
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:38] <magnachef> cool
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:04] <twm1010> looks like i got to take a serious at look what kind of interfaces i want it to ignore altogether
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:21] <twm1010> and then create templates for the rest that don't use ethernetCSmacd
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:29] <magnachef> yeah, like propVirtual
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:30] <twm1010> but i notice that some of them are of a type with "illegal" characters
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:48] <twm1010> I can't exactly put AT&T DS0 Point (64Kbps) as the name of a template
[11-Apr-2008 19:16:04] <magnachef> it just needs to be the same name as the Type
[11-Apr-2008 19:23:02] <twm1010> well that is whats showing up in the "type" field when i click on the interface
[11-Apr-2008 19:23:06] <twm1010> weird huh
[11-Apr-2008 19:26:42] <magnachef> that's what you'll have to call the template then
[11-Apr-2008 19:55:23] <twm1010> still there chef?
[11-Apr-2008 19:55:42] <magnachef> yep
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:01] <twm1010> help me understand something? if i want to zenoss to alert when say... a serial interface goes down
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:08] <twm1010> how do you set that up?
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:31] <twm1010> im using the loopback IP address as my management address for my routers, so if a path goes down, it should find another way around but i still want it to let me know an interface is down
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:35] <magnachef> alert in the event console? or send an email?
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:48] <twm1010> well, an event is a good start, i can take care of the e-mailing part later
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:13] <magnachef> it should give you a ping error or somethign like that
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:18] <magnachef> that should all be built in
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:31] <magnachef> AFAIK
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:35] <twm1010> right, because the IP on that interface is down
[11-Apr-2008 19:58:02] <twm1010> so the ping monitor automatically pings every interface with an IP on a device?
[11-Apr-2008 19:58:56] <twm1010> confusing
[11-Apr-2008 19:59:09] <magnachef> it should yeah
[11-Apr-2008 20:16:19] <twm1010> hah, awesome i have 3484 bad OID messages right now
[11-Apr-2008 20:17:31] <twm1010> wish i could force a remodel of all devices in a class from the GUI
[11-Apr-2008 20:23:28] <magnachef> I also wish that
[11-Apr-2008 20:23:42] <magnachef> I needed to do a bulk remodel today and it was a hassle
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:36] <idea4gud> Hi Zenoss forums are locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <twm1010> are they
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:46] <idea4gud> any1 has any idea
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:59] <idea4gud> yeah i tried last nite to post my error
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:08] <idea4gud> but it said the forum is locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:27] <magnachef> I'm in the forums
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:40] <twm1010> magna: chet replied to your post
[11-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <twm1010> i like the wildcard suggestion, wonder why he couldn't get it to work
[11-Apr-2008 20:29:19] <idea4gud> so i cant post any msgs
[11-Apr-2008 20:33:05] <idea4gud> is it really locked? i mean the link POST new msgs doesnt work
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:09] <twm1010> do you have a login?
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:18] <idea4gud> yes i logged in
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:21] <idea4gud> i am registered
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:30] <twm1010> which forum are you trying to post in
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:35] <twm1010> zenoss-users, zenoss-dev?
[11-Apr-2008 20:36:27] <idea4gud> i mean login i try postin in zenoss-sers
[11-Apr-2008 20:36:47] <idea4gud> it says new-posts locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:14] <twm1010> i can't remember if accounts have to be "Activated"
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:21] <idea4gud> k
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:49] <idea4gud> now do u c at the bottom the buttons for the New posts
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:51] <twm1010> works for me
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:09] <twm1010> for me the new topic button is in the top left
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:29] <idea4gud> ok logout and relogin
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:31] <twm1010> and the reply to an existing post is in the bottom left, neither greyed out
[11-Apr-2008 20:39:18] <twm1010> the main page shows forums is locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:39:45] <twm1010> but the zenoss-users subforum works
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:27] <twm1010> time for me to go
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:30] <twm1010> back on monday
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:31] <twm1010> gnight
[11-Apr-2008 22:55:22] <KillMeNow> have a good weekend folks
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[12-Apr-2008 18:47:31] <jeffspeff> hi, does zenoss monitor the hardware components, like voltages on a power supply, SMART statistics on a hard drive, etc. ?
[12-Apr-2008 21:42:49] <idea4gud> hi any1 out there
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[13-Apr-2008 20:52:00] <adv> anyone alive?
[13-Apr-2008 20:52:08] <adv> why choose zenoss instead of nagios?
[13-Apr-2008 20:52:19] <adv> i want a comparing or smth
[13-Apr-2008 20:57:09] <adv> comparison
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[14-Apr-2008 06:36:40] <zen_amped> hey everyone
[14-Apr-2008 08:13:03] <henkka_> adv: honestly, I don't know. Couldn't get zenoss to work at all, received warnings from the Zenoss system itself all the time (this was with the VMWare Appliance). Tried out Nagios and after 2 hours of configuration it now monitors my (small) set of servers and sends notifications by email if there's something fishy going on.
[14-Apr-2008 08:26:42] <zen_amped> is anyone actualy here? or is everyone idle...
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:12] <zen_amped> well...
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:15] <DarkMats> Schh! It's the annual idle contest!
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:19] <DarkMats> damn... I lost
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:21] <zen_amped> lol
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:09] <zen_amped> I never really understood why anyone would idle ircs, but now I know, thanks
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:17] <DarkMats> np
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:21] <zen_amped> so what do we get if we win?
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:33] <DarkMats> Dunno, Nobody ever won
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:50] <henkka_> zen_amped: no open tickets, I suppose?
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:23] <DarkMats> Hah! henkka_ is out too! Only 36 people left!
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:30] <zen_amped> ahh, ill tell installing zenoss has been one of the hardest things for me to do.
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:38] <zen_amped> tell you**
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:03] <DarkMats> Hard?
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:28] <DarkMats> rpm -Uvh zenoss*rpm, done
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:54] <zen_amped> I tried intalling it on FreeBSD 7.0 and ran into just about every install issue there was and then when I did get it installed everything was acting weird, so I finally gave in and installed CentOS on one of my servers
[14-Apr-2008 08:31:39] <zen_amped> and still, doing the rpm install, I ran into a few issues that good'ole goole helped me solve
[14-Apr-2008 08:31:50] <DarkMats> Ok, only installed it on rpm based and debian, so i wouldn't know about FreeBSD
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:36] <zen_amped> My friends laugh at me because I have the worst luck with any *nix distro with my hardware. Ubuntu even trows a kernel packet when I try to install on my laptop. But I do have Zenoss up and running and I half to say it is worth all the hassle I went through. You guys know of any common reasons why rrd files are not being created for my CPU?
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:48] <zen_amped> distros*
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:59] <zen_amped> throws*
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:08] <zen_amped> sry I am using a mac keyboard
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:16] <zen_amped> so I can't spell
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:57] <DarkMats> IT can't spell. Allways blame the keyboard...
[14-Apr-2008 08:36:21] <zen_amped> lol, I like your way of thinking
[14-Apr-2008 08:36:28] <DarkMats> thx
[14-Apr-2008 08:37:06] <DarkMats> But I'm no help with the rrd files...
[14-Apr-2008 08:38:04] <zen_amped> thx anyways, ill figure it out...eventually
[14-Apr-2008 14:01:50] <Daern> Sorry to bother anyone on here, I just have a quick question. I have setup PHP Network Weathermap on my zenoss server and I was looking and unable to find a quick reference on how to add a link under the main views section of the menu for a simple HTML file.
[14-Apr-2008 14:02:10] <Daern> could someone point me in the direction of documentation that would be helpful?
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:24] <nemo_> i can point you to the file to edit
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:37] <nemo_> but your changes will be lost if you upgrade your zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:50] <Daern> that will be wonderful
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:56] <nemo_> 2 secx
[14-Apr-2008 14:04:02] <Daern> thx!
[14-Apr-2008 14:06:54] <nemo_> /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenDeviceACL/skins/ZenDeviceACL/leftPane.pt
[14-Apr-2008 14:10:42] <Daern> Thank you!
[14-Apr-2008 14:10:46] <nemo_> yw
[14-Apr-2008 14:24:54] <Daern> sweet, I got the link added. I just set it up to open my network map in a new window for the time being. I assume in order to understand how to get it to load within the pane on the right-hand side I need to read the manual on Zope? Or is there another set of documentation that would help more in customizing my interface for Zenoss? as of right now we're running about 1500 devices on so I'm trying to find ways to distill information and correlate data as muc
[14-Apr-2008 14:24:54] <Daern> d hopefully keep things pretty and relatively easy to maintaine in the process.
[14-Apr-2008 14:25:24] <Daern> correction, on the pane on the left-hand side*
[14-Apr-2008 14:26:41] <nemo_> zeoctl restart
[14-Apr-2008 14:27:00] <nemo_> as zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 14:27:11] <nemo_> running most things as root will bork0n them
[14-Apr-2008 14:28:59] <nemo_> not sure about general customisation, i find grepping through things the easiest way ;p
[14-Apr-2008 14:29:15] <nemo_> not aware of any official docs on the matter
[14-Apr-2008 14:32:43] <Daern> k, I'll just keep digging around then. I'm lucky enough to have VMWare VI, so I just take a snapshot before I make changes, so if I do break stuff I just revert back to the snapshot.
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:03] <idea4gud> hi guyz I am trying to get WMI information since last 10 days
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:10] <idea4gud> but not successfull
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:30] <idea4gud> had been on the forums searching wasnt able to get much information
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:39] <idea4gud> can any1 help
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:01] <nemo_> did you install the wmi zenpack
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:04] <idea4gud> yes
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:24] <nemo_> is the wmi service installed and configured on the server end ( client of zenoss, windows server )
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:35] <nemo_> can you test it locally with wbemtest
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:37] <idea4gud> i am runnin
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:43] <idea4gud> 2.1.3
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:02] <idea4gud> do i have to install zenpack separately
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:27] <idea4gud> bcz the documentation doesnt talk of zenpack
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:57] <idea4gud> I hav wbemtest successfully tested @ local windows machine
[14-Apr-2008 15:49:18] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossnews.2008-04-03.8832160898
[14-Apr-2008 15:49:33] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Advanced WMI Performance Monitor ZenPack for Zenoss Core - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 15:51:00] <idea4gud> the Error i am getting is Error_NET_WRITE_FAULT
[14-Apr-2008 15:51:51] <idea4gud> nemo: also I am in total congruence with the official documentation
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:15] <idea4gud> since it didnt say about Zenpack i didnt have it
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:17] <nemo_> ok i was getting that too
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:28] <nemo_> but it was because some of my machines were not in the domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:54] <nemo_> I use a domain and 99% of servers were joined, 1 zenoss user to configure for the domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:18] <idea4gud> the server and windows machine are both in the same subnet with the firewall on the subnet
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:30] <nemo_> you need to set the wmi user in the zproperties for /devices/servers/windows
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:35] <nemo_> and password*
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:36] <idea4gud> yeah did
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:59] <idea4gud> also tried with .\user id as mention in the forums no luck
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:18] <nemo_> DOMAIN\user
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:36] <nemo_> well its simple, are you in a domain or not ?
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:36] <idea4gud> zwmiuser is the Admin of the local windows macchine
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:43] <idea4gud> but i am not in domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:50] <idea4gud> i am local
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:55] <nemo_> ok so no SOMETHING\user for you
[14-Apr-2008 15:55:01] <nemo_> just user
[14-Apr-2008 15:56:27] <nemo_> ok time to roll home, laters ppl, good luck idea4gud !
[14-Apr-2008 15:57:04] <idea4gud> nemo hold on one query
[14-Apr-2008 15:57:15] <idea4gud> do u still suggest i go for zenpack as u said
[14-Apr-2008 17:35:14] <idea4gud> hi guyz how can we monitor webservice using zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 17:45:25] cgibbons_ is now known as cgibbons
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:06] <go> Hello everybody
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:24] <go> i have some trouble installing zenoss on my debian server
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:45] <magnachef> from source?
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:28] <go> magnachef: yes, or is there an deb package to install it?
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:31] <go> http://pastebin.com/m2e78a19f
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:38] <go> that is the direct output
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:13] <magnachef> don't know
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:18] <magnachef> any reason you're using debian?
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:59] <go> magnachef: it is a server in the company i work in.
[14-Apr-2008 18:04:16] <go> we are searching for that kind of solution and so i wanted to test ist
[14-Apr-2008 18:04:38] <go> an debian was already runing on that machine
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:01] <magnachef> I see
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:28] <go> core problem is that the install-script cannot access a specific file
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:34] <go> like i see
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:40] <go> but in cannot install it as root
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:49] <go> i have to install it as zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:57] <magnachef> change the file perms
[14-Apr-2008 18:07:13] <magnachef> there's a forum post on this
[14-Apr-2008 18:07:48] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551
[14-Apr-2008 18:08:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 18:09:45] <go> thx ill have a try
[14-Apr-2008 18:09:53] <magnachef> np
[14-Apr-2008 18:10:52] * magnachef uses Centos 4.5 and the zenoss rpms
[14-Apr-2008 18:13:00] <go> magnachef: when i let zenoss run in a virtualmachine, will it be as functional as a serverinstallation? we only have a small company network
[14-Apr-2008 18:15:48] <magnachef> yeah, it should
[14-Apr-2008 18:16:00] <magnachef> you probably lose some performance
[14-Apr-2008 18:16:16] <magnachef> but if it's not a big network, then you'll be fine
[14-Apr-2008 18:17:40] <idea4gud> magnachef: http://pastebin.ca/984996
[14-Apr-2008 18:17:48] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 984996 (at pastebin.ca)
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:02] <idea4gud> how can i monitor webservice using zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:14] <idea4gud> monitor here refers to two things
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:22] <idea4gud> 1)IF service is up and running
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:49] <idea4gud> 2)Response of service is correct i mean there are no grbage values
[14-Apr-2008 18:27:49] <magnachef> zenpacks
[14-Apr-2008 18:28:02] <magnachef> and IpService, then choose the port
[14-Apr-2008 18:32:35] <magnachef> you'll also want to add the httpd service under OSProcess
[14-Apr-2008 18:33:44] <idea4gud> but will i be able to check whether i am getting the rite contents
[14-Apr-2008 18:33:49] <idea4gud> or not
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:24] <magnachef> you'll have to setup a check to parse the results
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:32] <magnachef> I think there's a way to do this natively within zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:46] * magnachef is unsure how to do it at this point
[14-Apr-2008 18:44:59] <Daern> is there a way to access graphs generated from zenoss from 3rd party app? I've already gotten the PHP Weathermap to work nicely, but I'm trying to setup a mouseover function so that when you move the mouse over a link it will pop up with a graph showing the last 24 hours of activity on that link.
[14-Apr-2008 18:45:55] <magnachef> are you using the cacti weathermap by chance?
[14-Apr-2008 18:46:27] <Daern> basically, but the command line version, no cacti
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:00] <magnachef> you can view the link to just the graph from zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:13] <magnachef> just right click and do "view image"
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:33] <magnachef> hopefully, there's a way to build the URL
[14-Apr-2008 18:49:50] <Daern> *fingers crossed*
[14-Apr-2008 18:50:46] <magnachef> do you know what I'm saying?
[14-Apr-2008 18:50:55] <Daern> I believe so
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:20] <magnachef> cool
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:24] <magnachef> let me know how that goes
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:39] <magnachef> did you think of just using the zenoss google maps?
[14-Apr-2008 18:56:28] <Daern> That's the thing, all the offices are within about a block of each other, we are wanting to see the different load between organizations so that we can gauge the amoune of traffic each department is putting on the network at any one time. I have the data within zenoss, just getting it to where others within IS understand it is the challenging part
[14-Apr-2008 18:56:36] <Daern> \
[14-Apr-2008 19:02:18] <Daern> What I may look at is something rrdcgi for just generating the graphs for me, zenoss appears to use a rendering agent when you view the graph so I can't just link to a URL. I can at least use the RRD data that it pulls down for the graph so that I don't have multiple applications polling for the same data.
[14-Apr-2008 19:02:46] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[14-Apr-2008 19:12:14] <magnachef> or you can just have a cgi that you pass in the device from the map, and it'll display a graph based on that
[14-Apr-2008 19:12:27] <magnachef> all you'd really need to do is create the rrd graph command
[14-Apr-2008 19:45:01] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[14-Apr-2008 20:01:27] <npmccallum> So I've got a ZenPack that contains a modeler. However, that modeler is not recognized by Zenoss. Why?
[14-Apr-2008 20:01:49] <npmccallum> The modeler (collector) works when not in a ZenPack
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:08] <npmccallum> Do any devs actually hang out in here?
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:40] <magnachef> you should try the zenoss-dev group in the forums
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <magnachef> they definitely hang there
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:45] <mrayzenoss> Well, I'm a new Zenoss employee going through training
[14-Apr-2008 20:20:04] <mrayzenoss> as Community Manager, so I'm here to point you back into the forums
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:03] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: so as community manager, tell devs to interact with the community more
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:11] <mrayzenoss> actually I do
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:38] <mrayzenoss> but they tend to watch the forums more because they're less time-sensitive
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:39] <npmccallum> I have a bunch of Zenoss related stuff I'd like to write, but I can't seem to get people to answer technical questions
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:50] <npmccallum> forums suck
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:01] <mrayzenoss> well, I'd be more than happy to help you find the answers you need
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:04] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:08] <npmccallum> thanks
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:36] <npmccallum> I say forums suck because, when I want a direct answer to a simple question, it usually takes a day or more to get an answer on forums/mailing lists
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:53] <mrayzenoss> true
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:56] <npmccallum> I'm a self-starter, so its not like I'm looking for hand holding
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah, whenever you run into rough spots, let me know
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:18] <mrayzenoss> like where our documentation sucks
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:18] <npmccallum> I've got one right now
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:20] <mrayzenoss> and examples
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:31] <npmccallum> I've written a modeler plugin for NetApps
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:33] <mrayzenoss> I don't know all the technical stuff yet
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <mrayzenoss> but I can find someone who should
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <npmccallum> (something I'm sure Zenoss probably would be interested in)
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:47] <mrayzenoss> oh sure
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:56] <malbon> mrayzenoss: adding a tab for a device could really really be documented (hint hint)
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:15] <npmccallum> If I put the modeler in /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/ it works
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:26] <npmccallum> pulls in all the data-y goodness
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:55] <npmccallum> If I put the modeler in a ZenPack (by dropping it in the modeler/ directory), Zenoss never sees it
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:22] <npmccallum> I've tried to copy from the DellMonitor ZenPack as much as possible
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:37] <npmccallum> but there doesn't seem like I'm missing anything
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:57] <malbon> npmccallum: look at the HPUX one, I know that works a-ok
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:57] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: now, if there was a dev in here, this would be a 30 second answer
[14-Apr-2008 20:27:15] <mrayzenoss> right, I'm asking the other guys in training and they don't know yet either
[14-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <malbon> npmccallum: you put it under $zenpackhome/modeler/plugins? not just modeler, that one tripped me up too
[14-Apr-2008 20:28:32] <npmccallum> malbon: that might be it, lemme look...
[14-Apr-2008 20:29:55] * malbon afk
[14-Apr-2008 20:30:00] <mrayzenoss> so I just pinged a few developers and they said if you post to zenoss-zenpacks they'll respond fairly quickly
[14-Apr-2008 20:30:18] <mrayzenoss> I think it gets closer attention than zenoss-dev and zenoss-user since there's less traffic
[14-Apr-2008 20:31:31] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: I never even knew about that list, thanks
[14-Apr-2008 20:32:32] <npmccallum> malbon: I think that was it, testing now
[14-Apr-2008 20:37:29] <magnachef> mpmccallum: I'd be interested in that NetApp plugin
[14-Apr-2008 20:37:53] <npmccallum> magnachef: As soon as it works right as a ZenPack, you'll have it
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:04] <npmccallum> Currently I've just added FileSystem states
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:12] <npmccallum> s/states/stats/
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:13] <magnachef> cool...because there's a NetApp zenpack already taht I've installed
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:22] <npmccallum> yes, this is an "upgrade" to that one
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:27] <magnachef> which is good, because the current one doesn't give that
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:41] <npmccallum> it also contains the NetApp mib
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:41] <magnachef> nice! I was going to write the same upgrade!
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:55] <npmccallum> I will be adding other "product info" related stuff
[14-Apr-2008 20:39:52] <npmccallum> magnachef: want to be the test guinea-pig ??
[14-Apr-2008 20:40:20] <magnachef> yeah, I was just about to suggest that
[14-Apr-2008 20:44:54] <npmccallum> magnachef: toss me your email and I'll send it to you in a few minutes
[14-Apr-2008 20:45:45] <malbon> npmccallum: so does it work now?
[14-Apr-2008 20:46:03] <npmccallum> malbon: more or less, I'm just repacking it and I'm going to test it once more
[14-Apr-2008 20:57:33] <idea4gud> i dont see the HttpMonitor Zenpack on the deve.zenoss.com
[14-Apr-2008 21:00:36] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: what are you looking for?
[14-Apr-2008 21:01:07] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/httpmonitor
[14-Apr-2008 21:01:21] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:13:28] <idea4gud> mray:it says page not found
[14-Apr-2008 21:14:23] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: check your inbox
[14-Apr-2008 21:15:31] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: enter the URL into Google and see the cached version. That URL works for me, and I'm at home
[14-Apr-2008 21:17:27] <idea4gud> when u click on EL5 or 4 that takes u dev.zenoss.com/* which say files not found
[14-Apr-2008 21:17:48] <idea4gud> i can go to the link but the files listed on link are not therer
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:08] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: oh, bad URL?
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:29] <idea4gud> i idd find a URL page
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:38] <idea4gud> but httpMonitor wasnt listed on that page
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:48] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: I'll get someone to fix that
[14-Apr-2008 21:19:16] <idea4gud> ok thanx
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:02] <magnachef> npmccallum: did you get my pm?
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:22] <npmccallum> magnachef: no
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:36] <idea4gud> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenpack-contrib/
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /downloads/zenpack-contrib (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:53] <idea4gud> mray: http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenpack-contrib/
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:59] <idea4gud> doesnt hav HttpMonitor
[14-Apr-2008 21:21:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /downloads/zenpack-contrib (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:21:38] <magnachef> ahh, I sent you my email. Are pm's disabled?
[14-Apr-2008 21:23:15] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: HttpMonitor isn't community, it's core. I've sent the info to development, they should have it fixed probably tomorrow morning
[14-Apr-2008 21:23:38] <idea4gud> k
[14-Apr-2008 21:24:24] <idea4gud> mrayzenoss : for monitoring HttpService Do i have to SNMP access to that machine and Admin priviliges
[14-Apr-2008 21:26:16] <mrayzenoss> I don't believe so
[14-Apr-2008 21:30:16] <magnachef> npmccallum: magnachef at gmail
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[15-Apr-2008 05:39:50] <e^ipi> heyas
[15-Apr-2008 05:40:12] <e^ipi> anyone around?
[15-Apr-2008 06:40:18] <nemo_> morno
[15-Apr-2008 06:50:56] <e^ipi> zenoss is being less than helpful...
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:14] <e^ipi> for one, is there any way to set up a device based on ip:port ?
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:20] <e^ipi> rather than just ip?
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:37] <nemo_> read up on zope
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:37] <e^ipi> i have an ssh tunnel in to my machine from a whole wack of hosts
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:46] <nemo_> thats what your really dealing with
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:07] <nemo_> btw zenoss is on 8080
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:18] <e^ipi> i know that
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:24] <e^ipi> i'm talking about snmp ports
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:53] <e^ipi> i have about 32 hosts running snmp, and the host machine has a pile of ssh tunnels in to it
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:09] <e^ipi> cacti can see all of them, so no problem there
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:35] <DarkMats> when you edit a device you can set the SNMP port
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:47] <DarkMats> can't you set that to the tunnelport than?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:23] <e^ipi> but i can't have 32 devices all with the same IP, can i?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:25] <e^ipi> differing only by port
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:35] <DarkMats> Ah, true
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:47] <e^ipi> no solution then?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:58] <DarkMats> Not that I can think of
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:05] <e^ipi> bugger
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:40] <DarkMats> unless...
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:53] <DarkMats> the tunnels terminate at the zenoss server?
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:09] <DarkMats> you can set a different IP for each server there
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:56] <DarkMats> ssh -L 127.0.0.2:169:dummyhost:169 sshtunnel
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:56] <DarkMats> ssh -L 127.0.0.3:169:dummyhost2:169 sshtunnel etc.
[15-Apr-2008 07:01:48] <DarkMats> is that any help e^ipi?
[15-Apr-2008 07:01:57] <e^ipi> that might work actually, thanks
[15-Apr-2008 07:02:02] <DarkMats> np
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:02] <e^ipi> hmm... " snmpwalk -v 2c -c mycommunity tcp:127.0.0.2:16100 " works
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:06] <e^ipi> but zenoss still can't find it
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:20] <e^ipi> "no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2"
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:35] <e^ipi> thoughts? opinions?
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:05] <DarkMats> Very strange... No more ideas. Sorry...
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:12] <e^ipi> :-/
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:17] <e^ipi> thx anyhow
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:20] <DarkMats> np
[15-Apr-2008 10:36:16] <henkka__> e^ipi: There are a number of reasons why this might fail. Keep in mind that in case you are using openssh, even _it_ does not distinguish a server by IP:port combination. It's not that unlikely for Zenoss to fail at the same task (especially if all IP's are dummy addresses for 'localhost').
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[15-Apr-2008 11:33:37] <zen_amped> anyone here or is everyone idle?
[15-Apr-2008 11:34:28] <zen_amped> anyone?
[15-Apr-2008 11:39:06] <nemo_> duh ! ask your question, its irc
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> 2008-04-13 16:27:45 ERROR zen.ZenHub: 0x6025
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 240, in processQueue
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> self.doProcessQueue()
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 255, in doProcessQueue
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> obj = self.dmd._p_jar[oid]
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:25] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py", line 207, in get
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:27] <zen_amped> p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:29] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 746, in load
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:31] <zen_amped> return self.loadEx(oid, version)[:2]
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:33] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 769, in loadEx
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:35] <zen_amped> data, tid, ver = self._server.loadEx(oid, version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:37] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ServerStub.py", line 192, in loadEx
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:39] <zen_amped> return self.rpc.call("loadEx", oid, version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:41] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zrpc/connection.py", line 536, in call
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:43] <zen_amped> raise inst # error raised by server
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:45] <zen_amped> POSKeyError: 0x6025
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:00] <zen_amped> lol, I keep getting POSKeyErrors on a fresh CentOS RPM install of 2.1.2. I have tried reinstalling and upgrading to 1.2.3 and still the same issue
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:27] <zen_amped> I have been using google and searching through the fourms to no avail
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:41] <malbon> Make a bug report in trac
[15-Apr-2008 11:43:46] <zen_amped> will do
[15-Apr-2008 11:57:18] <nemo_> zeo not running ?
[15-Apr-2008 11:57:28] <nemo_> su - zenoss && zeoctl restart
[15-Apr-2008 12:01:11] <zen_amped> zeo is running, but I checked the log and it is throwing quite a few errors. I am going to see what I can find out. Thank nemo_ for pointing me in the right direction:-)
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:07] <nemo_> np, good luck !
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:22] <zen_amped> thx
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:30] <nemo_> did you restart zenoss as root ?
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:35] <nemo_> that can mess shit up
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:54] <nemo_> rm -f .zec ; rm -f *.pickle?
[15-Apr-2008 12:03:04] <nemo_> and restart
[15-Apr-2008 12:03:43] <zen_amped> I have restarted as root in the past, but recently I have been doing so as the zenoss user
[15-Apr-2008 13:48:58] <SEJeff> In the centos 5 rpm install of zenoss core, what is the default login password?
[15-Apr-2008 13:59:20] <nemo_> i could say RTFM, but its admin zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 13:59:44] <SEJeff> Well seeing as it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ, Install Guide, or Release notes, thanks...
[15-Apr-2008 14:00:02] <SEJeff> So could I say: WTFM? Write the F manual?
[15-Apr-2008 14:00:31] <DarkMats> It should be in the install guide as I look it up there every time =)
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:01] <SEJeff> The FAQ has the user/pass for the vmware image, but doesn't mention the rpm. Just noticed that
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:21] <DarkMats> Sorry. not admin guide. Install guide
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:21] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ isn't in the install guide
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:36] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL5 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 14:32:06] <pablo26> hi all
[15-Apr-2008 14:35:17] <pablo26> i'm getting this error: zenPerfsnmp hearbeat failure, but i executed it manually and the process is still running
[15-Apr-2008 14:41:57] <nemo_> cleared heartbeats ?
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:02] <pablo26> no, how do i do that?
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:19] <nemo_> read the docs my friend
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:25] <nemo_> sorry i dont work for zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:33] <b52laptop> hi
[15-Apr-2008 14:46:42] <pablo26> i should download the latest documentation, i think its not in the one i have
[15-Apr-2008 15:34:37] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m5b08dd62
[15-Apr-2008 15:34:49] <nemo_> sup with that, why do i only get an os sometimes ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:48:29] <nemo_> no one ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:49:56] <SEJeff> nemo_, When do you not get an os? And is it reproduceable when you can't?
[15-Apr-2008 15:50:06] <nemo_> yup
[15-Apr-2008 15:50:51] <SEJeff> What is the point of the unused p variable?
[15-Apr-2008 15:51:02] <SEJeff> And what kind of information is in the hosts you can't see the OS for?
[15-Apr-2008 15:51:40] <SEJeff> ZenOSS just grabs the snmp info for the productname. So the likely culprit is the snmpd running on that device
[15-Apr-2008 15:52:25] <nemo_> `theres no point to the unused var , comes from another script
[15-Apr-2008 15:53:19] <SEJeff> Try: snmpwalk -v1 -cYOURCOMMUNITYSTRING ip.of.device system
[15-Apr-2008 15:53:22] <nemo_> SEJeff, can i generate a list of properties / vars that ARE available ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:55:18] <SEJeff> nemo_, Yeah, first you need to look at what snmp output the device gives you. Then you need to figure out how ZenOSS interprets those OIDS
[15-Apr-2008 15:55:59] <nemo_> SEJeff, k thanks, so the code should do it , theres no prob there, must be data not collected by snmp correct?
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:03] <SEJeff> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr gives you the OS info
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:20] <SEJeff> nemo_, Yes or that the device isn't configured to output the sysDescr
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:35] <SEJeff> You can see if the code is the problem by running the snmpwalk command I gave you
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:51] <nemo_> yeh i know about snmpwalk for sure
[15-Apr-2008 15:57:09] <nemo_> i am just dealing with a few 1000 devices, working through expections, beginner py coder
[15-Apr-2008 15:57:39] <nemo_> Thanks for your help
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:19] <SEJeff> nemo_, Thanks for giving me the zenoss login earlier
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:30] <nemo_> ah it was you
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:35] <nemo_> karma
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:38] <nemo_>P
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:39] <SEJeff> yup
[15-Apr-2008 16:02:47] <nemo_> ok pleasant evening, shift is over here !
[15-Apr-2008 16:03:22] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im currently building an Ubuntu 6.10lts server for zenoss - im planning on doing core install -- any gotchas i need to look out for?
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:06] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You know that Ubuntu 8.04 LTS comes out in 9 days, right?
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:43] <W8TAH> yes
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:52] <W8TAH> i do -- i'll do a dist upgrade to it then if i need to
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:03] <W8TAH> however in 9 days i may not have a free day where i can work on this
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:08] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Just seems silly to build a new server and then upgrade it
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:11] <W8TAH> and i do today (one man it shop here)
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:22] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Alright, just letting you know.
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:28] <W8TAH> i appreciate that --
[15-Apr-2008 16:07:16] <W8TAH> in reality if i need to run on 6.10 for a few months its real stable and secure (ive got it elsewhere in the environment) and im not concerned - to be honest its a time thing
[15-Apr-2008 16:15:33] <malbon> yo folks, in zenprocess.py are there any thoughts on not hardcoding the mibs to collect the process table? HPUX has a completely different structure to host-resources mib?
[15-Apr-2008 16:21:59] <SEJeff> Patches are kindly accepted
[15-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <W8TAH> who do the install instructions for ubunut have you use the nightly snapshot instead of the stable build?
[15-Apr-2008 16:42:23] <W8TAH> thats in step 16
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:40] <W8TAH> i got this error -- what do i need to add to my system?
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:44] <W8TAH> http://www.pastebin.ca/986221
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:55] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Tim Holmes - post number 986221 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[15-Apr-2008 17:09:06] <W8TAH> it looks like a problem with building samba somehow
[15-Apr-2008 17:09:27] <W8TAH> neat bot trick
[15-Apr-2008 17:12:59] <e^ipi> "no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2", yet snmpwalk works
[15-Apr-2008 17:13:02] <e^ipi> help?
[15-Apr-2008 17:13:49] <`m3> if you trying to check it externally , 127.x.x.x wont work ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:00] <`m3> or is this the actual zenoss machine ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:21] <e^ipi> the zenoss machine has an ssh tunnel in to it on blah.2
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:39] <e^ipi> on that machine, on the console, snmpwalk dumps all the info it should be
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:43] <e^ipi> but zenoss can't see it
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:48] <`m3> ah well, thats a bit spec , its not zenoss, its your iptables forwarding
[15-Apr-2008 17:15:42] <e^ipi> nonsense. this works: snmpwalk -v 2c -c <my community> tcp:127.0.0.2:16100
[15-Apr-2008 17:17:57] <`m3> i dont work for zenoss, i use it , but your setup isnt quite standard , certainly not like mine
[15-Apr-2008 17:18:07] <`m3> if you want to work the hard way, its your call
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:27] <`m3> maybe zenoss works on the standard ports unless configured otherwise ..
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:45] <e^ipi> well, that's how we have our network set up here
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:50] <e^ipi> and cacti handles it plenty fine
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:56] <`m3> great
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:11] <e^ipi> there's no reason it /shouldn't/ work either
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:17] <e^ipi> it's odd, but not that odd
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:47] <e^ipi> i have the ports forwarding to 127.0.0.x because zenoss can't set up different devices based only onp orts
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:50] <e^ipi> *ports
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:58] <`m3> understood
[15-Apr-2008 17:22:44] <`m3> start grepping for 161 and 162 is my advice
[15-Apr-2008 17:25:10] <`m3> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004984.html
[15-Apr-2008 17:26:11] <`m3> theres a solution, i can help you with a dmd script to modify things
[15-Apr-2008 17:26:39] <`m3> if you get your head around it, why not write a patch ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:34:52] <SEJeff> So I'd like to create a new device class to change the monitoring interval for snmp traffic
[15-Apr-2008 17:35:20] <SEJeff> Is it possible to have ZenOSS only run the cthernetCsmacd_64 on a specific device class?
[15-Apr-2008 17:36:41] <`m3> set a new template for that class ? ( i havent touched templates yet )
[15-Apr-2008 17:36:46] <`m3> but should be fine
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:26] <W8TAH> hi folks - second build error - pleaes help
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:28] <W8TAH> http://www.pastebin.ca/986262
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:37] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Tim Holmes (W8TAH) - post number 986262 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[15-Apr-2008 17:39:24] <`m3> make[2]: swig: Command not found ? thats my first guess
[15-Apr-2008 17:39:56] <W8TAH> ya -im seeing that too - im not a programmer -- im just tryin to use the package -- who or what is swig? any ideas?
[15-Apr-2008 17:40:41] <W8TAH> this is the SVN Shot per the install instructions - -im very tempted to grab the 2.1.3 package from the downloads - untar it and try from that -- im a bit at a loss to why they are using svn snapshots for stable builds
[15-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <SEJeff> `m3, Well I'd like to use an existing template, but change the polling interval
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:19] <`m3> no idea, on a steep learning curve too, i used rpms , lifes too short ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:41] <`m3> SEJeff, should all be a zproperty of the class, then the device
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:45] <SEJeff> W8TAH, swig creates bindings from languages to C / C++
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:58] <SEJeff> W8TAH, sudo apt-get install swig will fix it likely
[15-Apr-2008 17:42:03] <W8TAH> ahh - SWEET - thanks
[15-Apr-2008 17:42:09] <SEJeff> W8TAH, apt-cache show swig to see what it is
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:04] <W8TAH> thanks
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:13] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Did that do it for you?
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:16] <W8TAH> its running the build again be about 20 mins till we know
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:27] <W8TAH> swig installed no problem
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:36] <W8TAH> i take it that is a package that should be in build essential and isnt?
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:50] <SEJeff> W8TAH, No, it is a dependency of building zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:55] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:05] <W8TAH> so its normal to hit a few of these in the install process?
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:08] <SEJeff> W8TAH, And should be in the prerequisites for installing ZenOSS on Ubuntu / Debian if it isn't
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:18] <W8TAH> ahhhh -- got ya
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:20] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Well are you using a wiki page on installing it?
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:36] <SEJeff> W8TAH, If so, please update it to add swig as one of the packages to install first
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:42] <W8TAH> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-ubuntu-6.10/
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:45] <W8TAH> thats the page im using
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:56] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on Ubuntu 6.10 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:36] <SEJeff> Thats not in the wiki
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:38] <W8TAH> im not a wiki user so i cant update
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:41] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:51] <W8TAH> i just followed the links from the download page
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:59] <SEJeff> W8TAH, If you have a few minutes, can you file a bug against that page so someone that actually works at ZenOSS can fix it?
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:18] <W8TAH> is that allowed to someone not buying support?
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:19] <`m3> good call
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:24] <`m3> yes
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:27] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:30] <`m3> its the whole idea
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:42] <`m3> you buy support or be part of the community
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:43] <W8TAH> there was a previous bug too - -it needs automake as well as swig
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:48] <`m3> or both ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:04] <W8TAH> well-- i have to be budget zero on this project so i guess im community -- LOL
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:17] <`m3> fair play, my company bought support
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:23] <`m3> its been useful
[15-Apr-2008 17:49:18] <SEJeff> `m3, We are going to buy the commercial version after this evaluation is over
[15-Apr-2008 17:49:21] <`m3> tho only called them once
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:08] <`m3> SEJeff, worth it in a pro enviroment, sounds like yours is prob in the category
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:49] <`m3> W8TAH, community is where its at imho
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:50] <W8TAH> part of my problem also is the commercial support a has a 50 device lower limit at 66 bux per -- ive got 8 switches and about 10 servers or so
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:00] <W8TAH> ya - im a big fan of community stuff
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:06] <SEJeff> `m3, Well we want 1 second polling of switch interface stats
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:30] <`m3> SEJeff, its def possible, wether its a zproperty or in a perf template, not sure
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:34] <SEJeff> `m3, Would "zCommandCycleTime" in the device class zproperties be the right setting to change?
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:42] <`m3> i favour perf template too now i think about it
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:48] <`m3> yes i think so
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:59] <`m3> poke and hope dude
[15-Apr-2008 17:52:16] <`m3> your not a zenadmin till you trashed it and got out ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:53:54] <SEJeff> `m3, Is there anything special that needs to be done to assign an existing template to a device class?
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:01] <SEJeff> Before remodelling the device
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:16] <`m3> dont think so, it might break old rrd's
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:20] <`m3> not sure
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:34] <`m3> rrd's == graphs
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:39] <SEJeff> `m3, Well do all templates apply to all devices bc that seems silly
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:46] <SEJeff> `m3, Right, this is for testing so no worries there
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:05] <`m3> SEJeff, i am not logged into work atm , i am at home
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:21] <`m3> our vpn, passwd , rsa key etc is a suitable deterent
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:32] <SEJeff> `m3, Alright now worries. Key fobs are a pain to deal with
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:33] <`m3> cant look around my system
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:57] <`m3> its more i dont lke surfing porn and logging into a pretty tight enviroment ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:01] <`m3> on the same pc
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:26] <SEJeff> `m3, So route your dns through your own box and then only route certain traffic through vpn. It can be done but no worries
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:46] <`m3> I work 12 hrs a day , i dont miss it when i am not there ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:59] <W8TAH> lol - ya
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:00] <W8TAH> no doubt
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:02] <`m3> i work in finace, we got through the front door or not at all ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:08] <`m3> go*
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:11] <SEJeff> `m3, me too
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:17] <`m3> i guessed SEJeff
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:20] <SEJeff> `m3, I work for a trading company
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:24] <SEJeff> `m3, how?
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:26] <`m3> no other places are so anal
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:27] <`m3>
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:36] <`m3> network policies, weird setups
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:45] <W8TAH> guess im the lucky one here-- im in a private elementary / middle school - - one man it shop
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:48] <W8TAH> not much politics
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:53] <`m3> SEJeff, i wont ask which one , we might not be supposed to help each other ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:18] <SEJeff> Do you do hedge fund trading? If so you are the devil
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:20] <`m3> W8TAH, well spotted i hate the politics, love the challenges tho
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:35] <`m3> SEJeff, i dont know much about trading, just do unix
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:47] <SEJeff> Financial is fantastic if only because of the challenges it gives us systems guys
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:49] <`m3> but probably its the one you think
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:52] <W8TAH> ya - i hear u
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:02] <`m3> nods ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:17] <W8TAH> the day to day crap drives me nuts -- i enjoy stuff like this
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:31] <W8TAH> i think we are past that break point
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:33] <`m3> W8TAH, maybe your rich already ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:36] <`m3>
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:47] <`m3> i work for money, most ppl have to just like me
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:52] <W8TAH> NO
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:05] <W8TAH> tuition supported church affiliated school
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:10] <W8TAH> definatly NOT rich
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:35] <`m3> rich isnt always financial, you got internet access and a place to stay, thats great
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:41] <`m3> i pay a few 1000 a month for that ;p
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:48] <W8TAH> i hear ya -
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:52] <W8TAH> i have both
[15-Apr-2008 18:01:50] <SEJeff> `m3, is in NY /me thinks
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:13] <`m3> no but my employer is
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:22] <`m3> i am euro based, so is my employer
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:29] <SEJeff> gotcha
[15-Apr-2008 18:06:29] <W8TAH> back in 20 mins or so - - its building again -- wrong db password -- DOH
[15-Apr-2008 18:27:55] <cyberfr0g> where do you change the default zSnmpCommunity string?
[15-Apr-2008 18:28:33] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, You should be able to do it under /Devices/zProperties if you want to change everything
[15-Apr-2008 18:29:26] <cyberfr0g> yay!
[15-Apr-2008 18:29:32] <cyberfr0g> lol, i knew i was in here somewhere
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:16] <cyberfr0g> now, if i want to do a discovery of say windows servers how would that be different then just running zendisc run --net whatever
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:22] <`m3> cyberfr0g, not sure how many machines you got, but you can set all these thing per class too
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:48] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, Because running zendisc won't save the community string
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:59] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, But either way should work
[15-Apr-2008 18:31:47] <idea4gud> does HttpMonitor zenpack is already present in zenoss 2.1.3
[15-Apr-2008 18:32:12] <idea4gud> bcz i did zenpack run --install HttpMonitor.zip as root
[15-Apr-2008 18:32:37] <idea4gud> it said Object already existing
[15-Apr-2008 18:35:32] <`m3> cyberfr0g, you can set an array of communties
[15-Apr-2008 18:38:45] <cyberfr0g> if i've already done a discovery using public community string and now i want to do another discovery with the real community string do i have to clear anything out or will it just update the original entry?
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:13] <W8TAH> install completed -- sorry i was longer than 20 mins
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:35] <SEJeff> There is a zProperty for a list of snmp communities
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:47] <SEJeff> It will cycle through all of them
[15-Apr-2008 18:43:41] <b52laptop> hi
[15-Apr-2008 18:44:45] <cyberfr0g> what about windows boxes or linux boxes? i've had autodiscovery on for awhile but so far it's only found one machine. do i have to enable something to look for something other then snmp enabled devices?
[15-Apr-2008 18:45:45] <W8TAH> SEJeff, ive completed my install and posted the bugs you requested
[15-Apr-2008 18:45:56] <SEJeff> Cool thanks!
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:18] <W8TAH> np
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:19] <`m3> good call guys , worthy ;p
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:35] <W8TAH> i hope so - i get tired of gettin told my bugs r stupid
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:06] <`m3> cyberfr0g, call them with command line wget http://yourzenoss:8080/dmd etc
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:22] <`m3> google on it for the exact syntax
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:44] <__adytum-bot__> `m3: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:44] <`m3> add somethign like discoveryProto=none on the end for ping only
[15-Apr-2008 18:58:57] <W8TAH> im on the last step - - updating the daemon starts -- on ubunutu -- the command from the help is update-rc.d zenoss 95 -- and i keep getting -- update-rc.d error: unexpected runlevel [0-9S] did you forget "."?
[15-Apr-2008 18:59:03] <W8TAH> not sure what to do here
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:26] <SEJeff> update-rc.d zenoss 23
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:28] <SEJeff> Does that work?
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:46] <W8TAH> no
[15-Apr-2008 19:06:22] <`m3> rc.3 ?
[15-Apr-2008 19:06:37] <W8TAH> update-rc.3 zenoss 23?
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:04] <`m3> i dont use debian, guessing prob shows ;p
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:20] <W8TAH> im not familiar with this part of it yet - on gentoo i could do it -- but not here --
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:35] <W8TAH> i'll figure it out - good news is -- zenoss is up and running
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:54] <W8TAH> and i can start configuring devices as soon as i put the server in the rack (and send the munchkins home)
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:21] <W8TAH> back in a bit
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:26] <W8TAH> tanks for the help
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:27] <magnachef> w8tah: are you using debian? did you see http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:33] <W8TAH> ubuntu
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:39] <W8TAH> based on debian
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:40] <magnachef> ahhh, ok, nm
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:42] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:53] <W8TAH> thanks again folks
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[15-Apr-2008 20:28:28] <W8TAH> hi folks - im back - busily adding devices
[15-Apr-2008 22:11:54] <garnica> hi people, I'm running Zenoss 2.1.3, and looking at the event console, where I can see 65 events: "localhost.localdomain zenperfsnmp heartbeat failure" any idea of what's going on ??
[15-Apr-2008 22:20:42] <garnica> "localhost.localdomain zenperfsnmp heartbeat failure" on my Zenoss server..... what's this meaning ??
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[16-Apr-2008 01:38:04] <e^ipi> any way to force zenoss to use TCP instead of UDP?
[16-Apr-2008 01:55:33] <npmccallum> anyone know if it is possible to set the Manufacturer in a collector plugin
[16-Apr-2008 01:55:49] <npmccallum> the setProductKey method seems to not allow this...
[16-Apr-2008 01:56:24] <npmccallum> malbon: ^
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:24] <Mark`> is there anyway to have zenhub listen on a specific ip address
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:31] <Mark`> i.e. for ports 8081 and 8789
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:48] <Mark`> i looked through the python even, if there something i can put in zenhub.conf?
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[16-Apr-2008 05:42:25] <Mark`> [19:47] <Mark`> is there anyway to have zenhub listen on a specific ip address
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:26] <Mark`> [19:47] <Mark`> i.e. for ports 8081 and 8789
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:39] <Mark`> i want to have it totally on a private interface
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:51] <Mark`> would be nice not to have to iptables it
[16-Apr-2008 09:33:44] <b52laptop> morning
[16-Apr-2008 09:36:27] <nemo__> yes it is ;/
[16-Apr-2008 09:36:46] <b52laptop> :d
[16-Apr-2008 12:02:19] <W8TAH> Good morning everyone -- for some reason when i click on my device list -- it goes to the loading screen and stays there -- never loads the device list - any ideas?
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:14] <nemo__> zenoss status
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:27] <nemo__> anyone here any good with python regex's
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:33] <nemo__> baking my noodle here ;/
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:46] <nemo__> r".*[0-9:]{8}\s(?P<component>\s).*\s(?P<summary>.*)"
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:55] <nemo__> from the syslog part of zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:13:18] <nemo__> W8TAH, try zenoss status, see if something isnt running
[16-Apr-2008 12:13:43] <W8TAH> when i type zenoss status on my sever it returns command not found
[16-Apr-2008 12:14:11] <W8TAH> are you speaking of the init command?
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:40] <nemo__> as the zenoss user
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:42] <nemo__> ?
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:47] <W8TAH> hang on
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:48] <nemo__> if so , somethings wrong
[16-Apr-2008 12:16:05] <W8TAH> i was logged in as my user - lemme check
[16-Apr-2008 12:17:13] <W8TAH> i really shouldnt type commands till i wake up --
[16-Apr-2008 12:17:20] <nemo__>
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:08] <W8TAH> im gonna reboot that bugger adn solve the problem
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:10] <W8TAH> LOL
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:12] <W8TAH> back in a few
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:57] <nemo__> slow down tiget
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:59] <nemo__> tiger
[16-Apr-2008 12:19:10] <nemo__> just restart the right services with the right user
[16-Apr-2008 12:19:20] <nemo__> reboots are almost never neccesary, and kittens die !
[16-Apr-2008 12:20:04] <nemo__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:God-kills-kitten.jpg
[16-Apr-2008 12:30:50] <W8TAH> the problem was due to my clumsyness the system was minimally responsive
[16-Apr-2008 12:31:26] <W8TAH> zeoctl not running
[16-Apr-2008 12:31:33] <W8TAH> zopectl not running
[16-Apr-2008 12:35:00] <W8TAH> i tried starting those 2 and everything else shut down
[16-Apr-2008 12:35:02] <W8TAH>
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:03] <SEJeff> W8TAH, su - zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:09] <SEJeff> zenoss restart
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:16] <W8TAH> ok - done
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:17] <SEJeff> Then everything should be running properly
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:31] <W8TAH> ok - looks like it is
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:35] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:36] <mzolisi> Hi
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:43] <mzolisi> Hi SEJeff
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:48] <SEJeff> Check it in the webui via "Settings ---> Daemons"
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:58] <SEJeff> hi
[16-Apr-2008 12:43:15] <W8TAH> cool
[16-Apr-2008 12:43:44] <mzolisi> Can you please help me? Im new to Zenoss and want to monitor the availability of Interfaces on a router using SNMP but am not sure how
[16-Apr-2008 12:44:20] <SEJeff> mzolisi, Click Add Device and type in the hostame or ip of the router. You might also have to put in the community string for that device
[16-Apr-2008 12:44:30] <SEJeff> Zenoss will scan it and add everything in for you
[16-Apr-2008 12:46:25] <mzolisi> Thanks
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:00] <mzolisi> I just checked now , They're all under the OS tab on the device
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:08] <mzolisi> Now to test....
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:42] <SEJeff> mzolisi, It works well. I've got it doing snmp polling for interface stats every second. A pain to do, but works well so far
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:32] <W8TAH> ok - all my services are running now, but when i click the device list, it goes to the screen with the loading note in the middle and stays there - -what do i try next?
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:54] <nemo__> SEJeff, any ideas on that syslog matching regex ?
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:58] <SEJeff> Look at how your server is performing
[16-Apr-2008 12:50:01] <nemo__> python regex is killing me
[16-Apr-2008 12:50:28] <SEJeff> nemo__, ZenOSS does all of the regexp in python which is slow compared to something like perl
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:00] <SEJeff> nemo__, My suggestion would actually be to use something like rsyslog or syslog-ng and use them for filtering the syslog traffic. Send stuff from there to ZenOSS
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:16] <nemo__> the syslog bit isnt an issue
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:26] <W8TAH> SEJeff, htop reports im running between .5 and 1% utilization on both processors and about 50% memory useage - no swap useage
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:43] <nemo__> its the parsing of it, using the regex's listed in /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:44] <SEJeff> W8TAH, How much ram is in that server?
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:50] <W8TAH> i gig
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:53] <W8TAH> 1 gig
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:55] <SEJeff> nemo__, Well what about it?
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:56] <nemo__> lines starting r"expr"
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:08] <nemo__> where expr is a regex
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:14] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Thats pretty low for a ZenOSS server. They suggested 2GB for me
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:29] <nemo__> its the (?P grouping thats causing me problems
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:31] <SEJeff> nemo__, Let me crack open that code
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:32] <W8TAH> ok - i can do that -- lemme go snap some more into it
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:37] <SEJeff> The greedy matching
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:39] <W8TAH> back in a flash
[16-Apr-2008 12:53:06] <SEJeff> nemo__, ok, which one?
[16-Apr-2008 12:53:20] <SEJeff> nemo__, What version of zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:00] <nemo__> r".*[0-9:]{8}\s(?P<component>\s).*\s(?P<summary>.*)"
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:00] <nemo__> Apr 3 23:09:14 HOSTNAME 0949HOSTNAME PRO 0 Appl_
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:05] <nemo__> 2.1.3
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:18] <SEJeff> nemo__, You added that yourself?
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:22] <nemo__> yeh
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:35] <nemo__> 2nd line is an example of what i am trying to match
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:50] <nemo__> events with no components are useless in zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:55:41] <SEJeff> Sorry nemo, haven't got into using ZenOSS that much just yet
[16-Apr-2008 12:57:28] <nemo__> nps thanks for having a look
[16-Apr-2008 13:03:42] <W8TAH> SEJeff, htop now reports between .1 and .8 useage on the procs and 42/2010mb used -no swap useage
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:21] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Sounds good. Do you have it monitoring your devices / servers?
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:32] <W8TAH> not all of them but yes
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:36] <W8TAH> im still configuring
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:49] <W8TAH> the device list still does no appear when requested
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:52] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Have it scan your network and find them all for you
[16-Apr-2008 13:05:20] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You might also install dstat while you're at it. It is really nice to see whats going on
[16-Apr-2008 13:05:20] <W8TAH> uhh - ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:02] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You can apt-get install it and here is the page: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dstat/
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:10] <W8TAH> dstat is now installed
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:12] <adytum-bot> Title: DAG: Dstat: Versatile resource statistics tool (at dag.wieers.com)
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:15] <Daern> I would like a bit more detail on my graphs, is there a simple way within zenoss to globally set the polling and graphing period to once/minute instead of just taking the 5 min average? (My network is extremely under-utilized so the traffic overhead is no biggie)
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:27] <SEJeff> Daern, Yes I've done it
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:33] <nemo__> zproperty on the class
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:41] <SEJeff> nemo__, No it isn't that simple
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:57] <nemo__> ah you looked into it detail SEJeff ?
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:27] <SEJeff> nemo__, Well the class notes from the ZenOSS class show you how to do it
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:40] <SEJeff> nemo__, I was doing it wrong earlier and properly followed the instructions to get it working
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:47] <nemo__> kool
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:20] <Daern> I appreciate any info on it. I was assuming that I would have to modify the global templates for the graphs so that the OID's reflected a smaller window than a 5 min average
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:34] <SEJeff> Daern, How strong are you in 'nix?
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:39] <Daern> but I wasn't quite sure what all I needed to modify to make sure
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:53] <Daern> I'm probably intermediate level
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:04] <Daern> not a developer but far from a n00b.
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:08] <SEJeff> Daern, ok so enough to copy around files and edit them, right?
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:33] <SEJeff> Daern, Ok bear with me to type the instructions from this manual. It worked for me, ok?
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:34] <Daern> yes.
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:49] <SEJeff> su - zenoss and then cd $ZENHOME/bin
[16-Apr-2008 13:10:10] <SEJeff> cp zenperfsnmp highperfsnmp
[16-Apr-2008 13:11:05] <SEJeff> cd into $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD and copy zenperfsnmp.py to highperfsnmp.py
[16-Apr-2008 13:11:57] <SEJeff> sed -i 's/zenperfsnmp/highperfsnmp/g' highperfsnmp.py
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:10] <SEJeff> sed -i 's/zenperfsnmp/highperfsnmp/g' $ZENHOME/bin/highperfsnmp
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:29] <SEJeff> cd $ZENHOME/etc and copy zenpersnmp.conf to highperfsnmp.conf
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:32] <W8TAH> that auto device discovery is just plain COOL
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:43] <nemo__> W8TAH, i dont like it !
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:48] <nemo__> finds too much
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:50] <W8TAH> oh
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:56] <SEJeff> Modify highperfsnmp.conf and change localhost to localhost2
[16-Apr-2008 13:13:16] <SEJeff> Daern, Thats the hard part, let me know when you've got that done or if you have any questions
[16-Apr-2008 13:18:00] <Daern> SEJeff, alright, I've just change the monitor to localhost2 in the highperfsnmp.conf file
[16-Apr-2008 13:22:13] <SEJeff> Daern, From the web ui, click Monitors towards the bottom left
[16-Apr-2008 13:22:48] <SEJeff> Daern, Add a new monitor named localhost2. Click the edit tab and change the cycle time to 60 seconds
[16-Apr-2008 13:23:15] <SEJeff> Almost done
[16-Apr-2008 13:24:13] <Daern> ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:24:40] <SEJeff> So now there are 2 ways you can add devices to a different polling interval...
[16-Apr-2008 13:25:09] <SEJeff> Create a new device class and set the perf monitor on that device class to localhost2, or do it on a per device basis. Which would you prefer?
[16-Apr-2008 13:25:57] <Daern> hmm... which would be faster for existing devices within Zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 13:26:33] <SEJeff> Daern, Well are all of those devices in the same device class?
[16-Apr-2008 13:26:45] <SEJeff> As in /Devices/Network/Cisco or something like that
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:33] <Daern> I'll probably need to do it in a per-device basis because my devices are scattered across most of the classes
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:50] <SEJeff> Daern, just a sec
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:55] <Daern> the only thing I don't have populated is the KVM default class
[16-Apr-2008 13:30:44] <SEJeff> Daern, The coolest thing about ZenOSS is zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:31:17] <SEJeff> Daern, I'm really new to it, but would you like a quick example? Courtesy of a script from nemo?
[16-Apr-2008 13:32:39] <Daern> sure! any info I can get will only help me in the future.
[16-Apr-2008 13:32:50] <SEJeff> su - zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:05] <SEJeff> zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:13] <SEJeff> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:20] <SEJeff> device_name=d.getDeviceName()
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:31] <SEJeff> device_os=d.os.getProductName()
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:37] <SEJeff> print "Hostname: %s" % device_name
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:42] <SEJeff> print "OS: %s" % device_os
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:42] <SEJeff> print "----"
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:56] <SEJeff> That formatting was messed up in the copy / paste
[16-Apr-2008 13:34:44] <Daern> it's ok, it went through fine when I copied it over into notepad
[16-Apr-2008 13:35:03] <SEJeff> Daern, Did that work?
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:11] <W8TAH> back in a bit - while its discovering itself im gonna go take care of a few things
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:25] <SEJeff> You should be able to change the perf monitor to localhost2 for everything you want using zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:39] <SEJeff> You could also do it manually if it isn't a lot of servers
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:46] <SEJeff> Lets do 1 manually so you know how to do it
[16-Apr-2008 13:38:04] <Daern> ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:02] <SEJeff> Daern, Click one one of your devices from the Device List, then Edit --> Performance Monitor --> localhost2
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:21] <SEJeff> The very last thing to do is to actually start your new highperfsnmp daemon
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:32] <SEJeff> as user zenoss, cd to $ZENHOME/bin
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:05] <SEJeff> and do ./highperfsnmp start. You can do something like ./highperfsnmp run -v10 to run it once in the foreground using debug mode
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:45] <SEJeff> You can verify it is working every minute with: "tcpdump -n src port 161"
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:55] <SEJeff> Thats pretty much all there is to it
[16-Apr-2008 13:44:58] <Daern> sweet
[16-Apr-2008 13:45:26] <SEJeff> Make sure the daemon you copied is running though. If you don't, it won't collect anything
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:08] <Daern> and with the graphed data, the OID associated is for 5 min averages on the default template, right? Should I change that for a 1 min average (or some other standard measurement on the MIBs) to get data w/ a smaller window (and a little more telling of spikes in traffic)
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:37] <SEJeff> Daern, Yes. You will have to delete and let zenoss recreate the rrd files
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:53] <SEJeff> They are under $ZENHOME/perf/$hostname
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:05] <Daern> I did a "ps aux | grep highperf" and it shows the highperfsnmp.py in use
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:28] <SEJeff> Daern, Correct. Because you did $ZENHOME/bin/highperfsnmp start
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:37] <Daern> sweet
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:54] <SEJeff> If you really want to make sure it is working, you could do: zenperfsnmp stop
[16-Apr-2008 13:49:06] <SEJeff> And then run tcpdump to verify your collector is working
[16-Apr-2008 13:49:31] <SEJeff> Make sense?
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:15] <W8TAH> ok im back
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:36] <W8TAH> the auto discovery finished - -ive added memory etc and all my daemons are running -but my device list still wont show up --
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:41] <W8TAH> any other ideas?
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:46] <Daern> yes, very much so. Thank you for your assistance SEJeff!
[16-Apr-2008 13:54:12] <Daern> I was having problems getting TCPDUMP to work and thenrealized I was in as the zenoss user
[16-Apr-2008 13:54:15] <SEJeff> Daern, No problem. It took me the whole day yesterday figuring this out myself. And that was with the ZenOSS course material!
[16-Apr-2008 13:55:00] <SEJeff> Daern, It could certainly be a more intuitive process
[16-Apr-2008 13:57:43] <Daern> lol I hear you. I've been working with this system for a few weeks now and I've been getting things a bit more "intuitive" for me. I've been able to integrate the PHP Weathermap in with it, and it's been a bit of a challenge because it does not like spaces in the filenames
[16-Apr-2008 13:58:17] <SEJeff> Daern, Oh... how? We would love to see that here
[16-Apr-2008 13:58:35] <SEJeff> Daern, We were also looking into ways to integrate smokeping with zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 13:59:12] <Daern> ... a long, arduous process. I'm not a developer so I butcher other people's scripts to make it do what I need. (or just write stuff slowly by hand)
[16-Apr-2008 13:59:42] <SEJeff> ha. Care to point in the right direction? And what you did to get it working?
[16-Apr-2008 14:00:40] <mzolisi> Hi again SEJeff
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:14] <SEJeff> mzolisi, You can just ask a question if you have one. Not that I am an expert or anything
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:39] <mzolisi> How do you manage interfaces for UP/DOWN status. Is there a pre-defined method or do you build it yourself
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:51] <SEJeff> Don't know
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:20] <mzolisi> M'kay, back to ze draving bord
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:51] <Daern> I setup php weather map & apache, had to install the php-gd packages, created a devices directory withing the weathermap's folder and created a directory for each device within that folder (which for me was only about 10), then I went into each device folder and created symbolic links to devices interfaces in the zenoss directory, used a script to remove all spaces from the symbolic links, then completed the config for weathermap. Then I created a script to g
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:51] <Daern> s every 5 minutes so that I could use the overlib functions. So if you move the mouse over each link it gives you the last 24 hours of graph data
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:22] <Daern> a lot of work that probably could have been automated... I just don't know enough about scripting/programming to automate that much.
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:34] <Daern> that's the curse of starting in windows..
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:59] <SEJeff> Daern, Nah. My first pc was a PC Jr running Dos 5 and I'm a Sr Linux Admin
[16-Apr-2008 14:05:38] <SEJeff> Daern, So you are using ZenOSS rrds with weathermap via symlinks?
[16-Apr-2008 14:06:02] cgibbons__ is now known as cgibbons
[16-Apr-2008 14:06:52] <Daern> This zenoss box (other than our VMWare ESX systesm) is the only linux box in our environment. We needed something and didn't have the cash in the budget for high-dollar monitoring suites, so enter zenoss.
[16-Apr-2008 14:07:00] <Daern> yup, and it seems to work really well.
[16-Apr-2008 14:07:21] <W8TAH> im hitting a snag on how to move machines out of the discovreed class into the appropriate places like server or workstation
[16-Apr-2008 14:09:14] <Daern> I'm still learning most of the systems/software associated with zenOSS & PHP Weathermap, so there are some things I need to work on but it's really nice. And it impressed the heck out of my superiors. They found out we were using a whopping 1% of our network backbone, but about 40% of our T3 after all was said and done.
[16-Apr-2008 14:09:35] <Daern> It will really help when we start rolling out VoIP and wireless
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:23] <cgibbons> what kind of snag, w8tah?
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:37] <W8TAH> i cant figure out how to move them to a different class
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:50] <W8TAH> im probably being dumb -- but im not seeing it in the ui or the maual
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:22] <W8TAH> arrggg
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:24] <W8TAH> i found it
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:28] <W8TAH> nm - sorry folks
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:39] <SEJeff> W8TAH, The ZenOSS ui is pretty, but not always intuitive
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:51] <W8TAH> ya - i missed the drop down menu totally
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:51] <cgibbons> I bet that drop-down menu button was the culprit there; it doesn't look like a button to me
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:57] <W8TAH> yup
[16-Apr-2008 14:13:09] <Daern> that was a problem for me when I first looked at it. It honestly took me a couple days of working with it before I realized how good of a product it really is.
[16-Apr-2008 14:15:49] <cgibbons> some of us newbies @ Zenoss here had the same issue so I expect we'll try and fix that some-point soon so that it is more intuitive
[16-Apr-2008 14:21:14] <Daern> I'm fine now. ZenOSS has been a blessing for us, we found out the guy before me had our entire network routing through a little 2620, so the thing would hit 100% utilization and dropped massive amounts of packets during production hours. THey though it was the ISP's fault when it was actually the previous Network Analyst who set everything up with a massive bottleneck
[16-Apr-2008 14:33:22] <SEJeff> cgibbons, Do you work @ zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 14:40:17] <npmccallum> SEJeff: yo!
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:08] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Hey hey
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:31] <SEJeff> Daern, Thats crazy. But a good thing to fix
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:37] <cgibbons> yeah, jeff. my 2nd week
[16-Apr-2008 14:42:25] <SEJeff> cgibbons, Cool. Push eric to change the contributor agreement to be a joint copyright assignment like sun. The current one isn't that great
[16-Apr-2008 14:43:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, ZenOSS and a properly tweaked server hum. Even when doing stupid amounts of snmp requests
[16-Apr-2008 14:44:41] <W8TAH> ok - got a question - -im putting togehter a new device class /workstation for the sub classes -- is it better to go by funciton (teachers vs students) or by hardware type (model)
[16-Apr-2008 14:46:40] <SEJeff> W8TAH, That depends on how you want to manage it. If you will be monitoring the devices differently for teacher vs students break them up
[16-Apr-2008 14:46:48] <W8TAH> ok
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:03] <SEJeff> W8TAH, But they all are the same type of devices so does it make sense to monitor teachers computers differently than students?
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:38] <W8TAH> not really -- i think i'll divide them by hardware model (i have 5)
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:43] <W8TAH> that seems to make more sense
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <W8TAH> is there a db refrsh that i need to do to get my newly created classes to show up on the device list page so i can move to them?
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:08] <W8TAH> shoot - im late
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:10] <W8TAH> back later
[16-Apr-2008 14:56:34] <npmccallum> SEJeff: how many devices are you monitoring?
[16-Apr-2008 15:03:46] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Well we are just benchmarking zenoss. Doing about 50 very active cisco switches with 1 second polling
[16-Apr-2008 15:04:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Still reading more on rrdtool to get the commands right for the rrd files
[16-Apr-2008 15:04:57] <Daern> SEJeff, if you get it right then let me know.
[16-Apr-2008 15:05:04] <SEJeff> Daern, Will do
[16-Apr-2008 15:11:22] <W8TAH> back - sorry abuot that -- and i found my solution
[16-Apr-2008 15:14:56] <SEJeff> npmccallum, How about you?
[16-Apr-2008 15:15:37] <npmccallum> SEJeff: we've tested with about 150 devices so far
[16-Apr-2008 15:15:59] <npmccallum> We're buying a beefy IBM x3650 to deploy
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:12] <SEJeff> npmccallum, What kind of stats?
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:43] <npmccallum> 2xquad-core @ 3GHz, 8GB, 6x300GB 15k SAS - RAID 10
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:46] <SEJeff> npmccallum, We got an HPDL380 with 12G ram, dual quad core 3.16GHZ cpus, and 8 drives
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:55] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Pretty comparable
[16-Apr-2008 15:17:19] <SEJeff> Actually, we took 4GB that comes with the HP out so only 8GB in ours also
[16-Apr-2008 15:17:46] <SEJeff> Put /opt/zenoss and /opt/zenoss/perf on different volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:18:35] <SEJeff> ^Huge win
[16-Apr-2008 15:18:48] <npmccallum> SEJeff: really!? just for seek thrashing?
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:00] <SEJeff> npmccallum, rrdtool thrashes the disk
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:06] <npmccallum> k
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, It just creates static files and punches holes randomly in them. So it is lots of small random IO
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:22] <nemo__> npmccallum, were using 3650's too for the zenoss machine
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:41] <npmccallum> So, with only 6 disks, what is recommended?
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:53] <SEJeff> npmccallum, And for the perf volume, you might try reiserfs (although ext3 works fine)
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:01] <npmccallum> mirror for / and raid 10 for /opt/zenoss/perf?
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:02] <nemo__> yeh 3 groups of raid1
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:10] <nemo__> thats what we are using , 3 controllers
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:11] <SEJeff> Well Zenoss gave us a suggested partiton layout, but it was silly
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:33] <SEJeff> Well I would do: /, /opt/zenoss, and /opt/zenoss/perf on different volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:39] <SEJeff> Make a 2 disk mirror for /
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:03] <SEJeff> And use the rest for a big raid 10. Split those up into volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:23] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Would you like me to forward the specs zenoss corporate suggested?
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:25] <npmccallum> Why not just one big RAID10 then?
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:29] <npmccallum> SEJeff: sure
[16-Apr-2008 15:22:44] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Because raid0 sucks for failures and raid10 can support >2 disk failure if they are the done right
[16-Apr-2008 15:23:26] <SEJeff> npmccallum, But if you can easily rebuild the machine and disks aren't an issue, raid0 would work
[16-Apr-2008 15:24:02] <SEJeff> Raid0 might make sense for the perf data, but would you want to do that for your whole OS?
[16-Apr-2008 15:24:18] <SEJeff> The Data.fs file is the zope db. You don't want to lose that
[16-Apr-2008 15:31:24] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Check your inbox
[16-Apr-2008 15:35:57] <SEJeff> npmccallum, btrfs git tree just got raid 10 support. It is going to be the Linux ZFS
[16-Apr-2008 15:40:41] <npmccallum> SEJeff: wow
[16-Apr-2008 15:41:34] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Development is moving along according to the roadmap if you read the git logs or rss feed
[16-Apr-2008 15:54:29] <npmccallum> SEJeff: where is the roadmap?
[16-Apr-2008 15:57:52] <SEJeff> http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Development_timeline
[16-Apr-2008 15:58:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Development timeline - btrfs Wiki (at btrfs.wiki.kernel.org)
[16-Apr-2008 16:27:11] <npmccallum> SEJeff: is that real RAID 10, or just concatenated RAID1s?
[16-Apr-2008 16:28:37] <SEJeff> Controller level real raid 10
[16-Apr-2008 16:30:00] <SEJeff> Wait a minute. Do you mean in btrfs?
[16-Apr-2008 16:30:45] <SEJeff> http://www.kernel.org/hg/index.cgi/btrfs/kernel-unstable/rev/f70f27e4c162
[16-Apr-2008 16:51:47] <W8TAH> im lookin at the section in the manual about monitoriing topology with zenping -- it says use the about page, but i cannot find the about page to choose the options off of
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:20] <W8TAH> im a bit confused -- i have some switches configured before i ran the auto discover routine. They were showing up in the network map -- after the autodiscover, they dont
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:33] <W8TAH> any idea what happened?
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:46] <W8TAH> (or more importantly how to get them back?
[16-Apr-2008 17:25:12] <cgibbons> hey look, it is the Cote
[16-Apr-2008 17:25:49] <cote> cgibbons: hello.
[16-Apr-2008 17:26:19] <W8TAH> can someone tell me where in the manual to look for instructions on clearing the entire database and starting over?
[16-Apr-2008 17:32:22] <cgibbons> w8tah, do you have the zenoss source download or just one of the vmware images, or?
[16-Apr-2008 17:32:42] <W8TAH> source download on ubunutu server
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:19] <W8TAH> the actual install seems to be working fine - but ive corrupted my data it appears
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:40] <W8TAH> so i want to wipe it out and start over and NOT run the auto discovery routine
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:47] <cgibbons> ok, if you go to the 'install' or 'zenossinst' directory or whatever you did check download from, there should be a zenwipe.sh script in there that you can run
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:57] <W8TAH> cool
[16-Apr-2008 17:36:08] <W8TAH> ok - i gotta switch rooms -- back shortly (i hope)
[16-Apr-2008 18:20:58] * idea4gud newline
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:39] <W8TAH> cgibbons, i ran that script and now i cant get into the web ui
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:42] <W8TAH> did i miss something?
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:51] <SEJeff> W8TAH, With admin:zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:04] <W8TAH> OOHHH
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:06] <W8TAH> one sec
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:20] <W8TAH> gotit
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:22] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:27] <zen_amped> lol
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:30] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Thats the default
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:22] <zen_amped> and if you ever wanted to add a user via command line you can use
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:37] <SEJeff> zen_amped, How do you do that?
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:50] <zen_amped> # cd /usr/lib/zope
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:50] <zen_amped> # python bin/zpasswd.py -u <username> -p <password> inituser
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:58] <W8TAH> kewl
[16-Apr-2008 18:46:23] <zen_amped> I got that from the mailing list, thought it was nifity
[16-Apr-2008 18:46:43] <zen_amped> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18490#18490
[16-Apr-2008 18:47:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Default Login Help (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 19:13:45] <SEJeff> Anyone care to explain the rrd create commands to me? Reading the rrdtool tutorial isn't helping understand the zenoss rrdtool RRA lines a whole lot
[16-Apr-2008 20:00:38] <W8TAH> im slowly re-adding my switches etc to zenoss - im wondering how to get them to properly align themselves in terms of network topology
[16-Apr-2008 20:00:49] <W8TAH> on the network map
[16-Apr-2008 20:02:22] <SEJeff> Create a location and assign them to that location
[16-Apr-2008 20:05:06] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[16-Apr-2008 20:05:44] <W8TAH> thanks Jeff -- lot to learn here
[16-Apr-2008 20:07:15] <SEJeff> No problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:21] <W8TAH> hummm... they are in locations now - but everything is attached to the central 192.168.0.0 cloud -- for example - -my domain controller should be hanging off the core switch
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:23] <W8TAH> but its not
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <SEJeff> Read the docs on the google maps stuff
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <idea4gud> hi zenoss : http://pastebin.ca/984996
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:19] <W8TAH> ahh -- ok
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:31] <W8TAH> i was lookin in the wrong part of the maps apparently
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:39] <idea4gud> can any1 in the room lend me their ear
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <idea4gud> just one
[16-Apr-2008 20:10:25] <SEJeff> As the question and if someone knows the answer they will tell you
[16-Apr-2008 20:13:24] <idea4gud> ok i have this webservice which i need to check if its output is correct or not
[16-Apr-2008 20:13:50] <idea4gud> i have readd the howto's link @ zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:08] <idea4gud> of monitoring the website with HttpMonitor
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:34] <idea4gud> but my webservice will only respond if it is queried
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:53] <idea4gud> So I am trying to check the output of my Webservice if its correct
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:54] <idea4gud> or not
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:14] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: BTW, the HttpMonitor link was updated yesterday
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:15] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual (at dev.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:45] <idea4gud> yeah thanx ray
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <idea4gud> i downloaded as u said
[16-Apr-2008 20:16:27] <idea4gud> So now my point: is there anyway in zenoss that zenoss can run some script that queries a particular webserie
[16-Apr-2008 20:16:39] <idea4gud> and zenoss check the output and response time of the service
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:03] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: That would be nice. Especially if we did REST and SOAP ones
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:52] <mrayzenoss> there are a bunch of us learning to write ZenPacks right now, and that's something I think would be really useful
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:52] <idea4gud> i am a student so plz bear with me
[16-Apr-2008 20:18:19] <idea4gud> so u are tryin to say: u r still comin up with zenpack for this type of problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:18:56] <mrayzenoss> in the room right now, we're doing ircd, ftp, ntp, ldap, imap and maybe some others
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:04] <mrayzenoss> but a proper webservices one would be nice
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:11] <magnachef> ping npmccallum
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:41] <npmccallum> magnachef: hey
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:03] <cgibbons> hurm
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:22] <magnachef> just wondering how that NetApp zenpack turned out
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:29] <mrayzenoss> I don't think it's exactly on the radar, but I'd planned on pitching it
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:44] <W8TAH> SEJeff, i got the google maps part working but i think i mis spoke in my original question -- the map i was trying to work on is the 4th item down in the Main Views portion of the left column - the Network Map- (essentially the up down display)
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:45] <idea4gud> npmccallum: i have been asked to ping u for my problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:59] <npmccallum> idea4gud: ok, shoot
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:10] <idea4gud> well have seen my prblem?
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:12] <npmccallum> magnachef: its working well
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:22] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Sorry I don't have time to help you right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:23] <npmccallum> magnachef: can you test it on 2.2?
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:31] <W8TAH> SEJeff, no worries
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:37] <npmccallum> idea4gud: no, I haven't
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <idea4gud> well i hav a webservice which I want to check its response time and output if its correct
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:57] <npmccallum> oh, I'm reading it now
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:00] <npmccallum> gimme a sec
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:04] <idea4gud> k
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:22] <npmccallum> I have no idea
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, You should be able to use the "nagios compatibility layer" and write a script to do the same thing
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:29] <npmccallum> I'm not that far along in my project yet
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:34] <magnachef> I'm currently running 2.1.3
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:45] <npmccallum> magnachef: well, it works with 2.1.x
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:50] <npmccallum> I want to test it on 2.2
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:03] <magnachef> ahhh, I may be able to set something up
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:24] <magnachef> I'd be happy to test it out though
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:31] <W8TAH> anyone else available - i think its simple, i just cant find it - on my network map, (4th item on the admin column) i cant get the various switches and servers to line up correctly - -they are all connected to the central cloud that represents my network and not in the proper order for up/down alerting etc
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:10] <SEJeff> W8TAH, There is a zproperty for turning the mapping on or off. It is in the docs if you read them. Sorry I don't have time to read through thtem all now
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:43] <idea4gud> npmcallum: so are you thruogh with my problem pretty clearly
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:44] <magnachef> npmccallum: if you want to email it to me, or if you're going to post it somewhere, I can test it out in a dev environment
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:00] * magnachef notices taht npmccallum is a popular guy right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:07] <npmccallum> magnachef: ok, I'll post it later this week
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:11] <npmccallum> I'm just swamped right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:16] <W8TAH> SEJeff - ya-- i found that property -- its turned on - (page 35) i guess i mis-configured something somewhere else - thanks anyway
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:18] <magnachef> heh, thanks
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:38] <magnachef> that'll give me time to setup 2.2 in a dev environment
[16-Apr-2008 20:26:25] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You have to have different locations created and assign the devices to those locations invidually or by class
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:27] <W8TAH> prehaps im starting from a wrong pre-supposition - -is that only for WAN links or also LAN?
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <W8TAH> (i only have lan links)
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:59] <SEJeff> It is for wan links
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <W8TAH> ahh - ok - -my mistake - sorry --
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:20] <zen_amped> W8TAH, you are trying to get your stuff in the Network Map, to line up corretly right?
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:27] <W8TAH> zen_amped, yes
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:39] <W8TAH> zen_amped, 4th item in the left hand menu under main views
[16-Apr-2008 20:29:23] <zen_amped> right, umm, can you give me an exapmle of something not lining up correctly?
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:06] <W8TAH> zen - ok - for example - -my domain controller (dc-1) is connected (in the real network) to the core switch (arthur) but in the diagram both are connected to a central cloud called 192.168.0.0/24
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:31] <W8TAH> zen_amped, as i see it -- that would prevent notification of blocking outages etc
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:59] <W8TAH> zen_amped, im new to zenoss so its very possible im mis-understanding the application for the network map
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:47] <zen_amped> on the network map page, the top left corner, put in the name of your core switch and see if that helps you any
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:49] <W8TAH> ok - one moment
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:54] <zen_amped> were it says "selected Device or network"
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:07] <W8TAH> zen_amped, no change
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:29] <W8TAH> except that the core switch is now circled in a pale blue
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:38] <zen_amped> lol
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:45] <W8TAH> grin
[16-Apr-2008 20:34:35] <zen_amped> IDK if this helps but every device is connected to a network (the cloud you see) and even if your domain controller is physically connected to your switch on the "network map" it is connected to a network then your switch. IDK if there is a way to change that or not.
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:09] <W8TAH> ok - its possible it is not -- i was looking for blocking outage reporting but it may not be possible
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:14] <W8TAH> thanks for the assist
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:24] <zen_amped> np
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:38] <zen_amped> for sure check out the documentation
[16-Apr-2008 20:36:21] <W8TAH> zen_amped, i have - there is a short section about the network map on page 15 but it was inconclusive to my reading
[16-Apr-2008 20:37:34] <zen_amped> no bueno
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:24] <idea4gud> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:52] <idea4gud> I am followin this guide to monitor website for response time
[16-Apr-2008 21:10:16] <idea4gud> even though this zenpack is installed i cant select the Datasource Type as HttpMonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:10:20] <idea4gud> can any1 help me
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:11] <malbon> npmccallum: sorry missed it, not got the hang of this irssi thing
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:23] <npmccallum> malbon: np
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:26] <ibscott> i couldn't get it to work and had to use the nagios check check_httpd instead
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:59] <ibscott> then again, i can't get a LOT to work on zenoss, so it very well could just be me
[16-Apr-2008 21:16:08] <SEJeff> cgibbons, ping
[16-Apr-2008 21:28:35] <idea4gud> I am trying to add my Datasource as HttpMonitor type but i could not
[16-Apr-2008 21:29:26] <idea4gud> I following the Howto's for website monitoring with HttpMonitoring can anybody help me
[16-Apr-2008 21:38:36] <idea4gud> magnachef: i have the HttpMonitor loaded
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:08] <idea4gud> but when i try to add the template as per the instructions in zenoss guide http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:28] <idea4gud> i cant see the HttpMonitor type
[16-Apr-2008 21:40:42] <magnachef> you need to add the link as a new device
[16-Apr-2008 21:42:56] <idea4gud> you mean the link i need to monitor should be added as a new device
[16-Apr-2008 21:43:21] <magnachef> i believe so
[16-Apr-2008 21:43:56] <idea4gud> yeah i did that
[16-Apr-2008 21:44:23] <idea4gud> but i am trying to set the performance template
[16-Apr-2008 21:47:12] <magnachef> I'm not really sure, as I haven't set any monitoring up with httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:50:40] <idea4gud> so did you monitor any webservice /website b4
[16-Apr-2008 21:50:48] <idea4gud> if so how
[16-Apr-2008 21:51:34] <magnachef> I haven't set it up in Zenoss before
[16-Apr-2008 21:51:49] <magnachef> I've done it via Perl scripts and RRDs in Cacti
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:20] <idea4gud> ok thanx magna for your help
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:27] <magnachef> you can also look at curl
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:38] <magnachef> you can get performance info that way
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:49] <magnachef> but there is a way to do it in zenoss, try posting in the forum
[16-Apr-2008 21:56:49] <idea4gud> you mean i call curl in a script
[16-Apr-2008 21:56:57] <idea4gud> and check the repsonse time
[16-Apr-2008 22:03:54] <magnachef> curl has built in stats
[16-Apr-2008 22:04:21] <magnachef> http://www.linux.com/articles/57715
[16-Apr-2008 22:04:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Linux.com :: CLI Magic: Use cURL to measure Web site statistics (at www.linux.com)
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:15] <magnachef> going forward though, I do plan on using Zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:29] <idea4gud> k
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:48] <idea4gud> ok also you said Ipservice hasto be added in OSpricess
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:50] <idea4gud> process
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:58] <idea4gud> lasst itme when i aksed
[16-Apr-2008 22:08:18] <magnachef> those should be two different things
[16-Apr-2008 22:08:30] <magnachef> OSProcess and IPService are different
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:27] <b52laptop> hm ppl under ./zenoss/lib
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:34] <b52laptop> there is a ruby repertory !?
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:44] <b52laptop> what zenoss use ruby for ?
[16-Apr-2008 22:11:45] * magnachef shurgs
[16-Apr-2008 22:11:53] <magnachef> s/shurgs/shrugs/
[16-Apr-2008 22:12:46] <idea4gud> you said i have to add Httpd underr OSProcess
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:05] <idea4gud> and Ipservice
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:06] <magnachef> to watch httpd process, yeah
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:14] <magnachef> IPService checks port 80
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:36] <idea4gud> so how do i add IPservice
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:43] <magnachef> for OSProcess though, I believe you need the HRSWInstalled (something like that) MIB
[16-Apr-2008 22:14:31] <magnachef> under the device status page
[16-Apr-2008 22:14:37] <magnachef> click on the OS tagb
[16-Apr-2008 22:15:38] <magnachef> then click on the drop down and click on Add IPService
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:32] <magnachef> or you can go to /Services/IpService/Privileged and find the Service to watch, and click on it, and enable it for certain devices
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:46] <idea4gud> it justs checks whether tcp port @ 80 is up or down
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:55] <idea4gud> i have it running
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:57] <magnachef> yep
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[17-Apr-2008 09:23:04] <brb> hi all
[17-Apr-2008 09:27:32] <brb> guys, i'm have problem with Menus in zenoss 2.1.3 on FreeBSD 7.0, menu not present. somebody can help me?
[17-Apr-2008 09:42:16] <brb> i has found this hint for migrate http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18631#18631 but i not migrate
[17-Apr-2008 09:42:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - No menus in 2.0.2 (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 10:04:28] <mf2ng> hmmz
[17-Apr-2008 10:05:11] <mf2ng> ldap authentication works fine, but zope roles does not enumerate as they should from ldap...
[17-Apr-2008 10:05:18] <mf2ng> ...any hint any1?
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:17] <mf2ng> and brb, don't know for sure but that importerror seems to have a problem with rrd server...
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:22] <mf2ng> ImportError: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/rrdtoolmodule.so: Undefined symbol "FT_Init_FreeType"
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:46] <mf2ng> some font perhaps, as the symbolname seems to point
[17-Apr-2008 10:26:40] <brb> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 10:30:37] <mf2ng> if your case is same as that forum post i mean
[17-Apr-2008 10:34:32] <brb> how i can correct this?
[17-Apr-2008 10:36:45] <mf2ng> if that's an font prob, maybe installing the correct font could help. dunno, that was just an wild guess...
[17-Apr-2008 10:37:07] <mf2ng> ...freetype
[17-Apr-2008 10:38:51] <brb> pkg_add -r freetype has not helped
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:06] <mf2ng> heh
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:09] <mf2ng> no wonder
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:12] <mf2ng>
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:29] <mf2ng> maybe you should look for the freebsd basics then first
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:39] <mf2ng> ports/packages
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:09] <mf2ng> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing Applications: Packages and Ports (at www.freebsd.org)
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:46] <mf2ng> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=freetype&stype=all
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:00] <adytum-bot> Title: FreeBSD Ports Search (at www.freebsd.org)
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:04] <brb> ok, now try install freetype from ports
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:08] <mf2ng> so, perhaps defining existant packagename could help for example
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:34] <mf2ng> it's not relevant that do you install the right package from ports or not
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:44] <mf2ng> relevant is that you define right name for it
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:45] <mf2ng>
[17-Apr-2008 10:42:41] <mf2ng> and maybe you should first check what freetype packages you may have allready
[17-Apr-2008 10:42:47] <mf2ng> pkg_info
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:11] <brb> freetype-1.3.1_4
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:13] <brb> freetype2-2.3.5
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:23] <mf2ng> but still, there's nothing to ensure that your problem is in the font's
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:32] <mf2ng> it's just probability
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:45] <mf2ng> possibility i meant
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:17] <mf2ng> well, maybe i should do my own jobs for a while
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:18] <mf2ng> <=
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:59] <brb> i understand
[17-Apr-2008 10:45:23] <brb> tnx
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[17-Apr-2008 11:22:55] <W8TAH> mornin yall
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:16] <nemo__> afternoon ;p
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:23] <W8TAH>
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:58] <b52laptop> launch time :d
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:10] <W8TAH> jool
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:13] <W8TAH> kool
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:49] <brb>
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:13] <nemo__> if self.quitting: raise BdbQuit
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:13] <nemo__> BdbQuit
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:22] <nemo__> what needs to be raised?
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[17-Apr-2008 12:31:01] <Fikrann> Hello! Is there any guide for adding collector plugins? I have extended the 'remote monitoring script' but I can't find a way to actually get zenoss to query my exensions.
[17-Apr-2008 12:33:47] <SEJeff> Fikrann, Maybe you need to restart ZenOSS?
[17-Apr-2008 12:37:38] <Fikrann> SEJeff, I haven't touched anything zenoss-side. I just mapped a device with the extended script and I'm looking for a way to use those exensions.
[17-Apr-2008 12:43:20] <SEJeff> Never done that, sorry
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:15] <Fikrann> Do you know of any method of getting zenoss to monitor some new server property? It's Linux accessible through SSH...
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:29] <SEJeff> Does it have snmpd installed?
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:55] <SEJeff> The default is to poll via the snmp collector. If you don't have snmpd installed, you need to do 1 of 2 things
[17-Apr-2008 12:45:06] <SEJeff> Put it in a device class that you have use the ssh collector
[17-Apr-2008 12:45:17] <SEJeff> Or add individually the ssh collector
[17-Apr-2008 12:46:01] <nemo__> Fikrann, copy an existing collector plugin, rename it w/e and restart zeo ( zeoctl restart ) as zenoss
[17-Apr-2008 12:46:45] <nemo__> oh yes, if its snmp as SEJeff says ( i always assume snmp these days ! )
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:01] <Fikrann> SEJeff, I have ssh collector installed, yes.
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:20] <Fikrann> it's monitoring all the basic stuff already.
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:23] <SEJeff> Fikrann, You have to specify to use it. ZenOSS does not portscan anything unless you tell it to
[17-Apr-2008 12:48:04] <Fikrann> No portscans; I need it to query a specific command on the server.
[17-Apr-2008 12:48:14] <SEJeff> ok so add a new command
[17-Apr-2008 12:50:14] <SEJeff> Create a device class for that server. Go to the menu --> More --> Collector Plugins
[17-Apr-2008 12:50:43] <SEJeff> If you've already added the command, you can click add and it will be tehre
[17-Apr-2008 12:51:23] <Fikrann> Sorry for asking a dumb question but where do I add a new command in zenoss gui?
[17-Apr-2008 12:52:53] <SEJeff> Fikrann, Forgot how, give me a minute
[17-Apr-2008 12:55:24] <nemo__> settings ( left menu ) -> commands tab
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:26] <SEJeff> nemo__, I think that is only commands that you run from the gui
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:39] <nemo__> hmmmz not sure
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:43] <nemo__> might be right
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:48] <SEJeff> nemo__, As in click the device, menu --> Run commands
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:53] <SEJeff> Thats not what he wants
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:56] * nemo__ nods
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[17-Apr-2008 13:07:55] <SEJeff> Fikrann, It is adding a new Collector Plugin and I can't find where to do that
[17-Apr-2008 13:09:15] <nemo__> Fikrann, copy an existing collector plugin, rename it w/e and restart zeo ( zeoctl restart ) as zenoss
[17-Apr-2008 13:16:06] * Fikrann nods. "Will try that, thank you."
[17-Apr-2008 16:16:06] <mcblad1> Is anyone here who has events from syslogs from remote machines ?
[17-Apr-2008 17:31:57] <garnica> I've got this evet: localhost.localdomain zenactions heartbeat failure
[17-Apr-2008 17:32:15] <garnica> very frequently ..... what is its meaning ??
[17-Apr-2008 17:57:55] <garnica> how can I send an SNMP Test Trap to my Zenoss server ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:01:30] <HexGhost> hello, im wondering if anyone is around to help me with a new zenoss install
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:12] <garnica> yep ... whats the deal ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:25] <HexGhost> well, first let me say it looks really cool
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:29] <HexGhost> but its also really complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:37] <HexGhost> what i want to do with zenoss is monitor 30+ websites
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:50] <cgibbons_> should be easy to do
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:54] <cgibbons_> "easy"
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:56] <HexGhost> heh
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[17-Apr-2008 18:04:02] <HexGhost> im reading this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:15] <HexGhost> but then halfway down there is the "grey" paragraph from "jdb" which is freaking me out
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:31] <HexGhost> heh
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:20] <garnica> so whats your problem ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:27] <HexGhost> well
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:46] <garnica> have you installed it successfully ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:54] <HexGhost> zenoss? ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:02] <HexGhost> im using it on windows, so i downloaded the vmware player and the image
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:07] <HexGhost> that was really easy, so its up and running now
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:15] <HexGhost> then i installed the HttpMonitor, i think i have that working now
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:37] <HexGhost> its hard to tell because there are so many different properties :\
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:55] <garnica> ok....
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:11] <garnica> so you want to monitor http servers right ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:16] <HexGhost> ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:20] <HexGhost> more specifically the website itself
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:32] <HexGhost> not just pinging the server
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:56] <garnica> I would advice you to use SNMP enabled traps from each server so you can receive the status inside the Zenoss event console
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:05] <HexGhost> uhm
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:14] <HexGhost> that would require setting up SNMP on the servers right?
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:22] <garnica> you can monitor processes, performance,, whatever
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:27] <garnica> right !
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:34] <HexGhost> hm
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:35] <garnica> is not that painful
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:37] <HexGhost> i really don't want to do that
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:54] <HexGhost> i just want zenoss to hit a website, if its HTTP 200 great, if not alert me
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:11] <garnica> the first issue here, is to identify what you'd like to monitor ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:21] <garnica> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:23] <HexGhost> i want to monitor websites
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:01] <garnica> ok... but that is very wide....... let's say one webserver... ok...
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <garnica> so you want to monitor iis ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:13] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:23] <HexGhost> sure, although i think that might be innaccurate
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:26] <HexGhost> IIS is a server process
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:27] <garnica> iss activities ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:51] <HexGhost> i want to make sure that website www.myexamplewebsite.com is alive, alive being you can get a HTTP 200 status code if you hit it
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:52] <garnica> ok ... the server processes ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:06] <garnica> ok...
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:07] <HexGhost> i don't care about the process itself, or the cpu usage, blah blah blah
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:15] <HexGhost> i just want to hit a url and see if it works
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:43] <HexGhost> all my servers are windows
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:49] <HexGhost> so im afraid doing anything more complicated will be...complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:20] <garnica> I would use SNMP to send requests from the zenoss system to the webserver.... specifically asking about the http status.....
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:29] <HexGhost> whaa?
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:35] <HexGhost> sorry that just sounds really complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:53] <HexGhost> why use SNMP to do TCP/HTTP ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:04] <garnica> do you know what is SNMP ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:18] <HexGhost> i know it stands for simple network management protocol, and thats about it
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:36] <garnica> jajaja.. ok.. there's more about it !!
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:41] <HexGhost> im sure
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:01] <garnica> and it is not much complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:09] <HexGhost> well thats good then
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:48] <garnica> ok.... you go to the icon "My PC" in the server, right-click it, and select "Administer"
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:08] <HexGhost> you mean "manage?
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:35] <garnica> Sorry, I meant "Manage"
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:38] <garnica> yep
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:38] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:13] <garnica> there you expand a tree on the left side of the window that says something about "Services"
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:22] <HexGhost> ij
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:24] <HexGhost> er ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:27] <HexGhost> got that
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:52] <garnica> you select services and a large list appears on the right side of the screen
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:57] <HexGhost> yep
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:03] <HexGhost> got lots of em
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:12] <garnica> look for "Service SNMP"
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:52] <HexGhost> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:15] <HexGhost> i dont see it :\
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:34] <HexGhost> probably means i have to install it
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:37] <garnica> from the list of services doublce click "SNMP Service"
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:47] <HexGhost> ya, i dont have a "SNMP service"
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:11] <garnica> you have windows ??? server ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:15] <HexGhost> yes
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:20] <HexGhost> windows server 2003
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:31] <garnica> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315154
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:38] <adytum-bot> Title: HOW TO: Configure Security for a Simple Network Management Protocol Service in Windows 2000 (at support.microsoft.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:21:01] <HexGhost> ya i need to install it, one sec
[17-Apr-2008 18:21:52] <HexGhost> http://66.135.149.201/~ghost/a.png
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:05] <HexGhost> it wasn't installed yet i guess, must not come installed by default
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:36] <garnica> should not be much problem to install it
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:43] <HexGhost> ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:08] <HexGhost> arg it wants the stupid windows 2003 server cd
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:19] <HexGhost> do we have to use SNMP?
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:33] <HexGhost> these servers are colocated away from my office, so i won't be able to get the cd to them anytime soon
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:02] <SEJeff> HexGhost, You don't have out of band management?
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:32] <garnica> I would advice you to use SNMP.... it is fast 'cause it uses UDP
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:34] <SEJeff> HexGhost, Dell servers have the Drac card, HPs have their LOM, and sun servers have the ILOM that allows you to map an ISO over the network to a virtual cdrom
[17-Apr-2008 18:25:15] <HexGhost> well these are dell, but i have no idea what a drac card is
[17-Apr-2008 18:25:29] <HexGhost> nor what out of band management is
[17-Apr-2008 18:26:22] <HexGhost> really tho, i have to have SNMP to do this?
[17-Apr-2008 18:26:55] <SEJeff> HexGhost, Well thats sad. You can use WMI to do this without SNMP, but it is cleaner / easier with SNMP
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:22] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:30] <HexGhost> seriously tho. i just want to hit a website to see if its ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:36] <SEJeff> HexGhost, FYI: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/ps2q02_bell Ask your dell rep about these
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:39] <HexGhost> that shouldn't require WMI, SNMP, anything but HTTP
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Remote Systems Management Using the Dell Remote Access Card (at www.dell.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:28:21] <HexGhost> ah
[17-Apr-2008 18:28:29] <HexGhost> im betting we don't have those, unless they come installed by default
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:31] <HexGhost> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:36] <HexGhost> i may have no choice but to use SNMP
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:36] <SEJeff> HexGhost, It is in the adminguide
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:43] <HexGhost> the HttpMonitor just blew up trying to follow the install guide
[17-Apr-2008 18:31:07] <HexGhost> http://66.135.149.201/~ghost/error.png
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:21] <Mark`> ive only been using zenoss for a few days but it seems very set in its ways
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:33] <Mark`> theres a certain way to do everything
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:45] <HexGhost> hm
[17-Apr-2008 18:39:57] <Mark`> ive only done it the standard ways though
[17-Apr-2008 18:39:59] <Mark`> snmp, etc
[17-Apr-2008 18:40:03] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:40:22] <HexGhost> maybe its not the right software for me :| i really don't care about monitoring network hardware
[17-Apr-2008 18:48:17] Spec is now known as x-spec-t
[17-Apr-2008 18:52:38] <Mark`> i dont really know how all the data is fed
[17-Apr-2008 18:52:58] <Mark`> to add a device you just add the host and set some snmp stats and i think it sets it up all through snmp
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:10] <Mark`> but perhaps theres a way to add a device manually with a config file of sorts
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:33] <cgibbons> you can add a device without it doing any SNMP discovery
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:43] <Mark`> i think thats what hexghost needs
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:45] <cgibbons> and then you can bind the HttpMonitor template so it just does that
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:53] <Mark`> ahh
[17-Apr-2008 18:54:13] <cgibbons> when you add device, type in host name and pick a device class path, and the next line is discovery protocol; change that from snmp to none
[17-Apr-2008 18:54:43] <Mark`> oh and then you can fill it all out manually?
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:12] <cgibbons> that's one way, there are others, too (im a zenoss noob )
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:25] <Mark`> me too
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:36] <Mark`> but for all zenoss's quirks i still find it much nicer than nagios etc
[17-Apr-2008 18:56:03] <Mark`> zenoss and cacti together have been really nice
[17-Apr-2008 19:01:14] <HexGhost> well, the httpmonitor template broke
[17-Apr-2008 19:01:21] <HexGhost> so that isn't going to work for me
[17-Apr-2008 19:06:44] <HexGhost> anyway, thanks for the help all, im going to lunch
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[17-Apr-2008 20:20:00] <garnica> a
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[17-Apr-2008 21:41:30] <sircco> hello people, does zenoss have alarm filter?
[17-Apr-2008 21:41:41] <sircco> so i can query somehow filter database and get what i want
[17-Apr-2008 22:01:05] <garnica> as far as I understand, Zenoss can filter alarms
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:09] <garnica> from this link: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ you have the Admin guide
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:30] <garnica> Section 10
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:43] <garnica> Subsection 15
[17-Apr-2008 22:04:00] <garnica> 10.15 SNMP Traps and event transforms
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:06] <garnica> actually, this is what I am trying to do
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:40] <garnica> as far as I can see, you need the mib of the device you want to administer
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:51] <garnica> upload it to the zenoss server
[17-Apr-2008 22:06:05] <garnica> then classify the alarm by creating a class
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:07] <idea4gud> hi guyz: I am trying to access the dashboard from remote machine
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:20] <idea4gud> but my zenoss machine is behind the firewall
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:47] <idea4gud> so cant i access the zenoss web Interface from a machcine that is outside the firewall
[17-Apr-2008 22:24:02] <sircco> oki ..im writing some documentation but i couldnt find that functionality and i dont have commercial version in hand
[17-Apr-2008 22:31:17] <garnica> I'm back !
[17-Apr-2008 22:32:18] <garnica> ok guys !! how do I save all incomming events on my hard disk ???
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[18-Apr-2008 00:38:41] <garnica> bye people !
[18-Apr-2008 00:38:49] <garnica> see 'ya around !
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[18-Apr-2008 04:14:42] <Mark`> anyway to have zenhub only listen on localhost
[18-Apr-2008 04:14:47] <Mark`> i dont plan on doing anything advanced with it
[18-Apr-2008 04:14:56] <Mark`> dont need 8081 and 8789 bound to wildcard
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:15] <Mark`> hah
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:19] <Mark`> finally figured it out.. i think
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:47] <Mark`> modified the python
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:48] <Mark`> nbd i guess
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[18-Apr-2008 08:31:06] <nemo__> morning
[18-Apr-2008 08:44:31] <nemo__> if your device class zproperties say ignore ping and snmp ( for discovered devices ), to be less noisy
[18-Apr-2008 08:44:40] <nemo__> why do i get events in the console from them?
[18-Apr-2008 10:34:55] <mcblady> Is there any way how to activate syslog events ? I can see syslogs with zensyslog -v10 in zensyslog log file, but it wont show up in events and without debuging not even in log file.
[18-Apr-2008 11:11:01] <nemo__> mcblady, that would be your priorties etc
[18-Apr-2008 11:11:36] <nemo__> reading the code of /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py will help you see how it works
[18-Apr-2008 11:15:21] <mcblady> nemo__: Actually i have checked that one and all i was getting is no eventClassKey assigned, so i have done small modification - something like http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2008/001892.html and finally im getting eventClassKey and however i added new eventclasskeys in events its not showing up in zenoss. Just in log file...
[18-Apr-2008 11:15:47] <nemo__> event class key or component ?
[18-Apr-2008 11:16:40] <mcblady> nemo__: mapping
[18-Apr-2008 11:16:58] <nemo__> i understand the issue mcblady , but i found i had to have a component
[18-Apr-2008 11:17:14] <nemo__> adjusting the regex's in that file is whats needed
[18-Apr-2008 11:17:34] <nemo__> your case might be different
[18-Apr-2008 11:20:02] <mcblady> nemo__: I will have a look. thanks anyway...
[18-Apr-2008 11:49:22] <mcblady> nemo__: from evt['eventClassKey'] = evt['component'] is component the eventClassKey set up, the output is zen.Syslog: eventClassKey=postfix/smtpd for example. So there shouldnt be a problem. Problem starting when you want to see that event on web and not just in logs..
[18-Apr-2008 12:31:00] <nemo__> and you get an error that you couldnt map the event ?
[18-Apr-2008 12:32:26] <mcblady> nemo__: actually all i can see is in zensyslog. Nothing in zeneventslog or web interface... and no error in zensyslog.log its not making any sense for me
[18-Apr-2008 12:32:38] <nemo__> you need a component
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:13] <mcblady> what do you mean with component.. component == evt['eventClassKey'] = evt['component'] or component == columm next to device in events ?
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:32] <nemo__> yes column / field
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:43] <nemo__> you know you can edit which fields you show?
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:50] <nemo__> settings - >
[18-Apr-2008 12:37:52] <mcblady> i think i dont
[18-Apr-2008 13:46:46] <going_bald> ne1 home?
[18-Apr-2008 13:46:59] * going_bald pulls tufts of hair out of his head
[18-Apr-2008 14:07:24] <tim_abell> Hi all. I've been using winexe to fire a task off on a 2003 server, and I just installed SP2 and a whole load of other updates. The winexesvc is now crashing whenever I try to run the task. The error: http://pastebin.com/m64559052 Can anyone lend a hand?
[18-Apr-2008 14:08:13] <tim_abell> I've tried "sc delete winexesvc" which completed, but didn't solve the problem.
[18-Apr-2008 14:37:32] <duncan__> Hey I'm trying to fix my OSProcess alerts and not having much luck... I added a process to monitor (vmware-serverd), and somehow it is monitoring two processes, one for /usr/sbin/vmware-serverd which it doesn't see running, and one for /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snm that is seen as running.
[18-Apr-2008 14:38:07] <duncan__> one is under the /snmp class (the working one), and the non working one is in /vmware-serverd class
[18-Apr-2008 14:38:35] <duncan__> Should I just remove vmware-serverd from the monitored processes and let snmp do the monitoring?
[18-Apr-2008 14:50:55] <magnachef> you should probably check you regexp for matching the processes
[18-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <magnachef> I ran into a similar issue with httpd
[18-Apr-2008 14:52:36] <magnachef> see: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5557
[18-Apr-2008 14:52:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problem With Apache OSProcess RegExp... (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Apr-2008 15:10:38] <duncan__> magnachef: thanks, checking out the thread
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[18-Apr-2008 18:41:25] <KillMeNo1> gibbons?
[18-Apr-2008 19:14:47] <cgibbons> hmm?
[18-Apr-2008 19:19:52] <magnachef> Peter Gibbons? "Yeeeaah...we're gonna need you to come in on Saturday. um-kay?!"
[18-Apr-2008 19:20:02] <cgibbons> heh
[18-Apr-2008 19:37:12] <Hellaenergy> How does Zenoss differ from OpsView/Nagios?
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:08] <Mark`> in my limited experience
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:15] <Mark`> zenoss seems to be a lot more automated and web based
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:22] <magnachef> much easier to configure
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:24] <Mark`> yea
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:34] <Mark`> i havent had to touch a text file at all
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:39] <Mark`> but ive had to tinker with a web gui for a while
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:40] <magnachef> it discovers things based on device type, and starts monitoring it by default
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:43] <Mark`> learning some nuances
[18-Apr-2008 19:42:10] <Mark`> basically it seems like zenoss tries to monitor everything it can to start with, and you chop the parts you dont want and lock the profile
[18-Apr-2008 19:43:23] <Hellaenergy> Mark`, have you seen OpsView?
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:24] <Hellaenergy> So Zenoss has its own client side agent?
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:37] <magnachef> net-snmp
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:54] <magnachef> but it can also ssh in and check things, if you want
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:05] <Hellaenergy> makes sense
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:10] <magnachef> so no zenoss specific agent
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:30] <Hellaenergy> Does it come with it's own MIB's?
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:53] <magnachef> no, you'll need to add the mibs
[18-Apr-2008 19:46:45] <Hellaenergy> Anything Zenoss is lacking?
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:07] <Hellaenergy> For instance can it do escalations?
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:28] <magnachef> it does lack in depth documentation, I'll say that
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:58] <magnachef> escalations as in if still red after 30 min, call jim, after 50 min, call mike
[18-Apr-2008 19:48:04] <Hellaenergy> Is there an API?
[18-Apr-2008 19:48:38] <Hellaenergy> For instance would it be easy to add a host or service remotely from a cli?
[18-Apr-2008 19:49:22] <Hellaenergy> That's a shame to have a "Open" solution that lacks documentation. The site seems quite commercial though. Maybe that is the draw to pay for it.
[18-Apr-2008 19:50:01] <Hellaenergy> I found the API: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.1/
[18-Apr-2008 19:50:14] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[18-Apr-2008 19:52:36] <magnachef> there's a REST command that you can do via command line/wget to add devices
[18-Apr-2008 19:54:00] <magnachef> one thing that I wasn't happy with, is that you cannot add a service to a group of servers. You need to add the service to each server individually, then lock it from deleting the next time it models the device
[18-Apr-2008 19:54:37] <magnachef> the forums are a pretty good help
[18-Apr-2008 19:55:10] <magnachef> the docs give you a high level overview, but not much indepth - it takes a little playing around with it to figure it out
[18-Apr-2008 19:55:47] <magnachef> with that said, I think it's a nice product, and a lot nicer than products like Big Brother, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:00:31] <magnachef> I like Cacti for reporting and historical trending more than the perf information available in Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:02:50] <Hellaenergy> magnachef, so are you using Cacti with Zenoss?
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:09] <magnachef> I'm using both, but not integrated (yet?)
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:37] <magnachef> I'm using Cacti for my historical reporting and aggregate graphing, reporting, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:40] <Hellaenergy> RRDTool just doesn't cut it for you?
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:49] <magnachef> Cacti uses RRDTool
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <magnachef> so does Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <Hellaenergy> I see
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:03] <Hellaenergy> I've heard a lot of positive things about Cacti
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:11] <magnachef> I like the templates and ease of creating data templates, and graph templates, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:41] <magnachef> it's real easy to setup host templates, and add/remove metrics
[18-Apr-2008 20:05:11] <magnachef> yeah...there is a cacti plugin for Zenoss (I've seen talked about around the net)
[18-Apr-2008 20:05:19] <magnachef> or maybe it's a Zenoss plugin for Cacti, not sure
[18-Apr-2008 20:06:16] <magnachef> Cacti is nice for graphing and things like that - I like how it allows you to zoom in to sections of the graphs (as compared to Zenoss' version of it)
[18-Apr-2008 20:07:00] <magnachef> recently people have been growing Cacti into a bigger product than just the graphing/reporting through the plugin architecture
[18-Apr-2008 20:08:01] <magnachef> I'm not sold on that, and would prefer something like Zenoss that stores all my device information in a central spot, integrated with events, and have it poll for processes and services running
[18-Apr-2008 20:08:16] <magnachef> I plan on getting syslog and other feeders into Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:09:29] <magnachef> another good thing with Zenoss is that it has a "CMDB". I found the CMDB limited, but we've created our own CMDB and did some custom coding to integrate it into Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <magnachef> I'm just doing a little brain dump, as I've recently gone through evaluating what product to use for monitoring and reporting
[18-Apr-2008 20:26:27] <Mark`> np
[18-Apr-2008 20:32:08] <Hellaenergy> What's CMDB
[18-Apr-2008 20:34:52] <magnachef> configuration management database
[18-Apr-2008 20:34:58] <magnachef> it's an ITIL thing
[18-Apr-2008 20:42:32] <cgibbons> are you using your own homegrown CMDB, magnachef, or one of the other vendors'?
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:28] <magnachef> homegrown
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:44] <magnachef> it's way cheaper, more open/flexible
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:55] <going_bald> most everything is already in zenoss to do a cmdb
[18-Apr-2008 20:44:19] <magnachef> well, "most" is the key
[18-Apr-2008 20:44:53] <magnachef> there's things like power consumption, contract numbers, leased date, etc, is not
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:00] <going_bald> I'm surprised it's not something on the product road map
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:08] <going_bald> for zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:17] <going_bald> true
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:28] <going_bald> just fields in a db table
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:42] <magnachef> there also needs to be a better way to run exports or automated reports of the CMDB stuff too
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:52] * going_bald nods
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:55] <magnachef> yeah, but I think Zenoss does it with Zope objects
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:15] <magnachef> so you can't do a standard mysql query
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:23] <magnachef> there's a few hoops to jump through
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:26] <going_bald> I have hard core python programmer friends that aren't big fans of zope.
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:05] <going_bald> "zope is a mess"
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:12] <going_bald> heh
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:13] <magnachef> yeah, I'm a Perl guy, and not really a big python person, so I'm undecided on Zope
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:16] <magnachef> heh
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:19] <magnachef> nice
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:26] <magnachef> I've heard taht it's a resource hog too
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:45] <going_bald> yeah, I'm perl literate as well, but I've been doing reading/studying on python and it's very nice.
[18-Apr-2008 20:48:59] <going_bald> I'd love for zenoss to have an ip address management module
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:12] <magnachef> yeah, I've been doing the same
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:14] <going_bald> just extend the ip database so you can add/manage
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:20] <going_bald> subnets
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:31] <magnachef> I thought there was something like that
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:51] <magnachef> under /Networks
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:57] <going_bald> it's in there, but it likes to discover everything
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:07] <magnachef> it gives subnets, number of IPs, Free IPs
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:18] <going_bald> there have been issues in the past with discovered networks being overridden
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:28] <going_bald> or I should say static
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:45] <magnachef> yeah
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:06] <going_bald> we have about 8 /16's and I've not found a way of generating them within zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <magnachef> i have a handful of those as well
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:51] <going_bald> i.e. 10.1.x.x->10.1.2.x.->10.1.2.x/24
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:02] <magnachef> seems like they're showing up under /Networks though
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:08] <magnachef> ahhh
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:33] <going_bald> then going from the 10.1.2.0/24->10.1.2.16/28.. blah blah
[18-Apr-2008 20:53:08] <going_bald> need some utilities/plugins to populate networks that will never be discovered as part of a device discovery
[18-Apr-2008 20:53:52] <going_bald> but it does not seem terribly difficult to do something like that with zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:54:07] <going_bald> maybe when I get a better grasp of Zope/Zenoss/Python
[18-Apr-2008 20:56:49] <gordont> I'm interested in doing snmptraps whenever an event is triggered, is the best way to do that is to setup a zencommand to trigger an snmptrap binary?
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:06] <going_bald> I'm interested in doing the same thing
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:10] <going_bald> I saw a HOWTO on it
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:14] <going_bald> on the zenoss site
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:34] <going_bald> let me see if I can find it
[18-Apr-2008 20:58:01] <going_bald> because the "Microsoft Guys" have to use their over priced SCOM "what's up gold" tool
[18-Apr-2008 20:58:13] <gordont> thanks
[18-Apr-2008 21:02:53] <going_bald> one sec
[18-Apr-2008 21:02:58] <going_bald> I know it's here somewhere
[18-Apr-2008 21:06:13] <magnachef> heh, what's up gold is $$$$
[18-Apr-2008 21:07:13] <gordont> hah, wug isn't any more expensive then if you buy a supported zenoss install
[18-Apr-2008 21:08:14] <magnachef> we have a script that goes out to and grabs info from servers then auto imports into CMDB
[18-Apr-2008 21:08:21] <magnachef> yeah, true...Zenoss is very pricey as well
[18-Apr-2008 21:12:30] * magnachef heads out for the weekend
[18-Apr-2008 21:13:26] <going_bald> ttfn
[18-Apr-2008 21:13:32] <going_bald> I can't find the silly thing
[18-Apr-2008 21:43:21] <DarkFoxDK> hey, i am having some trouble with the zenoss VMware appliance
[18-Apr-2008 21:43:56] <DarkFoxDK> i have set it up with a NAT network in vmware, and are trying to map port 8080 to it with shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 21:44:44] <DarkFoxDK> the rule in shorewall seems to be working fine, but i can't open the page anyway...
[18-Apr-2008 21:53:58] <DarkFoxDK> anyone?
[18-Apr-2008 21:54:34] <DarkFoxDK> there's 41 people in this channel, how can it be so quiet?
[18-Apr-2008 21:55:50] <Mark`> dunno
[18-Apr-2008 21:59:04] <DarkFoxDK> *sigh*
[18-Apr-2008 21:59:42] <DarkFoxDK> ok then, i have this rule in shorewall on the host: DNAT:debug net vmnat:192.168.243.128 tcp 8080
[18-Apr-2008 22:00:00] <DarkFoxDK> is this wrong or right?
[18-Apr-2008 22:07:25] <DarkFoxDK> a lot of strong-silent types inhere?
[18-Apr-2008 22:08:46] <Mark`> i dunno much about shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:05] <Mark`> youve got dnat to .128 on 8080
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:13] <Mark`> but when you hit your public ip you cant see it?
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:20] <DarkFoxDK> yes
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:24] <Mark`> can you see it within the lan?
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:36] <DarkFoxDK> oh, haven't checked
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:40] <Mark`> try that first
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:48] <Mark`> so you know if it is a zenoss or firewall issue
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:07] <Mark`> afaik zenoss just uses zope, some python web browser implementation
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:14] <Mark`> so i see no reason why it wouldnt work behind nat
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:49] <DarkFoxDK> aHa!
[18-Apr-2008 22:11:07] <DarkFoxDK> it does work when i use lynx on the host machine
[18-Apr-2008 22:11:46] <Mark`> i do iptables by hand so im not familiar with what to look for in shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 22:12:02] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[18-Apr-2008 22:14:35] <DarkFoxDK> well, i'll go haunt someone who knows something about shorewall then, thanks for the help :-)
[18-Apr-2008 23:11:32] <idea4gud> hi any there in the room
[18-Apr-2008 23:12:00] <idea4gud> any good utility to convert IPv4 to IPv6
[18-Apr-2008 23:12:13] <idea4gud> along with CIDR
[18-Apr-2008 23:42:47] <Mark`> uhm
[18-Apr-2008 23:43:05] <Mark`> what do you mean
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[19-Apr-2008 13:33:13] <waa> I'm trying to checkout the zenoss source code from http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/trunk/inst and I'm getting this erro:
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:18] <waa> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default'
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:20] <waa> svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 200 OK (http://dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 9044: /trunk/inst (at dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:40] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:34:30] <waa> there is a problem in svn?
[19-Apr-2008 15:07:18] <Limt33r> anybody home?
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[19-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <DarkFoxDK> hi, how do i change the hostname of the VMware app?
[19-Apr-2008 20:20:17] <DarkFoxDK> i have tried changing it in /etc/hosts and with the hostname command, but it keeps resetting to localhost
[19-Apr-2008 20:22:26] <Mark`> i guess it would depend on the distribution of linux you are using within vmware
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:06] <DarkFoxDK> i just got the vmware app from zenoss.com
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:40] <Mark`> shrug
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:43] <Mark`> what linux runs in it
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:50] <Mark`> ive never used the vmware image
[19-Apr-2008 20:24:21] <Mark`> Operating system: rPath Linux
[19-Apr-2008 20:24:21] <Mark`> hmm
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:34] <Mark`> so
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:40] <Mark`> your /etc/hosts file keeps reverting back
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:42] <Mark`> or what
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:50] <DarkFoxDK> back, sory
[19-Apr-2008 20:26:56] <DarkFoxDK> no, it stays as it is, but when i use the cmd hostname it returns localhost.localdomain
[19-Apr-2008 20:28:53] <Mark`> what lines to have in your /etc/hosts file
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:10] <Mark`> also hostname is different than /etc/hosts
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:26] <Mark`> you change your hostname with
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:28] <Mark`> hostname newhostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:35] <DarkFoxDK> yes, i did that
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:42] <Mark`> /etc/hosts is just for resolution
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:49] <DarkFoxDK> but after reboot it resets
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:53] <Mark`> well yea
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:03] <Mark`> theres usually a seperate config file for hostname somewhere
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:06] <Mark`> depends on distribution
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:19] <DarkFoxDK> in hosts i have:
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:21] <Mark`> /etc/hostname sometimes, sometimes /etc/conf.d/hostname sometimes /etc/sysconfig/hostname or network
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:32] <DarkFoxDK> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:32] <DarkFoxDK> 127.0.1.1 zenoss zenoss.lzd.dk
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:41] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:47] <DarkFoxDK> i am used to debian-type systems
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:18] <Mark`> on my redhat boxes its /etc/sysconfig/network
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:24] <Mark`> gentoo boxes its /etc/conf.d/hostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:30] <Mark`> oldschool boxes its /etc/hostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:48] <DarkFoxDK> oh, it's /etc/sysconfig/network
[19-Apr-2008 20:32:24] <DarkFoxDK> thanks
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:28] <Mark`> np
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:38] <Mark`> and honestly im a zenoss newb, i have no affiliation with this project at all
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:47] <Mark`> good thing you arent asking any questions about zenoss
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:47] <Mark`> lol
[19-Apr-2008 20:35:11] <DarkFoxDK> heh,
[19-Apr-2008 21:05:35] <DarkFoxDK> hmm, does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss?
[19-Apr-2008 21:06:32] <DarkFoxDK> hmm, does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss?
[19-Apr-2008 21:07:22] <DarkFoxDK> if this chat app would just work.... let's try again: does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss
[19-Apr-2008 21:07:25] <DarkFoxDK> ?
[19-Apr-2008 21:12:59] <DarkFoxDK> oh for... "127.0.1.1 sendto error Host zenoss and zenoss.lzd.dk are both using ip 127.0.1.1"
[19-Apr-2008 21:22:57] <DarkFoxDK> nvm, found a fix
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[20-Apr-2008 17:20:32] <DarkFoxDK> hi, i am trying to make net-snmp send lm_sensors values on Ubuntu, but i can't quite figure it out...
[20-Apr-2008 17:26:35] <Mark`> is your snmpd built with lm_sensors support?
[20-Apr-2008 17:28:18] <DarkFoxDK> well, i just go the one from the repository
[20-Apr-2008 17:28:38] <DarkFoxDK> and did dpkg-reconfigure on it
[20-Apr-2008 17:29:12] <Mark`> in gentoo theres a specific useflag for snmpd with lm_sensors
[20-Apr-2008 17:29:32] <DarkFoxDK> when that didn't work i tried making my own parsing script and added exec lines to the snmpd.conf, but they don't show up when i do snmpwalk
[20-Apr-2008 17:30:20] <Mark`> i dont think it has to be that complicated
[20-Apr-2008 17:30:40] <DarkFoxDK> neither do i
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:00] <DarkFoxDK> but when working with the ubuntu reps.... *sigh*
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:26] <DarkFoxDK> more likw "working against"...
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:29] <DarkFoxDK> like*
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:05] <Mark`> none of my boards use lm_sensors
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:13] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:14] <Mark`> all of our stuff uses dell openmanage or coretemp
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:18] <Mark`> but
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:23] <Mark`> i can view that stuff too just fine
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:06] <DarkFoxDK> it's probably because i use the rep version of snmp, i think i'll remove it and install it from source instead
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:18] <Mark`> [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/net-snmp-5.4.1-r1 USE="perl python ssl tcpd -X -diskio -doc -elf -ipv6 -lm_sensors -mfd-rewrites -minimal -rpm (-selinux) -sendmail -smux" 0 kB
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:28] <Mark`> *shrug*
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[21-Apr-2008 12:06:08] <mf2ng> hmm
[21-Apr-2008 12:06:18] <mf2ng> alerting rules have an bug
[21-Apr-2008 12:07:03] <mf2ng> i've had three exactly similar rules, every production state event that is at least an error and is new should be paged to me
[21-Apr-2008 12:07:32] <mf2ng> now i get three pages fot every event even i have deleted those testrules
[21-Apr-2008 13:53:40] <xd> a
[21-Apr-2008 13:53:52] <xd> hullo
[21-Apr-2008 14:00:48] <cgibbons> greenthings
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[21-Apr-2008 15:23:09] <garnica> so ... I want to trigger a java program every time I receive "host 10.36.2.xx is down" what can I do ?
[21-Apr-2008 15:57:18] <cgibbons> do you know how to create event mappings yet, garncia?
[21-Apr-2008 15:57:26] <cgibbons> er, garnica
[21-Apr-2008 15:58:21] <garnica> you click on the left of the event and from the tab menu select Add Mapping ....
[21-Apr-2008 15:59:57] <garnica> ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:00:48] <garnica> I've tried the 'Event Manager' inside the 'Commands' tab
[21-Apr-2008 16:02:07] <cgibbons> sec, trying to remember how to do that myself. in any event once you get a mapping setup you can define a command to be executed afterwards.
[21-Apr-2008 16:02:26] <cgibbons> it's python command btu that could easily exec your java command line
[21-Apr-2008 16:03:11] <garnica> ok.ok.... so executed commands are python commands ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:41] <cgibbons> garnica, check this link out: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch10s14.html#d0e3545
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:53] <cgibbons> looks like it can do arbitrary shell commands
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 16:22:06] <mrayzenoss> sweet
[21-Apr-2008 16:36:57] <ronan675> Anyone have any idea why I would be getting false host down reports?? A few of our servers are showing ping failures but they are definetely up. I can ping them fine from the command line of the zenoss box
[21-Apr-2008 16:40:12] <garnica> have you ping them from the zenoss server ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:40:56] <ronan675> yes
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:02] <ronan675> It works fine from there
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:07] <garnica> check the status of the zenoss box at the command line: zenoss status
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <garnica> check all the daemons run correctly specially zenping
[21-Apr-2008 16:42:01] <ronan675> It seems to look ok -- Daemon: zenping program running; pid=26007
[21-Apr-2008 16:42:16] <garnica> or try reloading zenping $shell> zenping restart
[21-Apr-2008 16:43:30] <garnica> try with $shell> zenping stop ..... and then $bash> zenping start
[21-Apr-2008 16:43:42] <garnica> or with $shell> zenping run
[21-Apr-2008 16:44:10] <ronan675> hmmm I get command not found when I try to restart zenping from cmd
[21-Apr-2008 16:49:05] <ronan675> Ah nevermind my envirnment paths were not set correctly. I have stopped and started zenping. I will see if that makes any difference
[21-Apr-2008 16:53:57] <ronan675> It looks like zenping wont stay running
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[21-Apr-2008 17:06:09] <ronan675> Restarting zenping does not seem to have cleared those false alerts. Still showing as down. Very strange issue I am running out of ideas
[21-Apr-2008 17:51:50] <magnachef> ronan: did the events not clear, or are they still incrementing their count?
[21-Apr-2008 17:51:55] <magnachef> look at the last alert time
[21-Apr-2008 18:01:39] <garnica> I want to execute a java program depending upon the severity of my events..... say "Critical" I want to execute "java Critical", then for the "Warning"s I want to execute "java Warnings"..
[21-Apr-2008 18:01:44] <garnica> How can I do this ?
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:33] <Mark`> theres probably a way under Event Manager
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:38] <Mark`> under the command tab
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:43] <Mark`> ive never done it myself
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:06] <garnica> yep... I have tried it ! once you add a command with the name you want there is an edit section with text area that says "Command:" apparently this is where you write any command, say bash command, application or java
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <garnica> but it is not.....
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:33] <garnica> it seems to be for you to write a TALES expression.....
[21-Apr-2008 18:11:05] <garnica> I am dealing with these TALES expressions to see if I can launch a java application
[21-Apr-2008 18:39:13] <garnica> ok !! sorry about my last comment !! nothing wrong !! on the command: you write any command like "java javaAP"
[21-Apr-2008 18:39:33] <garnica> and works !!
[21-Apr-2008 18:56:11] <garnica> now.... how can I send an email when a critical event occurs ??
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:22] <Mark`> thats done through/groups and users (i think, i am new to this too)
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:32] <Mark`> i made my partner and i user accounts and added us to a group
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:40] <Mark`> then for our group i clicked 'alerting rules'
[21-Apr-2008 19:37:32] <tcrass> Have a feature question, is there some Zenpack which provides something of a change management system in Zenoss? As in, the ability to manually input, SysAdmin-BLAH performed task X on server Y on day B, approved by SrSysAdmin-BLECH. or anything of that sort. Like even a commenting system which allows you to enter what has happened with what server would also be a huge help and suffice.
[21-Apr-2008 19:50:24] <magnachef> not that I have seen
[21-Apr-2008 19:51:30] <Mark`> theres a commenting system for events i think
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[21-Apr-2008 19:51:57] <magnachef> yeah, there's a Log where you can put notes for events
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:10] <magnachef> but not for the devices themselves
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:24] <Mark`> if you get an alert that a raid controller is failed you can add a note to the log like
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:37] <Mark`> 'swapped drive 3, rma'ing to manufacturer - mark'
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:44] <Mark`> and it sticks with the event in the history
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:44] <Mark`> etc
[21-Apr-2008 19:54:00] <Mark`> theres a little comment field
[21-Apr-2008 19:54:08] <Mark`> under device > edit too
[21-Apr-2008 19:55:08] <Mark`> not enough to really keep a running log though
[21-Apr-2008 20:01:18] <mrayzenoss> tcrass: Not sure we have that functionality yet, feel free to send a request to prodinput@zenoss.com, or straight to me at mray@zenoss.com
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[21-Apr-2008 20:01:32] <mrayzenoss> Quick Start Guide
[21-Apr-2008 20:01:34] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss Version 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:02:16] <mrayzenoss> September 26, 2007
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:18] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:20] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:22] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 2 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:24] <mrayzenoss> Table of Contents
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:26] <mrayzenoss> 1 Overview.......................................................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:29] <mrayzenoss> 1.1 Introduction to Zenoss Core............................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:33] <mrayzenoss> 1.2 Additional Resources.......................................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:37] <mrayzenoss> 2 Getting Started.............................................................................................6
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:39] <mrayzenoss> 2.1 Installing Zenoss Core Using RPM Packages..................................................6
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.2 Installing Zenoss Core Using Source Code.....................................................7
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:44] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 Installing Zenoss VM Appliance Using VM Player............................................7
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:46] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 Logging On......................................................................................................8
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:48] <mrayzenoss> 3 Defining Your Environment........................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:51] <mrayzenoss> 3.1 Basics Settings................................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:53] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.1 Configure the SMTP Server............................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:56] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.2 Configure your SNMP Community Strings....................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:00] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.3 Create Your Windows Administrator Settings.............................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:05] <mrayzenoss> 3.2 Create Your Logical Groupings......................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:06] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.1 Create Your Locations..................................................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:09] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.2 Create Your Systems....................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:13] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.3 Create Your Groups......................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:15] <mrayzenoss> 3.3 Define a Monitored Processes.......................................................................12
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:18] <mrayzenoss> 4 Discovering Your Environment................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:20] <mrayzenoss> 4.1 Add a Device.................................................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:23] <mrayzenoss> 4.2 Add a Network...............................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:26] <mrayzenoss> 4.3 Discover Networks.........................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:29] <mrayzenoss> 5 Monitoring Your Environment..................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:33] <mrayzenoss> 5.1 Viewing Your Managed Resources................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:35] <mrayzenoss> 5.2 Viewing Your Events.....................................................................................16
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:38] <mrayzenoss> 5.3 Viewing Reports............................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:40] <mrayzenoss> 5.4 Custom Monitoring........................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:44] <mrayzenoss> 5.4.1 Adding a Community ZenPack.....................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:47] <mrayzenoss> 6 Managing Your Environment....................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:49] <mrayzenoss> 6.1 Adding Zenoss Users....................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.1 Adding a Zenoss User...................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:54] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.2 Creating an Alerting Rule..............................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:58] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.3 Creating an Alerting Rule Schedule.............................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:03] <mrayzenoss> 7 Notes...........................................................................................................21
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:05] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:07] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:09] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 3 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:11] <mrayzenoss> List of Figures
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:13] <mrayzenoss> Figure 2-1 - Zenoss Login Screen........................................................................................................8
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:17] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-1 Zenoss Settings Tab............................................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:20] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-2 Configuring SNMP Community Strings............................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:23] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-3 Adding a New Location......................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:25] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-4 Defining a Monitored Process...........................................................................................12
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:29] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-1 Adding a Device.................................................................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:34] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-2 Adding a Network...............................................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:37] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-3 Discovering Networks........................................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:40] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-1 Zenoss Device List.............................................................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:43] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-2 Device Status page............................................................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:46] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-3 Zenoss Event Console......................................................................................................16
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:49] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-4 Zenoss Reports..................................................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:52] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-1 Adding a New User............................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:54] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-2 Configuring a User.............................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:58] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-3 Creating an Alerting Rule..................................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:02] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-4 Configuring an Alerting Rule.............................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-5 Creating a Rule Window....................................................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:09] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-6 Configuring a Rule Window...............................................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:14] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:16] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 4 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:18] <mrayzenoss> 1 Overview
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:19] <mrayzenoss> This purpose of this document is to get you up and running using the Zenoss Core software and
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:22] <mrayzenoss> show you how do perform basic tasks such as:
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:24] <mrayzenoss> ? Installing the Zenoss Core software.
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:26] <mrayzenoss> ? Defining your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:27] <mrayzenoss> ? Discovering devices with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:30] <mrayzenoss> ? Monitoring your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:34] <mrayzenoss> ? Managing your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:36] <mrayzenoss> 1.1 Introduction to Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:38] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core ? the most downloaded enterprise open source IT management software product ?
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:40] <mrayzenoss> is an integrated IT monitoring software package that allows IT administrators to manage the
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:42] <mrayzenoss> status and health of their infrastructures through a single, web-based console. Zenoss Core is an
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:44] <mrayzenoss> open source network and systems management software and is the intellectual property of
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:46] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Incorporated, a privately held company headquartered in Annapolis, MD.
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:48] <mrayzenoss> The power of Zenoss Core starts with an in-depth Inventory and Configuration Management
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:50] <mrayzenoss> Database (CMDB) created by discovering managed resources (such as servers, networks, and
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:52] <mrayzenoss> other infrastructure devices) in your IT environment. The Zenoss-created model of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:54] <mrayzenoss> environment provides a complete inventory of the key systems down to the resource component
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:56] <mrayzenoss> level (interfaces, services and process, installed software etc.) With the model built, you can
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:58] <mrayzenoss> begin monitoring and reporting on all aspects of the IT infrastructure using the Zenoss Core?s
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:59] <mrayzenoss> integrated availability and performance monitoring capabilities. Zenoss also provides an events
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:04] <mrayzenoss> and fault management system that ties in to the CMDB to help drive operational efficiency and
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:06] <mrayzenoss> productivity by automating many of the notification, alerting, escalation and remediation tasks
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:08] <mrayzenoss> performed by everyday IT Operational staff.
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:09] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:12] <mrayzenoss> 1.2 Additional Resources
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:14] <mrayzenoss> If you need additional help, or have some troubleshooting questions, see the Zenoss website for:
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:16] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Installation Instructions
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:17] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:20] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Admin Guide and other documents
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:22] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:23] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Wiki
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:26] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:28] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss FAQ
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:30] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:31] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install Guides - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:34] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Users Mailing Lists
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:36] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/lists
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:38] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss User Forum
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:40] <mrayzenoss> o http://community.zenoss.com/forums/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:42] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Blog
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://blog.zenoss.com/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:46] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:48] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:50] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 5 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:52] <mrayzenoss> If you have comments or questions about this document, please direct them to:
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:54] <mrayzenoss> feedback@zenoss.com
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:56] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:57] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:02] <magnachef> ahhhh, make it stop!
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:03] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:06] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 6 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:08] <mrayzenoss> 2 Getting Started
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:10] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be downloaded via the Zenoss website:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:12] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/download
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:14] <mrayzenoss> Or from the Zenoss Sourceforge project web page:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:16] <mrayzenoss> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:18] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:19] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be run on most LINUX and UNIX based platforms; however, we recommend
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Wiki - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:22] <mrayzenoss> installing Zenoss Core on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) platform or any RHEL derivative
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:24] <mrayzenoss> platform (e.g. Centos or Fedora).
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:25] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is also available as a virtual appliance that can be installed on Windows and Linux
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:27] <mrayzenoss> platforms using a VMware Player or VMware Server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:29] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is a monitoring solution that can be accessed via a web browser. Supported web
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:34] <mrayzenoss> browsers are Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. Zenoss Core partially supports Safari and Opera
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:36] <mrayzenoss> web browsers.
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:38] <mrayzenoss> 2.1 Installing Zenoss Core Using RPM Packages
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - FAQs - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:40] <mrayzenoss> Please access Zenoss Core RPM installation instructions for the following platforms:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:42] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for RHEL 4/Centos 4 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-centos/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:46] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for RHEL 5/Centos 5 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Lists - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:48] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-redhat-
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:49] <mrayzenoss> enterprise-linux/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:52] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Fedora 6
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:54] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-fedora-core-6/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:55] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 (SLES 10)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:58] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-zenoss-on-suse-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:00] <mrayzenoss> enterprise-linux-10/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: Index (at community.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:03] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:05] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:08] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:08:12] <mrayzenoss> 2.2 Installing Zenoss Core Using Source Code
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:14] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be built and installed on Linux and UNIX based platforms using the source
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:15] <mrayzenoss> code. The Zenoss Core source code can be downloaded either from the source tar ball or via
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:18] <mrayzenoss> Subversion.
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:20] <mrayzenoss> Generic source code installation instructions can be accessed at the link below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:22] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-from-source/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:23] <mrayzenoss> Below is specific installation or prerequisite configuration instructions for Zenoss Core source
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:25] <mrayzenoss> code installation for the following platforms:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:27] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Ubuntu 6.10 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:29] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-zenoss-on-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:34] <mrayzenoss> ubuntu/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:36] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Ubuntu 7 (Feisty Fawn) Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:38] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-zenoss-on-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:40] <mrayzenoss> ubuntu-7-04-feisty-fawn/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:41] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for FreeBSD 6.1 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-1/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for FreeBSD 6.1 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:48] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-6.2-1/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:50] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:51] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 Installing Zenoss VM Appliance Using VM Player
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:54] <mrayzenoss> A free VMware Player can be downloaded at the VMware site below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:56] <mrayzenoss> http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:58] <mrayzenoss> A typical host system used for a VMware installation should have the following specifications:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:59] <mrayzenoss> ? Processor: 500MHz or greater
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:04] <mrayzenoss> ? RAM: 512 MB RAM or greater
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:06] <mrayzenoss> To effectively run a Zenoss VM Appliance (or any guest operating system), the host server must
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:08] <mrayzenoss> have enough resource to allocate a minimum of 256MB RAM and 1GB disk space to the Zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:09] <mrayzenoss> Core Virtual Appliance image. The VMware Player software requires approximately 150 MB of
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Which Zenoss is right for you? - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:12] <mrayzenoss> disk space to install the application.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:14] <mrayzenoss> Once the VMware Player is installed on the host server, download the Zenoss VMware Appliance
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:16] <mrayzenoss> image onto the host server as well. The VMware image is packages as a Zip (*.zip) file. Unzip the
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:18] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss VM Appliance into the appropriate folder according to the VMware Player instructions. At
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <mrayzenoss> the VMware Player Console, navigate to the VM images folder and load the Zenoss VM
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:22] <mrayzenoss> Appliance image.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:23] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:25] <mrayzenoss> When prompted for a local host login, enter ?root? to gain access to the Zenoss Appliance
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:27] <mrayzenoss> command line
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:30] <mrayzenoss> Local host login: root
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:33] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:36] <mrayzenoss> The Zenoss VM Appliance is configured for DHCP addressing by default. If your network is not
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:38] <mrayzenoss> configured for DHCP, assign a static IP address to the server and verify that the server can
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:40] <mrayzenoss> communicate with your network.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:44] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 8 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:48] <mrayzenoss> Verify the IP Address of the Zenoss VM Appliance server
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:50] <mrayzenoss> zenossserver ~#ifconfig
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:51] <mrayzenoss> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:56:A9:73:4B
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:53] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring (at sourceforge.net)
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:54] <mrayzenoss> inet addr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Bcast:xxx.xxx.xxx.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:56] <mrayzenoss> inet6 addr: fe80::250:56ff:fea9:734b/64 Scope:Link
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:58] <mrayzenoss> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:00] <mrayzenoss> RX packets:26819795 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on Fedora Core 6 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:04] <mrayzenoss> TX packets:26720599 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install from Source - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Download VMware Player, Free VMware - VMware (at www.vmware.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:06] <mrayzenoss> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:08] <mrayzenoss> RX bytes:395109646 (376.8 MiB) TX bytes:2753868547 (2.5 GiB)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:10] <mrayzenoss> Interrupt:177 Base address:0x1400
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:14] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 Logging On
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:16] <mrayzenoss> At a web browser access the Zenoss web UI via the URL below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:18] <mrayzenoss> http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:20] <mrayzenoss> The IP address used should be that of the server that the Zenoss Core software is installed upon.
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:22] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss VM Appliances, the IP address used should be that of the Zenoss VM Appliance (and
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:24] <mrayzenoss> not of the host server).
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:27] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:29] <mrayzenoss> Figure 2-1 - Zenoss Login Screen
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:34] <mrayzenoss> When the login prompt of the web UI appears, log in as:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:35] <mrayzenoss> User: admin
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:37] <mrayzenoss> Password: zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:40] <mrayzenoss> and Click ?Submit?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:42] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:10:45] <mrayzenoss> 3 Defining Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:47] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is a complete enterprise monitoring solution and provides you with the tools to
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:50] <mrayzenoss> effectively manage and monitor your IT infrastructure. Since no two environments are the same,
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:52] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss enables you to define your environment any way you choose. Here are a few things you
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:54] <mrayzenoss> should define or configure to get you started:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:56] <mrayzenoss> 3.1 Basics Settings
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:58] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.1 Configure the SMTP Server
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:00] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while setting up your SMTP server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:04] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Settings.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:05] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Settings tab, set the ?SMTP Host? field for your preferred SMTP server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:08] <mrayzenoss> 3. Set the ?SMTP User? and ?SMTP Password? fields (if necessary for the SMTP server you
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:10] <mrayzenoss> want to use).
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:11] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?Save? button.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:13] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:16] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:18] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-1 Zenoss Settings Tab
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:20] <mrayzenoss> Note: The default setting for this parameter is ?localhost? which is an internal SMTP server. The
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:22] <mrayzenoss> Settings tab can be also be used to configure other system settings such as your preferred SNPP
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:24] <mrayzenoss> Host.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:26] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.2 Configure your SNMP Community Strings
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:28] <mrayzenoss> SNMP Community Strings can be configured at the ?zSnmpCommunity? parameter of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:30] <mrayzenoss> ZProperties tab. This can be configured at any level of the device object tree. For instance the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:33] <mrayzenoss> ?ZSnmpCommunity? field can be configured at the ZProperties tab of a Device Class or at that of
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:35] <mrayzenoss> an individual device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:38] <mrayzenoss> For automated discovery of devices, Zenoss provides an advantage in configuring a list of valid
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:40] <mrayzenoss> community string that is valid in your environment where by Zenoss can use this list during the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:42] <mrayzenoss> network discovery and modeling of your entire environment.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:44] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while setting up your SNMP community list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:45] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Devices .
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:47] <mrayzenoss> 2. Navigate to the zProperties Tab on the Devices Class page.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:49] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add any applicable SNMP strings to the ?ZSnmpCommunities? text area.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:51] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:54] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:11:57] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:00] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-2 Configuring SNMP Community Strings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:05] <cgibbons> hurm
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:06] <mrayzenoss> Note: Modifying the ?zSnmpCommunities? parameter can be done at any level of the device tree
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:07] <mrayzenoss> and this would override parameters inherited from the parent device class.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:10] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:12] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.3 Create Your Windows Administrator Settings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:14] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss to access and leverage the Windows WMI framework, your Zenoss server must have
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:16] <mrayzenoss> Administrator level access to your Windows devices.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:18] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while configuring Windows Administrator settings:
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:20] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Devices.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:22] <mrayzenoss> 2. Drill down to the Server link, and the Windows link to open to the Windows device class
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <mrayzenoss> page.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:26] <mrayzenoss> 3. From the Windows Class page, click the zProperties Tab.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:27] <mrayzenoss> 4. At the zProperties tab, set the ?zWinUser? field (default: Adminsitrator)
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:29] <mrayzenoss> 5. Also set the ?zWinPassword? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:33] <mrayzenoss> Note: Modifying the ?zWinUser? and ?ZWinPassword? parameters can be done at any level of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:36] <mrayzenoss> device tree and this would override parameters inherited from the parent device class.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:39] <mrayzenoss> 3.2 Create Your Logical Groupings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:42] <mrayzenoss> You can configure logical groupings to manage the different views of your environment that you
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:44] <mrayzenoss> wish to see. The types of logical groupings you create are entirely up to you, and it?s best that the
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:46] <mrayzenoss> groups and sub groups you create make sense to your IT organization.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:48] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.1 Create Your Locations
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:49] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while you create a Locations group or sub-group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:51] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Locations.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:53] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click on the drop-down table-menu of the Sub-Locations table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:56] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:57] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:00] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 11 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-3 Adding a New Location
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:07] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:10] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Location.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:12] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub-locations under existing Locations groupings as well.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:14] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.2 Create Your Systems
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:15] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while you create a Locations group or sub-group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:17] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Systems .
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:20] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table-menu of the Sub-Systems table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:22] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:24] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:25] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Systems grouping.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:28] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub-locations under existing Systems groupings as well.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:30] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:34] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.3 Create Your Groups
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:36] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while creating a Locations group or sub group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:38] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Groups.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:39] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table-menu from the Sub-Groups table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:41] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:44] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:46] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Groups grouping.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:48] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub locations under existing Groups groupings as well..
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:49] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:52] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 12 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:54] <mrayzenoss> 3.3 Define a Monitored Processes
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:56] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss allows you to define the processes you want to monitor across your network. During the
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <magnachef> DGitz: you may have to wait until this is all done
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <mrayzenoss> modeling process, Zenoss checks your list of defined processes against processes running on
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:00] <mrayzenoss> the managed resources, and automatically models and monitors the matched processes on your
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:03] <mrayzenoss> devices. Below are basic steps to follow to define a process you want to monitor in Zenoss.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:06] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Processes.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:08] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the drop-down table-menu of the Processes table, select ?Add Process?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:10] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:14] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-4 Defining a Monitored Process
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:15] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new process identifier to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:18] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new network address.\
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:19] <mrayzenoss> Note: Regular Expressions can be applied to define the process identifier and zenoss would
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:22] <mrayzenoss> model successful matches accordingly.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:28] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <magnachef> mrayzenoss: Can you please jump out of the room please?
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 13 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:33] <mrayzenoss> 4 Discovering Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:35] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:38] <mrayzenoss> 4.1 Add a Device
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:40] <mrayzenoss> Devices to be monitored can be added to the Zenoss System individually. Below are basic steps
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:42] <mrayzenoss> to follow while modeling a device via SNMP.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:44] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Add a Device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:46] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Add a Device page, in the ?Device Name? field, enter a qualified domain name
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:47] <cgibbons> let me ping him via IM real quick
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:48] <mrayzenoss> or IP address for the device to be modeled and monitored.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:50] <mrayzenoss> 3. Set the ?SNMP Community? field (if necessary).
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:51] <mrayzenoss> 4. From the ?Device Class Path? dropdown menu, select the device class to be associated
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:54] <mrayzenoss> with the device to be modeled and monitored.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:55] <mrayzenoss> 5. Select any applicable parameters from the ?Location Path? field, ?Systems? field, and
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:58] <mrayzenoss> ?Groups? field (if you have previously defined any logical groupings).
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:59] <mrayzenoss> 6. Click the ?Add device? button to auto-discover and model the device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-1 Adding a Device
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:07] <mrayzenoss> Once the modeling process is complete, you can navigate to the device via the device link.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:10] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:12] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 14 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:14] <mrayzenoss> 4.2 Add a Network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:16] <mrayzenoss> You can add Networks to the Zenoss System individually. Below are basic steps to follow while
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:16] <DGitz42> Close the gates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:18] <mrayzenoss> adding a network.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:20] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigational menu, select Networks.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:22] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Overview tab, click the drop-down table menu from the Subnetworks table
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:24] <mrayzenoss> and select ?Add Network?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:28] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:29] <DGitz42> Arggggggggghhhhhhh
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:30] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-2 Adding a Network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:34] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new network and subnet mask to the ?ID? field using the CIDR format (For
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:36] <mrayzenoss> example, enter 192.168.1.0/24).
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:38] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new network address.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:40] <mrayzenoss> Note: These steps can be used to add sub networks at any level of the network tree.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:43] <magnachef> I tried to kick him, but I'm not an OP
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:44] <mrayzenoss> 4.3 Discover Networks
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:46] <mrayzenoss> You can use Zenoss to discover and perform basic modeling functions on devices available on
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:47] <mrayzenoss> networks in the Zenoss system. Below are basic steps to follow while performing a network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:49] <mrayzenoss> discovery.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Networks.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:53] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table menu for the Sub-networks table and select ?Discover
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:55] <mrayzenoss> Devices?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:58] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:00] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-3 Discovering Networks
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:04] <mrayzenoss> Note: These steps can be used to discover devices on sub-networks at any level of the network
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:04] <DGitz42> this is an outrage...
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:06] <mrayzenoss> tree.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:08] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:10] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 15 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:12] <mrayzenoss> 5 Monitoring Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:14] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:15] <mrayzenoss> 5.1 Viewing Your Managed Resources
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:17] <mrayzenoss> With Zenoss Core, you can navigate to your managed resources using various links throughout
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:18] <DGitz42> the king must die !!!!
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:20] <mrayzenoss> the system. The easiest way to get to a device is via the Device List link from the left navigation
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:22] <mrayzenoss> menu. The Device List table provides a full list of the devices in your infrastructure (discovered or
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:23] <mrayzenoss> added) within the Zenoss Core system and some basic information about them.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:28] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-1 Zenoss Device List
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:30] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:34] <mrayzenoss> Clicking a device name in the Device Id column will take you to the Status page for the device
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:36] <mrayzenoss> selected.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:38] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:40] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-2 Device Status page
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:42] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:44] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 16 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:46] <mrayzenoss> You can also perform a quick search for a device using the Device/IP Search field located in the
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:48] <mrayzenoss> top right corner of the Zenoss window.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:50] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:52] <mrayzenoss> 5.2 Viewing Your Events
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:54] <mrayzenoss> You can also view events occurring in the IT environment by navigating to the Zenoss Event
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:55] <cgibbons> well, only 5 more pages to go
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:56] <mrayzenoss> Console. To open the Event Console, from the left navigation menu, click Events Console
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:58] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:03] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-3 Zenoss Event Console
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:06] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:07] <mrayzenoss> The Event Console provides a list of active events occurring within an IT infrastructure. You can
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:09] <mrayzenoss> use the Zenoss Event Management Console to:
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:12] <mrayzenoss> ? drill in and view details of events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:14] <mrayzenoss> ? acknowledge events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:16] <mrayzenoss> ? configure basic and advanced notification policies
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:18] <mrayzenoss> ? update event troubleshooting logs
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:20] <mrayzenoss> ? classify and correlate events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:21] <mrayzenoss> ? archive events into a historical database
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:25] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:28] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 17 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:30] <mrayzenoss> 5.3 Viewing Reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:34] <mrayzenoss> You can also use Zenoss to generate predefined and custom reports by clicking Reports from
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:36] <mrayzenoss> the left navigation menu. Zenoss pre-defined reports provide users with industry standard reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:38] <mrayzenoss> to measure network health statistics and SLAs across their environment.
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:40] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:44] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-4 Zenoss Reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:45] <mrayzenoss> 5.4 Custom Monitoring
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:48] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss is capable of performing custom collections ?ZenCommand? feature leveraging multiple
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:49] <mrayzenoss> protocols such as SSH and XML-RPC. You can perform custom monitoring by executing custom
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:51] <mrayzenoss> scripts locally on the Zenoss box as well as executing custom reports remotely on a target device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:53] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss can also Zenoss plugins ZenPacks) as well as external plugins to perform custom
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:56] <mrayzenoss> collections for your monitoring needs. For more details, please see the Zenoss Administrator
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:58] <mrayzenoss> Guide.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:04] <mrayzenoss> 5.4.1 Adding a Community ZenPack
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:06] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss certified community ZenPacks are available for custom monitoring on Zenoss Core.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:08] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to install a community ZenPack on your Zenoss instance. In this
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:10] <mrayzenoss> exercise, we will describe the steps in adding the HTTPMonitor community ZenPack
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:12] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the server where you are running your Zenoss instance, download the HttpMonitor
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:14] <mrayzenoss> ZenPack from:
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:16] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/download/zenpacks/HttpMonitor.zip
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:18] <mrayzenoss> 2. On the Zenoss server, navigate to the folder where you downloaded the zenpack.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:20] <mrayzenoss> 3. While logged into the server as the zenoss user, execute the command below to install
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:22] <mrayzenoss> the Zenpack. (Note that the xxx is used as the filename in this example.)
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:26] <mrayzenoss> zenossserver ~# zenpack run ?install HttpMonitor.zip
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:27] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:30] <mrayzenoss> 4. To create some data sources for custom monitoring, please refer to the Zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:34] <mrayzenoss> Administration Guide.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:36] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:38] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 18 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:39] <mrayzenoss> 6 Managing Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:43] <mrayzenoss> 6.1 Adding Zenoss Users
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:45] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss allows you to create user accounts and define their roles within the Zenoss system.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:47] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss also performs change tracking functions and you can define advanced notification and
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:50] <mrayzenoss> alerting rules for users.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:52] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.1 Adding a Zenoss User
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:54] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to create a new user in the Zenoss system.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:56] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Settings.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:58] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the Users tab to show the User Folder list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:00] <mrayzenoss> 3. Click the drop-down table menu of the User Folder, and select ?Add New User?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:06] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:08] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-1 Adding a New User
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:09] <mrayzenoss> 4. In the ?Username? field, enter a new user name, and add the user?s email address to the
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:11] <mrayzenoss> ?Email? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:14] <mrayzenoss> 5. Click the ?OK button to save the new user profile.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:16] <mrayzenoss> 6. From the User Folder table, click the user link at the ?UserId? column for additional
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:18] <mrayzenoss> configuration.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:20] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:22] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-2 Configuring a User
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:23] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:26] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 19 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:28] <mrayzenoss> 7. From the Edit tab, in the ?Password? fields, enter a password (twice)for this user to use
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:29] <mrayzenoss> user password.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:34] <mrayzenoss> 8. From the the ?Roles? selection box, select the role for this user.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:36] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:38] <mrayzenoss> Note: User names should be in all lowercase and not contain any spaces..
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:40] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:42] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.2 Creating an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to create an alerting rule for a user within Zenoss.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:46] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the User Folder table, click the user link at the ?UserId? column that you want to
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:48] <mrayzenoss> configure
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:49] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the Alerting Rules tab to show the Alerting Rules list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:52] <mrayzenoss> 3. Click the drop-down table menu for the Alerting Rules table and select ?Add New User.?
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:54] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:56] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:58] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-3 Creating an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:04] <mrayzenoss> 4. In the ?ID? field, enter a name for the new rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:06] <mrayzenoss> 5. Click the ?OK button to save the new alerting rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:08] <mrayzenoss> 6. From the Alerting Rule table, click the name of the rule you just created to add additional
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:09] <mrayzenoss> information and definition to this rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:11] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:14] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:16] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-4 Configuring an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:18] <mrayzenoss> 7. From the Edit tab, change the ?Enabled? drop down menu to True.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:20] <mrayzenoss> 8. Select the mode of notification for this rule from the ?Action? drop down menu (email or
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:22] <mrayzenoss> page).
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:24] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:25] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 20 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:28] <mrayzenoss> 9. Modify or add to the ?Where? drop down menus to create a filter for the notifications to be
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:30] <mrayzenoss> sent to the user. The default conditions of this where clause send an alert any time an
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:33] <mrayzenoss> event of severity greater than error is generated from the system. You can make this rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:36] <mrayzenoss> as broad or as narrow as necessary using the Where clauses defined here.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:40] <cgibbons> almost done
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:52] <cgibbons> yay
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:09] <magnachef> woohoo!
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:10] <mrayzenoss> I am so sorry
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:11] <cgibbons> matt, the spammer
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:23] <cgibbons> at least it made me read the manual for the first time
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:35] <magnachef> speed reading it ;-)
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:55] <magnachef> no worries...
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:09] <DGitz42> I didn't get to ask my question because of hte flood..
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:17] <DGitz42> is time to go home for me
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:19] <magnachef> ask away
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:33] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:47] <DGitz42> I will do it tomorrow..no time left
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:59] <magnachef> we'll be here tomorrow
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:09] <DGitz42> thanks
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:25] <mrayzenoss> send me an email about it at mray@zenoss.com and I'll get back to you
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:32] <mrayzenoss> DGitz42: that was for you
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:35] <mrayzenoss> sorry again
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:39] * mrayzenoss face is red
[21-Apr-2008 20:57:51] <garnica> so the main programming base of zenoss is python ?
[21-Apr-2008 20:59:58] <magnachef> yes
[21-Apr-2008 21:00:06] <magnachef> and they use Zope as their framework
[21-Apr-2008 21:04:13] <garnica> ok... so if I would like to customize a portlet for example, I should dive inside the code and understand it to latter modify it .....
[21-Apr-2008 21:15:13] <magnachef> yeah, you need to do it through the Zope framework
[21-Apr-2008 21:15:27] <magnachef> so there are ways to get in there and make the changes
[21-Apr-2008 21:45:26] <wmirc> sudo crontab mangachef
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[22-Apr-2008 11:58:25] <DGitz42> .
[22-Apr-2008 11:58:47] <b52laptop> ..
[22-Apr-2008 12:15:31] <pablo26> hi all
[22-Apr-2008 12:17:18] <pablo26> since i installed zenoss 2.1.3 i have an error: zenperfsmnp heartbeat failure, i think zenperfsnmp is working i still have performance graphs of everything, how do i clear this?
[22-Apr-2008 12:20:45] <nemo__> eventmanager->clear heart eats
[22-Apr-2008 12:20:48] <nemo__> beats*
[22-Apr-2008 12:30:43] <pablo26> thanks!
[22-Apr-2008 12:32:51] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[22-Apr-2008 12:33:22] <DGitz42> I am fairly new to snmp and I have a long way to go
[22-Apr-2008 12:33:47] <DGitz42> Currently I am running the VMware applaince ver 2.0.91
[22-Apr-2008 12:35:33] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows Server in the PERF tab, I have boxes of Perf monitors, some working some don't
[22-Apr-2008 12:36:55] <DGitz42> but also added a zenpack from James C Dastrup WMI PerfoMon and they work really nice..
[22-Apr-2008 12:37:09] <DGitz42> how do I get rid of the one installed by default?
[22-Apr-2008 12:50:04] <pablo26> DGitz42 did u install snmp-informant on the windows servers?
[22-Apr-2008 12:53:48] <DGitz42> Does it have to be installed in all of the servers?
[22-Apr-2008 12:54:39] <DGitz42> is that the SNMP Informant standard?
[22-Apr-2008 12:59:30] <DGitz42> yes it is installed..
[22-Apr-2008 13:03:19] <DGitz42> Do I have to install the MIB of snmp-informant into Zenoss
[22-Apr-2008 13:09:54] <DGitz42> goshh...I could hear myself breath inhere..
[22-Apr-2008 13:13:23] <pablo26> no DGitz42 zenoss template is for snmp-informant
[22-Apr-2008 13:13:49] <DGitz42> explain yourself, please
[22-Apr-2008 13:15:17] <pablo26> bye default the mib used by zenoss works perfect with snmp-informant
[22-Apr-2008 13:15:42] <DGitz42> How do I get rid of the original perfmon boxes?
[22-Apr-2008 13:16:02] <DGitz42> rather...stat graphs...
[22-Apr-2008 13:16:55] <DGitz42> Pablo eres un user or tech support?
[22-Apr-2008 13:19:24] <pablo26> just a user DGitz42
[22-Apr-2008 13:21:13] <DGitz42> Pablo, I had added a mib for one of my Cisco switches, it is the one to write configurations to it remotely, ok....so now that my MIB is succesfully installed, what is the next step.....can you help?
[22-Apr-2008 13:21:42] <pablo26> to add a windows server, just configure snmp (community name and allowed ips), install snmp-informant and on zenoos choose the device class /server/windows
[22-Apr-2008 13:22:12] <DGitz42> All of that has been done..
[22-Apr-2008 13:22:52] <DGitz42> and I am able to collect tond of info..
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:28] <DGitz42> my servers are located on the class server/windows, is that what you menat/
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:34] <DGitz42> my servers are located on the class server/windows, is that what you meant?
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:49] <pablo26> yes DGitz42
[22-Apr-2008 13:26:08] <pablo26> that should be enought to collect performance graphs like cpu, memory and disk
[22-Apr-2008 13:27:18] <DGitz42> do you have any input on the cisco mib question...after I installed the Mib I quite dio not understand what to do next..
[22-Apr-2008 13:28:21] <pablo26> i just added a couple of counters in my routers but not very much
[22-Apr-2008 13:30:46] <DGitz42> I see..
[22-Apr-2008 13:31:02] <DGitz42> What are you using Zenoss mainly for?
[22-Apr-2008 13:33:29] <pablo26> i use it as a monitoring, but just internal i cant move it to proudction because of the lack of dependencies
[22-Apr-2008 13:38:00] <DGitz42> yeah, that could be a problem for me too..
[22-Apr-2008 13:38:31] <DGitz42> the thing also is that you have to get familiar with Python...
[22-Apr-2008 13:40:29] <pablo26> no, i'm not and i was able to set up everything
[22-Apr-2008 13:44:28] <DGitz42> What can you tell me about this error: Wmi communication failure during connect
[22-Apr-2008 13:45:46] <pablo26> on zproperties of the device or the device class u can tell it to ignore wmi errors if u dont plan to use it
[22-Apr-2008 13:47:36] <DGitz42> I was planing to use it, as it has lots of collectable info..
[22-Apr-2008 13:48:53] <pablo26> ok, so at the same place u need to set up username and password
[22-Apr-2008 13:50:10] <DGitz42> I just did...I am waiting a few minutes to see if that the issue..
[22-Apr-2008 13:50:28] <DGitz42> Could you help me setup an oids?
[22-Apr-2008 13:56:18] <pablo26> there is a guide somewhere
[22-Apr-2008 13:57:46] <DGitz42> I just don't quite understand the sequence of event to set them up..
[22-Apr-2008 13:58:14] <DGitz42> I just started to learn SNMP this week...I am a total newbie
[22-Apr-2008 13:58:38] <pablo26> that was the most complicated part for me
[22-Apr-2008 14:11:19] <jp10558> Does anyone know if you can have graphs actually be just the points passed?
[22-Apr-2008 14:11:35] <jp10558> it seems to take a value of, say, 3 and then put in 2.67...
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:45] <DGitz42> \its pretty lonely here..
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:52] <nemo__> where?
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:56] <nemo__> non snmp land?
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:02] <nemo__> google will be your friend ;p
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:03] <DGitz42> I have been waiting for some help myself
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:11] <adytum-bot> http://gettherhythm.com/c/coco_lee/i_will_be_your_friend.html
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:30] <DGitz42> I think I heard that before...recently
[22-Apr-2008 14:14:46] <garnica> what's up people !
[22-Apr-2008 14:15:40] <DGitz42> Zup!!!
[22-Apr-2008 14:18:21] <garnica> When I go to the 'Event Console' there is a button 'Start' and next to it '60' what is that for ?
[22-Apr-2008 14:18:36] <nemo__> ajax reload
[22-Apr-2008 14:21:37] <garnica> ok.... meaning ?
[22-Apr-2008 14:23:11] <nemo__> read the manual if your not happy my responses
[22-Apr-2008 14:25:44] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows servers I get : Wmi communication failure during connect, it communicates fine with others..
[22-Apr-2008 14:29:53] <DGitz42> ackward..!!
[22-Apr-2008 14:44:44] <Bulwinkle> garnica: start means start reloading the event page automatically, the 60 is the seconds to wait before each reload
[22-Apr-2008 14:44:44] <Bulwinkle>
[22-Apr-2008 14:45:16] <garnica> thanks ! simple !
[22-Apr-2008 14:46:07] <Bulwinkle> garnica: althoug the manual is a really great starting place
[22-Apr-2008 14:49:46] <garnica> there is an auto-recovery feature in Zenoss, when you run it, what is it really doing ?? is it ping ?? is it snmp request ?? is it telnet or ssh ??
[22-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <nemo__> teehee Bulwinkle , you not gonna answer this one?
[22-Apr-2008 14:51:12] <nemo__> RTFM all the way, foot to the floor
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:03] <Bulwinkle> garnica: what version
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:24] <garnica> Zenoss 2.1.3
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:32] <garnica> maybe nmap .....
[22-Apr-2008 14:54:31] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows servers I get : Wmi communication failure during connect, it communicates fine with others..
[22-Apr-2008 14:54:47] <Bulwinkle> DGitz42: that happens sometimes
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:13] <DGitz42> thanks
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:34] <Bulwinkle> garnica: I don't see auto-recovery anywhere in the manual
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:47] <DGitz42> I had added a mib for one of my Cisco switches, it is the one to write configurations to it remotely, ok....so now that my MIB is succesfully installed, what is the next step.....can you help?
[22-Apr-2008 14:56:16] <DGitz42> I am confused as I do not know what the next logical srep is..
[22-Apr-2008 14:56:21] <DGitz42> I am confused as I do not know what the next logical step is..
[22-Apr-2008 14:57:43] <garnica> Bulwinkle: it is on the "Zenoss Admin Guide" Chapter 9 Page 47
[22-Apr-2008 14:58:10] <Bulwinkle> garnica: read it.... does it not answer your question?
[22-Apr-2008 14:59:13] <DGitz42> let me check it out again..
[22-Apr-2008 15:00:23] <garnica> Bulwinkle: it is not so simple to me.... why to have a zenping command instead of the common ping command ??
[22-Apr-2008 15:00:56] <Bulwinkle> garnica: because zenping is a ping that zenoss uses....
[22-Apr-2008 15:02:01] <Bulwinkle> garnica: btw it is auto-Discovery not auto-Recovery....
[22-Apr-2008 15:02:05] <Bulwinkle> zees
[22-Apr-2008 15:03:40] <Bulwinkle> I've got a general comment/suggestion to make. If you have trouble understanding the manual, maybe ZenOSS isn't for you. If you're looking for something to run without any effort in making it work for you, ZenOSS isn't for you. Just my opinion
[22-Apr-2008 16:34:54] <leitgebj> Hi folks. Does anyone know if it is a bad idea to use snmp over the internet? It seems like snmp3 should be reasonably secure, but I don't know if the queries that zenoss makes are going to consume too much bandwidth. Ideas?
[22-Apr-2008 16:35:18] <leitgebj> We have machines in two different colocation centers, and I would like to only have one zenoss instance on a dedicated machine if possible.
[22-Apr-2008 17:48:27] <magnachef> SNMP traffic will not use up that much bandwidth
[22-Apr-2008 17:49:27] <magnachef> ...and I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, if it's the only way that you can do it. I'd try to get a VPN setup, or some other type of secured link between sites
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:40] <Mark`> i just use v2
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:44] <Mark`> and i use it across the internet
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:51] <Mark`> nothing super critical going on the wire
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:58] <Mark`> and everything is ip restricted and read only
[22-Apr-2008 17:53:54] <Exeetimg> What version of SNMP would be the one used in Zproperties....?
[22-Apr-2008 17:59:41] <magnachef> what version would be used for using v2?
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:13] <Mark`> v2 is version 2
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:31] <Mark`> anyway zenoss doesnt support v3 yet completely
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:32] <Mark`> afaik
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:35] <Exeetimg> There are 3 versions as we know, my question which one to use that backwards compatibility?
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:39] <Exeetimg> that is all
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:43] <Mark`> and a lot of the crap i have to monitor
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:46] <Mark`> only supports v2
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:55] <Mark`> so i just use v2 and write careful firewall rules
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:56] <Exeetimg> I see
[22-Apr-2008 18:01:20] <Mark`> i have snmp only listen on specific interfaces, use a different community name than public
[22-Apr-2008 18:01:29] <Mark`> restrict by ip address to the zenoss server
[22-Apr-2008 18:09:23] <cgibbons> hmmm
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:22] <wassy121> Hello, has anyone here had "good happy success" with configuring zenoss for LDAP authentication?
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:47] <Mark`> no
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:54] <Mark`> figured id say that so you didnt think it was a ghost town
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:56] <Exeetimg> not ovaheer !!
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:08] <wassy121> I am pretty close, but http://$SERVER/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/manageUserFolder is now throwing errors.
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:32] <wassy121> I got the actual auth going, but can't get group mapping proper :-/
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:35] <magnachef> I thought ldap was for the paid version only? Is that incorrect?
[22-Apr-2008 19:13:31] <wassy121> Ah, we have the enterprise edition.
[22-Apr-2008 19:13:44] <magnachef> how fancey ;-)
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:04] <wassy121> I guess I could email support and get "the zenoss answer", but thought someone might be in here with real experience.
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:10] <magnachef> yeah, I'm working off the poor man's version
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:39] <Free_the_Mallocs> is the so-called "poor man's version" worth the time and effort?
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:49] <magnachef> I think so
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:58] <magnachef> You will need to put in time and effort
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:03] <Free_the_Mallocs> which is fine
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:05] <magnachef> but it's definitely worth it
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> I have had previous experience with so-called community opensource and commercial opensource where the free version is so crippled that its unusuable
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:28] <magnachef> question is whether you want something (like ldap) that isn't available in the free version
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:59] <magnachef> I've been working with it for a couple months now, and I haven't run into that issue
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:01] <mrayzenoss> I can assure you we're not crippling the Core version, but if there's a feature you think isn't good enough, let me know
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:14] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> mrayzenoss, thank you for that.
[22-Apr-2008 19:17:17] <Free_the_Mallocs> are there plans to release distribution specific packages at some point?
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:17] <Exeetimg> I definetily hate this error:
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:17] <mrayzenoss> yes
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:22] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:33] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: we're testing binary installers right now
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:47] <mrayzenoss> for Ubuntu/Debian, Solaris and OSX
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:01] <mrayzenoss> in addition to the RPM ones
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:18] <mrayzenoss> and eventually get into the distributions proper
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> that would be very helpful for many people
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:41] <mrayzenoss> yeah, source installs are painful
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:54] <mrayzenoss> but they build character
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:00] <Free_the_Mallocs> *smirk*
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:30] <wassy121> mrayzenoss: You should be running a yum repository so auto-updates and check-update scripts can function.
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:39] <wassy121>
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:47] <wassy121> Unless you do already.
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:23] <mrayzenoss> wassy121: I've added that to my sizable todo list
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:52] <Free_the_Mallocs> my todo list is restricted exclusively to blondes these days. . .
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:55] <Free_the_Mallocs> much more manageable
[22-Apr-2008 19:22:40] <wassy121> Fabio is a good dude.
[22-Apr-2008 19:22:51] <magnachef> seems like a rough list to me
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:21] <Free_the_Mallocs> actually, I should clarify by saying that its restricted to blonde aussie women. .
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:46] <Exeetimg> any thoughts on my error?
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:49] * magnachef is not familiar with too many of those
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:52] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[22-Apr-2008 19:24:10] <Free_the_Mallocs> Exeetimg, what's your /etc/hosts file look like?
[22-Apr-2008 19:24:34] <Exeetimg> I will show you in a second...BRB
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:09] <mrayzenoss> Exeetimg: that looks like this: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18597
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - sendto error Host xxxx and xxxx.yyyy.zzzz.net using same ip? (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:27] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost localhost
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:32] <Exeetimg> that is it..
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:20] <Free_the_Mallocs> how ever did you manage to get a hosts file like that?
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:22] <Free_the_Mallocs> change that line to
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:23] <Exeetimg> so it should look like this:
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:23] <Free_the_Mallocs> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:30] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
[22-Apr-2008 19:29:29] <Exeetimg> sorry, it should look as what Free_the_Mallocs said?
[22-Apr-2008 19:31:20] <magnachef> yes
[22-Apr-2008 19:32:44] <Exeetimg> thank you..I am restarting the network now..
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:15] <Exeetimg> When I hist Device List, it just sits there spining, I have to refresh the page for the devices to show up, sometimes half of the list shows up only...
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:44] <magnachef> what are your server specs?
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:56] <magnachef> zope can be a resource hog
[22-Apr-2008 19:41:19] <magnachef> sometimes I'll click on a tab or something, and it'll take like 30 seconds to load, and then be fine
[22-Apr-2008 19:41:46] <magnachef> but I have dedicated server with plenty of resources
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:22] <Exeetimg> it a 4 gig mem, 2gig intel proc...on a desktop machine, I am only managing 150 devices right now
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:31] <wassy121> magnachef: Will it take "about" 30 seconds, or "exactly" 30 seconds each time?
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:49] <wassy121> Sometimes a 30-second timeout means a DNS problem.
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:03] <Exeetimg> I guess I could spare the 30 seconds..
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:05] <magnachef> about 30 sec...generally when I'm clicking on the edit tab
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:14] <magnachef> well, I only use IP's and not DNS
[22-Apr-2008 19:50:51] <idea4gud> hi guys: I had a terrible thing my system crashed and had to reinstall OS as well as Zenoss from scratch
[22-Apr-2008 19:51:13] <idea4gud> so it there anyway i can do like backup and minimize the damage
[22-Apr-2008 19:53:38] <Exeetimg> where are the mibs installed in FC8?
[22-Apr-2008 19:53:39] <magnachef> what about zenback
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:40] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5320
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:46] <magnachef> it's mentioned here
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - HELP! Zenoss stopped working after reboot. (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Apr-2008 19:56:51] <Exeetimg> where are the mibs installed in Fedora Core 8?
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:11] <Exeetimg> there is no /usr/share/mibs directory
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:33] <magnachef> dunno...maybe check with google
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:56] <magnachef> they may have them in some odd location, or maybe the MIBs were not installed by default
[22-Apr-2008 19:58:14] <mrayzenoss> perhaps use locate to find them?
[22-Apr-2008 19:58:32] <mrayzenoss> or "find . | grep -i mib" from the root?
[22-Apr-2008 20:00:20] <Exeetimg> thanks
[22-Apr-2008 20:03:04] <Exeetimg> do you after I load the mib for a cisco switch, what is my next logicla step?
[22-Apr-2008 20:03:59] <Exeetimg> I meant logical...
[22-Apr-2008 20:04:24] <Exeetimg> do you know after I loaded the mib for a cisco switch, what is my next logical step?
[22-Apr-2008 20:04:35] <Exeetimg> yes, I am new to SNMP....
[22-Apr-2008 20:07:53] <magnachef> you loaded it to Zenoss?
[22-Apr-2008 20:08:22] <Exeetimg> yes I loaded the mib using zenmib run ........
[22-Apr-2008 20:08:51] <magnachef> then you just need to have those cisco devices send traps to your zenoss server
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:05] <magnachef> and obviously, make sure that the device has been added
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:17] <Exeetimg> so I have to go to my cisco switches via console??
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:26] <Exeetimg> it is added..
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <Exeetimg> how do you send a trap?
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:56] <magnachef> from the router?
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:06] <magnachef> (or switch)
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:26] <Exeetimg> from the switch...I guess is there way for the switch to send the ptrap..?
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:39] <magnachef> you can do an auth failure
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:51] <magnachef> those will send an auth failure trap
[22-Apr-2008 20:11:18] <magnachef> not sure if there's a way to send a test trap, but you should see some stuff coming into your event console
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:27] <idea4gud> magna: Did you see my query
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:40] <Exeetimg> thanks..got to put out a fire now...whoohoo
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:51] <Exeetimg> put out a fire a meant..
[22-Apr-2008 20:15:41] <magnachef> I did not get your message
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:08] <idea4gud> my system crashed and i had to reinstall OS as well as zenoss
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:27] <magnachef> oh, yeah, I saw that
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:29] <idea4gud> so is there any way i can backup and keep damage min
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:41] <magnachef> I recommended looking at zenback and sent you a link
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:48] <idea4gud> k
[22-Apr-2008 20:27:55] <zaf> is there a good way to test zenwin?
[22-Apr-2008 20:52:38] <XenophonF> is anyone working on a FreeBSD port of Zenoss?
[22-Apr-2008 20:59:45] <mrayzenoss> XenophonF: it's only supported right now by source installs
[22-Apr-2008 21:00:25] <mrayzenoss> oops, I think I missed him
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[23-Apr-2008 06:04:38] <cappy2> wassup folks
[23-Apr-2008 06:05:36] <cappy2> how do you rebuild the device list page?
[23-Apr-2008 06:05:45] <cappy2> it's not updating and a restart of the service doesn't really help
[23-Apr-2008 10:06:01] <mzolisi> Hi
[23-Apr-2008 10:06:28] <mzolisi> Question: How do I monitor the UP/Down Status of interfaces in Zenoss
[23-Apr-2008 12:18:58] <mzolisi> Hello>
[23-Apr-2008 12:19:06] <mzolisi> Question: How do I monitor the UP/Down Status of interfaces in Zenoss?
[23-Apr-2008 12:19:55] <mzolisi> ..on a router
[23-Apr-2008 12:34:34] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: you probably want to use the Nagios plugins
[23-Apr-2008 12:36:53] <Bulwinkle> I did that a way back but I've forgotten how, you can probably find it in the documentation or on the forums
[23-Apr-2008 12:54:41] <mzolisi> OK, I'll try that . Thanks Bulwinkle
[23-Apr-2008 12:55:17] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: let me know if you find any docs on how to do that
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:16] <zenops> I installed a CISCO-SYSLOG.mib, then I went to the /MIBS/CISCO-SYSLOG/ screen, and do not see any new information...
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:39] <zenops> I see two tabs: OID Mappings and Traps....
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:59] <zenops> What am I supposed to do now to start collecting data?
[23-Apr-2008 14:14:23] <Bulwinkle> zenops: point your devices snmp traps to your zenoss server
[23-Apr-2008 14:20:04] <zenops> so is this done on in my cisco switch?
[23-Apr-2008 14:21:37] <zenops> What do I use OID Mappings in that tab?
[23-Apr-2008 14:26:05] <Bulwinkle> zenops: yes on your cisco switch... the OID mappings make it so that the events collected by the zenoss server are readable
[23-Apr-2008 14:28:17] <zenops> so I am getting nothing, and this is what I got from snmpwalk:
[23-Apr-2008 14:28:21] <zenops> Command: snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:00] <zenops> Output:
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:37] <zenops> snmpwalk -v1 -cg00fy 10.25.8.8 system
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:48] <nemo__> somethings not right then
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:59] <nemo__> walk before you can run, teehee
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:03] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Cisco IOS Software, C3750 Software (C3750-IPBASEK9-M), Version 12.2(40)SE, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:29] <zenops> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:58] <zenops> Compiled Fri 24-Aug-07 00:53 by myl
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:06] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9.1.516
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:21] <zenops> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (405564753) 46 days, 22:34:07.53
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:40] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysContact.0 = STRING: ODJFS Testlab 614.387.8219
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:01] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysName.0 = STRING: tl-labsw6.tl.odjfs.state.oh.us
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:16] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysLocation.0 = STRING: 4200 E 5th Ave (Testlab Floor SE), Columbus, OH
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:27] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysServices.0 = INTEGER: 6
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:39] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysORLastChange.0 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:54] <zenops> DONE in 0 seconds on 1 targets
[23-Apr-2008 14:33:15] <zenops> that is it...I do not have an explanation for the smulies..
[23-Apr-2008 14:33:27] <zenops> that is it...I do not have an explanation for the smilies..
[23-Apr-2008 14:34:32] <Bulwinkle> smilies?
[23-Apr-2008 14:36:04] <Bulwinkle> zenops: the zenoss mibs have nothing to do with a snmpwalk
[23-Apr-2008 14:36:49] <zenops> ok, what do you thins is wrong?
[23-Apr-2008 14:37:48] <Bulwinkle> what are you trying to accomplish?
[23-Apr-2008 14:39:36] <zenops> I amd trying to collect SYSLOG info from a switch, I already loaded the CISCO-SYSLOG.mib and also enable a trap to de sent from the switch to my management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:22] <Bulwinkle> traps and syslogs are two totally different things....
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:36] <zenops> I amd trying to collect SYSLOG info from a switch, I already loaded the CISCO-SYSLOG.mib and also enable a trap to be sent from the switch to my management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:44] <Bulwinkle> if you don't know the difference then you probably shouldn't be managing a network
[23-Apr-2008 14:41:43] <zenops> I am new to SNMP but I do have an extensive experience in networking, so I got game
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:14] <zenops> iI just want to know how to at least one mib, the rest will follow
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:30] <zenops> iI just want to know how to load at least one mib, the rest will follow
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:31] <Bulwinkle> at least one mib what?
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:39] <Bulwinkle> you already did
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:53] <Bulwinkle> zenops: rtfm
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:58] <Bulwinkle> jeez....
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:07] <zenops> but now, I just don't seem to be getting any information..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:19] <zenops> what is my next logical step..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:37] <Bulwinkle> zenops: are you looking for SNMP or SYSLOG information?
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:39] <zenops> Dude..don't get angry..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:45] <Bulwinkle> are all of you daemons running
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:12] <Bulwinkle> don't come in here and expect people to teach you the difference between syslog and SNMP
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:25] <zenops> only ZENJMX is not running
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:32] <cgibbons> hmm
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:39] <_chris_> that daemon is worthless anyway ;-)
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:41] <zenops> are an OP or a user?
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:45] <Bulwinkle> OP?
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:58] <zenops> channel op
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:24] <zenops> I do not expect anything from anyone..
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:29] <Bulwinkle> look to the userlist and see for yourself, or do I have to teach you about IRC too
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:43] <zenops> if you do not want to have a conversation then avoided..
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:54] <zenops> wow !
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:59] <cgibbons> awesome
[23-Apr-2008 14:46:11] <Bulwinkle> zenops: I really want to help you but you should help yourself by knowing what you are talking about
[23-Apr-2008 14:46:58] <Bulwinkle> ask anyone here, I'm always willing to help when someone knows what they are doing or what they want ZenOSS to do for them
[23-Apr-2008 14:47:08] <Bulwinkle> the manual is really a great starting place.
[23-Apr-2008 14:47:27] <zenops> Thank you Bullwinkle...
[23-Apr-2008 14:49:29] <Bulwinkle> zenops: any time
[23-Apr-2008 14:49:54] <mrayzenoss> I came in a little late zenops, which version are you running?
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:09] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: are you THE Ian?
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:17] <_chris_> he is the one of lore
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:21] <Bulwinkle> hahah
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:01] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: thanks for fixing my mapping problems
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:18] <__ian__> thanks for finding them.
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:35] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: job security is wonderful
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:39] <Bulwinkle> BBIAB
[23-Apr-2008 14:54:01] explosiv0SX is now known as rak
[23-Apr-2008 14:55:41] <nemo__> hmmmz
[23-Apr-2008 14:56:24] <zenops> hey..
[23-Apr-2008 14:56:43] <zenops> ver. .91
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:11] <nemo__> ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:18] <nemo__> still struggling with syslog ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:48] <zenops> Zenoss 2.1.91
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:00] <nemo__> when 2.1.3 is out ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:04] <zenops> yes... I am trying to understand it
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:05] <nemo__> upgrade to the latest surely
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:33] <nemo__> silly me
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:36] <nemo__> i am tired ;0
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:54] <mrayzenoss> nemo__: 2.2 is slated for 5/1
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:58] <zenops> I loaded a syslog mib and now I am assuming I should be able to view that info, I also enable traps on my switch to sent to my Management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:10] <nemo__> zenops
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:15] <nemo__> traps do less and less i heard
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:36] <nemo__> manufacturers are tagging info on to the ends of oids
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:40] <nemo__> and not using mibs
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:44] <nemo__> thats what i heard
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:02] <nemo__> i was hoping i could load a mib and forget about it too
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:10] <zenops> can you help setup an oids there
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:18] <nemo__> mibs do less and less i should say
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:28] <zenops> ok..
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:30] <nemo__> zenops , i didnt do any by hand sorry
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:35] <nemo__> were in the same boat there e
[23-Apr-2008 15:01:00] <zenops> I am just trying to understand the loading part and what follows..
[23-Apr-2008 15:01:59] <zenops> I will sit idle here until someone willingly will help me..\
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:07] <nemo__> thats maybe not the solution
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:25] <nemo__> with due respect, read the forums, i have posted a couple of times and got some good replies
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:44] <nemo__> should help you get an understanding, but you cant demand answers here
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:01] <nemo__> if ppl help out here, its your good luck, not a right ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:10] <zenops> I am not demanding..
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:14] <nemo__> thanks mr rayzenoss
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:45] <zenops> I have been to many chats channels in my life and some people just help..no questions asked..
[23-Apr-2008 15:05:22] <zenops> I do not solicit info by force..
[23-Apr-2008 15:05:53] <zenops> I just throw the question out there and if someone wants to ansewr then great
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:05] <mrayzenoss> zenops: Everyone tries to assist when they can, the forums are nice because they're not time-sensitive.
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:27] <mrayzenoss> and more Zenoss developers pay attention to the forums than IRC
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:48] <mrayzenoss> so don't get discouraged if IRC isn't working for you
[23-Apr-2008 15:18:55] <nemo__> zenops , not saying your being too pushy
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:13] <nemo__> i was refering to: zenops> I will sit idle here until someone willingly will help me..\
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:28] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: I've got one of my co-workers in class this week
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:34] <nemo__> i was kinda saying, well its no one elses job to solve your stuff, DIY
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:16] <__ian__> Bulwinkle: in class == here for training?
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:23] <Bulwinkle> nemo__: that guy doesn't know what help is
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:47] <nemo__> i try to be helpful, despite my rep ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:06] <nemo__> but i dont do other ppl's work,. i share what i know with others who help too
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:13] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: yeah... I'm sure he's beating Chet up. He's the last holder on to our Nagios infrastructure
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:25] <nemo__> poor chet ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:43] <Bulwinkle> hahah... I'M even more helpful than nemo__
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:44] <Bulwinkle>
[23-Apr-2008 15:22:10] <nemo__> i got my zenoss tshirt on, no wonder ppl come to me here ( at work )
[23-Apr-2008 15:25:18] <Bulwinkle> zenops: have you decided what you are trying to get zenoss to do yet?
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:42] <baumer1122> i moved my zenoss virtual machine to a new server and i've been seeing lots of heartbeat failures
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:44] <baumer1122> http://www.steamboathomesonline.com.php4-7.websitetestlink.com/steamboat-mls-search.html
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:48] <baumer1122> oops
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:52] <baumer1122> clipboard
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:58] <adytum-bot> Title: MLS Steamboat Real Estate, Buying Homes, Selling Homes, Colorado Property (at www.steamboathomesonline.com.php4-7.websitetestlink.com)
[23-Apr-2008 15:32:12] <baumer1122> localhost.localdomain zenping heartbeat failure
[23-Apr-2008 15:34:13] <zenops> I am getting this error: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 848.43
[23-Apr-2008 15:34:53] <zenops> The actual switch is running at 45%....does anyone knows?
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:27] <Bulwinkle> zenops: what interface is the error showing up on?
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:40] <zenops> all interfaces
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:52] <zenops> on the switch
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:21] <Bulwinkle> all interfaces? unlikely
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:37] <zenops> yes it is weird...
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:37] <Bulwinkle> how many errors do you show in your event log?
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:47] <zenops> every interface has the same message..
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:02] <zenops> the actual switch is under utilized right now
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:24] <zenops> it is over 100 right now
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:34] <Bulwinkle> there is no such thing as an under utilized switch (unless it is powered on and has nothing plugged in to it)
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:52] <zenops> ok...
[23-Apr-2008 15:38:20] <zenops> It is just me trying to complete a sentence...
[23-Apr-2008 15:41:45] <Bulwinkle> zenops: how old are you?
[23-Apr-2008 15:43:36] <zenops> ???
[23-Apr-2008 15:45:47] <zenops> I worked at Intel, Oregon in their labs for 5 years developing and testing 10 GBe network adapters, how old do you think I am?
[23-Apr-2008 15:46:22] <baumer1122> at least 5?
[23-Apr-2008 15:46:29] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: hahahah
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:22] <baumer1122> the localhost.localdomain heartbeat failures i'm seeing appear to be false positives because all the zenoss daemons are up
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:33] <baumer1122> and other events are being logged
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:54] <zenops> excellent !!
[23-Apr-2008 15:52:25] <baumer1122> so any thoughts as to why i'm seeing them in my event log? localhost.localdomain does resolve to 127.0.0.1
[23-Apr-2008 15:52:46] <baumer1122> though that is not the hostname of my zenoss box
[23-Apr-2008 15:53:34] <baumer1122> can i change it to monitor the actual hostname instead of localhost?
[23-Apr-2008 15:55:21] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: there is a way to clear those ... let me try to clear the cobwebs....
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:00] <Bulwinkle> _chris_: do you know where to find that off the top of your head?
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:30] <_chris_> is this the name conflict between "localhost" and "localhost.localdomain" ?
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:37] <_chris_> zenping generates that
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:46] <baumer1122> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16959
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:53] <baumer1122> yeah i found this
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - First start issue, Localhost + Localhost.localdomain (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:18] <baumer1122> i do in fact have localhost & localhost.localdomain mapped to 127.0.0.1
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:42] <baumer1122> should i remove one?
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:43] <Bulwinkle> _chris_: he changed the name of his server and is getting the errant heartbeats
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:49] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: shouldn't need to
[23-Apr-2008 16:02:35] <zenops> your /etc/hosts file has to look like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost
[23-Apr-2008 16:02:58] <zenops> nothing elese should be in thar file..
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:05] <zenops> restart network..
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:33] <baumer1122> i'll try
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:34] <zenops> your error messages will go away
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:55] <zenops> just rem the other statement
[23-Apr-2008 16:04:15] <zenops> nothing else should be in that file..
[23-Apr-2008 16:04:59] <Bulwinkle> hahah....
[23-Apr-2008 16:08:48] <baumer1122> so far so good...
[23-Apr-2008 16:09:40] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: did you clear the events
[23-Apr-2008 16:09:51] <baumer1122> yes
[23-Apr-2008 16:12:06] <baumer1122> yeah, i think that fixed it. thanks zenops
[23-Apr-2008 16:12:48] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: If you change it back to they show up again? just curious
[23-Apr-2008 16:13:38] <baumer1122> checking
[23-Apr-2008 16:14:19] <baumer1122> is ther anyway to force it to check?
[23-Apr-2008 16:14:31] <baumer1122> i'm not sure how often it happens...
[23-Apr-2008 16:16:01] <baumer1122> not seeing it yet
[23-Apr-2008 16:17:03] <zenops> it will not comeback
[23-Apr-2008 16:17:20] <zenops> welcome
[23-Apr-2008 16:34:43] <zenops> ok then..
[23-Apr-2008 16:45:39] <Bulwinkle> it was the clearing of the events not the changing of the /etc/hosts file
[23-Apr-2008 16:54:40] Spec[x] is now known as Spec
[23-Apr-2008 18:51:33] <magnachef> is there a way to add fields to the Device List?
[23-Apr-2008 18:52:28] <magnachef> for example: I want to add the Systems field so that I can view and sort on my various systems
[23-Apr-2008 18:53:07] <magnachef> this will help to ensure that all devices are a part of a Systems class
[23-Apr-2008 19:28:11] <Bulwinkle> magnachef: yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:30:26] <magnachef> cool...how? :-)
[23-Apr-2008 19:31:36] <moe2> anyone here?
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:10] <magnachef> i am
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:15] <moe2> cool
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:18] <moe2> stupid questions
[23-Apr-2008 19:33:05] <moe2> currently i have zenoss running on one of my boxes and is directly cnected to the net
[23-Apr-2008 19:33:26] <moe2> questions is is it safe t haveit out there?
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:08] <magnachef> make sure you have a firewall up and running
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:13] <moe2> i jsut started playing with it and its pretty neat...but i'm not sure where to place it
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:31] <magnachef> behind a firewall, preferrably
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:48] <magnachef> what are you trying to monitor? corporate network? home computers?
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:58] <moe2> no so much corprate
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:11] <moe2> but i do need to monitor a few servers n diff locations
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:34] <magnachef> which you need to go across the net to monitor?
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:53] <moe2> pretty much yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:36:45] <magnachef> ok, well, just have it at your main location on the network, and make sure it has the ability to get out and into your remote sites
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:04] <magnachef> you can do stuff like setting up VPN's to each site, or use SNMP v3
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:43] <moe2> yes i was looking into setting up vpn's but not very familiar on how to do it in linux
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:51] <moe2> i will need to look into snmpv3
[23-Apr-2008 19:38:34] <moe2> right now i'm only playing with test bxes so t sno big deal
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:06] <moe2> thanks
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:31] <magnachef> not sure about how well Zenoss and SNMP v3 play together
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:32] <moe2> wasn't really sure where something like that should be placed
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:36] <magnachef> np
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:42] <moe2> what's teh difference
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:43] <moe2> ?
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:47] <magnachef> anywhere that it can get to the servers you want to monitor
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:01] <magnachef> between snmp v3 and v2c?
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:05] <moe2> yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:14] <moe2> in relation to zenoss
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:28] <magnachef> v3 is encrypted and you need to have a username and password
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:42] <magnachef> as opposed to just having a community string in version 1 and 2c
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:26] <moe2> ah
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:28] <moe2> ok
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:38] <moe2> you just answered my next question
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:46] <moe2> so v is plain text
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:50] <moe2> v2
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:02] <magnachef> yep
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:14] <moe2> so easily sniffed
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:54] <magnachef> yep
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:55] <moe2> looks like i will need to do vpn's
[23-Apr-2008 19:43:09] <magnachef> so you can do vpn's and v2 or v1
[23-Apr-2008 19:44:04] <moe2> thanks again
[23-Apr-2008 19:44:11] <magnachef> np
[23-Apr-2008 19:45:28] <magnachef> ping Bulwinkle
[23-Apr-2008 19:49:56] <Bulwinkle> I'm here
[23-Apr-2008 19:54:58] <magnachef> how do you add the systems field to the device list?
[23-Apr-2008 20:06:17] <Bulwinkle> magnachef: you mean add devices to a system group?
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:10] <magnachef> yeah
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:13] <magnachef> that's all setup
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:28] <Bulwinkle> okay, I guess I don't understand what you want to do
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:52] <magnachef> when I click on "Main Views" -> "Device List" it gives a list of all devices
[23-Apr-2008 20:09:16] <magnachef> one of the fields I want to show is what system group that devices belongs to
[23-Apr-2008 20:10:22] <Bulwinkle> that should be really easy to do but I'm not sure how to... Chet could tell you pretty quickly. Post it on the forums
[23-Apr-2008 20:10:49] <magnachef> yeah, sounds easy, but I can't find it either - It's posted already in zenoss-users forum
[23-Apr-2008 20:50:29] <cgibbons> hurm
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[24-Apr-2008 04:11:51] <_chris_> goodnight, bitches.
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[24-Apr-2008 07:36:47] <mzolisi> Hi I just read, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-monitor-a-software-raid-device/
[24-Apr-2008 07:37:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - How to Monitor a Software RAID device - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Apr-2008 07:37:38] <mzolisi> And I want to use a similar method to monitor the up/down status of intefaces using SNMP OID ifOperStatus
[24-Apr-2008 07:38:26] <mzolisi> But I was wondering if there is a more direct method, that matches exact datasource values, as opposed to using thresholds
[24-Apr-2008 08:11:59] <Mark`> hmm
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:08] <Mark`> i use snmp traps
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:11] <Mark`> as much as possible
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:50] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 08:13:18] <mzolisi> So if want poll and generate events for specific OIDs?
[24-Apr-2008 08:13:59] <Mark`> i guess it depends on a lot of factors
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:15] <Mark`> our dell servers have management software that generates traps for the raid controllers and everything else
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:20] <Mark`> chassis temperature, voltages, etc
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:33] <Mark`> so i dont have to actively monitor them via snmp, i just have zenoss handle the traps
[24-Apr-2008 08:34:19] <mzolisi> Ok. Thanks Mark
[24-Apr-2008 12:16:10] <twm1010> morning
[24-Apr-2008 12:19:33] <DarkMats> evning
[24-Apr-2008 12:19:57] <DarkMats> well... afternoon at least...
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:19] <twm1010> I'm scanning the forums, there was a post or howto a while back, on how to install all the Nagios plugins on Zenoss
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:34] <twm1010> it was just a couple commands it came down to
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:43] <twm1010> but it installed all of them in one swoop
[24-Apr-2008 12:22:41] <mzolisi> I wanna stop Zenoss deduplication, how do I do it
[24-Apr-2008 12:22:43] <mzolisi> ?
[24-Apr-2008 12:23:04] <twm1010> deduplication of what?
[24-Apr-2008 12:23:21] <twm1010> Like how it stacks up common events?
[24-Apr-2008 12:24:59] <mzolisi> Yeah
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:19] <mzolisi> and how it removes them from the stack
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:31] <mzolisi> I want to use Zenoss as a poller
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:42] <twm1010> Not sure you can do that
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:54] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:05] <twm1010> I know they touted it as a feature at one point
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:20] <mzolisi> And forward the events to something like Netcool Omnibus to correlate the evnts
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:21] <mzolisi> e
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:38] <mzolisi> IBM/Tivoli
[24-Apr-2008 12:27:00] <twm1010> I've never had Zenoss forward anything, just end e-mails.
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:06] <twm1010> Ah I see what you're saying
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:20] <twm1010> so like if an interface on a router goes down, and then you see degraded performance somewhere else
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:36] <twm1010> because now another interface is handling 100% of the load?
[24-Apr-2008 13:15:41] <mzolisi> Something like that <twm1010>
[24-Apr-2008 13:27:22] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: I think you can have it send events on the reception of events
[24-Apr-2008 13:27:27] <Bulwinkle> shouldn't be too hard
[24-Apr-2008 13:33:11] <mzolisi> Ok Bulwinkle. So what Zenoss system interface should I try to use this with?
[24-Apr-2008 13:33:22] <mzolisi> i mean, do
[24-Apr-2008 13:34:43] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: sounds like you really need something other than zenoss really....
[24-Apr-2008 13:35:09] <Bulwinkle> you can set a trigger within zenoss to send a syslog message, or snmp trap though
[24-Apr-2008 13:37:11] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 13:38:10] <Bulwinkle> look under the events under classes.... see if you can figure out how to do it from there.
[24-Apr-2008 16:02:25] <cgibbons> hmm
[24-Apr-2008 16:25:22] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: did you find what you were looking for?
[24-Apr-2008 16:29:33] <Bulwinkle> who was looking to add the system to their device views?
[24-Apr-2008 17:07:16] <cappy> where does zenoss store user settings in regards to the portlets?
[24-Apr-2008 17:07:37] <__ian___> In a giant JSON string on the UserSettings object.
[24-Apr-2008 17:08:24] <cappy> hrm the settings for the portlets don't retain the user settings
[24-Apr-2008 17:13:54] <__ian___> Possibly the XMLHttpRequest isn't getting sent properly? If you are using Firefox and have Firebug installed, check the POST to setDashboardState and see if it completes
[24-Apr-2008 17:21:55] <cappy> i'm using IE
[24-Apr-2008 17:24:42] <__ian___> Then you're pretty much out of luck from a debugging standpoint. I just tested in IE7 and it seems to work properly there
[24-Apr-2008 17:26:32] <cappy> i'm just afraid that the install might not have been done properly
[24-Apr-2008 17:28:08] <__ian___> hit this and see what you get: http://yourhost:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/admin/setDashboardState
[24-Apr-2008 17:30:50] <cappy> it says True
[24-Apr-2008 17:33:56] <__ian___> well, then that's certainly setting properly. It doesn't seem like an install problem
[24-Apr-2008 17:34:47] <cappy> i thought it might have been with my user but i created a new one and it still gives the same issue of not keeping the settings properly
[24-Apr-2008 17:36:46] <__ian___> which settings, in particular?
[24-Apr-2008 17:36:55] <__ian___> that is, does it always just revert to the default dashboard?
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:17] <cappy> yeah
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:28] <cappy> the default dashboard contains a production states portlet
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:36] <cappy> it defaults to maintainence status or something
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:53] <cappy> but i'm trying to set it to show only production since that's where all our servers are at
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:25] <__ian___> Have you tried moving a portlet around to see if that saves?
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:43] <cappy> i modify the portlet config, change the status to production and save and when i log out and back in, it reverts back to the original
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:49] <cappy> well even that doesn't work
[24-Apr-2008 17:39:11] <__ian___> what version are you running? Of Zenoss, I mean. And IE.
[24-Apr-2008 17:39:37] <cappy> ie 7 and zenoss 2.1.3
[24-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <__ian___> You've got a pretty weird outlier bug then. You can try turning on script debugging in IE, or you can load up the Firefox to check for bugs, but I can't reproduce that one.
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:19] <cappy> so i need to get sometihng called firebug?
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:44] <__ian___> Firebug is a Firefox add-on that is enormously useful. http://getfirebug.com
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Firebug - Web Development Evolved (at getfirebug.com)
[24-Apr-2008 17:43:29] <cappy> ok it's loaded
[24-Apr-2008 17:43:37] <cappy> what am i looking for?
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:44] <cappy> hrm
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:44] <cappy> odd
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:46] <cappy> now it's working
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:51] <cappy> it's keeping my settings and everything
[24-Apr-2008 17:47:00] <__ian___> IE is a whole lot crankier about minor javascript irregularities, so it will just stop working for no obvious reason if there's a stray comma, for example.
[24-Apr-2008 17:47:35] <__ian___> Although I don't know why that would apply in your case, since the 2.1.3 dashboard in IE7 seems to work for me
[24-Apr-2008 17:48:52] <__ian___> But weird bugs are more commonplace in IE. If you turn on script debugging in Tools > Internet Options > Advanced, you'll be able to see what javascript bug is killing you.
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:02] <__ian___> Typically, though, you'll get better results with Firefox.
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:33] <cappy> i kind of figured that when i tried it on my mac
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:53] <cappy> now if zenoss would just call me or email me about looking at their tomcat zenpacks
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:02] <cappy> so how do you apply a specific zenpack to a group of servers?
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:12] <cappy> are they just available to all servers when they are installed?
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:41] <__ian___> Yes. You'll get templates and things that you can bind like normal.
[24-Apr-2008 17:53:24] <cappy> bind?
[24-Apr-2008 17:55:11] <__ian___> You'll probably want to read through the admin guide for some of these concepts.
[24-Apr-2008 17:55:35] <cappy> yeah i tried to read through them but the guide itself is a task and a half to go through
[24-Apr-2008 18:42:57] <locohost__> anyone ever setup zenoss as an ha failover pair
[24-Apr-2008 19:18:13] <zenops> has anyone loaded the zenpack for VMware?
[24-Apr-2008 19:28:21] <magnachef> I believe I have, but haven't used it yet
[24-Apr-2008 19:28:53] <magnachef> is that the same as the ESX zenpack?
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[24-Apr-2008 20:04:05] <magnachef> Does anyone know how to add a field to the "Main Views" -> "Device List" screen?
[24-Apr-2008 20:20:12] <magnachef> ping bulwinkle
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:05] <__ian__> You can't. Those fields are shown because they're indexed. It's nontrivial to store attribute values in an index then show them on the device list.
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:16] <__ian__> It can be done, but it isn't a simple thing.
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:47] <magnachef> ahh, that's too bad
[24-Apr-2008 20:23:12] <magnachef> I wish it was as easy as adding it to the Event Console
[24-Apr-2008 20:23:43] <magnachef> ...not sure why it isn't. But then again, I don't know the architecture of the code
[24-Apr-2008 20:45:28] idg|dinner is now known as indradg
[24-Apr-2008 22:03:54] <garnica> hi people !
[24-Apr-2008 22:04:41] <garnica> how can I load the mib files in the zenoss app that runs on a virtual machine for windows ?
[24-Apr-2008 22:05:34] <garnica> I've been trying zenmib run "mibfile", according to the manual the mib file should be in /usr/share/mibs/site
[24-Apr-2008 22:05:51] <garnica> but in the zenoss virtual machine version there is not such directory
[24-Apr-2008 22:06:08] <_chris_> the mib should be in ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/site
[24-Apr-2008 22:06:18] <_chris_> then you can run "zenmib run"
[24-Apr-2008 22:07:52] <garnica> ok... trying that.....
[24-Apr-2008 22:10:36] <garnica> I'm running zenoss in a virtual machine vmware on a windows platform.... in such version there is not a ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/site directory
[24-Apr-2008 22:11:21] <garnica> instead we have ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/iana
[24-Apr-2008 22:11:43] <garnica> ..../iana ...../ietf ...../irtf .... /tubs
[24-Apr-2008 22:16:28] <garnica> I have a zenoss server working, already configured to monitor a set of known devices in my network... is there a way to take this config to a new zenoss server ??
[24-Apr-2008 22:29:10] <_chris_> garnica: yes. use the zenbackup and zenrestore features. the user's guide explainst he process
[24-Apr-2008 22:30:05] <garnica> ok ! thanks
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[25-Apr-2008 01:14:09] <ForceNet> install zenoss centos?
[25-Apr-2008 01:14:18] <ForceNet> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99:
[25-Apr-2008 01:14:33] <ForceNet> . /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[25-Apr-2008 01:14:40] <ForceNet> . /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl:
[25-Apr-2008 01:14:56] <ForceNet> file not found
[25-Apr-2008 01:17:15] <ForceNet> ?
[25-Apr-2008 01:26:14] <ForceNet> $nicks
[25-Apr-2008 01:26:32] <ForceNet> alguem?
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[25-Apr-2008 06:42:32] <dan__t> 'morning.
[25-Apr-2008 06:43:13] <dan__t> I haven't used Zabbix in quite a while, and I'm waiting for a new VM to fire up so I can test it out some more - but is Zenoss limited to monitoring a host via SNMP, rather than using a client-side utility?
[25-Apr-2008 06:43:23] <dan__t> I noticed that's what is appealing about something like Zabbix
[25-Apr-2008 07:14:06] <Bulwinkle> dan__t: what are you looking to monitor?
[25-Apr-2008 07:14:25] <Bulwinkle> dan__t: ZenOSS can also run command, portscans, and WMI for windows
[25-Apr-2008 14:33:44] <zenops> Hola !
[25-Apr-2008 15:07:19] <flo__> hello!
[25-Apr-2008 15:09:40] <flo__> can i ask something about zenoss core here?
[25-Apr-2008 15:09:53] <magnachef> this is the place
[25-Apr-2008 15:10:00] <flo__> thank you
[25-Apr-2008 15:11:00] <flo__> i want to implement a new table in the OS tab for each device, but i have no idea how to start. do you know a good zenpack or something else for me to start?
[25-Apr-2008 15:12:36] <magnachef> doesn't sound like a zenpack thing...sounds like a code change
[25-Apr-2008 15:12:40] <flo__> the modeler i already have written in python, but now i have to put the data-map into the zenoss gui
[25-Apr-2008 15:13:00] <magnachef> I could be wrong though...explain more of what you're trying to do
[25-Apr-2008 15:13:23] <flo__> im reading a list of data with a new modeler throuth snmp
[25-Apr-2008 15:14:20] <flo__> this list i need to put in a table (something like the "ip services" table)
[25-Apr-2008 15:15:23] <magnachef> not sure...have you checked the forums?
[25-Apr-2008 15:17:05] <flo__> i ve googled a lot, also searched the zenoss-forums over several weeks. the "nearest" solution was this: www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/3ComDeviceModel
[25-Apr-2008 15:17:36] <flo__> this solution makes almost what i want - but this modeler only fills in some values. i need to do the same thing with a list
[25-Apr-2008 15:18:51] <magnachef> maybe some of the devs can help in zenoss-dev
[25-Apr-2008 15:19:31] <flo__> do you think its better to make a post there in the forum?
[25-Apr-2008 15:19:53] <magnachef> yeah...unless there's any zenoss'ers hanging around here
[25-Apr-2008 15:20:19] <magnachef> I know mrayzenoss is a man on the inside
[25-Apr-2008 15:21:09] <flo__> oukay. so thank you and have a nice weekend
[25-Apr-2008 15:23:36] <bschrock6962> Hello, at one point I was testing zenoss and had ssh command checks working, but now I am unable to get it working. Can someone point out where the documentation is that would relate to that? I have the manual and I find that a bit lean on information.
[25-Apr-2008 15:29:57] <magnachef> if it's not in the manual, it may be on the wiki
[25-Apr-2008 15:30:06] <magnachef> but yeah, the docs are quite lean in general
[25-Apr-2008 16:32:14] <zenops> I had enabled SNMP on my Cisco 3750 switch and setup traps to send to Zenoss server
[25-Apr-2008 16:35:16] <zenops> I still can see any additional information on the device, I can only info on the OS tab where I could view all the interfaces and theirs graphs, but that is the only tab with info.
[25-Apr-2008 16:39:13] <twm1010> You mean, you can't see?
[25-Apr-2008 16:39:29] <twm1010> What additional information are you after?
[25-Apr-2008 16:42:45] <zenops> I am supposed to see more info
[25-Apr-2008 16:43:11] <zenops> Am i?
[25-Apr-2008 16:43:28] <zenops> or the OS tab with the interface, is that it?
[25-Apr-2008 16:44:35] <zenops> on the hardware tab I would like descriptions of Power , heating, power supply failure, etc..
[25-Apr-2008 16:52:39] <garnica> hey zenops, why don't you try an snmpwalk command to your cisco switch from the zenoss app
[25-Apr-2008 16:52:41] <garnica> ?
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:04] <twm1010> I don't believe you will see that info unless a template has been designed specifically to collect it
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:10] <garnica> it gives you a bit more of info, besides the interface graphs
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:29] <twm1010> the performance tab should show you CPU utilization, memory, etc. but vendor specific hardware info has to be programmed in i would think
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[25-Apr-2008 17:03:46] <twm1010> Does anyone else think that the alerting configuration in Zenoss is just mind boggling?
[25-Apr-2008 17:04:16] <twm1010> I can't seem to settle on a scheme I like without causing some kind of duplication of effort
[25-Apr-2008 17:10:19] <magnachef> it does seem like there is a lot of brute force configuring of things, yes
[25-Apr-2008 17:13:41] <twm1010> okay RTFM was my problem
[25-Apr-2008 17:13:47] <twm1010> this making mucho more sense now
[25-Apr-2008 17:17:16] <zenops> That is the thing, there is nothing in the Performace tab
[25-Apr-2008 17:19:40] <zenops> I did an snmpwalk before and everything check out good
[25-Apr-2008 17:32:07] <garnica> you can customize the snmpwalk command, go to the Settings menu, select the commands tab and click the link to snmpwalk
[25-Apr-2008 17:32:42] <garnica> I would suggest you to erase the word system, then execute an snmpwalk again to obtain much more info
[25-Apr-2008 17:40:38] <zenops> So Iam getting this message from my switch:
[25-Apr-2008 17:40:42] <zenops> snmp trap 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.43.2.0.1
[25-Apr-2008 17:41:11] <zenops> The switch has enabled traps, what do I do with this message?
[25-Apr-2008 17:41:28] <zenops> do I have to have something enable in Zenoss?
[25-Apr-2008 17:44:07] <zenops> these are Yellow messages in my switch events...
[25-Apr-2008 17:44:34] <magnachef> do you have the mib loaded into zenoss?
[25-Apr-2008 17:46:53] <magnachef> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?local=en&translate=true&objectInput=ciscoConfigManEvent
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:05] <garnica> zenops, first you need to download the mib file of your cisco switch http://www.oidview.com/mibs/detail.html try this
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Cisco SNMP Object Navigator (at tools.cisco.com)
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:11] <garnica> or cisco....
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:15] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere's MIB Download Area (at www.oidview.com)
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:30] <zenops> Which ine would that be..
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:33] <zenops> let me check
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:37] <garnica> then upload the mib files to your zenoss app to understand the traps
[25-Apr-2008 17:48:37] <zenops> I have the IF-MIB and SYSLOG-MIB loaded
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:09] <garnica> zenops: you can download any mibbrowser ( I have downloaded jmibbrowser from sourceforge, works on java ) to get a clearer way to understand SNMP messages
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:16] <zenops> they are loaded..
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:39] <magnachef> you need the CISCO-CONFIG-MAN-MIB, I believe
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:47] <zenops> I iREASONING MIB walker
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:56] <zenops> I have iREASONING MIB walker
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:20] <garnica> search the mib file for your cisco model, that's important !
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:22] <zenops> let me get that one loaded up...git me a few minutes
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:44] <zenops> Thatr is how I got the other ones, the same way your describing it
[25-Apr-2008 18:26:22] <zenops> Are you still there magnachef?
[25-Apr-2008 18:27:09] <magnachef> yep
[25-Apr-2008 18:30:43] <magnachef> sup?
[25-Apr-2008 18:31:50] <zenops> so
[25-Apr-2008 18:32:15] <zenops> I loaded the MIB, I am confused about what to do next
[25-Apr-2008 18:32:28] <zenops> Mib is loaded,
[25-Apr-2008 18:33:58] <nemo__> inspect it in zenoss
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:08] <nemo__> some mibs i loaded seem to have zero rows
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:11] <nemo__> some are ok
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:52] <zenops> let me check
[25-Apr-2008 18:36:51] <zenops> I loaded 5 mibs for this Cisco unit, I do not get any addittional compared with before
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:13] <magnachef> did they load alright, or complain about dependencies?
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:14] <zenops> I loaded 5 mibs for this Cisco unit, I do not get any addittional information , graphs or notifications, compared with before
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:44] <zenops> they do load right, I fixed the dependencies, by adding the neede mibs
[25-Apr-2008 18:38:33] <magnachef> is there any weird thing with needing to restart zenoss? I know that shouldn't need to be done, but is that what needs to be done in reality?
[25-Apr-2008 18:38:52] <magnachef> oh, clear the previous events from that device first
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:01] <magnachef> then have it resend the trap again
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:11] <magnachef> maybe you still have the old event lying around
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:22] <zenops> All cleared..
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:32] <zenops> Whta happens when you get a trap?
[25-Apr-2008 18:40:36] <zenops> I mean a got a notification in yellow of an improper login...
[25-Apr-2008 18:41:02] <magnachef> ok, that's a trap
[25-Apr-2008 18:41:09] <magnachef> you should have an event in the event console
[25-Apr-2008 18:42:36] <zenops> I did..
[25-Apr-2008 18:42:50] <zenops> so what do I do in practcality with it..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:01] <zenops> have sent an email to the admin..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:23] <zenops> or it is just there for history purposes..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:51] <zenops> I bouncing the Zenoss server............................
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> well, it should be for the NOC
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:27] <magnachef> or whoever is watching it
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:52] <magnachef> when someone has dealt with it, you can acknowledge it
[25-Apr-2008 18:50:11] <magnachef> which will keep it there, and when completed, move it to history
[25-Apr-2008 18:50:55] <twm1010> call me ignorant on routers here, but for me to receive a trap that an interface has gone down, i configure that on the router?
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:12] <twm1010> is that a global setting, or per interface
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:12] <magnachef> yeah
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:26] <zenops> I just had some log improperly to the switch, i did a get a notification but it does not tell me that it was an improper login???
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:28] * magnachef CCNA has long since expired
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:35] <twm1010> ah ha, http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094a05.shtml
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:43] <twm1010> i'm off to go edumacate myself
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:03] <twm1010> i will report back when i'm slightly less ignorant
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:11] <zenops> I meant "someone"
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:38] <magnachef> zenops: well, the event is for an auth failure?
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:59] <twm1010> chef: I would think that would be the ideal way to generate an event that an interface has gone down, especially if there are multiple routes that can be taken to reach a router
[25-Apr-2008 18:53:37] <magnachef> well, it should be sent out your management interface
[25-Apr-2008 18:59:59] <zenops> So, why do not I get the syslog notification, I have the syslog Mib loaded..
[25-Apr-2008 19:00:37] <magnachef> syslog is different from snmp/trap
[25-Apr-2008 19:01:31] <zenops> Also my notification comes as "unknown class event" in the events tab?
[25-Apr-2008 19:01:53] <magnachef> you need to map it to an event type
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:09] <zenops> I guess what I am trying to sya i sthat the message is so generic...
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:26] <magnachef> welcome to SNMP traps!
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:28] <zenops> what are my choices of events...
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:02] <magnachef> I know that Netcool, for example, has something that allows you to enrich the events and add more information to it
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:35] <zenops> I want to learn this so bad..
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:57] <magnachef> and there's a lot to learn!
[25-Apr-2008 19:04:33] <magnachef> I'd say your best bet is to google search, then read up
[25-Apr-2008 19:04:46] <magnachef> The Essential SNMP book from O'Reilly may help too
[25-Apr-2008 19:05:06] <magnachef> man snmpd and man snmpd.conf should help too
[25-Apr-2008 19:05:17] <magnachef> and for routers and switches, search through the Cisco site
[25-Apr-2008 19:06:08] <zenops> I just want this message trap setup, to show my boss some progress
[25-Apr-2008 19:09:21] <magnachef> well, you can show that it's showing up in your event list
[25-Apr-2008 19:09:37] <magnachef> can you shutdown an interface on your switch/router?
[25-Apr-2008 19:10:28] <magnachef> because you will see an event for ifDown
[25-Apr-2008 19:12:24] <zenops> Let me try that
[25-Apr-2008 19:17:25] <twm1010> so wait, zenoss reads the log on the router?
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:01] <twm1010> thats confusing
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:20] <zenops> I got the notification of the IFDOWN..cool
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:53] <zenops> How do I get a better message if improper login..?
[25-Apr-2008 19:19:55] <magnachef> is someone actually getting into the system?
[25-Apr-2008 19:20:25] <magnachef> twm: no, it won't read the logs on the router, the router should send it's syslog messages out to a server
[25-Apr-2008 19:28:29] <twm1010> ah, gotcha
[25-Apr-2008 19:29:05] <twm1010> the cisco document references a difference between traps and informs, does Zenoss support both?
[25-Apr-2008 19:31:16] <magnachef> I think informs is just informational stuff, where traps are errors
[25-Apr-2008 19:32:38] <magnachef> so yes, I believe zenoss does
[25-Apr-2008 19:35:29] <twm1010> well, as it says here, traps are broadcast and don't expect a confirmation of receipt
[25-Apr-2008 19:35:38] <twm1010> where as informs send the same data, but confirm that it made it
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:12] <twm1010> ""However, informs consume more resources in the agent and in the network. Unlike a trap, which is discarded as soon as it is sent, an inform request must be held in memory until a response is received, or the request times out. Traps are sent only once, while an inform can be retried several times. The retries increase traffic and contribute to a higher overhead on the network.""
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:40] <twm1010> I would think traps should be sufficient, though, if an interface goes down, and re routing doesn't happen immediately, perhaps interface down traps should be informs
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:46] <twm1010> and the rest can be traps
[25-Apr-2008 19:37:43] <magnachef> yeah, I would think so
[25-Apr-2008 19:38:25] <magnachef> so informs use TCP and not UDP?
[25-Apr-2008 19:40:09] <deanwesterburg> Hello everyone. I'm having problems getting my rrd file to generate. I have found lots of others with this issue on the forums, but no good solutions. Permissions are ok, Cleared out the temp files, but still no go.. Any ideas?
[25-Apr-2008 19:40:57] <magnachef> what device class did you add the machine to?
[25-Apr-2008 19:42:32] <deanwesterburg> I have a custom device class created, and a template bound to the device. The template is running the "check_nwstat" command and I have it so the output is "|load1=3" where 3 is the percent of processor usage
[25-Apr-2008 19:42:54] <deanwesterburg> zentestcommand returns "|load1=3"
[25-Apr-2008 19:45:57] <magnachef> ahhh, so you need to setup the datapoints
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:08] <magnachef> it won't do it for you automatically
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:14] <deanwesterburg> I did.
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:21] <deanwesterburg> I have the datapoint "load1"
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:27] <deanwesterburg> then the graph point as well.
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:21] <magnachef> ahhh, ok. So your performance template is all setup and applied to that device class
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:49] <magnachef> oh, well you can't graph that string
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:52] <deanwesterburg> Correct. If I understand correctly, I have created the datasource "load1" because that is what is in the output of my command
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:58] <deanwesterburg> oh!
[25-Apr-2008 19:48:09] <magnachef> you'll need to parse the 3 out
[25-Apr-2008 19:49:00] <deanwesterburg> I did that once, but I'll try it again.
[25-Apr-2008 19:51:04] <magnachef> what is in your check_nwstat command?
[25-Apr-2008 19:52:21] <deanwesterburg> it is "/opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nwstat -H ${dev/manageIp} -v LOAD1 | awk '{print $$15}' | awk -F\% '{print $$2}' | awk -F\; '{print $$1}'"
[25-Apr-2008 19:55:17] <deanwesterburg> when I do "zentestcommand -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --datasource=load1" I get "|load1=7"
[25-Apr-2008 19:55:28] <deanwesterburg> but you are saying I need it to just be the "7"
[25-Apr-2008 19:56:19] <deanwesterburg> would this stop the rrd file from even generating though?
[25-Apr-2008 20:05:39] <deanwesterburg> can my datapoint and datasource be the same name?
[25-Apr-2008 20:06:57] <magnachef> yeah
[25-Apr-2008 20:07:02] <magnachef> because it's not a number
[25-Apr-2008 20:08:13] <deanwesterburg> ok. I now have just "/opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nwstat -H ${dev/manageIp} -v LOAD1 | awk '{print $$15}' | awk -F\= '{print $$2}' | awk -F\; '{print $$1}'" so that I get a number output.. Still no go....
[25-Apr-2008 20:10:44] <magnachef> what does that output?
[25-Apr-2008 20:10:53] <deanwesterburg> just "7"
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:05] <deanwesterburg> which is the correct % proc used right now.
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:43] <magnachef> hmm
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:48] <deanwesterburg> I just changed my thresholds to a min of 50 and a max of 51 and am not seeing a event triggered...
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:49] <magnachef> well, give it about 15 min
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:01] <magnachef> make sure the poller is running
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <magnachef> make sure the zenoss user is able to run that command
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <deanwesterburg> when you say poller, you mean "zencommand"?
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:30] <deanwesterburg> I am testing as zenoss.
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <deanwesterburg> user has the rights to run it.
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:43] <magnachef> I don't know the exact name of the process...but whatever is doing that
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:01] <deanwesterburg> zencommand is running. It is what runs the NAGIOS plugins from what I read.
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:14] <magnachef> hmmm
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:25] <magnachef> blame netware ;-)
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:38] <deanwesterburg> yea, that's what I've been saying for the last 2 days as I beat my head against the desk!
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:54] <deanwesterburg> I appreciate the help and verification....
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <magnachef> I used to monitor a bunch of netware servers via Cacti
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:04] <magnachef> cacti has a host template for NW
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:19] <magnachef> you can probably get the load via SNMP
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:39] <deanwesterburg> We really like Zenoss and seeing that I can get the data via the "check_nwstat" command, I am sure we are close...
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:49] <twm1010> dean,
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:58] <deanwesterburg> hello twm1010
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:33] <twm1010> so you're trying to monitor netware eh
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:39] <deanwesterburg> yea...
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <deanwesterburg> Still have some of those out there.
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:53] <twm1010> let me copy and paste my working template
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:56] <twm1010> i have 30 of'em
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:10] <deanwesterburg> OH! WOO HOO!!! Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou....
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:34] <magnachef> there ya go!
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:37] <deanwesterburg>
[25-Apr-2008 20:17:42] <twm1010> ok, for my first datasource, CPU Utilization, i run the following zencommand syntax
[25-Apr-2008 20:17:43] <twm1010> $$ZENHOME/Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H "${dev/manageIp}" -v LOAD5
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:02] <deanwesterburg> without any cleanup using SED or AWK?
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:22] <twm1010> the datasource i established to record said data, is just called load5 type is gauge, RRD max
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:34] <twm1010> that right there was a direct copy'n'paste
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:59] <deanwesterburg> ok.
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:34] <twm1010> another example, for tracking cache buffers
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:35] <twm1010> $$ZENHOME/Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H "${dev/manageIp}" -v CBUFF
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:43] <twm1010> datapoint is called Cachebuffers
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:59] <twm1010> also gauge type, no min or max
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:17] <twm1010> I myself am still trying to get a grip on where SNMP configurations are managed, it seems like some modules keep their own, like groupwise
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:25] <twm1010> yet still use the system settings to decide WHO to notify
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <twm1010> but if you want to do an SNMPGET to say... monitor the post office for connections, groupwise needs to be configured for the right community
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:26] * magnachef is glad to be out of his previous Netware centric environment
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:41] <twm1010> I'm not chef, actually... all our shit works
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:55] <twm1010> seriously i've got a netware 6 server, serving up our intrnet, uptime is over 2yrs
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:01] <twm1010> intranet, that is
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:05] <deanwesterburg> haha
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:06] <magnachef> heh, true...it NW gets dogged more than it deserves
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:15] <magnachef> I did like GW
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:16] <twm1010> archaic? maybe, reliable, definitely
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:28] <twm1010> and i'll take Groupwise's reliability over exchange any day
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:33] <magnachef> agreed
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:40] <deanwesterburg> I am always amazed at how similar many pieces of linux and Netware are.
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:53] <deanwesterburg> and I love my linux!
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:03] <twm1010> yes... right now we're making plans to transition to OES2 Linux servers
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:22] <twm1010> we're simply stuck waiting on Novell to finish native linux support for apple file protocol
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:42] <deanwesterburg> I have several boxes that are netware and a NOWS SBE box too.. Works well.
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:43] <magnachef> interesting
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:46] <twm1010> since i can't convince the other geeks to simply use NFS on the Macs to get to our servers
[25-Apr-2008 20:25:03] <twm1010> or CIFS/Samba
[25-Apr-2008 20:26:37] <magnachef> yeah, that'd be easier
[25-Apr-2008 20:26:43] <deanwesterburg> Under my datapoint, should I be entering the command again? or will it know to run the command from the Data source?
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:25] <deanwesterburg> nevermind..
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <deanwesterburg> I got it !!! THANKS TWM1010!!
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <malbon> has Matt Ray been in here today?
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:59] * magnachef shrugs
[25-Apr-2008 20:43:36] <twm1010> dean: no prob
[25-Apr-2008 20:43:45] <twm1010> i didn't have anyone help me the first time!
[25-Apr-2008 20:44:01] <twm1010> what a bastard it was too, i had no idea that he datapoints had to correlate to the output of the command
[25-Apr-2008 20:44:07] <twm1010> hehe
[25-Apr-2008 21:02:21] <deanwesterburg> Yea, I had a heck of a time. I had been watching for a post to your entry in the Forum..
[25-Apr-2008 21:02:43] <deanwesterburg> Thanks again.. It's 5 o'clock here. I'm heading home!
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[28-Apr-2008 08:07:08] <MrTux> hi guys
[28-Apr-2008 08:07:55] <MrTux> i'm just wondering if you can help me, i've an old backupfile, and i need now some parts out of it, but in the file i have this date.fs file, and i'm wondering howto get manually data out of it
[28-Apr-2008 08:15:06] <nemo_> its a zeo db
[28-Apr-2008 08:15:19] <nemo_> the zeo db
[28-Apr-2008 08:38:46] <indika> can any of u guys help me to monitor a custom java process with zenoss
[28-Apr-2008 08:39:14] <indika> process can be view with "ps -x | grep java"
[28-Apr-2008 08:51:50] <nemo_> jmx?
[28-Apr-2008 08:53:24] <indika> Is there a way it can be done with regex?
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:10] <nemo_> indika, as a normal process yes, they work on regex's
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:20] <nemo_> but its very basic monitoring then
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:29] <nemo_> no perf, just is the process there or not
[28-Apr-2008 09:11:45] <indika> nemo, That enough for me... Can I know how to do that..
[28-Apr-2008 09:13:55] <indika> After creating a new process, do I have to add it to the device
[28-Apr-2008 09:15:44] <nemo_> no , if its seen running there , it will pick it up
[28-Apr-2008 09:15:58] <nemo_> ( you need snmp running )
[28-Apr-2008 09:16:21] <nemo_> then after that, it if sees it not running where it has previously run, it will generate an event
[28-Apr-2008 09:27:36] <indika> nemo, I tried it. But wasn't succeed. Anyway I ll tri again.. May be a prob with my regex. Thanx a lot
[28-Apr-2008 09:28:57] <indika> nemo, One more. can I monitor "c" process too with jmx
[28-Apr-2008 09:34:52] <nemo_> indika, try it and find out, i dont use it personally
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:10] <nemo_> regarding regex, just put in the name of the process
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:25] <nemo_> no real need for a regex unless the process name is strange
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:37] <nemo_> e.g. httpd for apache should work fine
[28-Apr-2008 09:36:34] <indika> nemo, ok thanx
[28-Apr-2008 09:39:24] <nemo_> nps
[28-Apr-2008 09:40:26] <nemo_> are there any logs where you can see whats happening with transforms ?
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[28-Apr-2008 09:52:38] <indika> I m getting lot of events from "/ÂStatus/ÂPing" saying "ip x.x.x.x is down".
[28-Apr-2008 09:54:54] <indika> But when I manually ping to x.x.x.x its replying. But with around 600ms seconds
[28-Apr-2008 09:55:23] <indika> Is there any way to set ping delay in Zenoss
[28-Apr-2008 10:18:34] <MrTux> nemo_: see in the logs/ directory, for trap transform you can see it in zentrap.log eg
[28-Apr-2008 10:51:31] <EekZ`> hi
[28-Apr-2008 10:52:59] <EekZ`> anyone alive?
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[28-Apr-2008 13:29:49] <nemo_> MrTux, what about an 'ordinary' transform ?
[28-Apr-2008 13:45:06] <EekZ`> ordinary?
[28-Apr-2008 14:05:17] <ckrough> anyone dealt with false "snmp agent down" alerts? Getting groups of them at random...
[28-Apr-2008 14:07:45] <nemo_> ckrough, never false, but yeh dealt with alot of em
[28-Apr-2008 14:08:03] <nemo_> snmpd agent down could mean a firewall or whatever is blocking it btw
[28-Apr-2008 14:08:44] <ckrough> IM fairly certain these are false, they are inconsistent and show for random switches on the same network
[28-Apr-2008 14:11:37] <twm1010> maybe there is a poll time you can back off some
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:03] <ckrough> you thinking it's just overloading and dropping packets?
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:07] <ckrough> its a large network
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:07] <twm1010> yes
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:16] <nemo_> the is an issue with some devices about the number of snmp data items
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:17] <twm1010> here you go
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:29] <twm1010> there is a zProperty for zSnpmTimeout
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:33] <nemo_> default setting is 40, i heard some cisco gear prefers 20
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:37] <twm1010> and zSnmpTries
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:46] <ckrough> yeah, were a cisco shop, we dropped to 20 a while back
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:02] <nemo_> ok .rgr that ;p
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:05] <ckrough> but I may try increasing the timeout and increasing the tries, it could just be that we are dropping pavkets
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:11] <ckrough> thank
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:14] <nemo_> no idea really then ckrough , not getting the issue here
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:23] <twm1010> isn't snmp primarily over UDP?
[28-Apr-2008 14:14:36] <ckrough> yeah. But it could still be missing snmp responses, right?
[28-Apr-2008 14:15:35] <nemo_> yep
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:08] <nemo_> all the more possible / less traceable with udp
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:33] <twm1010> Make small changes like the timeout/tries, and see if it helps
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:40] <ckrough> roger
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:48] <twm1010> maybe do it on just the /Network device class too
[28-Apr-2008 14:17:07] <twm1010> servers might be fine with stock settings
[28-Apr-2008 15:08:58] <twm1010> anyone good at troubleshooting Linux?
[28-Apr-2008 15:09:14] <ckrough> whats the problem?
[28-Apr-2008 15:09:45] <twm1010> i've got high CPU used by a python process
[28-Apr-2008 15:10:26] <twm1010> would like to see what exactly is causing it, though about stopping the zenoss daemons one at a time to see if that does anything
[28-Apr-2008 15:11:12] <twm1010> ah, there we are, its zenactions
[28-Apr-2008 15:12:57] <twm1010> server as a whole is holding about...55% CPU
[28-Apr-2008 15:15:04] <twm1010> Also, does the MySQL database for events need to be purged or cleaned up ever?
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[28-Apr-2008 18:19:04] <Blinny> I have two Dell 2900 servers. The server that runs zen does not show any disk usage information, but the other server does. How can I get Zen to map my localhost Dell box correctly?
[28-Apr-2008 18:20:37] <Blinny> On the local zen box, if I try to 'snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic localhost' I just get back 'End of MIB'
[28-Apr-2008 18:22:09] <_chris_> Blinny: check your /etc/snmpd/snmpd.conf and make sure the entire tree (.1) is returned
[28-Apr-2008 18:22:11] <_chris_> what distro?
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:18] <Blinny> Ubuntu Hardy
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:35] <Blinny> I have this: view systemview included .1
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:37] <_chris_> change the paranoid stuff to public
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:50] <_chris_> i think ubuntu has some paranoid setting in snmpd.conf
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:53] <_chris_> something like
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:58] <Blinny> I wiped that and used the zenoss example
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:59] <_chris_> i dunno - i can't remember.
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:01] <_chris_> ok
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:07] <_chris_> can you revert?
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:34] <Blinny> /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1fd5ed71
[28-Apr-2008 18:32:02] <Blinny> if I change 'view systemview included .1' to 'view all included .1' I get tons of returns on my snmpwalk
[28-Apr-2008 18:32:29] <_chris_> try and re-model localhost. your drives should show up
[28-Apr-2008 18:33:21] <Blinny> Yeah my drives now show up. That's odd.
[28-Apr-2008 18:34:56] <Blinny> Thanks _chris_
[28-Apr-2008 18:48:52] <backpackzakattak> Good morning, Zac here from MegaPath. I have a question about the Google Maps portlet
[28-Apr-2008 18:49:38] <backpackzakattak> I'm currently using the firefox extension ReloadEvery to reload the map, but was wondering if the next release would have a refresh function
[28-Apr-2008 19:03:31] <ckrough> I don't use that portlet, does it not refresh with the Dashboard refresh?
[28-Apr-2008 19:04:14] <backpackzakattak> No, the dashboard refreshes but not the Maps
[28-Apr-2008 19:06:01] <backpackzakattak> So for example a location would go red in the dashboard due to status poll failing
[28-Apr-2008 19:06:39] <backpackzakattak> but the map will stay green until you manually refresh it or you use a Firefox addon to refresh it every so often
[28-Apr-2008 19:09:33] <ckrough> ah
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:17] <backpackzakattak> I searched the forums and archives and there was no feature for it mentioned
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:38] <backpackzakattak> just that someone else was using a Firefox addon to do the reloads
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:43] <backpackzakattak> *refreshes
[28-Apr-2008 19:24:04] <twm1010> i could swear each portelet, including the maps, has its own refresh setting
[28-Apr-2008 19:25:25] <Blinny> I see 'Refresh Rate: 60' in my google map config
[28-Apr-2008 19:25:42] <backpackzakattak> Where is your config located
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[28-Apr-2008 19:28:18] <Blinny> I click the * on the top-right of the maps window
[28-Apr-2008 19:28:46] <Blinny> What looks like a 'close this window' button (;
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:29] <backpackzakattak> Interesting, I don't seem to have that button
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:33] <backpackzakattak> I'm running version 2.1
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:40] <backpackzakattak> are you running compiled from trunk?
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:56] <twm1010> all the portlets should have the button
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:20] <backpackzakattak> hmm..maybe i'm not looking at a portlet then
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:26] <backpackzakattak> I'm under /Locations
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:29] <backpackzakattak> and then under the Map tab
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:48] <twm1010> ah, he's talking about the google map portlet on the dashboard
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:02] <twm1010> my refresh is 60 too
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:33] <backpackzakattak> I see...Now I have the refresh properly setup after adding a portlet
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:39] <backpackzakattak> to the main dashboard
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:46] <backpackzakattak> this is better anyways
[28-Apr-2008 19:34:23] <backpackzakattak> I have it set to 10 now
[28-Apr-2008 19:34:45] <backpackzakattak> my RPM version of zenoss is 2.1.3
[28-Apr-2008 19:38:04] <backpackzakattak> Thanks guys
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:45] <_CitizenKane__> hi everyone, i'm trying to install zenoss on RHEL 5 and i'm running into problems when I get to the initialization step, i get the following errors
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:47] <_CitizenKane__> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:50] <_CitizenKane__> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:56] <_CitizenKane__> anyone know how to fix this?
[28-Apr-2008 20:17:09] <ckrough> those are MySQL permission errors
[28-Apr-2008 20:17:45] <ckrough> you may have specified that users @ remote hosts can access your DB, but not users @ the locahost
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[28-Apr-2008 22:50:06] <idea4gud> hi anyout there
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[29-Apr-2008 09:14:12] <nemo_> morning
[29-Apr-2008 13:15:19] <indika> I m getting "status/ping" time-out alerts when the remote response time reaches some thing around 600ms
[29-Apr-2008 13:15:30] <indika> Is there any way to avoid it
[29-Apr-2008 13:18:02] <nemo_> not that i know of
[29-Apr-2008 13:18:17] <nemo_> 600ms is slow
[29-Apr-2008 13:21:06] <nemo_> \/Monitors /localhost
[29-Apr-2008 13:32:59] <indika> nemo, yes u correct. But the link from my site to the remote site is very slow
[29-Apr-2008 13:33:52] <indika> nemo, So it takes some thing around 600ms to response to ping s
[29-Apr-2008 13:51:21] <nemo_> indika, not sure but look at something like: :8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/StatusMonitors/localhost
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[29-Apr-2008 15:49:18] <garnica> hi people, I want to monitor performance of 4 processors on a windows 2003 server, I have added the template, data source and point source ... now when defining one of the graph points I have a field "Consolidation" wich is set to "AVERAGE"
[29-Apr-2008 15:50:19] <garnica> but I don't want an average of the values to be drawn, I want to see the values in the instant they are sampled, not the average...
[29-Apr-2008 15:51:12] <garnica> How can I set this "Consolidation" field so I get absolute values instead of an average ?
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[29-Apr-2008 16:16:49] <Tadaka> is anyone here monitoring windows 2008 with zenoss yet?
[29-Apr-2008 16:18:02] <Tadaka> I'm having trouble getting wmi and snmp to work properly, which I'm guessing is some security setting I have not found yet
[29-Apr-2008 16:35:38] <JVirus> Hello
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:22] <JVirus> Does anyone know what version of linux the Zenoss Windows vmware version is running?
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:39] <JVirus> I dont know linux and I need to go search for a list of commands and such for linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:51] <JVirus> but there are so many distributions
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:05] <JVirus> want to make sure I read up on the right one
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:27] <garnica> JVirus, try uname -a
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:33] <JVirus> ok
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:33] <JVirus> brb
[29-Apr-2008 16:39:17] <JVirus> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.19.7-0.4.gcc3.4x86i686 #1 Tue May 1 13:00:52 EDT 2007 i686 athalon i386 GNU/Linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:39:56] <JVirus> GNU?
[29-Apr-2008 16:40:27] <garnica> the linux version is 2.6.19.7-0.4.gcc3.4x86 i686
[29-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <JVirus> that brings up 0 results, GNU does though. Is GNU the distribution?
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:32] <JVirus> I found this: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/command_line_intro
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:44] <JVirus> ill try here to get started, I am so noob to linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:51] <adytum-bot> Title: A beginner’s introduction to the GNU/Linux command line (at www.freesoftwaremagazine.com)
[29-Apr-2008 16:44:02] <JVirus> if you have any suggestion I appreciate, and thanks for that command to find the distro
[29-Apr-2008 16:46:04] <garnica> you can find linux documentation in www.tldp.org
[29-Apr-2008 16:46:15] <garnica> no problem
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[29-Apr-2008 17:29:35] <locohost> baffle around?>
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:28] <Diz-X> ey guys!
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:32] <Diz-X> kind of new here..
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:49] <locohost> we dont like outsiders. Go away.
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:50] <locohost> just kidding
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:52] <locohost> welcome
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:55] <Diz-X>
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:56] <Diz-X> :: runs ::
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <Diz-X> lol
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:08] <Diz-X> at first I want to thank for the great software!!
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:30] <Diz-X> I had it working in half an hour for 13 servers
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:31] <Diz-X>
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:55] <Diz-X> but :$ I have some small issues with setting up the mysqlmonitoring
[29-Apr-2008 17:42:49] <Diz-X> I get this error: MySQL Error: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'10.0.0.4' (using password: YES)")
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:05] <Diz-X> I have changed the password under ->Custom to my root password
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:11] <Diz-X> but didn't change a thing
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:40] <Diz-X> every tried to changed it hardcoded at the template lvl
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:41] <Diz-X> :S
[29-Apr-2008 17:44:46] <Diz-X> tested even on the prompt with mysql -u root -p -h xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[29-Apr-2008 17:44:58] <Diz-X> I can login and it works!
[29-Apr-2008 17:45:03] <Diz-X> but not in Zenoss :'(
[29-Apr-2008 17:46:38] <Diz-X> ${here/cMySqlRootPassword} is the varaible for mysql password isn't it?
[29-Apr-2008 17:51:06] <locohost> mysql is on localhost?
[29-Apr-2008 17:51:13] <locohost> or, this server is somewhere else?
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:00] <Diz-X> both
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:35] <Diz-X> I tried on the local where I run zenoss and tried on remote one with the correct privelagges zet
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:57] <Diz-X> MySQL Error: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)")
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:08] <Diz-X> when I do mysql -u root -p -h 127.0.0.1
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:11] <Diz-X> It works
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:28] <Diz-X> but can't see what the password is that zenoss sends to client
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:35] <Diz-X> euuh server
[29-Apr-2008 17:55:41] <locohost> hmm, i havent done exactly what your doing, but i have a bit of experiance with both zenoss and mysql...wish there was a way to see what password it was sending..wonder if a special character is not excaping or something
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:05] <Diz-X> the password is just normal latin style
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:27] <Diz-X> no utf8
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:33] <Diz-X> no special chars
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:36] <Diz-X> just letters and digits
[29-Apr-2008 17:57:33] <locohost> can you connect to it with a z mysql method? do you have that adapter installed? (not sure that it is required for t his, but if that worked, or didnt work..might tell you something
[29-Apr-2008 17:57:57] <Diz-X> a z mysql method ?
[29-Apr-2008 17:58:52] <locohost> under the zope management interface, add a see if you have mysql database connection in the drop down of things to add
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:00] <locohost> if you dont, you have to install something to use it
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:08] <locohost> got a meeting, gl, ill be back later
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:30] <Diz-X> take care mate
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:33] <Diz-X> thanks for the help!
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:20] <Diz-X> well I give up for now
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:26] <Diz-X> I am off mates! will be back later her
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:27] <Diz-X> e
[29-Apr-2008 18:40:55] <rharrison> has anyone had an issue where network mounts are causing snmpwalk to timeout waiting on the df?
[29-Apr-2008 18:59:54] <magnachef> I've seen that issue before with other applications
[29-Apr-2008 19:00:09] <magnachef> sounds like you have an issue with your nfs mounts
[29-Apr-2008 19:29:35] <magnachef> I'm having weird issues with OS Processes
[29-Apr-2008 19:29:47] <magnachef> I have a regexp for xinetd
[29-Apr-2008 19:30:56] <magnachef> when it originally ran, it found one with name "xinetd" and one with "xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:02] <magnachef> randomly today, the "xinetd" process created an alert that "Process not running: xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:49] <magnachef> after doing an SNMP walk, I received the following lines:
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:53] <magnachef> and see what you get: http://yourhost:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/admin/setDashboardState
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:53] <magnachef> <cappy> it says True
[29-Apr-2008 19:33:28] <magnachef> sorry, not sure what that was
[29-Apr-2008 19:34:36] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName.25458 = "xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:34:49] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunPath.25458 = "xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:35:37] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunParameters.25458 = "-stayalive -resuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid"
[29-Apr-2008 19:35:53] <magnachef> not sure why it's not finding xinetd process
[29-Apr-2008 19:51:55] <cgibbons> tada
[29-Apr-2008 20:54:56] <garn32> when i add a ups zenoss doesnt find any interfaces on the device, what gives?
[29-Apr-2008 20:57:43] <garn32> hello ... anyone there?
[29-Apr-2008 21:03:53] <Bulwinkle> garn32: what kind of UPS?
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:04] <garn32> liebert
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:21] <Bulwinkle> garn32: why would it have any interfaces?
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:30] <garn32> its a managed ups
[29-Apr-2008 21:06:40] <garnica> garn32: is the ups SNMP capable ? if so, you look for the mibs to upload them in the zenoss app
[29-Apr-2008 21:07:24] <garn32> I have added the liebert mibs and the the RFC_1628 mib
[29-Apr-2008 21:09:17] <KulM> Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction for using RPN on multi-graph definitions?
[29-Apr-2008 21:09:26] <KulM> everything I try gives an error
[29-Apr-2008 21:11:30] <garnica> garn32: look in the ups manual if you have to enable SNMP protocol in the ups, maybe a switch in the board of the ups, maybe you connect to the ups with a PC maybe a web administration
[29-Apr-2008 21:12:09] <garn32> the ups is located and all but after it is modled there are no interfaces displayed under the os tab for that device
[29-Apr-2008 21:12:23] <garnica> garn32: the point is, make sure the ups is SNMP enabled, and it is configured to send traps, or listen SNMP to the Zenoss host IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:17] <garn32> yes is is the device responeds to the snmpwalk generated from the UI and i have set up performance graphs that are working
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:28] <garnica> garn32: ok.... so the ups has ethernet interfaces ??
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:45] <garn32> yes it has one management interface
[29-Apr-2008 21:14:56] <garnica> garn32: ok... can you see the interface information when you use snmpwalk ??
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:15] <garn32> yes i can
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:39] <garnica> the interface section should start with "if"... like "ifInErrors", "ifOperStatus"...
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:44] <garn32> the only that is really out of place is the fact that the OID for interface description is blank
[29-Apr-2008 21:16:08] <garn32> other exist and and are listed values
[29-Apr-2008 21:16:29] <garnica> well.... there are ways to do this "manually"... let's see...
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:02] <garnica> In the left menu click "Devices"... several tabs appear.... select "templates"
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:17] <garn32> i can add the interface manually that is no problem but i was wondering why on the intinal modling this informaiton is not discovered
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:40] <garn32> sorry if i have not been clear
[29-Apr-2008 21:18:33] <locohost> i get stats off the management if of my apc pdu's, it shows up as "lance"
[29-Apr-2008 21:19:42] <locohost> really no point in having that though, the only traffic there is ganna be snmp traffic, do i really want to trend that"?
[29-Apr-2008 21:19:43] <garnica> mmm I would think that not all the marks follow a similar MIB structure....
[29-Apr-2008 21:20:52] <garn32> so perhaps its a problem with the mibs that i have loaded?
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:39] <KulM> anyone used RPN expressions with a mutli-graph?
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:44] <locohost> or the template you applied to it
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:46] <garnica> garn32: it may be..... I'm not so sure...
[29-Apr-2008 21:22:27] <garn32> hmmm... any advice on where i should start look or should i just give into inputting the interfaces manually
[29-Apr-2008 21:24:08] <locohost> maybe try modeling the device under linux, rather then pdu. maybe that is a dumb idea, but your linux template shuld try to trend ifs
[29-Apr-2008 21:25:12] <garn32> i have tried modling the ups under different classes but to no avail the interfaces still do not show
[29-Apr-2008 21:25:42] <locohost> why do you want if stats on the management? ..if you dont mind me asking
[29-Apr-2008 21:26:49] <garn32> its not so much that i want the stats on the interface but i need the the device to show up in the network map
[29-Apr-2008 21:27:27] <garn32> and with out having the device having an interface it doesnt show up on the network map so far as i have tested
[29-Apr-2008 21:29:00] <locohost> yar
[29-Apr-2008 21:34:30] <garn32> well i need to get going thank you for you time and help
[29-Apr-2008 21:37:48] <locohost> take care
[29-Apr-2008 21:46:53] <KulM> anyone created a custom graph definition using multi-graphs?
[29-Apr-2008 21:58:55] <KulM> so... is there a list of available variables for use in graph definitions?
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[29-Apr-2008 23:42:46] <locohost__> join #net-snmp
[29-Apr-2008 23:42:57] <locohost__> typo
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[30-Apr-2008 00:10:29] <zac_> ?
[30-Apr-2008 00:40:38] <cgibbons> hmm
[30-Apr-2008 01:16:10] <densone> I am looking for a sample snmp config for linux that zenoss will like. Anyone out there have a sample
[30-Apr-2008 03:58:05] <densone> couple zenoss questions
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:02] <densone> in zenoss 1.0
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:13] <densone> it basically sniffed all the processes on my servers
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:18] <densone> and showed what was running
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:26] <densone> I can figure out how to do this in 2
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:39] <_chris_> it's the same thing in zenoss 2
[30-Apr-2008 04:00:01] <_chris_> when we model a device we get a list of all the processes running on the box and we compare that against the regexes you have defined
[30-Apr-2008 04:00:09] <_chris_> if we get a hit we start monitor said process
[30-Apr-2008 04:01:06] <densone> hmm. I just remember 1.0 finding the processes automatically, and now its not finding anything
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:13] <densone> so I go to device list
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:26] <densone> then choose my db server
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:35] <densone> look under OS
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:48] <densone> then os processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:57] <_chris_> ya - you have to tell zenoss what OS processes you are interested in monitoring
[30-Apr-2008 04:04:05] <densone> I see
[30-Apr-2008 04:04:20] <densone> can you tell me where to set that
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:12] <_chris_> it's over on the left hand side
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:13] <_chris_> Browse By
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:15] <_chris_> Processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:16] <_chris_> i think
[30-Apr-2008 04:06:10] <densone> I see classes and processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:17:05] <densone> 2008-04-30 00:12:35 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for state01
[30-Apr-2008 04:17:23] <densone> can someone tell me what portscan plugin to install
[30-Apr-2008 04:29:16] <densone> _chris_, any idea how I can fix this
[30-Apr-2008 04:29:16] <densone> 2008-04-30 00:12:35INFOzen.ZenModelerno portscan plugins found for state01
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[30-Apr-2008 10:28:02] <thefish> hello, i am getting a lot of graphs (not all) for snmp monitored devices with "nan" in all values, any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[30-Apr-2008 10:28:32] <thefish> i have recently upgraded, and im pretty sure i was getting graphs before
[30-Apr-2008 11:28:36] <Nemie> Hi, I'm trying to run zenoss on a vserver guest. The guest is a CentOS 5 on a fedora 8 host and I get this every time I try starting zenoss: http://pastebin.se/194396
[30-Apr-2008 11:28:44] <adytum-bot> Title: [ pastebin.se ] - (at pastebin.se)
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:00] <Nemie> I have net-snmp-utils, net-snmp, net-snmp-libs, net-snmp-devel intalled and I did build zenoss from zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:01] <nemo_> do you have nett-snmp installed?
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:06] <nemo_> oh ok ;p
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:34] <nemo_> AttributeError: /opt/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:46] <nemo_> that does seem to point to a net-snmp issue tho
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:00] <Nemie> yeah, but what exactly?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:09] <nemo_> thats bad
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:17] <nemo_> how did you start zenoss the first time?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:29] <nemo_> seems like it didnt take its first time run hook
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:42] <nemo_> did you do /etc/init.d/zenoss start ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:56] <Nemie> that is the first try, this is the third guest I try to fix it on
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:07] <Nemie> no just service zenoss start
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:16] <nemo_> yeh thats the right way
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:33] <nemo_> basically its not installed properly if you get that error
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:43] <nemo_> without zope it wont function
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:45] <Nemie> what did I do wrong then?
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:03] <Nemie> rpm -Uvh zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:10] <nemo_> Uvh ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:25] <nemo_> that might be why, remove the rpm and do it again with ivh
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:28] <nemo_> not Uvh
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:32] <Nemie> ok
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:53] <Nemie> now, a stupid question, how do I remove a rpm??
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:03] <nemo_> rpm -e zenoss
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:27] <Nemie> what does the -e stand for? ( learn easier that way )
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:49] <nemo_> erase, man rpm will teach you far more than me btw ;p
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:09] <Nemie> hehe okay
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:20] <Nemie> I will try ivh, thanks
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:31] <nemo_> np, let me know how it goes
[30-Apr-2008 11:41:48] <Nemie> still the same problem...
[30-Apr-2008 11:41:55] <Nemie> I don't get it
[30-Apr-2008 11:42:35] <nemo_> well its kind of hard to diagnose from here,but my first zenoss install was like that
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:00] <Nemie> this is about my... ehm, 10th
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:07] <Nemie> none of them works
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:14] <Nemie> can't figure out why
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:28] <Nemie> Can it be that I am trying to install it into a vserver guest? or something, anything?
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:40] <nemo_> no i ihave one running in vmware
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:43] <nemo_> seems fine
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:55] <Nemie>
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:00] <nemo_> and i have seen that error before
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:08] <Nemie> I'm just trying to find some logical fail in this
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:14] <nemo_> its basically the first time script never gets run
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:36] <nemo_> which is what initializes zope etc
[30-Apr-2008 11:47:32] <Nemie> mm
[30-Apr-2008 11:54:05] <^dj^> hi eveyone! could someone recommend some good source on SMTP? I keep tripping over it...
[30-Apr-2008 11:55:41] <nemo_> ???
[30-Apr-2008 11:55:45] <nemo_> you mean snmp ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:31] <^dj^> haha
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:32] <^dj^> yes
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:40] <^dj^> sorry :-[
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:51] <nemo_> np, google on it tho
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:02] <nemo_> its pretty basic, until you get it, nothing will make sense
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:32] <^dj^> ah! i see
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:42] <^dj^> will keep at it, thanks ;-)
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:49] <nemo_> np
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:51] <nemo_> have fun
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:59] <^dj^> you bet
[30-Apr-2008 12:02:14] <Nemie> ok... I'm gonna give up, my httpd can't bind to anything...
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:06] <nemo_> httpd ?
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:12] <nemo_> whats that got to do with it ?
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:21] <nemo_> zenoss runs on zope, not httpd
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:34] <nemo_> id read up a bit
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:55] <Nemie> nah it's just that I need it for some other stuff
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:11] <Nemie> nothing seems to want to work, sshd works fine...
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:38] <nemo_> your call , but i assure you zenoss does work
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:54] <Nemie> then why doesn't it start
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:58] <Nemie> if it works
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[30-Apr-2008 15:31:24] <twm1010> **crickets chirp**
[30-Apr-2008 15:32:33] <_chris_> *nods*
[30-Apr-2008 15:32:53] <twm1010> Not quite so chatty in here, as of late.
[30-Apr-2008 15:33:21] <densone> question: when I model a device, it says there are no portscan plugins. I installed nmap on my system
[30-Apr-2008 15:33:29] <densone> what else can I do to make it port map
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:05] <twm1010> is it receiving any SNMP data from the box?
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:25] <densone> yeah
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:41] <densone> processing zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap for device admin01
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:15] <densone> i just ran snmp walk
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:18] <densone> can I paste it somewhere?
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:38] <twm1010> but you get a good abit of data back, so your SNMP is working
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:45] <twm1010> what device class are you putting this server into?
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:56] <twm1010> the device class determines what collectors run against it
[30-Apr-2008 15:36:23] <densone> http://pastebin.com/d62f944f9
[30-Apr-2008 15:38:01] <densone> Linux
[30-Apr-2008 15:38:52] <twm1010> not sure then
[30-Apr-2008 15:39:00] <twm1010> mine only gives that message when SNMP is not configured right
[30-Apr-2008 15:40:09] <densone> twm1010, may I see you snmp config?
[30-Apr-2008 15:40:15] <densone> Maybe mine is ganked
[30-Apr-2008 15:46:10] <twm1010> I don't think your config is ganked, i think you're not really seeing a problem
[30-Apr-2008 15:46:28] <twm1010> did you set your community string at the class level or the device?
[30-Apr-2008 15:48:40] <densone> http://pastebin.com/m7f38ace7
[30-Apr-2008 15:48:45] <densone> my snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:07] <twm1010> ah, not on the server side, but the Zenoss side, is the device already added or not?
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:49] <twm1010> thats a pretty basic snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:56] <densone> yeah totally
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:07] <twm1010> it looks locked down too
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:07] <densone> the device is added
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:33] <twm1010> there is a little utility you can run through to configure snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:40] <densone> really?
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:49] <densone> whats it called?
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:53] <twm1010> what OS?
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:44] <densone> ubuntu
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:47] <densone> linux
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:51] <densone> gutsy
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:05] <twm1010> ok, so cd over to /etc/snmp
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:08] <twm1010> and type snmpconf
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:22] <densone> yeah , I am looking at this tool now
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:42] <twm1010> make a backup of snmpd.conf first
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:56] <twm1010> the default utilizes a mechanism where it does authentication against a user account
[30-Apr-2008 15:54:03] <twm1010> i had no needs for such complexity, i ditched that entirely
[30-Apr-2008 15:54:28] <cgibbons> hurm
[30-Apr-2008 16:01:27] <densone> this snmpconf tool is pretty in-depth
[30-Apr-2008 16:01:37] <densone> anyone know where I can reference a simple sample
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[30-Apr-2008 16:03:31] <peteb> i just lost access to my zenoss out of the blue
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:46] <twm1010> pete: is it a VM or a physical box?
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:53] <peteb> using 2.1.3. netstat shows nothing listening on 8080
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:55] <peteb> vm
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:08] <twm1010> are the zenoss daemons running?
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:11] <peteb> i see python processes on 8100, 8081, 8789
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:42] <twm1010> type zenoss status at the prompt
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:52] <peteb> http://mibbit.com/pb/Ee6BqW
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:59] <adytum-bot> Title: Mibbit: PasteBin (at mibbit.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:05:39] <peteb> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[30-Apr-2008 16:06:00] <peteb> i've tried restarting via `service zenoss restart`
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:22] <twm1010> densone: if you can wait until this person sorts out their bandwidth issues, this was a great article on SNMP for me
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:30] <twm1010> its focused on Mac, but its good all around
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:31] <twm1010> http://www.nonstopmac.com/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1_1.htm
[30-Apr-2008 16:08:13] <twm1010> zopectl won't start then
[30-Apr-2008 16:08:18] <twm1010> did you make any recent changes
[30-Apr-2008 16:09:25] <densone> thanks
[30-Apr-2008 16:09:54] <twm1010> do some googling though, you'll find some stuff
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:27] <densone> http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1.html
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:32] <densone> found in google cache
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:34] <densone>
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:38] <twm1010> there ya go!
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:46] <adytum-bot> Title: bynkii.com: A Primer to SNMP on Mac OS X 10.5 and Mac OS X 10.5 Server (at www.bynkii.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:17] <twm1010> thats it! i tried to find it in my bookmarks and had to google it, i got a bad link i guess its a long damn read, but its
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:22] <twm1010> a really good explanation
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:43] <twm1010> if you want, you can skip to the section on using snmpconf
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[30-Apr-2008 16:32:24] <peteb> i'm seeing this in my error logs:http://mibbit.com/pb/DeasRV
[30-Apr-2008 16:32:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Mibbit: PasteBin (at mibbit.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:32:35] <peteb> database conflict errors
[30-Apr-2008 16:33:15] <peteb> i was actually just clicking through the interface when it died. no changes were being made
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:08] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:29] <densone> http://pastebin.com/d62f944f9 - so this snmpd config was actually pulled form the zenoss site
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:34] <densone> in their config
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:00] <densone> it used to work fine with zenoss 1.x for me
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:19] <densone> but, for some reason I am getting INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for db01
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:34] <densone> and cannot monitor ports like I used to
[30-Apr-2008 16:47:44] <densone> does anyone know what plugin its referring to?
[30-Apr-2008 16:56:28] <peteb> where is the mysql connection conf file?
[30-Apr-2008 16:59:27] <KulM> if you're looking for help you're probably in the wrong place... although I'm not sure what this chan is for if not for help
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[30-Apr-2008 17:52:23] <twm1010> peteb: are you talking about how Zenoss talks to MySQL?
[30-Apr-2008 17:52:34] <twm1010> its done in the GUI methinks, under event manager
[30-Apr-2008 17:57:35] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
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[30-Apr-2008 20:03:45] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 20:24:02] <densone> anyone here that can fill me in on this message? INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins
[30-Apr-2008 20:24:15] <densone> or how I can get more details to solve it
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[01-Apr-2008 00:04:08] <Ozux> damon, Sub interfaces? Is there and doc|man for this?
[01-Apr-2008 00:09:57] <damon> if you are running apache on a nix environment, you may want to create sub interfaces that you can attach each vhost too so that you can grab the traffic counters off of the interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:10:34] <damon> if its a windows box, you may be able to pull the information you are looking for right from wmi
[01-Apr-2008 00:12:36] <Ozux> damon, i use debian and centos, but unfortunately we use plesk and cpanel so i think using this method is not possible, is it?
[01-Apr-2008 00:15:12] <Ozux> and , do i need specific ip for eatch sub-interface?
[01-Apr-2008 00:17:00] <damon> ozux, i haven't dealt much with cpanel/plesk, but i would think that you would be able to rig something up. yes, you would need an ip for each sub interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:18:49] <damon> anyone know where a copmlete list of TALES device attributes could be found. i am looking specifically for the Tag attribute
[01-Apr-2008 00:21:07] <Ozux> damon, It's good solution, may be for Gold customers. But for 3000 custommers, writing new app is better than buying 3000 Valid IP ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:24:14] <damon> ozux - thats alot of sites - not sure on your infrastructure and application design etc, you might nat, vlan or share the ips
[01-Apr-2008 00:25:58] <damon> we have exclusivly a windows environment in our web farm (aside from my zenoss box), so if there is another way with apache i wouldn't be able to help
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:53] <Ozux> mmm, vlan is best, if i can't find software,script or solution i should dirty my hands with vlan and sub interfaces ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:56] <damon> ...so needless to say i am happy zenoss won't run on windows or i am sure management would force my hand to switch platforms
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:11] <damon> ok, well good luck with that -one nice thing about the whole virtual paradigm, - quick and easy to setup test labs and experiment
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:32] <damon> Ozux - are you doing any asset management with zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:28] <Ozux> damon, in fact no, ZenOSS is Pilot project, We are testing ZenOSS, Zabbix and Nagios for our Nexet,Central solution
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:39] <Ozux> s/Nexet/next
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:12] <Ozux> mow we have lots of cacti and mrtg and home-made scripts and awstat
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:20] <Ozux> s/mow/now
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:30] <Ozux> and managing all of them is impossible!
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:40] <damon> i see. yeah i can imagine!
[01-Apr-2008 00:32:26] <damon> have you seen zenoss's httpmonitor zenpak?
[01-Apr-2008 00:51:14] <Ozux> it monitor whole http transfer _i think_
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:23] <damon> it works really nice for websites: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:39] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 01:02:23] <damon> interesting little bot...
[01-Apr-2008 11:10:56] <hanthana> guys can we set alarms for zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 11:12:43] <DarkMats> Under preferences there are alerting rules. Is that what you're after?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:43] <sajithr> Is ZenOSS fail to monitor processes that has long command paths (i.e. java) using REGEX?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:56] <sajithr> can somebody help me with this?
[01-Apr-2008 15:47:47] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know anything about creating a page with several graphs on it?
[01-Apr-2008 15:57:20] <sajithr> is anybody know why ZenOSS's regex used to monitor processes are not behave as same as regex used with grep?
[01-Apr-2008 15:58:37] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: because it is Python Regex
[01-Apr-2008 16:08:04] <sajithr> ok..thanks..
[01-Apr-2008 16:09:40] <sajithr> Bulwinkle, Is ZenOSS can't evaluate regex across long command name (i.e java processes) while monitoring processes?
[01-Apr-2008 16:10:15] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: it should be able to evaluate any expression
[01-Apr-2008 16:16:48] <jberry> Hey, can anybody give me pointers on setting up httpmonitor? I've looked through the howto, but keep running into brickwalls
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[01-Apr-2008 17:24:24] <Funky_> Anyone ever try to set up thresholds from JMX data sources?
[01-Apr-2008 17:29:30] <jberry> Man, I gotta say, I completely cringe every time I try to use zenoss. I find the interface completely non-intuitive. It's never clear what I need to change where to make something work. It's like poking in the mud with stick.
[01-Apr-2008 17:32:33] <Funky_> jberry, try using the zenpacks :/
[01-Apr-2008 17:33:40] <jberry> Funky_: I'm trying to use the httpmonitor zenpack, but unclear how to proceed. The howto talks itself in circles without saying what to do.
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:03] <jberry> Can you give me any clues?
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:25] <jberry> I'm stuck on the paragraph "Complications" http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor/
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 17:35:00] <jberry> thanks, adytum-bot: yup. that's the page alright
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:07] <Funky_> jberry, i haven't used it sorry... I'm still trying to get the zenjmx pack to work
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:26] <jberry> ah, I see, another fellow sufferer.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:42] <Funky_> just a warning
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:54] <jberry> And just to think that jmx was next on my list after I got the simple thing of trying to monitor http done.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:55] <Funky_> there is hardly anyone in here that actually helps out much
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:05] <Funky_> and it takes days to get any kind of answer on the forums
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:15] <Funky_> that's IF you get an answer
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:26] <jberry> damn, maybe I should give up on zenoss
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:37] <Funky_> I'm trying to convince my boss of the same thing...
[01-Apr-2008 17:38:35] <Funky_> but in all honesty aside from the massive amounts of bugs zenoss is one of the more interesting monitoring apps
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:26] <jberry> Hmm. Too bad it's usage model is unpentrable by me and its documentation seems to suck so badly.
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:55] <jberry> Can you tell I'm frustrated?
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:07] <Funky_> I'm just as frustrated I can assure you
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:18] <Funky_> I think the docs were written by someone who's first language isn't english
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:28] <Funky_> some sentances don't even make sense
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <Funky_> but the model isn't too bad
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:44] <Funky_> it's an inheritence based model
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:12] <Funky_> I actually think that's one of the thigns zenoss does well (when it works)
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:27] <jberry> I get that feeling, but the interface doesn't really reflect the inheritence, so it's hard to figuure it out.
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:00] <Funky_> i agree
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:29] <Funky_> the correlation between events, classes and eventmappings etc are not very apparent
[01-Apr-2008 18:07:30] <Dittohead> Hi, I'm getting the following two errors in my ZenWinModeler log: "ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)" & "WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping [$SERVER] has bad wmi state" The login details are correctly set in zProperties. Thanks!
[01-Apr-2008 18:49:50] <jp10558> jberry: what is the question on Complications for HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 18:50:08] <jp10558> I recently started using that zenpack and have it working pretty well for *simple* monitoring
[01-Apr-2008 18:55:58] <jberry> jp10558: thanks for the reply. The how to for httpmonitor contains a section on "complications" (which I appear to fall into).
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:13] <jberry> But the suggestion on how to deal with the complications fly over my head, as a newbie.
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:57] <jberry> While it looks like I might be able to get through the howto in normal terms, I can't figure out how to approach the workarounds that are vaguely suggested in the howto.
[01-Apr-2008 18:57:20] <jberry> Any thoughts?
[01-Apr-2008 19:00:54] <jp10558> Well, I guess the first question is - what complication are you expecting to run into?
[01-Apr-2008 19:02:39] <jberry> That howto says that if I'm monitoring a website www.example.com, and if monitor that same server for other factors as foo.example.com, that I'll get errors, and that I need to take a completely different approach than what's described in the howto, which is where I get lost.
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:04] <jp10558> Oh
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:05] <jp10558> ok
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:16] <jp10558> that's actually dead easy to do, just mostly forget the HowTo
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:31] <jberry> and...do what?
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:51] <jp10558> Well, most of the how to is right, but really - the complications section seems wrong
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:00] <jp10558> all you have to do is install the zenpack
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:08] <jberry> okay, htat's done.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:13] <jp10558> and figure out how you want to apply it to machines
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jberry> don't know how to do that.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jp10558> this may be what they're trying to talk about
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:36] <jp10558> It comes down to what class (group) you want to use here
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:40] <jp10558> so if, you have for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:58] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:05] <jp10558> right...
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:09] <jberry> sure
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:12] <jp10558> and not all the systems are web systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:17] <jp10558> you'd normally create a subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:24] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux/Web
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:25] <jp10558> say
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:34] <jp10558> but, if some you want to do HTTPMonitor on
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:37] <jp10558> and some you don't
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:45] <jp10558> you have to figure how you want the classes to match up
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:58] <jp10558> that is, I've done Device/Server/Linux/Web/HTTPmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:13] <jp10558> and put the ones that I want all monitoring PLUS HTTPMonitor in the subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:33] <jp10558> but if every system in Device/Server/Linux/Web *should* have HTTPMonitor watching it
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:37] <jp10558> then you wouldn't need to do that
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[01-Apr-2008 19:07:53] <jp10558> I actually ended up doing subclasses for apache, but had HTTPMonitor apply to all web classes
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:04] <jp10558> Now the problem here, is I have to do it *again* for my Windows systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:22] <jp10558> I think that's OK, but you may not
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:41] <jberry> If I already have a device configured under Device/Server/Linux, how do I move it to Device/Server/Linux/Web?
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:45] <jp10558> however, there really isn't a good way to bunch Windows and Linux webservers together at a deeper monitoring level than *just* HTTPMonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:01] <jberry> Guess they need multiple inheritance...
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:03] <jp10558> Well, there's a dropdown
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:36] <jp10558> Let me find it
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:43] <jberry> Thanks for your help, btw
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:53] <jp10558> No problem
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:03] <jp10558> I'm not paying Zenoss so I figure I can help people out
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:08] <jp10558> so they can help me out when I get stuck
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:19] <jp10558> So, in the Device List
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:24] <jp10558> from the main management screen on the left
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:33] <jp10558> you can check the box on the left column next to the devices
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:49] <jp10558> There's the little down triangle just to the left of Device List in the blue header
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:55] <jp10558> that has Move To Class option
[01-Apr-2008 19:11:55] <jberry> Ah, yes, I think I see it.
[01-Apr-2008 19:12:03] <jberry> Thanks, I'll poke at this for a bit.
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:22] <jp10558> Does that clarify anything?
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:41] <jberry> yes, so far. I'll see if now I can follow the rest of the howto given that start.
[01-Apr-2008 19:15:41] <jp10558> The tricky part gets where you're binding the template, so feel free to ask if there's a question - well, it's a bugger with binding *any* template
[01-Apr-2008 19:22:49] <jberry> So I create a datasource of type httpmonitor, but I can just leave the parameterized hostname and ip address alone (${dev/id})?
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:31] <jp10558> Yea
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:44] <jp10558> You would set a variable for that
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:59] <jp10558> or specifically, I don't think you need to there
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:10] <jp10558> it get's pulled from the info when you add a device
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:21] <jberry> yeah, that's what I'd assume
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:26] <jberry> Okay, I think I created a performance template in the right place, and told it to bind.
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:53] <jberry> The howto says that any new devices added will get this template. But I've already got a device in that class. But it should inherit the template anyway?
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:30] <jp10558> Right
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:40] <jp10558> it doesn't matter if you already had a device there, it will get the template
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:50] <jp10558> but you do have to make sure you've bound it correctly
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:10] <jp10558> Does anything show up in the perf tab of the device?
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:19] <jberry> welll...
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:20] <jberry> no
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:05] <jberry> I do see something in history that makes me think it did a fetch on the device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:14] <jberry> maybe
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:41] <jberry> But I don't see a graph or anything else in Perf
[01-Apr-2008 19:37:45] <jp10558> Hmm
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:18] <jp10558> When you bound the template to the class, did you use the little pop-up dialog to Bind Templates, and use Ctrl-Click to highlight both Device and the HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:48] <jberry> Oh, maybe not. Let me try that again.
[01-Apr-2008 19:39:33] <jberry> So what do I bind together?
[01-Apr-2008 19:40:18] <jberry> It says "Bind Performance Templates" and has a list of verious things, including my WebIndexCheck template. But not the particular device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:44] <jberry> Ah, it's working now.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:55] <jberry> Maybe it just needed to roll over the 5 minute threshold
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[01-Apr-2008 19:51:57] <jp10558> That could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:04] <jberry> damn, now my other graphs stopped working.
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:13] <jberry> Maybe I unbound those?
[01-Apr-2008 19:56:56] <jp10558> Could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:08] <jp10558> Remember, you have to have everything you want highlighted in blue
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:10] <jp10558> in that dialog
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:24] <jp10558> So don't unselect Device for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:40] <jberry> So which template supplies things like load average?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:11] <jberry> Device, rigth?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:17] <jp10558> YEa
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:20] <jp10558> I believe so
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[01-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <locohost> hmm, isnt there some way to run the collector manually for debugging or something, im getting a bunch of blank spots in all my reports, and pretty regular intervals
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[01-Apr-2008 21:01:46] <locohost> anyone?
[01-Apr-2008 21:08:35] <locohost> well, something to work on tomorrow, i guess, late
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:17] <Funky_> jberry, my zenjmx threshold problem was fixed
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:18] <Funky_> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/8776
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Changeset 8776 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:04] <jberry> Funky_: cool
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:14] <jberry> Funky_: thanks for the help earlier
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:43] <jberry> I decided things on my system were too messed up, so reset the database and am now trying to start from ground zero.
[01-Apr-2008 22:08:08] <jberry> Unfortunately I can't remember the workarounds for some of the things I did last time I set this stuff up.
[01-Apr-2008 22:15:48] <jberry> oh yeah, figured it out.
[01-Apr-2008 22:31:12] <Funky_>
[01-Apr-2008 23:15:37] <jberry> Anybody know how I get a graph of filesystem usage?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:00] <Funky_> Create a graph based on the data point
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:01] <Funky_> ?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:14] <jberry> I'm trying to figure out where I do that
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:47] <Funky_> in the template that has that SNMP datapoint
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:48] <jberry> The filesystem template has a graph in it, but I don't see the graph showing up, and if I bind the file system template, all hell breaks lose.
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:56] <Funky_> hm
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:11] <Funky_> No graph in the perf tab?
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:18] <jberry> nope
[01-Apr-2008 23:37:08] <jberry> Ah, graphs for filesystem usage are inside the OS tab, by clicking on the specific file system.
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[02-Apr-2008 09:22:28] <DarkMats> What can I have missed if I don't get network map at all on a fresh install on debian?
[02-Apr-2008 09:22:58] <DarkMats> Oh, nevermind. Was local on the client
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[02-Apr-2008 14:32:13] <jp10558> I'm still trying to track down my issue with the MySQL Zenpack, and was wondering if anyone could provide any troubleshooting suggestions on that
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> Afternoon all: Anyone have any insight into this error:
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host ws1-249 and ws1-249.peopleplaces.org are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[02-Apr-2008 17:19:05] <jberry> Funky_: any hints on jmx setup? My zenjmx.log just tells me "timeout occurred during request". I wonder if I've got some fields wrong.
[02-Apr-2008 17:30:30] <likuidkewl> aedaemoen - That didn't work so well.
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:38] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: how so?
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:52] <aedaemoen> works fine for me
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:05] <likuidkewl> Are you running Zenoss on the localhost
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:12] <aedaemoen> yes.
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:18] <likuidkewl> and trying to monitor the local host
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:35] <aedaemoen> ... im monitoring like 20 - 30 devices total...
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:39] <aedaemoen> including the local machine, yes
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:44] <aedaemoen> why?
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:49] <likuidkewl> Argh! Ok I will look again.
[02-Apr-2008 17:39:51] <likuidkewl> The only way I can get mine to work even remotely is by running everything off of 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file. localhost ws1-249 and ws1-249.mydoman.com
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <likuidkewl> If I remove any one of those the web interface is down for the count.
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:55] <likuidkewl> even after a full on 5 minute reboot
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:30] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: you are setting them to the local LAN ip, right?
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:32] <aedaemoen> not the wan ip?
[02-Apr-2008 17:48:56] <likuidkewl> On the Zenoss box we are using 127.0.0.1 <tab> localhost <tab> ws1-249 <tab>ws1-249.ourdom.com as /etc/hosts
[02-Apr-2008 17:50:15] <likuidkewl> This "works" to allow us to get tot he box from the internal network and locally a the box.
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:06] <idea4gud> i am tryin to do snmpwalk on machine that is on the subnet as mine
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <idea4gud> but i cant get resp
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:19] <idea4gud> i am able to do localhost
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:31] <idea4gud> i tracert
[02-Apr-2008 18:11:11] <idea4gud> its just talkin to other machine
[02-Apr-2008 18:26:26] <aedaemoen> idea4gud: do you have the snmp port open?
[02-Apr-2008 18:27:44] <idea4gud> 161 rite
[02-Apr-2008 18:29:55] <aedaemoen> believe so.
[02-Apr-2008 18:30:24] <aedaemoen> good to see you have te subnetting the same now at least
[02-Apr-2008 18:31:56] <idea4gud> yeah i hav just added them and tried
[02-Apr-2008 18:32:05] <idea4gud> failed
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:26] <Funky_> jberry, you probably have the ports set wrong
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:37] <Funky_> did you enable JMX support on your JVM?
[02-Apr-2008 18:43:34] <jberry> Funky_: yes, and I can use jconsole remotely to get to it with the same authentication information I'm passing
[02-Apr-2008 18:47:00] <jberry> through zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:28] <magnachef> does anyone know why a bonded interface of two 1 G interfaces (eth0 and eth1) would show up as 10 Mb in SNMP/Zenoss?
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:47] <magnachef> this is for a CentOS 4.5 server
[02-Apr-2008 18:54:51] <Funky_> jberry, I cannot get authentication to work with zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:02] <Funky_> I had no choice btu to disable authentication on my JVM
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:14] <jberry> hmm. ouch
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:43] <jberry> Funky_: I'll have to spend a bit of time to troubleshoot that for them I guess.
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:12] <Funky_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:22] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:24] <Funky_> here is my post on that if you are interested
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:53] <jberry> Hmm. That's not quite the same error I'm getting, but maybe it is the same.
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:58] <jberry> same issue.
[02-Apr-2008 19:00:10] <Funky_> I wish you good luck
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:03] <jberry> If nothing else maybe I'll add some more logging to the java app so I can see what it thinks it's trying to do.
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:49] <Funky_> I found another bug as well
[02-Apr-2008 19:02:47] <jberry> Ooch. They ship that jmx connector with a whole tomcat. I wonder if they're running it under tomcat.
[02-Apr-2008 19:03:02] <Funky_> once you patch zenoss to actually get jmx thresholds to be reported, the escalate count number has no bearing at all
[02-Apr-2008 19:05:49] <idea4gud> I am tryin to add a device windows box I can snmp thru console but when i do it usin zen.DeviceLoader it gives me snmp found for the that IP
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[02-Apr-2008 20:43:55] <KA> Hi all, I noticed that all ipService I set up manually yesterday was somehow removed, any suggestion?
[02-Apr-2008 20:45:51] <KA> it happens the same when I remodel the node manually, so I guess is something related to zenmodel running
[02-Apr-2008 21:15:17] <idea4gud> locohost are you here
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:29] <idea4gud> i added my network using cidr format
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:59] <idea4gud> now i want my discovered device to show in the netwok but it doesnt show up
[02-Apr-2008 21:17:16] <idea4gud> also i do discover devices but no devices are listed
[02-Apr-2008 21:47:14] <mray> Greetings all, my name is Matt Ray and I'm the new Zenoss Community Manager. I'll be hanging out here and forums and everywhere else to help the community.
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:35] <jberry> greatings mray
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:47] <jberry> ...if I could spell
[02-Apr-2008 21:49:59] <mray> jberry: Nice to meet you.
[02-Apr-2008 21:50:35] <jberry> thanks. I'm pretty new to zenoss, and struggle mightily at times.
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:12] <jberry> so it's nice to see an effort to reach out to the community, rather than to just try to collect fees from them, which is what I've surmised so far...
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:41] <mray> Hopefully as I ramp up I'll be able to help out more. I'm actually new to Zenoss myself, today's my second day on the job. My last gig was at BMC, which really likes to collect fees
[02-Apr-2008 21:52:09] <jberry> heh
[02-Apr-2008 21:53:02] <jberry> right now I'm hacking on the source for the jmx collector, which I can't seem to get to work.
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:24] <mray> have you posted on the forum/mailing list?
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:52] <jberry> I haven't had real good response on the forum, so I'm staying away for now.
[02-Apr-2008 21:57:30] <mray> I would recommend posting a fairly detailed post, I know the developers are monitoring it, and if you have source up that'll help too. I know there are several java developers joining soon, so maybe I can point them at it
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:02] <Funky_> I'm glad to see Zenoss is picking up the pace
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:43] <mray> not that IRC isn't a good source of info, but at least the forums are more visible (and hopefully more responsive)
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:08] <mray> the forums and the mailing lists are supposed to be glued together with MailMan and Plone(?), so either one should be fine for following/subscribing
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:33] <mray> not Plone, phpBB
[02-Apr-2008 22:08:58] <lavermil> hello
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:04] <lavermil> I have a question with the isntall
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:11] <lavermil> on centos 5 via rpm
[02-Apr-2008 22:10:47] <lavermil> anyone alive?
[02-Apr-2008 22:11:48] <mray> I'm here, don't have a Centos install yet. But this was on the forum: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5358&highlight=centos
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Install-problems on CentOS 5.1 (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:13] <mray> does that look similar?
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:29] <lavermil> umm
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:33] <lavermil> let me check it out
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:38] <lavermil> sorry was reading ht forum stuff
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:55] <lavermil> basically my problem is it looks to have installed correctly, but I don't know how to access the install
[02-Apr-2008 22:20:32] <lavermil> yeah, read that one already.
[02-Apr-2008 22:21:23] <lavermil> does zenoss install and create a mysql database? if so what DB?
[02-Apr-2008 22:22:07] <lavermil> aah found hte sql files.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:08] <Funky_> it does
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <lavermil> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <Funky_> it creates a db called events
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> events database created and loaded
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> WARNING:OFS.Application:Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> 2008-04-02 14:16:46 WARNING OFS.Application Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:17] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:19] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:21] <lavermil> WARNING:zen.Events:Failed to refresh conversions, db connection failed.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:48] <lavermil> aah crap
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:52] <lavermil> I think i know hwat happened
[02-Apr-2008 22:24:02] <lavermil> bin/zenoss_init_post and bin/zenoss_init_pre both need to be updated with the root password
[02-Apr-2008 22:25:43] <mray> anyone have a recommendation for an OSX IRC client? Colloquy is killing my slow laptop
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:20] <lavermil> not sure is bitchx or scrollz is ported
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:24] <lavermil> those are good freebsd ones
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:07] <mray> I used xchat before, but my machine is on its knees
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:35] <lavermil> yikes. sounds like more ram is needed
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> --15:26:12-- http://172.20.17.71/
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> Connecting to 172.20.17.71:80... failed: Connection refused.
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:36] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:43] <lavermil> no firewall running or anything
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:46] <lavermil> do I need ot have zope installed?
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:27] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:31] <lavermil> the mysql user is correct
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:17] <lavermil> mysql -u zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> mysql> show databases;
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | Database |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | information_schema |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:24] <lavermil> | events |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:26] <lavermil> | test |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:28] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:30] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:36] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss status
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:48] <Funky_> and check to see if all the daemons are running
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:54] <lavermil> everythin returns except one.
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:59] <lavermil> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:14] <lavermil> I DO NOT have zope installed
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:20] <lavermil> do I need to install zope manually?
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:33] <lavermil> or does it have a stipped down version a part of the package?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:07] <Funky_> I don't think so
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:17] <lavermil> are you on a redhat version?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:21] <Funky_> but i've had random problems like that before
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:24] <Funky_> rhel4
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:31] <lavermil> do you use yum?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:33] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss restart
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:39] <lavermil> or up2date?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <Funky_> I used the rpm and installed from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <lavermil> or yast
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:47] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:50] <lavermil> maybe I should just do that.
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:54] <lavermil> I installed from the RPM
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lavermil> source = check for everything
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lavermil> rpm = check for only stuff told to check for
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:20] <Funky_> it's a simple install from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:51] <lavermil> I keep getting zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:37:19] <lavermil> I just isntalled and start zope, lets see what happens now.
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:08] <lavermil> hmm what source did you build from
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:12] <lavermil> htere is only fedora
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:17] <Funky_> latest svn
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:15] <lavermil>
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:20] <lavermil> what is the svn directory?
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:24] <lavermil> err url
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:49] <Funky_> svn co http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/trunk/inst zenossinst
[02-Apr-2008 22:42:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Revision 8802: /trunk/inst (at dev.zenoss.org)
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:44] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:47] <lavermil> I will try that
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:12] <Funky_> that version is better than 2.1.3 anyway
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <lavermil> is that more current?
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:29] <lavermil> is it devel?
[02-Apr-2008 22:47:31] <lavermil> where is the default install for it?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:11] <lavermil> Funky_ do you need to have httpd running or does zenoss use its own server?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:59] <lavermil> starting up the vmware appliance
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:32] <lavermil> i will play with the appliance for now.
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:34] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:08] <jberry> Funky_: got my jmx to go through. I had a firewall rule blocking access from the machine zenoss was running on, even though I could get to it from my development machine ;(
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:49] <jberry> Funky_: I too ran into the authentication issue. The authentication flag is never passed into the jmx code, and so it never uses the credentials.
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:28] <Funky_> jberry, i knew it
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:40] <Funky_> you're the only other person i know who's tried it
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:12] <jberry> mray: one upshot of the jmx problems I've been having is here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18044#18044. (I also had a separate problem which was of my own making).
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:05] <jberry> Funky_: I rebuilt the java jar that the jmx collector uses, to patch around the problem.
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:44] <jberry> oh, mray is gone. so much for community involvement
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:07] <Funky_> you patched the code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:11] <Funky_> heh
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:15] <Funky_> oh i see your post
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:17] <Funky_> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:00] <jberry> Funky_: actually I think the patch mentioned by the op in the forum is not applied in the released jmx code.
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:33] <Funky_> It's in the release notes...
[02-Apr-2008 23:54:54] <Funky_> Is it not in the actual code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:43] <jberry> It's not in the version of the jmx pack that I downloaded from here http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/.
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:57] <Funky_> actually... I think I did check the code and the changes are there
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:01] <Funky_> yes I remember I dide
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:02] <Funky_> did
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:08] <jberry> It is represented in the source tree, however.
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:20] <jberry> The jmx pack on the server still says version 1.0. Don't know how old that is?
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:28] <Funky_> not sure
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:43] <jberry> But it doesn't incorporate that change.
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:08] <jberry> How long ago was 2.1.3 released?
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:52] <Funky_> couple weeks ago max
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:06] <jberry> Hmm. I don't think they updated that zenpack.
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:23] <Funky_> I can't check my installation now...
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:55] <jberry> Well, based on my comparison the fix isn't in.
[03-Apr-2008 00:00:15] <Funky_> strange...
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[03-Apr-2008 00:00:44] <Funky_> Hi zenoss-logger, thanks for logging me
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:13] <Funky_> I'll bbl
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:28] <jberry> bye
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[03-Apr-2008 15:39:50] <jp10558> Does anyone here know how to get a graph of how many pages were printed from a printer over the last 5 minutes from an OID that tells you how many pages have been printed so far on the printer/cartridge?
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:31] <jp10558> That is, if the first check of the OID is 5, and the second check is 6, I want a sort of fill graph or something @ 1
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:43] <jp10558> the next check is 10, that should be at 4
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:52] <jp10558> next is 10 again, so graph ought to be at 0
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:18] <garnica> hi people, I have successfully run zenoss on vmware, I've tried to install it on my Suse10.3 as a monitoring server on my lap top i goes well but I get this message : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:38] <garnica> any idea of what can I do ??
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:22] <MoreDakka> Does anyone know if Zenoss requires a user to be pert of the Local Admin group on a Windows server to access WMI properly?
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:36] <MoreDakka> I don't really like giving Zenoss the ability to write to the servers...
[03-Apr-2008 16:31:42] <MoreDakka> Has anyone been able to get WMI to actually monitor services successfully? Like alert or even show a Red dot when the service is shutdown or disabled?
[03-Apr-2008 16:42:24] <jp10558> Yes, but the zenoss user MUST be an administrator
[03-Apr-2008 16:45:35] <MoreDakka> How would I do that with windows permissions? I've set the zenoss user in the local admin account but I'm pretty sure the only way I can think of is in the WMI Security settings to not allow the admin group write access...but that's the only way I know.
[03-Apr-2008 16:50:39] <jberry> Has anybody here used the apache monitor zenpack?
[03-Apr-2008 16:52:04] <jberry> There doesn't seem to be much documentation for it. I'm wondering if it allows me to specify authentication information so it can access a non-public status page?
[03-Apr-2008 17:12:02] <MoreDakka> Hm, zenoss is awesome. ZenWinMonitor noticed the service (example Windows Audio, had that set to True for "monitoring"), shut the service down...no alert, no red dot...I don't think Zenoss knows how to monitor services through WMI all that well.
[03-Apr-2008 17:38:13] <Funky-> jberry, still trying eh?
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:24] <jberry> Funky_: yeah.
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:39] <jberry> I've got things working pretty well.
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[03-Apr-2008 19:11:06] <magnachef> I've added monitoring of port 22 under IPService of a device, but I want to have it watching this port across an entire class. I can't find how to apply it to a whole class
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[03-Apr-2008 21:53:33] <magnachef> I added an IPService for port monitoring (ssh/22) on a device that for some reason wasn't showing as an instance for that device under "Classes"->"Services"->"IPService"->"Registered"->"ssh". Why did it not show up, and is there a way I can enable it across the entire class?
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[04-Apr-2008 11:47:36] <crazyminsc> good afternoon
[04-Apr-2008 12:56:06] <twm1010> morning !
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:31] <MoreDakka_> Morning. Do you use WMI for monitoring services and processes?
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:50] <MoreDakka_> and by you I mean anyone that is reading this ;-)
[04-Apr-2008 14:06:55] <jp10558> I do to some extent for services, I believe processes are monitored via SNMP in Zenoss
[04-Apr-2008 14:11:47] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to get a service monitored for a client and WMI is the only way that I can find to monitor a service...zenoss and wmi don't like eachother or something on my server.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:34] <jp10558> If your using Server 2008, then I think you're screwed, they are supposedly bug fixing for the new MS OSs
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:44] <MoreDakka_> Nope, 2003.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:45] <jp10558> if it's Server 2003/XP you should be OK
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:59] <jp10558> Make sure the user account is specified correctly and has admin access to the box
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:06] <jp10558> that is by far the most common error
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:08] <twm1010> oh he's done that
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:09] <twm1010>
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:18] <jp10558> hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:22] <MoreDakka_> "should". What happens is Zenoss will detect all the services and such. However when I bring down one of the monitored services zenoss does nothing.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:23] <jp10558> then I guess I can't help
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:32] <jp10558> Oh, yea
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:41] <jp10558> I've seen that recently - it's kind of weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:43] <twm1010> how did you add it
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:48] <twm1010> did you add it as a process or winservice
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:51] <MoreDakka_> no little red dot either.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:58] <MoreDakka_> Zenoss auto-detected.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:59] <jp10558> For a while I thought it was related to being '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:21] <MoreDakka_> I have the box in as /Device/Server/Windows as well.
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:26] <jp10558> but now it is working for me on '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass' and not on '/Device/Server/Windows'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:44] <jp10558> It started working after a zenoss restart - have you tried that (oddly enough)?
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:55] <MoreDakka_> So you are alerted when a Win Service drops?
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:04] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I've tried a zenoss reset :-|
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:32] <twm1010> I am, yes
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:34] <MoreDakka_> Lucky I'm listening to calming music or the zenoss box would be in pieces.
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[04-Apr-2008 14:26:00] <twm1010> the only issues i have with WMI are with Win2K NAS devices
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:16] <MoreDakka> :-/ I wish that was my only problem with WMI :-/
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:41] <twm1010> I'm curious, have you tried downloading the VMWare appliance, and starting that up and see if it has any issues doin the WMI?
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:44] <twm1010> wouldn't take you very long
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:53] <twm1010> that would rule out a problem with your zenbox or with your network/servers
[04-Apr-2008 14:30:23] <MoreDakka> Hmmm, nope haven't tried that yet. Might be worth a shot.
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:38] <jp10558> Hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:50] <twm1010> I think so...
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:00] <jp10558> I get alerted to one systems alerts, and not to others... it's kind of weird, but may well have to do with other alerting rules
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:04] <twm1010> I chose the VMWare appliance specifically so that the environment was what it was developed on.
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:20] <twm1010> jp: what alerting criteria did you pick?
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:42] <twm1010> i often wonder if multiple alerting rules will generate multiple e-mails for the same event
[04-Apr-2008 14:36:53] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm not currently working on WMI per se, so I don't know off the top of my head
[04-Apr-2008 14:37:20] <jp10558> I'm trying to find out how to graph a command datasource
[04-Apr-2008 14:43:42] <jp10558> Ok, I'm looking at a test system with WMI
[04-Apr-2008 14:44:06] <jp10558> And yea, it's not currently noticing on this one, but did for one in my subclass ... weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:35] <jp10558> If I have a command that outputs a number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:42] <jp10558> and I want to graph that number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:52] <jp10558> anyone know how to do that?
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:28] <jp10558> Yup, so now it's noticing in the '/nativePoll' subclass
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:29] <jp10558> weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:38] <jp10558> no issue for me though as I want to stick windows there anywayt
[04-Apr-2008 14:58:28] <jp10558> Anyone here do any command based graphing?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:27] <twm1010> what kind of data source
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:33] <twm1010> does it return back an integer?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:45] <twm1010> im doing it for my Netware monitoring
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:11] <jp10558> Yea, all it returns is an integer nuber
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:13] <jp10558> number
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:17] <jp10558> like 0 or 2
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:32] <jp10558> it often might be 0, but it could be a higher number like 100 sometimes
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:00] <jp10558> Actually
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:09] <twm1010> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:10] <jp10558> the command prints to the stdout the number
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:13] <jp10558> is that wrong?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:21] <twm1010> what does it actually return?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:26] <twm1010> copy and paste theline here
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:35] <jp10558> oh, what would come out
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> [zenoss@lnx90 printtest]$ bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:00] <jp10558> so if I run it as above
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:04] <jp10558> the second line, the 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:07] <jp10558> is all that's there
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:35] <twm1010> all my commands generate a line in a syntax so you get the datasource name and then the integer
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:00] <jp10558> So I want to have it returen
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:01] <jp10558> write
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:04] <jp10558> umm, like
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:09] <jp10558> pages 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:16] <jp10558> or what is the syntax?
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:04] <twm1010> yes
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:16] <twm1010> let me see what i get back from one of my nagios checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:54] <jp10558> Thanks for any info
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:00] <twm1010> ok, so my cpu load check for netware
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:02] <twm1010> runs this command
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:03] <twm1010> ./Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H 172.16.225.20 -v LOAD5
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:21] <twm1010> and i return : Load OK - Up 31 days 23 hours 30 minutes, 5-min load average = 0%|load5=0;0;0;0;100
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> my datasource checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:36] <twm1010> well, its just called load5
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:47] <twm1010> and it's getting the first value past the = sign
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:59] <jp10558> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:43] <jp10558> let's see what happens if I change it to
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> PagesPrinted1 = 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:39] <webtech> does anyone have Zenoss in debian package format?
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <KillMeNow> not as far as I know
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <jp10558> How do you have the datasource checking load5?
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:01] <webtech> for etch or ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:07] <jp10558> is that specified somewhere or is that just the name of the datasource
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:44] <KillMeNow> I've seen some documentation out there on how to get it to work in Ubuntu / Debian, but i don't think it's up on a repository
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:59] <webtech> i think i may have to make one
[04-Apr-2008 15:23:43] <KillMeNow> I know i've seen alot of people out there looking for it on Ubuntu for APT
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:03] <webtech> i have been reading alot of sites
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:06] <webtech> to make it work
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:56] <webtech> but i am getting lazy and installing a package is alot easier
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:03] <KillMeNow> well sure it is!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:15] <KillMeNow> i love apt!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:31] <KillMeNow> it's full of WINzor!
[04-Apr-2008 15:27:12] <webtech> i will have the check the debian rules before i start doing anything
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:03] <webtech> okie .. off to package making school
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:07] <webtech> l8r
[04-Apr-2008 15:38:58] <mray_> KillMeNow: I'm the Zenoss Community Manager and Ubuntu and Debian adoption are very high on my priority list. We have a few blockers that we're working on, I'll keep an eye out for webtech and talk to him about it some
[04-Apr-2008 15:39:57] <mray_> basically we're using an older version of Zope and Python, so they're not crazy about getting us in there yet
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:07] <mray_> and Debian has some reservations about our use of Flash
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:34] <mray_> but we're working on upgrading and making a non-Flash alternative, it just might take awhile
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:47] <mray_> I believe the Etch instructions are about to get revved
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:53] IzharFirdaus is now known as KageSenshi
[04-Apr-2008 15:49:23] <jp10558> yea twm1010 - still no joy
[04-Apr-2008 15:49:31] <jp10558> no idea what's wrong
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:03] <zenoss> hi people !! I have installed zenoss in my Suse10.3 laptop, then I want to start it by using the 'zenoss start' script... Daemons zeoctl and zopectl start ok, but zenhub gives me some messages:
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:40] <zenoss> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/__init__.py", line 27, in ?
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss>
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss> ImportError: libmysqlclient_r.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, for example
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:54] <webtech_m33> remember me, i was asking about Zenoss and Debian packages
[04-Apr-2008 16:59:18] <webtech_m33> i emailed Zenoss and they said that they will be in the atp repo in the next few weeks..
[04-Apr-2008 17:00:14] <zenoss> ok ... I will change my nick.... hold on.
[04-Apr-2008 17:01:26] <mray> greetings webtech, I emailed you from my @zenoss email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:18] <webtech_m33> mray .. ty for the email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:33] <webtech_m33> mray can i download those today off of a site some where?
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:37] <garnica> ok
[04-Apr-2008 17:05:54] <mray> we're working on having fresh .debs put out every release, but we haven't gotten them made yet. Right now we only have source instructions for Debian/Ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:04] <mray> today's my 3rd day on the job
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:39] <webtech_m33> nice
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:05] <webtech_m33> i was going to install from source .. but deb files are easier to install
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:35] <mray> agreed
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:42] <garnica> looks like python 2.5.1 in Suse10 won't work with zenoss.... I can not start the zenhub daemon ..... any idea ?
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:14] <mray> I believe it's because we're using an old version of Zope that doesn't work with 2.5
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:27] <mray> another part of getting our act together
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:31] <mray> garnica: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-from-source/
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:47] <garnica> ok... checking out mray !
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install from Source - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:03] <mray> I'm going to be pushing the devteam to get onto a newer version of Zope, which will get us onto a newer version of Python, which will make installation a lot easier, and help get us into more distributions
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:15] <mray> and make more people happy
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:44] <garnica> ok.... this is what happens ..... if you have suse 10.3 make sure you have python 2.3.5 'cause you may have python 2.5 or any other ..... so make a downgrade !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:53] <garnica> thanks people !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:16:02] <garnica> see ya'
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:00] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with my command data source
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:07] <jp10558> Still not getting any graph from it
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:23] <jp10558> Is there a specific input/output needed?
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:43] <jp10558> do I need to do something like return in the bash script vs outputting to stdout?
[04-Apr-2008 18:42:15] <posix^> using wmic, I'm getting 3 values for the 'Name' field of 'Win32_OperatingSystem', is this normal?
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:16] <webtech_m33> hey guys, when i go to install zenoss from tarball
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:19] <webtech_m33> i get a
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:52] <webtech_m33> Permission denied
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:12] <webtech_m33> usr/bin/python2.4 genpatchdeps.py >.patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:23] <webtech_m33> bin/sh: cannot create .patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:30] <webtech_m33> any ideas?
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:11] <Funky_> webtech_m33, has to be directory permissions
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:51] <posix^> Funky_: know anything about wmic?
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:19] <Funky_> not really sorry
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:27] <posix^> doh..
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:52] <Funky_> I've given up on zenoss I don't even know why I am still here, heh
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:20] <posix^> hahah, whoa.
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:45] <posix^> I'm just using their wmic tool..
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:54] <posix^> are you using another product?
[04-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <Funky_> still evaluating
[04-Apr-2008 20:22:08] <Funky_> but zenoss extremely broken implementation of JMX was the deal breaker
[04-Apr-2008 20:31:39] <posix^> hm
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[05-Apr-2008 04:00:55] <idea4gud> any1 out there
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[06-Apr-2008 06:55:31] <nima0102> hi everybody
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:01] <nima0102> I have not installed ZenOss still, one question?
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:21] <nima0102> Is ZenOss based on Python?
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:19] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
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[07-Apr-2008 10:13:12] <danw> hello
[07-Apr-2008 10:14:39] <danw> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 12:40:21] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 13:03:16] <Blinny> Is there anything special I need to do to model a WinNT4.0 server? I installed Windows SNMP service, and modeled the machine under Servers/Windows but am coming up blank. I do have a WMI Connect Error on {hostname} in my event log.
[07-Apr-2008 13:14:11] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: look in the zproperties for the /Server/Windows in the Devices and set the password and username for the servers you are going to model. If you need to use a domain user make sure that you do (DOMAIN)/(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:15:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: correction (DOMAIN)\(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:43] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Thank you. I was searching on 'wmiusername' or 'wmipassword' - I'm guessing this is relevant to an older version of Zenoss.
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:50] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Do I then remodel the device?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:06] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: yes... have you installed snmp-informant?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:37] <Blinny> I'm not sure what that is, so I'm guessing the answer is 'No'.
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: it is needed to do any SNMP monitoring... http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:39] <Bulwinkle> install that, it doesn't really change anything but adds mibs so that ZenOSS can monitor your system via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:25:19] <Blinny> I know the SNMP functionality of Windows NT is pretty weak. I was hoping to just get traps forwarded on to my monitoring Zenoss box.
[07-Apr-2008 13:26:57] <Blinny> Yuck. snmp-informant does not list NT4 as a product with which it is compatible.
[07-Apr-2008 13:28:08] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: if you want to do that you can always set the box to not be monitored via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:08] <Blinny> True. Right on.
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:12] <Blinny> Thanks Bulwinkle
[07-Apr-2008 13:35:23] <Bulwinkle> np
[07-Apr-2008 14:49:51] <jp10558> Ok, I think this may be a question regarding RRD more than Zenoss, but here goes. I was under the impression that Guage just graphed the number that came into RRD - but I do recall there is some averaging going on. Is there a way to turn that off?
[07-Apr-2008 14:50:21] <jp10558> I'm trying to graph the number of pages printed in since the last cycle
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:13] <jp10558> but in my recent tests I printed 7 pages, and got 6.2 pages graphed. I don't think this will work that well for us as the printer can't print part of a page really, it just indicates total numbers...
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:26] <jp10558> Any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:40] <mrayzenoss> I might suggest posting to the forums/mailing list.
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:48] <mrayzenoss> with more details of your version/setup
[07-Apr-2008 15:17:39] <jp10558> Hmmm, another question - anyone know why my command datasource would work if I run zencommand in debug mode, but not if running normally?
[07-Apr-2008 15:35:36] <locohost> you can compile net-snmp on windows,
[07-Apr-2008 17:05:21] <lazarus477> Hello. I have just discovered Zenoss while reading about Nagios. I am wondering if Zenoss uses plugins to enable monitoring of hosts, plugins at the hosts ends?
[07-Apr-2008 17:10:43] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss uses ZenPacks, which are bundles of specialized monitoring configurations for applications/OSes/devices
[07-Apr-2008 17:25:54] <lazarus477> I see. Thank you.
[07-Apr-2008 17:26:09] <lazarus477> Anyone here used Zenoss on NetBSD?
[07-Apr-2008 17:49:39] <lazarus477> Can Zenoss monitor the status of SAMBA and OpenVPN? If not I asume there is a facility to make it simple enough to implement for admins?
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:30] <lazarus477> I see for adding funktionality I use ZenPacks, just got that in the online docs.
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:54] <lazarus477> But I would like to know. Where can I find out about which services it is able to monitor using default packs?
[07-Apr-2008 17:51:03] <lazarus477> Is there a listing somewhere?
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:05] <lazarus477> Ok just found documentation on that as well, eesh I feel like such an noob bothering ya all with such simple questions.
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:34] <lazarus477> So do many of you bother with writing custom zenpacks or do you just make due with the available ones?
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:07] <lazarus477> O I see Zenoss supports Nagios plugins, how wonderful! That is good.
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:24] <lazarus477> Tell me. Is the google maps feature available in the community edition?
[07-Apr-2008 18:06:39] <jp10558> I believe so lazarus477
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:43] <idea4gud> hi guyz i have query :
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:51] <idea4gud> I am trying to add a OS process
[07-Apr-2008 18:09:09] <idea4gud> i hav zenoss 2.1.3 runnin on centos 5
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:01] <idea4gud> i try add OS process and it says Zpublisher.publish module has error
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:05] <lazarus477> Yep just saw the google maps feature is in the core edition for community use.
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:45] <idea4gud> so is this bcz of i dont hav plug in installed or there is some other problem
[07-Apr-2008 18:13:57] <idea4gud> pastebin.ca/975633
[07-Apr-2008 18:35:38] <jp10558> Anyone know where Zenoss stores .rrd files for a created command data source?
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:07] <idea4gud> what would you suggest the best way to monitor Win2k3 server
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:15] <idea4gud> using the WMI plugin
[07-Apr-2008 18:47:51] <jp10558> Hmm - yea I think the WMI Zenpack is the best IMO
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:08] <jp10558> though, I would also look at the newer advanced WMI Zenpack listed in the newsletter
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:16] <jp10558> http://blog.dastrup.com/?p=13
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Advanced WMI Performance Monitor ZenPack for Zenoss Core | Dastrup Tech Logs (at blog.dastrup.com)
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[07-Apr-2008 19:08:32] <idea4gud> thnx JP
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[07-Apr-2008 19:31:00] <Rayen> Hello, I was just wondering to what kind of problems does ZenOSS's network monitor offer a solution?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:27] <jp10558> ?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:41] <jp10558> I'm not sure what you mean Rayen
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:52] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:12] <Rayen> Well ZenOSS offers a product (So it's a solution to a certain problem)
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <Rayen> But what exactly is the problem?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <jp10558> danw__: I think you should contact Zenoss sales for that question
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:54] <jp10558> Rayen: Oh. The problem is servers/services/computers going down, and you not knowing so you can fix them
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:18] <jp10558> I.E., it helps to know if your e-mail server has died before all the users start calling you
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:39] <jp10558> or if your outside web page has gone down, it helps to know before you lose lots and lots of traffice
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:01] <Rayen> So it's actually a program which allows system administrators to monitor availability, inventory/configuration, performance and alerts?
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:06] <Rayen> (webbased)
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:02] <jp10558> Yes
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:12] <jp10558> What did it come across as to you from their site?
[07-Apr-2008 19:41:21] <Rayen> I didn't really understand why this product was on the market... but now it makes sense
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:18] <idea4gud> jp: whats diff b/w Zenplugin and Zenwinpack
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:33] <idea4gud> info i got is former is used to monitor thru SSH
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:51] <idea4gud> and l8r is used to monitor using SNMP agent
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:56] <idea4gud> did i get correctly
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[07-Apr-2008 19:58:21] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: A ZenPack contains a zenplugin which provides functionality, I don't know about the ZenWinPack
[07-Apr-2008 20:03:57] <jp10558> I'm not really sure what the ZenWinPack is?
[07-Apr-2008 20:04:39] <jp10558> Did you mean the WindowsWMIDeviceTemplate or Advanced WMI Performance Monitor?
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[07-Apr-2008 20:22:25] <locohost> so, when you model a device, it wont pickup hostname changes?
[07-Apr-2008 20:23:34] <magnachef> yeah, it should
[07-Apr-2008 20:27:48] <locohost> heh,
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:33] <idea4gud> I am tryin run wbemtest when i click connect dialog offers me connect options
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:49] <idea4gud> i enter \root\cimv2 as given in Document
[07-Apr-2008 20:32:07] <idea4gud> and enter admin user id and pwd
[07-Apr-2008 20:34:44] <idea4gud> it returns with error : user credentials cannot be used for local connections
[07-Apr-2008 20:36:40] <idea4gud> i solved it
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <idea4gud> http://blog.zenoss.com/tag/open+source+monitoring this entry says i dont need Zenwin to monitor WMI service
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:39] <idea4gud> i have 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <idea4gud> running
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Apr-2008 20:52:58] <idea4gud> so does it mean i dont hav to download and install ZENWIN separately on machine Centos Server
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:47] <locohost> dont listen to magnachef, he's a bad seed
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:57] <magnachef>
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[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> Oh trust me. He's a bad seed. He's a horrible seed. He's one of the worst
[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> seeds I've ever seen.
[07-Apr-2008 21:47:55] <idea4gud> i have zenwin model present in zenoss 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 21:53:04] <idea4gud> but when i try to do zenwin i cant do\
[07-Apr-2008 22:13:50] <danw__> hey guys i'm just install zenoss now and i'm getting "unable to find the "patch" program"
[07-Apr-2008 22:14:09] <danw__> anyone got any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:28] <lochii> hi, for when people are around
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:42] <lochii> am getting this error trying to add a device on latest stable version of core, for freebsd 6.2:
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:45] <lochii> 2008-04-07T23:32:46 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://zentest.test.com:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:48] <lochii> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:51] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:53] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:56] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:59] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 128, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:02] <lochii> except e:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:04] <lochii> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:06] <lochii> the bad exception handling is hiding the real problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:24] <lochii> which is actually this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:29] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 120, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:31] <lochii> statusMonitors, performanceMonitor, discoverProto)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:34] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 103, in manage_createDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:37] <lochii> zSnmpCommunity, zSnmpPort, zSnmpVer)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:40] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 180, in findCommunity
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:43] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:45] <lochii> AttributeError: SnmpSession instance has no attribute 'setVersion'
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:48] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:00] <mrayzenoss> danw__: patch is part of most developer environments I assume
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:09] <lochii> looking at pynetsnmp's "SnmpSession.py" , the method is clearly there:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> def setVersion(self, version):
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> if version.find('2') >= 0:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_2c
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> else:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_1
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:19] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:28] <lochii> have tried to rebuilt pynetsnmp but no joy
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:48] <lochii> am not a python person, so don't know what the .pyc does, it it python compiled bytecode?
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:12] <mrayzenoss> lochii: yes
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:27] <lochii> and ideas why it doesn't find this methof
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:28] <lochii> method
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:35] <lochii> I dont have pynetsnmp installed anywhere else on the system
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:55] <lochii> and why it calls it an "attribute"
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:14] <lochii> have seen pynetsnmp 0.28 is release (this is 0.27 bundled with zenoss)
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:17] <lochii> released
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:09] <mrayzenoss> sorry, I'm just getting up to speed
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:18] <mrayzenoss> forums?
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:22] <lochii> I found one post
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:27] <lochii> no repl
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:30] <lochii> no useful replies
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:36] <lochii> so it has happened to somebody else
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:13] <lochii> so the code in Device.py does this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:15] <lochii> session = SnmpSession(ip, timeout=timeout, port=port, retries=retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> sysTableOid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> oid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodcommunity = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodversion = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> devname = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:26] <lochii> for version in versions:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:29] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:31] <lochii> <snip>
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:34] <lochii> and it dies at "session.setVersion(version)"
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:45] <lochii> either because the session class does not have a setVersion (but I'm sure it does)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:48] <lochii> or the session object is invalid
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:52] <lochii> either one of the two
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:55] <lochii> how can I debug this?
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:05] <lochii> I tried putting in the following lines:
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession ip = %s", ip)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession timeout = %s", timeout)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession port = %s", port)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession retries = %s", retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:17] <lochii> but I dont know where log.debug goes, it doesn't seem to go into any of the logs I found
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:01] <lochii> I should first check that I have a valid session object shouldn't I?
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:11] <lochii> before I start accusing the module of stuffg
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:48] <lochii> and yes, I added:
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:50] <lochii> export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:57] <lochii> to head of zenfunctions
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:03] <lochii> before starting zope
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:07] <lochii> and I do have /lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:22] <lochii> but I dont know how to check if that actually worked
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lochii> hmm
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lochii> I think I may have found the problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:32] <lochii> tracing through ZOPE it seems not to be hooking in properly with libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:36] * lochii digs deeper
[07-Apr-2008 22:38:34] <lochii> I see
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[08-Apr-2008 00:11:30] <KillMeNow> hello folks
[08-Apr-2008 01:50:41] <KeithBilly> Hello, I have 2.1.3 and a monitor under ip services isn't using the ip i've defined. It keeps using the default ip. I've deleted the monitor and re-added and it won't check the right ip, what am i missing.
[08-Apr-2008 02:08:58] <KeithBilly> Can someone please point me to the work around for fixing mointors in ip services ignoring the ip address i've put in them?
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[08-Apr-2008 06:00:53] <Vco> anyone have any quick pointers on where I can start trying to determine why I'm not able to pull any CPU stats from my Linux boxes? SNMP appears to be working for everything else..
[08-Apr-2008 06:00:59] <Vco> starting to lose my mind
[08-Apr-2008 13:48:26] <julito> hi everybody
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:39] <julito> I'm newbie in zenoss
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:56] <julito> i'm trying it for 2 days and i need some help
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:20] <julito> I'm not able to have something on the network map
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:28] <julito> it's empty
[08-Apr-2008 14:20:42] <djpetro> julito: I had that problem, but I was just entering the wrong subnet. try entering the ip of your gateway (if you have it modeled)
[08-Apr-2008 14:28:05] <julito> djetro : thx, Does it matter if the gateway doesn't respond to snmp?
[08-Apr-2008 14:36:35] <djpetro> julito: I don't think so. there's also an issue with subnets in zenoss, see http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6049
[08-Apr-2008 14:36:52] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Question regarding subnets. (at community.zenoss.com)
[08-Apr-2008 14:36:57] <djpetro> julito: chet luther has a work around listed there
[08-Apr-2008 14:40:02] <julito> djpetro : thanks a lot, i will try it
[08-Apr-2008 14:46:58] <cgibbons> hmmm
[08-Apr-2008 15:53:53] <locohost> when you rename a device, you have to move the rrd folder manually if you want to keep your data, that's pretty intuitive
[08-Apr-2008 18:06:16] <twm1010> Howdyhowdy...
[08-Apr-2008 18:17:12] <idea4gud> hi i am trying to monitor win2k3 server I have zenwin, zenwinmodeler and zeneventlog running
[08-Apr-2008 18:18:44] <idea4gud> $ZENHOME/bin/zenwin --option
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:00] <idea4gud> it just retruns the pid and status msg that program is running
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:33] <idea4gud> Also when i chaeck in the Zenoss dash board
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:07] <idea4gud> it says under Events of windows device that access is denied
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:14] <idea4gud> what could be possible reason
[08-Apr-2008 18:23:09] <djpetro> idea4gud: you might need to specify a username and password. checkout zWinUser and zWinPassword under the zProperties of the windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:25:58] <idea4gud> yeah i need to specify zwinuser as the zpassword as password of Windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:57:36] <idea4gud> djpetro: i specifed user id and password in my windows server zproperties as the user id and password of my windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 18:58:13] <idea4gud> but it still shows just same error
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:25] <djpetro> idea4gud: if it's a domain user, make sure you specify domain\username
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:44] <djpetro> also, try remodeling or deleting and recreating the device
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:46] <idea4gud> also I have added WInService as Application management But it doesnt provide me information
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[08-Apr-2008 20:10:13] <mrayzenoss> So are there any Zenoss employees on here besides myself?
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[08-Apr-2008 21:26:11] <idea4gud> I am able to run winexe service from console on my zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:35] <idea4gud> but i am not getting the desired response from zenwin and zenwinmodeler
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:42] <idea4gud> can any body help me plz
[08-Apr-2008 21:28:21] <idea4gud> locohost: are you still around
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:17] <magnachef> he's leaving
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:34] * magnachef works with locohost
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:09] <idea4gud> magna: can i ask you look at my query
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:24] <idea4gud> confused
[08-Apr-2008 21:34:15] <idea4gud> magna: i am able to get right response with ./winexe but when i try running zenwin and zenwinmodeller and eventlog
[08-Apr-2008 21:35:53] <magnachef> I don't use windows systems, but I'll take a look
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:29] <idea4gud> Ok i checked with zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:45] <idea4gud> on server for zeneventlog it says heartbeat failure
[08-Apr-2008 21:37:43] <magnachef> hmm...
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:31] <magnachef> not sure what the issue is...what does heartbeat refer to?
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:35] <magnachef> is it timing out?
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:17] <idea4gud> please pardon any silly questions but i am was just wondering do we need to install any other zenpack or something tp monitor windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:32] <idea4gud> as of now i have SNMP enabled and DCOM running
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:48] <idea4gud> Performed wbemtest successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:20] <idea4gud> but still the zenwinmodeller says my windows machine has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <idea4gud> any hints
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:48] <magnachef> I don't think so, you just have to put it under the /Devices/Windows class
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:34] <magnachef> and make sure that snmp is running on the server, and that you have the correct community string and that you have permission to poll it from your zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:58] <idea4gud> yes
[08-Apr-2008 22:47:47] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:07] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler node 146 has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:19] <magnachef> ahhh, so you're polling it via WMI and not SNMP?
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:56] <idea4gud> well first i setup SNMP
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:02] <idea4gud> i got this discovered
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:06] <idea4gud> on the network
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:19] <idea4gud> but it didnt provide me any further info i was looking for
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:37] <idea4gud> then i followed the docment that said about Monitoring Windows devices
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:50] <magnachef> maybe WMI isn't available/running/etc on the windows server?
[08-Apr-2008 22:50:24] <idea4gud> well i did perform wbemtest it ran successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:53:05] <idea4gud> i checked the WMi was running fine
[08-Apr-2008 22:55:13] <magnachef> not sure...WMI is not my strong suit
[08-Apr-2008 22:56:09] <idea4gud> ok thanx anyways for ur help
[08-Apr-2008 22:59:09] <magnachef> no problem
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[09-Apr-2008 10:45:00] <henkka_> I have a rather simple question that I can't find an answer from the zenoss web page, wiki or irc logs; Should "System Update" work for the VMWare Appliance beta 2.2?
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:17] <henkka_> doing 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core' works
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:28] <henkka_> but 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta' does not
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:40] <henkka_> Just to make sure this at least makes it to the IRC logs; selecting "System Update" from the rPath web interface gives: "Looking for available updates ...
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:43] <henkka_> Failed: (Unknown Exception Type) group-zenoss was not found on path zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta"
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:03] <danw__> hey guys getting a small error
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:05] <danw__> during install
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:07] <danw__> *****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> installing pysnmp
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> unpacking Twisted-2.5.0 in build/
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: bzip2: command not found
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: build/Twisted-2.5.0: No such file or directory
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:23] <danw__> can't find file to patch at input line 3
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:25] <danw__> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:28] <danw__> The text leading up to this was:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:30] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:33] <danw__> |--- TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py.orig 2006-12-27 11:42:32.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:36] <danw__> |+++ TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py 2006-12-27 11:42:38.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:40] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:42] <danw__> File to patch:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:45] <danw__> ****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:47] <danw__> anyone got any ideas
[09-Apr-2008 13:14:20] <henkka_> danw__: at least you're missing bzip2, start by installing that
[09-Apr-2008 13:16:13] <henkka_> danw__: the second error is most likely caused by the first one (file is not found, since it has not been unpacked from the archive)
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:07] <danw__> henkka_: thanks that seemed to have worked
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:29] <danw__> also am i correct in saying that i can install nagios plugins to zenoss?
[09-Apr-2008 15:59:19] <danw__> how can i remove zenoss from my debian box, i'm not really impressed with it?
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:10] <mrayzenoss> danw__: I assume everything is in /usr/local/zenoss
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:23] <mrayzenoss> danw__: anything specifically you didn't like?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:50] <JVirus> anyone to help a noob for a minute?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:53] <JVirus>
[09-Apr-2008 17:13:34] <JVirus> I nstalled Zenoss to Vmware, I also got the SNMP services running on my windows 2003 server
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:03] <JVirus> do I need to install something on my server to speak with zenoss or where is the windows configuration and some documentation on how it all integrates?
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:28] <JVirus> I have a SNMP book but it talkes about it while installing some other SNMP book because he doesnt like windows
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:34] <JVirus> not very helpfull
[09-Apr-2008 17:18:38] <JVirus> O.o
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:23] <idea4gud> Hi need a help with anyone for Windows monitoring
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:34] <idea4gud> Can anybody help me
[09-Apr-2008 17:42:33] <idea4gud> is there anyone around
[09-Apr-2008 17:43:14] <idea4gud> stuck with this problem zen.zenwinmodeler Skipping node 146 has bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 17:47:25] <idea4gud> do i need to install Zenwin on WIndows server
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:35] <jp10558> no
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:49] <jp10558> you don't need to install Zenwin
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[09-Apr-2008 19:31:59] <aedaemoen> hello guys...
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:03] <idea4gud> jp: i have this error that i am trying to debug since 2 days Bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:33] <idea4gud> Now i checked this wiki :http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToSetupZenWin
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:47] <__adytum-bot__> Title: HowToSetupZenWin - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[09-Apr-2008 19:39:27] <idea4gud> I am meeting all the requirements for the Windows machine
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[09-Apr-2008 20:40:28] <JVirus> I am new to linux and vmware, I finally figured out how to configrue snmp to run on my server but how do I get hamachi to run on zenoss server?
[09-Apr-2008 20:41:34] <JVirus> I looked thru the forums but didnt find anything
[09-Apr-2008 20:48:02] <BRKA> hi, quick question: I have a device that appears in the device issues portlet but the device itself has no issues or events, deleting and adding it again did not fix it. Any ideas ?
[09-Apr-2008 21:05:33] <mray> BRKA: You'll probably want to wipe the events status table
[09-Apr-2008 21:18:12] <BRKA> mray: k, found it in /Events/Net/Link. It appears that snmp trap sent by this device BEFORE it was added caused this. Thanks.
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[09-Apr-2008 22:26:55] <idea4gud> Push changes do in /devices/server/Windows
[09-Apr-2008 22:52:37] <idea4gud> can u please any1 help me understanding this post : pastebin.ca/978928
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[10-Apr-2008 05:47:41] <e^ipi> heyas
[10-Apr-2008 06:44:54] <henkka_> anyone here who knows how the VMWare appliance is supposed to work? Still need answer to my question from yesterday.
[10-Apr-2008 06:47:01] <henkka_> Or am I incorrect in my assumption that the VMWare appliance is supposed to be a carbon-copy of the preferred installation method on Linux systems? It strikes me as odd that for example the zenpack command won't work and one must use conary instead (that is somehow related to the rPath platform). Why not just provide WMWare image with the suggested Linux platform, if the VMWare appliance is not supported during development?
[10-Apr-2008 06:51:59] <e^ipi> I don't think anyone's around this late at night
[10-Apr-2008 08:07:19] <henkka_> e^ipi: I posted the question 22 hours ago, I guess no-one checks the irc logs?
[10-Apr-2008 08:08:19] <henkka_> I'll just file this as a bug then.
[10-Apr-2008 12:46:36] <jp10558> Anyone know why a command datasource would work if I manually run zencommand, but not through the normal polling?
[10-Apr-2008 12:57:56] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: ummmm not really, but I'm not using any zencommands
[10-Apr-2008 13:04:56] <nemo__> hoi
[10-Apr-2008 13:57:30] <locohost> anyone know a good source for info on adding devices through api?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:31] <nemo__> api ?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:38] <nemo__> i didnt know there was one
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:52] <locohost> wget 'http://admin::YADDAYADDA@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addLocation?deviceName=IP-NUMBER&devicePath=/New`
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:58] <locohost> something like that, to add devices
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[10-Apr-2008 14:24:18] <nemo__> locohost, i was aware of that, but i wouldnt call that an API
[10-Apr-2008 14:24:29] <nemo__> id call it doing a wget on a url and passing an arg
[10-Apr-2008 14:26:14] <locohost> heh, yeah, im trying to figure out exactly how i want to hit what url, what i did above doesnt seem to work. also, i am running the script from that box, so i might be able to use zendmd or something, not exactly sure
[10-Apr-2008 14:27:28] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget -o >/dev/null "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:04] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:26] <nemo__> someone shoot that bot
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:04] <nemo__> so your trying to set the location in yours locohost
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:10] <nemo__> not add a device
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:14] <locohost> that might explain why it didnt work
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:15] <locohost>
[10-Apr-2008 14:40:24] <Blinny> How can I change the severity of reported traps? For example, I have a server with two PSs, and when one is removed, the severity of 'redundancy lost' is only 2 I think. I'd like to red-flag the server when this occurs.
[10-Apr-2008 14:41:17] <nemo__> use a transform to adjust it
[10-Apr-2008 14:43:51] <Blinny> nemo__: I see in the admin guide on page 87 where it talks about this. Thank you - I'll do some reading.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:13] <nemo__> no probs bob ;p
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:37] <Blinny> I'm glad I found you.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:40] <Blinny> Sorry... couldn't help it.
[10-Apr-2008 15:03:08] <nemo__> hehe
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[10-Apr-2008 18:30:08] <idea4gud> the windows server which i am trying to monitor has doesnt hav domain group or domain
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:19] <idea4gud> do i need to hav this to hav WMI working correctly
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:29] <idea4gud> bcz since mine is local system account
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:45] <idea4gud> I am getting this Error in 3 modules while monitoring Windows machine I did try remodellingthe device
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:57] <idea4gud> also moved the events to the history
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:05] <idea4gud> but nothing is working out
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:25] <idea4gud> Error_Net_write_fault
[10-Apr-2008 19:38:08] <idea4gud> is there any1 around here
[10-Apr-2008 20:02:04] <henkka_> idea4gud: not for the last day or two, at least :/
[10-Apr-2008 20:08:47] <idea4gud> So u mean zenoss community has taken a break
[10-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <idea4gud> enjoying the spring on beaches of miami
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:04] <codestr0m> Ok.. maybe/certainly it's been brought up before, but I'd like to port zenoss over to postgresql
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:52] <codestr0m> I'm not sure how actively you're changing the scheme, but depending on how a conversation goes tomorrow if I do this maybe I can send the patch upstream?
[10-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <`m3> hey codestr0m ,i am not a dev, just a user
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:02] <codestr0m> `m3 : ok?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:06] <`m3> but does it need porting, i would have assumed that zenoss / zope uses some kind of db lyer, adob or whatever
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:31] <codestr0m>  `m3 have you read the install guide?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> 1.1. Major Dependencies
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> ---------------------------------------------------------------
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> - MySQL 5.0.x
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:55] <`m3> i guess i must have missed anything about postgress automatically
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:37] <codestr0m> it may be a trivial port of triggers + scheme, but a port never-the-less
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:43] <codestr0m> I haven't looked into it too deeply
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:00] <codestr0m> will discuss options tomorrow. just wanted to ping the channel and see if anyone cares
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:51] <`m3> kool
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:22] <idea4gud> can i monitor the event log on windows machines with out using WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:35] <idea4gud> since i have an error with WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:29] <npmccallum> can someone talk to me a bit how collector data is used?
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:45] <npmccallum> I want to write a collector for NetApps to collect filesystem stats
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:15] <npmccallum> I'd like these stats to be shown on the "OS / File Systems" page
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:53] <npmccallum> but I don't really understand what a relMap and an objectMap are and how they map to these various values
[10-Apr-2008 21:37:19] <`m3> npmccallum, they are called collector plugins
[10-Apr-2008 21:38:57] <`m3> probably you can find a sample py collector script if you do a find or similar under /opt/zenoss
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:18] <npmccallum> `m3: I realize that
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:27] <npmccallum> `m3: but none of them are documented
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:41] <npmccallum> and so it isn't obvious how they work
[10-Apr-2008 21:40:27] <`m3> well its all pretty new to me too, but most collectors do an snmp get on an oid right ?
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:13] <npmccallum> sure, that part is obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:20] <npmccallum> but what does Zenoss then do with that data
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:25] <npmccallum> that is not so obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:48:45] <b52laptop> hi
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[11-Apr-2008 04:49:02] <mf2ng> hi
[11-Apr-2008 04:50:11] <mf2ng> any1 got active directory to work? i managed to get auth working, but after dashboard zenoss replies with HTTP 302, temporarily moved
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[11-Apr-2008 07:15:22] <nemo_> morning
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[11-Apr-2008 08:59:58] <_Skid> Hi..
[11-Apr-2008 09:00:38] <_Skid> I have a problem with event mappings
[11-Apr-2008 09:01:38] <_Skid> I have played around with it for a week.. and I cannot understand it.
[11-Apr-2008 09:10:52] <_Skid> the event that I recive is default mapped to eventClass /Perf/Snmp .. in that class I have made a EventClass Mappings with the regex on ".*" or what ever.(tryed everything) and the zAction is set to move the event to history or drop.. but I cannot get it to work.
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:34] <nemo_> ohhh transforms !
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:52] <nemo_> if you dont have a component in the event, use a class level transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:20] <nemo_> e.g. goto /Events /App and more-> transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:35] <_Skid> I have diffrent components on that event.
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:18] <nemo_> _Skid, you should see an event count for ones that match your regex
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:22] <_Skid> do I realy need to transform it?.. I just want to drop or move the event to history
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:35] <nemo_> theres probably no need for a transform when the component is present
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:46] <nemo_> use a regex and set to drop the the zproperties
[11-Apr-2008 09:18:06] <nemo_> ( i just made a page at work documenting transforms ! )
[11-Apr-2008 09:21:22] <_Skid> I have made: events->perf->snmp Add mapping -> Regex: "Error.*" example: "Error reading value for "lo" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad)" zProperties: action drop.
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:09] <nemo_> ^Error.*
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:24] <nemo_> i transformed that too
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:40] <nemo_> make sure you component in the transform is the same as the one in the event log
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:53] <_Skid> bbl. lunch.
[11-Apr-2008 13:35:09] <mzolisi> hi\
[11-Apr-2008 13:40:25] <nemo_> lo/
[11-Apr-2008 14:52:46] <likuidkewl> Anyone know where to find the latest PERC6i MIBS from Dell for a PE2950?
[11-Apr-2008 14:55:16] <nemo_> dell?
[11-Apr-2008 15:21:30] <likuidkewl> Sorry to ask again but we are looking for information on using Zenoss with the Dell PE2900 w/PERC/6i. We have most of the components monitoring just fine but these PERC/6i controllers. Any information is greatly appreciated
[11-Apr-2008 15:41:59] <mrayzenoss> likuidkewl: I'd probably have to agree with nemo_ , Dell should have those available.
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:03] <mrayzenoss> if not, try http://mibdepot.com
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:51] <likuidkewl> Thanks, I had a dropped connection and missed the reply.
[11-Apr-2008 15:43:34] <mrayzenoss> good luck
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:50] <_Skid> I have a problem with an event Transform.... Im not any python coder.. but.. this is what I have...
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:57] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \"lo\" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:05] <_Skid> and this is kind of what I want to do..
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:09] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:21] <_Skid> how do I make it work?
[11-Apr-2008 16:31:58] <nemo_> again, is there a component listed ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:09] <nemo_> i am transforming the same oid error event
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # get the event summary but make sure to return None if it shouldn't exist for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> s = getattr(evt, "summary", None)
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # check to see whether or not we have a summary
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s.find("Error reading value for") > -1:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:48] <nemo_> evt._action = "drop"
[11-Apr-2008 16:33:04] <_Skid> diffrent components
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:28] <nemo_> there are two possible places for transforms btw
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> but isnt that the same as: if evt.message.find("Error reading value for ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:39] <nemo_> one is an event mapping
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:46] <nemo_> the other is the class level
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:14] <nemo_> whats after your:
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:36] <nemo_> and it doesnt glow red in zenoss ( theres some form of syntax checking that turns it red )
[11-Apr-2008 16:36:58] <nemo_> i try to make my regex's simple as poss
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:08] <_Skid> I wouldnt call that an regexp.. its just a matter of finding one string within the string.
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:59] <nemo_> ("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ")
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:08] <nemo_> the ('s need escaping for sure
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:19] <_Skid> yea.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:27] <_Skid> but that is what I want to do
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:31] <_Skid> its not working.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:35] <nemo_> gotta go home now, gl with it
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:42] <nemo_> so simplify
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:56] <nemo_> ^Error.*oid.*
[11-Apr-2008 16:40:08] <_Skid> dont work..
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:23] <nemo_> >=1 ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:36] <nemo_> i dunno , gtg , later
[11-Apr-2008 17:26:58] <twm1010> does anyone here have a good understanding of exactly how performance templates get auto-applied to interfaces?
[11-Apr-2008 17:33:36] <magnachef> I believe that any interface just matches the ethernetCsmacd template unless there are others that match the interface name
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:13] <twm1010> ok
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:23] <twm1010> so if i build a template containing that interface type, it uses that instead?
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:25] <twm1010> that makes sense
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:10] <magnachef> so if you create an interface type of eth1 for /device/servers/linux, it will only apply that to eth1 interfaces within that class
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:22] <magnachef> at least that's how I believe it to work
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:36] <twm1010> and if i remodel, a device, it auto-reassigns the template i wonder?
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:41] <twm1010> i will test :-D
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:16] <magnachef> I'm actually wrestling with having it not alert for my bond0 interfaces, as they show up as 10 Mbps for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:34] <magnachef> so I'm going over the 75% threshold
[11-Apr-2008 17:38:53] <magnachef> not sure how to change the interface Type though to match the template
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:04] <magnachef> i think that's what's messing me up
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:07] <twm1010> well ya know, i'd like to differentiate between a serial link and a controller
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:18] <twm1010> its okay that the serial ones grab ethernetCSmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:08] <twm1010> hrmm, i know our multilink virtual interfaces show with a speed that is the sum of all that serial links part of the multilink
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:31] <magnachef> yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to make my bond0 interfaces not be of Type ethernetCsmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:40] <magnachef> if anyone knows, do tell :-)
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:40] <twm1010> remodeling now...
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:46] <twm1010> i see now where to get the "type"
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:53] <twm1010> i was going of the interface name showing up
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:06] <twm1010> This makes so much more sense now :|
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:42] <twm1010> i'll be damned... it works
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:51] <twm1010> now you would think they'd have standard templates for your average controllers
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:54] <twm1010> ds1, ds3, etc.
[11-Apr-2008 17:45:22] <magnachef> so how did you get it to change the interface type?
[11-Apr-2008 17:45:51] <magnachef> I can't get mine to be anything besides ethernetCsmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:14] <twm1010> well i didn't change the interface type
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:28] <twm1010> i clicked on the interface, and saw what "type" it was seeing the interface as
[11-Apr-2008 17:46:36] <twm1010> I assumed a T1 would be T1, alas it is DS1
[11-Apr-2008 17:47:48] <magnachef> yeah, my device is a linux server, so it's probably just seeing my bonded interface as just another ethernet interface
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:25] <magnachef> so I just need to figure out how to make it of type bond0, which is what I created a template for, which will not send alerts at 75% utilization
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:26] <twm1010> yes most likely, and i suppose it is
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:43] <twm1010> do you need this to happen elsewhere?
[11-Apr-2008 17:48:51] <twm1010> i mean, you could do a local template for it
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:03] <magnachef> nah, just on my 70+ servers with bonded intefaces
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:09] <twm1010> surely someone has hit this same wall
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:24] <twm1010> i seem to remember one of our redhat servers showing up like that now
[11-Apr-2008 17:49:32] <magnachef> SNMP shows that it is 10 Mbps...so it'd be nice if I could fix it on the SNMP side
[11-Apr-2008 17:50:43] <magnachef> yeah, I've corrected the situation with propVirtual interfaces on Cisco devices, but it's trickier when it's coming up as a regular ethernet interface
[11-Apr-2008 17:50:55] <magnachef> oh well :-)
[11-Apr-2008 17:52:59] <twm1010> did you have to use a read/write community to get trending data?
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:12] <magnachef> just a read
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:20] <magnachef> I use read-only
[11-Apr-2008 17:53:33] <twm1010> k
[11-Apr-2008 17:56:11] <twm1010> seems like about a week ago i stopped getting trending data from all my network devices :O
[11-Apr-2008 17:56:35] <magnachef> can you manually do a snmpwalk on them from your server?
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:20] <twm1010> yeah
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:34] <twm1010> i upgraded from 2.1.2 to 2.1.3 about that time
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:44] <magnachef> do they start back up after remodeling?
[11-Apr-2008 17:57:53] <magnachef> oh no
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:07] <magnachef> yeah, I ran into the same issue with the upgrade
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:21] <magnachef> I actually had to rebuild Zenoss from scratch
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:22] <twm1010> how did you fix it?
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:25] <twm1010> wha?!
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:27] <twm1010> f that
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:34] <twm1010> hehehe
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:45] <magnachef> yeah, the upgrade is quite an abortion
[11-Apr-2008 17:58:55] <magnachef> there's a lot of talk about it on the forums
[11-Apr-2008 17:59:47] <twm1010> i wonder if my system templates are effected
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:26] <twm1010> if i'm missing "uptime" from alot of servers, that would explain it
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:30] <magnachef> I even did the zenmigrate, and followed the docs that existed for how to upgrade, and it caused some major issues
[11-Apr-2008 18:00:58] <twm1010> i know that Zenoss is still trying to get SNMP data for sure, i wonder where it's going?
[11-Apr-2008 18:01:50] <magnachef> look in your $ZENHOME/log/zenperflog.log
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:02] <magnachef> or some log like it
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:14] <magnachef> make sure there's no errors
[11-Apr-2008 18:02:30] <magnachef> also do a /etc/init.d/zenoss status to make sure all your processes are running
[11-Apr-2008 18:19:53] <twm1010> yeah they're all running
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:01] <twm1010> and yeah zenperf is having issues :|
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:27] <magnachef> yeah, same issue that I (and many other upgraders) have had
[11-Apr-2008 18:20:58] <twm1010> ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: exceptions.AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'has_key'
[11-Apr-2008 18:26:44] <twm1010> just found that thread
[11-Apr-2008 18:34:10] <magnachef> yeah, I didn't find it until after I upgraded as well
[11-Apr-2008 18:37:46] <twm1010> well... im attempting some of the fixes posted there
[11-Apr-2008 18:37:59] <twm1010> i'll move my 5 core routers back into production state and see if i get data
[11-Apr-2008 18:48:31] <magnachef> let me know how that goes
[11-Apr-2008 18:48:54] <magnachef> I thought I tried everything on the forum before resorting to the rebuild
[11-Apr-2008 18:50:37] <twm1010> did you do the edit of the minmax.py ?
[11-Apr-2008 18:51:18] <twm1010> my zenoss box is going nuts
[11-Apr-2008 18:51:35] <twm1010> must be like 20-30 snmpwalks going right now
[11-Apr-2008 18:53:52] <magnachef> yep
[11-Apr-2008 18:54:38] <twm1010> i may be back in business tho
[11-Apr-2008 18:54:59] <twm1010> give it a few more minutes
[11-Apr-2008 18:57:37] <jp10558> Did anyone get the UHCD Device map working with generic Linux systems?
[11-Apr-2008 18:59:21] <`m3> yeh as long as snmp is working, and you got your collector plugins setup
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:05] <twm1010> chef: yeah, i think its working again
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:09] <twm1010> got my uptime, and let me see some data
[11-Apr-2008 19:03:38] <magnachef> cool
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:04] <twm1010> looks like i got to take a serious at look what kind of interfaces i want it to ignore altogether
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:21] <twm1010> and then create templates for the rest that don't use ethernetCSmacd
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:29] <magnachef> yeah, like propVirtual
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:30] <twm1010> but i notice that some of them are of a type with "illegal" characters
[11-Apr-2008 19:14:48] <twm1010> I can't exactly put AT&T DS0 Point (64Kbps) as the name of a template
[11-Apr-2008 19:16:04] <magnachef> it just needs to be the same name as the Type
[11-Apr-2008 19:23:02] <twm1010> well that is whats showing up in the "type" field when i click on the interface
[11-Apr-2008 19:23:06] <twm1010> weird huh
[11-Apr-2008 19:26:42] <magnachef> that's what you'll have to call the template then
[11-Apr-2008 19:55:23] <twm1010> still there chef?
[11-Apr-2008 19:55:42] <magnachef> yep
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:01] <twm1010> help me understand something? if i want to zenoss to alert when say... a serial interface goes down
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:08] <twm1010> how do you set that up?
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:31] <twm1010> im using the loopback IP address as my management address for my routers, so if a path goes down, it should find another way around but i still want it to let me know an interface is down
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:35] <magnachef> alert in the event console? or send an email?
[11-Apr-2008 19:56:48] <twm1010> well, an event is a good start, i can take care of the e-mailing part later
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:13] <magnachef> it should give you a ping error or somethign like that
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:18] <magnachef> that should all be built in
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:31] <magnachef> AFAIK
[11-Apr-2008 19:57:35] <twm1010> right, because the IP on that interface is down
[11-Apr-2008 19:58:02] <twm1010> so the ping monitor automatically pings every interface with an IP on a device?
[11-Apr-2008 19:58:56] <twm1010> confusing
[11-Apr-2008 19:59:09] <magnachef> it should yeah
[11-Apr-2008 20:16:19] <twm1010> hah, awesome i have 3484 bad OID messages right now
[11-Apr-2008 20:17:31] <twm1010> wish i could force a remodel of all devices in a class from the GUI
[11-Apr-2008 20:23:28] <magnachef> I also wish that
[11-Apr-2008 20:23:42] <magnachef> I needed to do a bulk remodel today and it was a hassle
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:36] <idea4gud> Hi Zenoss forums are locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <twm1010> are they
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:46] <idea4gud> any1 has any idea
[11-Apr-2008 20:24:59] <idea4gud> yeah i tried last nite to post my error
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:08] <idea4gud> but it said the forum is locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:27] <magnachef> I'm in the forums
[11-Apr-2008 20:25:40] <twm1010> magna: chet replied to your post
[11-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <twm1010> i like the wildcard suggestion, wonder why he couldn't get it to work
[11-Apr-2008 20:29:19] <idea4gud> so i cant post any msgs
[11-Apr-2008 20:33:05] <idea4gud> is it really locked? i mean the link POST new msgs doesnt work
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:09] <twm1010> do you have a login?
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:18] <idea4gud> yes i logged in
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:21] <idea4gud> i am registered
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:30] <twm1010> which forum are you trying to post in
[11-Apr-2008 20:34:35] <twm1010> zenoss-users, zenoss-dev?
[11-Apr-2008 20:36:27] <idea4gud> i mean login i try postin in zenoss-sers
[11-Apr-2008 20:36:47] <idea4gud> it says new-posts locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:14] <twm1010> i can't remember if accounts have to be "Activated"
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:21] <idea4gud> k
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:49] <idea4gud> now do u c at the bottom the buttons for the New posts
[11-Apr-2008 20:37:51] <twm1010> works for me
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:09] <twm1010> for me the new topic button is in the top left
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:29] <idea4gud> ok logout and relogin
[11-Apr-2008 20:38:31] <twm1010> and the reply to an existing post is in the bottom left, neither greyed out
[11-Apr-2008 20:39:18] <twm1010> the main page shows forums is locked
[11-Apr-2008 20:39:45] <twm1010> but the zenoss-users subforum works
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:27] <twm1010> time for me to go
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:30] <twm1010> back on monday
[11-Apr-2008 20:41:31] <twm1010> gnight
[11-Apr-2008 22:55:22] <KillMeNow> have a good weekend folks
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[13-Apr-2008 20:52:00] <adv> anyone alive?
[13-Apr-2008 20:52:08] <adv> why choose zenoss instead of nagios?
[13-Apr-2008 20:52:19] <adv> i want a comparing or smth
[13-Apr-2008 20:57:09] <adv> comparison
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[14-Apr-2008 06:36:40] <zen_amped> hey everyone
[14-Apr-2008 08:13:03] <henkka_> adv: honestly, I don't know. Couldn't get zenoss to work at all, received warnings from the Zenoss system itself all the time (this was with the VMWare Appliance). Tried out Nagios and after 2 hours of configuration it now monitors my (small) set of servers and sends notifications by email if there's something fishy going on.
[14-Apr-2008 08:26:42] <zen_amped> is anyone actualy here? or is everyone idle...
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:12] <zen_amped> well...
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:15] <DarkMats> Schh! It's the annual idle contest!
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:19] <DarkMats> damn... I lost
[14-Apr-2008 08:27:21] <zen_amped> lol
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:09] <zen_amped> I never really understood why anyone would idle ircs, but now I know, thanks
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:17] <DarkMats> np
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:21] <zen_amped> so what do we get if we win?
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:33] <DarkMats> Dunno, Nobody ever won
[14-Apr-2008 08:28:50] <henkka_> zen_amped: no open tickets, I suppose?
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:23] <DarkMats> Hah! henkka_ is out too! Only 36 people left!
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:30] <zen_amped> ahh, ill tell installing zenoss has been one of the hardest things for me to do.
[14-Apr-2008 08:29:38] <zen_amped> tell you**
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:03] <DarkMats> Hard?
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:28] <DarkMats> rpm -Uvh zenoss*rpm, done
[14-Apr-2008 08:30:54] <zen_amped> I tried intalling it on FreeBSD 7.0 and ran into just about every install issue there was and then when I did get it installed everything was acting weird, so I finally gave in and installed CentOS on one of my servers
[14-Apr-2008 08:31:39] <zen_amped> and still, doing the rpm install, I ran into a few issues that good'ole goole helped me solve
[14-Apr-2008 08:31:50] <DarkMats> Ok, only installed it on rpm based and debian, so i wouldn't know about FreeBSD
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:36] <zen_amped> My friends laugh at me because I have the worst luck with any *nix distro with my hardware. Ubuntu even trows a kernel packet when I try to install on my laptop. But I do have Zenoss up and running and I half to say it is worth all the hassle I went through. You guys know of any common reasons why rrd files are not being created for my CPU?
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:48] <zen_amped> distros*
[14-Apr-2008 08:34:59] <zen_amped> throws*
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:08] <zen_amped> sry I am using a mac keyboard
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:16] <zen_amped> so I can't spell
[14-Apr-2008 08:35:57] <DarkMats> IT can't spell. Allways blame the keyboard...
[14-Apr-2008 08:36:21] <zen_amped> lol, I like your way of thinking
[14-Apr-2008 08:36:28] <DarkMats> thx
[14-Apr-2008 08:37:06] <DarkMats> But I'm no help with the rrd files...
[14-Apr-2008 08:38:04] <zen_amped> thx anyways, ill figure it out...eventually
[14-Apr-2008 14:01:50] <Daern> Sorry to bother anyone on here, I just have a quick question. I have setup PHP Network Weathermap on my zenoss server and I was looking and unable to find a quick reference on how to add a link under the main views section of the menu for a simple HTML file.
[14-Apr-2008 14:02:10] <Daern> could someone point me in the direction of documentation that would be helpful?
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:24] <nemo_> i can point you to the file to edit
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:37] <nemo_> but your changes will be lost if you upgrade your zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:50] <Daern> that will be wonderful
[14-Apr-2008 14:03:56] <nemo_> 2 secx
[14-Apr-2008 14:04:02] <Daern> thx!
[14-Apr-2008 14:06:54] <nemo_> /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenDeviceACL/skins/ZenDeviceACL/leftPane.pt
[14-Apr-2008 14:10:42] <Daern> Thank you!
[14-Apr-2008 14:10:46] <nemo_> yw
[14-Apr-2008 14:24:54] <Daern> sweet, I got the link added. I just set it up to open my network map in a new window for the time being. I assume in order to understand how to get it to load within the pane on the right-hand side I need to read the manual on Zope? Or is there another set of documentation that would help more in customizing my interface for Zenoss? as of right now we're running about 1500 devices on so I'm trying to find ways to distill information and correlate data as muc
[14-Apr-2008 14:24:54] <Daern> d hopefully keep things pretty and relatively easy to maintaine in the process.
[14-Apr-2008 14:25:24] <Daern> correction, on the pane on the left-hand side*
[14-Apr-2008 14:26:41] <nemo_> zeoctl restart
[14-Apr-2008 14:27:00] <nemo_> as zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 14:27:11] <nemo_> running most things as root will bork0n them
[14-Apr-2008 14:28:59] <nemo_> not sure about general customisation, i find grepping through things the easiest way ;p
[14-Apr-2008 14:29:15] <nemo_> not aware of any official docs on the matter
[14-Apr-2008 14:32:43] <Daern> k, I'll just keep digging around then. I'm lucky enough to have VMWare VI, so I just take a snapshot before I make changes, so if I do break stuff I just revert back to the snapshot.
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:03] <idea4gud> hi guyz I am trying to get WMI information since last 10 days
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:10] <idea4gud> but not successfull
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:30] <idea4gud> had been on the forums searching wasnt able to get much information
[14-Apr-2008 15:46:39] <idea4gud> can any1 help
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:01] <nemo_> did you install the wmi zenpack
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:04] <idea4gud> yes
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:24] <nemo_> is the wmi service installed and configured on the server end ( client of zenoss, windows server )
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:35] <nemo_> can you test it locally with wbemtest
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:37] <idea4gud> i am runnin
[14-Apr-2008 15:47:43] <idea4gud> 2.1.3
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:02] <idea4gud> do i have to install zenpack separately
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:27] <idea4gud> bcz the documentation doesnt talk of zenpack
[14-Apr-2008 15:48:57] <idea4gud> I hav wbemtest successfully tested @ local windows machine
[14-Apr-2008 15:49:18] <nemo_> http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenossnews.2008-04-03.8832160898
[14-Apr-2008 15:49:33] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Advanced WMI Performance Monitor ZenPack for Zenoss Core - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 15:51:00] <idea4gud> the Error i am getting is Error_NET_WRITE_FAULT
[14-Apr-2008 15:51:51] <idea4gud> nemo: also I am in total congruence with the official documentation
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:15] <idea4gud> since it didnt say about Zenpack i didnt have it
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:17] <nemo_> ok i was getting that too
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:28] <nemo_> but it was because some of my machines were not in the domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:52:54] <nemo_> I use a domain and 99% of servers were joined, 1 zenoss user to configure for the domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:18] <idea4gud> the server and windows machine are both in the same subnet with the firewall on the subnet
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:30] <nemo_> you need to set the wmi user in the zproperties for /devices/servers/windows
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:35] <nemo_> and password*
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:36] <idea4gud> yeah did
[14-Apr-2008 15:53:59] <idea4gud> also tried with .\user id as mention in the forums no luck
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:18] <nemo_> DOMAIN\user
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:36] <nemo_> well its simple, are you in a domain or not ?
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:36] <idea4gud> zwmiuser is the Admin of the local windows macchine
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:43] <idea4gud> but i am not in domain
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:50] <idea4gud> i am local
[14-Apr-2008 15:54:55] <nemo_> ok so no SOMETHING\user for you
[14-Apr-2008 15:55:01] <nemo_> just user
[14-Apr-2008 15:56:27] <nemo_> ok time to roll home, laters ppl, good luck idea4gud !
[14-Apr-2008 15:57:04] <idea4gud> nemo hold on one query
[14-Apr-2008 15:57:15] <idea4gud> do u still suggest i go for zenpack as u said
[14-Apr-2008 17:35:14] <idea4gud> hi guyz how can we monitor webservice using zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 17:45:25] cgibbons_ is now known as cgibbons
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:06] <go> Hello everybody
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:24] <go> i have some trouble installing zenoss on my debian server
[14-Apr-2008 18:01:45] <magnachef> from source?
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:28] <go> magnachef: yes, or is there an deb package to install it?
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:31] <go> http://pastebin.com/m2e78a19f
[14-Apr-2008 18:02:38] <go> that is the direct output
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:13] <magnachef> don't know
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:18] <magnachef> any reason you're using debian?
[14-Apr-2008 18:03:59] <go> magnachef: it is a server in the company i work in.
[14-Apr-2008 18:04:16] <go> we are searching for that kind of solution and so i wanted to test ist
[14-Apr-2008 18:04:38] <go> an debian was already runing on that machine
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:01] <magnachef> I see
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:28] <go> core problem is that the install-script cannot access a specific file
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:34] <go> like i see
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:40] <go> but in cannot install it as root
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:49] <go> i have to install it as zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:06:57] <magnachef> change the file perms
[14-Apr-2008 18:07:13] <magnachef> there's a forum post on this
[14-Apr-2008 18:07:48] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551
[14-Apr-2008 18:08:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 18:09:45] <go> thx ill have a try
[14-Apr-2008 18:09:53] <magnachef> np
[14-Apr-2008 18:10:52] * magnachef uses Centos 4.5 and the zenoss rpms
[14-Apr-2008 18:13:00] <go> magnachef: when i let zenoss run in a virtualmachine, will it be as functional as a serverinstallation? we only have a small company network
[14-Apr-2008 18:15:48] <magnachef> yeah, it should
[14-Apr-2008 18:16:00] <magnachef> you probably lose some performance
[14-Apr-2008 18:16:16] <magnachef> but if it's not a big network, then you'll be fine
[14-Apr-2008 18:17:40] <idea4gud> magnachef: http://pastebin.ca/984996
[14-Apr-2008 18:17:48] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 984996 (at pastebin.ca)
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:02] <idea4gud> how can i monitor webservice using zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:14] <idea4gud> monitor here refers to two things
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:22] <idea4gud> 1)IF service is up and running
[14-Apr-2008 18:18:49] <idea4gud> 2)Response of service is correct i mean there are no grbage values
[14-Apr-2008 18:27:49] <magnachef> zenpacks
[14-Apr-2008 18:28:02] <magnachef> and IpService, then choose the port
[14-Apr-2008 18:32:35] <magnachef> you'll also want to add the httpd service under OSProcess
[14-Apr-2008 18:33:44] <idea4gud> but will i be able to check whether i am getting the rite contents
[14-Apr-2008 18:33:49] <idea4gud> or not
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:24] <magnachef> you'll have to setup a check to parse the results
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:32] <magnachef> I think there's a way to do this natively within zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:34:46] * magnachef is unsure how to do it at this point
[14-Apr-2008 18:44:59] <Daern> is there a way to access graphs generated from zenoss from 3rd party app? I've already gotten the PHP Weathermap to work nicely, but I'm trying to setup a mouseover function so that when you move the mouse over a link it will pop up with a graph showing the last 24 hours of activity on that link.
[14-Apr-2008 18:45:55] <magnachef> are you using the cacti weathermap by chance?
[14-Apr-2008 18:46:27] <Daern> basically, but the command line version, no cacti
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:00] <magnachef> you can view the link to just the graph from zenoss
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:13] <magnachef> just right click and do "view image"
[14-Apr-2008 18:47:33] <magnachef> hopefully, there's a way to build the URL
[14-Apr-2008 18:49:50] <Daern> *fingers crossed*
[14-Apr-2008 18:50:46] <magnachef> do you know what I'm saying?
[14-Apr-2008 18:50:55] <Daern> I believe so
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:20] <magnachef> cool
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:24] <magnachef> let me know how that goes
[14-Apr-2008 18:53:39] <magnachef> did you think of just using the zenoss google maps?
[14-Apr-2008 18:56:28] <Daern> That's the thing, all the offices are within about a block of each other, we are wanting to see the different load between organizations so that we can gauge the amoune of traffic each department is putting on the network at any one time. I have the data within zenoss, just getting it to where others within IS understand it is the challenging part
[14-Apr-2008 18:56:36] <Daern> \
[14-Apr-2008 19:02:18] <Daern> What I may look at is something rrdcgi for just generating the graphs for me, zenoss appears to use a rendering agent when you view the graph so I can't just link to a URL. I can at least use the RRD data that it pulls down for the graph so that I don't have multiple applications polling for the same data.
[14-Apr-2008 19:02:46] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[14-Apr-2008 19:12:14] <magnachef> or you can just have a cgi that you pass in the device from the map, and it'll display a graph based on that
[14-Apr-2008 19:12:27] <magnachef> all you'd really need to do is create the rrd graph command
[14-Apr-2008 19:45:01] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[14-Apr-2008 20:01:27] <npmccallum> So I've got a ZenPack that contains a modeler. However, that modeler is not recognized by Zenoss. Why?
[14-Apr-2008 20:01:49] <npmccallum> The modeler (collector) works when not in a ZenPack
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:08] <npmccallum> Do any devs actually hang out in here?
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:40] <magnachef> you should try the zenoss-dev group in the forums
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <magnachef> they definitely hang there
[14-Apr-2008 20:19:45] <mrayzenoss> Well, I'm a new Zenoss employee going through training
[14-Apr-2008 20:20:04] <mrayzenoss> as Community Manager, so I'm here to point you back into the forums
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:03] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: so as community manager, tell devs to interact with the community more
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:11] <mrayzenoss> actually I do
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:38] <mrayzenoss> but they tend to watch the forums more because they're less time-sensitive
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:39] <npmccallum> I have a bunch of Zenoss related stuff I'd like to write, but I can't seem to get people to answer technical questions
[14-Apr-2008 20:22:50] <npmccallum> forums suck
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:01] <mrayzenoss> well, I'd be more than happy to help you find the answers you need
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:04] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:08] <npmccallum> thanks
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:36] <npmccallum> I say forums suck because, when I want a direct answer to a simple question, it usually takes a day or more to get an answer on forums/mailing lists
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:53] <mrayzenoss> true
[14-Apr-2008 20:23:56] <npmccallum> I'm a self-starter, so its not like I'm looking for hand holding
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah, whenever you run into rough spots, let me know
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:18] <mrayzenoss> like where our documentation sucks
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:18] <npmccallum> I've got one right now
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:20] <mrayzenoss> and examples
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:31] <npmccallum> I've written a modeler plugin for NetApps
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:33] <mrayzenoss> I don't know all the technical stuff yet
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <mrayzenoss> but I can find someone who should
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:41] <npmccallum> (something I'm sure Zenoss probably would be interested in)
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:47] <mrayzenoss> oh sure
[14-Apr-2008 20:24:56] <malbon> mrayzenoss: adding a tab for a device could really really be documented (hint hint)
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:15] <npmccallum> If I put the modeler in /opt/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins/zenoss/snmp/ it works
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:26] <npmccallum> pulls in all the data-y goodness
[14-Apr-2008 20:25:55] <npmccallum> If I put the modeler in a ZenPack (by dropping it in the modeler/ directory), Zenoss never sees it
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:22] <npmccallum> I've tried to copy from the DellMonitor ZenPack as much as possible
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:37] <npmccallum> but there doesn't seem like I'm missing anything
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:57] <malbon> npmccallum: look at the HPUX one, I know that works a-ok
[14-Apr-2008 20:26:57] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: now, if there was a dev in here, this would be a 30 second answer
[14-Apr-2008 20:27:15] <mrayzenoss> right, I'm asking the other guys in training and they don't know yet either
[14-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <malbon> npmccallum: you put it under $zenpackhome/modeler/plugins? not just modeler, that one tripped me up too
[14-Apr-2008 20:28:32] <npmccallum> malbon: that might be it, lemme look...
[14-Apr-2008 20:29:55] * malbon afk
[14-Apr-2008 20:30:00] <mrayzenoss> so I just pinged a few developers and they said if you post to zenoss-zenpacks they'll respond fairly quickly
[14-Apr-2008 20:30:18] <mrayzenoss> I think it gets closer attention than zenoss-dev and zenoss-user since there's less traffic
[14-Apr-2008 20:31:31] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: I never even knew about that list, thanks
[14-Apr-2008 20:32:32] <npmccallum> malbon: I think that was it, testing now
[14-Apr-2008 20:37:29] <magnachef> mpmccallum: I'd be interested in that NetApp plugin
[14-Apr-2008 20:37:53] <npmccallum> magnachef: As soon as it works right as a ZenPack, you'll have it
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:04] <npmccallum> Currently I've just added FileSystem states
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:12] <npmccallum> s/states/stats/
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:13] <magnachef> cool...because there's a NetApp zenpack already taht I've installed
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:22] <npmccallum> yes, this is an "upgrade" to that one
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:27] <magnachef> which is good, because the current one doesn't give that
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:41] <npmccallum> it also contains the NetApp mib
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:41] <magnachef> nice! I was going to write the same upgrade!
[14-Apr-2008 20:38:55] <npmccallum> I will be adding other "product info" related stuff
[14-Apr-2008 20:39:52] <npmccallum> magnachef: want to be the test guinea-pig ??
[14-Apr-2008 20:40:20] <magnachef> yeah, I was just about to suggest that
[14-Apr-2008 20:44:54] <npmccallum> magnachef: toss me your email and I'll send it to you in a few minutes
[14-Apr-2008 20:45:45] <malbon> npmccallum: so does it work now?
[14-Apr-2008 20:46:03] <npmccallum> malbon: more or less, I'm just repacking it and I'm going to test it once more
[14-Apr-2008 20:57:33] <idea4gud> i dont see the HttpMonitor Zenpack on the deve.zenoss.com
[14-Apr-2008 21:00:36] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: what are you looking for?
[14-Apr-2008 21:01:07] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/httpmonitor
[14-Apr-2008 21:01:21] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - ZenPack - HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:13:28] <idea4gud> mray:it says page not found
[14-Apr-2008 21:14:23] <npmccallum> mrayzenoss: check your inbox
[14-Apr-2008 21:15:31] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: enter the URL into Google and see the cached version. That URL works for me, and I'm at home
[14-Apr-2008 21:17:27] <idea4gud> when u click on EL5 or 4 that takes u dev.zenoss.com/* which say files not found
[14-Apr-2008 21:17:48] <idea4gud> i can go to the link but the files listed on link are not therer
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:08] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: oh, bad URL?
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:29] <idea4gud> i idd find a URL page
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:38] <idea4gud> but httpMonitor wasnt listed on that page
[14-Apr-2008 21:18:48] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: I'll get someone to fix that
[14-Apr-2008 21:19:16] <idea4gud> ok thanx
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:02] <magnachef> npmccallum: did you get my pm?
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:22] <npmccallum> magnachef: no
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:36] <idea4gud> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenpack-contrib/
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /downloads/zenpack-contrib (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:53] <idea4gud> mray: http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenpack-contrib/
[14-Apr-2008 21:20:59] <idea4gud> doesnt hav HttpMonitor
[14-Apr-2008 21:21:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Index of /downloads/zenpack-contrib (at dev.zenoss.com)
[14-Apr-2008 21:21:38] <magnachef> ahh, I sent you my email. Are pm's disabled?
[14-Apr-2008 21:23:15] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: HttpMonitor isn't community, it's core. I've sent the info to development, they should have it fixed probably tomorrow morning
[14-Apr-2008 21:23:38] <idea4gud> k
[14-Apr-2008 21:24:24] <idea4gud> mrayzenoss : for monitoring HttpService Do i have to SNMP access to that machine and Admin priviliges
[14-Apr-2008 21:26:16] <mrayzenoss> I don't believe so
[14-Apr-2008 21:30:16] <magnachef> npmccallum: magnachef at gmail
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[15-Apr-2008 05:39:50] <e^ipi> heyas
[15-Apr-2008 05:40:12] <e^ipi> anyone around?
[15-Apr-2008 06:40:18] <nemo_> morno
[15-Apr-2008 06:50:56] <e^ipi> zenoss is being less than helpful...
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:14] <e^ipi> for one, is there any way to set up a device based on ip:port ?
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:20] <e^ipi> rather than just ip?
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:37] <nemo_> read up on zope
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:37] <e^ipi> i have an ssh tunnel in to my machine from a whole wack of hosts
[15-Apr-2008 06:51:46] <nemo_> thats what your really dealing with
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:07] <nemo_> btw zenoss is on 8080
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:18] <e^ipi> i know that
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:24] <e^ipi> i'm talking about snmp ports
[15-Apr-2008 06:52:53] <e^ipi> i have about 32 hosts running snmp, and the host machine has a pile of ssh tunnels in to it
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:09] <e^ipi> cacti can see all of them, so no problem there
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:35] <DarkMats> when you edit a device you can set the SNMP port
[15-Apr-2008 06:53:47] <DarkMats> can't you set that to the tunnelport than?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:23] <e^ipi> but i can't have 32 devices all with the same IP, can i?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:25] <e^ipi> differing only by port
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:35] <DarkMats> Ah, true
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:47] <e^ipi> no solution then?
[15-Apr-2008 06:54:58] <DarkMats> Not that I can think of
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:05] <e^ipi> bugger
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:40] <DarkMats> unless...
[15-Apr-2008 06:55:53] <DarkMats> the tunnels terminate at the zenoss server?
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:09] <DarkMats> you can set a different IP for each server there
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:56] <DarkMats> ssh -L 127.0.0.2:169:dummyhost:169 sshtunnel
[15-Apr-2008 06:56:56] <DarkMats> ssh -L 127.0.0.3:169:dummyhost2:169 sshtunnel etc.
[15-Apr-2008 07:01:48] <DarkMats> is that any help e^ipi?
[15-Apr-2008 07:01:57] <e^ipi> that might work actually, thanks
[15-Apr-2008 07:02:02] <DarkMats> np
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:02] <e^ipi> hmm... " snmpwalk -v 2c -c mycommunity tcp:127.0.0.2:16100 " works
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:06] <e^ipi> but zenoss still can't find it
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:20] <e^ipi> "no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2"
[15-Apr-2008 07:15:35] <e^ipi> thoughts? opinions?
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:05] <DarkMats> Very strange... No more ideas. Sorry...
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:12] <e^ipi> :-/
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:17] <e^ipi> thx anyhow
[15-Apr-2008 07:16:20] <DarkMats> np
[15-Apr-2008 10:36:16] <henkka__> e^ipi: There are a number of reasons why this might fail. Keep in mind that in case you are using openssh, even _it_ does not distinguish a server by IP:port combination. It's not that unlikely for Zenoss to fail at the same task (especially if all IP's are dummy addresses for 'localhost').
[15-Apr-2008 11:21:49] cgibbons_ is now known as cgibbons
[15-Apr-2008 11:33:37] <zen_amped> anyone here or is everyone idle?
[15-Apr-2008 11:34:28] <zen_amped> anyone?
[15-Apr-2008 11:39:06] <nemo_> duh ! ask your question, its irc
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> 2008-04-13 16:27:45 ERROR zen.ZenHub: 0x6025
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 240, in processQueue
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> self.doProcessQueue()
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 255, in doProcessQueue
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:23] <zen_amped> obj = self.dmd._p_jar[oid]
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:25] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py", line 207, in get
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:27] <zen_amped> p, serial = self._storage.load(oid, self._version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:29] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 746, in load
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:31] <zen_amped> return self.loadEx(oid, version)[:2]
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:33] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 769, in loadEx
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:35] <zen_amped> data, tid, ver = self._server.loadEx(oid, version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:37] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ServerStub.py", line 192, in loadEx
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:39] <zen_amped> return self.rpc.call("loadEx", oid, version)
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:41] <zen_amped> File "/opt/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/zrpc/connection.py", line 536, in call
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:43] <zen_amped> raise inst # error raised by server
[15-Apr-2008 11:40:45] <zen_amped> POSKeyError: 0x6025
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:00] <zen_amped> lol, I keep getting POSKeyErrors on a fresh CentOS RPM install of 2.1.2. I have tried reinstalling and upgrading to 1.2.3 and still the same issue
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:27] <zen_amped> I have been using google and searching through the fourms to no avail
[15-Apr-2008 11:42:41] <malbon> Make a bug report in trac
[15-Apr-2008 11:43:46] <zen_amped> will do
[15-Apr-2008 11:57:18] <nemo_> zeo not running ?
[15-Apr-2008 11:57:28] <nemo_> su - zenoss && zeoctl restart
[15-Apr-2008 12:01:11] <zen_amped> zeo is running, but I checked the log and it is throwing quite a few errors. I am going to see what I can find out. Thank nemo_ for pointing me in the right direction:-)
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:07] <nemo_> np, good luck !
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:22] <zen_amped> thx
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:30] <nemo_> did you restart zenoss as root ?
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:35] <nemo_> that can mess shit up
[15-Apr-2008 12:02:54] <nemo_> rm -f .zec ; rm -f *.pickle?
[15-Apr-2008 12:03:04] <nemo_> and restart
[15-Apr-2008 12:03:43] <zen_amped> I have restarted as root in the past, but recently I have been doing so as the zenoss user
[15-Apr-2008 13:48:58] <SEJeff> In the centos 5 rpm install of zenoss core, what is the default login password?
[15-Apr-2008 13:59:20] <nemo_> i could say RTFM, but its admin zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 13:59:44] <SEJeff> Well seeing as it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ, Install Guide, or Release notes, thanks...
[15-Apr-2008 14:00:02] <SEJeff> So could I say: WTFM? Write the F manual?
[15-Apr-2008 14:00:31] <DarkMats> It should be in the install guide as I look it up there every time =)
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:01] <SEJeff> The FAQ has the user/pass for the vmware image, but doesn't mention the rpm. Just noticed that
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:21] <DarkMats> Sorry. not admin guide. Install guide
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:21] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ isn't in the install guide
[15-Apr-2008 14:01:36] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on EL5 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 14:32:06] <pablo26> hi all
[15-Apr-2008 14:35:17] <pablo26> i'm getting this error: zenPerfsnmp hearbeat failure, but i executed it manually and the process is still running
[15-Apr-2008 14:41:57] <nemo_> cleared heartbeats ?
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:02] <pablo26> no, how do i do that?
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:19] <nemo_> read the docs my friend
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:25] <nemo_> sorry i dont work for zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 14:45:33] <b52laptop> hi
[15-Apr-2008 14:46:42] <pablo26> i should download the latest documentation, i think its not in the one i have
[15-Apr-2008 15:34:37] <nemo_> http://pastebin.com/m5b08dd62
[15-Apr-2008 15:34:49] <nemo_> sup with that, why do i only get an os sometimes ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:48:29] <nemo_> no one ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:49:56] <SEJeff> nemo_, When do you not get an os? And is it reproduceable when you can't?
[15-Apr-2008 15:50:06] <nemo_> yup
[15-Apr-2008 15:50:51] <SEJeff> What is the point of the unused p variable?
[15-Apr-2008 15:51:02] <SEJeff> And what kind of information is in the hosts you can't see the OS for?
[15-Apr-2008 15:51:40] <SEJeff> ZenOSS just grabs the snmp info for the productname. So the likely culprit is the snmpd running on that device
[15-Apr-2008 15:52:25] <nemo_> `theres no point to the unused var , comes from another script
[15-Apr-2008 15:53:19] <SEJeff> Try: snmpwalk -v1 -cYOURCOMMUNITYSTRING ip.of.device system
[15-Apr-2008 15:53:22] <nemo_> SEJeff, can i generate a list of properties / vars that ARE available ?
[15-Apr-2008 15:55:18] <SEJeff> nemo_, Yeah, first you need to look at what snmp output the device gives you. Then you need to figure out how ZenOSS interprets those OIDS
[15-Apr-2008 15:55:59] <nemo_> SEJeff, k thanks, so the code should do it , theres no prob there, must be data not collected by snmp correct?
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:03] <SEJeff> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr gives you the OS info
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:20] <SEJeff> nemo_, Yes or that the device isn't configured to output the sysDescr
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:35] <SEJeff> You can see if the code is the problem by running the snmpwalk command I gave you
[15-Apr-2008 15:56:51] <nemo_> yeh i know about snmpwalk for sure
[15-Apr-2008 15:57:09] <nemo_> i am just dealing with a few 1000 devices, working through expections, beginner py coder
[15-Apr-2008 15:57:39] <nemo_> Thanks for your help
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:19] <SEJeff> nemo_, Thanks for giving me the zenoss login earlier
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:30] <nemo_> ah it was you
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:35] <nemo_> karma
[15-Apr-2008 15:58:38] <nemo_>
P[15-Apr-2008 15:58:39] <SEJeff> yup
[15-Apr-2008 16:02:47] <nemo_> ok pleasant evening, shift is over here !
[15-Apr-2008 16:03:22] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im currently building an Ubuntu 6.10lts server for zenoss - im planning on doing core install -- any gotchas i need to look out for?
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:06] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You know that Ubuntu 8.04 LTS comes out in 9 days, right?
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:43] <W8TAH> yes
[15-Apr-2008 16:05:52] <W8TAH> i do -- i'll do a dist upgrade to it then if i need to
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:03] <W8TAH> however in 9 days i may not have a free day where i can work on this
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:08] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Just seems silly to build a new server and then upgrade it
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:11] <W8TAH> and i do today (one man it shop here)
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:22] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Alright, just letting you know.
[15-Apr-2008 16:06:28] <W8TAH> i appreciate that --
[15-Apr-2008 16:07:16] <W8TAH> in reality if i need to run on 6.10 for a few months its real stable and secure (ive got it elsewhere in the environment) and im not concerned - to be honest its a time thing
[15-Apr-2008 16:15:33] <malbon> yo folks, in zenprocess.py are there any thoughts on not hardcoding the mibs to collect the process table? HPUX has a completely different structure to host-resources mib?
[15-Apr-2008 16:21:59] <SEJeff> Patches are kindly accepted
[15-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <W8TAH> who do the install instructions for ubunut have you use the nightly snapshot instead of the stable build?
[15-Apr-2008 16:42:23] <W8TAH> thats in step 16
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:40] <W8TAH> i got this error -- what do i need to add to my system?
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:44] <W8TAH> http://www.pastebin.ca/986221
[15-Apr-2008 17:08:55] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Tim Holmes - post number 986221 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[15-Apr-2008 17:09:06] <W8TAH> it looks like a problem with building samba somehow
[15-Apr-2008 17:09:27] <W8TAH> neat bot trick
[15-Apr-2008 17:12:59] <e^ipi> "no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2", yet snmpwalk works
[15-Apr-2008 17:13:02] <e^ipi> help?
[15-Apr-2008 17:13:49] <`m3> if you trying to check it externally , 127.x.x.x wont work ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:00] <`m3> or is this the actual zenoss machine ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:21] <e^ipi> the zenoss machine has an ssh tunnel in to it on blah.2
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:39] <e^ipi> on that machine, on the console, snmpwalk dumps all the info it should be
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:43] <e^ipi> but zenoss can't see it
[15-Apr-2008 17:14:48] <`m3> ah well, thats a bit spec , its not zenoss, its your iptables forwarding
[15-Apr-2008 17:15:42] <e^ipi> nonsense. this works: snmpwalk -v 2c -c <my community> tcp:127.0.0.2:16100
[15-Apr-2008 17:17:57] <`m3> i dont work for zenoss, i use it , but your setup isnt quite standard , certainly not like mine
[15-Apr-2008 17:18:07] <`m3> if you want to work the hard way, its your call
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:27] <`m3> maybe zenoss works on the standard ports unless configured otherwise ..
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:45] <e^ipi> well, that's how we have our network set up here
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:50] <e^ipi> and cacti handles it plenty fine
[15-Apr-2008 17:20:56] <`m3> great
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:11] <e^ipi> there's no reason it /shouldn't/ work either
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:17] <e^ipi> it's odd, but not that odd
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:47] <e^ipi> i have the ports forwarding to 127.0.0.x because zenoss can't set up different devices based only onp orts
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:50] <e^ipi> *ports
[15-Apr-2008 17:21:58] <`m3> understood
[15-Apr-2008 17:22:44] <`m3> start grepping for 161 and 162 is my advice
[15-Apr-2008 17:25:10] <`m3> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004984.html
[15-Apr-2008 17:26:11] <`m3> theres a solution, i can help you with a dmd script to modify things
[15-Apr-2008 17:26:39] <`m3> if you get your head around it, why not write a patch ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:34:52] <SEJeff> So I'd like to create a new device class to change the monitoring interval for snmp traffic
[15-Apr-2008 17:35:20] <SEJeff> Is it possible to have ZenOSS only run the cthernetCsmacd_64 on a specific device class?
[15-Apr-2008 17:36:41] <`m3> set a new template for that class ? ( i havent touched templates yet )
[15-Apr-2008 17:36:46] <`m3> but should be fine
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:26] <W8TAH> hi folks - second build error - pleaes help
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:28] <W8TAH> http://www.pastebin.ca/986262
[15-Apr-2008 17:38:37] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Tim Holmes (W8TAH) - post number 986262 (at www.pastebin.ca)
[15-Apr-2008 17:39:24] <`m3> make[2]: swig: Command not found ? thats my first guess
[15-Apr-2008 17:39:56] <W8TAH> ya -im seeing that too - im not a programmer -- im just tryin to use the package -- who or what is swig? any ideas?
[15-Apr-2008 17:40:41] <W8TAH> this is the SVN Shot per the install instructions - -im very tempted to grab the 2.1.3 package from the downloads - untar it and try from that -- im a bit at a loss to why they are using svn snapshots for stable builds
[15-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <SEJeff> `m3, Well I'd like to use an existing template, but change the polling interval
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:19] <`m3> no idea, on a steep learning curve too, i used rpms , lifes too short ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:41] <`m3> SEJeff, should all be a zproperty of the class, then the device
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:45] <SEJeff> W8TAH, swig creates bindings from languages to C / C++
[15-Apr-2008 17:41:58] <SEJeff> W8TAH, sudo apt-get install swig will fix it likely
[15-Apr-2008 17:42:03] <W8TAH> ahh - SWEET - thanks
[15-Apr-2008 17:42:09] <SEJeff> W8TAH, apt-cache show swig to see what it is
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:04] <W8TAH> thanks
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:13] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Did that do it for you?
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:16] <W8TAH> its running the build again be about 20 mins till we know
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:27] <W8TAH> swig installed no problem
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:36] <W8TAH> i take it that is a package that should be in build essential and isnt?
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:50] <SEJeff> W8TAH, No, it is a dependency of building zenoss
[15-Apr-2008 17:44:55] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:05] <W8TAH> so its normal to hit a few of these in the install process?
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:08] <SEJeff> W8TAH, And should be in the prerequisites for installing ZenOSS on Ubuntu / Debian if it isn't
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:18] <W8TAH> ahhhh -- got ya
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:20] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Well are you using a wiki page on installing it?
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:36] <SEJeff> W8TAH, If so, please update it to add swig as one of the packages to install first
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:42] <W8TAH> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-ubuntu-6.10/
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:45] <W8TAH> thats the page im using
[15-Apr-2008 17:45:56] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Install on Ubuntu 6.10 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:36] <SEJeff> Thats not in the wiki
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:38] <W8TAH> im not a wiki user so i cant update
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:41] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:51] <W8TAH> i just followed the links from the download page
[15-Apr-2008 17:46:59] <SEJeff> W8TAH, If you have a few minutes, can you file a bug against that page so someone that actually works at ZenOSS can fix it?
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:18] <W8TAH> is that allowed to someone not buying support?
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:19] <`m3> good call
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:24] <`m3> yes
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:27] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:30] <`m3> its the whole idea
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:42] <`m3> you buy support or be part of the community
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:43] <W8TAH> there was a previous bug too - -it needs automake as well as swig
[15-Apr-2008 17:47:48] <`m3> or both ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:04] <W8TAH> well-- i have to be budget zero on this project so i guess im community -- LOL
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:17] <`m3> fair play, my company bought support
[15-Apr-2008 17:48:23] <`m3> its been useful
[15-Apr-2008 17:49:18] <SEJeff> `m3, We are going to buy the commercial version after this evaluation is over
[15-Apr-2008 17:49:21] <`m3> tho only called them once
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:08] <`m3> SEJeff, worth it in a pro enviroment, sounds like yours is prob in the category
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:49] <`m3> W8TAH, community is where its at imho
[15-Apr-2008 17:50:50] <W8TAH> part of my problem also is the commercial support a has a 50 device lower limit at 66 bux per -- ive got 8 switches and about 10 servers or so
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:00] <W8TAH> ya - im a big fan of community stuff
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:06] <SEJeff> `m3, Well we want 1 second polling of switch interface stats
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:30] <`m3> SEJeff, its def possible, wether its a zproperty or in a perf template, not sure
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:34] <SEJeff> `m3, Would "zCommandCycleTime" in the device class zproperties be the right setting to change?
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:42] <`m3> i favour perf template too now i think about it
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:48] <`m3> yes i think so
[15-Apr-2008 17:51:59] <`m3> poke and hope dude
[15-Apr-2008 17:52:16] <`m3> your not a zenadmin till you trashed it and got out ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:53:54] <SEJeff> `m3, Is there anything special that needs to be done to assign an existing template to a device class?
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:01] <SEJeff> Before remodelling the device
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:16] <`m3> dont think so, it might break old rrd's
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:20] <`m3> not sure
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:34] <`m3> rrd's == graphs
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:39] <SEJeff> `m3, Well do all templates apply to all devices bc that seems silly
[15-Apr-2008 17:54:46] <SEJeff> `m3, Right, this is for testing so no worries there
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:05] <`m3> SEJeff, i am not logged into work atm , i am at home
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:21] <`m3> our vpn, passwd , rsa key etc is a suitable deterent
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:32] <SEJeff> `m3, Alright now worries. Key fobs are a pain to deal with
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:33] <`m3> cant look around my system
[15-Apr-2008 17:55:57] <`m3> its more i dont lke surfing porn and logging into a pretty tight enviroment ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:01] <`m3> on the same pc
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:26] <SEJeff> `m3, So route your dns through your own box and then only route certain traffic through vpn. It can be done but no worries
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:46] <`m3> I work 12 hrs a day , i dont miss it when i am not there ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:56:59] <W8TAH> lol - ya
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:00] <W8TAH> no doubt
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:02] <`m3> i work in finace, we got through the front door or not at all ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:08] <`m3> go*
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:11] <SEJeff> `m3, me too
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:17] <`m3> i guessed SEJeff
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:20] <SEJeff> `m3, I work for a trading company
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:24] <SEJeff> `m3, how?
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:26] <`m3> no other places are so anal
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:27] <`m3>
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:36] <`m3> network policies, weird setups
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:45] <W8TAH> guess im the lucky one here-- im in a private elementary / middle school - - one man it shop
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:48] <W8TAH> not much politics
[15-Apr-2008 17:57:53] <`m3> SEJeff, i wont ask which one , we might not be supposed to help each other ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:18] <SEJeff> Do you do hedge fund trading? If so you are the devil
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:20] <`m3> W8TAH, well spotted i hate the politics, love the challenges tho
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:35] <`m3> SEJeff, i dont know much about trading, just do unix
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:47] <SEJeff> Financial is fantastic if only because of the challenges it gives us systems guys
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:49] <`m3> but probably its the one you think
[15-Apr-2008 17:58:52] <W8TAH> ya - i hear u
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:02] <`m3> nods ;p
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:17] <W8TAH> the day to day crap drives me nuts -- i enjoy stuff like this
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:31] <W8TAH> i think we are past that break point
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:33] <`m3> W8TAH, maybe your rich already ?
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:36] <`m3>
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:47] <`m3> i work for money, most ppl have to just like me
[15-Apr-2008 17:59:52] <W8TAH> NO
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:05] <W8TAH> tuition supported church affiliated school
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:10] <W8TAH> definatly NOT rich
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:35] <`m3> rich isnt always financial, you got internet access and a place to stay, thats great
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:41] <`m3> i pay a few 1000 a month for that ;p
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:48] <W8TAH> i hear ya -
[15-Apr-2008 18:00:52] <W8TAH> i have both
[15-Apr-2008 18:01:50] <SEJeff> `m3, is in NY /me thinks
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:13] <`m3> no but my employer is
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:22] <`m3> i am euro based, so is my employer
[15-Apr-2008 18:02:29] <SEJeff> gotcha
[15-Apr-2008 18:06:29] <W8TAH> back in 20 mins or so - - its building again -- wrong db password -- DOH
[15-Apr-2008 18:27:55] <cyberfr0g> where do you change the default zSnmpCommunity string?
[15-Apr-2008 18:28:33] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, You should be able to do it under /Devices/zProperties if you want to change everything
[15-Apr-2008 18:29:26] <cyberfr0g> yay!
[15-Apr-2008 18:29:32] <cyberfr0g> lol, i knew i was in here somewhere
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:16] <cyberfr0g> now, if i want to do a discovery of say windows servers how would that be different then just running zendisc run --net whatever
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:22] <`m3> cyberfr0g, not sure how many machines you got, but you can set all these thing per class too
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:48] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, Because running zendisc won't save the community string
[15-Apr-2008 18:30:59] <SEJeff> cyberfr0g, But either way should work
[15-Apr-2008 18:31:47] <idea4gud> does HttpMonitor zenpack is already present in zenoss 2.1.3
[15-Apr-2008 18:32:12] <idea4gud> bcz i did zenpack run --install HttpMonitor.zip as root
[15-Apr-2008 18:32:37] <idea4gud> it said Object already existing
[15-Apr-2008 18:35:32] <`m3> cyberfr0g, you can set an array of communties
[15-Apr-2008 18:38:45] <cyberfr0g> if i've already done a discovery using public community string and now i want to do another discovery with the real community string do i have to clear anything out or will it just update the original entry?
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:13] <W8TAH> install completed -- sorry i was longer than 20 mins
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:35] <SEJeff> There is a zProperty for a list of snmp communities
[15-Apr-2008 18:41:47] <SEJeff> It will cycle through all of them
[15-Apr-2008 18:43:41] <b52laptop> hi
[15-Apr-2008 18:44:45] <cyberfr0g> what about windows boxes or linux boxes? i've had autodiscovery on for awhile but so far it's only found one machine. do i have to enable something to look for something other then snmp enabled devices?
[15-Apr-2008 18:45:45] <W8TAH> SEJeff, ive completed my install and posted the bugs you requested
[15-Apr-2008 18:45:56] <SEJeff> Cool thanks!
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:18] <W8TAH> np
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:19] <`m3> good call guys , worthy ;p
[15-Apr-2008 18:46:35] <W8TAH> i hope so - i get tired of gettin told my bugs r stupid
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:06] <`m3> cyberfr0g, call them with command line wget http://yourzenoss:8080/dmd etc
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:22] <`m3> google on it for the exact syntax
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:44] <__adytum-bot__> `m3: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[15-Apr-2008 18:47:44] <`m3> add somethign like discoveryProto=none on the end for ping only
[15-Apr-2008 18:58:57] <W8TAH> im on the last step - - updating the daemon starts -- on ubunutu -- the command from the help is update-rc.d zenoss 95 -- and i keep getting -- update-rc.d error: unexpected runlevel [0-9S] did you forget "."?
[15-Apr-2008 18:59:03] <W8TAH> not sure what to do here
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:26] <SEJeff> update-rc.d zenoss 23
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:28] <SEJeff> Does that work?
[15-Apr-2008 19:00:46] <W8TAH> no
[15-Apr-2008 19:06:22] <`m3> rc.3 ?
[15-Apr-2008 19:06:37] <W8TAH> update-rc.3 zenoss 23?
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:04] <`m3> i dont use debian, guessing prob shows ;p
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:20] <W8TAH> im not familiar with this part of it yet - on gentoo i could do it -- but not here --
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:35] <W8TAH> i'll figure it out - good news is -- zenoss is up and running
[15-Apr-2008 19:07:54] <W8TAH> and i can start configuring devices as soon as i put the server in the rack (and send the munchkins home)
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:21] <W8TAH> back in a bit
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:26] <W8TAH> tanks for the help
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:27] <magnachef> w8tah: are you using debian? did you see http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1551
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:33] <W8TAH> ubuntu
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:39] <W8TAH> based on debian
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:40] <magnachef> ahhh, ok, nm
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:42] <W8TAH> ok
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:44] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Installing on Debian etch using mostly native packages (at community.zenoss.com)
[15-Apr-2008 19:08:53] <W8TAH> thanks again folks
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[15-Apr-2008 20:28:28] <W8TAH> hi folks - im back - busily adding devices
[15-Apr-2008 22:11:54] <garnica> hi people, I'm running Zenoss 2.1.3, and looking at the event console, where I can see 65 events: "localhost.localdomain zenperfsnmp heartbeat failure" any idea of what's going on ??
[15-Apr-2008 22:20:42] <garnica> "localhost.localdomain zenperfsnmp heartbeat failure" on my Zenoss server..... what's this meaning ??
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[16-Apr-2008 01:38:04] <e^ipi> any way to force zenoss to use TCP instead of UDP?
[16-Apr-2008 01:55:33] <npmccallum> anyone know if it is possible to set the Manufacturer in a collector plugin
[16-Apr-2008 01:55:49] <npmccallum> the setProductKey method seems to not allow this...
[16-Apr-2008 01:56:24] <npmccallum> malbon: ^
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:24] <Mark`> is there anyway to have zenhub listen on a specific ip address
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:31] <Mark`> i.e. for ports 8081 and 8789
[16-Apr-2008 02:47:48] <Mark`> i looked through the python even, if there something i can put in zenhub.conf?
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[16-Apr-2008 05:42:25] <Mark`> [19:47] <Mark`> is there anyway to have zenhub listen on a specific ip address
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:26] <Mark`> [19:47] <Mark`> i.e. for ports 8081 and 8789
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:39] <Mark`> i want to have it totally on a private interface
[16-Apr-2008 05:42:51] <Mark`> would be nice not to have to iptables it
[16-Apr-2008 09:33:44] <b52laptop> morning
[16-Apr-2008 09:36:27] <nemo__> yes it is ;/
[16-Apr-2008 09:36:46] <b52laptop> :d
[16-Apr-2008 12:02:19] <W8TAH> Good morning everyone -- for some reason when i click on my device list -- it goes to the loading screen and stays there -- never loads the device list - any ideas?
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:14] <nemo__> zenoss status
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:27] <nemo__> anyone here any good with python regex's
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:33] <nemo__> baking my noodle here ;/
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:46] <nemo__> r".*[0-9:]{8}\s(?P<component>\s).*\s(?P<summary>.*)"
[16-Apr-2008 12:07:55] <nemo__> from the syslog part of zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:13:18] <nemo__> W8TAH, try zenoss status, see if something isnt running
[16-Apr-2008 12:13:43] <W8TAH> when i type zenoss status on my sever it returns command not found
[16-Apr-2008 12:14:11] <W8TAH> are you speaking of the init command?
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:40] <nemo__> as the zenoss user
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:42] <nemo__> ?
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:47] <W8TAH> hang on
[16-Apr-2008 12:15:48] <nemo__> if so , somethings wrong
[16-Apr-2008 12:16:05] <W8TAH> i was logged in as my user - lemme check
[16-Apr-2008 12:17:13] <W8TAH> i really shouldnt type commands till i wake up --
[16-Apr-2008 12:17:20] <nemo__>
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:08] <W8TAH> im gonna reboot that bugger adn solve the problem
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:10] <W8TAH> LOL
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:12] <W8TAH> back in a few
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:57] <nemo__> slow down tiget
[16-Apr-2008 12:18:59] <nemo__> tiger
[16-Apr-2008 12:19:10] <nemo__> just restart the right services with the right user
[16-Apr-2008 12:19:20] <nemo__> reboots are almost never neccesary, and kittens die !
[16-Apr-2008 12:20:04] <nemo__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:God-kills-kitten.jpg
[16-Apr-2008 12:30:50] <W8TAH> the problem was due to my clumsyness the system was minimally responsive
[16-Apr-2008 12:31:26] <W8TAH> zeoctl not running
[16-Apr-2008 12:31:33] <W8TAH> zopectl not running
[16-Apr-2008 12:35:00] <W8TAH> i tried starting those 2 and everything else shut down
[16-Apr-2008 12:35:02] <W8TAH>
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:03] <SEJeff> W8TAH, su - zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:09] <SEJeff> zenoss restart
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:16] <W8TAH> ok - done
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:17] <SEJeff> Then everything should be running properly
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:31] <W8TAH> ok - looks like it is
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:35] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:36] <mzolisi> Hi
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:43] <mzolisi> Hi SEJeff
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:48] <SEJeff> Check it in the webui via "Settings ---> Daemons"
[16-Apr-2008 12:42:58] <SEJeff> hi
[16-Apr-2008 12:43:15] <W8TAH> cool
[16-Apr-2008 12:43:44] <mzolisi> Can you please help me? Im new to Zenoss and want to monitor the availability of Interfaces on a router using SNMP but am not sure how
[16-Apr-2008 12:44:20] <SEJeff> mzolisi, Click Add Device and type in the hostame or ip of the router. You might also have to put in the community string for that device
[16-Apr-2008 12:44:30] <SEJeff> Zenoss will scan it and add everything in for you
[16-Apr-2008 12:46:25] <mzolisi> Thanks
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:00] <mzolisi> I just checked now , They're all under the OS tab on the device
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:08] <mzolisi> Now to test....
[16-Apr-2008 12:47:42] <SEJeff> mzolisi, It works well. I've got it doing snmp polling for interface stats every second. A pain to do, but works well so far
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:32] <W8TAH> ok - all my services are running now, but when i click the device list, it goes to the screen with the loading note in the middle and stays there - -what do i try next?
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:54] <nemo__> SEJeff, any ideas on that syslog matching regex ?
[16-Apr-2008 12:49:58] <SEJeff> Look at how your server is performing
[16-Apr-2008 12:50:01] <nemo__> python regex is killing me
[16-Apr-2008 12:50:28] <SEJeff> nemo__, ZenOSS does all of the regexp in python which is slow compared to something like perl
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:00] <SEJeff> nemo__, My suggestion would actually be to use something like rsyslog or syslog-ng and use them for filtering the syslog traffic. Send stuff from there to ZenOSS
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:16] <nemo__> the syslog bit isnt an issue
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:26] <W8TAH> SEJeff, htop reports im running between .5 and 1% utilization on both processors and about 50% memory useage - no swap useage
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:43] <nemo__> its the parsing of it, using the regex's listed in /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:44] <SEJeff> W8TAH, How much ram is in that server?
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:50] <W8TAH> i gig
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:53] <W8TAH> 1 gig
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:55] <SEJeff> nemo__, Well what about it?
[16-Apr-2008 12:51:56] <nemo__> lines starting r"expr"
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:08] <nemo__> where expr is a regex
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:14] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Thats pretty low for a ZenOSS server. They suggested 2GB for me
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:29] <nemo__> its the (?P grouping thats causing me problems
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:31] <SEJeff> nemo__, Let me crack open that code
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:32] <W8TAH> ok - i can do that -- lemme go snap some more into it
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:37] <SEJeff> The greedy matching
[16-Apr-2008 12:52:39] <W8TAH> back in a flash
[16-Apr-2008 12:53:06] <SEJeff> nemo__, ok, which one?
[16-Apr-2008 12:53:20] <SEJeff> nemo__, What version of zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:00] <nemo__> r".*[0-9:]{8}\s(?P<component>\s).*\s(?P<summary>.*)"
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:00] <nemo__> Apr 3 23:09:14 HOSTNAME 0949HOSTNAME PRO 0 Appl_
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:05] <nemo__> 2.1.3
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:18] <SEJeff> nemo__, You added that yourself?
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:22] <nemo__> yeh
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:35] <nemo__> 2nd line is an example of what i am trying to match
[16-Apr-2008 12:54:50] <nemo__> events with no components are useless in zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 12:55:41] <SEJeff> Sorry nemo, haven't got into using ZenOSS that much just yet
[16-Apr-2008 12:57:28] <nemo__> nps thanks for having a look
[16-Apr-2008 13:03:42] <W8TAH> SEJeff, htop now reports between .1 and .8 useage on the procs and 42/2010mb used -no swap useage
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:21] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Sounds good. Do you have it monitoring your devices / servers?
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:32] <W8TAH> not all of them but yes
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:36] <W8TAH> im still configuring
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:49] <W8TAH> the device list still does no appear when requested
[16-Apr-2008 13:04:52] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Have it scan your network and find them all for you
[16-Apr-2008 13:05:20] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You might also install dstat while you're at it. It is really nice to see whats going on
[16-Apr-2008 13:05:20] <W8TAH> uhh - ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:02] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You can apt-get install it and here is the page: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dstat/
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:10] <W8TAH> dstat is now installed
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:12] <adytum-bot> Title: DAG: Dstat: Versatile resource statistics tool (at dag.wieers.com)
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:15] <Daern> I would like a bit more detail on my graphs, is there a simple way within zenoss to globally set the polling and graphing period to once/minute instead of just taking the 5 min average? (My network is extremely under-utilized so the traffic overhead is no biggie)
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:27] <SEJeff> Daern, Yes I've done it
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:33] <nemo__> zproperty on the class
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:41] <SEJeff> nemo__, No it isn't that simple
[16-Apr-2008 13:06:57] <nemo__> ah you looked into it detail SEJeff ?
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:27] <SEJeff> nemo__, Well the class notes from the ZenOSS class show you how to do it
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:40] <SEJeff> nemo__, I was doing it wrong earlier and properly followed the instructions to get it working
[16-Apr-2008 13:07:47] <nemo__> kool
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:20] <Daern> I appreciate any info on it. I was assuming that I would have to modify the global templates for the graphs so that the OID's reflected a smaller window than a 5 min average
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:34] <SEJeff> Daern, How strong are you in 'nix?
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:39] <Daern> but I wasn't quite sure what all I needed to modify to make sure
[16-Apr-2008 13:08:53] <Daern> I'm probably intermediate level
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:04] <Daern> not a developer but far from a n00b.
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:08] <SEJeff> Daern, ok so enough to copy around files and edit them, right?
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:33] <SEJeff> Daern, Ok bear with me to type the instructions from this manual. It worked for me, ok?
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:34] <Daern> yes.
[16-Apr-2008 13:09:49] <SEJeff> su - zenoss and then cd $ZENHOME/bin
[16-Apr-2008 13:10:10] <SEJeff> cp zenperfsnmp highperfsnmp
[16-Apr-2008 13:11:05] <SEJeff> cd into $ZENHOME/Products/ZenRRD and copy zenperfsnmp.py to highperfsnmp.py
[16-Apr-2008 13:11:57] <SEJeff> sed -i 's/zenperfsnmp/highperfsnmp/g' highperfsnmp.py
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:10] <SEJeff> sed -i 's/zenperfsnmp/highperfsnmp/g' $ZENHOME/bin/highperfsnmp
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:29] <SEJeff> cd $ZENHOME/etc and copy zenpersnmp.conf to highperfsnmp.conf
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:32] <W8TAH> that auto device discovery is just plain COOL
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:43] <nemo__> W8TAH, i dont like it !
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:48] <nemo__> finds too much
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:50] <W8TAH> oh
[16-Apr-2008 13:12:56] <SEJeff> Modify highperfsnmp.conf and change localhost to localhost2
[16-Apr-2008 13:13:16] <SEJeff> Daern, Thats the hard part, let me know when you've got that done or if you have any questions
[16-Apr-2008 13:18:00] <Daern> SEJeff, alright, I've just change the monitor to localhost2 in the highperfsnmp.conf file
[16-Apr-2008 13:22:13] <SEJeff> Daern, From the web ui, click Monitors towards the bottom left
[16-Apr-2008 13:22:48] <SEJeff> Daern, Add a new monitor named localhost2. Click the edit tab and change the cycle time to 60 seconds
[16-Apr-2008 13:23:15] <SEJeff> Almost done
[16-Apr-2008 13:24:13] <Daern> ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:24:40] <SEJeff> So now there are 2 ways you can add devices to a different polling interval...
[16-Apr-2008 13:25:09] <SEJeff> Create a new device class and set the perf monitor on that device class to localhost2, or do it on a per device basis. Which would you prefer?
[16-Apr-2008 13:25:57] <Daern> hmm... which would be faster for existing devices within Zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 13:26:33] <SEJeff> Daern, Well are all of those devices in the same device class?
[16-Apr-2008 13:26:45] <SEJeff> As in /Devices/Network/Cisco or something like that
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:33] <Daern> I'll probably need to do it in a per-device basis because my devices are scattered across most of the classes
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:50] <SEJeff> Daern, just a sec
[16-Apr-2008 13:27:55] <Daern> the only thing I don't have populated is the KVM default class
[16-Apr-2008 13:30:44] <SEJeff> Daern, The coolest thing about ZenOSS is zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:31:17] <SEJeff> Daern, I'm really new to it, but would you like a quick example? Courtesy of a script from nemo?
[16-Apr-2008 13:32:39] <Daern> sure! any info I can get will only help me in the future.
[16-Apr-2008 13:32:50] <SEJeff> su - zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:05] <SEJeff> zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:13] <SEJeff> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:20] <SEJeff> device_name=d.getDeviceName()
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:31] <SEJeff> device_os=d.os.getProductName()
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:37] <SEJeff> print "Hostname: %s" % device_name
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:42] <SEJeff> print "OS: %s" % device_os
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:42] <SEJeff> print "----"
[16-Apr-2008 13:33:56] <SEJeff> That formatting was messed up in the copy / paste
[16-Apr-2008 13:34:44] <Daern> it's ok, it went through fine when I copied it over into notepad
[16-Apr-2008 13:35:03] <SEJeff> Daern, Did that work?
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:11] <W8TAH> back in a bit - while its discovering itself im gonna go take care of a few things
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:25] <SEJeff> You should be able to change the perf monitor to localhost2 for everything you want using zendmd
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:39] <SEJeff> You could also do it manually if it isn't a lot of servers
[16-Apr-2008 13:37:46] <SEJeff> Lets do 1 manually so you know how to do it
[16-Apr-2008 13:38:04] <Daern> ok
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:02] <SEJeff> Daern, Click one one of your devices from the Device List, then Edit --> Performance Monitor --> localhost2
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:21] <SEJeff> The very last thing to do is to actually start your new highperfsnmp daemon
[16-Apr-2008 13:39:32] <SEJeff> as user zenoss, cd to $ZENHOME/bin
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:05] <SEJeff> and do ./highperfsnmp start. You can do something like ./highperfsnmp run -v10 to run it once in the foreground using debug mode
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:45] <SEJeff> You can verify it is working every minute with: "tcpdump -n src port 161"
[16-Apr-2008 13:40:55] <SEJeff> Thats pretty much all there is to it
[16-Apr-2008 13:44:58] <Daern> sweet
[16-Apr-2008 13:45:26] <SEJeff> Make sure the daemon you copied is running though. If you don't, it won't collect anything
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:08] <Daern> and with the graphed data, the OID associated is for 5 min averages on the default template, right? Should I change that for a 1 min average (or some other standard measurement on the MIBs) to get data w/ a smaller window (and a little more telling of spikes in traffic)
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:37] <SEJeff> Daern, Yes. You will have to delete and let zenoss recreate the rrd files
[16-Apr-2008 13:47:53] <SEJeff> They are under $ZENHOME/perf/$hostname
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:05] <Daern> I did a "ps aux | grep highperf" and it shows the highperfsnmp.py in use
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:28] <SEJeff> Daern, Correct. Because you did $ZENHOME/bin/highperfsnmp start
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:37] <Daern> sweet
[16-Apr-2008 13:48:54] <SEJeff> If you really want to make sure it is working, you could do: zenperfsnmp stop
[16-Apr-2008 13:49:06] <SEJeff> And then run tcpdump to verify your collector is working
[16-Apr-2008 13:49:31] <SEJeff> Make sense?
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:15] <W8TAH> ok im back
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:36] <W8TAH> the auto discovery finished - -ive added memory etc and all my daemons are running -but my device list still wont show up --
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:41] <W8TAH> any other ideas?
[16-Apr-2008 13:53:46] <Daern> yes, very much so. Thank you for your assistance SEJeff!
[16-Apr-2008 13:54:12] <Daern> I was having problems getting TCPDUMP to work and thenrealized I was in as the zenoss user
[16-Apr-2008 13:54:15] <SEJeff> Daern, No problem. It took me the whole day yesterday figuring this out myself. And that was with the ZenOSS course material!
[16-Apr-2008 13:55:00] <SEJeff> Daern, It could certainly be a more intuitive process
[16-Apr-2008 13:57:43] <Daern> lol I hear you. I've been working with this system for a few weeks now and I've been getting things a bit more "intuitive" for me. I've been able to integrate the PHP Weathermap in with it, and it's been a bit of a challenge because it does not like spaces in the filenames
[16-Apr-2008 13:58:17] <SEJeff> Daern, Oh... how? We would love to see that here
[16-Apr-2008 13:58:35] <SEJeff> Daern, We were also looking into ways to integrate smokeping with zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 13:59:12] <Daern> ... a long, arduous process. I'm not a developer so I butcher other people's scripts to make it do what I need. (or just write stuff slowly by hand)
[16-Apr-2008 13:59:42] <SEJeff> ha. Care to point in the right direction? And what you did to get it working?
[16-Apr-2008 14:00:40] <mzolisi> Hi again SEJeff
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:14] <SEJeff> mzolisi, You can just ask a question if you have one. Not that I am an expert or anything
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:39] <mzolisi> How do you manage interfaces for UP/DOWN status. Is there a pre-defined method or do you build it yourself
[16-Apr-2008 14:01:51] <SEJeff> Don't know
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:20] <mzolisi> M'kay, back to ze draving bord
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:51] <Daern> I setup php weather map & apache, had to install the php-gd packages, created a devices directory withing the weathermap's folder and created a directory for each device within that folder (which for me was only about 10), then I went into each device folder and created symbolic links to devices interfaces in the zenoss directory, used a script to remove all spaces from the symbolic links, then completed the config for weathermap. Then I created a script to g
[16-Apr-2008 14:03:51] <Daern> s every 5 minutes so that I could use the overlib functions. So if you move the mouse over each link it gives you the last 24 hours of graph data
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:22] <Daern> a lot of work that probably could have been automated... I just don't know enough about scripting/programming to automate that much.
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:34] <Daern> that's the curse of starting in windows..
[16-Apr-2008 14:04:59] <SEJeff> Daern, Nah. My first pc was a PC Jr running Dos 5 and I'm a Sr Linux Admin
[16-Apr-2008 14:05:38] <SEJeff> Daern, So you are using ZenOSS rrds with weathermap via symlinks?
[16-Apr-2008 14:06:02] cgibbons__ is now known as cgibbons
[16-Apr-2008 14:06:52] <Daern> This zenoss box (other than our VMWare ESX systesm) is the only linux box in our environment. We needed something and didn't have the cash in the budget for high-dollar monitoring suites, so enter zenoss.
[16-Apr-2008 14:07:00] <Daern> yup, and it seems to work really well.
[16-Apr-2008 14:07:21] <W8TAH> im hitting a snag on how to move machines out of the discovreed class into the appropriate places like server or workstation
[16-Apr-2008 14:09:14] <Daern> I'm still learning most of the systems/software associated with zenOSS & PHP Weathermap, so there are some things I need to work on but it's really nice. And it impressed the heck out of my superiors. They found out we were using a whopping 1% of our network backbone, but about 40% of our T3 after all was said and done.
[16-Apr-2008 14:09:35] <Daern> It will really help when we start rolling out VoIP and wireless
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:23] <cgibbons> what kind of snag, w8tah?
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:37] <W8TAH> i cant figure out how to move them to a different class
[16-Apr-2008 14:10:50] <W8TAH> im probably being dumb -- but im not seeing it in the ui or the maual
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:22] <W8TAH> arrggg
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:24] <W8TAH> i found it
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:28] <W8TAH> nm - sorry folks
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:39] <SEJeff> W8TAH, The ZenOSS ui is pretty, but not always intuitive
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:51] <W8TAH> ya - i missed the drop down menu totally
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:51] <cgibbons> I bet that drop-down menu button was the culprit there; it doesn't look like a button to me
[16-Apr-2008 14:11:57] <W8TAH> yup
[16-Apr-2008 14:13:09] <Daern> that was a problem for me when I first looked at it. It honestly took me a couple days of working with it before I realized how good of a product it really is.
[16-Apr-2008 14:15:49] <cgibbons> some of us newbies @ Zenoss here had the same issue so I expect we'll try and fix that some-point soon so that it is more intuitive
[16-Apr-2008 14:21:14] <Daern> I'm fine now.
ZenOSS has been a blessing for us, we found out the guy before me had our entire network routing through a little 2620, so the thing would hit 100% utilization and dropped massive amounts of packets during production hours. THey though it was the ISP's fault when it was actually the previous Network Analyst who set everything up with a massive bottleneck[16-Apr-2008 14:33:22] <SEJeff> cgibbons, Do you work @ zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 14:40:17] <npmccallum> SEJeff: yo!
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:08] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Hey hey
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:31] <SEJeff> Daern, Thats crazy. But a good thing to fix
[16-Apr-2008 14:41:37] <cgibbons> yeah, jeff. my 2nd week
[16-Apr-2008 14:42:25] <SEJeff> cgibbons, Cool. Push eric to change the contributor agreement to be a joint copyright assignment like sun. The current one isn't that great
[16-Apr-2008 14:43:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, ZenOSS and a properly tweaked server hum. Even when doing stupid amounts of snmp requests
[16-Apr-2008 14:44:41] <W8TAH> ok - got a question - -im putting togehter a new device class /workstation for the sub classes -- is it better to go by funciton (teachers vs students) or by hardware type (model)
[16-Apr-2008 14:46:40] <SEJeff> W8TAH, That depends on how you want to manage it. If you will be monitoring the devices differently for teacher vs students break them up
[16-Apr-2008 14:46:48] <W8TAH> ok
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:03] <SEJeff> W8TAH, But they all are the same type of devices so does it make sense to monitor teachers computers differently than students?
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:38] <W8TAH> not really -- i think i'll divide them by hardware model (i have 5)
[16-Apr-2008 14:47:43] <W8TAH> that seems to make more sense
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <W8TAH> is there a db refrsh that i need to do to get my newly created classes to show up on the device list page so i can move to them?
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:08] <W8TAH> shoot - im late
[16-Apr-2008 14:51:10] <W8TAH> back later
[16-Apr-2008 14:56:34] <npmccallum> SEJeff: how many devices are you monitoring?
[16-Apr-2008 15:03:46] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Well we are just benchmarking zenoss. Doing about 50 very active cisco switches with 1 second polling
[16-Apr-2008 15:04:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Still reading more on rrdtool to get the commands right for the rrd files
[16-Apr-2008 15:04:57] <Daern> SEJeff, if you get it right then let me know.
[16-Apr-2008 15:05:04] <SEJeff> Daern, Will do
[16-Apr-2008 15:11:22] <W8TAH> back - sorry abuot that -- and i found my solution
[16-Apr-2008 15:14:56] <SEJeff> npmccallum, How about you?
[16-Apr-2008 15:15:37] <npmccallum> SEJeff: we've tested with about 150 devices so far
[16-Apr-2008 15:15:59] <npmccallum> We're buying a beefy IBM x3650 to deploy
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:12] <SEJeff> npmccallum, What kind of stats?
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:43] <npmccallum> 2xquad-core @ 3GHz, 8GB, 6x300GB 15k SAS - RAID 10
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:46] <SEJeff> npmccallum, We got an HPDL380 with 12G ram, dual quad core 3.16GHZ cpus, and 8 drives
[16-Apr-2008 15:16:55] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Pretty comparable
[16-Apr-2008 15:17:19] <SEJeff> Actually, we took 4GB that comes with the HP out so only 8GB in ours also
[16-Apr-2008 15:17:46] <SEJeff> Put /opt/zenoss and /opt/zenoss/perf on different volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:18:35] <SEJeff> ^Huge win
[16-Apr-2008 15:18:48] <npmccallum> SEJeff: really!? just for seek thrashing?
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:00] <SEJeff> npmccallum, rrdtool thrashes the disk
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:06] <npmccallum> k
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:18] <SEJeff> npmccallum, It just creates static files and punches holes randomly in them. So it is lots of small random IO
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:22] <nemo__> npmccallum, were using 3650's too for the zenoss machine
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:41] <npmccallum> So, with only 6 disks, what is recommended?
[16-Apr-2008 15:19:53] <SEJeff> npmccallum, And for the perf volume, you might try reiserfs (although ext3 works fine)
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:01] <npmccallum> mirror for / and raid 10 for /opt/zenoss/perf?
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:02] <nemo__> yeh 3 groups of raid1
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:10] <nemo__> thats what we are using , 3 controllers
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:11] <SEJeff> Well Zenoss gave us a suggested partiton layout, but it was silly
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:33] <SEJeff> Well I would do: /, /opt/zenoss, and /opt/zenoss/perf on different volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:20:39] <SEJeff> Make a 2 disk mirror for /
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:03] <SEJeff> And use the rest for a big raid 10. Split those up into volumes
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:23] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Would you like me to forward the specs zenoss corporate suggested?
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:25] <npmccallum> Why not just one big RAID10 then?
[16-Apr-2008 15:21:29] <npmccallum> SEJeff: sure
[16-Apr-2008 15:22:44] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Because raid0 sucks for failures and raid10 can support >2 disk failure if they are the done right
[16-Apr-2008 15:23:26] <SEJeff> npmccallum, But if you can easily rebuild the machine and disks aren't an issue, raid0 would work
[16-Apr-2008 15:24:02] <SEJeff> Raid0 might make sense for the perf data, but would you want to do that for your whole OS?
[16-Apr-2008 15:24:18] <SEJeff> The Data.fs file is the zope db. You don't want to lose that
[16-Apr-2008 15:31:24] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Check your inbox
[16-Apr-2008 15:35:57] <SEJeff> npmccallum, btrfs git tree just got raid 10 support. It is going to be the Linux ZFS
[16-Apr-2008 15:40:41] <npmccallum> SEJeff: wow
[16-Apr-2008 15:41:34] <SEJeff> npmccallum, Development is moving along according to the roadmap if you read the git logs or rss feed
[16-Apr-2008 15:54:29] <npmccallum> SEJeff: where is the roadmap?
[16-Apr-2008 15:57:52] <SEJeff> http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Development_timeline
[16-Apr-2008 15:58:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Development timeline - btrfs Wiki (at btrfs.wiki.kernel.org)
[16-Apr-2008 16:27:11] <npmccallum> SEJeff: is that real RAID 10, or just concatenated RAID1s?
[16-Apr-2008 16:28:37] <SEJeff> Controller level real raid 10
[16-Apr-2008 16:30:00] <SEJeff> Wait a minute. Do you mean in btrfs?
[16-Apr-2008 16:30:45] <SEJeff> http://www.kernel.org/hg/index.cgi/btrfs/kernel-unstable/rev/f70f27e4c162
[16-Apr-2008 16:51:47] <W8TAH> im lookin at the section in the manual about monitoriing topology with zenping -- it says use the about page, but i cannot find the about page to choose the options off of
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:20] <W8TAH> im a bit confused -- i have some switches configured before i ran the auto discover routine. They were showing up in the network map -- after the autodiscover, they dont
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:33] <W8TAH> any idea what happened?
[16-Apr-2008 17:08:46] <W8TAH> (or more importantly how to get them back?
[16-Apr-2008 17:25:12] <cgibbons> hey look, it is the Cote
[16-Apr-2008 17:25:49] <cote> cgibbons: hello.
[16-Apr-2008 17:26:19] <W8TAH> can someone tell me where in the manual to look for instructions on clearing the entire database and starting over?
[16-Apr-2008 17:32:22] <cgibbons> w8tah, do you have the zenoss source download or just one of the vmware images, or?
[16-Apr-2008 17:32:42] <W8TAH> source download on ubunutu server
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:19] <W8TAH> the actual install seems to be working fine - but ive corrupted my data it appears
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:40] <W8TAH> so i want to wipe it out and start over and NOT run the auto discovery routine
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:47] <cgibbons> ok, if you go to the 'install' or 'zenossinst' directory or whatever you did check download from, there should be a zenwipe.sh script in there that you can run
[16-Apr-2008 17:33:57] <W8TAH> cool
[16-Apr-2008 17:36:08] <W8TAH> ok - i gotta switch rooms -- back shortly (i hope)
[16-Apr-2008 18:20:58] * idea4gud newline
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:39] <W8TAH> cgibbons, i ran that script and now i cant get into the web ui
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:42] <W8TAH> did i miss something?
[16-Apr-2008 18:43:51] <SEJeff> W8TAH, With admin:zenoss?
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:04] <W8TAH> OOHHH
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:06] <W8TAH> one sec
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:20] <W8TAH> gotit
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:22] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:27] <zen_amped> lol
[16-Apr-2008 18:44:30] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Thats the default
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:22] <zen_amped> and if you ever wanted to add a user via command line you can use
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:37] <SEJeff> zen_amped, How do you do that?
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:50] <zen_amped> # cd /usr/lib/zope
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:50] <zen_amped> # python bin/zpasswd.py -u <username> -p <password> inituser
[16-Apr-2008 18:45:58] <W8TAH> kewl
[16-Apr-2008 18:46:23] <zen_amped> I got that from the mailing list, thought it was nifity
[16-Apr-2008 18:46:43] <zen_amped> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18490#18490
[16-Apr-2008 18:47:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Default Login Help (at community.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 19:13:45] <SEJeff> Anyone care to explain the rrd create commands to me? Reading the rrdtool tutorial isn't helping understand the zenoss rrdtool RRA lines a whole lot
[16-Apr-2008 20:00:38] <W8TAH> im slowly re-adding my switches etc to zenoss - im wondering how to get them to properly align themselves in terms of network topology
[16-Apr-2008 20:00:49] <W8TAH> on the network map
[16-Apr-2008 20:02:22] <SEJeff> Create a location and assign them to that location
[16-Apr-2008 20:05:06] <W8TAH> oh - ok
[16-Apr-2008 20:05:44] <W8TAH> thanks Jeff -- lot to learn here
[16-Apr-2008 20:07:15] <SEJeff> No problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:21] <W8TAH> hummm... they are in locations now - but everything is attached to the central 192.168.0.0 cloud -- for example - -my domain controller should be hanging off the core switch
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:23] <W8TAH> but its not
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <SEJeff> Read the docs on the google maps stuff
[16-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <idea4gud> hi zenoss : http://pastebin.ca/984996
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:19] <W8TAH> ahh -- ok
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <W8TAH> thanks
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:31] <W8TAH> i was lookin in the wrong part of the maps apparently
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:39] <idea4gud> can any1 in the room lend me their ear
[16-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <idea4gud> just one
[16-Apr-2008 20:10:25] <SEJeff> As the question and if someone knows the answer they will tell you
[16-Apr-2008 20:13:24] <idea4gud> ok i have this webservice which i need to check if its output is correct or not
[16-Apr-2008 20:13:50] <idea4gud> i have readd the howto's link @ zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:08] <idea4gud> of monitoring the website with HttpMonitor
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:34] <idea4gud> but my webservice will only respond if it is queried
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:53] <idea4gud> So I am trying to check the output of my Webservice if its correct
[16-Apr-2008 20:14:54] <idea4gud> or not
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:14] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: BTW, the HttpMonitor link was updated yesterday
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:15] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:29] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual (at dev.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:45] <idea4gud> yeah thanx ray
[16-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <idea4gud> i downloaded as u said
[16-Apr-2008 20:16:27] <idea4gud> So now my point: is there anyway in zenoss that zenoss can run some script that queries a particular webserie
[16-Apr-2008 20:16:39] <idea4gud> and zenoss check the output and response time of the service
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:03] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: That would be nice. Especially if we did REST and SOAP ones
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:52] <mrayzenoss> there are a bunch of us learning to write ZenPacks right now, and that's something I think would be really useful
[16-Apr-2008 20:17:52] <idea4gud> i am a student so plz bear with me
[16-Apr-2008 20:18:19] <idea4gud> so u are tryin to say: u r still comin up with zenpack for this type of problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:18:56] <mrayzenoss> in the room right now, we're doing ircd, ftp, ntp, ldap, imap and maybe some others
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:04] <mrayzenoss> but a proper webservices one would be nice
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:11] <magnachef> ping npmccallum
[16-Apr-2008 20:19:41] <npmccallum> magnachef: hey
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:03] <cgibbons> hurm
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:22] <magnachef> just wondering how that NetApp zenpack turned out
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:29] <mrayzenoss> I don't think it's exactly on the radar, but I'd planned on pitching it
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:44] <W8TAH> SEJeff, i got the google maps part working but i think i mis spoke in my original question -- the map i was trying to work on is the 4th item down in the Main Views portion of the left column - the Network Map- (essentially the up down display)
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:45] <idea4gud> npmccallum: i have been asked to ping u for my problem
[16-Apr-2008 20:20:59] <npmccallum> idea4gud: ok, shoot
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:10] <idea4gud> well have seen my prblem?
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:12] <npmccallum> magnachef: its working well
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:22] <SEJeff> W8TAH, Sorry I don't have time to help you right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:23] <npmccallum> magnachef: can you test it on 2.2?
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:31] <W8TAH> SEJeff, no worries
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:37] <npmccallum> idea4gud: no, I haven't
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <idea4gud> well i hav a webservice which I want to check its response time and output if its correct
[16-Apr-2008 20:21:57] <npmccallum> oh, I'm reading it now
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:00] <npmccallum> gimme a sec
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:04] <idea4gud> k
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:22] <npmccallum> I have no idea
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:29] <SEJeff> npmccallum, You should be able to use the "nagios compatibility layer" and write a script to do the same thing
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:29] <npmccallum> I'm not that far along in my project yet
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:34] <magnachef> I'm currently running 2.1.3
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:45] <npmccallum> magnachef: well, it works with 2.1.x
[16-Apr-2008 20:22:50] <npmccallum> I want to test it on 2.2
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:03] <magnachef> ahhh, I may be able to set something up
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:24] <magnachef> I'd be happy to test it out though
[16-Apr-2008 20:23:31] <W8TAH> anyone else available - i think its simple, i just cant find it - on my network map, (4th item on the admin column) i cant get the various switches and servers to line up correctly - -they are all connected to the central cloud that represents my network and not in the proper order for up/down alerting etc
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:10] <SEJeff> W8TAH, There is a zproperty for turning the mapping on or off. It is in the docs if you read them. Sorry I don't have time to read through thtem all now
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:43] <idea4gud> npmcallum: so are you thruogh with my problem pretty clearly
[16-Apr-2008 20:24:44] <magnachef> npmccallum: if you want to email it to me, or if you're going to post it somewhere, I can test it out in a dev environment
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:00] * magnachef notices taht npmccallum is a popular guy right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:07] <npmccallum> magnachef: ok, I'll post it later this week
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:11] <npmccallum> I'm just swamped right now
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:16] <W8TAH> SEJeff - ya-- i found that property -- its turned on - (page 35) i guess i mis-configured something somewhere else - thanks anyway
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:18] <magnachef> heh, thanks
[16-Apr-2008 20:25:38] <magnachef> that'll give me time to setup 2.2 in a dev environment
[16-Apr-2008 20:26:25] <SEJeff> W8TAH, You have to have different locations created and assign the devices to those locations invidually or by class
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:27] <W8TAH> prehaps im starting from a wrong pre-supposition - -is that only for WAN links or also LAN?
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <W8TAH> (i only have lan links)
[16-Apr-2008 20:27:59] <SEJeff> It is for wan links
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:07] <W8TAH> ahh - ok - -my mistake - sorry --
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:20] <zen_amped> W8TAH, you are trying to get your stuff in the Network Map, to line up corretly right?
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:27] <W8TAH> zen_amped, yes
[16-Apr-2008 20:28:39] <W8TAH> zen_amped, 4th item in the left hand menu under main views
[16-Apr-2008 20:29:23] <zen_amped> right, umm, can you give me an exapmle of something not lining up correctly?
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:06] <W8TAH> zen - ok - for example - -my domain controller (dc-1) is connected (in the real network) to the core switch (arthur) but in the diagram both are connected to a central cloud called 192.168.0.0/24
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:31] <W8TAH> zen_amped, as i see it -- that would prevent notification of blocking outages etc
[16-Apr-2008 20:30:59] <W8TAH> zen_amped, im new to zenoss so its very possible im mis-understanding the application for the network map
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:47] <zen_amped> on the network map page, the top left corner, put in the name of your core switch and see if that helps you any
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:49] <W8TAH> ok - one moment
[16-Apr-2008 20:31:54] <zen_amped> were it says "selected Device or network"
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:07] <W8TAH> zen_amped, no change
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:29] <W8TAH> except that the core switch is now circled in a pale blue
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:38] <zen_amped> lol
[16-Apr-2008 20:32:45] <W8TAH> grin
[16-Apr-2008 20:34:35] <zen_amped> IDK if this helps but every device is connected to a network (the cloud you see) and even if your domain controller is physically connected to your switch on the "network map" it is connected to a network then your switch. IDK if there is a way to change that or not.
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:09] <W8TAH> ok - its possible it is not -- i was looking for blocking outage reporting but it may not be possible
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:14] <W8TAH> thanks for the assist
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:24] <zen_amped> np
[16-Apr-2008 20:35:38] <zen_amped> for sure check out the documentation
[16-Apr-2008 20:36:21] <W8TAH> zen_amped, i have - there is a short section about the network map on page 15 but it was inconclusive to my reading
[16-Apr-2008 20:37:34] <zen_amped> no bueno
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:24] <idea4gud> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 21:09:52] <idea4gud> I am followin this guide to monitor website for response time
[16-Apr-2008 21:10:16] <idea4gud> even though this zenpack is installed i cant select the Datasource Type as HttpMonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:10:20] <idea4gud> can any1 help me
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:11] <malbon> npmccallum: sorry missed it, not got the hang of this irssi thing
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:23] <npmccallum> malbon: np
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:26] <ibscott> i couldn't get it to work and had to use the nagios check check_httpd instead
[16-Apr-2008 21:12:59] <ibscott> then again, i can't get a LOT to work on zenoss, so it very well could just be me
[16-Apr-2008 21:16:08] <SEJeff> cgibbons, ping
[16-Apr-2008 21:28:35] <idea4gud> I am trying to add my Datasource as HttpMonitor type but i could not
[16-Apr-2008 21:29:26] <idea4gud> I following the Howto's for website monitoring with HttpMonitoring can anybody help me
[16-Apr-2008 21:38:36] <idea4gud> magnachef: i have the HttpMonitor loaded
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:08] <idea4gud> but when i try to add the template as per the instructions in zenoss guide http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[16-Apr-2008 21:39:28] <idea4gud> i cant see the HttpMonitor type
[16-Apr-2008 21:40:42] <magnachef> you need to add the link as a new device
[16-Apr-2008 21:42:56] <idea4gud> you mean the link i need to monitor should be added as a new device
[16-Apr-2008 21:43:21] <magnachef> i believe so
[16-Apr-2008 21:43:56] <idea4gud> yeah i did that
[16-Apr-2008 21:44:23] <idea4gud> but i am trying to set the performance template
[16-Apr-2008 21:47:12] <magnachef> I'm not really sure, as I haven't set any monitoring up with httpmonitor
[16-Apr-2008 21:50:40] <idea4gud> so did you monitor any webservice /website b4
[16-Apr-2008 21:50:48] <idea4gud> if so how
[16-Apr-2008 21:51:34] <magnachef> I haven't set it up in Zenoss before
[16-Apr-2008 21:51:49] <magnachef> I've done it via Perl scripts and RRDs in Cacti
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:20] <idea4gud> ok thanx magna for your help
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:27] <magnachef> you can also look at curl
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:38] <magnachef> you can get performance info that way
[16-Apr-2008 21:52:49] <magnachef> but there is a way to do it in zenoss, try posting in the forum
[16-Apr-2008 21:56:49] <idea4gud> you mean i call curl in a script
[16-Apr-2008 21:56:57] <idea4gud> and check the repsonse time
[16-Apr-2008 22:03:54] <magnachef> curl has built in stats
[16-Apr-2008 22:04:21] <magnachef> http://www.linux.com/articles/57715
[16-Apr-2008 22:04:28] <adytum-bot> Title: Linux.com :: CLI Magic: Use cURL to measure Web site statistics (at www.linux.com)
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:15] <magnachef> going forward though, I do plan on using Zenoss
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:29] <idea4gud> k
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:48] <idea4gud> ok also you said Ipservice hasto be added in OSpricess
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:50] <idea4gud> process
[16-Apr-2008 22:07:58] <idea4gud> lasst itme when i aksed
[16-Apr-2008 22:08:18] <magnachef> those should be two different things
[16-Apr-2008 22:08:30] <magnachef> OSProcess and IPService are different
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:27] <b52laptop> hm ppl under ./zenoss/lib
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:34] <b52laptop> there is a ruby repertory !?
[16-Apr-2008 22:10:44] <b52laptop> what zenoss use ruby for ?
[16-Apr-2008 22:11:45] * magnachef shurgs
[16-Apr-2008 22:11:53] <magnachef> s/shurgs/shrugs/
[16-Apr-2008 22:12:46] <idea4gud> you said i have to add Httpd underr OSProcess
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:05] <idea4gud> and Ipservice
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:06] <magnachef> to watch httpd process, yeah
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:14] <magnachef> IPService checks port 80
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:36] <idea4gud> so how do i add IPservice
[16-Apr-2008 22:13:43] <magnachef> for OSProcess though, I believe you need the HRSWInstalled (something like that) MIB
[16-Apr-2008 22:14:31] <magnachef> under the device status page
[16-Apr-2008 22:14:37] <magnachef> click on the OS tagb
[16-Apr-2008 22:15:38] <magnachef> then click on the drop down and click on Add IPService
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:32] <magnachef> or you can go to /Services/IpService/Privileged and find the Service to watch, and click on it, and enable it for certain devices
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:46] <idea4gud> it justs checks whether tcp port @ 80 is up or down
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:55] <idea4gud> i have it running
[16-Apr-2008 22:17:57] <magnachef> yep
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[17-Apr-2008 09:23:04] <brb> hi all
[17-Apr-2008 09:27:32] <brb> guys, i'm have problem with Menus in zenoss 2.1.3 on FreeBSD 7.0, menu not present. somebody can help me?
[17-Apr-2008 09:42:16] <brb> i has found this hint for migrate http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18631#18631 but i not migrate
[17-Apr-2008 09:42:32] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - No menus in 2.0.2 (at community.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 10:04:28] <mf2ng> hmmz
[17-Apr-2008 10:05:11] <mf2ng> ldap authentication works fine, but zope roles does not enumerate as they should from ldap...
[17-Apr-2008 10:05:18] <mf2ng> ...any hint any1?
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:17] <mf2ng> and brb, don't know for sure but that importerror seems to have a problem with rrd server...
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:22] <mf2ng> ImportError: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/rrdtoolmodule.so: Undefined symbol "FT_Init_FreeType"
[17-Apr-2008 10:06:46] <mf2ng> some font perhaps, as the symbolname seems to point
[17-Apr-2008 10:26:40] <brb> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 10:30:37] <mf2ng> if your case is same as that forum post i mean
[17-Apr-2008 10:34:32] <brb> how i can correct this?
[17-Apr-2008 10:36:45] <mf2ng> if that's an font prob, maybe installing the correct font could help. dunno, that was just an wild guess...
[17-Apr-2008 10:37:07] <mf2ng> ...freetype
[17-Apr-2008 10:38:51] <brb> pkg_add -r freetype has not helped
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:06] <mf2ng> heh
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:09] <mf2ng> no wonder
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:12] <mf2ng>
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:29] <mf2ng> maybe you should look for the freebsd basics then first
[17-Apr-2008 10:39:39] <mf2ng> ports/packages
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:09] <mf2ng> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing Applications: Packages and Ports (at www.freebsd.org)
[17-Apr-2008 10:40:46] <mf2ng> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=freetype&stype=all
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:00] <adytum-bot> Title: FreeBSD Ports Search (at www.freebsd.org)
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:04] <brb> ok, now try install freetype from ports
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:08] <mf2ng> so, perhaps defining existant packagename could help for example
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:34] <mf2ng> it's not relevant that do you install the right package from ports or not
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:44] <mf2ng> relevant is that you define right name for it
[17-Apr-2008 10:41:45] <mf2ng>
[17-Apr-2008 10:42:41] <mf2ng> and maybe you should first check what freetype packages you may have allready
[17-Apr-2008 10:42:47] <mf2ng> pkg_info
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:11] <brb> freetype-1.3.1_4
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:13] <brb> freetype2-2.3.5
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:23] <mf2ng> but still, there's nothing to ensure that your problem is in the font's
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:32] <mf2ng> it's just probability
[17-Apr-2008 10:43:45] <mf2ng> possibility i meant
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:17] <mf2ng> well, maybe i should do my own jobs for a while
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:18] <mf2ng> <=
[17-Apr-2008 10:44:59] <brb> i understand
[17-Apr-2008 10:45:23] <brb> tnx
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[17-Apr-2008 11:22:55] <W8TAH> mornin yall
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:16] <nemo__> afternoon ;p
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:23] <W8TAH>
[17-Apr-2008 11:30:58] <b52laptop> launch time :d
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:10] <W8TAH> jool
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:13] <W8TAH> kool
[17-Apr-2008 11:31:49] <brb>
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:13] <nemo__> if self.quitting: raise BdbQuit
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:13] <nemo__> BdbQuit
[17-Apr-2008 12:00:22] <nemo__> what needs to be raised?
[17-Apr-2008 12:03:38] cgibbons__ is now known as cgibbons
[17-Apr-2008 12:31:01] <Fikrann> Hello! Is there any guide for adding collector plugins? I have extended the 'remote monitoring script' but I can't find a way to actually get zenoss to query my exensions.
[17-Apr-2008 12:33:47] <SEJeff> Fikrann, Maybe you need to restart ZenOSS?
[17-Apr-2008 12:37:38] <Fikrann> SEJeff, I haven't touched anything zenoss-side. I just mapped a device with the extended script and I'm looking for a way to use those exensions.
[17-Apr-2008 12:43:20] <SEJeff> Never done that, sorry
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:15] <Fikrann> Do you know of any method of getting zenoss to monitor some new server property? It's Linux accessible through SSH...
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:29] <SEJeff> Does it have snmpd installed?
[17-Apr-2008 12:44:55] <SEJeff> The default is to poll via the snmp collector. If you don't have snmpd installed, you need to do 1 of 2 things
[17-Apr-2008 12:45:06] <SEJeff> Put it in a device class that you have use the ssh collector
[17-Apr-2008 12:45:17] <SEJeff> Or add individually the ssh collector
[17-Apr-2008 12:46:01] <nemo__> Fikrann, copy an existing collector plugin, rename it w/e and restart zeo ( zeoctl restart ) as zenoss
[17-Apr-2008 12:46:45] <nemo__> oh yes, if its snmp as SEJeff says ( i always assume snmp these days ! )
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:01] <Fikrann> SEJeff, I have ssh collector installed, yes.
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:20] <Fikrann> it's monitoring all the basic stuff already.
[17-Apr-2008 12:47:23] <SEJeff> Fikrann, You have to specify to use it. ZenOSS does not portscan anything unless you tell it to
[17-Apr-2008 12:48:04] <Fikrann> No portscans; I need it to query a specific command on the server.
[17-Apr-2008 12:48:14] <SEJeff> ok so add a new command
[17-Apr-2008 12:50:14] <SEJeff> Create a device class for that server. Go to the menu --> More --> Collector Plugins
[17-Apr-2008 12:50:43] <SEJeff> If you've already added the command, you can click add and it will be tehre
[17-Apr-2008 12:51:23] <Fikrann> Sorry for asking a dumb question but where do I add a new command in zenoss gui?
[17-Apr-2008 12:52:53] <SEJeff> Fikrann, Forgot how, give me a minute
[17-Apr-2008 12:55:24] <nemo__> settings ( left menu ) -> commands tab
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:26] <SEJeff> nemo__, I think that is only commands that you run from the gui
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:39] <nemo__> hmmmz not sure
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:43] <nemo__> might be right
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:48] <SEJeff> nemo__, As in click the device, menu --> Run commands
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:53] <SEJeff> Thats not what he wants
[17-Apr-2008 12:56:56] * nemo__ nods
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[17-Apr-2008 13:07:55] <SEJeff> Fikrann, It is adding a new Collector Plugin and I can't find where to do that
[17-Apr-2008 13:09:15] <nemo__> Fikrann, copy an existing collector plugin, rename it w/e and restart zeo ( zeoctl restart ) as zenoss
[17-Apr-2008 13:16:06] * Fikrann nods. "Will try that, thank you."
[17-Apr-2008 16:16:06] <mcblad1> Is anyone here who has events from syslogs from remote machines ?
[17-Apr-2008 17:31:57] <garnica> I've got this evet: localhost.localdomain zenactions heartbeat failure
[17-Apr-2008 17:32:15] <garnica> very frequently ..... what is its meaning ??
[17-Apr-2008 17:57:55] <garnica> how can I send an SNMP Test Trap to my Zenoss server ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:01:30] <HexGhost> hello, im wondering if anyone is around to help me with a new zenoss install
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:12] <garnica> yep ... whats the deal ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:25] <HexGhost> well, first let me say it looks really cool
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:29] <HexGhost> but its also really complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:37] <HexGhost> what i want to do with zenoss is monitor 30+ websites
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:50] <cgibbons_> should be easy to do
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:54] <cgibbons_> "easy"
[17-Apr-2008 18:03:56] <HexGhost> heh
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[17-Apr-2008 18:04:02] <HexGhost> im reading this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:15] <HexGhost> but then halfway down there is the "grey" paragraph from "jdb" which is freaking me out
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:16] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:04:31] <HexGhost> heh
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:20] <garnica> so whats your problem ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:27] <HexGhost> well
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:46] <garnica> have you installed it successfully ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:05:54] <HexGhost> zenoss? ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:02] <HexGhost> im using it on windows, so i downloaded the vmware player and the image
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:07] <HexGhost> that was really easy, so its up and running now
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:15] <HexGhost> then i installed the HttpMonitor, i think i have that working now
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:37] <HexGhost> its hard to tell because there are so many different properties :\
[17-Apr-2008 18:06:55] <garnica> ok....
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:11] <garnica> so you want to monitor http servers right ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:16] <HexGhost> ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:20] <HexGhost> more specifically the website itself
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:32] <HexGhost> not just pinging the server
[17-Apr-2008 18:07:56] <garnica> I would advice you to use SNMP enabled traps from each server so you can receive the status inside the Zenoss event console
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:05] <HexGhost> uhm
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:14] <HexGhost> that would require setting up SNMP on the servers right?
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:22] <garnica> you can monitor processes, performance,, whatever
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:27] <garnica> right !
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:34] <HexGhost> hm
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:35] <garnica> is not that painful
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:37] <HexGhost> i really don't want to do that
[17-Apr-2008 18:08:54] <HexGhost> i just want zenoss to hit a website, if its HTTP 200 great, if not alert me
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:11] <garnica> the first issue here, is to identify what you'd like to monitor ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:21] <garnica> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:09:23] <HexGhost> i want to monitor websites
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:01] <garnica> ok... but that is very wide....... let's say one webserver... ok...
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <garnica> so you want to monitor iis ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:13] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:23] <HexGhost> sure, although i think that might be innaccurate
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:26] <HexGhost> IIS is a server process
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:27] <garnica> iss activities ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:51] <HexGhost> i want to make sure that website www.myexamplewebsite.com is alive, alive being you can get a HTTP 200 status code if you hit it
[17-Apr-2008 18:10:52] <garnica> ok ... the server processes ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:06] <garnica> ok...
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:07] <HexGhost> i don't care about the process itself, or the cpu usage, blah blah blah
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:15] <HexGhost> i just want to hit a url and see if it works
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:43] <HexGhost> all my servers are windows
[17-Apr-2008 18:11:49] <HexGhost> so im afraid doing anything more complicated will be...complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:20] <garnica> I would use SNMP to send requests from the zenoss system to the webserver.... specifically asking about the http status.....
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:29] <HexGhost> whaa?
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:35] <HexGhost> sorry that just sounds really complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:12:53] <HexGhost> why use SNMP to do TCP/HTTP ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:04] <garnica> do you know what is SNMP ?
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:18] <HexGhost> i know it stands for simple network management protocol, and thats about it
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:36] <garnica> jajaja.. ok.. there's more about it !!
[17-Apr-2008 18:13:41] <HexGhost> im sure
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:01] <garnica> and it is not much complicated
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:09] <HexGhost> well thats good then
[17-Apr-2008 18:14:48] <garnica> ok.... you go to the icon "My PC" in the server, right-click it, and select "Administer"
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:08] <HexGhost> you mean "manage?
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:35] <garnica> Sorry, I meant "Manage"
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:38] <garnica> yep
[17-Apr-2008 18:15:38] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:13] <garnica> there you expand a tree on the left side of the window that says something about "Services"
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:22] <HexGhost> ij
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:24] <HexGhost> er ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:27] <HexGhost> got that
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:52] <garnica> you select services and a large list appears on the right side of the screen
[17-Apr-2008 18:16:57] <HexGhost> yep
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:03] <HexGhost> got lots of em
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:12] <garnica> look for "Service SNMP"
[17-Apr-2008 18:17:52] <HexGhost> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:15] <HexGhost> i dont see it :\
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:34] <HexGhost> probably means i have to install it
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:37] <garnica> from the list of services doublce click "SNMP Service"
[17-Apr-2008 18:19:47] <HexGhost> ya, i dont have a "SNMP service"
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:11] <garnica> you have windows ??? server ??
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:15] <HexGhost> yes
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:20] <HexGhost> windows server 2003
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:31] <garnica> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315154
[17-Apr-2008 18:20:38] <adytum-bot> Title: HOW TO: Configure Security for a Simple Network Management Protocol Service in Windows 2000 (at support.microsoft.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:21:01] <HexGhost> ya i need to install it, one sec
[17-Apr-2008 18:21:52] <HexGhost> http://66.135.149.201/~ghost/a.png
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:05] <HexGhost> it wasn't installed yet i guess, must not come installed by default
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:36] <garnica> should not be much problem to install it
[17-Apr-2008 18:22:43] <HexGhost> ya
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:08] <HexGhost> arg it wants the stupid windows 2003 server cd
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:19] <HexGhost> do we have to use SNMP?
[17-Apr-2008 18:23:33] <HexGhost> these servers are colocated away from my office, so i won't be able to get the cd to them anytime soon
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:02] <SEJeff> HexGhost, You don't have out of band management?
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:32] <garnica> I would advice you to use SNMP.... it is fast 'cause it uses UDP
[17-Apr-2008 18:24:34] <SEJeff> HexGhost, Dell servers have the Drac card, HPs have their LOM, and sun servers have the ILOM that allows you to map an ISO over the network to a virtual cdrom
[17-Apr-2008 18:25:15] <HexGhost> well these are dell, but i have no idea what a drac card is
[17-Apr-2008 18:25:29] <HexGhost> nor what out of band management is
[17-Apr-2008 18:26:22] <HexGhost> really tho, i have to have SNMP to do this?
[17-Apr-2008 18:26:55] <SEJeff> HexGhost, Well thats sad. You can use WMI to do this without SNMP, but it is cleaner / easier with SNMP
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:22] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:30] <HexGhost> seriously tho. i just want to hit a website to see if its ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:36] <SEJeff> HexGhost, FYI: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/ps2q02_bell Ask your dell rep about these
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:39] <HexGhost> that shouldn't require WMI, SNMP, anything but HTTP
[17-Apr-2008 18:27:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Remote Systems Management Using the Dell Remote Access Card (at www.dell.com)
[17-Apr-2008 18:28:21] <HexGhost> ah
[17-Apr-2008 18:28:29] <HexGhost> im betting we don't have those, unless they come installed by default
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:31] <HexGhost> hmm
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:36] <HexGhost> i may have no choice but to use SNMP
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:36] <SEJeff> HexGhost, It is in the adminguide
[17-Apr-2008 18:30:43] <HexGhost> the HttpMonitor just blew up trying to follow the install guide
[17-Apr-2008 18:31:07] <HexGhost> http://66.135.149.201/~ghost/error.png
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:21] <Mark`> ive only been using zenoss for a few days but it seems very set in its ways
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:33] <Mark`> theres a certain way to do everything
[17-Apr-2008 18:38:45] <HexGhost> hm
[17-Apr-2008 18:39:57] <Mark`> ive only done it the standard ways though
[17-Apr-2008 18:39:59] <Mark`> snmp, etc
[17-Apr-2008 18:40:03] <HexGhost> ok
[17-Apr-2008 18:40:22] <HexGhost> maybe its not the right software for me :| i really don't care about monitoring network hardware
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[17-Apr-2008 18:52:38] <Mark`> i dont really know how all the data is fed
[17-Apr-2008 18:52:58] <Mark`> to add a device you just add the host and set some snmp stats and i think it sets it up all through snmp
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:10] <Mark`> but perhaps theres a way to add a device manually with a config file of sorts
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:33] <cgibbons> you can add a device without it doing any SNMP discovery
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:43] <Mark`> i think thats what hexghost needs
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:45] <cgibbons> and then you can bind the HttpMonitor template so it just does that
[17-Apr-2008 18:53:53] <Mark`> ahh
[17-Apr-2008 18:54:13] <cgibbons> when you add device, type in host name and pick a device class path, and the next line is discovery protocol; change that from snmp to none
[17-Apr-2008 18:54:43] <Mark`> oh and then you can fill it all out manually?
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:12] <cgibbons> that's one way, there are others, too (im a zenoss noob )
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:25] <Mark`> me too
[17-Apr-2008 18:55:36] <Mark`> but for all zenoss's quirks i still find it much nicer than nagios etc
[17-Apr-2008 18:56:03] <Mark`> zenoss and cacti together have been really nice
[17-Apr-2008 19:01:14] <HexGhost> well, the httpmonitor template broke
[17-Apr-2008 19:01:21] <HexGhost> so that isn't going to work for me
[17-Apr-2008 19:06:44] <HexGhost> anyway, thanks for the help all, im going to lunch
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[17-Apr-2008 20:20:00] <garnica> a
[17-Apr-2008 20:25:55] idg|dinner is now known as indradg
[17-Apr-2008 21:41:30] <sircco> hello people, does zenoss have alarm filter?
[17-Apr-2008 21:41:41] <sircco> so i can query somehow filter database and get what i want
[17-Apr-2008 22:01:05] <garnica> as far as I understand, Zenoss can filter alarms
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:09] <garnica> from this link: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ you have the Admin guide
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:30] <garnica> Section 10
[17-Apr-2008 22:03:43] <garnica> Subsection 15
[17-Apr-2008 22:04:00] <garnica> 10.15 SNMP Traps and event transforms
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:06] <garnica> actually, this is what I am trying to do
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:40] <garnica> as far as I can see, you need the mib of the device you want to administer
[17-Apr-2008 22:05:51] <garnica> upload it to the zenoss server
[17-Apr-2008 22:06:05] <garnica> then classify the alarm by creating a class
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:07] <idea4gud> hi guyz: I am trying to access the dashboard from remote machine
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:20] <idea4gud> but my zenoss machine is behind the firewall
[17-Apr-2008 22:08:47] <idea4gud> so cant i access the zenoss web Interface from a machcine that is outside the firewall
[17-Apr-2008 22:24:02] <sircco> oki ..im writing some documentation but i couldnt find that functionality and i dont have commercial version in hand
[17-Apr-2008 22:31:17] <garnica> I'm back !
[17-Apr-2008 22:32:18] <garnica> ok guys !! how do I save all incomming events on my hard disk ???
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[18-Apr-2008 00:38:41] <garnica> bye people !
[18-Apr-2008 00:38:49] <garnica> see 'ya around !
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[18-Apr-2008 04:14:42] <Mark`> anyway to have zenhub only listen on localhost
[18-Apr-2008 04:14:47] <Mark`> i dont plan on doing anything advanced with it
[18-Apr-2008 04:14:56] <Mark`> dont need 8081 and 8789 bound to wildcard
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:15] <Mark`> hah
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:19] <Mark`> finally figured it out.. i think
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:47] <Mark`> modified the python
[18-Apr-2008 04:19:48] <Mark`> nbd i guess
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[18-Apr-2008 08:31:06] <nemo__> morning
[18-Apr-2008 08:44:31] <nemo__> if your device class zproperties say ignore ping and snmp ( for discovered devices ), to be less noisy
[18-Apr-2008 08:44:40] <nemo__> why do i get events in the console from them?
[18-Apr-2008 10:34:55] <mcblady> Is there any way how to activate syslog events ? I can see syslogs with zensyslog -v10 in zensyslog log file, but it wont show up in events and without debuging not even in log file.
[18-Apr-2008 11:11:01] <nemo__> mcblady, that would be your priorties etc
[18-Apr-2008 11:11:36] <nemo__> reading the code of /opt/zenoss/Products/ZenEvents/SyslogProcessing.py will help you see how it works
[18-Apr-2008 11:15:21] <mcblady> nemo__: Actually i have checked that one and all i was getting is no eventClassKey assigned, so i have done small modification - something like http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-dev/2008/001892.html and finally im getting eventClassKey and however i added new eventclasskeys in events its not showing up in zenoss. Just in log file...
[18-Apr-2008 11:15:47] <nemo__> event class key or component ?
[18-Apr-2008 11:16:40] <mcblady> nemo__: mapping
[18-Apr-2008 11:16:58] <nemo__> i understand the issue mcblady , but i found i had to have a component
[18-Apr-2008 11:17:14] <nemo__> adjusting the regex's in that file is whats needed
[18-Apr-2008 11:17:34] <nemo__> your case might be different
[18-Apr-2008 11:20:02] <mcblady> nemo__: I will have a look. thanks anyway...
[18-Apr-2008 11:49:22] <mcblady> nemo__: from evt['eventClassKey'] = evt['component'] is component the eventClassKey set up, the output is zen.Syslog: eventClassKey=postfix/smtpd for example. So there shouldnt be a problem. Problem starting when you want to see that event on web and not just in logs..
[18-Apr-2008 12:31:00] <nemo__> and you get an error that you couldnt map the event ?
[18-Apr-2008 12:32:26] <mcblady> nemo__: actually all i can see is in zensyslog. Nothing in zeneventslog or web interface... and no error in zensyslog.log its not making any sense for me
[18-Apr-2008 12:32:38] <nemo__> you need a component
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:13] <mcblady> what do you mean with component.. component == evt['eventClassKey'] = evt['component'] or component == columm next to device in events ?
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:32] <nemo__> yes column / field
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:43] <nemo__> you know you can edit which fields you show?
[18-Apr-2008 12:34:50] <nemo__> settings - >
[18-Apr-2008 12:37:52] <mcblady> i think i dont
[18-Apr-2008 13:46:46] <going_bald> ne1 home?
[18-Apr-2008 13:46:59] * going_bald pulls tufts of hair out of his head
[18-Apr-2008 14:07:24] <tim_abell> Hi all. I've been using winexe to fire a task off on a 2003 server, and I just installed SP2 and a whole load of other updates. The winexesvc is now crashing whenever I try to run the task. The error: http://pastebin.com/m64559052 Can anyone lend a hand?
[18-Apr-2008 14:08:13] <tim_abell> I've tried "sc delete winexesvc" which completed, but didn't solve the problem.
[18-Apr-2008 14:37:32] <duncan__> Hey I'm trying to fix my OSProcess alerts and not having much luck... I added a process to monitor (vmware-serverd), and somehow it is monitoring two processes, one for /usr/sbin/vmware-serverd which it doesn't see running, and one for /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snm that is seen as running.
[18-Apr-2008 14:38:07] <duncan__> one is under the /snmp class (the working one), and the non working one is in /vmware-serverd class
[18-Apr-2008 14:38:35] <duncan__> Should I just remove vmware-serverd from the monitored processes and let snmp do the monitoring?
[18-Apr-2008 14:50:55] <magnachef> you should probably check you regexp for matching the processes
[18-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <magnachef> I ran into a similar issue with httpd
[18-Apr-2008 14:52:36] <magnachef> see: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5557
[18-Apr-2008 14:52:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Problem With Apache OSProcess RegExp... (at community.zenoss.com)
[18-Apr-2008 15:10:38] <duncan__> magnachef: thanks, checking out the thread
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[18-Apr-2008 18:41:25] <KillMeNo1> gibbons?
[18-Apr-2008 19:14:47] <cgibbons> hmm?
[18-Apr-2008 19:19:52] <magnachef> Peter Gibbons? "Yeeeaah...we're gonna need you to come in on Saturday. um-kay?!"
[18-Apr-2008 19:20:02] <cgibbons> heh
[18-Apr-2008 19:37:12] <Hellaenergy> How does Zenoss differ from OpsView/Nagios?
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:08] <Mark`> in my limited experience
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:15] <Mark`> zenoss seems to be a lot more automated and web based
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:22] <magnachef> much easier to configure
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:24] <Mark`> yea
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:34] <Mark`> i havent had to touch a text file at all
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:39] <Mark`> but ive had to tinker with a web gui for a while
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:40] <magnachef> it discovers things based on device type, and starts monitoring it by default
[18-Apr-2008 19:41:43] <Mark`> learning some nuances
[18-Apr-2008 19:42:10] <Mark`> basically it seems like zenoss tries to monitor everything it can to start with, and you chop the parts you dont want and lock the profile
[18-Apr-2008 19:43:23] <Hellaenergy> Mark`, have you seen OpsView?
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:24] <Hellaenergy> So Zenoss has its own client side agent?
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:37] <magnachef> net-snmp
[18-Apr-2008 19:44:54] <magnachef> but it can also ssh in and check things, if you want
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:05] <Hellaenergy> makes sense
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:10] <magnachef> so no zenoss specific agent
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:30] <Hellaenergy> Does it come with it's own MIB's?
[18-Apr-2008 19:45:53] <magnachef> no, you'll need to add the mibs
[18-Apr-2008 19:46:45] <Hellaenergy> Anything Zenoss is lacking?
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:07] <Hellaenergy> For instance can it do escalations?
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:28] <magnachef> it does lack in depth documentation, I'll say that
[18-Apr-2008 19:47:58] <magnachef> escalations as in if still red after 30 min, call jim, after 50 min, call mike
[18-Apr-2008 19:48:04] <Hellaenergy> Is there an API?
[18-Apr-2008 19:48:38] <Hellaenergy> For instance would it be easy to add a host or service remotely from a cli?
[18-Apr-2008 19:49:22] <Hellaenergy> That's a shame to have a "Open" solution that lacks documentation. The site seems quite commercial though. Maybe that is the draw to pay for it.
[18-Apr-2008 19:50:01] <Hellaenergy> I found the API: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.1/
[18-Apr-2008 19:50:14] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[18-Apr-2008 19:52:36] <magnachef> there's a REST command that you can do via command line/wget to add devices
[18-Apr-2008 19:54:00] <magnachef> one thing that I wasn't happy with, is that you cannot add a service to a group of servers. You need to add the service to each server individually, then lock it from deleting the next time it models the device
[18-Apr-2008 19:54:37] <magnachef> the forums are a pretty good help
[18-Apr-2008 19:55:10] <magnachef> the docs give you a high level overview, but not much indepth - it takes a little playing around with it to figure it out
[18-Apr-2008 19:55:47] <magnachef> with that said, I think it's a nice product, and a lot nicer than products like Big Brother, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:00:31] <magnachef> I like Cacti for reporting and historical trending more than the perf information available in Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:02:50] <Hellaenergy> magnachef, so are you using Cacti with Zenoss?
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:09] <magnachef> I'm using both, but not integrated (yet?)
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:37] <magnachef> I'm using Cacti for my historical reporting and aggregate graphing, reporting, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:40] <Hellaenergy> RRDTool just doesn't cut it for you?
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:49] <magnachef> Cacti uses RRDTool
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <magnachef> so does Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <Hellaenergy> I see
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:03] <Hellaenergy> I've heard a lot of positive things about Cacti
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:11] <magnachef> I like the templates and ease of creating data templates, and graph templates, etc
[18-Apr-2008 20:04:41] <magnachef> it's real easy to setup host templates, and add/remove metrics
[18-Apr-2008 20:05:11] <magnachef> yeah...there is a cacti plugin for Zenoss (I've seen talked about around the net)
[18-Apr-2008 20:05:19] <magnachef> or maybe it's a Zenoss plugin for Cacti, not sure
[18-Apr-2008 20:06:16] <magnachef> Cacti is nice for graphing and things like that - I like how it allows you to zoom in to sections of the graphs (as compared to Zenoss' version of it)
[18-Apr-2008 20:07:00] <magnachef> recently people have been growing Cacti into a bigger product than just the graphing/reporting through the plugin architecture
[18-Apr-2008 20:08:01] <magnachef> I'm not sold on that, and would prefer something like Zenoss that stores all my device information in a central spot, integrated with events, and have it poll for processes and services running
[18-Apr-2008 20:08:16] <magnachef> I plan on getting syslog and other feeders into Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:09:29] <magnachef> another good thing with Zenoss is that it has a "CMDB". I found the CMDB limited, but we've created our own CMDB and did some custom coding to integrate it into Zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <magnachef> I'm just doing a little brain dump, as I've recently gone through evaluating what product to use for monitoring and reporting
[18-Apr-2008 20:26:27] <Mark`> np
[18-Apr-2008 20:32:08] <Hellaenergy> What's CMDB
[18-Apr-2008 20:34:52] <magnachef> configuration management database
[18-Apr-2008 20:34:58] <magnachef> it's an ITIL thing
[18-Apr-2008 20:42:32] <cgibbons> are you using your own homegrown CMDB, magnachef, or one of the other vendors'?
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:28] <magnachef> homegrown
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:44] <magnachef> it's way cheaper, more open/flexible
[18-Apr-2008 20:43:55] <going_bald> most everything is already in zenoss to do a cmdb
[18-Apr-2008 20:44:19] <magnachef> well, "most" is the key
[18-Apr-2008 20:44:53] <magnachef> there's things like power consumption, contract numbers, leased date, etc, is not
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:00] <going_bald> I'm surprised it's not something on the product road map
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:08] <going_bald> for zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:17] <going_bald> true
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:28] <going_bald> just fields in a db table
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:42] <magnachef> there also needs to be a better way to run exports or automated reports of the CMDB stuff too
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:52] * going_bald nods
[18-Apr-2008 20:45:55] <magnachef> yeah, but I think Zenoss does it with Zope objects
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:15] <magnachef> so you can't do a standard mysql query
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:23] <magnachef> there's a few hoops to jump through
[18-Apr-2008 20:46:26] <going_bald> I have hard core python programmer friends that aren't big fans of zope.
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:05] <going_bald> "zope is a mess"
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:12] <going_bald> heh
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:13] <magnachef> yeah, I'm a Perl guy, and not really a big python person, so I'm undecided on Zope
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:16] <magnachef> heh
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:19] <magnachef> nice
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:26] <magnachef> I've heard taht it's a resource hog too
[18-Apr-2008 20:47:45] <going_bald> yeah, I'm perl literate as well, but I've been doing reading/studying on python and it's very nice.
[18-Apr-2008 20:48:59] <going_bald> I'd love for zenoss to have an ip address management module
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:12] <magnachef> yeah, I've been doing the same
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:14] <going_bald> just extend the ip database so you can add/manage
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:20] <going_bald> subnets
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:31] <magnachef> I thought there was something like that
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:51] <magnachef> under /Networks
[18-Apr-2008 20:49:57] <going_bald> it's in there, but it likes to discover everything
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:07] <magnachef> it gives subnets, number of IPs, Free IPs
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:18] <going_bald> there have been issues in the past with discovered networks being overridden
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:28] <going_bald> or I should say static
[18-Apr-2008 20:50:45] <magnachef> yeah
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:06] <going_bald> we have about 8 /16's and I've not found a way of generating them within zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <magnachef> i have a handful of those as well
[18-Apr-2008 20:51:51] <going_bald> i.e. 10.1.x.x->10.1.2.x.->10.1.2.x/24
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:02] <magnachef> seems like they're showing up under /Networks though
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:08] <magnachef> ahhh
[18-Apr-2008 20:52:33] <going_bald> then going from the 10.1.2.0/24->10.1.2.16/28.. blah blah
[18-Apr-2008 20:53:08] <going_bald> need some utilities/plugins to populate networks that will never be discovered as part of a device discovery
[18-Apr-2008 20:53:52] <going_bald> but it does not seem terribly difficult to do something like that with zenoss
[18-Apr-2008 20:54:07] <going_bald> maybe when I get a better grasp of Zope/Zenoss/Python
[18-Apr-2008 20:56:49] <gordont> I'm interested in doing snmptraps whenever an event is triggered, is the best way to do that is to setup a zencommand to trigger an snmptrap binary?
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:06] <going_bald> I'm interested in doing the same thing
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:10] <going_bald> I saw a HOWTO on it
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:14] <going_bald> on the zenoss site
[18-Apr-2008 20:57:34] <going_bald> let me see if I can find it
[18-Apr-2008 20:58:01] <going_bald> because the "Microsoft Guys" have to use their over priced SCOM "what's up gold" tool
[18-Apr-2008 20:58:13] <gordont> thanks
[18-Apr-2008 21:02:53] <going_bald> one sec
[18-Apr-2008 21:02:58] <going_bald> I know it's here somewhere
[18-Apr-2008 21:06:13] <magnachef> heh, what's up gold is $$$$
[18-Apr-2008 21:07:13] <gordont> hah, wug isn't any more expensive then if you buy a supported zenoss install
[18-Apr-2008 21:08:14] <magnachef> we have a script that goes out to and grabs info from servers then auto imports into CMDB
[18-Apr-2008 21:08:21] <magnachef> yeah, true...Zenoss is very pricey as well
[18-Apr-2008 21:12:30] * magnachef heads out for the weekend
[18-Apr-2008 21:13:26] <going_bald> ttfn
[18-Apr-2008 21:13:32] <going_bald> I can't find the silly thing
[18-Apr-2008 21:43:21] <DarkFoxDK> hey, i am having some trouble with the zenoss VMware appliance
[18-Apr-2008 21:43:56] <DarkFoxDK> i have set it up with a NAT network in vmware, and are trying to map port 8080 to it with shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 21:44:44] <DarkFoxDK> the rule in shorewall seems to be working fine, but i can't open the page anyway...
[18-Apr-2008 21:53:58] <DarkFoxDK> anyone?
[18-Apr-2008 21:54:34] <DarkFoxDK> there's 41 people in this channel, how can it be so quiet?
[18-Apr-2008 21:55:50] <Mark`> dunno
[18-Apr-2008 21:59:04] <DarkFoxDK> *sigh*
[18-Apr-2008 21:59:42] <DarkFoxDK> ok then, i have this rule in shorewall on the host: DNAT:debug net vmnat:192.168.243.128 tcp 8080
[18-Apr-2008 22:00:00] <DarkFoxDK> is this wrong or right?
[18-Apr-2008 22:07:25] <DarkFoxDK> a lot of strong-silent types inhere?
[18-Apr-2008 22:08:46] <Mark`> i dunno much about shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:05] <Mark`> youve got dnat to .128 on 8080
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:13] <Mark`> but when you hit your public ip you cant see it?
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:20] <DarkFoxDK> yes
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:24] <Mark`> can you see it within the lan?
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:36] <DarkFoxDK> oh, haven't checked
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:40] <Mark`> try that first
[18-Apr-2008 22:09:48] <Mark`> so you know if it is a zenoss or firewall issue
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:07] <Mark`> afaik zenoss just uses zope, some python web browser implementation
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:14] <Mark`> so i see no reason why it wouldnt work behind nat
[18-Apr-2008 22:10:49] <DarkFoxDK> aHa!
[18-Apr-2008 22:11:07] <DarkFoxDK> it does work when i use lynx on the host machine
[18-Apr-2008 22:11:46] <Mark`> i do iptables by hand so im not familiar with what to look for in shorewall
[18-Apr-2008 22:12:02] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[18-Apr-2008 22:14:35] <DarkFoxDK> well, i'll go haunt someone who knows something about shorewall then, thanks for the help :-)
[18-Apr-2008 23:11:32] <idea4gud> hi any there in the room
[18-Apr-2008 23:12:00] <idea4gud> any good utility to convert IPv4 to IPv6
[18-Apr-2008 23:12:13] <idea4gud> along with CIDR
[18-Apr-2008 23:42:47] <Mark`> uhm
[18-Apr-2008 23:43:05] <Mark`> what do you mean
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[19-Apr-2008 13:33:13] <waa> I'm trying to checkout the zenoss source code from http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/trunk/inst and I'm getting this erro:
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:18] <waa> svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default'
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:20] <waa> svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 200 OK (http://dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:27] <adytum-bot^> Title: Revision 9044: /trunk/inst (at dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:33:40] <adytum-bot^> Title: Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[19-Apr-2008 13:34:30] <waa> there is a problem in svn?
[19-Apr-2008 15:07:18] <Limt33r> anybody home?
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[19-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <DarkFoxDK> hi, how do i change the hostname of the VMware app?
[19-Apr-2008 20:20:17] <DarkFoxDK> i have tried changing it in /etc/hosts and with the hostname command, but it keeps resetting to localhost
[19-Apr-2008 20:22:26] <Mark`> i guess it would depend on the distribution of linux you are using within vmware
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:06] <DarkFoxDK> i just got the vmware app from zenoss.com
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:40] <Mark`> shrug
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:43] <Mark`> what linux runs in it
[19-Apr-2008 20:23:50] <Mark`> ive never used the vmware image
[19-Apr-2008 20:24:21] <Mark`> Operating system: rPath Linux
[19-Apr-2008 20:24:21] <Mark`> hmm
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:34] <Mark`> so
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:40] <Mark`> your /etc/hosts file keeps reverting back
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:42] <Mark`> or what
[19-Apr-2008 20:25:50] <DarkFoxDK> back, sory
[19-Apr-2008 20:26:56] <DarkFoxDK> no, it stays as it is, but when i use the cmd hostname it returns localhost.localdomain
[19-Apr-2008 20:28:53] <Mark`> what lines to have in your /etc/hosts file
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:10] <Mark`> also hostname is different than /etc/hosts
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:26] <Mark`> you change your hostname with
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:28] <Mark`> hostname newhostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:35] <DarkFoxDK> yes, i did that
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:42] <Mark`> /etc/hosts is just for resolution
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:49] <DarkFoxDK> but after reboot it resets
[19-Apr-2008 20:29:53] <Mark`> well yea
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:03] <Mark`> theres usually a seperate config file for hostname somewhere
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:06] <Mark`> depends on distribution
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:19] <DarkFoxDK> in hosts i have:
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:21] <Mark`> /etc/hostname sometimes, sometimes /etc/conf.d/hostname sometimes /etc/sysconfig/hostname or network
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:32] <DarkFoxDK> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:32] <DarkFoxDK> 127.0.1.1 zenoss zenoss.lzd.dk
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:41] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[19-Apr-2008 20:30:47] <DarkFoxDK> i am used to debian-type systems
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:18] <Mark`> on my redhat boxes its /etc/sysconfig/network
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:24] <Mark`> gentoo boxes its /etc/conf.d/hostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:30] <Mark`> oldschool boxes its /etc/hostname
[19-Apr-2008 20:31:48] <DarkFoxDK> oh, it's /etc/sysconfig/network
[19-Apr-2008 20:32:24] <DarkFoxDK> thanks
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:28] <Mark`> np
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:38] <Mark`> and honestly im a zenoss newb, i have no affiliation with this project at all
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:47] <Mark`> good thing you arent asking any questions about zenoss
[19-Apr-2008 20:33:47] <Mark`> lol
[19-Apr-2008 20:35:11] <DarkFoxDK> heh,
[19-Apr-2008 21:05:35] <DarkFoxDK> hmm, does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss?
[19-Apr-2008 21:06:32] <DarkFoxDK> hmm, does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss?
[19-Apr-2008 21:07:22] <DarkFoxDK> if this chat app would just work.... let's try again: does anyone have experience with configuring zimbra-snmp for zenoss
[19-Apr-2008 21:07:25] <DarkFoxDK> ?
[19-Apr-2008 21:12:59] <DarkFoxDK> oh for... "127.0.1.1 sendto error Host zenoss and zenoss.lzd.dk are both using ip 127.0.1.1"
[19-Apr-2008 21:22:57] <DarkFoxDK> nvm, found a fix
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[20-Apr-2008 17:20:32] <DarkFoxDK> hi, i am trying to make net-snmp send lm_sensors values on Ubuntu, but i can't quite figure it out...
[20-Apr-2008 17:26:35] <Mark`> is your snmpd built with lm_sensors support?
[20-Apr-2008 17:28:18] <DarkFoxDK> well, i just go the one from the repository
[20-Apr-2008 17:28:38] <DarkFoxDK> and did dpkg-reconfigure on it
[20-Apr-2008 17:29:12] <Mark`> in gentoo theres a specific useflag for snmpd with lm_sensors
[20-Apr-2008 17:29:32] <DarkFoxDK> when that didn't work i tried making my own parsing script and added exec lines to the snmpd.conf, but they don't show up when i do snmpwalk
[20-Apr-2008 17:30:20] <Mark`> i dont think it has to be that complicated
[20-Apr-2008 17:30:40] <DarkFoxDK> neither do i
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:00] <DarkFoxDK> but when working with the ubuntu reps.... *sigh*
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:26] <DarkFoxDK> more likw "working against"...
[20-Apr-2008 17:31:29] <DarkFoxDK> like*
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:05] <Mark`> none of my boards use lm_sensors
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:13] <DarkFoxDK> ok
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:14] <Mark`> all of our stuff uses dell openmanage or coretemp
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:18] <Mark`> but
[20-Apr-2008 17:37:23] <Mark`> i can view that stuff too just fine
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:06] <DarkFoxDK> it's probably because i use the rep version of snmp, i think i'll remove it and install it from source instead
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:18] <Mark`> [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/net-snmp-5.4.1-r1 USE="perl python ssl tcpd -X -diskio -doc -elf -ipv6 -lm_sensors -mfd-rewrites -minimal -rpm (-selinux) -sendmail -smux" 0 kB
[20-Apr-2008 17:38:28] <Mark`> *shrug*
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[21-Apr-2008 12:06:08] <mf2ng> hmm
[21-Apr-2008 12:06:18] <mf2ng> alerting rules have an bug
[21-Apr-2008 12:07:03] <mf2ng> i've had three exactly similar rules, every production state event that is at least an error and is new should be paged to me
[21-Apr-2008 12:07:32] <mf2ng> now i get three pages fot every event even i have deleted those testrules
[21-Apr-2008 13:53:40] <xd> a
[21-Apr-2008 13:53:52] <xd> hullo
[21-Apr-2008 14:00:48] <cgibbons> greenthings
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[21-Apr-2008 15:23:09] <garnica> so ... I want to trigger a java program every time I receive "host 10.36.2.xx is down" what can I do ?
[21-Apr-2008 15:57:18] <cgibbons> do you know how to create event mappings yet, garncia?
[21-Apr-2008 15:57:26] <cgibbons> er, garnica
[21-Apr-2008 15:58:21] <garnica> you click on the left of the event and from the tab menu select Add Mapping ....
[21-Apr-2008 15:59:57] <garnica> ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:00:48] <garnica> I've tried the 'Event Manager' inside the 'Commands' tab
[21-Apr-2008 16:02:07] <cgibbons> sec, trying to remember how to do that myself. in any event once you get a mapping setup you can define a command to be executed afterwards.
[21-Apr-2008 16:02:26] <cgibbons> it's python command btu that could easily exec your java command line
[21-Apr-2008 16:03:11] <garnica> ok.ok.... so executed commands are python commands ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:41] <cgibbons> garnica, check this link out: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch10s14.html#d0e3545
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:53] <cgibbons> looks like it can do arbitrary shell commands
[21-Apr-2008 16:21:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 16:22:06] <mrayzenoss> sweet
[21-Apr-2008 16:36:57] <ronan675> Anyone have any idea why I would be getting false host down reports?? A few of our servers are showing ping failures but they are definetely up. I can ping them fine from the command line of the zenoss box
[21-Apr-2008 16:40:12] <garnica> have you ping them from the zenoss server ??
[21-Apr-2008 16:40:56] <ronan675> yes
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:02] <ronan675> It works fine from there
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:07] <garnica> check the status of the zenoss box at the command line: zenoss status
[21-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <garnica> check all the daemons run correctly specially zenping
[21-Apr-2008 16:42:01] <ronan675> It seems to look ok -- Daemon: zenping program running; pid=26007
[21-Apr-2008 16:42:16] <garnica> or try reloading zenping $shell> zenping restart
[21-Apr-2008 16:43:30] <garnica> try with $shell> zenping stop ..... and then $bash> zenping start
[21-Apr-2008 16:43:42] <garnica> or with $shell> zenping run
[21-Apr-2008 16:44:10] <ronan675> hmmm I get command not found when I try to restart zenping from cmd
[21-Apr-2008 16:49:05] <ronan675> Ah nevermind my envirnment paths were not set correctly. I have stopped and started zenping. I will see if that makes any difference
[21-Apr-2008 16:53:57] <ronan675> It looks like zenping wont stay running
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[21-Apr-2008 17:06:09] <ronan675> Restarting zenping does not seem to have cleared those false alerts. Still showing as down. Very strange issue I am running out of ideas
[21-Apr-2008 17:51:50] <magnachef> ronan: did the events not clear, or are they still incrementing their count?
[21-Apr-2008 17:51:55] <magnachef> look at the last alert time
[21-Apr-2008 18:01:39] <garnica> I want to execute a java program depending upon the severity of my events..... say "Critical" I want to execute "java Critical", then for the "Warning"s I want to execute "java Warnings"..
[21-Apr-2008 18:01:44] <garnica> How can I do this ?
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:33] <Mark`> theres probably a way under Event Manager
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:38] <Mark`> under the command tab
[21-Apr-2008 18:02:43] <Mark`> ive never done it myself
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:06] <garnica> yep... I have tried it ! once you add a command with the name you want there is an edit section with text area that says "Command:" apparently this is where you write any command, say bash command, application or java
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <garnica> but it is not.....
[21-Apr-2008 18:10:33] <garnica> it seems to be for you to write a TALES expression.....
[21-Apr-2008 18:11:05] <garnica> I am dealing with these TALES expressions to see if I can launch a java application
[21-Apr-2008 18:39:13] <garnica> ok !! sorry about my last comment !! nothing wrong !! on the command: you write any command like "java javaAP"
[21-Apr-2008 18:39:33] <garnica> and works !!
[21-Apr-2008 18:56:11] <garnica> now.... how can I send an email when a critical event occurs ??
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:22] <Mark`> thats done through/groups and users (i think, i am new to this too)
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:32] <Mark`> i made my partner and i user accounts and added us to a group
[21-Apr-2008 19:06:40] <Mark`> then for our group i clicked 'alerting rules'
[21-Apr-2008 19:37:32] <tcrass> Have a feature question, is there some Zenpack which provides something of a change management system in Zenoss? As in, the ability to manually input, SysAdmin-BLAH performed task X on server Y on day B, approved by SrSysAdmin-BLECH. or anything of that sort. Like even a commenting system which allows you to enter what has happened with what server would also be a huge help and suffice.
[21-Apr-2008 19:50:24] <magnachef> not that I have seen
[21-Apr-2008 19:51:30] <Mark`> theres a commenting system for events i think
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[21-Apr-2008 19:51:57] <magnachef> yeah, there's a Log where you can put notes for events
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:10] <magnachef> but not for the devices themselves
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:24] <Mark`> if you get an alert that a raid controller is failed you can add a note to the log like
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:37] <Mark`> 'swapped drive 3, rma'ing to manufacturer - mark'
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:44] <Mark`> and it sticks with the event in the history
[21-Apr-2008 19:52:44] <Mark`> etc
[21-Apr-2008 19:54:00] <Mark`> theres a little comment field
[21-Apr-2008 19:54:08] <Mark`> under device > edit too
[21-Apr-2008 19:55:08] <Mark`> not enough to really keep a running log though
[21-Apr-2008 20:01:18] <mrayzenoss> tcrass: Not sure we have that functionality yet, feel free to send a request to prodinput@zenoss.com, or straight to me at mray@zenoss.com
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[21-Apr-2008 20:01:32] <mrayzenoss> Quick Start Guide
[21-Apr-2008 20:01:34] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss Version 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:01:36] <mrayzenoss>
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[21-Apr-2008 20:02:16] <mrayzenoss> September 26, 2007
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:18] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:20] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:22] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 2 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:24] <mrayzenoss> Table of Contents
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:26] <mrayzenoss> 1 Overview.......................................................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:29] <mrayzenoss> 1.1 Introduction to Zenoss Core............................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:33] <mrayzenoss> 1.2 Additional Resources.......................................................................................4
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:37] <mrayzenoss> 2 Getting Started.............................................................................................6
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:39] <mrayzenoss> 2.1 Installing Zenoss Core Using RPM Packages..................................................6
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:41] <mrayzenoss> 2.2 Installing Zenoss Core Using Source Code.....................................................7
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:44] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 Installing Zenoss VM Appliance Using VM Player............................................7
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:46] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 Logging On......................................................................................................8
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:48] <mrayzenoss> 3 Defining Your Environment........................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:51] <mrayzenoss> 3.1 Basics Settings................................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:53] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.1 Configure the SMTP Server............................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:02:56] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.2 Configure your SNMP Community Strings....................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:00] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.3 Create Your Windows Administrator Settings.............................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:05] <mrayzenoss> 3.2 Create Your Logical Groupings......................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:06] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.1 Create Your Locations..................................................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:09] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.2 Create Your Systems....................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:13] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.3 Create Your Groups......................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:15] <mrayzenoss> 3.3 Define a Monitored Processes.......................................................................12
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:18] <mrayzenoss> 4 Discovering Your Environment................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:20] <mrayzenoss> 4.1 Add a Device.................................................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:23] <mrayzenoss> 4.2 Add a Network...............................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:26] <mrayzenoss> 4.3 Discover Networks.........................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:29] <mrayzenoss> 5 Monitoring Your Environment..................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:33] <mrayzenoss> 5.1 Viewing Your Managed Resources................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:35] <mrayzenoss> 5.2 Viewing Your Events.....................................................................................16
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:38] <mrayzenoss> 5.3 Viewing Reports............................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:40] <mrayzenoss> 5.4 Custom Monitoring........................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:44] <mrayzenoss> 5.4.1 Adding a Community ZenPack.....................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:47] <mrayzenoss> 6 Managing Your Environment....................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:49] <mrayzenoss> 6.1 Adding Zenoss Users....................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:52] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.1 Adding a Zenoss User...................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:54] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.2 Creating an Alerting Rule..............................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:03:58] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.3 Creating an Alerting Rule Schedule.............................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:03] <mrayzenoss> 7 Notes...........................................................................................................21
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:05] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:07] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:09] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 3 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:11] <mrayzenoss> List of Figures
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:13] <mrayzenoss> Figure 2-1 - Zenoss Login Screen........................................................................................................8
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:17] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-1 Zenoss Settings Tab............................................................................................................9
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:20] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-2 Configuring SNMP Community Strings............................................................................10
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:23] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-3 Adding a New Location......................................................................................................11
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:25] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-4 Defining a Monitored Process...........................................................................................12
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:29] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-1 Adding a Device.................................................................................................................13
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:34] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-2 Adding a Network...............................................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:37] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-3 Discovering Networks........................................................................................................14
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:40] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-1 Zenoss Device List.............................................................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:43] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-2 Device Status page............................................................................................................15
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:46] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-3 Zenoss Event Console......................................................................................................16
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:49] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-4 Zenoss Reports..................................................................................................................17
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:52] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-1 Adding a New User............................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:54] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-2 Configuring a User.............................................................................................................18
[21-Apr-2008 20:04:58] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-3 Creating an Alerting Rule..................................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:02] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-4 Configuring an Alerting Rule.............................................................................................19
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-5 Creating a Rule Window....................................................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:09] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-6 Configuring a Rule Window...............................................................................................20
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:14] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:16] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 4 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:18] <mrayzenoss> 1 Overview
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:19] <mrayzenoss> This purpose of this document is to get you up and running using the Zenoss Core software and
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:22] <mrayzenoss> show you how do perform basic tasks such as:
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:24] <mrayzenoss> ? Installing the Zenoss Core software.
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:26] <mrayzenoss> ? Defining your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:27] <mrayzenoss> ? Discovering devices with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:30] <mrayzenoss> ? Monitoring your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:34] <mrayzenoss> ? Managing your environment with Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:36] <mrayzenoss> 1.1 Introduction to Zenoss Core
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:38] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core ? the most downloaded enterprise open source IT management software product ?
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:40] <mrayzenoss> is an integrated IT monitoring software package that allows IT administrators to manage the
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:42] <mrayzenoss> status and health of their infrastructures through a single, web-based console. Zenoss Core is an
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:44] <mrayzenoss> open source network and systems management software and is the intellectual property of
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:46] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Incorporated, a privately held company headquartered in Annapolis, MD.
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:48] <mrayzenoss> The power of Zenoss Core starts with an in-depth Inventory and Configuration Management
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:50] <mrayzenoss> Database (CMDB) created by discovering managed resources (such as servers, networks, and
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:52] <mrayzenoss> other infrastructure devices) in your IT environment. The Zenoss-created model of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:54] <mrayzenoss> environment provides a complete inventory of the key systems down to the resource component
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:56] <mrayzenoss> level (interfaces, services and process, installed software etc.) With the model built, you can
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:58] <mrayzenoss> begin monitoring and reporting on all aspects of the IT infrastructure using the Zenoss Core?s
[21-Apr-2008 20:05:59] <mrayzenoss> integrated availability and performance monitoring capabilities. Zenoss also provides an events
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:04] <mrayzenoss> and fault management system that ties in to the CMDB to help drive operational efficiency and
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:06] <mrayzenoss> productivity by automating many of the notification, alerting, escalation and remediation tasks
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:08] <mrayzenoss> performed by everyday IT Operational staff.
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:09] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:12] <mrayzenoss> 1.2 Additional Resources
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:14] <mrayzenoss> If you need additional help, or have some troubleshooting questions, see the Zenoss website for:
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:16] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Installation Instructions
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:17] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:20] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Admin Guide and other documents
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:22] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:23] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Wiki
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:26] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:28] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss FAQ
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:30] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:31] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install Guides - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:34] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Users Mailing Lists
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:36] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/lists
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:38] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss User Forum
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:40] <mrayzenoss> o http://community.zenoss.com/forums/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:42] <mrayzenoss> ? Zenoss Blog
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://blog.zenoss.com/
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:46] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:48] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:50] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 5 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:52] <mrayzenoss> If you have comments or questions about this document, please direct them to:
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:54] <mrayzenoss> feedback@zenoss.com
[21-Apr-2008 20:06:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Documentation - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
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[21-Apr-2008 20:07:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:02] <magnachef> ahhhh, make it stop!
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:03] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:06] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 6 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:08] <mrayzenoss> 2 Getting Started
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:10] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be downloaded via the Zenoss website:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:12] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/download
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:14] <mrayzenoss> Or from the Zenoss Sourceforge project web page:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:16] <mrayzenoss> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:18] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:19] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be run on most LINUX and UNIX based platforms; however, we recommend
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Wiki - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:22] <mrayzenoss> installing Zenoss Core on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) platform or any RHEL derivative
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:24] <mrayzenoss> platform (e.g. Centos or Fedora).
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:25] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is also available as a virtual appliance that can be installed on Windows and Linux
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:27] <mrayzenoss> platforms using a VMware Player or VMware Server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:29] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is a monitoring solution that can be accessed via a web browser. Supported web
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:34] <mrayzenoss> browsers are Firefox and Internet Explorer 7. Zenoss Core partially supports Safari and Opera
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:36] <mrayzenoss> web browsers.
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:38] <mrayzenoss> 2.1 Installing Zenoss Core Using RPM Packages
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:39] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - FAQs - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:40] <mrayzenoss> Please access Zenoss Core RPM installation instructions for the following platforms:
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:42] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for RHEL 4/Centos 4 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-centos/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:46] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for RHEL 5/Centos 5 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:46] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Lists - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:48] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-redhat-
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:49] <mrayzenoss> enterprise-linux/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:52] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Fedora 6
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:54] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-fedora-core-6/
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:55] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 (SLES 10)
[21-Apr-2008 20:07:58] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-zenoss-on-suse-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:00] <mrayzenoss> enterprise-linux-10/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: Index (at community.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:03] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:05] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:08] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:10] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 7 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:12] <mrayzenoss> 2.2 Installing Zenoss Core Using Source Code
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:14] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core can be built and installed on Linux and UNIX based platforms using the source
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:15] <mrayzenoss> code. The Zenoss Core source code can be downloaded either from the source tar ball or via
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:18] <mrayzenoss> Subversion.
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:20] <mrayzenoss> Generic source code installation instructions can be accessed at the link below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:22] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-from-source/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:23] <mrayzenoss> Below is specific installation or prerequisite configuration instructions for Zenoss Core source
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:25] <mrayzenoss> code installation for the following platforms:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:27] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Ubuntu 6.10 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:29] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-zenoss-on-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:34] <mrayzenoss> ubuntu/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:36] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for Ubuntu 7 (Feisty Fawn) Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:38] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/installing-zenoss-on-
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:40] <mrayzenoss> ubuntu-7-04-feisty-fawn/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:41] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for FreeBSD 6.1 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:44] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-1/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:46] <mrayzenoss> ? Installation instructions for FreeBSD 6.1 Platforms
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:48] <mrayzenoss> o http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-freebsd-6.2-1/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:50] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:51] <mrayzenoss> 2.3 Installing Zenoss VM Appliance Using VM Player
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:54] <mrayzenoss> A free VMware Player can be downloaded at the VMware site below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:56] <mrayzenoss> http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:58] <mrayzenoss> A typical host system used for a VMware installation should have the following specifications:
[21-Apr-2008 20:08:59] <mrayzenoss> ? Processor: 500MHz or greater
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:04] <mrayzenoss> ? RAM: 512 MB RAM or greater
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:06] <mrayzenoss> To effectively run a Zenoss VM Appliance (or any guest operating system), the host server must
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:08] <mrayzenoss> have enough resource to allocate a minimum of 256MB RAM and 1GB disk space to the Zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:09] <mrayzenoss> Core Virtual Appliance image. The VMware Player software requires approximately 150 MB of
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:11] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Which Zenoss is right for you? - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:12] <mrayzenoss> disk space to install the application.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:14] <mrayzenoss> Once the VMware Player is installed on the host server, download the Zenoss VMware Appliance
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:16] <mrayzenoss> image onto the host server as well. The VMware image is packages as a Zip (*.zip) file. Unzip the
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:18] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss VM Appliance into the appropriate folder according to the VMware Player instructions. At
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <mrayzenoss> the VMware Player Console, navigate to the VM images folder and load the Zenoss VM
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:22] <mrayzenoss> Appliance image.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:23] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:25] <mrayzenoss> When prompted for a local host login, enter ?root? to gain access to the Zenoss Appliance
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:27] <mrayzenoss> command line
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:30] <mrayzenoss> Local host login: root
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:33] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:36] <mrayzenoss> The Zenoss VM Appliance is configured for DHCP addressing by default. If your network is not
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:38] <mrayzenoss> configured for DHCP, assign a static IP address to the server and verify that the server can
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:40] <mrayzenoss> communicate with your network.
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:44] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 8 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:48] <mrayzenoss> Verify the IP Address of the Zenoss VM Appliance server
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:50] <mrayzenoss> zenossserver ~#ifconfig
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:51] <mrayzenoss> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:56:A9:73:4B
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:53] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring (at sourceforge.net)
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:54] <mrayzenoss> inet addr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Bcast:xxx.xxx.xxx.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:56] <mrayzenoss> inet6 addr: fe80::250:56ff:fea9:734b/64 Scope:Link
[21-Apr-2008 20:09:58] <mrayzenoss> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:00] <mrayzenoss> RX packets:26819795 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install on Fedora Core 6 - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:04] <mrayzenoss> TX packets:26720599 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:04] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install from Source - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Download VMware Player, Free VMware - VMware (at www.vmware.com)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:06] <mrayzenoss> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:08] <mrayzenoss> RX bytes:395109646 (376.8 MiB) TX bytes:2753868547 (2.5 GiB)
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:10] <mrayzenoss> Interrupt:177 Base address:0x1400
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:14] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 Logging On
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:16] <mrayzenoss> At a web browser access the Zenoss web UI via the URL below:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:18] <mrayzenoss> http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:20] <mrayzenoss> The IP address used should be that of the server that the Zenoss Core software is installed upon.
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:22] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss VM Appliances, the IP address used should be that of the Zenoss VM Appliance (and
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:24] <mrayzenoss> not of the host server).
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:27] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:29] <mrayzenoss> Figure 2-1 - Zenoss Login Screen
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:34] <mrayzenoss> When the login prompt of the web UI appears, log in as:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:35] <mrayzenoss> User: admin
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:37] <mrayzenoss> Password: zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:40] <mrayzenoss> and Click ?Submit?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:42] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:10:45] <mrayzenoss> 3 Defining Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:47] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Core is a complete enterprise monitoring solution and provides you with the tools to
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:50] <mrayzenoss> effectively manage and monitor your IT infrastructure. Since no two environments are the same,
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:52] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss enables you to define your environment any way you choose. Here are a few things you
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:54] <mrayzenoss> should define or configure to get you started:
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:56] <mrayzenoss> 3.1 Basics Settings
[21-Apr-2008 20:10:58] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.1 Configure the SMTP Server
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:00] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while setting up your SMTP server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:04] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Settings.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:05] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Settings tab, set the ?SMTP Host? field for your preferred SMTP server.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:08] <mrayzenoss> 3. Set the ?SMTP User? and ?SMTP Password? fields (if necessary for the SMTP server you
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:10] <mrayzenoss> want to use).
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:11] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?Save? button.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:13] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:16] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:18] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-1 Zenoss Settings Tab
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:20] <mrayzenoss> Note: The default setting for this parameter is ?localhost? which is an internal SMTP server. The
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:22] <mrayzenoss> Settings tab can be also be used to configure other system settings such as your preferred SNPP
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:24] <mrayzenoss> Host.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:26] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.2 Configure your SNMP Community Strings
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:28] <mrayzenoss> SNMP Community Strings can be configured at the ?zSnmpCommunity? parameter of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:30] <mrayzenoss> ZProperties tab. This can be configured at any level of the device object tree. For instance the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:33] <mrayzenoss> ?ZSnmpCommunity? field can be configured at the ZProperties tab of a Device Class or at that of
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:35] <mrayzenoss> an individual device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:38] <mrayzenoss> For automated discovery of devices, Zenoss provides an advantage in configuring a list of valid
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:40] <mrayzenoss> community string that is valid in your environment where by Zenoss can use this list during the
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:42] <mrayzenoss> network discovery and modeling of your entire environment.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:44] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while setting up your SNMP community list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:45] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Devices .
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:47] <mrayzenoss> 2. Navigate to the zProperties Tab on the Devices Class page.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:49] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add any applicable SNMP strings to the ?ZSnmpCommunities? text area.
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:51] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:54] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:56] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 10 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:11:57] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:00] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-2 Configuring SNMP Community Strings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:05] <cgibbons> hurm
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:06] <mrayzenoss> Note: Modifying the ?zSnmpCommunities? parameter can be done at any level of the device tree
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:07] <mrayzenoss> and this would override parameters inherited from the parent device class.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:10] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:12] <mrayzenoss> 3.1.3 Create Your Windows Administrator Settings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:14] <mrayzenoss> For Zenoss to access and leverage the Windows WMI framework, your Zenoss server must have
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:16] <mrayzenoss> Administrator level access to your Windows devices.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:18] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while configuring Windows Administrator settings:
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:20] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Devices.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:22] <mrayzenoss> 2. Drill down to the Server link, and the Windows link to open to the Windows device class
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <mrayzenoss> page.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:26] <mrayzenoss> 3. From the Windows Class page, click the zProperties Tab.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:27] <mrayzenoss> 4. At the zProperties tab, set the ?zWinUser? field (default: Adminsitrator)
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:29] <mrayzenoss> 5. Also set the ?zWinPassword? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:33] <mrayzenoss> Note: Modifying the ?zWinUser? and ?ZWinPassword? parameters can be done at any level of the
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:36] <mrayzenoss> device tree and this would override parameters inherited from the parent device class.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:39] <mrayzenoss> 3.2 Create Your Logical Groupings
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:42] <mrayzenoss> You can configure logical groupings to manage the different views of your environment that you
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:44] <mrayzenoss> wish to see. The types of logical groupings you create are entirely up to you, and it?s best that the
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:46] <mrayzenoss> groups and sub groups you create make sense to your IT organization.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:48] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.1 Create Your Locations
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:49] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while you create a Locations group or sub-group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:51] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Locations.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:53] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click on the drop-down table-menu of the Sub-Locations table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:56] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:12:57] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
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[21-Apr-2008 20:13:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-3 Adding a New Location
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:07] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:10] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Location.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:12] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub-locations under existing Locations groupings as well.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:14] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.2 Create Your Systems
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:15] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while you create a Locations group or sub-group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:17] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Systems .
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:20] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table-menu of the Sub-Systems table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:22] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:24] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:25] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Systems grouping.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:28] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub-locations under existing Systems groupings as well.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:30] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:34] <mrayzenoss> 3.2.3 Create Your Groups
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:36] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow while creating a Locations group or sub group.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:38] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Groups.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:39] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table-menu from the Sub-Groups table and select ?Add New
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:41] <mrayzenoss> Organizer?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:44] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new location to the ?ID? field
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:46] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new Groups grouping.
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:48] <mrayzenoss> These steps can be used to create sub locations under existing Groups groupings as well..
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:49] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:52] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 12 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:54] <mrayzenoss> 3.3 Define a Monitored Processes
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:56] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss allows you to define the processes you want to monitor across your network. During the
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <magnachef> DGitz: you may have to wait until this is all done
[21-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <mrayzenoss> modeling process, Zenoss checks your list of defined processes against processes running on
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:00] <mrayzenoss> the managed resources, and automatically models and monitors the matched processes on your
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:03] <mrayzenoss> devices. Below are basic steps to follow to define a process you want to monitor in Zenoss.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:06] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, click Processes.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:08] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the drop-down table-menu of the Processes table, select ?Add Process?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:10] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:12] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:14] <mrayzenoss> Figure 3-4 Defining a Monitored Process
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:15] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new process identifier to the ?ID? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:18] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new network address.\
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:19] <mrayzenoss> Note: Regular Expressions can be applied to define the process identifier and zenoss would
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:22] <mrayzenoss> model successful matches accordingly.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:28] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <magnachef> mrayzenoss: Can you please jump out of the room please?
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:29] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 13 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:33] <mrayzenoss> 4 Discovering Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:35] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:38] <mrayzenoss> 4.1 Add a Device
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:40] <mrayzenoss> Devices to be monitored can be added to the Zenoss System individually. Below are basic steps
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:42] <mrayzenoss> to follow while modeling a device via SNMP.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:44] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Add a Device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:46] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Add a Device page, in the ?Device Name? field, enter a qualified domain name
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:47] <cgibbons> let me ping him via IM real quick
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:48] <mrayzenoss> or IP address for the device to be modeled and monitored.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:50] <mrayzenoss> 3. Set the ?SNMP Community? field (if necessary).
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:51] <mrayzenoss> 4. From the ?Device Class Path? dropdown menu, select the device class to be associated
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:54] <mrayzenoss> with the device to be modeled and monitored.
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:55] <mrayzenoss> 5. Select any applicable parameters from the ?Location Path? field, ?Systems? field, and
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:58] <mrayzenoss> ?Groups? field (if you have previously defined any logical groupings).
[21-Apr-2008 20:14:59] <mrayzenoss> 6. Click the ?Add device? button to auto-discover and model the device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:06] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-1 Adding a Device
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:07] <mrayzenoss> Once the modeling process is complete, you can navigate to the device via the device link.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:10] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:12] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 14 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:14] <mrayzenoss> 4.2 Add a Network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:16] <mrayzenoss> You can add Networks to the Zenoss System individually. Below are basic steps to follow while
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:16] <DGitz42> Close the gates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:18] <mrayzenoss> adding a network.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:20] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigational menu, select Networks.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:22] <mrayzenoss> 2. From the Overview tab, click the drop-down table menu from the Subnetworks table
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:24] <mrayzenoss> and select ?Add Network?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:28] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:29] <DGitz42> Arggggggggghhhhhhh
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:30] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-2 Adding a Network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:34] <mrayzenoss> 3. Add the new network and subnet mask to the ?ID? field using the CIDR format (For
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:36] <mrayzenoss> example, enter 192.168.1.0/24).
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:38] <mrayzenoss> 4. Click the ?OK button to save the new network address.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:40] <mrayzenoss> Note: These steps can be used to add sub networks at any level of the network tree.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:43] <magnachef> I tried to kick him, but I'm not an OP
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:44] <mrayzenoss> 4.3 Discover Networks
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:46] <mrayzenoss> You can use Zenoss to discover and perform basic modeling functions on devices available on
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:47] <mrayzenoss> networks in the Zenoss system. Below are basic steps to follow while performing a network
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:49] <mrayzenoss> discovery.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Networks.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:53] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the drop-down table menu for the Sub-networks table and select ?Discover
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:55] <mrayzenoss> Devices?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:15:58] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:00] <mrayzenoss> Figure 4-3 Discovering Networks
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:04] <mrayzenoss> Note: These steps can be used to discover devices on sub-networks at any level of the network
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:04] <DGitz42> this is an outrage...
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:06] <mrayzenoss> tree.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:08] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:10] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 15 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:12] <mrayzenoss> 5 Monitoring Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:14] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:15] <mrayzenoss> 5.1 Viewing Your Managed Resources
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:17] <mrayzenoss> With Zenoss Core, you can navigate to your managed resources using various links throughout
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:18] <DGitz42> the king must die !!!!
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:20] <mrayzenoss> the system. The easiest way to get to a device is via the Device List link from the left navigation
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:22] <mrayzenoss> menu. The Device List table provides a full list of the devices in your infrastructure (discovered or
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:23] <mrayzenoss> added) within the Zenoss Core system and some basic information about them.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:26] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:28] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-1 Zenoss Device List
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:30] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:34] <mrayzenoss> Clicking a device name in the Device Id column will take you to the Status page for the device
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:36] <mrayzenoss> selected.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:38] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:40] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-2 Device Status page
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:42] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:44] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 16 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:46] <mrayzenoss> You can also perform a quick search for a device using the Device/IP Search field located in the
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:48] <mrayzenoss> top right corner of the Zenoss window.
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:50] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:52] <mrayzenoss> 5.2 Viewing Your Events
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:54] <mrayzenoss> You can also view events occurring in the IT environment by navigating to the Zenoss Event
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:55] <cgibbons> well, only 5 more pages to go
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:56] <mrayzenoss> Console. To open the Event Console, from the left navigation menu, click Events Console
[21-Apr-2008 20:16:58] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:03] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-3 Zenoss Event Console
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:06] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:07] <mrayzenoss> The Event Console provides a list of active events occurring within an IT infrastructure. You can
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:09] <mrayzenoss> use the Zenoss Event Management Console to:
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:12] <mrayzenoss> ? drill in and view details of events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:14] <mrayzenoss> ? acknowledge events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:16] <mrayzenoss> ? configure basic and advanced notification policies
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:18] <mrayzenoss> ? update event troubleshooting logs
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:20] <mrayzenoss> ? classify and correlate events
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:21] <mrayzenoss> ? archive events into a historical database
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:25] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:28] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 17 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:30] <mrayzenoss> 5.3 Viewing Reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:34] <mrayzenoss> You can also use Zenoss to generate predefined and custom reports by clicking Reports from
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:36] <mrayzenoss> the left navigation menu. Zenoss pre-defined reports provide users with industry standard reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:38] <mrayzenoss> to measure network health statistics and SLAs across their environment.
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:40] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:44] <mrayzenoss> Figure 5-4 Zenoss Reports
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:45] <mrayzenoss> 5.4 Custom Monitoring
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:48] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss is capable of performing custom collections ?ZenCommand? feature leveraging multiple
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:49] <mrayzenoss> protocols such as SSH and XML-RPC. You can perform custom monitoring by executing custom
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:51] <mrayzenoss> scripts locally on the Zenoss box as well as executing custom reports remotely on a target device.
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:53] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss can also Zenoss plugins ZenPacks) as well as external plugins to perform custom
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:56] <mrayzenoss> collections for your monitoring needs. For more details, please see the Zenoss Administrator
[21-Apr-2008 20:17:58] <mrayzenoss> Guide.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:04] <mrayzenoss> 5.4.1 Adding a Community ZenPack
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:06] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss certified community ZenPacks are available for custom monitoring on Zenoss Core.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:08] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to install a community ZenPack on your Zenoss instance. In this
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:10] <mrayzenoss> exercise, we will describe the steps in adding the HTTPMonitor community ZenPack
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:12] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the server where you are running your Zenoss instance, download the HttpMonitor
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:14] <mrayzenoss> ZenPack from:
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:16] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/download/zenpacks/HttpMonitor.zip
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:18] <mrayzenoss> 2. On the Zenoss server, navigate to the folder where you downloaded the zenpack.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:20] <mrayzenoss> 3. While logged into the server as the zenoss user, execute the command below to install
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:22] <mrayzenoss> the Zenpack. (Note that the xxx is used as the filename in this example.)
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:24] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:26] <mrayzenoss> zenossserver ~# zenpack run ?install HttpMonitor.zip
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:27] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:30] <mrayzenoss> 4. To create some data sources for custom monitoring, please refer to the Zenoss
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:34] <mrayzenoss> Administration Guide.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:36] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:38] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 18 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:39] <mrayzenoss> 6 Managing Your Environment
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:42] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:43] <mrayzenoss> 6.1 Adding Zenoss Users
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:45] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss allows you to create user accounts and define their roles within the Zenoss system.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:47] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss also performs change tracking functions and you can define advanced notification and
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:50] <mrayzenoss> alerting rules for users.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:52] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.1 Adding a Zenoss User
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:54] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to create a new user in the Zenoss system.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:56] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the left navigation menu, select Settings.
[21-Apr-2008 20:18:58] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the Users tab to show the User Folder list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:00] <mrayzenoss> 3. Click the drop-down table menu of the User Folder, and select ?Add New User?.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:04] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:06] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:08] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-1 Adding a New User
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:09] <mrayzenoss> 4. In the ?Username? field, enter a new user name, and add the user?s email address to the
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:11] <mrayzenoss> ?Email? field.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:14] <mrayzenoss> 5. Click the ?OK button to save the new user profile.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:16] <mrayzenoss> 6. From the User Folder table, click the user link at the ?UserId? column for additional
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:18] <mrayzenoss> configuration.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:20] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:22] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-2 Configuring a User
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:23] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:26] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 19 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:28] <mrayzenoss> 7. From the Edit tab, in the ?Password? fields, enter a password (twice)for this user to use
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:29] <mrayzenoss> user password.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:34] <mrayzenoss> 8. From the the ?Roles? selection box, select the role for this user.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:36] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:38] <mrayzenoss> Note: User names should be in all lowercase and not contain any spaces..
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:40] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:42] <mrayzenoss> 6.1.2 Creating an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:44] <mrayzenoss> Below are basic steps to follow to create an alerting rule for a user within Zenoss.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:46] <mrayzenoss> 1. From the User Folder table, click the user link at the ?UserId? column that you want to
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:48] <mrayzenoss> configure
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:49] <mrayzenoss> 2. Click the Alerting Rules tab to show the Alerting Rules list.
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:52] <mrayzenoss> 3. Click the drop-down table menu for the Alerting Rules table and select ?Add New User.?
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:54] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:56] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:19:58] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-3 Creating an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:00] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:04] <mrayzenoss> 4. In the ?ID? field, enter a name for the new rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:06] <mrayzenoss> 5. Click the ?OK button to save the new alerting rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:08] <mrayzenoss> 6. From the Alerting Rule table, click the name of the rule you just created to add additional
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:09] <mrayzenoss> information and definition to this rule.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:11] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:14] <mrayzenoss>
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:16] <mrayzenoss> Figure 6-4 Configuring an Alerting Rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:18] <mrayzenoss> 7. From the Edit tab, change the ?Enabled? drop down menu to True.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:20] <mrayzenoss> 8. Select the mode of notification for this rule from the ?Action? drop down menu (email or
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:22] <mrayzenoss> page).
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:24] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss Quick Start Guide 2.0
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:25] <mrayzenoss> 9/26/07 Copyright 2007 Zenoss Inc. 20 of 21
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:28] <mrayzenoss> 9. Modify or add to the ?Where? drop down menus to create a filter for the notifications to be
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:30] <mrayzenoss> sent to the user. The default conditions of this where clause send an alert any time an
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:33] <mrayzenoss> event of severity greater than error is generated from the system. You can make this rule
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:36] <mrayzenoss> as broad or as narrow as necessary using the Where clauses defined here.
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:40] <cgibbons> almost done
[21-Apr-2008 20:20:52] <cgibbons> yay
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:09] <magnachef> woohoo!
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:10] <mrayzenoss> I am so sorry
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:11] <cgibbons> matt, the spammer
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:23] <cgibbons> at least it made me read the manual for the first time
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:35] <magnachef> speed reading it ;-)
[21-Apr-2008 20:21:55] <magnachef> no worries...
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:09] <DGitz42> I didn't get to ask my question because of hte flood..
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:17] <DGitz42> is time to go home for me
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:19] <magnachef> ask away
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:33] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:47] <DGitz42> I will do it tomorrow..no time left
[21-Apr-2008 20:23:59] <magnachef> we'll be here tomorrow
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:09] <DGitz42> thanks
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:25] <mrayzenoss> send me an email about it at mray@zenoss.com and I'll get back to you
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:32] <mrayzenoss> DGitz42: that was for you
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:35] <mrayzenoss> sorry again
[21-Apr-2008 20:24:39] * mrayzenoss face is red
[21-Apr-2008 20:57:51] <garnica> so the main programming base of zenoss is python ?
[21-Apr-2008 20:59:58] <magnachef> yes
[21-Apr-2008 21:00:06] <magnachef> and they use Zope as their framework
[21-Apr-2008 21:04:13] <garnica> ok... so if I would like to customize a portlet for example, I should dive inside the code and understand it to latter modify it .....
[21-Apr-2008 21:15:13] <magnachef> yeah, you need to do it through the Zope framework
[21-Apr-2008 21:15:27] <magnachef> so there are ways to get in there and make the changes
[21-Apr-2008 21:45:26] <wmirc> sudo crontab mangachef
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[22-Apr-2008 11:58:25] <DGitz42> .
[22-Apr-2008 11:58:47] <b52laptop> ..
[22-Apr-2008 12:15:31] <pablo26> hi all
[22-Apr-2008 12:17:18] <pablo26> since i installed zenoss 2.1.3 i have an error: zenperfsmnp heartbeat failure, i think zenperfsnmp is working i still have performance graphs of everything, how do i clear this?
[22-Apr-2008 12:20:45] <nemo__> eventmanager->clear heart eats
[22-Apr-2008 12:20:48] <nemo__> beats*
[22-Apr-2008 12:30:43] <pablo26> thanks!
[22-Apr-2008 12:32:51] <DGitz42> Hello guys, I am trying Zenoss for a large Enterprise and I am currently trying to test it on our Pre-production lab
[22-Apr-2008 12:33:22] <DGitz42> I am fairly new to snmp and I have a long way to go
[22-Apr-2008 12:33:47] <DGitz42> Currently I am running the VMware applaince ver 2.0.91
[22-Apr-2008 12:35:33] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows Server in the PERF tab, I have boxes of Perf monitors, some working some don't
[22-Apr-2008 12:36:55] <DGitz42> but also added a zenpack from James C Dastrup WMI PerfoMon and they work really nice..
[22-Apr-2008 12:37:09] <DGitz42> how do I get rid of the one installed by default?
[22-Apr-2008 12:50:04] <pablo26> DGitz42 did u install snmp-informant on the windows servers?
[22-Apr-2008 12:53:48] <DGitz42> Does it have to be installed in all of the servers?
[22-Apr-2008 12:54:39] <DGitz42> is that the SNMP Informant standard?
[22-Apr-2008 12:59:30] <DGitz42> yes it is installed..
[22-Apr-2008 13:03:19] <DGitz42> Do I have to install the MIB of snmp-informant into Zenoss
[22-Apr-2008 13:09:54] <DGitz42> goshh...I could hear myself breath inhere..
[22-Apr-2008 13:13:23] <pablo26> no DGitz42 zenoss template is for snmp-informant
[22-Apr-2008 13:13:49] <DGitz42> explain yourself, please
[22-Apr-2008 13:15:17] <pablo26> bye default the mib used by zenoss works perfect with snmp-informant
[22-Apr-2008 13:15:42] <DGitz42> How do I get rid of the original perfmon boxes?
[22-Apr-2008 13:16:02] <DGitz42> rather...stat graphs...
[22-Apr-2008 13:16:55] <DGitz42> Pablo eres un user or tech support?
[22-Apr-2008 13:19:24] <pablo26> just a user DGitz42
[22-Apr-2008 13:21:13] <DGitz42> Pablo, I had added a mib for one of my Cisco switches, it is the one to write configurations to it remotely, ok....so now that my MIB is succesfully installed, what is the next step.....can you help?
[22-Apr-2008 13:21:42] <pablo26> to add a windows server, just configure snmp (community name and allowed ips), install snmp-informant and on zenoos choose the device class /server/windows
[22-Apr-2008 13:22:12] <DGitz42> All of that has been done..
[22-Apr-2008 13:22:52] <DGitz42> and I am able to collect tond of info..
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:28] <DGitz42> my servers are located on the class server/windows, is that what you menat/
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:34] <DGitz42> my servers are located on the class server/windows, is that what you meant?
[22-Apr-2008 13:24:49] <pablo26> yes DGitz42
[22-Apr-2008 13:26:08] <pablo26> that should be enought to collect performance graphs like cpu, memory and disk
[22-Apr-2008 13:27:18] <DGitz42> do you have any input on the cisco mib question...after I installed the Mib I quite dio not understand what to do next..
[22-Apr-2008 13:28:21] <pablo26> i just added a couple of counters in my routers but not very much
[22-Apr-2008 13:30:46] <DGitz42> I see..
[22-Apr-2008 13:31:02] <DGitz42> What are you using Zenoss mainly for?
[22-Apr-2008 13:33:29] <pablo26> i use it as a monitoring, but just internal i cant move it to proudction because of the lack of dependencies
[22-Apr-2008 13:38:00] <DGitz42> yeah, that could be a problem for me too..
[22-Apr-2008 13:38:31] <DGitz42> the thing also is that you have to get familiar with Python...
[22-Apr-2008 13:40:29] <pablo26> no, i'm not and i was able to set up everything
[22-Apr-2008 13:44:28] <DGitz42> What can you tell me about this error: Wmi communication failure during connect
[22-Apr-2008 13:45:46] <pablo26> on zproperties of the device or the device class u can tell it to ignore wmi errors if u dont plan to use it
[22-Apr-2008 13:47:36] <DGitz42> I was planing to use it, as it has lots of collectable info..
[22-Apr-2008 13:48:53] <pablo26> ok, so at the same place u need to set up username and password
[22-Apr-2008 13:50:10] <DGitz42> I just did...I am waiting a few minutes to see if that the issue..
[22-Apr-2008 13:50:28] <DGitz42> Could you help me setup an oids?
[22-Apr-2008 13:56:18] <pablo26> there is a guide somewhere
[22-Apr-2008 13:57:46] <DGitz42> I just don't quite understand the sequence of event to set them up..
[22-Apr-2008 13:58:14] <DGitz42> I just started to learn SNMP this week...I am a total newbie
[22-Apr-2008 13:58:38] <pablo26> that was the most complicated part for me
[22-Apr-2008 14:11:19] <jp10558> Does anyone know if you can have graphs actually be just the points passed?
[22-Apr-2008 14:11:35] <jp10558> it seems to take a value of, say, 3 and then put in 2.67...
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:45] <DGitz42> \its pretty lonely here..
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:52] <nemo__> where?
[22-Apr-2008 14:12:56] <nemo__> non snmp land?
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:02] <nemo__> google will be your friend ;p
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:03] <DGitz42> I have been waiting for some help myself
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:11] <adytum-bot> http://gettherhythm.com/c/coco_lee/i_will_be_your_friend.html
[22-Apr-2008 14:13:30] <DGitz42> I think I heard that before...recently
[22-Apr-2008 14:14:46] <garnica> what's up people !
[22-Apr-2008 14:15:40] <DGitz42> Zup!!!
[22-Apr-2008 14:18:21] <garnica> When I go to the 'Event Console' there is a button 'Start' and next to it '60' what is that for ?
[22-Apr-2008 14:18:36] <nemo__> ajax reload
[22-Apr-2008 14:21:37] <garnica> ok.... meaning ?
[22-Apr-2008 14:23:11] <nemo__> read the manual if your not happy my responses
[22-Apr-2008 14:25:44] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows servers I get : Wmi communication failure during connect, it communicates fine with others..
[22-Apr-2008 14:29:53] <DGitz42> ackward..!!
[22-Apr-2008 14:44:44] <Bulwinkle> garnica: start means start reloading the event page automatically, the 60 is the seconds to wait before each reload
[22-Apr-2008 14:44:44] <Bulwinkle>
[22-Apr-2008 14:45:16] <garnica> thanks ! simple !
[22-Apr-2008 14:46:07] <Bulwinkle> garnica: althoug the manual is a really great starting place
[22-Apr-2008 14:49:46] <garnica> there is an auto-recovery feature in Zenoss, when you run it, what is it really doing ?? is it ping ?? is it snmp request ?? is it telnet or ssh ??
[22-Apr-2008 14:51:02] <nemo__> teehee Bulwinkle , you not gonna answer this one?
[22-Apr-2008 14:51:12] <nemo__> RTFM all the way, foot to the floor
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:03] <Bulwinkle> garnica: what version
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:24] <garnica> Zenoss 2.1.3
[22-Apr-2008 14:53:32] <garnica> maybe nmap .....
[22-Apr-2008 14:54:31] <DGitz42> in one of my Windows servers I get : Wmi communication failure during connect, it communicates fine with others..
[22-Apr-2008 14:54:47] <Bulwinkle> DGitz42: that happens sometimes
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:13] <DGitz42> thanks
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:34] <Bulwinkle> garnica: I don't see auto-recovery anywhere in the manual
[22-Apr-2008 14:55:47] <DGitz42> I had added a mib for one of my Cisco switches, it is the one to write configurations to it remotely, ok....so now that my MIB is succesfully installed, what is the next step.....can you help?
[22-Apr-2008 14:56:16] <DGitz42> I am confused as I do not know what the next logical srep is..
[22-Apr-2008 14:56:21] <DGitz42> I am confused as I do not know what the next logical step is..
[22-Apr-2008 14:57:43] <garnica> Bulwinkle: it is on the "Zenoss Admin Guide" Chapter 9 Page 47
[22-Apr-2008 14:58:10] <Bulwinkle> garnica: read it.... does it not answer your question?
[22-Apr-2008 14:59:13] <DGitz42> let me check it out again..
[22-Apr-2008 15:00:23] <garnica> Bulwinkle: it is not so simple to me.... why to have a zenping command instead of the common ping command ??
[22-Apr-2008 15:00:56] <Bulwinkle> garnica: because zenping is a ping that zenoss uses....
[22-Apr-2008 15:02:01] <Bulwinkle> garnica: btw it is auto-Discovery not auto-Recovery....
[22-Apr-2008 15:02:05] <Bulwinkle> zees
[22-Apr-2008 15:03:40] <Bulwinkle> I've got a general comment/suggestion to make. If you have trouble understanding the manual, maybe ZenOSS isn't for you. If you're looking for something to run without any effort in making it work for you, ZenOSS isn't for you. Just my opinion
[22-Apr-2008 16:34:54] <leitgebj> Hi folks. Does anyone know if it is a bad idea to use snmp over the internet? It seems like snmp3 should be reasonably secure, but I don't know if the queries that zenoss makes are going to consume too much bandwidth. Ideas?
[22-Apr-2008 16:35:18] <leitgebj> We have machines in two different colocation centers, and I would like to only have one zenoss instance on a dedicated machine if possible.
[22-Apr-2008 17:48:27] <magnachef> SNMP traffic will not use up that much bandwidth
[22-Apr-2008 17:49:27] <magnachef> ...and I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, if it's the only way that you can do it. I'd try to get a VPN setup, or some other type of secured link between sites
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:40] <Mark`> i just use v2
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:44] <Mark`> and i use it across the internet
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:51] <Mark`> nothing super critical going on the wire
[22-Apr-2008 17:52:58] <Mark`> and everything is ip restricted and read only
[22-Apr-2008 17:53:54] <Exeetimg> What version of SNMP would be the one used in Zproperties....?
[22-Apr-2008 17:59:41] <magnachef> what version would be used for using v2?
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:13] <Mark`> v2 is version 2
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:31] <Mark`> anyway zenoss doesnt support v3 yet completely
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:32] <Mark`> afaik
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:35] <Exeetimg> There are 3 versions as we know, my question which one to use that backwards compatibility?
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:39] <Exeetimg> that is all
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:43] <Mark`> and a lot of the crap i have to monitor
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:46] <Mark`> only supports v2
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:55] <Mark`> so i just use v2 and write careful firewall rules
[22-Apr-2008 18:00:56] <Exeetimg> I see
[22-Apr-2008 18:01:20] <Mark`> i have snmp only listen on specific interfaces, use a different community name than public
[22-Apr-2008 18:01:29] <Mark`> restrict by ip address to the zenoss server
[22-Apr-2008 18:09:23] <cgibbons> hmmm
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:22] <wassy121> Hello, has anyone here had "good happy success" with configuring zenoss for LDAP authentication?
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:47] <Mark`> no
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:54] <Mark`> figured id say that so you didnt think it was a ghost town
[22-Apr-2008 19:11:56] <Exeetimg> not ovaheer !!
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:08] <wassy121> I am pretty close, but http://$SERVER/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/manageUserFolder is now throwing errors.
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:32] <wassy121> I got the actual auth going, but can't get group mapping proper :-/
[22-Apr-2008 19:12:35] <magnachef> I thought ldap was for the paid version only? Is that incorrect?
[22-Apr-2008 19:13:31] <wassy121> Ah, we have the enterprise edition.
[22-Apr-2008 19:13:44] <magnachef> how fancey ;-)
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:04] <wassy121> I guess I could email support and get "the zenoss answer", but thought someone might be in here with real experience.
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:10] <magnachef> yeah, I'm working off the poor man's version
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:39] <Free_the_Mallocs> is the so-called "poor man's version" worth the time and effort?
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:49] <magnachef> I think so
[22-Apr-2008 19:14:58] <magnachef> You will need to put in time and effort
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:03] <Free_the_Mallocs> which is fine
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:05] <magnachef> but it's definitely worth it
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:26] <Free_the_Mallocs> I have had previous experience with so-called community opensource and commercial opensource where the free version is so crippled that its unusuable
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:28] <magnachef> question is whether you want something (like ldap) that isn't available in the free version
[22-Apr-2008 19:15:59] <magnachef> I've been working with it for a couple months now, and I haven't run into that issue
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:01] <mrayzenoss> I can assure you we're not crippling the Core version, but if there's a feature you think isn't good enough, let me know
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:14] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[22-Apr-2008 19:16:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> mrayzenoss, thank you for that.
[22-Apr-2008 19:17:17] <Free_the_Mallocs> are there plans to release distribution specific packages at some point?
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:17] <Exeetimg> I definetily hate this error:
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:17] <mrayzenoss> yes
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:22] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:33] <mrayzenoss> Free_the_Mallocs: we're testing binary installers right now
[22-Apr-2008 19:18:47] <mrayzenoss> for Ubuntu/Debian, Solaris and OSX
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:01] <mrayzenoss> in addition to the RPM ones
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:18] <mrayzenoss> and eventually get into the distributions proper
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> that would be very helpful for many people
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:41] <mrayzenoss> yeah, source installs are painful
[22-Apr-2008 19:19:54] <mrayzenoss> but they build character
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:00] <Free_the_Mallocs> *smirk*
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:30] <wassy121> mrayzenoss: You should be running a yum repository so auto-updates and check-update scripts can function.
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:39] <wassy121>
[22-Apr-2008 19:20:47] <wassy121> Unless you do already.
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:23] <mrayzenoss> wassy121: I've added that to my sizable todo list
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:52] <Free_the_Mallocs> my todo list is restricted exclusively to blondes these days. . .
[22-Apr-2008 19:21:55] <Free_the_Mallocs> much more manageable
[22-Apr-2008 19:22:40] <wassy121> Fabio is a good dude.
[22-Apr-2008 19:22:51] <magnachef> seems like a rough list to me
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:21] <Free_the_Mallocs> actually, I should clarify by saying that its restricted to blonde aussie women. .
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:46] <Exeetimg> any thoughts on my error?
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:49] * magnachef is not familiar with too many of those
[22-Apr-2008 19:23:52] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host localhost and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[22-Apr-2008 19:24:10] <Free_the_Mallocs> Exeetimg, what's your /etc/hosts file look like?
[22-Apr-2008 19:24:34] <Exeetimg> I will show you in a second...BRB
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:09] <mrayzenoss> Exeetimg: that looks like this: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18597
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:25] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - sendto error Host xxxx and xxxx.yyyy.zzzz.net using same ip? (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:27] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost localhost
[22-Apr-2008 19:26:32] <Exeetimg> that is it..
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:20] <Free_the_Mallocs> how ever did you manage to get a hosts file like that?
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:22] <Free_the_Mallocs> change that line to
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:23] <Exeetimg> so it should look like this:
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:23] <Free_the_Mallocs> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[22-Apr-2008 19:28:30] <Exeetimg> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
[22-Apr-2008 19:29:29] <Exeetimg> sorry, it should look as what Free_the_Mallocs said?
[22-Apr-2008 19:31:20] <magnachef> yes
[22-Apr-2008 19:32:44] <Exeetimg> thank you..I am restarting the network now..
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:15] <Exeetimg> When I hist Device List, it just sits there spining, I have to refresh the page for the devices to show up, sometimes half of the list shows up only...
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:44] <magnachef> what are your server specs?
[22-Apr-2008 19:40:56] <magnachef> zope can be a resource hog
[22-Apr-2008 19:41:19] <magnachef> sometimes I'll click on a tab or something, and it'll take like 30 seconds to load, and then be fine
[22-Apr-2008 19:41:46] <magnachef> but I have dedicated server with plenty of resources
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:22] <Exeetimg> it a 4 gig mem, 2gig intel proc...on a desktop machine, I am only managing 150 devices right now
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:31] <wassy121> magnachef: Will it take "about" 30 seconds, or "exactly" 30 seconds each time?
[22-Apr-2008 19:43:49] <wassy121> Sometimes a 30-second timeout means a DNS problem.
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:03] <Exeetimg> I guess I could spare the 30 seconds..
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:05] <magnachef> about 30 sec...generally when I'm clicking on the edit tab
[22-Apr-2008 19:44:14] <magnachef> well, I only use IP's and not DNS
[22-Apr-2008 19:50:51] <idea4gud> hi guys: I had a terrible thing my system crashed and had to reinstall OS as well as Zenoss from scratch
[22-Apr-2008 19:51:13] <idea4gud> so it there anyway i can do like backup and minimize the damage
[22-Apr-2008 19:53:38] <Exeetimg> where are the mibs installed in FC8?
[22-Apr-2008 19:53:39] <magnachef> what about zenback
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:40] <magnachef> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5320
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:46] <magnachef> it's mentioned here
[22-Apr-2008 19:54:56] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - HELP! Zenoss stopped working after reboot. (at community.zenoss.com)
[22-Apr-2008 19:56:51] <Exeetimg> where are the mibs installed in Fedora Core 8?
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:11] <Exeetimg> there is no /usr/share/mibs directory
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:33] <magnachef> dunno...maybe check with google
[22-Apr-2008 19:57:56] <magnachef> they may have them in some odd location, or maybe the MIBs were not installed by default
[22-Apr-2008 19:58:14] <mrayzenoss> perhaps use locate to find them?
[22-Apr-2008 19:58:32] <mrayzenoss> or "find . | grep -i mib" from the root?
[22-Apr-2008 20:00:20] <Exeetimg> thanks
[22-Apr-2008 20:03:04] <Exeetimg> do you after I load the mib for a cisco switch, what is my next logicla step?
[22-Apr-2008 20:03:59] <Exeetimg> I meant logical...
[22-Apr-2008 20:04:24] <Exeetimg> do you know after I loaded the mib for a cisco switch, what is my next logical step?
[22-Apr-2008 20:04:35] <Exeetimg> yes, I am new to SNMP....
[22-Apr-2008 20:07:53] <magnachef> you loaded it to Zenoss?
[22-Apr-2008 20:08:22] <Exeetimg> yes I loaded the mib using zenmib run ........
[22-Apr-2008 20:08:51] <magnachef> then you just need to have those cisco devices send traps to your zenoss server
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:05] <magnachef> and obviously, make sure that the device has been added
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:17] <Exeetimg> so I have to go to my cisco switches via console??
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:26] <Exeetimg> it is added..
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:45] <Exeetimg> how do you send a trap?
[22-Apr-2008 20:09:56] <magnachef> from the router?
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:06] <magnachef> (or switch)
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:26] <Exeetimg> from the switch...I guess is there way for the switch to send the ptrap..?
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:39] <magnachef> you can do an auth failure
[22-Apr-2008 20:10:51] <magnachef> those will send an auth failure trap
[22-Apr-2008 20:11:18] <magnachef> not sure if there's a way to send a test trap, but you should see some stuff coming into your event console
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:27] <idea4gud> magna: Did you see my query
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:40] <Exeetimg> thanks..got to put out a fire now...whoohoo
[22-Apr-2008 20:14:51] <Exeetimg> put out a fire a meant..
[22-Apr-2008 20:15:41] <magnachef> I did not get your message
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:08] <idea4gud> my system crashed and i had to reinstall OS as well as zenoss
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:27] <magnachef> oh, yeah, I saw that
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:29] <idea4gud> so is there any way i can backup and keep damage min
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:41] <magnachef> I recommended looking at zenback and sent you a link
[22-Apr-2008 20:16:48] <idea4gud> k
[22-Apr-2008 20:27:55] <zaf> is there a good way to test zenwin?
[22-Apr-2008 20:52:38] <XenophonF> is anyone working on a FreeBSD port of Zenoss?
[22-Apr-2008 20:59:45] <mrayzenoss> XenophonF: it's only supported right now by source installs
[22-Apr-2008 21:00:25] <mrayzenoss> oops, I think I missed him
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[23-Apr-2008 06:04:38] <cappy2> wassup folks
[23-Apr-2008 06:05:36] <cappy2> how do you rebuild the device list page?
[23-Apr-2008 06:05:45] <cappy2> it's not updating and a restart of the service doesn't really help
[23-Apr-2008 10:06:01] <mzolisi> Hi
[23-Apr-2008 10:06:28] <mzolisi> Question: How do I monitor the UP/Down Status of interfaces in Zenoss
[23-Apr-2008 12:18:58] <mzolisi> Hello>
[23-Apr-2008 12:19:06] <mzolisi> Question: How do I monitor the UP/Down Status of interfaces in Zenoss?
[23-Apr-2008 12:19:55] <mzolisi> ..on a router
[23-Apr-2008 12:34:34] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: you probably want to use the Nagios plugins
[23-Apr-2008 12:36:53] <Bulwinkle> I did that a way back but I've forgotten how, you can probably find it in the documentation or on the forums
[23-Apr-2008 12:54:41] <mzolisi> OK, I'll try that . Thanks Bulwinkle
[23-Apr-2008 12:55:17] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: let me know if you find any docs on how to do that
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:16] <zenops> I installed a CISCO-SYSLOG.mib, then I went to the /MIBS/CISCO-SYSLOG/ screen, and do not see any new information...
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:39] <zenops> I see two tabs: OID Mappings and Traps....
[23-Apr-2008 14:12:59] <zenops> What am I supposed to do now to start collecting data?
[23-Apr-2008 14:14:23] <Bulwinkle> zenops: point your devices snmp traps to your zenoss server
[23-Apr-2008 14:20:04] <zenops> so is this done on in my cisco switch?
[23-Apr-2008 14:21:37] <zenops> What do I use OID Mappings in that tab?
[23-Apr-2008 14:26:05] <Bulwinkle> zenops: yes on your cisco switch... the OID mappings make it so that the events collected by the zenoss server are readable
[23-Apr-2008 14:28:17] <zenops> so I am getting nothing, and this is what I got from snmpwalk:
[23-Apr-2008 14:28:21] <zenops> Command: snmpwalk -v1 -c${device/zSnmpCommunity} ${here/manageIp} system
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:00] <zenops> Output:
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:37] <zenops> snmpwalk -v1 -cg00fy 10.25.8.8 system
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:48] <nemo__> somethings not right then
[23-Apr-2008 14:29:59] <nemo__> walk before you can run, teehee
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:03] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: Cisco IOS Software, C3750 Software (C3750-IPBASEK9-M), Version 12.2(40)SE, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:29] <zenops> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
[23-Apr-2008 14:30:58] <zenops> Compiled Fri 24-Aug-07 00:53 by myl
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:06] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysObjectID.0 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9.1.516
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:21] <zenops> DISMAN-EVENT-MIB::sysUpTimeInstance = Timeticks: (405564753) 46 days, 22:34:07.53
[23-Apr-2008 14:31:40] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysContact.0 = STRING: ODJFS Testlab 614.387.8219
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:01] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysName.0 = STRING: tl-labsw6.tl.odjfs.state.oh.us
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:16] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysLocation.0 = STRING: 4200 E 5th Ave (Testlab Floor SE), Columbus, OH
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:27] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysServices.0 = INTEGER: 6
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:39] <zenops> SNMPv2-MIB::sysORLastChange.0 = Timeticks: (0) 0:00:00.00
[23-Apr-2008 14:32:54] <zenops> DONE in 0 seconds on 1 targets
[23-Apr-2008 14:33:15] <zenops> that is it...I do not have an explanation for the smulies..
[23-Apr-2008 14:33:27] <zenops> that is it...I do not have an explanation for the smilies..
[23-Apr-2008 14:34:32] <Bulwinkle> smilies?
[23-Apr-2008 14:36:04] <Bulwinkle> zenops: the zenoss mibs have nothing to do with a snmpwalk
[23-Apr-2008 14:36:49] <zenops> ok, what do you thins is wrong?
[23-Apr-2008 14:37:48] <Bulwinkle> what are you trying to accomplish?
[23-Apr-2008 14:39:36] <zenops> I amd trying to collect SYSLOG info from a switch, I already loaded the CISCO-SYSLOG.mib and also enable a trap to de sent from the switch to my management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:22] <Bulwinkle> traps and syslogs are two totally different things....
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:36] <zenops> I amd trying to collect SYSLOG info from a switch, I already loaded the CISCO-SYSLOG.mib and also enable a trap to be sent from the switch to my management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:40:44] <Bulwinkle> if you don't know the difference then you probably shouldn't be managing a network
[23-Apr-2008 14:41:43] <zenops> I am new to SNMP but I do have an extensive experience in networking, so I got game
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:14] <zenops> iI just want to know how to at least one mib, the rest will follow
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:30] <zenops> iI just want to know how to load at least one mib, the rest will follow
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:31] <Bulwinkle> at least one mib what?
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:39] <Bulwinkle> you already did
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:53] <Bulwinkle> zenops: rtfm
[23-Apr-2008 14:42:58] <Bulwinkle> jeez....
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:07] <zenops> but now, I just don't seem to be getting any information..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:19] <zenops> what is my next logical step..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:37] <Bulwinkle> zenops: are you looking for SNMP or SYSLOG information?
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:39] <zenops> Dude..don't get angry..
[23-Apr-2008 14:43:45] <Bulwinkle> are all of you daemons running
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:12] <Bulwinkle> don't come in here and expect people to teach you the difference between syslog and SNMP
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:25] <zenops> only ZENJMX is not running
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:32] <cgibbons> hmm
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:39] <_chris_> that daemon is worthless anyway ;-)
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:41] <zenops> are an OP or a user?
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:45] <Bulwinkle> OP?
[23-Apr-2008 14:44:58] <zenops> channel op
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:24] <zenops> I do not expect anything from anyone..
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:29] <Bulwinkle> look to the userlist and see for yourself, or do I have to teach you about IRC too
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:43] <zenops> if you do not want to have a conversation then avoided..
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:54] <zenops> wow !
[23-Apr-2008 14:45:59] <cgibbons> awesome
[23-Apr-2008 14:46:11] <Bulwinkle> zenops: I really want to help you but you should help yourself by knowing what you are talking about
[23-Apr-2008 14:46:58] <Bulwinkle> ask anyone here, I'm always willing to help when someone knows what they are doing or what they want ZenOSS to do for them
[23-Apr-2008 14:47:08] <Bulwinkle> the manual is really a great starting place.
[23-Apr-2008 14:47:27] <zenops> Thank you Bullwinkle...
[23-Apr-2008 14:49:29] <Bulwinkle> zenops: any time
[23-Apr-2008 14:49:54] <mrayzenoss> I came in a little late zenops, which version are you running?
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:09] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: are you THE Ian?
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:17] <_chris_> he is the one of lore
[23-Apr-2008 14:51:21] <Bulwinkle> hahah
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:01] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: thanks for fixing my mapping problems
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:18] <__ian__> thanks for finding them.
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:35] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: job security is wonderful
[23-Apr-2008 14:52:39] <Bulwinkle> BBIAB
[23-Apr-2008 14:54:01] explosiv0SX is now known as rak
[23-Apr-2008 14:55:41] <nemo__> hmmmz
[23-Apr-2008 14:56:24] <zenops> hey..
[23-Apr-2008 14:56:43] <zenops> ver. .91
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:11] <nemo__> ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:18] <nemo__> still struggling with syslog ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:57:48] <zenops> Zenoss 2.1.91
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:00] <nemo__> when 2.1.3 is out ?
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:04] <zenops> yes... I am trying to understand it
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:05] <nemo__> upgrade to the latest surely
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:33] <nemo__> silly me
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:36] <nemo__> i am tired ;0
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:54] <mrayzenoss> nemo__: 2.2 is slated for 5/1
[23-Apr-2008 14:58:58] <zenops> I loaded a syslog mib and now I am assuming I should be able to view that info, I also enable traps on my switch to sent to my Management console
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:10] <nemo__> zenops
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:15] <nemo__> traps do less and less i heard
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:36] <nemo__> manufacturers are tagging info on to the ends of oids
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:40] <nemo__> and not using mibs
[23-Apr-2008 14:59:44] <nemo__> thats what i heard
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:02] <nemo__> i was hoping i could load a mib and forget about it too
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:10] <zenops> can you help setup an oids there
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:18] <nemo__> mibs do less and less i should say
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:28] <zenops> ok..
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:30] <nemo__> zenops , i didnt do any by hand sorry
[23-Apr-2008 15:00:35] <nemo__> were in the same boat there e
[23-Apr-2008 15:01:00] <zenops> I am just trying to understand the loading part and what follows..
[23-Apr-2008 15:01:59] <zenops> I will sit idle here until someone willingly will help me..\
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:07] <nemo__> thats maybe not the solution
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:25] <nemo__> with due respect, read the forums, i have posted a couple of times and got some good replies
[23-Apr-2008 15:03:44] <nemo__> should help you get an understanding, but you cant demand answers here
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:01] <nemo__> if ppl help out here, its your good luck, not a right ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:10] <zenops> I am not demanding..
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:14] <nemo__> thanks mr rayzenoss
[23-Apr-2008 15:04:45] <zenops> I have been to many chats channels in my life and some people just help..no questions asked..
[23-Apr-2008 15:05:22] <zenops> I do not solicit info by force..
[23-Apr-2008 15:05:53] <zenops> I just throw the question out there and if someone wants to ansewr then great
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:05] <mrayzenoss> zenops: Everyone tries to assist when they can, the forums are nice because they're not time-sensitive.
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:27] <mrayzenoss> and more Zenoss developers pay attention to the forums than IRC
[23-Apr-2008 15:09:48] <mrayzenoss> so don't get discouraged if IRC isn't working for you
[23-Apr-2008 15:18:55] <nemo__> zenops , not saying your being too pushy
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:13] <nemo__> i was refering to: zenops> I will sit idle here until someone willingly will help me..\
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:28] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: I've got one of my co-workers in class this week
[23-Apr-2008 15:19:34] <nemo__> i was kinda saying, well its no one elses job to solve your stuff, DIY
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:16] <__ian__> Bulwinkle: in class == here for training?
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:23] <Bulwinkle> nemo__: that guy doesn't know what help is
[23-Apr-2008 15:20:47] <nemo__> i try to be helpful, despite my rep ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:06] <nemo__> but i dont do other ppl's work,. i share what i know with others who help too
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:13] <Bulwinkle> __ian__: yeah... I'm sure he's beating Chet up. He's the last holder on to our Nagios infrastructure
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:25] <nemo__> poor chet ;p
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:43] <Bulwinkle> hahah... I'M even more helpful than nemo__
[23-Apr-2008 15:21:44] <Bulwinkle>
[23-Apr-2008 15:22:10] <nemo__> i got my zenoss tshirt on, no wonder ppl come to me here ( at work )
[23-Apr-2008 15:25:18] <Bulwinkle> zenops: have you decided what you are trying to get zenoss to do yet?
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:42] <baumer1122> i moved my zenoss virtual machine to a new server and i've been seeing lots of heartbeat failures
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:44] <baumer1122> http://www.steamboathomesonline.com.php4-7.websitetestlink.com/steamboat-mls-search.html
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:48] <baumer1122> oops
[23-Apr-2008 15:31:52] <baumer1122> clipboard
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[23-Apr-2008 15:32:12] <baumer1122> localhost.localdomain zenping heartbeat failure
[23-Apr-2008 15:34:13] <zenops> I am getting this error: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 848.43
[23-Apr-2008 15:34:53] <zenops> The actual switch is running at 45%....does anyone knows?
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:27] <Bulwinkle> zenops: what interface is the error showing up on?
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:40] <zenops> all interfaces
[23-Apr-2008 15:35:52] <zenops> on the switch
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:21] <Bulwinkle> all interfaces? unlikely
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:37] <zenops> yes it is weird...
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:37] <Bulwinkle> how many errors do you show in your event log?
[23-Apr-2008 15:36:47] <zenops> every interface has the same message..
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:02] <zenops> the actual switch is under utilized right now
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:24] <zenops> it is over 100 right now
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:34] <Bulwinkle> there is no such thing as an under utilized switch (unless it is powered on and has nothing plugged in to it)
[23-Apr-2008 15:37:52] <zenops> ok...
[23-Apr-2008 15:38:20] <zenops> It is just me trying to complete a sentence...
[23-Apr-2008 15:41:45] <Bulwinkle> zenops: how old are you?
[23-Apr-2008 15:43:36] <zenops> ???
[23-Apr-2008 15:45:47] <zenops> I worked at Intel, Oregon in their labs for 5 years developing and testing 10 GBe network adapters, how old do you think I am?
[23-Apr-2008 15:46:22] <baumer1122> at least 5?
[23-Apr-2008 15:46:29] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: hahahah
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:22] <baumer1122> the localhost.localdomain heartbeat failures i'm seeing appear to be false positives because all the zenoss daemons are up
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:33] <baumer1122> and other events are being logged
[23-Apr-2008 15:50:54] <zenops> excellent !!
[23-Apr-2008 15:52:25] <baumer1122> so any thoughts as to why i'm seeing them in my event log? localhost.localdomain does resolve to 127.0.0.1
[23-Apr-2008 15:52:46] <baumer1122> though that is not the hostname of my zenoss box
[23-Apr-2008 15:53:34] <baumer1122> can i change it to monitor the actual hostname instead of localhost?
[23-Apr-2008 15:55:21] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: there is a way to clear those ... let me try to clear the cobwebs....
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:00] <Bulwinkle> _chris_: do you know where to find that off the top of your head?
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:30] <_chris_> is this the name conflict between "localhost" and "localhost.localdomain" ?
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:37] <_chris_> zenping generates that
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:46] <baumer1122> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16959
[23-Apr-2008 16:00:53] <baumer1122> yeah i found this
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - First start issue, Localhost + Localhost.localdomain (at community.zenoss.com)
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:18] <baumer1122> i do in fact have localhost & localhost.localdomain mapped to 127.0.0.1
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:42] <baumer1122> should i remove one?
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:43] <Bulwinkle> _chris_: he changed the name of his server and is getting the errant heartbeats
[23-Apr-2008 16:01:49] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: shouldn't need to
[23-Apr-2008 16:02:35] <zenops> your /etc/hosts file has to look like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost
[23-Apr-2008 16:02:58] <zenops> nothing elese should be in thar file..
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:05] <zenops> restart network..
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:33] <baumer1122> i'll try
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:34] <zenops> your error messages will go away
[23-Apr-2008 16:03:55] <zenops> just rem the other statement
[23-Apr-2008 16:04:15] <zenops> nothing else should be in that file..
[23-Apr-2008 16:04:59] <Bulwinkle> hahah....
[23-Apr-2008 16:08:48] <baumer1122> so far so good...
[23-Apr-2008 16:09:40] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: did you clear the events
[23-Apr-2008 16:09:51] <baumer1122> yes
[23-Apr-2008 16:12:06] <baumer1122> yeah, i think that fixed it. thanks zenops
[23-Apr-2008 16:12:48] <Bulwinkle> baumer1122: If you change it back to they show up again? just curious
[23-Apr-2008 16:13:38] <baumer1122> checking
[23-Apr-2008 16:14:19] <baumer1122> is ther anyway to force it to check?
[23-Apr-2008 16:14:31] <baumer1122> i'm not sure how often it happens...
[23-Apr-2008 16:16:01] <baumer1122> not seeing it yet
[23-Apr-2008 16:17:03] <zenops> it will not comeback
[23-Apr-2008 16:17:20] <zenops> welcome
[23-Apr-2008 16:34:43] <zenops> ok then..
[23-Apr-2008 16:45:39] <Bulwinkle> it was the clearing of the events not the changing of the /etc/hosts file
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[23-Apr-2008 18:51:33] <magnachef> is there a way to add fields to the Device List?
[23-Apr-2008 18:52:28] <magnachef> for example: I want to add the Systems field so that I can view and sort on my various systems
[23-Apr-2008 18:53:07] <magnachef> this will help to ensure that all devices are a part of a Systems class
[23-Apr-2008 19:28:11] <Bulwinkle> magnachef: yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:30:26] <magnachef> cool...how? :-)
[23-Apr-2008 19:31:36] <moe2> anyone here?
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:10] <magnachef> i am
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:15] <moe2> cool
[23-Apr-2008 19:32:18] <moe2> stupid questions
[23-Apr-2008 19:33:05] <moe2> currently i have zenoss running on one of my boxes and is directly cnected to the net
[23-Apr-2008 19:33:26] <moe2> questions is is it safe t haveit out there?
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:08] <magnachef> make sure you have a firewall up and running
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:13] <moe2> i jsut started playing with it and its pretty neat...but i'm not sure where to place it
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:31] <magnachef> behind a firewall, preferrably
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:48] <magnachef> what are you trying to monitor? corporate network? home computers?
[23-Apr-2008 19:34:58] <moe2> no so much corprate
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:11] <moe2> but i do need to monitor a few servers n diff locations
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:34] <magnachef> which you need to go across the net to monitor?
[23-Apr-2008 19:35:53] <moe2> pretty much yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:36:45] <magnachef> ok, well, just have it at your main location on the network, and make sure it has the ability to get out and into your remote sites
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:04] <magnachef> you can do stuff like setting up VPN's to each site, or use SNMP v3
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:43] <moe2> yes i was looking into setting up vpn's but not very familiar on how to do it in linux
[23-Apr-2008 19:37:51] <moe2> i will need to look into snmpv3
[23-Apr-2008 19:38:34] <moe2> right now i'm only playing with test bxes so t sno big deal
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:06] <moe2> thanks
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:31] <magnachef> not sure about how well Zenoss and SNMP v3 play together
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:32] <moe2> wasn't really sure where something like that should be placed
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:36] <magnachef> np
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:42] <moe2> what's teh difference
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:43] <moe2> ?
[23-Apr-2008 19:39:47] <magnachef> anywhere that it can get to the servers you want to monitor
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:01] <magnachef> between snmp v3 and v2c?
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:05] <moe2> yes
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:14] <moe2> in relation to zenoss
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:28] <magnachef> v3 is encrypted and you need to have a username and password
[23-Apr-2008 19:40:42] <magnachef> as opposed to just having a community string in version 1 and 2c
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:26] <moe2> ah
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:28] <moe2> ok
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:38] <moe2> you just answered my next question
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:46] <moe2> so v is plain text
[23-Apr-2008 19:41:50] <moe2> v2
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:02] <magnachef> yep
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:14] <moe2> so easily sniffed
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:54] <magnachef> yep
[23-Apr-2008 19:42:55] <moe2> looks like i will need to do vpn's
[23-Apr-2008 19:43:09] <magnachef> so you can do vpn's and v2 or v1
[23-Apr-2008 19:44:04] <moe2> thanks again
[23-Apr-2008 19:44:11] <magnachef> np
[23-Apr-2008 19:45:28] <magnachef> ping Bulwinkle
[23-Apr-2008 19:49:56] <Bulwinkle> I'm here
[23-Apr-2008 19:54:58] <magnachef> how do you add the systems field to the device list?
[23-Apr-2008 20:06:17] <Bulwinkle> magnachef: you mean add devices to a system group?
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:10] <magnachef> yeah
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:13] <magnachef> that's all setup
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:28] <Bulwinkle> okay, I guess I don't understand what you want to do
[23-Apr-2008 20:08:52] <magnachef> when I click on "Main Views" -> "Device List" it gives a list of all devices
[23-Apr-2008 20:09:16] <magnachef> one of the fields I want to show is what system group that devices belongs to
[23-Apr-2008 20:10:22] <Bulwinkle> that should be really easy to do but I'm not sure how to... Chet could tell you pretty quickly. Post it on the forums
[23-Apr-2008 20:10:49] <magnachef> yeah, sounds easy, but I can't find it either - It's posted already in zenoss-users forum
[23-Apr-2008 20:50:29] <cgibbons> hurm
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[24-Apr-2008 07:36:47] <mzolisi> Hi I just read, http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-monitor-a-software-raid-device/
[24-Apr-2008 07:37:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - How to Monitor a Software RAID device - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[24-Apr-2008 07:37:38] <mzolisi> And I want to use a similar method to monitor the up/down status of intefaces using SNMP OID ifOperStatus
[24-Apr-2008 07:38:26] <mzolisi> But I was wondering if there is a more direct method, that matches exact datasource values, as opposed to using thresholds
[24-Apr-2008 08:11:59] <Mark`> hmm
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:08] <Mark`> i use snmp traps
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:11] <Mark`> as much as possible
[24-Apr-2008 08:12:50] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 08:13:18] <mzolisi> So if want poll and generate events for specific OIDs?
[24-Apr-2008 08:13:59] <Mark`> i guess it depends on a lot of factors
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:15] <Mark`> our dell servers have management software that generates traps for the raid controllers and everything else
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:20] <Mark`> chassis temperature, voltages, etc
[24-Apr-2008 08:14:33] <Mark`> so i dont have to actively monitor them via snmp, i just have zenoss handle the traps
[24-Apr-2008 08:34:19] <mzolisi> Ok. Thanks Mark
[24-Apr-2008 12:16:10] <twm1010> morning
[24-Apr-2008 12:19:33] <DarkMats> evning
[24-Apr-2008 12:19:57] <DarkMats> well... afternoon at least...
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:19] <twm1010> I'm scanning the forums, there was a post or howto a while back, on how to install all the Nagios plugins on Zenoss
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:34] <twm1010> it was just a couple commands it came down to
[24-Apr-2008 12:20:43] <twm1010> but it installed all of them in one swoop
[24-Apr-2008 12:22:41] <mzolisi> I wanna stop Zenoss deduplication, how do I do it
[24-Apr-2008 12:22:43] <mzolisi> ?
[24-Apr-2008 12:23:04] <twm1010> deduplication of what?
[24-Apr-2008 12:23:21] <twm1010> Like how it stacks up common events?
[24-Apr-2008 12:24:59] <mzolisi> Yeah
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:19] <mzolisi> and how it removes them from the stack
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:31] <mzolisi> I want to use Zenoss as a poller
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:42] <twm1010> Not sure you can do that
[24-Apr-2008 12:25:54] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:05] <twm1010> I know they touted it as a feature at one point
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:20] <mzolisi> And forward the events to something like Netcool Omnibus to correlate the evnts
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:21] <mzolisi> e
[24-Apr-2008 12:26:38] <mzolisi> IBM/Tivoli
[24-Apr-2008 12:27:00] <twm1010> I've never had Zenoss forward anything, just end e-mails.
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:06] <twm1010> Ah I see what you're saying
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:20] <twm1010> so like if an interface on a router goes down, and then you see degraded performance somewhere else
[24-Apr-2008 12:30:36] <twm1010> because now another interface is handling 100% of the load?
[24-Apr-2008 13:15:41] <mzolisi> Something like that <twm1010>
[24-Apr-2008 13:27:22] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: I think you can have it send events on the reception of events
[24-Apr-2008 13:27:27] <Bulwinkle> shouldn't be too hard
[24-Apr-2008 13:33:11] <mzolisi> Ok Bulwinkle. So what Zenoss system interface should I try to use this with?
[24-Apr-2008 13:33:22] <mzolisi> i mean, do
[24-Apr-2008 13:34:43] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: sounds like you really need something other than zenoss really....
[24-Apr-2008 13:35:09] <Bulwinkle> you can set a trigger within zenoss to send a syslog message, or snmp trap though
[24-Apr-2008 13:37:11] <mzolisi> ok
[24-Apr-2008 13:38:10] <Bulwinkle> look under the events under classes.... see if you can figure out how to do it from there.
[24-Apr-2008 16:02:25] <cgibbons> hmm
[24-Apr-2008 16:25:22] <Bulwinkle> mzolisi: did you find what you were looking for?
[24-Apr-2008 16:29:33] <Bulwinkle> who was looking to add the system to their device views?
[24-Apr-2008 17:07:16] <cappy> where does zenoss store user settings in regards to the portlets?
[24-Apr-2008 17:07:37] <__ian___> In a giant JSON string on the UserSettings object.
[24-Apr-2008 17:08:24] <cappy> hrm the settings for the portlets don't retain the user settings
[24-Apr-2008 17:13:54] <__ian___> Possibly the XMLHttpRequest isn't getting sent properly? If you are using Firefox and have Firebug installed, check the POST to setDashboardState and see if it completes
[24-Apr-2008 17:21:55] <cappy> i'm using IE
[24-Apr-2008 17:24:42] <__ian___> Then you're pretty much out of luck from a debugging standpoint. I just tested in IE7 and it seems to work properly there
[24-Apr-2008 17:26:32] <cappy> i'm just afraid that the install might not have been done properly
[24-Apr-2008 17:28:08] <__ian___> hit this and see what you get: http://yourhost:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/admin/setDashboardState
[24-Apr-2008 17:30:50] <cappy> it says True
[24-Apr-2008 17:33:56] <__ian___> well, then that's certainly setting properly. It doesn't seem like an install problem
[24-Apr-2008 17:34:47] <cappy> i thought it might have been with my user but i created a new one and it still gives the same issue of not keeping the settings properly
[24-Apr-2008 17:36:46] <__ian___> which settings, in particular?
[24-Apr-2008 17:36:55] <__ian___> that is, does it always just revert to the default dashboard?
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:17] <cappy> yeah
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:28] <cappy> the default dashboard contains a production states portlet
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:36] <cappy> it defaults to maintainence status or something
[24-Apr-2008 17:37:53] <cappy> but i'm trying to set it to show only production since that's where all our servers are at
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:25] <__ian___> Have you tried moving a portlet around to see if that saves?
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:43] <cappy> i modify the portlet config, change the status to production and save and when i log out and back in, it reverts back to the original
[24-Apr-2008 17:38:49] <cappy> well even that doesn't work
[24-Apr-2008 17:39:11] <__ian___> what version are you running? Of Zenoss, I mean. And IE.
[24-Apr-2008 17:39:37] <cappy> ie 7 and zenoss 2.1.3
[24-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <__ian___> You've got a pretty weird outlier bug then. You can try turning on script debugging in IE, or you can load up the Firefox to check for bugs, but I can't reproduce that one.
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:19] <cappy> so i need to get sometihng called firebug?
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:44] <__ian___> Firebug is a Firefox add-on that is enormously useful. http://getfirebug.com
[24-Apr-2008 17:41:51] <adytum-bot> Title: Firebug - Web Development Evolved (at getfirebug.com)
[24-Apr-2008 17:43:29] <cappy> ok it's loaded
[24-Apr-2008 17:43:37] <cappy> what am i looking for?
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:44] <cappy> hrm
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:44] <cappy> odd
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:46] <cappy> now it's working
[24-Apr-2008 17:45:51] <cappy> it's keeping my settings and everything
[24-Apr-2008 17:47:00] <__ian___> IE is a whole lot crankier about minor javascript irregularities, so it will just stop working for no obvious reason if there's a stray comma, for example.
[24-Apr-2008 17:47:35] <__ian___> Although I don't know why that would apply in your case, since the 2.1.3 dashboard in IE7 seems to work for me
[24-Apr-2008 17:48:52] <__ian___> But weird bugs are more commonplace in IE. If you turn on script debugging in Tools > Internet Options > Advanced, you'll be able to see what javascript bug is killing you.
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:02] <__ian___> Typically, though, you'll get better results with Firefox.
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:33] <cappy> i kind of figured that when i tried it on my mac
[24-Apr-2008 17:49:53] <cappy> now if zenoss would just call me or email me about looking at their tomcat zenpacks
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:02] <cappy> so how do you apply a specific zenpack to a group of servers?
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:12] <cappy> are they just available to all servers when they are installed?
[24-Apr-2008 17:50:41] <__ian___> Yes. You'll get templates and things that you can bind like normal.
[24-Apr-2008 17:53:24] <cappy> bind?
[24-Apr-2008 17:55:11] <__ian___> You'll probably want to read through the admin guide for some of these concepts.
[24-Apr-2008 17:55:35] <cappy> yeah i tried to read through them but the guide itself is a task and a half to go through
[24-Apr-2008 18:42:57] <locohost__> anyone ever setup zenoss as an ha failover pair
[24-Apr-2008 19:18:13] <zenops> has anyone loaded the zenpack for VMware?
[24-Apr-2008 19:28:21] <magnachef> I believe I have, but haven't used it yet
[24-Apr-2008 19:28:53] <magnachef> is that the same as the ESX zenpack?
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[24-Apr-2008 20:04:05] <magnachef> Does anyone know how to add a field to the "Main Views" -> "Device List" screen?
[24-Apr-2008 20:20:12] <magnachef> ping bulwinkle
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:05] <__ian__> You can't. Those fields are shown because they're indexed. It's nontrivial to store attribute values in an index then show them on the device list.
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:16] <__ian__> It can be done, but it isn't a simple thing.
[24-Apr-2008 20:22:47] <magnachef> ahh, that's too bad
[24-Apr-2008 20:23:12] <magnachef> I wish it was as easy as adding it to the Event Console
[24-Apr-2008 20:23:43] <magnachef> ...not sure why it isn't. But then again, I don't know the architecture of the code
[24-Apr-2008 20:45:28] idg|dinner is now known as indradg
[24-Apr-2008 22:03:54] <garnica> hi people !
[24-Apr-2008 22:04:41] <garnica> how can I load the mib files in the zenoss app that runs on a virtual machine for windows ?
[24-Apr-2008 22:05:34] <garnica> I've been trying zenmib run "mibfile", according to the manual the mib file should be in /usr/share/mibs/site
[24-Apr-2008 22:05:51] <garnica> but in the zenoss virtual machine version there is not such directory
[24-Apr-2008 22:06:08] <_chris_> the mib should be in ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/site
[24-Apr-2008 22:06:18] <_chris_> then you can run "zenmib run"
[24-Apr-2008 22:07:52] <garnica> ok... trying that.....
[24-Apr-2008 22:10:36] <garnica> I'm running zenoss in a virtual machine vmware on a windows platform.... in such version there is not a ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/site directory
[24-Apr-2008 22:11:21] <garnica> instead we have ${ZENHOME}/share/mibs/iana
[24-Apr-2008 22:11:43] <garnica> ..../iana ...../ietf ...../irtf .... /tubs
[24-Apr-2008 22:16:28] <garnica> I have a zenoss server working, already configured to monitor a set of known devices in my network... is there a way to take this config to a new zenoss server ??
[24-Apr-2008 22:29:10] <_chris_> garnica: yes. use the zenbackup and zenrestore features. the user's guide explainst he process
[24-Apr-2008 22:30:05] <garnica> ok ! thanks
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[25-Apr-2008 01:14:18] <ForceNet> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99:
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[25-Apr-2008 01:26:14] <ForceNet> $nicks
[25-Apr-2008 01:26:32] <ForceNet> alguem?
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[25-Apr-2008 06:42:32] <dan__t> 'morning.
[25-Apr-2008 06:43:13] <dan__t> I haven't used Zabbix in quite a while, and I'm waiting for a new VM to fire up so I can test it out some more - but is Zenoss limited to monitoring a host via SNMP, rather than using a client-side utility?
[25-Apr-2008 06:43:23] <dan__t> I noticed that's what is appealing about something like Zabbix
[25-Apr-2008 07:14:06] <Bulwinkle> dan__t: what are you looking to monitor?
[25-Apr-2008 07:14:25] <Bulwinkle> dan__t: ZenOSS can also run command, portscans, and WMI for windows
[25-Apr-2008 14:33:44] <zenops> Hola !
[25-Apr-2008 15:07:19] <flo__> hello!
[25-Apr-2008 15:09:40] <flo__> can i ask something about zenoss core here?
[25-Apr-2008 15:09:53] <magnachef> this is the place
[25-Apr-2008 15:10:00] <flo__> thank you
[25-Apr-2008 15:11:00] <flo__> i want to implement a new table in the OS tab for each device, but i have no idea how to start. do you know a good zenpack or something else for me to start?
[25-Apr-2008 15:12:36] <magnachef> doesn't sound like a zenpack thing...sounds like a code change
[25-Apr-2008 15:12:40] <flo__> the modeler i already have written in python, but now i have to put the data-map into the zenoss gui
[25-Apr-2008 15:13:00] <magnachef> I could be wrong though...explain more of what you're trying to do
[25-Apr-2008 15:13:23] <flo__> im reading a list of data with a new modeler throuth snmp
[25-Apr-2008 15:14:20] <flo__> this list i need to put in a table (something like the "ip services" table)
[25-Apr-2008 15:15:23] <magnachef> not sure...have you checked the forums?
[25-Apr-2008 15:17:05] <flo__> i ve googled a lot, also searched the zenoss-forums over several weeks. the "nearest" solution was this: www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/3ComDeviceModel
[25-Apr-2008 15:17:36] <flo__> this solution makes almost what i want - but this modeler only fills in some values. i need to do the same thing with a list
[25-Apr-2008 15:18:51] <magnachef> maybe some of the devs can help in zenoss-dev
[25-Apr-2008 15:19:31] <flo__> do you think its better to make a post there in the forum?
[25-Apr-2008 15:19:53] <magnachef> yeah...unless there's any zenoss'ers hanging around here
[25-Apr-2008 15:20:19] <magnachef> I know mrayzenoss is a man on the inside
[25-Apr-2008 15:21:09] <flo__> oukay. so thank you and have a nice weekend
[25-Apr-2008 15:23:36] <bschrock6962> Hello, at one point I was testing zenoss and had ssh command checks working, but now I am unable to get it working. Can someone point out where the documentation is that would relate to that? I have the manual and I find that a bit lean on information.
[25-Apr-2008 15:29:57] <magnachef> if it's not in the manual, it may be on the wiki
[25-Apr-2008 15:30:06] <magnachef> but yeah, the docs are quite lean in general
[25-Apr-2008 16:32:14] <zenops> I had enabled SNMP on my Cisco 3750 switch and setup traps to send to Zenoss server
[25-Apr-2008 16:35:16] <zenops> I still can see any additional information on the device, I can only info on the OS tab where I could view all the interfaces and theirs graphs, but that is the only tab with info.
[25-Apr-2008 16:39:13] <twm1010> You mean, you can't see?
[25-Apr-2008 16:39:29] <twm1010> What additional information are you after?
[25-Apr-2008 16:42:45] <zenops> I am supposed to see more info
[25-Apr-2008 16:43:11] <zenops> Am i?
[25-Apr-2008 16:43:28] <zenops> or the OS tab with the interface, is that it?
[25-Apr-2008 16:44:35] <zenops> on the hardware tab I would like descriptions of Power , heating, power supply failure, etc..
[25-Apr-2008 16:52:39] <garnica> hey zenops, why don't you try an snmpwalk command to your cisco switch from the zenoss app
[25-Apr-2008 16:52:41] <garnica> ?
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:04] <twm1010> I don't believe you will see that info unless a template has been designed specifically to collect it
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:10] <garnica> it gives you a bit more of info, besides the interface graphs
[25-Apr-2008 16:53:29] <twm1010> the performance tab should show you CPU utilization, memory, etc. but vendor specific hardware info has to be programmed in i would think
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[25-Apr-2008 17:03:46] <twm1010> Does anyone else think that the alerting configuration in Zenoss is just mind boggling?
[25-Apr-2008 17:04:16] <twm1010> I can't seem to settle on a scheme I like without causing some kind of duplication of effort
[25-Apr-2008 17:10:19] <magnachef> it does seem like there is a lot of brute force configuring of things, yes
[25-Apr-2008 17:13:41] <twm1010> okay RTFM was my problem
[25-Apr-2008 17:13:47] <twm1010> this making mucho more sense now
[25-Apr-2008 17:17:16] <zenops> That is the thing, there is nothing in the Performace tab
[25-Apr-2008 17:19:40] <zenops> I did an snmpwalk before and everything check out good
[25-Apr-2008 17:32:07] <garnica> you can customize the snmpwalk command, go to the Settings menu, select the commands tab and click the link to snmpwalk
[25-Apr-2008 17:32:42] <garnica> I would suggest you to erase the word system, then execute an snmpwalk again to obtain much more info
[25-Apr-2008 17:40:38] <zenops> So Iam getting this message from my switch:
[25-Apr-2008 17:40:42] <zenops> snmp trap 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.43.2.0.1
[25-Apr-2008 17:41:11] <zenops> The switch has enabled traps, what do I do with this message?
[25-Apr-2008 17:41:28] <zenops> do I have to have something enable in Zenoss?
[25-Apr-2008 17:44:07] <zenops> these are Yellow messages in my switch events...
[25-Apr-2008 17:44:34] <magnachef> do you have the mib loaded into zenoss?
[25-Apr-2008 17:46:53] <magnachef> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?local=en&translate=true&objectInput=ciscoConfigManEvent
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:05] <garnica> zenops, first you need to download the mib file of your cisco switch http://www.oidview.com/mibs/detail.html try this
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:08] <adytum-bot> Title: Cisco SNMP Object Navigator (at tools.cisco.com)
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:11] <garnica> or cisco....
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:15] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere's MIB Download Area (at www.oidview.com)
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:30] <zenops> Which ine would that be..
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:33] <zenops> let me check
[25-Apr-2008 17:47:37] <garnica> then upload the mib files to your zenoss app to understand the traps
[25-Apr-2008 17:48:37] <zenops> I have the IF-MIB and SYSLOG-MIB loaded
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:09] <garnica> zenops: you can download any mibbrowser ( I have downloaded jmibbrowser from sourceforge, works on java ) to get a clearer way to understand SNMP messages
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:16] <zenops> they are loaded..
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:39] <magnachef> you need the CISCO-CONFIG-MAN-MIB, I believe
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:47] <zenops> I iREASONING MIB walker
[25-Apr-2008 17:49:56] <zenops> I have iREASONING MIB walker
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:20] <garnica> search the mib file for your cisco model, that's important !
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:22] <zenops> let me get that one loaded up...git me a few minutes
[25-Apr-2008 17:50:44] <zenops> Thatr is how I got the other ones, the same way your describing it
[25-Apr-2008 18:26:22] <zenops> Are you still there magnachef?
[25-Apr-2008 18:27:09] <magnachef> yep
[25-Apr-2008 18:30:43] <magnachef> sup?
[25-Apr-2008 18:31:50] <zenops> so
[25-Apr-2008 18:32:15] <zenops> I loaded the MIB, I am confused about what to do next
[25-Apr-2008 18:32:28] <zenops> Mib is loaded,
[25-Apr-2008 18:33:58] <nemo__> inspect it in zenoss
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:08] <nemo__> some mibs i loaded seem to have zero rows
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:11] <nemo__> some are ok
[25-Apr-2008 18:34:52] <zenops> let me check
[25-Apr-2008 18:36:51] <zenops> I loaded 5 mibs for this Cisco unit, I do not get any addittional compared with before
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:13] <magnachef> did they load alright, or complain about dependencies?
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:14] <zenops> I loaded 5 mibs for this Cisco unit, I do not get any addittional information , graphs or notifications, compared with before
[25-Apr-2008 18:37:44] <zenops> they do load right, I fixed the dependencies, by adding the neede mibs
[25-Apr-2008 18:38:33] <magnachef> is there any weird thing with needing to restart zenoss? I know that shouldn't need to be done, but is that what needs to be done in reality?
[25-Apr-2008 18:38:52] <magnachef> oh, clear the previous events from that device first
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:01] <magnachef> then have it resend the trap again
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:11] <magnachef> maybe you still have the old event lying around
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:22] <zenops> All cleared..
[25-Apr-2008 18:39:32] <zenops> Whta happens when you get a trap?
[25-Apr-2008 18:40:36] <zenops> I mean a got a notification in yellow of an improper login...
[25-Apr-2008 18:41:02] <magnachef> ok, that's a trap
[25-Apr-2008 18:41:09] <magnachef> you should have an event in the event console
[25-Apr-2008 18:42:36] <zenops> I did..
[25-Apr-2008 18:42:50] <zenops> so what do I do in practcality with it..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:01] <zenops> have sent an email to the admin..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:23] <zenops> or it is just there for history purposes..
[25-Apr-2008 18:43:51] <zenops> I bouncing the Zenoss server............................
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> well, it should be for the NOC
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:27] <magnachef> or whoever is watching it
[25-Apr-2008 18:49:52] <magnachef> when someone has dealt with it, you can acknowledge it
[25-Apr-2008 18:50:11] <magnachef> which will keep it there, and when completed, move it to history
[25-Apr-2008 18:50:55] <twm1010> call me ignorant on routers here, but for me to receive a trap that an interface has gone down, i configure that on the router?
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:12] <twm1010> is that a global setting, or per interface
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:12] <magnachef> yeah
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:26] <zenops> I just had some log improperly to the switch, i did a get a notification but it does not tell me that it was an improper login???
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:28] * magnachef CCNA has long since expired
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:35] <twm1010> ah ha, http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094a05.shtml
[25-Apr-2008 18:51:43] <twm1010> i'm off to go edumacate myself
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:03] <twm1010> i will report back when i'm slightly less ignorant
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:11] <zenops> I meant "someone"
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:38] <magnachef> zenops: well, the event is for an auth failure?
[25-Apr-2008 18:52:59] <twm1010> chef: I would think that would be the ideal way to generate an event that an interface has gone down, especially if there are multiple routes that can be taken to reach a router
[25-Apr-2008 18:53:37] <magnachef> well, it should be sent out your management interface
[25-Apr-2008 18:59:59] <zenops> So, why do not I get the syslog notification, I have the syslog Mib loaded..
[25-Apr-2008 19:00:37] <magnachef> syslog is different from snmp/trap
[25-Apr-2008 19:01:31] <zenops> Also my notification comes as "unknown class event" in the events tab?
[25-Apr-2008 19:01:53] <magnachef> you need to map it to an event type
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:09] <zenops> I guess what I am trying to sya i sthat the message is so generic...
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:26] <magnachef> welcome to SNMP traps!
[25-Apr-2008 19:02:28] <zenops> what are my choices of events...
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:02] <magnachef> I know that Netcool, for example, has something that allows you to enrich the events and add more information to it
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:35] <zenops> I want to learn this so bad..
[25-Apr-2008 19:03:57] <magnachef> and there's a lot to learn!
[25-Apr-2008 19:04:33] <magnachef> I'd say your best bet is to google search, then read up
[25-Apr-2008 19:04:46] <magnachef> The Essential SNMP book from O'Reilly may help too
[25-Apr-2008 19:05:06] <magnachef> man snmpd and man snmpd.conf should help too
[25-Apr-2008 19:05:17] <magnachef> and for routers and switches, search through the Cisco site
[25-Apr-2008 19:06:08] <zenops> I just want this message trap setup, to show my boss some progress
[25-Apr-2008 19:09:21] <magnachef> well, you can show that it's showing up in your event list
[25-Apr-2008 19:09:37] <magnachef> can you shutdown an interface on your switch/router?
[25-Apr-2008 19:10:28] <magnachef> because you will see an event for ifDown
[25-Apr-2008 19:12:24] <zenops> Let me try that
[25-Apr-2008 19:17:25] <twm1010> so wait, zenoss reads the log on the router?
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:01] <twm1010> thats confusing
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:20] <zenops> I got the notification of the IFDOWN..cool
[25-Apr-2008 19:18:53] <zenops> How do I get a better message if improper login..?
[25-Apr-2008 19:19:55] <magnachef> is someone actually getting into the system?
[25-Apr-2008 19:20:25] <magnachef> twm: no, it won't read the logs on the router, the router should send it's syslog messages out to a server
[25-Apr-2008 19:28:29] <twm1010> ah, gotcha
[25-Apr-2008 19:29:05] <twm1010> the cisco document references a difference between traps and informs, does Zenoss support both?
[25-Apr-2008 19:31:16] <magnachef> I think informs is just informational stuff, where traps are errors
[25-Apr-2008 19:32:38] <magnachef> so yes, I believe zenoss does
[25-Apr-2008 19:35:29] <twm1010> well, as it says here, traps are broadcast and don't expect a confirmation of receipt
[25-Apr-2008 19:35:38] <twm1010> where as informs send the same data, but confirm that it made it
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:12] <twm1010> ""However, informs consume more resources in the agent and in the network. Unlike a trap, which is discarded as soon as it is sent, an inform request must be held in memory until a response is received, or the request times out. Traps are sent only once, while an inform can be retried several times. The retries increase traffic and contribute to a higher overhead on the network.""
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:40] <twm1010> I would think traps should be sufficient, though, if an interface goes down, and re routing doesn't happen immediately, perhaps interface down traps should be informs
[25-Apr-2008 19:36:46] <twm1010> and the rest can be traps
[25-Apr-2008 19:37:43] <magnachef> yeah, I would think so
[25-Apr-2008 19:38:25] <magnachef> so informs use TCP and not UDP?
[25-Apr-2008 19:40:09] <deanwesterburg> Hello everyone. I'm having problems getting my rrd file to generate. I have found lots of others with this issue on the forums, but no good solutions. Permissions are ok, Cleared out the temp files, but still no go.. Any ideas?
[25-Apr-2008 19:40:57] <magnachef> what device class did you add the machine to?
[25-Apr-2008 19:42:32] <deanwesterburg> I have a custom device class created, and a template bound to the device. The template is running the "check_nwstat" command and I have it so the output is "|load1=3" where 3 is the percent of processor usage
[25-Apr-2008 19:42:54] <deanwesterburg> zentestcommand returns "|load1=3"
[25-Apr-2008 19:45:57] <magnachef> ahhh, so you need to setup the datapoints
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:08] <magnachef> it won't do it for you automatically
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:14] <deanwesterburg> I did.
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:21] <deanwesterburg> I have the datapoint "load1"
[25-Apr-2008 19:46:27] <deanwesterburg> then the graph point as well.
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:21] <magnachef> ahhh, ok. So your performance template is all setup and applied to that device class
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:49] <magnachef> oh, well you can't graph that string
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:52] <deanwesterburg> Correct. If I understand correctly, I have created the datasource "load1" because that is what is in the output of my command
[25-Apr-2008 19:47:58] <deanwesterburg> oh!
[25-Apr-2008 19:48:09] <magnachef> you'll need to parse the 3 out
[25-Apr-2008 19:49:00] <deanwesterburg> I did that once, but I'll try it again.
[25-Apr-2008 19:51:04] <magnachef> what is in your check_nwstat command?
[25-Apr-2008 19:52:21] <deanwesterburg> it is "/opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nwstat -H ${dev/manageIp} -v LOAD1 | awk '{print $$15}' | awk -F\% '{print $$2}' | awk -F\; '{print $$1}'"
[25-Apr-2008 19:55:17] <deanwesterburg> when I do "zentestcommand -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --datasource=load1" I get "|load1=7"
[25-Apr-2008 19:55:28] <deanwesterburg> but you are saying I need it to just be the "7"
[25-Apr-2008 19:56:19] <deanwesterburg> would this stop the rrd file from even generating though?
[25-Apr-2008 20:05:39] <deanwesterburg> can my datapoint and datasource be the same name?
[25-Apr-2008 20:06:57] <magnachef> yeah
[25-Apr-2008 20:07:02] <magnachef> because it's not a number
[25-Apr-2008 20:08:13] <deanwesterburg> ok. I now have just "/opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nwstat -H ${dev/manageIp} -v LOAD1 | awk '{print $$15}' | awk -F\= '{print $$2}' | awk -F\; '{print $$1}'" so that I get a number output.. Still no go....
[25-Apr-2008 20:10:44] <magnachef> what does that output?
[25-Apr-2008 20:10:53] <deanwesterburg> just "7"
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:05] <deanwesterburg> which is the correct % proc used right now.
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:43] <magnachef> hmm
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:48] <deanwesterburg> I just changed my thresholds to a min of 50 and a max of 51 and am not seeing a event triggered...
[25-Apr-2008 20:11:49] <magnachef> well, give it about 15 min
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:01] <magnachef> make sure the poller is running
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <magnachef> make sure the zenoss user is able to run that command
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:24] <deanwesterburg> when you say poller, you mean "zencommand"?
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:30] <deanwesterburg> I am testing as zenoss.
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:38] <deanwesterburg> user has the rights to run it.
[25-Apr-2008 20:12:43] <magnachef> I don't know the exact name of the process...but whatever is doing that
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:01] <deanwesterburg> zencommand is running. It is what runs the NAGIOS plugins from what I read.
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:14] <magnachef> hmmm
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:25] <magnachef> blame netware ;-)
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:38] <deanwesterburg> yea, that's what I've been saying for the last 2 days as I beat my head against the desk!
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:54] <deanwesterburg> I appreciate the help and verification....
[25-Apr-2008 20:13:57] <magnachef> I used to monitor a bunch of netware servers via Cacti
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:04] <magnachef> cacti has a host template for NW
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:19] <magnachef> you can probably get the load via SNMP
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:39] <deanwesterburg> We really like Zenoss and seeing that I can get the data via the "check_nwstat" command, I am sure we are close...
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:49] <twm1010> dean,
[25-Apr-2008 20:14:58] <deanwesterburg> hello twm1010
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:33] <twm1010> so you're trying to monitor netware eh
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:39] <deanwesterburg> yea...
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:51] <deanwesterburg> Still have some of those out there.
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:53] <twm1010> let me copy and paste my working template
[25-Apr-2008 20:15:56] <twm1010> i have 30 of'em
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:10] <deanwesterburg> OH! WOO HOO!!! Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou....
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:34] <magnachef> there ya go!
[25-Apr-2008 20:16:37] <deanwesterburg>
[25-Apr-2008 20:17:42] <twm1010> ok, for my first datasource, CPU Utilization, i run the following zencommand syntax
[25-Apr-2008 20:17:43] <twm1010> $$ZENHOME/Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H "${dev/manageIp}" -v LOAD5
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:02] <deanwesterburg> without any cleanup using SED or AWK?
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:22] <twm1010> the datasource i established to record said data, is just called load5 type is gauge, RRD max
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:34] <twm1010> that right there was a direct copy'n'paste
[25-Apr-2008 20:18:59] <deanwesterburg> ok.
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:34] <twm1010> another example, for tracking cache buffers
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:35] <twm1010> $$ZENHOME/Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H "${dev/manageIp}" -v CBUFF
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:43] <twm1010> datapoint is called Cachebuffers
[25-Apr-2008 20:19:59] <twm1010> also gauge type, no min or max
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:17] <twm1010> I myself am still trying to get a grip on where SNMP configurations are managed, it seems like some modules keep their own, like groupwise
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:25] <twm1010> yet still use the system settings to decide WHO to notify
[25-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <twm1010> but if you want to do an SNMPGET to say... monitor the post office for connections, groupwise needs to be configured for the right community
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:26] * magnachef is glad to be out of his previous Netware centric environment
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:41] <twm1010> I'm not chef, actually... all our shit works
[25-Apr-2008 20:22:55] <twm1010> seriously i've got a netware 6 server, serving up our intrnet, uptime is over 2yrs
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:01] <twm1010> intranet, that is
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:05] <deanwesterburg> haha
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:06] <magnachef> heh, true...it NW gets dogged more than it deserves
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:15] <magnachef> I did like GW
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:16] <twm1010> archaic? maybe, reliable, definitely
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:28] <twm1010> and i'll take Groupwise's reliability over exchange any day
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:33] <magnachef> agreed
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:40] <deanwesterburg> I am always amazed at how similar many pieces of linux and Netware are.
[25-Apr-2008 20:23:53] <deanwesterburg> and I love my linux!
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:03] <twm1010> yes... right now we're making plans to transition to OES2 Linux servers
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:22] <twm1010> we're simply stuck waiting on Novell to finish native linux support for apple file protocol
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:42] <deanwesterburg> I have several boxes that are netware and a NOWS SBE box too.. Works well.
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:43] <magnachef> interesting
[25-Apr-2008 20:24:46] <twm1010> since i can't convince the other geeks to simply use NFS on the Macs to get to our servers
[25-Apr-2008 20:25:03] <twm1010> or CIFS/Samba
[25-Apr-2008 20:26:37] <magnachef> yeah, that'd be easier
[25-Apr-2008 20:26:43] <deanwesterburg> Under my datapoint, should I be entering the command again? or will it know to run the command from the Data source?
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:25] <deanwesterburg> nevermind..
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <deanwesterburg> I got it !!! THANKS TWM1010!!
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:37] <malbon> has Matt Ray been in here today?
[25-Apr-2008 20:27:59] * magnachef shrugs
[25-Apr-2008 20:43:36] <twm1010> dean: no prob
[25-Apr-2008 20:43:45] <twm1010> i didn't have anyone help me the first time!
[25-Apr-2008 20:44:01] <twm1010> what a bastard it was too, i had no idea that he datapoints had to correlate to the output of the command
[25-Apr-2008 20:44:07] <twm1010> hehe
[25-Apr-2008 21:02:21] <deanwesterburg> Yea, I had a heck of a time. I had been watching for a post to your entry in the Forum..
[25-Apr-2008 21:02:43] <deanwesterburg> Thanks again.. It's 5 o'clock here. I'm heading home!
[25-Apr-2008 23:41:21] <creiht> howdy everyone
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[27-Apr-2008 20:01:53] <simprix> I added the oid's for the sonicwall cpu usage into zenoss. How can I get this stuff to be graphed like the interfaces
[27-Apr-2008 21:54:16] <garn32> what is the benifit to adding mibs to zenoss?
[27-Apr-2008 21:56:15] <garn32> hello anyone here?
[27-Apr-2008 22:03:34] <garn32> what is the benifit of adding mibs to zenoss?
[27-Apr-2008 22:40:53] <garn32> hello?
[27-Apr-2008 23:13:14] <garn32> anyone there?
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[28-Apr-2008 08:07:08] <MrTux> hi guys
[28-Apr-2008 08:07:55] <MrTux> i'm just wondering if you can help me, i've an old backupfile, and i need now some parts out of it, but in the file i have this date.fs file, and i'm wondering howto get manually data out of it
[28-Apr-2008 08:15:06] <nemo_> its a zeo db
[28-Apr-2008 08:15:19] <nemo_> the zeo db
[28-Apr-2008 08:38:46] <indika> can any of u guys help me to monitor a custom java process with zenoss
[28-Apr-2008 08:39:14] <indika> process can be view with "ps -x | grep java"
[28-Apr-2008 08:51:50] <nemo_> jmx?
[28-Apr-2008 08:53:24] <indika> Is there a way it can be done with regex?
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:10] <nemo_> indika, as a normal process yes, they work on regex's
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:20] <nemo_> but its very basic monitoring then
[28-Apr-2008 09:08:29] <nemo_> no perf, just is the process there or not
[28-Apr-2008 09:11:45] <indika> nemo, That enough for me... Can I know how to do that..
[28-Apr-2008 09:13:55] <indika> After creating a new process, do I have to add it to the device
[28-Apr-2008 09:15:44] <nemo_> no , if its seen running there , it will pick it up
[28-Apr-2008 09:15:58] <nemo_> ( you need snmp running )
[28-Apr-2008 09:16:21] <nemo_> then after that, it if sees it not running where it has previously run, it will generate an event
[28-Apr-2008 09:27:36] <indika> nemo, I tried it. But wasn't succeed. Anyway I ll tri again.. May be a prob with my regex. Thanx a lot
[28-Apr-2008 09:28:57] <indika> nemo, One more. can I monitor "c" process too with jmx
[28-Apr-2008 09:34:52] <nemo_> indika, try it and find out, i dont use it personally
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:10] <nemo_> regarding regex, just put in the name of the process
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:25] <nemo_> no real need for a regex unless the process name is strange
[28-Apr-2008 09:35:37] <nemo_> e.g. httpd for apache should work fine
[28-Apr-2008 09:36:34] <indika> nemo, ok thanx
[28-Apr-2008 09:39:24] <nemo_> nps
[28-Apr-2008 09:40:26] <nemo_> are there any logs where you can see whats happening with transforms ?
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[28-Apr-2008 09:52:38] <indika> I m getting lot of events from "/ÂStatus/ÂPing" saying "ip x.x.x.x is down".
[28-Apr-2008 09:54:54] <indika> But when I manually ping to x.x.x.x its replying. But with around 600ms seconds
[28-Apr-2008 09:55:23] <indika> Is there any way to set ping delay in Zenoss
[28-Apr-2008 10:18:34] <MrTux> nemo_: see in the logs/ directory, for trap transform you can see it in zentrap.log eg
[28-Apr-2008 10:51:31] <EekZ`> hi
[28-Apr-2008 10:52:59] <EekZ`> anyone alive?
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[28-Apr-2008 13:29:49] <nemo_> MrTux, what about an 'ordinary' transform ?
[28-Apr-2008 13:45:06] <EekZ`> ordinary?
[28-Apr-2008 14:05:17] <ckrough> anyone dealt with false "snmp agent down" alerts? Getting groups of them at random...
[28-Apr-2008 14:07:45] <nemo_> ckrough, never false, but yeh dealt with alot of em
[28-Apr-2008 14:08:03] <nemo_> snmpd agent down could mean a firewall or whatever is blocking it btw
[28-Apr-2008 14:08:44] <ckrough> IM fairly certain these are false, they are inconsistent and show for random switches on the same network
[28-Apr-2008 14:11:37] <twm1010> maybe there is a poll time you can back off some
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:03] <ckrough> you thinking it's just overloading and dropping packets?
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:07] <ckrough> its a large network
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:07] <twm1010> yes
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:16] <nemo_> the is an issue with some devices about the number of snmp data items
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:17] <twm1010> here you go
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:29] <twm1010> there is a zProperty for zSnpmTimeout
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:33] <nemo_> default setting is 40, i heard some cisco gear prefers 20
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:37] <twm1010> and zSnmpTries
[28-Apr-2008 14:12:46] <ckrough> yeah, were a cisco shop, we dropped to 20 a while back
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:02] <nemo_> ok .rgr that ;p
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:05] <ckrough> but I may try increasing the timeout and increasing the tries, it could just be that we are dropping pavkets
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:11] <ckrough> thank
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:14] <nemo_> no idea really then ckrough , not getting the issue here
[28-Apr-2008 14:13:23] <twm1010> isn't snmp primarily over UDP?
[28-Apr-2008 14:14:36] <ckrough> yeah. But it could still be missing snmp responses, right?
[28-Apr-2008 14:15:35] <nemo_> yep
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:08] <nemo_> all the more possible / less traceable with udp
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:33] <twm1010> Make small changes like the timeout/tries, and see if it helps
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:40] <ckrough> roger
[28-Apr-2008 14:16:48] <twm1010> maybe do it on just the /Network device class too
[28-Apr-2008 14:17:07] <twm1010> servers might be fine with stock settings
[28-Apr-2008 15:08:58] <twm1010> anyone good at troubleshooting Linux?
[28-Apr-2008 15:09:14] <ckrough> whats the problem?
[28-Apr-2008 15:09:45] <twm1010> i've got high CPU used by a python process
[28-Apr-2008 15:10:26] <twm1010> would like to see what exactly is causing it, though about stopping the zenoss daemons one at a time to see if that does anything
[28-Apr-2008 15:11:12] <twm1010> ah, there we are, its zenactions
[28-Apr-2008 15:12:57] <twm1010> server as a whole is holding about...55% CPU
[28-Apr-2008 15:15:04] <twm1010> Also, does the MySQL database for events need to be purged or cleaned up ever?
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[28-Apr-2008 18:19:04] <Blinny> I have two Dell 2900 servers. The server that runs zen does not show any disk usage information, but the other server does. How can I get Zen to map my localhost Dell box correctly?
[28-Apr-2008 18:20:37] <Blinny> On the local zen box, if I try to 'snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic localhost' I just get back 'End of MIB'
[28-Apr-2008 18:22:09] <_chris_> Blinny: check your /etc/snmpd/snmpd.conf and make sure the entire tree (.1) is returned
[28-Apr-2008 18:22:11] <_chris_> what distro?
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:18] <Blinny> Ubuntu Hardy
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:35] <Blinny> I have this: view systemview included .1
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:37] <_chris_> change the paranoid stuff to public
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:50] <_chris_> i think ubuntu has some paranoid setting in snmpd.conf
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:53] <_chris_> something like
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:58] <Blinny> I wiped that and used the zenoss example
[28-Apr-2008 18:25:59] <_chris_> i dunno - i can't remember.
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:01] <_chris_> ok
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:07] <_chris_> can you revert?
[28-Apr-2008 18:26:34] <Blinny> /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1fd5ed71
[28-Apr-2008 18:32:02] <Blinny> if I change 'view systemview included .1' to 'view all included .1' I get tons of returns on my snmpwalk
[28-Apr-2008 18:32:29] <_chris_> try and re-model localhost. your drives should show up
[28-Apr-2008 18:33:21] <Blinny> Yeah my drives now show up. That's odd.
[28-Apr-2008 18:34:56] <Blinny> Thanks _chris_
[28-Apr-2008 18:48:52] <backpackzakattak> Good morning, Zac here from MegaPath. I have a question about the Google Maps portlet
[28-Apr-2008 18:49:38] <backpackzakattak> I'm currently using the firefox extension ReloadEvery to reload the map, but was wondering if the next release would have a refresh function
[28-Apr-2008 19:03:31] <ckrough> I don't use that portlet, does it not refresh with the Dashboard refresh?
[28-Apr-2008 19:04:14] <backpackzakattak> No, the dashboard refreshes but not the Maps
[28-Apr-2008 19:06:01] <backpackzakattak> So for example a location would go red in the dashboard due to status poll failing
[28-Apr-2008 19:06:39] <backpackzakattak> but the map will stay green until you manually refresh it or you use a Firefox addon to refresh it every so often
[28-Apr-2008 19:09:33] <ckrough> ah
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:17] <backpackzakattak> I searched the forums and archives and there was no feature for it mentioned
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:38] <backpackzakattak> just that someone else was using a Firefox addon to do the reloads
[28-Apr-2008 19:16:43] <backpackzakattak> *refreshes
[28-Apr-2008 19:24:04] <twm1010> i could swear each portelet, including the maps, has its own refresh setting
[28-Apr-2008 19:25:25] <Blinny> I see 'Refresh Rate: 60' in my google map config
[28-Apr-2008 19:25:42] <backpackzakattak> Where is your config located
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[28-Apr-2008 19:28:18] <Blinny> I click the * on the top-right of the maps window
[28-Apr-2008 19:28:46] <Blinny> What looks like a 'close this window' button (;
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:29] <backpackzakattak> Interesting, I don't seem to have that button
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:33] <backpackzakattak> I'm running version 2.1
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:40] <backpackzakattak> are you running compiled from trunk?
[28-Apr-2008 19:31:56] <twm1010> all the portlets should have the button
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:20] <backpackzakattak> hmm..maybe i'm not looking at a portlet then
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:26] <backpackzakattak> I'm under /Locations
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:29] <backpackzakattak> and then under the Map tab
[28-Apr-2008 19:32:48] <twm1010> ah, he's talking about the google map portlet on the dashboard
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:02] <twm1010> my refresh is 60 too
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:33] <backpackzakattak> I see...Now I have the refresh properly setup after adding a portlet
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:39] <backpackzakattak> to the main dashboard
[28-Apr-2008 19:33:46] <backpackzakattak> this is better anyways
[28-Apr-2008 19:34:23] <backpackzakattak> I have it set to 10 now
[28-Apr-2008 19:34:45] <backpackzakattak> my RPM version of zenoss is 2.1.3
[28-Apr-2008 19:38:04] <backpackzakattak> Thanks guys
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:45] <_CitizenKane__> hi everyone, i'm trying to install zenoss on RHEL 5 and i'm running into problems when I get to the initialization step, i get the following errors
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:47] <_CitizenKane__> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:50] <_CitizenKane__> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[28-Apr-2008 20:12:56] <_CitizenKane__> anyone know how to fix this?
[28-Apr-2008 20:17:09] <ckrough> those are MySQL permission errors
[28-Apr-2008 20:17:45] <ckrough> you may have specified that users @ remote hosts can access your DB, but not users @ the locahost
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[28-Apr-2008 22:50:06] <idea4gud> hi anyout there
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[29-Apr-2008 09:14:12] <nemo_> morning
[29-Apr-2008 13:15:19] <indika> I m getting "status/ping" time-out alerts when the remote response time reaches some thing around 600ms
[29-Apr-2008 13:15:30] <indika> Is there any way to avoid it
[29-Apr-2008 13:18:02] <nemo_> not that i know of
[29-Apr-2008 13:18:17] <nemo_> 600ms is slow
[29-Apr-2008 13:21:06] <nemo_> \/Monitors /localhost
[29-Apr-2008 13:32:59] <indika> nemo, yes u correct. But the link from my site to the remote site is very slow
[29-Apr-2008 13:33:52] <indika> nemo, So it takes some thing around 600ms to response to ping s
[29-Apr-2008 13:51:21] <nemo_> indika, not sure but look at something like: :8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/StatusMonitors/localhost
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[29-Apr-2008 15:49:18] <garnica> hi people, I want to monitor performance of 4 processors on a windows 2003 server, I have added the template, data source and point source ... now when defining one of the graph points I have a field "Consolidation" wich is set to "AVERAGE"
[29-Apr-2008 15:50:19] <garnica> but I don't want an average of the values to be drawn, I want to see the values in the instant they are sampled, not the average...
[29-Apr-2008 15:51:12] <garnica> How can I set this "Consolidation" field so I get absolute values instead of an average ?
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[29-Apr-2008 16:16:49] <Tadaka> is anyone here monitoring windows 2008 with zenoss yet?
[29-Apr-2008 16:18:02] <Tadaka> I'm having trouble getting wmi and snmp to work properly, which I'm guessing is some security setting I have not found yet
[29-Apr-2008 16:35:38] <JVirus> Hello
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:22] <JVirus> Does anyone know what version of linux the Zenoss Windows vmware version is running?
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:39] <JVirus> I dont know linux and I need to go search for a list of commands and such for linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:36:51] <JVirus> but there are so many distributions
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:05] <JVirus> want to make sure I read up on the right one
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:27] <garnica> JVirus, try uname -a
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:33] <JVirus> ok
[29-Apr-2008 16:37:33] <JVirus> brb
[29-Apr-2008 16:39:17] <JVirus> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.19.7-0.4.gcc3.4x86i686 #1 Tue May 1 13:00:52 EDT 2007 i686 athalon i386 GNU/Linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:39:56] <JVirus> GNU?
[29-Apr-2008 16:40:27] <garnica> the linux version is 2.6.19.7-0.4.gcc3.4x86 i686
[29-Apr-2008 16:41:34] <JVirus> that brings up 0 results, GNU does though. Is GNU the distribution?
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:32] <JVirus> I found this: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/command_line_intro
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:44] <JVirus> ill try here to get started, I am so noob to linux
[29-Apr-2008 16:43:51] <adytum-bot> Title: A beginner’s introduction to the GNU/Linux command line (at www.freesoftwaremagazine.com)
[29-Apr-2008 16:44:02] <JVirus> if you have any suggestion I appreciate, and thanks for that command to find the distro
[29-Apr-2008 16:46:04] <garnica> you can find linux documentation in www.tldp.org
[29-Apr-2008 16:46:15] <garnica> no problem
[29-Apr-2008 16:51:46] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[29-Apr-2008 17:29:35] <locohost> baffle around?>
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:28] <Diz-X> ey guys!
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:32] <Diz-X> kind of new here..
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:49] <locohost> we dont like outsiders. Go away.
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:50] <locohost> just kidding
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:52] <locohost> welcome
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:55] <Diz-X>
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:56] <Diz-X> :: runs ::
[29-Apr-2008 17:40:59] <Diz-X> lol
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:08] <Diz-X> at first I want to thank for the great software!!
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:30] <Diz-X> I had it working in half an hour for 13 servers
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:31] <Diz-X>
[29-Apr-2008 17:41:55] <Diz-X> but :$ I have some small issues with setting up the mysqlmonitoring
[29-Apr-2008 17:42:49] <Diz-X> I get this error: MySQL Error: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'10.0.0.4' (using password: YES)")
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:05] <Diz-X> I have changed the password under ->Custom to my root password
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:11] <Diz-X> but didn't change a thing
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:40] <Diz-X> every tried to changed it hardcoded at the template lvl
[29-Apr-2008 17:43:41] <Diz-X> :S
[29-Apr-2008 17:44:46] <Diz-X> tested even on the prompt with mysql -u root -p -h xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[29-Apr-2008 17:44:58] <Diz-X> I can login and it works!
[29-Apr-2008 17:45:03] <Diz-X> but not in Zenoss :'(
[29-Apr-2008 17:46:38] <Diz-X> ${here/cMySqlRootPassword} is the varaible for mysql password isn't it?
[29-Apr-2008 17:51:06] <locohost> mysql is on localhost?
[29-Apr-2008 17:51:13] <locohost> or, this server is somewhere else?
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:00] <Diz-X> both
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:35] <Diz-X> I tried on the local where I run zenoss and tried on remote one with the correct privelagges zet
[29-Apr-2008 17:53:57] <Diz-X> MySQL Error: (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)")
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:08] <Diz-X> when I do mysql -u root -p -h 127.0.0.1
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:11] <Diz-X> It works
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:28] <Diz-X> but can't see what the password is that zenoss sends to client
[29-Apr-2008 17:54:35] <Diz-X> euuh server
[29-Apr-2008 17:55:41] <locohost> hmm, i havent done exactly what your doing, but i have a bit of experiance with both zenoss and mysql...wish there was a way to see what password it was sending..wonder if a special character is not excaping or something
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:05] <Diz-X> the password is just normal latin style
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:27] <Diz-X> no utf8
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:33] <Diz-X> no special chars
[29-Apr-2008 17:56:36] <Diz-X> just letters and digits
[29-Apr-2008 17:57:33] <locohost> can you connect to it with a z mysql method? do you have that adapter installed? (not sure that it is required for t his, but if that worked, or didnt work..might tell you something
[29-Apr-2008 17:57:57] <Diz-X> a z mysql method ?
[29-Apr-2008 17:58:52] <locohost> under the zope management interface, add a see if you have mysql database connection in the drop down of things to add
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:00] <locohost> if you dont, you have to install something to use it
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:08] <locohost> got a meeting, gl, ill be back later
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:30] <Diz-X> take care mate
[29-Apr-2008 17:59:33] <Diz-X> thanks for the help!
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:20] <Diz-X> well I give up for now
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:26] <Diz-X> I am off mates! will be back later her
[29-Apr-2008 18:06:27] <Diz-X> e
[29-Apr-2008 18:40:55] <rharrison> has anyone had an issue where network mounts are causing snmpwalk to timeout waiting on the df?
[29-Apr-2008 18:59:54] <magnachef> I've seen that issue before with other applications
[29-Apr-2008 19:00:09] <magnachef> sounds like you have an issue with your nfs mounts
[29-Apr-2008 19:29:35] <magnachef> I'm having weird issues with OS Processes
[29-Apr-2008 19:29:47] <magnachef> I have a regexp for xinetd
[29-Apr-2008 19:30:56] <magnachef> when it originally ran, it found one with name "xinetd" and one with "xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:02] <magnachef> randomly today, the "xinetd" process created an alert that "Process not running: xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:49] <magnachef> after doing an SNMP walk, I received the following lines:
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:53] <magnachef> and see what you get: http://yourhost:8080/zport/dmd/ZenUsers/admin/setDashboardState
[29-Apr-2008 19:32:53] <magnachef> <cappy> it says True
[29-Apr-2008 19:33:28] <magnachef> sorry, not sure what that was
[29-Apr-2008 19:34:36] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName.25458 = "xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:34:49] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunPath.25458 = "xinetd"
[29-Apr-2008 19:35:37] <magnachef> host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunParameters.25458 = "-stayalive -resuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid"
[29-Apr-2008 19:35:53] <magnachef> not sure why it's not finding xinetd process
[29-Apr-2008 19:51:55] <cgibbons> tada
[29-Apr-2008 20:54:56] <garn32> when i add a ups zenoss doesnt find any interfaces on the device, what gives?
[29-Apr-2008 20:57:43] <garn32> hello ... anyone there?
[29-Apr-2008 21:03:53] <Bulwinkle> garn32: what kind of UPS?
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:04] <garn32> liebert
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:21] <Bulwinkle> garn32: why would it have any interfaces?
[29-Apr-2008 21:04:30] <garn32> its a managed ups
[29-Apr-2008 21:06:40] <garnica> garn32: is the ups SNMP capable ? if so, you look for the mibs to upload them in the zenoss app
[29-Apr-2008 21:07:24] <garn32> I have added the liebert mibs and the the RFC_1628 mib
[29-Apr-2008 21:09:17] <KulM> Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction for using RPN on multi-graph definitions?
[29-Apr-2008 21:09:26] <KulM> everything I try gives an error
[29-Apr-2008 21:11:30] <garnica> garn32: look in the ups manual if you have to enable SNMP protocol in the ups, maybe a switch in the board of the ups, maybe you connect to the ups with a PC maybe a web administration
[29-Apr-2008 21:12:09] <garn32> the ups is located and all but after it is modled there are no interfaces displayed under the os tab for that device
[29-Apr-2008 21:12:23] <garnica> garn32: the point is, make sure the ups is SNMP enabled, and it is configured to send traps, or listen SNMP to the Zenoss host IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:17] <garn32> yes is is the device responeds to the snmpwalk generated from the UI and i have set up performance graphs that are working
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:28] <garnica> garn32: ok.... so the ups has ethernet interfaces ??
[29-Apr-2008 21:13:45] <garn32> yes it has one management interface
[29-Apr-2008 21:14:56] <garnica> garn32: ok... can you see the interface information when you use snmpwalk ??
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:15] <garn32> yes i can
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:39] <garnica> the interface section should start with "if"... like "ifInErrors", "ifOperStatus"...
[29-Apr-2008 21:15:44] <garn32> the only that is really out of place is the fact that the OID for interface description is blank
[29-Apr-2008 21:16:08] <garn32> other exist and and are listed values
[29-Apr-2008 21:16:29] <garnica> well.... there are ways to do this "manually"... let's see...
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:02] <garnica> In the left menu click "Devices"... several tabs appear.... select "templates"
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:17] <garn32> i can add the interface manually that is no problem but i was wondering why on the intinal modling this informaiton is not discovered
[29-Apr-2008 21:17:40] <garn32> sorry if i have not been clear
[29-Apr-2008 21:18:33] <locohost> i get stats off the management if of my apc pdu's, it shows up as "lance"
[29-Apr-2008 21:19:42] <locohost> really no point in having that though, the only traffic there is ganna be snmp traffic, do i really want to trend that"?
[29-Apr-2008 21:19:43] <garnica> mmm I would think that not all the marks follow a similar MIB structure....
[29-Apr-2008 21:20:52] <garn32> so perhaps its a problem with the mibs that i have loaded?
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:39] <KulM> anyone used RPN expressions with a mutli-graph?
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:44] <locohost> or the template you applied to it
[29-Apr-2008 21:21:46] <garnica> garn32: it may be..... I'm not so sure...
[29-Apr-2008 21:22:27] <garn32> hmmm... any advice on where i should start look or should i just give into inputting the interfaces manually
[29-Apr-2008 21:24:08] <locohost> maybe try modeling the device under linux, rather then pdu. maybe that is a dumb idea, but your linux template shuld try to trend ifs
[29-Apr-2008 21:25:12] <garn32> i have tried modling the ups under different classes but to no avail the interfaces still do not show
[29-Apr-2008 21:25:42] <locohost> why do you want if stats on the management? ..if you dont mind me asking
[29-Apr-2008 21:26:49] <garn32> its not so much that i want the stats on the interface but i need the the device to show up in the network map
[29-Apr-2008 21:27:27] <garn32> and with out having the device having an interface it doesnt show up on the network map so far as i have tested
[29-Apr-2008 21:29:00] <locohost> yar
[29-Apr-2008 21:34:30] <garn32> well i need to get going thank you for you time and help
[29-Apr-2008 21:37:48] <locohost> take care
[29-Apr-2008 21:46:53] <KulM> anyone created a custom graph definition using multi-graphs?
[29-Apr-2008 21:58:55] <KulM> so... is there a list of available variables for use in graph definitions?
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[29-Apr-2008 23:42:46] <locohost__> join #net-snmp
[29-Apr-2008 23:42:57] <locohost__> typo
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[30-Apr-2008 00:10:29] <zac_> ?
[30-Apr-2008 00:40:38] <cgibbons> hmm
[30-Apr-2008 01:16:10] <densone> I am looking for a sample snmp config for linux that zenoss will like. Anyone out there have a sample
[30-Apr-2008 03:58:05] <densone> couple zenoss questions
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:02] <densone> in zenoss 1.0
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:13] <densone> it basically sniffed all the processes on my servers
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:18] <densone> and showed what was running
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:26] <densone> I can figure out how to do this in 2
[30-Apr-2008 03:59:39] <_chris_> it's the same thing in zenoss 2
[30-Apr-2008 04:00:01] <_chris_> when we model a device we get a list of all the processes running on the box and we compare that against the regexes you have defined
[30-Apr-2008 04:00:09] <_chris_> if we get a hit we start monitor said process
[30-Apr-2008 04:01:06] <densone> hmm. I just remember 1.0 finding the processes automatically, and now its not finding anything
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:13] <densone> so I go to device list
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:26] <densone> then choose my db server
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:35] <densone> look under OS
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:48] <densone> then os processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:03:57] <_chris_> ya - you have to tell zenoss what OS processes you are interested in monitoring
[30-Apr-2008 04:04:05] <densone> I see
[30-Apr-2008 04:04:20] <densone> can you tell me where to set that
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:12] <_chris_> it's over on the left hand side
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:13] <_chris_> Browse By
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:15] <_chris_> Processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:05:16] <_chris_> i think
[30-Apr-2008 04:06:10] <densone> I see classes and processes
[30-Apr-2008 04:17:05] <densone> 2008-04-30 00:12:35 INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for state01
[30-Apr-2008 04:17:23] <densone> can someone tell me what portscan plugin to install
[30-Apr-2008 04:29:16] <densone> _chris_, any idea how I can fix this
[30-Apr-2008 04:29:16] <densone> 2008-04-30 00:12:35INFOzen.ZenModelerno portscan plugins found for state01
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[30-Apr-2008 10:28:02] <thefish> hello, i am getting a lot of graphs (not all) for snmp monitored devices with "nan" in all values, any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[30-Apr-2008 10:28:32] <thefish> i have recently upgraded, and im pretty sure i was getting graphs before
[30-Apr-2008 11:28:36] <Nemie> Hi, I'm trying to run zenoss on a vserver guest. The guest is a CentOS 5 on a fedora 8 host and I get this every time I try starting zenoss: http://pastebin.se/194396
[30-Apr-2008 11:28:44] <adytum-bot> Title: [ pastebin.se ] - (at pastebin.se)
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:00] <Nemie> I have net-snmp-utils, net-snmp, net-snmp-libs, net-snmp-devel intalled and I did build zenoss from zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:01] <nemo_> do you have nett-snmp installed?
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:06] <nemo_> oh ok ;p
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:34] <nemo_> AttributeError: /opt/zenoss/bin/python: undefined symbol: netsnmp_get_version
[30-Apr-2008 11:30:46] <nemo_> that does seem to point to a net-snmp issue tho
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:00] <Nemie> yeah, but what exactly?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:07] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:09] <nemo_> thats bad
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:17] <nemo_> how did you start zenoss the first time?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:29] <nemo_> seems like it didnt take its first time run hook
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:42] <nemo_> did you do /etc/init.d/zenoss start ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:31:56] <Nemie> that is the first try, this is the third guest I try to fix it on
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:07] <Nemie> no just service zenoss start
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:16] <nemo_> yeh thats the right way
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:33] <nemo_> basically its not installed properly if you get that error
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> #
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:34] <nemo_> Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:43] <nemo_> without zope it wont function
[30-Apr-2008 11:32:45] <Nemie> what did I do wrong then?
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:03] <Nemie> rpm -Uvh zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.i386.rpm
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:10] <nemo_> Uvh ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:25] <nemo_> that might be why, remove the rpm and do it again with ivh
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:28] <nemo_> not Uvh
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:32] <Nemie> ok
[30-Apr-2008 11:33:53] <Nemie> now, a stupid question, how do I remove a rpm??
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:03] <nemo_> rpm -e zenoss
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:27] <Nemie> what does the -e stand for? ( learn easier that way )
[30-Apr-2008 11:34:49] <nemo_> erase, man rpm will teach you far more than me btw ;p
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:09] <Nemie> hehe okay
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:20] <Nemie> I will try ivh, thanks
[30-Apr-2008 11:35:31] <nemo_> np, let me know how it goes
[30-Apr-2008 11:41:48] <Nemie> still the same problem...
[30-Apr-2008 11:41:55] <Nemie> I don't get it
[30-Apr-2008 11:42:35] <nemo_> well its kind of hard to diagnose from here,but my first zenoss install was like that
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:00] <Nemie> this is about my... ehm, 10th
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:07] <Nemie> none of them works
[30-Apr-2008 11:43:14] <Nemie> can't figure out why
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:28] <Nemie> Can it be that I am trying to install it into a vserver guest? or something, anything?
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:40] <nemo_> no i ihave one running in vmware
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:43] <nemo_> seems fine
[30-Apr-2008 11:44:55] <Nemie>
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:00] <nemo_> and i have seen that error before
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:08] <Nemie> I'm just trying to find some logical fail in this
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:14] <nemo_> its basically the first time script never gets run
[30-Apr-2008 11:45:36] <nemo_> which is what initializes zope etc
[30-Apr-2008 11:47:32] <Nemie> mm
[30-Apr-2008 11:54:05] <^dj^> hi eveyone! could someone recommend some good source on SMTP? I keep tripping over it...
[30-Apr-2008 11:55:41] <nemo_> ???
[30-Apr-2008 11:55:45] <nemo_> you mean snmp ?
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:31] <^dj^> haha
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:32] <^dj^> yes
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:40] <^dj^> sorry :-[
[30-Apr-2008 11:59:51] <nemo_> np, google on it tho
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:02] <nemo_> its pretty basic, until you get it, nothing will make sense
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:32] <^dj^> ah! i see
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:42] <^dj^> will keep at it, thanks ;-)
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:49] <nemo_> np
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:51] <nemo_> have fun
[30-Apr-2008 12:00:59] <^dj^> you bet
[30-Apr-2008 12:02:14] <Nemie> ok... I'm gonna give up, my httpd can't bind to anything...
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:06] <nemo_> httpd ?
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:12] <nemo_> whats that got to do with it ?
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:21] <nemo_> zenoss runs on zope, not httpd
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:34] <nemo_> id read up a bit
[30-Apr-2008 12:07:55] <Nemie> nah it's just that I need it for some other stuff
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:11] <Nemie> nothing seems to want to work, sshd works fine...
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:38] <nemo_>
your call , but i assure you zenoss does work[30-Apr-2008 12:08:54] <Nemie> then why doesn't it start
[30-Apr-2008 12:08:58] <Nemie> if it works
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[30-Apr-2008 15:14:41] daemoen is now known as aedamoen
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[30-Apr-2008 15:31:24] <twm1010> **crickets chirp**
[30-Apr-2008 15:32:33] <_chris_> *nods*
[30-Apr-2008 15:32:53] <twm1010> Not quite so chatty in here, as of late.
[30-Apr-2008 15:33:21] <densone> question: when I model a device, it says there are no portscan plugins. I installed nmap on my system
[30-Apr-2008 15:33:29] <densone> what else can I do to make it port map
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:05] <twm1010> is it receiving any SNMP data from the box?
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:25] <densone> yeah
[30-Apr-2008 15:34:41] <densone> processing zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap for device admin01
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:15] <densone> i just ran snmp walk
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:18] <densone> can I paste it somewhere?
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:38] <twm1010> but you get a good abit of data back, so your SNMP is working
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:45] <twm1010> what device class are you putting this server into?
[30-Apr-2008 15:35:56] <twm1010> the device class determines what collectors run against it
[30-Apr-2008 15:36:23] <densone> http://pastebin.com/d62f944f9
[30-Apr-2008 15:38:01] <densone> Linux
[30-Apr-2008 15:38:52] <twm1010> not sure then
[30-Apr-2008 15:39:00] <twm1010> mine only gives that message when SNMP is not configured right
[30-Apr-2008 15:40:09] <densone> twm1010, may I see you snmp config?
[30-Apr-2008 15:40:15] <densone> Maybe mine is ganked
[30-Apr-2008 15:46:10] <twm1010> I don't think your config is ganked, i think you're not really seeing a problem
[30-Apr-2008 15:46:28] <twm1010> did you set your community string at the class level or the device?
[30-Apr-2008 15:48:40] <densone> http://pastebin.com/m7f38ace7
[30-Apr-2008 15:48:45] <densone> my snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:07] <twm1010> ah, not on the server side, but the Zenoss side, is the device already added or not?
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:49] <twm1010> thats a pretty basic snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:49:56] <densone> yeah totally
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:07] <twm1010> it looks locked down too
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:07] <densone> the device is added
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:33] <twm1010> there is a little utility you can run through to configure snmpd.conf
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:40] <densone> really?
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:49] <densone> whats it called?
[30-Apr-2008 15:50:53] <twm1010> what OS?
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:44] <densone> ubuntu
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:47] <densone> linux
[30-Apr-2008 15:52:51] <densone> gutsy
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:05] <twm1010> ok, so cd over to /etc/snmp
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:08] <twm1010> and type snmpconf
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:22] <densone> yeah , I am looking at this tool now
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:42] <twm1010> make a backup of snmpd.conf first
[30-Apr-2008 15:53:56] <twm1010> the default utilizes a mechanism where it does authentication against a user account
[30-Apr-2008 15:54:03] <twm1010> i had no needs for such complexity, i ditched that entirely
[30-Apr-2008 15:54:28] <cgibbons> hurm
[30-Apr-2008 16:01:27] <densone> this snmpconf tool is pretty in-depth
[30-Apr-2008 16:01:37] <densone> anyone know where I can reference a simple sample
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:18] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:31] <peteb> i just lost access to my zenoss out of the blue
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:46] <twm1010> pete: is it a VM or a physical box?
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:53] <peteb> using 2.1.3. netstat shows nothing listening on 8080
[30-Apr-2008 16:03:55] <peteb> vm
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:08] <twm1010> are the zenoss daemons running?
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:11] <peteb> i see python processes on 8100, 8081, 8789
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:42] <twm1010> type zenoss status at the prompt
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:52] <peteb> http://mibbit.com/pb/Ee6BqW
[30-Apr-2008 16:04:59] <adytum-bot> Title: Mibbit: PasteBin (at mibbit.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:05:39] <peteb> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[30-Apr-2008 16:06:00] <peteb> i've tried restarting via `service zenoss restart`
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:22] <twm1010> densone: if you can wait until this person sorts out their bandwidth issues, this was a great article on SNMP for me
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:30] <twm1010> its focused on Mac, but its good all around
[30-Apr-2008 16:07:31] <twm1010> http://www.nonstopmac.com/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1_1.htm
[30-Apr-2008 16:08:13] <twm1010> zopectl won't start then
[30-Apr-2008 16:08:18] <twm1010> did you make any recent changes
[30-Apr-2008 16:09:25] <densone> thanks
[30-Apr-2008 16:09:54] <twm1010> do some googling though, you'll find some stuff
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:27] <densone> http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2007/12/a_primer_to_snmp_on_mac_os_x_1.html
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:32] <densone> found in google cache
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:34] <densone>
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:38] <twm1010> there ya go!
[30-Apr-2008 16:10:46] <adytum-bot> Title: bynkii.com: A Primer to SNMP on Mac OS X 10.5 and Mac OS X 10.5 Server (at www.bynkii.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:17] <twm1010> thats it! i tried to find it in my bookmarks and had to google it, i got a bad link i guess its a long damn read, but its
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:22] <twm1010> a really good explanation
[30-Apr-2008 16:11:43] <twm1010> if you want, you can skip to the section on using snmpconf
[30-Apr-2008 16:20:57] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 16:32:24] <peteb> i'm seeing this in my error logs:http://mibbit.com/pb/DeasRV
[30-Apr-2008 16:32:30] <adytum-bot> Title: Mibbit: PasteBin (at mibbit.com)
[30-Apr-2008 16:32:35] <peteb> database conflict errors
[30-Apr-2008 16:33:15] <peteb> i was actually just clicking through the interface when it died. no changes were being made
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:08] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:29] <densone> http://pastebin.com/d62f944f9 - so this snmpd config was actually pulled form the zenoss site
[30-Apr-2008 16:45:34] <densone> in their config
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:00] <densone> it used to work fine with zenoss 1.x for me
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:19] <densone> but, for some reason I am getting INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins found for db01
[30-Apr-2008 16:46:34] <densone> and cannot monitor ports like I used to
[30-Apr-2008 16:47:44] <densone> does anyone know what plugin its referring to?
[30-Apr-2008 16:56:28] <peteb> where is the mysql connection conf file?
[30-Apr-2008 16:59:27] <KulM> if you're looking for help you're probably in the wrong place... although I'm not sure what this chan is for if not for help
[30-Apr-2008 17:10:47] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 17:33:28] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 17:52:23] <twm1010> peteb: are you talking about how Zenoss talks to MySQL?
[30-Apr-2008 17:52:34] <twm1010> its done in the GUI methinks, under event manager
[30-Apr-2008 17:57:35] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 19:10:01] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 20:03:45] x-spec-t is now known as Spec
[30-Apr-2008 20:24:02] <densone> anyone here that can fill me in on this message? INFO zen.ZenModeler no portscan plugins
[30-Apr-2008 20:24:15] <densone> or how I can get more details to solve it
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