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[01-May-2009 06:33:13] <rocket> morning __ian__
[01-May-2009 07:43:47] <jmp242> hi all
[01-May-2009 09:35:45] <perr0> morning
[01-May-2009 09:37:27] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[01-May-2009 09:46:53] <jb> good morning
[01-May-2009 09:48:55] <rmatte> can anyone think of a way to allow regular users to execute 1 command only as Zenoss user?
[01-May-2009 09:49:16] <rmatte> and it has to apply to all users, not just specific ones
[01-May-2009 09:49:29] <jb> through a shell on the server?
[01-May-2009 09:49:36] <rmatte> correct
[01-May-2009 09:49:38] <jb> sudo?
[01-May-2009 09:50:00] <rmatte> I have sudo installed, no idea how I'd go about doing this though
[01-May-2009 09:50:18] <jb> you need to configure access in /etc/sudoers
[01-May-2009 09:50:24] <jb> look at the man page
[01-May-2009 09:50:36] <rocket> rmatte: it is pretty simple if you read the man page for sudo .. using the command visudo to edit the sudoers file
[01-May-2009 09:50:46] <rocket> rmatte: basically you put all the users in a group
[01-May-2009 09:50:59] <rocket> rmatte: assign the group the privledges you need
[01-May-2009 09:51:15] <rocket> by group I mean system group
[01-May-2009 09:51:16] <rmatte> so I could specify the users group for instance?
[01-May-2009 09:51:21] <rocket> yes
[01-May-2009 09:52:47] <rocket> system groups (prefixed with '%')
[01-May-2009 09:53:14] <rmatte> does that allow me to specify access to a specific command?
[01-May-2009 09:53:25] <rmatte> or would everyone effectively have zenoss level access?
[01-May-2009 09:53:40] <rocket> rmatte: you then specify the command
[01-May-2009 09:53:59] <rocket> rmatte: that is just the user specification you are defining that has access to that command
[01-May-2009 09:54:23] <jb> read the man page there are also examples in sudoers
[01-May-2009 09:54:36] <rmatte> I'm reading the man page, it's a long manpage
[01-May-2009 09:54:44] <jb> look at sudoers..
[01-May-2009 09:55:05] <rocket> rmatte: or hire a consultant .. for the most part this is pretty basic stuff
[01-May-2009 09:55:38] <rmatte> I'm aware that this is basic stuff
[01-May-2009 09:55:48] <rocket> http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20051025103428232
[01-May-2009 09:55:56] <rmatte> I just haven't had much experience with sudo other than simply granting full access to whoever
[01-May-2009 09:55:59] <adytum-bot> Title: AFP548 - Essential Sudoers (at www.afp548.com)
[01-May-2009 09:56:32] <rocket> found via a google search "sudoers group file access"
[01-May-2009 09:57:20] <mrayzenoss> depending on your platform, there may be a man page for just the conf file
[01-May-2009 09:57:35] <rmatte> rocket : thanks, exactly what I need
[01-May-2009 09:57:36] <mrayzenoss> that said, I can't reach my Debian box to check
[01-May-2009 09:57:59] <rocket> eg man sudoers
[01-May-2009 09:58:14] <mrayzenoss> yup
[01-May-2009 09:58:15] <rmatte> root@gen01:/home/rmatte# man sudoers.conf
[01-May-2009 09:58:17] <rmatte> No manual entry for sudoers.conf
[01-May-2009 09:58:21] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 09:58:23] <rmatte> that works
[01-May-2009 09:59:38] <jb> does zen do anything special for XEN?
[01-May-2009 09:59:50] <jb> i'll probably just add dom0 and the domU's as separate devices
[01-May-2009 10:00:02] <jb> there is no .conf
[01-May-2009 10:00:04] <jb> its just /etc/sudoers
[01-May-2009 10:00:15] <mrayzenoss> there's an Enterprise ZenPack for monitoring Xen
[01-May-2009 10:00:21] <jb> oh yeah?
[01-May-2009 10:00:21] <jb> hm
[01-May-2009 10:00:24] <jb> i'll check it out
[01-May-2009 10:02:48] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ping .. is chet around I have a quick 5 minute question to ask him regarding relationships
[01-May-2009 10:03:18] <mrayzenoss> I pinged him, I'll let you know
[01-May-2009 10:03:36] <rocket> Thanks
[01-May-2009 10:04:41] <mrayzenoss> thanks cluther
[01-May-2009 10:04:48] <cluther> What did I do?
[01-May-2009 10:05:00] <mrayzenoss> showed up? you not see my Skype?
[01-May-2009 10:05:37] <cluther> Oh.. I did.
[01-May-2009 10:06:00] <rocket> cluther: Hey Buddy
[01-May-2009 10:06:06] <rocket> cluther: quick question for ya
[01-May-2009 10:06:37] <rocket> cluther: I created modeler code to create nested dicts for this 2 level relationship stuff I am working on
[01-May-2009 10:07:10] <rocket> cluther: my question is for my custom function do I just need to create a manage_addfilesystem type method to create the new objects?
[01-May-2009 10:07:36] <rocket> and if thats the case where would I get the context information?
[01-May-2009 10:08:43] <cluther> rocket: The context is "here.relname"
[01-May-2009 10:08:53] <cluther> The context is the relation you're adding the object to.
[01-May-2009 10:09:02] <cluther> self.relname that is.
[01-May-2009 10:09:42] <rocket> ok .. but I would call the manage_add function from my subcomponent correct?
[01-May-2009 10:10:03] <cluther> Right.
[01-May-2009 10:10:07] <rocket> and I would need to create those I am assuming but I can use the filesystem one as a template ..
[01-May-2009 10:10:53] <rocket> sounds good .. thats what I thought .. but its nice to have confirmation
[01-May-2009 10:11:22] <cluther> There are a lot of ways to do it, but you seem to have hit upon the best one.
[01-May-2009 10:11:25] <rocket> cluther: thats all i needed .. thanks much ..
[01-May-2009 10:11:51] <rocket> cluther: oh wait
[01-May-2009 10:12:08] <rocket> cluther: say I have many pvs that go into one volume_group
[01-May-2009 10:12:39] <rocket> doing it this way will keep from creating multiple volume group objects of the same name right?
[01-May-2009 10:13:02] <rocket> eg hdisk2, hdisk3, hdisk4 all go to a datavg
[01-May-2009 10:13:11] <cluther> You are putting a vg relation right on the DeviceHW sub-class, right?
[01-May-2009 10:13:50] <rocket> yes there will be a relation for that on the physical volume sub-class
[01-May-2009 10:14:04] <rocket> a many to one relationship I am assuming
[01-May-2009 10:14:39] <rocket> container for the bottom level .. eg the physical volume
[01-May-2009 10:17:04] <cluther> What was the third type of object involved? You have VG and PV.. then what?
[01-May-2009 10:17:23] <jb> LV
[01-May-2009 10:17:33] <jb> then filesystem
[01-May-2009 10:17:50] <rocket> techically hdisk -> physical_volume(software_created) -> volume_group -> logical_volume -> filesystem
[01-May-2009 10:18:40] <rocket> even more technical lun-> lun_id -> vio -> vio_mapping -> hdisk ..
[01-May-2009 10:19:34] <cluther> hmm.. I don't know if this is a good map.
[01-May-2009 10:20:01] <cluther> What if you started with VG had two relations on it: PV and LV.
[01-May-2009 10:20:11] <cluther> Then PV had HD and LV had FS.
[01-May-2009 10:20:18] <rocket> cluther: that is the other way I was thinking
[01-May-2009 10:20:58] <cluther> This would keep you from having to create a lot of non-containing relations. You want to avoid those if you can since they're harder to maintain.
[01-May-2009 10:24:19] <rocket> so I am still a bit foggy on the difference between a containing rel and non-containing rel ..
[01-May-2009 10:26:02] <cluther> rocket: Oh yeah.. it's really quite simple. Every object in Zope must have a single primary path where it lives. A containing relation means that the objects contained within live HERE, and if they're deleted from this relation they are gone for good. A non-containing relation is a way to relate to other objects without making them live underneath you.
[01-May-2009 10:26:25] <cluther> So a device is contained within a DeviceClass, but it is not contained within a Location.
[01-May-2009 10:26:42] <rmatte> I was told that I could use d.getStatus("/") to get device status, but it always seems to show up as "0", even when a device is actually down
[01-May-2009 10:27:28] <rocket> cluther: I see ..
[01-May-2009 10:27:51] <cluther> rmatte: That is the appropriate call for a component, but no a device unfortunately.
[01-May-2009 10:27:58] <cluther> rmatte: Just use d.getStatus() instead.
[01-May-2009 10:28:37] <rocket> cluther: would a non containing relation be a way to link say a HardwareManagementConsole to say the physical machine it controls?
[01-May-2009 10:29:05] <rocket> so if I delete the HMC the physical machine information isnt lost
[01-May-2009 10:29:16] <rocket> or it moves from one hmc to another for example?
[01-May-2009 10:29:27] <cluther> rocket: yeah
[01-May-2009 10:30:33] <rocket> cluther: so I would have to call manage_addDevice(physical_machine) from my hmc then?
[01-May-2009 10:31:06] <rocket> like I am doing with my components basically .. but its not a containing relationship .. I think I got it ..
[01-May-2009 10:36:14] <rocket> cluther: thanks!
[01-May-2009 10:47:02] <rmatte> cluther : ah, thanks
[01-May-2009 10:48:55] <rmatte> ok, so now I have a bunch of zeros and a number (3909)
[01-May-2009 10:49:01] <rmatte> any way to interpret these?
[01-May-2009 10:49:11] <rmatte> like, what would be Down and what would be Up?
[01-May-2009 10:49:51] <rmatte> I just basically want to dump straight up/down status on devices
[01-May-2009 10:55:12] <rmatte> oh, all I can get is the number of events?
[01-May-2009 10:57:32] <cluther> Right. If > 0 you have some kind of issue.
[01-May-2009 10:57:50] <cluther> 0 = up, >0 = down
[01-May-2009 11:02:24] <rocket> cluther: nice job on the manufacturer patch ..
[01-May-2009 11:02:46] <cluther> rocket: It's still evolving.
[01-May-2009 11:03:01] <rocket> cluther: thats ok .. at least the ball is rolling
[01-May-2009 11:03:17] <rocket> cluther: I am just glad to have found some of its main issues ;p
[01-May-2009 11:04:00] <cluther> rocket: The actual bug fix that started all of this will definitely be in 2.4.
[01-May-2009 11:04:23] <cluther> rocket: I'm still pushing for all the new functionality stuff in 2.4.1.
[01-May-2009 11:13:48] <rocket> cluther: sweet
[01-May-2009 11:14:18] <rocket> cluther: I just need to create a fix so that I can extend graph point objects from a zenpack
[01-May-2009 11:14:40] <rocket> cluther: then I will be able to do everything I think I want from the zenpack ..
[01-May-2009 11:14:49] <rocket> cluther: thought that one is just a nice to have
[01-May-2009 11:17:34] <rmatte> yeh, but >0 doesn't necessarily mean down
[01-May-2009 11:18:10] <rocket> isnt there a getStatusString method?
[01-May-2009 11:21:39] <cluther> >0 means that there is an outstanding ping down event for the device.
[01-May-2009 11:21:42] <cluther> That seems down to me.
[01-May-2009 11:22:55] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ping
[01-May-2009 11:23:17] <mrayzenoss> yo
[01-May-2009 11:23:27] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I have an update for my point threshold class
[01-May-2009 11:23:32] <mrayzenoss> excellent
[01-May-2009 11:23:34] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I changed the graphing
[01-May-2009 11:23:45] <rocket> mrayzenoss: from a line .. to a comment below the graph
[01-May-2009 11:23:51] <rmatte> cluther : I have a device which is not actually down, I just have zeneventlog events for it
[01-May-2009 11:23:56] <rmatte> and it's still >0
[01-May-2009 11:24:07] <rmatte> so no, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is an outstanding ping event
[01-May-2009 11:24:33] <rocket> mrayzenoss: when I get a chance I will send it your way
[01-May-2009 11:24:47] <mrayzenoss> cool, you can check it into SVN if you want
[01-May-2009 11:24:54] <cluther> rmatte: Doh! You're right.
[01-May-2009 11:24:59] <cluther> rmatte: d.getPingStatus()
[01-May-2009 11:25:04] <rmatte> ahhhh
[01-May-2009 11:25:06] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 11:25:09] <cluther> sorry about that.
[01-May-2009 11:25:13] <rmatte> all good
[01-May-2009 11:25:16] <rmatte> thanks for the help
[01-May-2009 11:56:33] <rmatte> hmmm, what does a -1 value mean then?
[01-May-2009 11:56:34] <rmatte> lol
[01-May-2009 12:05:58] <cluther> rmatte: That the device isn't being ping monitored for some reason. Decommissioned, zPingMonitoreIgnore set to true..
[01-May-2009 12:06:10] <rmatte> ohhh
[01-May-2009 12:06:12] <rmatte> cool
[01-May-2009 13:26:58] <rmatte> well, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
[01-May-2009 13:27:02] <rmatte> added this to sudoers:
[01-May-2009 13:27:04] <rmatte> %users ALL = NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:27:09] <rmatte> but it's still prompting for password
[01-May-2009 13:28:55] <cluther> Is your user in the users group?
[01-May-2009 13:29:24] <rocket> rmatte: type "groups" as that user to find out
[01-May-2009 13:30:03] <rocket> rmatte: might have to logout and login for the changes to take effect if you have made them recently... ie groups are only set on login ...
[01-May-2009 13:30:04] <rmatte> bah, we're using LDAP accounts, I thought that it was configured to have that group as part of users but apparently not
[01-May-2009 13:30:27] <rmatte> I think I have another group that I can use...
[01-May-2009 13:30:43] <chudler> could setuid do this ? chmod u+s /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:31:14] <chudler> or unless root privs is required to run your script?
[01-May-2009 13:32:11] <rmatte> well, I need to run with root privs so that I can do a "su - zenoss"
[01-May-2009 13:32:20] <rmatte> because otherwise I can't run my zendmd script properly
[01-May-2009 13:32:42] <rmatte> since it doesn't run with the right environment variables
[01-May-2009 13:33:12] <chudler> zenoss user environment is easily synthesized source ~zenoss/.profile or something.
[01-May-2009 13:34:05] <chudler> but I could be missing something. Never done it :-)
[01-May-2009 13:34:28] <rmatte> could me in .bash_rc or something
[01-May-2009 13:34:31] <cluther> chudler: That does work well. You just need to be careful with any files that are created as a result of your script. They'll be owned by the user that the script runs as.
[01-May-2009 13:34:31] <rmatte> be*
[01-May-2009 13:34:44] <cluther> yeah.. ~zenoss/.bashrc
[01-May-2009 13:36:04] <rmatte> hmmm, according to the manpage I should be able to use one of my LDAP groups in the sudoers file
[01-May-2009 13:36:08] <rmatte> but it doesn't appear to be working
[01-May-2009 13:36:15] <rmatte> %NOCStaff ALL = NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:40:39] <rocket> change the % to +
[01-May-2009 13:40:46] <rocket> +NOCStaff
[01-May-2009 13:41:00] <rocket> I think its a netgroup coming from ldap .. not a localgroup
[01-May-2009 13:41:16] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 13:42:52] <rmatte> ok, this line in the same file is an LDAP group...
[01-May-2009 13:42:54] <rmatte> %Administrators ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01-May-2009 13:42:59] <rmatte> and it's working perfectly fine
[01-May-2009 13:44:15] <rmatte> oh, I think I know why it appears to not be working
[01-May-2009 13:44:24] <rocket> %NOCStaff ALL = zenoss NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:44:50] <rocket> ALL machines ... become zenoss user ... NOPASSWD
[01-May-2009 13:44:57] <rocket> missing an entry
[01-May-2009 13:53:06] <rmatte> nope
[01-May-2009 13:53:17] <rmatte> you're referring to /var/log/messages I assume?
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rmatte> ah and syslog
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rocket> sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rmatte> both are clean
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> on any system as any user and get a list of things (if any) that you are allowed to do.
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> root@lab01:/var/log# sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> User root may run the following commands on this host:
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> (ALL) ALL
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> that's all it says
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> rmatte: you have to be the user to run sudoe
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> become a user other than root
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> oh
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rocket> sudo means basically become root
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rocket> super user do
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> noctest@lab01:~$ sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> User noctest may run the following commands on this host:
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> (ALL) NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:53:39] <rocket> so noctest can become any suer and run that script without a password
[01-May-2009 13:53:43] <rocket> user
[01-May-2009 13:53:52] <rocket> change all to zenoss now and try again
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> noctest@lab01:~$ /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> Password:
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> su: Authentication failure
[01-May-2009 13:54:14] <rmatte> why can't I run the script without being prompted though?
[01-May-2009 13:54:39] <cluther> rmatte: Preface the command with sudo.
[01-May-2009 13:54:51] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 13:54:57] <rmatte> stupid me
[01-May-2009 13:54:59] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 13:55:07] <rocket> rmatte: works now?
[01-May-2009 13:55:10] <rmatte> yeh
[01-May-2009 13:55:27] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 14:11:45] <gemineye> mrayzenoss, you around?
[01-May-2009 14:11:51] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:12:34] <gemineye> I'm inching closer and closer to getting my company to upgrade to Enterprise, but before they do that they asked me to install core on a beefier box. I'm seeing some weird behavior
[01-May-2009 14:14:14] <gemineye> When I add a Windows system to the older server by default starts monitoring all the Win Services and alerts on the ones that aren't running. The new box by default has all the Win Services disabled.
[01-May-2009 14:14:56] <gemineye> Also when I try and do a bulk enable monitoring, it doesn't work, but it will do a bulk disable monitoring. Both servers are running 2.3 but the new box was a clean install where the old one was an upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3
[01-May-2009 14:15:44] <gemineye> thoughs?
[01-May-2009 14:16:14] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I grabbed cgibbons to take a look
[01-May-2009 14:16:17] <cgibbons> ¿que?
[01-May-2009 14:16:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll PM him your posts
[01-May-2009 14:16:27] <gemineye> ok
[01-May-2009 14:17:22] <gemineye> I had a problem with 2.2 where enabling bulk selection of services to be either enabled or disabled didn't work but thought it was fixed with 2.3.
[01-May-2009 14:17:26] <cgibbons> yeah the whole bulk monitoring GUI was broken in several places, so that's been fixed now, lemme see what ticket
[01-May-2009 14:17:41] <jb> bulk monitoring?
[01-May-2009 14:17:48] <jb> like selecting several services at once and enabling/disabling?
[01-May-2009 14:18:19] <gemineye> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:18:33] <gemineye> as opposed to going to each one and setting monitoring to True or False.
[01-May-2009 14:19:02] <cgibbons> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4423 was the defect
[01-May-2009 14:19:28] <cgibbons> and it isn't in 2.3.3, just in the upcoming 2.4.0
[01-May-2009 14:19:40] <cgibbons> not that it couldn't be patched manually
[01-May-2009 14:21:52] <chudler> cgibbons: 2.3.3 has that defect?
[01-May-2009 14:22:11] <gemineye> Any thoughts on why my new server sets all Win Services to be not monitored by default where the older install is the exact opposite?
[01-May-2009 14:22:13] <cgibbons> all versions prior to 2.4.0 have it
[01-May-2009 14:22:32] <chudler> INTERESTING! that sort-of explains something...
[01-May-2009 14:24:04] <chudler> I'd been having this problem, and even have a support ticket open on it, but I am not positive that my method was exactly the same as the ticket (bulk-selection).
[01-May-2009 14:24:16] <cgibbons> not sure about what sets the default behavior to be monitored or not hmmmm lemme see
[01-May-2009 14:28:41] <gemineye> I've got another one for you. What determines if a color dot on the map changes? Some of my systems with yellow statuses don't display on the map but when I do a mouseover of the dot it does show there are non-green issues at that location.
[01-May-2009 14:29:47] <mrayzenoss> the devices on the map have been added to a location
[01-May-2009 14:30:31] <gemineye> All my devices are assigned to a location. Just some times the location dot doesn't change from green when there's an issue at that location.
[01-May-2009 14:31:03] <gemineye> I think I figured it out
[01-May-2009 14:31:43] <gemineye> It only updates the dot for systems in a Production State
[01-May-2009 14:32:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think that some of the prod states removes things from the dashboard
[01-May-2009 14:35:44] <gemineye> Too bad the prod states don't effect the Top Level Organizer portlet. It would be nice to only see production states listed there too.
[01-May-2009 14:44:57] <cluther> gemineye: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4777
[01-May-2009 14:46:13] <cluther> gemineye: Oh.. wait, there is another ticket for this too. It has been fixed for the upcoming 2.4 release.
[01-May-2009 14:46:49] <michaelbuckbee> anyone know if it's ok to use the Debian stack installer on Ubuntu? I tried it and it seemed to work ok (no errors) in install, but I can't determine if the webserver is running
[01-May-2009 14:48:08] <mrayzenoss> michaelbuckbee: yeah, that's supported
[01-May-2009 14:48:19] <mrayzenoss> there's not webserver, it's zope
[01-May-2009 14:48:28] <mrayzenoss> so hit http://yourhost:8080/
[01-May-2009 14:49:07] <michaelbuckbee> I must not have gotten enough sleep last night, didn't see the port listing in the admin pdf
[01-May-2009 14:49:36] <michaelbuckbee> Is there a "getting started guide" or something? Trying to save you from having to deal with my pestering questions
[01-May-2009 14:49:36] <rocket> cluther: ping
[01-May-2009 14:49:37] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.relname, hd4)
[01-May-2009 14:49:37] <gemineye> cool
[01-May-2009 14:49:38] <rocket> AttributeError: relname
[01-May-2009 14:50:15] <mrayzenoss> michaelbuckbee: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[01-May-2009 14:50:24] <mrayzenoss> 3rd link, Getting Started With Zenoss
[01-May-2009 14:50:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 14:50:34] <cluther> rocket: I meant the actual name of the relation, like self.vgs
[01-May-2009 14:51:29] <rocket> so self.volumegroup ? and that is the name in the _relation entry?
[01-May-2009 14:51:50] <cluther> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:52:52] <rocket> trying that now
[01-May-2009 14:57:58] <rocket> cluther: how do I get the object back from manage_add etc so that I can set additional attributes for it?
[01-May-2009 15:00:49] <cluther> vg = self.volumegroup._getOb('vgId')
[01-May-2009 15:02:19] <rocket> cluther: basically I can add a "return lv" to manage_addLogicalVolume also?
[01-May-2009 15:04:10] <rocket> cluther: I am really really close now
[01-May-2009 15:04:15] <rocket> but getting this error
[01-May-2009 15:04:18] <rocket> ZenSchemaError: volumegroup restricted to class AIXVolumeGroup. hd4 is class AIXLogicalVolume
[01-May-2009 15:04:26] <rocket> from the call
[01-May-2009 15:04:27] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.volumegroup, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:04:49] <rocket> relationship error you think?
[01-May-2009 15:09:15] <cluther> That code makes it look like you're adding an LV to the VG relation. You'd want to add the VG to the VG relation.
[01-May-2009 15:10:50] <rocket> I think I really wanted manage_addLogicalVolume(self.logicalvolume, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:11:36] <cluther> Yeah.
[01-May-2009 15:12:07] <rocket> grr .. now it wants _setObject from somewhere ..
[01-May-2009 15:13:07] <rocket> or my context of self.logicalvolume does not have _setObject in it
[01-May-2009 15:15:15] <rocket> cluther: so does the line
[01-May-2009 15:15:17] <rocket> ('logicalvolume', ToOne(ToOne, 'ZenPacks.community.AIX.AIXLogicalVolume', 'volumegroup')),
[01-May-2009 15:15:38] <rocket> automatically create self.logicalvolumes inside of the volumegroup class?
[01-May-2009 15:16:16] <cluther> exactly
[01-May-2009 15:16:36] <rocket> then why would it be complaining about _setObject .. :/
[01-May-2009 15:17:03] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.logicalvolume, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:17:03] <rocket> File "/home/zenoss/ZenPacks/ZenPacks.community.AIX/ZenPacks/community/AIX/AIXLogicalVolume.py", line 13, in manage_addLogicalVolume
[01-May-2009 15:17:06] <rocket> context._setObject(lvid, lv)
[01-May-2009 15:17:09] <rocket> AttributeError: _setObject
[01-May-2009 15:17:27] <rocket> missing an import maybe?
[01-May-2009 15:17:34] <cluther> oh.. oops. Did you create that relation on your DeviceHW subclass or Device subclass?
[01-May-2009 15:17:55] <cluther> Wait.. that doesn't matter.
[01-May-2009 15:18:04] <rocket> its actually under OperatingSystem
[01-May-2009 15:18:06] <cluther> These ToOne relations are a bit different.
[01-May-2009 15:18:33] <rocket> os -> volumegroup -> logicalvol
[01-May-2009 15:19:00] <rocket> cluther: change it to a ToManyCont?
[01-May-2009 15:19:48] <cluther> That seems to fit the bill better in this case.
[01-May-2009 15:20:02] <cluther> Since a VG can have many LVs, and this is the primary path to the LVs.
[01-May-2009 15:20:50] <rocket> trying that to see if it resolves my issue
[01-May-2009 15:21:19] <cluther> ("logicalvolumns", ToManyCont(ToOne, "ZenPacks.community.AIX.AIXLogicalVolume", "volumegroup")),
[01-May-2009 15:21:45] <rocket> cluther: yup already have that in there
[01-May-2009 15:21:50] <rocket> just restarting zenoss
[01-May-2009 15:22:47] <rocket> cluther: woohoo .. my simple example worked
[01-May-2009 15:23:06] <rocket> /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/AIX/LPAR/devices/en1nims61.mikl.com/os/volumegroup/nimvg/logicalvolume/hd4
[01-May-2009 15:23:51] <rocket> thanks! .. now to just make the code dynamic .. eg parsing the dict to get the real values into there ..
[01-May-2009 15:24:07] <rocket> and build the web template pages to use the information properly
[01-May-2009 15:24:43] <jb> man
[01-May-2009 15:24:47] <jb> this functionality would be awesome
[01-May-2009 15:24:54] <jb> espeically if we can get it via SSH
[01-May-2009 15:25:16] <jb> so, are you actually creating a new table in the "OS" tab that displays these relationships?
[01-May-2009 15:25:26] <rocket> jb: yes
[01-May-2009 15:25:33] <jb> awesome
[01-May-2009 15:25:38] <jb> if you need me to do any testing, just let me know
[01-May-2009 15:25:38] <rocket> jb: I am overriding the default screens
[01-May-2009 15:26:05] <rocket> jb: it should be one of the most complete zenpacks I know from a code example standpoint also
[01-May-2009 15:26:06] <jb> is the code modular enough to make it use SSH for the modeling?
[01-May-2009 15:26:32] <rocket> jb: should be .. just would need to define new templates and a different modeller
[01-May-2009 15:26:32] <jb> it could be something that the zenoss dev's might want to integrate as well
[01-May-2009 15:26:55] <rocket> jb: its a possibility ..
[01-May-2009 15:27:07] <jb> i know that kells had talked about this before..
[01-May-2009 15:27:33] <rocket> basically I am upgrading his beta aix zenpack .. fixing the things that made it beta ..
[01-May-2009 15:27:52] <rocket> jb: eg relevant cpu info
[01-May-2009 15:28:02] <rocket> jb: relevant paging info etc
[01-May-2009 15:28:27] <rocket> jb: lun ids etc on the info pages ...
[01-May-2009 15:28:27] <jb> and it ONLY uses the aix snmpd?
[01-May-2009 15:28:29] <jb> not net-snmp?
[01-May-2009 15:29:34] <rocket> jb: so far aixsnmpd only
[01-May-2009 15:29:40] <jb> with ptx
[01-May-2009 15:29:43] <jb> im assuming?
[01-May-2009 15:30:02] <rocket> jb: yeah .. still working out the ptx notes etc for the install guide part of it etc ..
[01-May-2009 15:30:07] <jb> oh ok nice
[01-May-2009 15:30:25] <jb> this could possibly keep me from switching to SSH for aix
[01-May-2009 15:30:29] <jb>
[01-May-2009 15:30:40] <rocket> jb: my company likes to keep supported stuff if at all possible .. eg under ibm support ...
[01-May-2009 15:30:50] <jb> yeah
[01-May-2009 15:31:30] <jb> does the aix mib provide any IO stats?
[01-May-2009 15:31:37] <jb> i can't remember..
[01-May-2009 15:32:28] <rmatte> hey, I wrote a python script to dump device UP/DOWN status, but when I use tabs the formatting gets all jumbled based on the length of the device name
[01-May-2009 15:32:43] <rmatte> any quick way around that that someone knows of?
[01-May-2009 15:35:58] <cluther> print "%40s %s" % (d.id, (d.getPingStatus() == 0) and "UP" or "DOWN")
[01-May-2009 15:38:27] <rmatte> ummm, ok wow lol
[01-May-2009 15:38:44] <rmatte> I also want to filter out decommed devices and display the management IP
[01-May-2009 15:39:01] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m2003bb3b
[01-May-2009 15:39:04] <rmatte> there's the script so far
[01-May-2009 15:39:12] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-May-2009 15:39:19] <rmatte> ignore the %40, I tried just adding that but it didn't work lol
[01-May-2009 15:42:49] <rmatte> oh, that throws spacing in front
[01-May-2009 15:42:57] <rmatte> any way to throw spacing behind?
[01-May-2009 15:45:30] <rmatte> I want the spacing between the device name and the IP address to be variable
[01-May-2009 15:47:02] <rmatte> ah, I guess I just put it on the second instead of the first
[01-May-2009 15:47:41] <rmatte> hmmm, nope
[01-May-2009 15:48:21] <gemineye> cgibbons: Were you able to find anything to indicate the default monitoring method of Win Services?
[01-May-2009 15:48:36] <jb> anybody here done any integration with other databases or applications?.. looking to pull data out of zope (server name, asset tag, etc) and import into a microsoft sharepoint site..
[01-May-2009 15:49:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: I did a deki mashup
[01-May-2009 15:49:54] <jb> hmm
[01-May-2009 15:49:57] <mrayzenoss> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[01-May-2009 15:50:07] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[01-May-2009 15:50:32] <jb> i'll check that out
[01-May-2009 15:50:32] <jb> thanks
[01-May-2009 16:03:55] <rocket> ok .. cooking with fire now
[01-May-2009 16:04:03] <rocket> cluther: thanks for the pointers today
[01-May-2009 16:04:13] <rmatte> cluther : finally figured it out: print "%-30s %-30s %s" % (d.id, d.manageIp, status)
[01-May-2009 16:04:19] <rmatte> looks awesome
[01-May-2009 16:04:23] <rmatte> thanks for putting me on track
[01-May-2009 16:27:14] <rmatte> there we go, zendump script has been deployed to all servers, booyeh
[01-May-2009 16:35:48] <kisielk> okay, so my XMLRPC question is, is it possible to get information about a device like its production state etc. through XMLRPC ?
[01-May-2009 16:48:51] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07.html#id398769
[01-May-2009 16:48:56] <mrayzenoss> productionState
[01-May-2009 16:49:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 16:49:33] <kisielk> okay, how do I actually query it through?
[01-May-2009 16:49:56] <kisielk> *though
[01-May-2009 16:50:52] <kisielk> I guess I need to make scripts in dmd ?
[01-May-2009 16:53:13] <mrayzenoss> here's an example of a Python script for getting if something exists, you could check that exists and then get the productionState
[01-May-2009 16:53:13] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07s04.html#devmgmt_programmatically_existance_python
[01-May-2009 16:53:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 16:53:57] <mrayzenoss> or http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07.html#devmgmt_programmatically_adding_python
[01-May-2009 16:54:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 17:14:01] <kisielk> hm okay
[01-May-2009 17:14:09] <kisielk> don't know what the method for getting productionState is
[01-May-2009 17:23:39] <cluther> kisielk: Something like this..
[01-May-2009 17:23:57] <cluther> from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
[01-May-2009 17:24:18] <cluther> s = ServerProxy("http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/centos32")
[01-May-2009 17:24:19] <adytum-bot> cluther: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[01-May-2009 17:24:21] <cluther> s.getProdState()
[01-May-2009 17:24:29] <kisielk> ah, getProdState
[01-May-2009 17:24:38] <kisielk> is there somewhere that has a list of all the methods?
[01-May-2009 17:24:45] <cluther> sure.
[01-May-2009 17:24:47] <kisielk> or do I need to just dig in to the source?
[01-May-2009 17:25:25] <cluther> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.3/ZenModel.Device.Device-class.html
[01-May-2009 17:25:35] <cluther> That's the API doc for the Device class.
[01-May-2009 17:25:35] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenModel.Device.Device (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 17:26:07] <cluther> You can see that Device inherits the getProdState method from the DeviceResultInt class.
[01-May-2009 17:26:30] <cluther> So in some ways, the API docs are better because you don't have to manually hunt through the inheritance tree.
[01-May-2009 17:27:31] <kisielk> good point
[01-May-2009 17:27:51] <kisielk> is there a way to access the search through XML-RPC? I'd like to look up devices by name alone, instead of by the full path
[01-May-2009 17:28:54] <kisielk> or do I have to write my own script in dmd for that?
[01-May-2009 17:29:04] <cluther> hmm.. I think there's a way, one sec.
[01-May-2009 17:29:59] <kisielk> I don't like the idea of having to remember the path of everything, it can change any time, and devices should have a unique name anyway
[01-May-2009 17:30:19] <kisielk> so for an external system linking in to Zenoss, it's nice to just be able to look them up by name
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> baseUrl = "http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080"
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> s = ServerProxy(baseUrl + "/zport/dmd/Devices")
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> devicePath = s.findDevicePath("centos32")
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> s = ServerProxy(baseUrl + devicePath)
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> print s.getProdState()
[01-May-2009 17:31:30] <kisielk> nice
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[03-May-2009 21:15:19] <UNIX_USENIX> I am getting reports tell me SSH is down. I confirm that it is up and running. I am configured to monitor these hosts by SNMP. Is there a solution to this?
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[04-May-2009 09:06:53] <rmatte> good morning guys, I have a script that dumps out the device ID, Management IP, and ping status for each device on a Zenoss box, I was wondering if anyone knows how it would be possible to add a column with the last state change on the device?
[04-May-2009 09:09:07] <cluther> getLastChangeString
[04-May-2009 09:09:14] <cluther> d.getLastChangeString()
[04-May-2009 09:11:26] <rocket> morning cluther
[04-May-2009 09:14:47] <rmatte> thanks
[04-May-2009 10:38:43] <rmatte> hey cluther, does that actually reflect the last time the ping status on a device changed?
[04-May-2009 10:38:48] <rmatte> or is that like config change?
[04-May-2009 10:38:58] <rmatte> rmatte@gen01:~$ zendump | grep DOWN
[04-May-2009 10:38:58] <rmatte> GP02RICv001 10.17.0.100 DOWN 2009/04/20 14:29:02
[04-May-2009 10:39:08] <rmatte> that device just went down and the status timestamp didn't update
[04-May-2009 10:39:51] <rmatte> yeh, looks like that's the status of the last time that devices were modeled
[04-May-2009 10:40:10] <rmatte> I was looking for actual status of like, the last time they changed from up to down, or down to up
[04-May-2009 10:42:57] <rmatte> I guess I could technically use getLastPollSnmpUpTime, but that's not 100%
[04-May-2009 10:43:06] <rmatte> is there something like getLastPollPing?
[04-May-2009 10:44:55] <rmatte> snmpLastCollection actually I guess would make the most sense
[04-May-2009 10:47:12] <rmatte> ok, and that one doesn't work either
[04-May-2009 10:47:13] <rmatte> grrrr
[04-May-2009 10:48:08] <rmatte> guess there's no easy way to do this, crappy
[04-May-2009 10:48:28] <cluther> hmm.. there may be one decent way if you're also SNMP monitoring the devices.
[04-May-2009 10:48:40] <rmatte> I'm SNMP monitoring the majority
[04-May-2009 10:50:05] <cluther> import time
[04-May-2009 10:50:10] <cluther> now = time.time()
[04-May-2009 10:50:33] <cluther> lastOutage = time.time() - (d.sysUpTime()/100)
[04-May-2009 10:50:58] <rmatte> hmm, looks pretty decent, I'll try it out
[04-May-2009 10:53:29] <rmatte> ummm, it outputs it like 1233853473.81
[04-May-2009 10:53:36] <rmatte> any way to format that in to a regular date?
[04-May-2009 10:55:02] <rmatte> (a quick way I mean, without me having to write some big procedure)
[04-May-2009 10:56:59] <rmatte> because time.time() simply returns the time in seconds since the epoch UTC
[04-May-2009 10:59:07] <rmatte> actually, that doesn't work at all
[04-May-2009 10:59:15] <rmatte> that only shows the time since the last actual reboot
[04-May-2009 10:59:24] <rmatte> not since the last time the node became unreachable
[04-May-2009 10:59:40] <cluther> Doh.. true.
[04-May-2009 10:59:41] <rmatte> like, what if a network circuit goes down and we lose connectivity, that's the time/date we want to see
[04-May-2009 11:00:07] <cluther> We'd need some kind of method to find the last ping down event in history.
[04-May-2009 11:00:14] <cluther> That doesn't currently exist
[04-May-2009 11:00:48] <rmatte> crappy
[04-May-2009 11:00:50] <rmatte> oh well
[04-May-2009 11:24:28] <rmatte> or have some method to set some sort of zope value each time the device is either ping up or ping down
[04-May-2009 11:24:34] <rmatte> would come in handy
[04-May-2009 11:56:02] <rmatte> does Zenoss gather it's uptime info based on the sysUpTime datapoint in Device templates?
[04-May-2009 11:56:22] <rmatte> or can it be the sysUpTime datapoint in any template?
[04-May-2009 11:56:45] <rmatte> It's gathering uptime info perfectly fine for all of the network equipment that I'm monitoring but not for any of the windows boxes
[04-May-2009 12:07:42] <cluther> rmatte: Any datapoint named sysUpTime will be used. It doesn't matter which template collects it.
[04-May-2009 12:09:06] <rmatte> awesome
[04-May-2009 12:09:07] <rmatte> thanks
[04-May-2009 12:14:54] <rmatte> weird, now I'm getting a Zenoss Error every time I go to a device's templates page
[04-May-2009 12:15:23] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m62748067
[04-May-2009 12:15:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-May-2009 12:15:45] <rmatte> all I did was create a template called sysUpTime at the /Devices level with that datapoint in it then bind it to the /Windows class
[04-May-2009 12:15:50] <rmatte> and now everything is screwed up
[04-May-2009 12:18:15] <rmatte> I reset bindings on /Windows and now it's working
[04-May-2009 12:18:29] <rmatte> strange
[04-May-2009 12:35:27] <rmatte> how often does it actually collect the sysuptime info?
[04-May-2009 12:35:50] <rmatte> I've got a bunch of windows systems which I've added the syUpTime datapoint to their Device templates and I still see no uptime info for them
[04-May-2009 12:41:49] <rmatte> (and yes, SNMP is working correctly on them)
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[04-May-2009 12:53:30] <rmatte> oh, I forgot to make the actual gauge datapoints
[04-May-2009 12:53:33] <rmatte> stupid me
[04-May-2009 12:57:52] <AngryParsley> quick question: Last Change: 2009/04/10 11:00:10
[04-May-2009 12:57:52] <AngryParsley> Last Collection: 2009/04/10 11:00:10
[04-May-2009 12:58:10] <AngryParsley> that means if the machine died over the week-end, zenoss won't alert, right?
[04-May-2009 12:58:21] <AngryParsley> since the last time it got data was a few weeks ago
[04-May-2009 12:58:40] <rmatte> last collection just means the last time it was modelled
[04-May-2009 12:58:46] <rmatte> not literally the last time it collected data
[04-May-2009 12:59:02] <rmatte> last change means the last time you did a configuration change to the device in Zenoss
[04-May-2009 12:59:14] <AngryParsley> ok. I know nothing about zenoss but a machine went down and zenoss says it's up
[04-May-2009 12:59:52] <AngryParsley> like, machine is dead. unpingable, doesn't accept TCP connections, snmp is dead on it.
[04-May-2009 13:00:07] <AngryParsley> zenoss says it's fine. so I'm betting zenoss is configured incorrectly
[04-May-2009 13:02:32] <AngryParsley> is there a wiki or some place with documentation on how to deal with this?
[04-May-2009 13:08:14] <mrayzenoss> is there anything on the Events tab for that machine?
[04-May-2009 13:09:34] <AngryParsley> doesn't look like it. to see the most events I should put severity at clear, right?
[04-May-2009 13:10:17] <AngryParsley> if I look at event history the last event is on 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:10:59] <AngryParsley> ah, wait I found one from 4/27
[04-May-2009 13:11:22] <AngryParsley> summary Error reading value for "PERC (2 is good)" on sppw012iad.io.askjeeves.info (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3582.1.1.2.1.3.0.0 is bad)
[04-May-2009 13:11:27] <AngryParsley> severity Debug (1)
[04-May-2009 13:11:39] <AngryParsley> stateChange 2009/04/27 16:49:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:11:39] <AngryParsley> firstTime 2009/03/16 22:44:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:11:40] <AngryParsley> lastTime 2009/04/27 16:49:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:12:01] <AngryParsley> ick
[04-May-2009 13:12:03] <AngryParsley> count 11983
[04-May-2009 13:12:19] <AngryParsley> is there a zenoss pastebin?
[04-May-2009 13:12:58] <mrayzenoss> not externally
[04-May-2009 13:13:35] <AngryParsley> http://pastebin.com/d231be6f
[04-May-2009 13:13:46] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-May-2009 13:14:24] <AngryParsley> the monitoring isn't my department, but it seems like they screwed up the monitors and didn't tell anyone
[04-May-2009 13:15:24] <mrayzenoss> the deletedTime is when is was moved to history
[04-May-2009 13:15:38] <AngryParsley> and I'd like to make sure I'm not a complete fool before accusing them of anything
[04-May-2009 13:15:48] <mrayzenoss> if you look at the log, there should be an entry
[04-May-2009 13:16:09] <AngryParsley> yes, there was an entry
[04-May-2009 13:16:20] <AngryParsley> that's how I found the event
[04-May-2009 13:16:36] <AngryParsley> the machine went down on 5/2 though
[04-May-2009 13:16:47] <AngryParsley> and it's still down now, and zenoss still says it's up
[04-May-2009 13:17:28] <mrayzenoss> if you go to the Status page, what does "State" say?
[04-May-2009 13:17:50] <AngryParsley> #
[04-May-2009 13:17:50] <AngryParsley> # Status: Up
[04-May-2009 13:17:59] <AngryParsley> State Production
[04-May-2009 13:18:14] <AngryParsley> and all the cool icons are green
[04-May-2009 13:18:24] <AngryParsley> 0 events of any color. even gray
[04-May-2009 13:18:58] <AngryParsley> I'll upload a screenshot
[04-May-2009 13:19:07] <mrayzenoss> I believe you, just thinking
[04-May-2009 13:19:31] <mrayzenoss> if you go to Settings->Daemons is everything running?
[04-May-2009 13:19:34] <AngryParsley> http://abughrai.be/pics/zenoss.png
[04-May-2009 13:20:17] <AngryParsley> settings?
[04-May-2009 13:20:44] <mrayzenoss> Yeah, on the left navigation, under Management there's "Settings"
[04-May-2009 13:20:56] <AngryParsley> I don't have admin privs :/
[04-May-2009 13:21:07] <AngryParsley> I guess that's where my probing stops :/
[04-May-2009 13:21:09] <mrayzenoss> ahhh, it's easier to figure things out as Admin
[04-May-2009 13:21:21] <AngryParsley> heh, yes, it is
[04-May-2009 13:21:33] <mrayzenoss> Is everything else monitoring OK?
[04-May-2009 13:22:31] <AngryParsley> I don't think so, but I'm not about to try rebooting production machines
[04-May-2009 13:23:09] <AngryParsley> I haven't seen any alerts with severity > info that are newer than mid-april
[04-May-2009 13:23:10] <mrayzenoss> if you look at other machines you're monitoring, what does it say for "Last Collection"
[04-May-2009 13:23:22] <AngryParsley> they're all 4/10 or 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:23:40] <AngryParsley> but rmatte said that doesn't mean the data wasn't collected
[04-May-2009 13:24:12] <mrayzenoss> if you go to the Perf tab do you have updated graphs?
[04-May-2009 13:25:04] <AngryParsley> ooh. if I go to localhost's perf tab and look at graphs, collected events drops to 0 on 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:25:11] <AngryParsley> and it has been that way ever since
[04-May-2009 13:25:34] <AngryParsley> the graphs are up to date though
[04-May-2009 13:25:44] <mrayzenoss> ugh
[04-May-2009 13:25:48] <mrayzenoss> yeah, sounds like something died. I'd bet there's an event for that somewhere that got ignored
[04-May-2009 13:26:03] <mrayzenoss> perhaps around 4/10 or 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:26:27] <mrayzenoss> I'd get your Admin user to track it down
[04-May-2009 13:27:39] <AngryParsley> yeah, I opened a ticket. really though, you'd think they'd notice that nothing broke for 3 weeks
[04-May-2009 13:27:52] <AngryParsley> I mean thousands of machines don't just stay up without failure for that long
[04-May-2009 13:27:53] <mrayzenoss> heh, yeah
[04-May-2009 13:28:12] <mrayzenoss> what version?
[04-May-2009 13:28:38] <AngryParsley> of zenoss? how do I find out?
[04-May-2009 13:29:03] <mrayzenoss> on the login screen
[04-May-2009 13:29:13] <mrayzenoss> it says "Version 2.3.3" or whatever
[04-May-2009 13:29:28] <AngryParsley> 2.3.0
[04-May-2009 13:30:24] <mrayzenoss> hmmm... I'd recommend upgrading to 2.3.3, or better yet, 2.4 when it comes out.
[04-May-2009 13:30:42] <AngryParsley> yeah..... we very recently started using zenoss. before this was sitescope
[04-May-2009 13:30:45] <AngryParsley> which was the worst thing ever
[04-May-2009 13:30:46] <mrayzenoss> This doesn't sound like a known issue to me, there were just a whole lot of stability improvements in the later 2.3 releases and 2.4 has over 600 tickets closed against it
[04-May-2009 13:31:05] <AngryParsley> I would bet on a configuration issue before a bug in zenoss
[04-May-2009 13:32:32] <mrayzenoss> hopefully, I just know the amount of QA and testing in 2.3 has really improved the quality lately
[04-May-2009 13:32:44] <AngryParsley> well that's good
[04-May-2009 13:33:03] <AngryParsley> I'm still amazed at how much better this is compared to sitescope
[04-May-2009 13:34:01] <AngryParsley> thanks for your help. I guess I'll idle in here in case anyone else has any advice
[04-May-2009 13:41:05] <jmp242> AngryParsley: You may want to post in the Zenoss Users forum, with relevant information - lots more users read that beyond IRC
[04-May-2009 13:42:16] <rmatte> ummm, when I click on a process that's being monitored the graphs for CPU, memory, and process count for that process don't load at all
[04-May-2009 13:42:22] <rmatte> anyone have any idea why?
[04-May-2009 13:46:44] <dollarbang> anybody out there help a newbie with a "windows"/zenoss question?
[04-May-2009 13:49:06] <rmatte> name the question
[04-May-2009 13:49:40] <AngryParsley> jmp242: ah, it turned out that lots of zenoss stuff had crashed
[04-May-2009 13:50:04] <AngryParsley> zenhub, zenmodeler, zenwin, and zeneventlog
[04-May-2009 13:50:18] <jmp242> dollarbang: sure, but maybe start here: trac-zenpacks/wiki/CommunityFAQGeneral
[04-May-2009 13:57:04] <dollarbang> been there, everything was working fine until a Unix SA's applied some ZenPacks last Friday. I was using a local admin account, instead of a domain account. I waited on the Lock to clear (we have it dynamically set to clear after so many minutes).
[04-May-2009 13:58:08] <dollarbang> then reactivated each of the windows devices one at a time, then all 3 started receiving error connects.
[04-May-2009 14:01:45] <jmp242> which zenpacks were installed? What version of Zenoss are you running? As I understand, you have 3 Windows devices, and all 3 give error messages. What is the error message?
[04-May-2009 14:11:14] <dollarbang> "Could not read the Windows event log (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)." I'll get the Zenpacks and level in a minute (I know it isn't Blue Crab)
[04-May-2009 14:12:44] <rmatte> dollarbang: Win2K8 devices?
[04-May-2009 14:15:16] <dollarbang> two are w2k, one is w2k3, no w2k8 (yet), Zenoss Version 2.3.3, Zenpacks: Printer, ZenPacks.Ricoh.SvcCheck (local), ZenPacks.fdeckert.myeventviews
[04-May-2009 14:17:18] <rmatte> you're sure that the account that you're using has appropriate access on those servers?
[04-May-2009 14:18:42] <dollarbang> yes, that was the first thing I checked, after I had the account unlocked, I remote connected to each server, as well as map'd a drive to each server.
[04-May-2009 14:19:40] <rmatte> that hap[pens sometimes on my win2k8 box, and I have to reboot it to get WMI working again
[04-May-2009 14:21:43] <dollarbang> thanks, I'll get with the Windows support team, and see if they can help in finding a resolution. One of the windows servers (the w2k3) box was rebooted this morning, the other two have been up for more than 30 days.
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[04-May-2009 14:28:23] <mrayzenoss> so I heard that Win2K8 has an SSH daemon?
[04-May-2009 14:28:37] <rmatte> no idea
[04-May-2009 14:28:48] <rmatte> I believe so though
[04-May-2009 14:29:07] <mrayzenoss> I wonder if that would be easier than dealing with WMI?
[04-May-2009 14:29:28] <rmatte> probably, I prefer just using a mixture of SNMP and WMI myself
[04-May-2009 14:29:38] <rmatte> SNMP for everything except the process monitoring
[04-May-2009 14:30:26] <mrayzenoss> WMI is infuriating to configure.
[04-May-2009 14:30:36] <rmatte> it can be hehe
[04-May-2009 14:31:01] <rmatte> SNMP is nice, though it can be a pain in the ass on windows boxes, especially with gathering performance data on stuff like memory
[04-May-2009 14:31:13] <rmatte> I had to write a script that actually hunts down the right OID for the memory
[04-May-2009 14:31:19] <rmatte> since it always changes from server to server
[04-May-2009 14:31:38] <rmatte> works nicely though
[04-May-2009 14:37:23] <jb> i don't have any problems with snmp+wmi on windows
[04-May-2009 14:37:36] <jb> and creating WMI datasources is simple
[04-May-2009 14:38:53] <mrayzenoss> I guess it's just my experiences with Windows XP that have soured me on it. Never have been much of a windows admin
[04-May-2009 14:39:13] <rmatte> yeh, I'm more of a Linux guy myself
[04-May-2009 14:39:22] <rmatte> but I can deal with server 2003, and 2008
[04-May-2009 14:40:16] <mrayzenoss> I guess that's what I get for running XP at all
[04-May-2009 14:40:18] <mrayzenoss>
[04-May-2009 14:40:45] <rmatte> I don't use Windows really much anyone
[04-May-2009 14:40:52] <rmatte> I have Linux on both my home PCs and my work PC
[04-May-2009 14:41:04] <mrayzenoss> yeah, it's just my gaming box
[04-May-2009 14:41:17] <rmatte> I've got my PS3 for that
[04-May-2009 14:41:19] <rmatte>
[04-May-2009 14:41:24] <mrayzenoss> yeah, xbox
[04-May-2009 14:41:52] <rmatte> I'd get an xbox but I find the controllers are uncomfortable and I don't want to have to pay monthly to play online
[04-May-2009 14:42:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I just got tired of upgrading my gaming PC and really wanted to play Left 4 Dead
[04-May-2009 14:42:54] <mrayzenoss> so I rationalized it to the missus as a cost-saver
[04-May-2009 14:43:13] <mrayzenoss> xbox cheaper than new PC
[04-May-2009 14:43:21] <rmatte> hehe
[04-May-2009 14:43:27] <rmatte> I'm a CoD4 junkie
[04-May-2009 14:44:24] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's on my to-play list
[04-May-2009 14:44:33] <rmatte> best game ever
[04-May-2009 14:44:49] <rmatte> although CoD World at War isn't that great in comparison
[04-May-2009 14:45:02] <rmatte> I can't wait until Modern Warfare 2 comes out
[04-May-2009 14:45:09] <mrayzenoss> I took a few years off of gaming to go to graduate school while working, so I have a massive backlog of games to catch up on
[04-May-2009 14:45:23] <rmatte> I only really play CoD4, and very sparingly
[04-May-2009 14:45:33] <rmatte> too much work
[04-May-2009 14:45:46] <mrayzenoss> yeah, me too. I average about 1-2 hours a week
[04-May-2009 14:46:08] <rmatte> same, though sometimes I'll sit and play for like 6 hours straight some random night
[04-May-2009 14:46:43] <mrayzenoss> sounds fun
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[04-May-2009 14:47:28] <rmatte> yup
[04-May-2009 14:48:32] <jb> cod waw is awesome
[04-May-2009 14:48:35] <jb> so was cod4..
[04-May-2009 14:50:06] <rmatte> I just don't like the tanks
[04-May-2009 14:50:19] <rmatte> and the guns are kind of lame, except for the type 100 and some of the sniper rifles
[04-May-2009 14:50:29] <rmatte> oh, and the trench gun
[04-May-2009 14:50:56] <jb> hmm, can I not add individual reports to zenpacks?
[04-May-2009 14:50:58] <jb> easily
[04-May-2009 14:55:05] <jb> nm
[04-May-2009 15:03:04] <jb> hm so the zenpack doesn't like the service class
[04-May-2009 15:03:06] <jb> won't reinstall it
[04-May-2009 15:03:42] <rmatte> is it a service class which doesn't exist already?
[04-May-2009 15:03:46] <jb> right
[04-May-2009 15:03:50] <jb> i want it to create one
[04-May-2009 15:04:08] <rmatte> then you need to add the actual class to the zenpack instead of just the report
[04-May-2009 15:04:19] <rmatte> and then remove any reports from that class in the zenpack that you don't want
[04-May-2009 15:04:24] <jb> yeah
[04-May-2009 15:04:44] <jb> ah i got it
[04-May-2009 15:04:48] <jb> yeah i added the services, not the class
[04-May-2009 15:04:59] <rmatte> yuppers
[04-May-2009 15:05:09] <jb> do I need to add the individual services too?
[04-May-2009 15:07:16] <jb> ugh, it tried to actually put my devices in the zenpack
[04-May-2009 15:08:50] <jb> hmm
[04-May-2009 15:12:10] <jb> im not even sure why it included these devices
[04-May-2009 15:12:15] <jb> i didn't even add their device class
[04-May-2009 15:12:41] <jb> they are in the <tomany> in objects.xml
[04-May-2009 15:20:24] <rmatte> odd
[04-May-2009 15:20:43] <rmatte> You shouldn't technically be able to package devices in a Zenpack
[04-May-2009 16:07:30] <rmatte> so is there any particular reason why all processes being monitored in Zenoss via SNMP don't show CPU, memory, and number of processes?
[04-May-2009 16:07:34] <rmatte> the graphs just don't load
[04-May-2009 16:48:52] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: have you looked at Jane Curry's processing monitoring paper? It probably covers something that is missing: http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jcurry.html
[04-May-2009 16:49:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Papers and Presentations by Jane Curry (at www.skills-1st.co.uk)
[04-May-2009 16:49:08] <rmatte> nope, I'll take a read, thanks
[04-May-2009 16:56:10] <rmatte> any idea why the OSProcesses template has SNMP datapoints with no OIDs?
[04-May-2009 17:02:33] <rmatte> that paper doesn't really have anything in relation to this issue
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[04-May-2009 17:04:46] <rmatte> unfortunately
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[04-May-2009 19:58:43] <CamargoBP> Hey if you need to take a break from configuring zenoss check out what I found. It's fun. http://camargobp.mybrute.com
[04-May-2009 20:19:25] <rmatte>
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[05-May-2009 01:21:07] <xulfer> Hey, I'm having some issues getting graphs to display within my multi-graph report. I'm trying to get a throughput graph on all the devices in the collection. I have a graph definition pointed at ifinoctets, and ifoutoctets, as well as a couple graph groups to display them. Yet I get nothing but empty boxes with question marks in them. Any ideas?
[05-May-2009 06:08:07] <eNeRGi> good afternoon.
[05-May-2009 06:08:39] <eNeRGi> I have one question that I've been trying to find the answer to now for too many hours... hope someone here can help me.
[05-May-2009 06:08:49] <eNeRGi> I'm actually quite sure it has come up before
[05-May-2009 06:08:56] <eNeRGi> I have a CPU idle graph.
[05-May-2009 06:09:11] <eNeRGi> which at the moment shows me 400%, as I have 4 cores in the machine I'm monitoring
[05-May-2009 06:09:29] <eNeRGi> I would want this normalized, and actually have it somewhat working with an external zencommand
[05-May-2009 06:09:46] <eNeRGi> but now I stumbled across the ${here/os} etc variables
[05-May-2009 06:10:13] <eNeRGi> so question 1. is there a list of these variables somewhere? i.e. what data can be easily accessed via that method?
[05-May-2009 06:10:51] <eNeRGi> and question 2. is there a way to use any of that data to divide the cpu idle % with the number of cpus without using data from a zencommand?
[05-May-2009 06:10:58] <eNeRGi> something like:
[05-May-2009 06:11:22] <eNeRGi> RPN: ${here/os/cpuCount},/
[05-May-2009 08:16:24] <rocket> morning cluther
[05-May-2009 08:52:38] <rmatte> bizarre, I have some ethernet interfaces on 3 different servers that suddenly just stopped collecting traffic data and are complaining about bad OIDs
[05-May-2009 08:52:46] <rmatte> even though it was working fine up until a couple of days ago
[05-May-2009 08:52:50] <rmatte> seeing stuff like...
[05-May-2009 08:53:00] <rmatte> Error reading value for "HP NC3163 Fast Ethernet NIC" on AP02RICv001 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.65539 is bad)
[05-May-2009 08:53:20] <rmatte> but an snmpwalk...
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> AP02RICv001
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.1 = Counter32: 43021494
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.65540 = Counter32: 0
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.131075 = Counter32: 4036304
[05-May-2009 08:53:38] <rmatte> there isn't even a .65539 value, not sure what's going on there
[05-May-2009 08:54:45] <rmatte> any ideas?
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[05-May-2009 08:57:06] <rmatte> SNMP Index 65539 on the IP Interface shows as 65539, maybe I just need to remodel
[05-May-2009 08:57:19] <cluther> rmatte: That's exactly right.
[05-May-2009 08:57:27] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 08:57:47] <rmatte> strange that it would just suddenly change like that
[05-May-2009 08:58:29] <rmatte> that Windows SNMP agent is a wacky thing
[05-May-2009 08:59:58] <rmatte> also, none of the processes currently being monitored via SNMP show any CPU or memory utilization info...
[05-May-2009 09:00:20] <rmatte> Matt pointed me to a paper by Jane on process monitoring, I read through but it doesn't really have anything that helps me with this issue
[05-May-2009 09:00:31] <cluther> rmatte: What version are you running again?
[05-May-2009 09:00:38] <rmatte> latest stable version
[05-May-2009 09:00:46] <rmatte> 2.3.3 I think?
[05-May-2009 09:00:53] * rmatte checks
[05-May-2009 09:01:11] <rmatte> yup, 2.3.3
[05-May-2009 09:01:45] <cluther> rmatte: Do you know that the up/down monitoring of processes is working?
[05-May-2009 09:02:00] <rmatte> not really sure actually
[05-May-2009 09:02:04] <rmatte> they show as up
[05-May-2009 09:02:11] <rmatte> haven't really seen any alerts for any going down
[05-May-2009 09:02:26] <rmatte> something we need to test today I guess
[05-May-2009 09:02:42] <cluther> rmatte: You could try running "zenprocess run" to see if it runs properly or if there are any errors.
[05-May-2009 09:03:16] <rmatte> I'll try that right now...
[05-May-2009 09:03:35] <rmatte> ah, I need why the interface info changed, they added another NIC
[05-May-2009 09:03:40] <rmatte> I see why*
[05-May-2009 09:03:58] <jb> 2.4 out today
[05-May-2009 09:04:01] <rmatte> ok, firing off zenprocess...
[05-May-2009 09:04:06] <rmatte> 2.4 is officially released today?
[05-May-2009 09:04:14] <rmatte> or just next beta?
[05-May-2009 09:04:21] <jb> 2.4 core
[05-May-2009 09:04:24] <rmatte> cool
[05-May-2009 09:04:46] <rmatte> I'll upgrade our Lab box then later and make sure that everything goes smoothly
[05-May-2009 09:10:02] <rmatte> I don't seen any 2.4 download links up on the site yet
[05-May-2009 09:10:07] <rmatte> is the release a bit later on?
[05-May-2009 09:12:40] <rmatte> ummmmm
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> zenoss@gen01:/home/rmatte$ zenprocess run
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Connected to ZenHub
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 5 devices and 12 processes
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 09:12:42] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 09:12:53] <rmatte> I know we're monitoring a heck of a lot more processes than that
[05-May-2009 09:13:00] <rmatte> Timeout issue?
[05-May-2009 09:15:16] <cluther> rmatte: Try doing a reindex() then commit() in zendmd. Then run zenprocess again and see if the results differ.
[05-May-2009 09:15:23] <rmatte> ok
[05-May-2009 09:15:39] <rmatte> just need to finish modelling these 2 other servers then I'll try it out
[05-May-2009 09:16:07] <rmatte> So does that reindex everything then commit it back to zope?
[05-May-2009 09:17:54] <cluther> Right. I'm thinking that the processes got set to monitored, but this was no reflected in the catalog.
[05-May-2009 09:18:03] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 09:18:09] <rmatte> does this sort of thing happen often?
[05-May-2009 09:18:18] <cluther> We've had a couple of tickets surrounding this problem. If we can confirm it then we at least know that it is fixed in 2.4.
[05-May-2009 09:18:20] <rmatte> might be a nice feature to have right in the UI
[05-May-2009 09:18:29] <rmatte> something like Manage -> Reindex & Commit
[05-May-2009 09:18:48] <jmp242> anyone know if there's a reason Zenoss 2.3.3 might mount home directories beyond it's own?
[05-May-2009 09:19:02] <cluther> rmatte: It's really a band-aid. Our general feeling is that we'd rather know about the problems than run some process to silently fix them.
[05-May-2009 09:19:03] <rmatte> oh, you fixed this sort of thing in 2.4, nice
[05-May-2009 09:19:20] <rmatte> yeh, true enough
[05-May-2009 09:20:23] <rmatte> "mount home directories"?
[05-May-2009 09:20:25] <rmatte> explain/
[05-May-2009 09:20:58] <rmatte> == ?
[05-May-2009 09:21:48] <rocket> cluther: if I have a modeler returns results missing columns does that mean I am trying to get too many snmp vars at once?
[05-May-2009 09:22:03] <jmp242> oh, somehow our Zenoss Server has mounted all of our users home directories from the home directory server via NFS
[05-May-2009 09:22:18] <jmp242> we're trying to track down perhaps why this has happened
[05-May-2009 09:22:29] <rmatte> I wasn't even aware that Zenoss contained the functionality to mount an nfs share
[05-May-2009 09:22:47] <rmatte> you sure it's not some script that you whipped together gone haywire?
[05-May-2009 09:23:34] <rocket> have an automount running perhaps jmp242? and somehow touched the wrong directories?
[05-May-2009 09:23:47] <rmatte> yeh, that could be it as well
[05-May-2009 09:26:07] <jmp242> well, I haven't written any scripts to hit odd directories that I'm aware of ... but I'm trying to narrow this down... Has anyone had it stop looking at the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames?
[05-May-2009 09:26:41] <jmp242> I think it recently (maybe after our upgrade from 2.2.4 to 2.3.3) started erroring on /AFS directories
[05-May-2009 09:26:48] <rmatte> only when I made a syntax error/spelling mistake
[05-May-2009 09:27:05] <jmp242> but this is our entry:
[05-May-2009 09:27:09] <jmp242> mm
[05-May-2009 09:27:18] <jmp242> this: /nfs/|/cdat/|/a/|/afs/|/home/
[05-May-2009 09:29:04] <rmatte> hmmm, maybe you have to do something to make the /home one apply recursively?
[05-May-2009 09:30:14] <jmp242> mmm
[05-May-2009 09:31:24] <jmp242> What's weird is we aren't seeing /home events or filesystems in the OS tab. Odder is we are seeing /afs though
[05-May-2009 09:32:01] <jmp242> and it's giving: /afs 8.6GB 79.6GB -71.0GB 927
[05-May-2009 09:32:20] <jmp242> so somehow a negative free space
[05-May-2009 09:32:39] <jmp242> would a re-model maybe get rid of the spurious /afs monitoring?
[05-May-2009 09:36:29] <rmatte> it might
[05-May-2009 09:36:43] <rmatte> The ignore lines require remodels
[05-May-2009 09:36:50] <rmatte> if you add an ignore but don't remodel it does nothing
[05-May-2009 09:38:50] <rmatte> big Zenpacks seem to make zProperties take forever to load/save, might be something to look in to fixing for King Crab
[05-May-2009 09:39:22] <rmatte> and by big I mean huge (Cisco Mibs pack)
[05-May-2009 09:39:40] <rmatte> it's like it has to reindex all zenpacks before it'll load zProperties
[05-May-2009 09:39:52] <rmatte> same thing for actually loading the Zenpacks page
[05-May-2009 09:53:53] <jmp242> so this is really weird
[05-May-2009 09:56:10] <jmp242> if I change my zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[05-May-2009 09:56:19] <jmp242> to be : /nfs/|/cdat/|/a/|/afs|/home/
[05-May-2009 09:56:32] <jmp242> now it does what I expect, and doesn't monitor /afs/
[05-May-2009 09:57:03] <jmp242> but regex of /afs/ should match /afs/ just like /afs matches /afs/ ...
[05-May-2009 09:57:04] <rmatte> you might not even need the trailing /'s
[05-May-2009 09:57:34] <jmp242> well, we do sort of, because there could be /afserl/ or something else in the future
[05-May-2009 09:57:53] <jmp242> we are more worried because we currently have /a/ in there
[05-May-2009 09:57:55] <rmatte> well, technically "/afs" refers to the directory itself while "/afs/" refers more to the contents of the directory, maybe Zenoss is just quirky like that
[05-May-2009 09:57:56] <jmp242> and that is working
[05-May-2009 09:58:19] <rmatte> maybe it's a combination of the s and the /?
[05-May-2009 09:58:26] <jmp242> mmm
[05-May-2009 09:58:39] <jmp242> I wonder if the back end parsing changed between 2.2.4 and 2.3.3
[05-May-2009 09:58:39] <rmatte> is /nfs/ working?
[05-May-2009 09:58:44] <jmp242> seems to be
[05-May-2009 09:58:48] <rmatte> it's possible
[05-May-2009 09:58:48] <jmp242> which is why this is so weird
[05-May-2009 09:58:52] <rmatte> hmm
[05-May-2009 10:05:09] <rmatte> too bad you guys don't have a "Zenoss Merchandise" section on your site, I want a Zenny Zebra for my desk lol
[05-May-2009 10:09:38] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: heh, those are like 10 cents each, we give away a couple hundred at every conference
[05-May-2009 10:09:54] <mrayzenoss> we'll be at SouthEast Linux Fest next month
[05-May-2009 10:10:13] <rmatte> I've seen the photos, but I can't really make any of the conferences unless you guys come out to BSD Can next year
[05-May-2009 10:11:14] <mrayzenoss> ahh, this weekend
[05-May-2009 10:11:23] <rmatte> yeh
[05-May-2009 10:11:29] <mrayzenoss> kinda short notice
[05-May-2009 10:11:32] <rmatte> hehe
[05-May-2009 10:11:37] <rmatte> that's why I said, next year
[05-May-2009 10:12:00] <mrayzenoss> hopefully we'll have real ports next year
[05-May-2009 10:12:00] <rmatte> but it's something to look at, Ottawa is one of the biggest IT cities in Canada
[05-May-2009 10:12:23] <rmatte> would be nice to see you guys up here hehe
[05-May-2009 10:13:54] <rmatte> now to see if this reindexing that Chet suggested actually works...
[05-May-2009 10:15:27] <jb> i have a couple of zebras on my desk
[05-May-2009 10:15:27] <jb>
[05-May-2009 10:16:00] <jb> zenoss is in chicago this thusday too
[05-May-2009 10:16:03] <jb> not sure where you are located..
[05-May-2009 10:16:11] <mrayzenoss> maybe we should send Ian, he's in Waterloo
[05-May-2009 10:16:23] <rmatte> yeh, Waterloo isn't far
[05-May-2009 10:16:32] <rmatte> well, it sort of is, but not that bad hehe
[05-May-2009 10:16:47] <mrayzenoss> closer than Kells, he's in Calgary
[05-May-2009 10:17:02] <rmatte> yeh, there's no way I can make Chicago, especially since I don't currently have a passport
[05-May-2009 10:17:12] <jmp242> mmm, is there another better way to disable monitoring of just /afs/ than the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames ...?
[05-May-2009 10:17:12] <chudler> What's Zenoss doing in Chicago?
[05-May-2009 10:17:15] <rmatte> cool, didn't know you guys had people all over the place like that
[05-May-2009 10:17:23] <rmatte> thought you were all in the US
[05-May-2009 10:17:23] <mrayzenoss> CAMP IT
[05-May-2009 10:17:26] <jb> chudler: CAMPIT
[05-May-2009 10:17:32] <jb> im going..
[05-May-2009 10:17:41] <jb> its like 10minutes from my office
[05-May-2009 10:17:52] <rmatte> jb: nice
[05-May-2009 10:17:59] <mrayzenoss> cool, I don't know who's going, I figure it's an Enterprise thing
[05-May-2009 10:18:10] <jb> yeah its gary myk
[05-May-2009 10:18:13] <jb> and dahl is speaking
[05-May-2009 10:19:58] <mrayzenoss> someone from Ottawa Linux Symposium did stop by at LinuxFest NW. Said we should go
[05-May-2009 10:20:13] <rmatte> you should
[05-May-2009 10:20:20] <rmatte> we have quite a few of things like that here
[05-May-2009 10:20:28] <mrayzenoss> heh, looking at the business card now, it was Ontario LinuxFest
[05-May-2009 10:20:47] <rmatte> I used to be a heavy FreeBSD user, so that's why I caught on to BSDCan, but I also occasionally go to some Linux related events as well
[05-May-2009 10:21:08] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I always see the same FreeBSD people at the Linux conventions
[05-May-2009 10:21:47] <rmatte> yeh, I haven't used FreeBSD in like 3 years, but I used it for like 5 years before I even touched Linux, so I still remember all the intricacies of it
[05-May-2009 10:22:56] <rmatte> I also dabbled with NetBSD and OpenBSD
[05-May-2009 10:23:03] <rmatte> fun fun
[05-May-2009 10:23:06] <jb> i used to be a fbsd junkie
[05-May-2009 10:23:12] <jb> im pretty much all linux now..
[05-May-2009 10:23:17] <jb> at my current shop, at least
[05-May-2009 10:23:29] <rmatte> jb: same, all linux now at home and at work
[05-May-2009 10:23:46] <rmatte> migrated my FreeBSD server to Gentoo about 3 years ago
[05-May-2009 10:23:52] <jb> well, i run windows on my desktop stuff.. and we have a fairly large AD infrastructure here as well
[05-May-2009 10:23:55] <jb> so i dabble in lots
[05-May-2009 10:24:19] <rmatte> ah, I run Linux on my desktop at work, but I have a Windows virtual machine for Microsoft CRM, Exchange, etc...
[05-May-2009 10:24:37] <rmatte> wow, now Zenprocess is picking everything up
[05-May-2009 10:24:43] <rmatte> thanks Chet, it was the index
[05-May-2009 10:24:54] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 47 devices and 146 processes
[05-May-2009 10:24:54] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 10:24:55] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 10:25:00] <rmatte> looks a bit better than before
[05-May-2009 10:29:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: if that was something not covered in Jane Curry's process monitoring paper, perhaps you could send her a note about it
[05-May-2009 10:30:14] <rmatte> I sure will
[05-May-2009 10:30:37] <rmatte> wow
[05-May-2009 10:30:46] <rmatte> got a huuuuuge flood of process down notifications
[05-May-2009 10:30:51] <rmatte> hopefully that's only temporary
[05-May-2009 10:36:21] <rmatte> the guys working in our ticketing system were like "ok, why do we suddenly have 75 tickets in the stack?"
[05-May-2009 10:42:48] <rmatte> ok, so now I have a process count graph for processes, but no CPU or Memory graphs, guess they'll just take some time to generate
[05-May-2009 10:45:29] <rmatte> ah ok, they are showing up for some processes
[05-May-2009 10:46:31] <rmatte> well, those were my Zenoss issues for the day, all solved
[05-May-2009 10:46:33] <rmatte> thanks Chet
[05-May-2009 10:47:18] <rmatte> Hey Matt, what's the official time of release for 2.4?
[05-May-2009 10:47:22] <mrayzenoss> today
[05-May-2009 10:47:24] <mrayzenoss> heh
[05-May-2009 10:47:31] <rmatte> yeh, but at noon, or what?
[05-May-2009 10:47:40] <rmatte> I still see 2.3.3 listed on the site
[05-May-2009 10:48:34] <mrayzenoss> we're doing a release check of everything right now
[05-May-2009 10:48:48] <mrayzenoss> everything uploaded, new docs, checking URLs
[05-May-2009 10:49:46] <mrayzenoss> and I'm doing the Getting Started with Zenoss webinar right now
[05-May-2009 10:49:58] <rmatte> nice
[05-May-2009 10:50:15] <jb> wheres that?
[05-May-2009 10:50:16] <rmatte> those weminars are fairly basic right?
[05-May-2009 10:50:26] <rmatte> like, I probably wouldn't get much out of it?
[05-May-2009 10:50:36] <jb> dountful
[05-May-2009 10:50:40] <jb> doubtful
[05-May-2009 10:50:50] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we basically walk through the installation and Getting Started with Zenoss Guides
[05-May-2009 10:51:07] <rmatte> is there any kind of more advanced weminar explaining creation of collector plugins, or stuff like that?
[05-May-2009 10:51:27] <rmatte> even if I had to pay for it lol
[05-May-2009 10:51:28] <mrayzenoss> not yet, we just started doing them
[05-May-2009 10:51:35] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 10:51:41] <rmatte> would be cool though
[05-May-2009 10:51:51] <mrayzenoss> but that would be a good idea. I bet there would be interest
[05-May-2009 10:52:08] <rmatte> yeh, instead of a quick weminar you could basically offer remote training courses
[05-May-2009 10:52:28] <rmatte> a couple hours a day for a week or whatever
[05-May-2009 10:52:53] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we have video conferencing equipment, we could probably pull that off
[05-May-2009 10:53:01] <rmatte> cool
[05-May-2009 10:53:24] <mrayzenoss> we've got a linkup between Austin & Annapolis, and the remote devs can login as well. Seems like it should work for training
[05-May-2009 10:53:54] <rmatte> for sure
[05-May-2009 10:54:30] <rmatte> what do you guys actually use for the webinars?
[05-May-2009 10:54:42] <rmatte> something like WebEX I'd assume?
[05-May-2009 10:55:10] <mrayzenoss> http://forms.zenoss.com/weekly-demo
[05-May-2009 10:55:13] <mrayzenoss> it's a webex
[05-May-2009 10:55:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Weekly Demo (at forms.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 10:55:27] <rmatte> ah ok, I'd need to view it on a windows box then
[05-May-2009 10:55:30] <rmatte> hehe
[05-May-2009 10:56:03] <mrayzenoss> I think it works with Linux, I seem to remember using it before (I'm currently on OSX)
[05-May-2009 10:56:35] <rmatte> hmmm, I've had no luck with using Webex in Linux, but I'll give it a go to see..
[05-May-2009 10:57:21] <rmatte> ah, too late to get in to today's
[05-May-2009 10:57:30] <rmatte> unless you actually send me a direct link hehe
[05-May-2009 11:00:04] <mrayzenoss> just register and it should send you the link
[05-May-2009 11:00:14] <rmatte> it only offers the webinar for tomorrow
[05-May-2009 11:00:21] <mrayzenoss> tomorrow?
[05-May-2009 11:00:26] <mrayzenoss> http://forms.zenoss.com/getting-started
[05-May-2009 11:00:29] <mrayzenoss> try that
[05-May-2009 11:00:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Getting Started with Zenoss (at forms.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 11:00:44] <rmatte> ah, probably because it was the weekly-demo link you sent me before
[05-May-2009 11:00:50] <mrayzenoss> oops
[05-May-2009 11:03:51] <rmatte> ah, your webex is way better than what we were using
[05-May-2009 11:03:56] <rmatte> since it seems to work in any browser
[05-May-2009 11:05:43] <rmatte> hmmm
[05-May-2009 11:05:55] <rmatte> where is this elusive request button for a dial in number...
[05-May-2009 11:06:42] <rmatte> ah found it
[05-May-2009 11:33:52] <perr0> mrayzenoss: are you taking questions for the webez?
[05-May-2009 11:33:55] <perr0> x
[05-May-2009 11:34:09] <rmatte> he's taking QA in the webex session itself
[05-May-2009 11:34:21] <rmatte> join the session and click on the Q&A tab
[05-May-2009 11:34:28] <perr0> ahh, thanks
[05-May-2009 11:34:30] <mrayzenoss> perr0: yeah
[05-May-2009 11:34:32] <rmatte> np
[05-May-2009 11:35:15] <rmatte> oh Matt, if you want to bedazzle them with a zenoss map you can have Chet show them: http://dmon.org/graphics/zenoss.png
[05-May-2009 11:35:22] <rmatte>
[05-May-2009 11:35:28] <rmatte> (google map)
[05-May-2009 11:35:40] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: email me that, I'll throw it up on our Flickr
[05-May-2009 11:35:56] <rmatte> will do
[05-May-2009 11:38:41] <perr0> rmatte: nice
[05-May-2009 12:52:22] <rmatte> the webinar was nice, I really didn't get anything out of it, but nice to see the sort of setup you guys have
[05-May-2009 12:55:47] <mrayzenoss> thanks
[05-May-2009 13:25:09] <rmatte> ok, this is ridiculous
[05-May-2009 13:25:19] <rmatte> we're getting flooded with process monitor failures all of a sudden
[05-May-2009 13:27:32] <MACscr1> So how can I setup a dynamic value for memAvailSwap? I don't want to hardcode the amounts
[05-May-2009 13:33:15] <rmatte> what would cause us to get floods of OS Process tickets?
[05-May-2009 13:33:18] <rmatte> erm, events
[05-May-2009 13:33:19] <rmatte> rather
[05-May-2009 13:33:31] <rmatte> is there any setting I can tune?
[05-May-2009 13:35:32] <rmatte> I'm going to be sitting here moving these to history constantly all night if I can't figure this out
[05-May-2009 13:37:38] <rmatte> getting tons of "Process not running" alerts
[05-May-2009 13:40:38] <rmatte> anyone?
[05-May-2009 13:45:46] <caseyh2007> Hows it going everyone?
[05-May-2009 13:46:58] <caseyh2007> I have an issue that i can't seem to solve. Just installed Zenoss Core 2.3.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 and when I run 'zenoss start' zopectl keeps dying.
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> zopectl> debug -v
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> Starting debugger (the name "app" is bound to the top-level Zope object)
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> 2009-05-05 11:44:32 WARNING OFS.Application Duplicate Product name
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> After loading Product 'Five' from '/usr/local/zenoss/Products',
[05-May-2009 13:47:16] <caseyh2007> I skipped the one in '/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[05-May-2009 13:47:18] <caseyh2007> 2009-05-05 11:44:34 ERROR Zope Couldn't install ZenWidgets
[05-May-2009 13:47:20] <caseyh2007> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05-May-2009 13:47:22] <caseyh2007> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 773, in install_product
[05-May-2009 13:47:24] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/__init__.py", line 47, in initialize
[05-May-2009 13:47:26] <caseyh2007> update_portlets(registrar._ProductContext__app)
[05-May-2009 13:47:28] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/__init__.py", line 38, in update_portlets
[05-May-2009 13:47:30] <caseyh2007> app.zport.ZenPortletManager.update_source()
[05-May-2009 13:47:32] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/PortletManager.py", line 91, in update_source
[05-May-2009 13:47:34] <caseyh2007> portlet._read_source()
[05-May-2009 13:47:36] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/Portlet.py", line 76, in _read_source
[05-May-2009 13:47:38] <caseyh2007> raise PortletSourceNotFound, e
[05-May-2009 13:47:40] <caseyh2007> PortletSourceNotFound: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js'
[05-May-2009 13:48:59] <rmatte> do you have Linux emulation enabled?
[05-May-2009 13:49:22] <caseyh2007> no
[05-May-2009 13:50:20] <rmatte> ok, and now I just have endless heartbeat failures
[05-May-2009 13:50:40] <rmatte> you should have Linux emulation whatever it's called compiled in to your FreeBSD kernel
[05-May-2009 13:50:52] <rmatte> Zenoss is not natively compatible with FreeBSD
[05-May-2009 13:51:11] <rmatte> not yet anyways
[05-May-2009 13:51:16] <caseyh2007> is that new to zenoss 2.3.3? I have never had to do that before to run zenoss 2.2.x
[05-May-2009 13:51:29] <caseyh2007> they have a source release for FreeBSD
[05-May-2009 13:51:47] <rmatte> did you compile 2.3.3 from source?
[05-May-2009 13:52:04] <caseyh2007> they have an installer script that compiles it
[05-May-2009 13:53:26] <rmatte> ok, these process alerts flooding in are absolutely killing me
[05-May-2009 13:53:31] <rmatte> ah
[05-May-2009 13:54:04] <rmatte> that product 'Five' thing has nothing to do with it
[05-May-2009 13:54:12] <rmatte> but it couldn't load ZenWidgets for some reason
[05-May-2009 13:54:45] <rmatte> I'd say you're missing the file: 'Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js'
[05-May-2009 13:54:51] <rmatte> for whatever reason
[05-May-2009 13:55:21] <caseyh2007> I checked, its there, my guess is that it is not in /usr/local/zenoss when it is looking for the file at that location
[05-May-2009 13:55:29] <rmatte> ok, wait
[05-May-2009 13:55:38] <rmatte> what user are you trying to run it as?
[05-May-2009 13:55:39] <caseyh2007> ...
[05-May-2009 13:55:44] <caseyh2007> zenoss
[05-May-2009 13:55:59] <rmatte> if you do echo "$ZENHOME" what do you see?
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> that could be an issue lol,
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> %echo $ZENHOME
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> ZENHOME: Undefined variable.
[05-May-2009 13:57:10] <rmatte> there's your problem
[05-May-2009 13:57:20] <rmatte> your environment variables aren't set right
[05-May-2009 13:57:37] <rmatte> the script tries to go to: $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js
[05-May-2009 13:57:47] <rmatte> so if it doesn't know what $ZENHOME is it doesn't work
[05-May-2009 13:57:58] <caseyh2007> right
[05-May-2009 14:04:48] <caseyh2007> still giving me the same error
[05-May-2009 14:06:31] <rmatte> you sure it's the exact same error?
[05-May-2009 14:06:39] <rmatte> even after you set that variable?
[05-May-2009 14:07:23] <caseyh2007> yeah, exact same one
[05-May-2009 14:08:24] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m247cb385
[05-May-2009 14:08:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[05-May-2009 14:08:38] <rmatte> those are all the environment variables for the zenoss account on one of my boxes
[05-May-2009 14:20:57] CamargoBP is now known as CamargoBP|away
[05-May-2009 14:23:53] <MACscr1> What did you guys do to resolve the swap value issues? You didn't actually hard code it per server did ya?
[05-May-2009 14:26:15] <chudler> MACscr1: zenoss hard-codes it in the threshold for some reason.
[05-May-2009 14:26:24] <caseyh2007> ok, I have no clue what is going on now, now im not getting an error anymore but zopectl still keeps dying
[05-May-2009 14:26:39] <MACscr1> chudler: no way around that? seems dumb as hell
[05-May-2009 14:26:43] <chudler> I was experimenting with a transform, but I stopped and haven't had time to return.
[05-May-2009 14:26:50] <MACscr1> grr
[05-May-2009 14:26:59] <chudler> here is sort of what it looked like (on /perf/memory event):
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> match = re.search('threshold of low swap [^:]+: current value ([\d\.]+)', evt.message)
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> if match:
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> avail = float(match.groups()[0]) * 1024
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> total = device.os.totalSwap
[05-May-2009 14:27:43] <chudler> then you could take total and avail and find the percent.
[05-May-2009 14:31:40] <chudler> Alternatives would be a custom datapoint that does something like "python:1 - (here.os.totalSwap / here.os.swapAvail) * 100", then put that in a threshold.
[05-May-2009 14:32:22] <chudler> I made up the part about here.os.swapAvail, but it is available somewhere in ZenModel (cannot be bothered to look right now). Putting that in a threshold, however, will KILL a distributed collector setup, BTW.
[05-May-2009 14:34:18] <MACscr1> im still confused on why they poorly designed that particular segment. Its like they weren't even thinking
[05-May-2009 14:40:40] <caseyh2007> Ok, got zope running, by default it listens on all devices and I have tomcat running on port 8080 in a jail and that is why zope would not start. Just had to tell zope to only listen to one IP, thanks rmatte for your help
[05-May-2009 15:05:09] <rmatte> ok, so I've figured out that Zenoss can monitor some OS processes fine, but there are some that it's not monitoring correctly
[05-May-2009 15:05:12] <rmatte> it's always the same process
[05-May-2009 15:05:17] <rmatte> processes*
[05-May-2009 15:05:20] <rmatte> across all devices
[05-May-2009 15:05:23] <rmatte> any thoughts?
[05-May-2009 15:05:33] <jb> hm
[05-May-2009 15:05:37] <jb> my process monitoring tends to work well
[05-May-2009 15:05:44] <jb> except for on one box which has flaky snmp
[05-May-2009 15:05:58] <rmatte> yeh, this doesn't appear to be due to flaky SNMP
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 76 devices and 300 processes
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:22] <rmatte> are there timeout settings somewhere that I can tweak?
[05-May-2009 15:06:30] <rmatte> I have about half that amount of processes monitored
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 47 devices and 146 processes
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:07:06] <jb> dont see a timeout value in zenprocess.conf
[05-May-2009 15:07:12] <rmatte> but I get a lot of Process not running messages
[05-May-2009 15:07:19] <rmatte> even though I know the process is running on the server
[05-May-2009 15:07:42] <rmatte> there's a Process timeout in the collector options I think
[05-May-2009 15:07:54] <rmatte> not sure if it's related
[05-May-2009 15:22:51] <rmatte> hmmm, I should try remodelling...
[05-May-2009 15:33:10] <rmatte> yup that did it
[05-May-2009 15:34:49] <rmatte> now to remodel every server...
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[05-May-2009 17:01:48] <xulfer> I'm having some issues with multi-graph reports. I'm trying to create one displaying interface throughput on several devices. I have a collection, a graph definition pointing at ifInOctets/ifOutOctets, and a graph group. When I go to the report page I see graph boxes, but they're empty, or have question marks inside them.
[05-May-2009 17:02:01] <xulfer> Anyone have any ideas?
[05-May-2009 17:09:29] <MACscr1> howdy ZenRuss
[05-May-2009 17:15:34] <syntaxcollector> howdy room
[05-May-2009 17:15:44] <syntaxcollector> I'm trying to follow the instructions here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-email-delivery-and-receipt/
[05-May-2009 17:15:50] <syntaxcollector> to create an email test circuit
[05-May-2009 17:15:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring Email Delivery and Receipt - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 17:16:31] <syntaxcollector> my command succeeds when "tested" however fails when run automatically by zenoss
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[05-May-2009 17:17:06] <syntaxcollector> it says that the command timed out, I've tried increasing, zCommandCommandTimeout but had no effect
[05-May-2009 17:17:09] <syntaxcollector> any ideas?
[05-May-2009 17:31:03] <rmatte> come back a bit earlier tomorrow or something and more people will actually be around, I'd try and help you out but I'm right in the middle of something
[05-May-2009 17:31:29] <rmatte> about 6 hours ago is the time you should aim for
[05-May-2009 19:46:37] <rmatte> woohoo, finally got zenoss monitoring all process info including CPU, Memory, and process count properly
[05-May-2009 19:51:48] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: greetings, how did you do that?
[05-May-2009 19:52:49] <rmatte> oh, I had to add the processes then remodel the devices
[05-May-2009 19:53:09] <rmatte> I missed the remodelling part initially so I was getting tons of false "Process not running" messages
[05-May-2009 19:53:31] <rmatte> also, initially the index was screwed up in zope for the processes
[05-May-2009 19:53:43] <rmatte> so I had to go in to zendmd and do reindex() and commit()
[05-May-2009 19:54:20] <rmatte> after doing that everything is peachy
[05-May-2009 19:55:02] <sergeymasushko> hm... when I add a process zenoss starts monitor it without restart.
[05-May-2009 19:55:14] <rmatte> sorts of depends on the process
[05-May-2009 19:55:22] <rmatte> it was monitoring some processes fine right after we added them
[05-May-2009 19:55:26] <rmatte> other required a remodel
[05-May-2009 19:55:29] <rmatte> others*
[05-May-2009 19:55:47] <sergeymasushko> thanks. will keep it in mind
[05-May-2009 19:55:51] <rmatte> np
[05-May-2009 19:56:39] <rmatte> also, if it seems like it's monitoring less processes than it should (like, for me when I did "zenprocess run" from the commandline it finished by telling me it had found info for 42 processes, when we are actually monitoring over 150
[05-May-2009 19:56:48] <rmatte> so I had to go in to zendmd and do:
[05-May-2009 19:56:52] <rmatte> reindex()
[05-May-2009 19:56:54] <rmatte> commit()
[05-May-2009 19:57:11] <rmatte> then I ran "zenprocess run" again and it picked everything up that time
[05-May-2009 19:57:27] <rmatte> but then we started getting flooded with events, so I remodelled the devices that were flooding us and now everything is good
[05-May-2009 19:58:02] <sergeymasushko> that is useful information. do you know when the production release of blue crab will be available?
[05-May-2009 19:58:56] <rmatte> core of blue crab was supposed to be released today
[05-May-2009 19:59:05] <rmatte> but they might have postponed it to tomorrow for whatever reason
[05-May-2009 19:59:15] <sergeymasushko> cool.
[05-May-2009 19:59:44] <sergeymasushko> I have some annoying bug that should be fixed in this release.
[05-May-2009 19:59:56] <rmatte> which bug?
[05-May-2009 20:02:25] <sergeymasushko> sometimes zenoss creates events with the same evid. zenoss can not delete these events itself and says: bla-bla-bla duplication error... so need to delete them manually from the DB.
[05-May-2009 20:02:52] <sergeymasushko> it's regard only FreeBSD installation.
[05-May-2009 20:03:39] <rmatte> weird
[05-May-2009 20:03:46] <rmatte> never heard of that before
[05-May-2009 20:04:06] <rmatte> a source build on FreeBSD isn't really something that they test regularly at the moment
[05-May-2009 20:04:12] <rmatte> so it's bound to be a bit quirky
[05-May-2009 20:12:42] <sergeymasushko> there was a ticket http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4202
[05-May-2009 20:13:24] <rmatte> FreeBSD specific, fixed in Blue Crab.
[05-May-2009 20:13:34] <rmatte> well, blue crab should be out by tomorrow hopefully
[05-May-2009 20:16:41] <sergeymasushko> btw... I'm waiting for solution on this TT http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4579
[05-May-2009 20:17:12] <sergeymasushko> that's more important for me...
[05-May-2009 20:17:33] <rmatte> that's one of the most requested features for King Crab
[05-May-2009 20:17:43] <rmatte> so I'm hoping we'll be seeing it
[05-May-2009 20:18:08] <sergeymasushko> yeah.. will see
[05-May-2009 20:18:20] <rmatte> tons of transforms get messy after a while
[05-May-2009 20:19:04] <sergeymasushko> sure... it's too hard keep it up to date and manage it.
[05-May-2009 20:19:12] <rmatte> yeh, exactly
[05-May-2009 20:19:18] <rmatte> the template system needs revamping too
[05-May-2009 20:19:27] <rmatte> can be very tedious to manage
[05-May-2009 20:19:42] <rmatte> when you create a local template you should be able to have it inherit certain values from parent templates
[05-May-2009 20:20:04] <rmatte> like, I had to create a ton of different templates for monitoring different numbers of CPUs, in many different OID configurations
[05-May-2009 20:20:22] <rmatte> but when I want to change CPU thresholds I have to go and find every single local template and update it by hand
[05-May-2009 20:20:37] <rmatte> where as, if it inherited values from a parent template it'd be perfect
[05-May-2009 20:20:46] <rmatte> could update it all in one spot and save boatloads of time
[05-May-2009 20:21:33] <rmatte> same with interface templates and such
[05-May-2009 20:22:55] <sergeymasushko> sure, it would be helpful too.
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[05-May-2009 23:38:31] <DrX> How do you fix Zenoss VM doesn't see the network (because the subnet of the VM is different from the Subnet of the local network?) although I can ping my local subnet hosts?
[05-May-2009 23:38:51] <DrX> And do you/how do you install management agents on Windows servers?
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[06-May-2009 09:01:17] <rmatte> ah, I see that 2.4 is finally released, sweet
[06-May-2009 09:10:26] <kimt> all, anybody tried the Bluecoat template with success ?
[06-May-2009 09:13:11] <kimt> I can't get the graphs to show up for the SG (it's working fine for the AV)
[06-May-2009 09:27:03] <rocket> morning matt
[06-May-2009 09:32:50] <mrayzenoss> morning
[06-May-2009 09:33:04] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 is going out right now
[06-May-2009 09:34:09] <rocket> mrayzenoss: sweet ..
[06-May-2009 09:40:09] <jb> hm
[06-May-2009 09:40:22] <jb> this advanced device details zenpack looks really cool
[06-May-2009 09:45:48] <jb> i'd like to implement this stuff for my dell farms
[06-May-2009 09:46:29] <rocket> jb I will have much the same for the aix stuff .. though I am not leveraging that zenpack ..
[06-May-2009 09:46:39] <rocket> jb: since aix is just different enough .. :/
[06-May-2009 09:46:43] <jb> i havent even looked at the pack yet
[06-May-2009 09:46:44] <jb> yeah
[06-May-2009 09:46:59] <jb> the aix one would need to be custom
[06-May-2009 09:50:09] <rocket> now I am building the web interfaces for it .. and making sure the perf monitoring stuff still all works
[06-May-2009 09:51:05] <rmatte> If I wanted to generate a report on process CPU & Memory usage but not have a huge page of graphs, anyone know how I'd go about it?
[06-May-2009 09:51:14] <rmatte> like, I basically want a report that's like...
[06-May-2009 09:51:16] <rmatte> Device
[06-May-2009 09:51:24] <rmatte> process: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:28] <rmatte> process2: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:30] <rmatte> Device:
[06-May-2009 09:51:32] <rmatte> process: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:34] <rocket> jb: but this is showing up now "os /rootvg /hd11admin /admin"
[06-May-2009 09:51:35] <rmatte> process2: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:36] <rmatte> etc...
[06-May-2009 09:51:59] <rmatte> If I have to script it I'd be cool with that, just looking for a simple enough solution and wondering if anyone has done anything like this before
[06-May-2009 09:52:19] <rocket> rmatte: look at the dev guide on scripting reports .. and then post it as a zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:52:31] <chudler> I also made an (unreleased) "advanced details" zenpack for Sun ILOMS. It is strikingly similar to the HP one.
[06-May-2009 09:52:48] <jb> chudler: was it much work?
[06-May-2009 09:52:48] <mrayzenoss> BTW, brand-new version of the Dev Guide for 2.4
[06-May-2009 09:52:50] <rmatte> alright, I haven't really done much in terms of scripting reports, should be interesting
[06-May-2009 09:53:03] <rmatte> and if I do get anything working I'll definitely release it as a zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:53:04] <chudler> jb: yes, about a solid week or so
[06-May-2009 09:53:15] <mrayzenoss> actually, all the guides got revamped and we added the new Extended Monitoring Guide
[06-May-2009 09:53:18] <rmatte> I've got a few things I want to release as zenpacks eventually
[06-May-2009 09:53:50] <jb> i have one I need to release as well
[06-May-2009 09:54:03] <jb> just having a few problems trying to package it
[06-May-2009 09:54:10] <mrayzenoss> we're gonna be starting up another ZenPack contest in the next week or so
[06-May-2009 09:54:51] <rmatte> one zenpack which I'm about half way through developing is a zenpack for SNMP monitoring on Windows servers for monitoring without having to use SNMP Informant
[06-May-2009 09:55:27] <rmatte> So far I have a script that hunts down the correct memory OID for each server and collects the data, calculates percent in use, then feeds the values to Zenoss
[06-May-2009 09:55:33] <jb> i need to rebuild my windows WMI templates
[06-May-2009 09:55:47] <jb> im currently using an old zenpack named "WMIPerformanceMonitor" that pulls stats via WMI with a perl script
[06-May-2009 09:56:00] <jb> i need to convert them all to winperfmon
[06-May-2009 09:56:13] <rmatte> yeh, that WMIPerformanceMonitor is annoying because when a command fails it spits out the username and password
[06-May-2009 09:56:23] <jb> i nkow.. but the graphs are nice
[06-May-2009 09:56:25] <rmatte> I modified it not to do that, but my modification is flawed, another thing I need to fix
[06-May-2009 09:56:25] <jb> :/
[06-May-2009 09:56:41] <jb> you don't get any of those graphs out of the box
[06-May-2009 09:56:43] <jb> with winperf
[06-May-2009 09:56:48] <jb> (in enterprise)
[06-May-2009 09:57:14] <rmatte> really?
[06-May-2009 09:57:18] <rocket> gotta run to a meeting .. bbiab
[06-May-2009 09:57:22] <rmatte> I thought you'd at least get CPU, memory, and paging
[06-May-2009 09:57:22] <jb> metting here too
[06-May-2009 09:57:26] <jb> yeah you do
[06-May-2009 09:57:33] <jb> but not io/disk queue/etc
[06-May-2009 09:57:38] <jb> and the CPU graph isn't as detailed
[06-May-2009 09:57:58] <jb> i just need to take the time and covert them all
[06-May-2009 09:59:08] <jb> im definetely going to take a look at this HP Proliant zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:59:11] <jb> and try to make one similar for dell
[06-May-2009 10:00:06] <chudler> jb: I am also writing one for Dell, but it will take me some time (weeks) to complete.
[06-May-2009 10:00:16] <chudler> Also, I only have a few dells to test with at the moment.
[06-May-2009 10:24:08] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: The upgrade instructions didn't get any better with this version.
[06-May-2009 10:24:24] <mrayzenoss> which part?
[06-May-2009 10:24:47] <gemineye> Page 22, Upgrading the bin Stack Installer
[06-May-2009 10:26:16] <mrayzenoss> what's missing?
[06-May-2009 10:26:34] <gemineye> I'm looking for the notes you sent me when I upgraded to 2.3.3
[06-May-2009 10:27:05] <rmatte> I found that the upgrade directions for the stack installer were fine
[06-May-2009 10:27:16] <rmatte> Unless you're anti-technical
[06-May-2009 10:27:17] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: were you going stack to stack?
[06-May-2009 10:27:25] <gemineye> yes, stack to stack
[06-May-2009 10:28:07] <mrayzenoss> I'm sorry I don't remember what the issue was that we worked around for you 2.3.3 upgrade... is it possible that we fixed it in the installer? There are a bunch of fixes
[06-May-2009 10:30:00] <rmatte> I saw the list of fixes for 2.4, pretty good
[06-May-2009 10:30:14] <rmatte> I like all the backend fixes
[06-May-2009 10:30:22] <mrayzenoss> yeah, those will keep coming
[06-May-2009 10:30:30] <mrayzenoss> unfortunately we hit a blocker yesterday and had to release note it
[06-May-2009 10:30:31] <rmatte> no doubt
[06-May-2009 10:30:39] <rmatte> a blocker?
[06-May-2009 10:30:41] <mrayzenoss> so we're revving 2.4.1
[06-May-2009 10:30:54] <mrayzenoss> it's in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:31:11] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4949
[06-May-2009 10:31:23] <rmatte> I read through them, I assume it's that error mentioned, something about removing a windows device and having it stop monitoring all devices except the removed ones?
[06-May-2009 10:31:28] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[06-May-2009 10:31:31] <rmatte> ah
[06-May-2009 10:31:38] <mrayzenoss> we're putting together a 2.4.1 now
[06-May-2009 10:31:41] <rmatte> yeh, that's actually pretty brutal, is that a common occurance?
[06-May-2009 10:31:44] <mrayzenoss> no
[06-May-2009 10:31:52] <gemineye> ohh, that's a bad one
[06-May-2009 10:31:59] <rmatte> I'll wait for 2.4.1 then
[06-May-2009 10:32:05] <rmatte> any estimate on release date?
[06-May-2009 10:32:09] <mrayzenoss> next week
[06-May-2009 10:32:12] <rmatte> nice
[06-May-2009 10:32:18] <gemineye> Will there be a patch in the mean time or should we just wait till next week?
[06-May-2009 10:32:20] <mrayzenoss> we're generating artifacts for it now
[06-May-2009 10:32:23] <aclark> mrayzenoss: hi! did you catch my tweet re: zenoss install via zc.buildout?
[06-May-2009 10:32:24] <mrayzenoss> the patch is in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:32:39] <mrayzenoss> aclark: yeah, I started an internal email thread about it
[06-May-2009 10:32:57] <rmatte> there's already a patch listed I believe
[06-May-2009 10:33:00] <mrayzenoss> Ian is working on a Zope 2.11 sandbox right now and is working with a buildout
[06-May-2009 10:33:02] <rmatte> in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:33:23] <mrayzenoss> aclark: we're looking at dropping the Make build and switching to a buildout
[06-May-2009 10:33:31] <rmatte> and Matt just mentioned that and I missed it because I've had little sleep and too much coffee
[06-May-2009 10:33:51] <rmatte> and I have to go lend a hand dismantling cubicles shortly, yay
[06-May-2009 10:37:05] <aclark> mrayzenoss: very cool, is any of that public yet? i've got a buildout that does mysql, rrdtool, and Zope and i can start Zope w/the zenoss products from svn… but I'm stuck on "the rest" which i think at this point means digging through install.sh to see what additional setup is done…
[06-May-2009 10:37:16] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: if there's something that is inconsistent or wrong, let us know. We'll refresh the docs independent of releases
[06-May-2009 10:37:27] <mrayzenoss> let me check with Ian
[06-May-2009 10:37:29] <aclark> mrayzenoss: i can create a zport, for example, but not much else ;-)
[06-May-2009 10:37:34] <gemineye> I'm still looking for the darn notes you gave me
[06-May-2009 10:38:59] <aclark> mrayzenoss: or maybe a doc that describes what's done in the install.sh you could point me at? haven't found anything poking around. i know it's basically populate mysql db and create some zope objs…
[06-May-2009 10:39:17] <mrayzenoss> __ian__ can probably explain more than me
[06-May-2009 10:39:19] <__ian__> aclark: No such doc exists.
[06-May-2009 10:39:39] <aclark> __ian__: ok then the shell scripts themselves will have to do I guess :-)
[06-May-2009 10:39:53] <__ian__> There's a single command, however, that does a bunch
[06-May-2009 10:41:15] <__ian__> That is, the post-install steps. That's all in build-functions.sh, in the configure function
[06-May-2009 10:41:27] <__ian__> still means poring over code, though.
[06-May-2009 10:43:09] <__ian__> You can also look at inst/zenwipe.sh, which is a reset script
[06-May-2009 10:43:28] <__ian__> that does a bunch of the same stuff, but isn't broken up into separate functions.
[06-May-2009 10:43:50] <aclark> __ian__: ah i see thanks, so create the mysql db and import events, create zope and zeo, start zeo, create zope objs and start zope then get happy
[06-May-2009 10:44:07] <__ian__> right.
[06-May-2009 10:44:26] <rmatte> does anyone know what the name of the image is for the top bar in Zenoss?
[06-May-2009 10:44:46] <rmatte> I just want to grab it and swap out the Zenoss logo for ours since clients will be logging in to it
[06-May-2009 10:45:26] <__ian__> if you just want the logo, it's logo.png I believe. You can do it in the ZMI.
[06-May-2009 10:45:44] <__ian__> but otherwise I believe it lives in ZenModel/skins/zenmodel
[06-May-2009 10:46:00] <rmatte> it won't allow me to save the image in ZMI
[06-May-2009 10:47:53] <rmatte> logo.gif apparently
[06-May-2009 10:48:06] <__ian__> Whoa, what version?
[06-May-2009 10:48:08] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I found the notes and emailed you the chat session. Now I have to go interview someone.
[06-May-2009 10:48:29] <aclark> __ian__, mrayzenoss thanks I'm going to take a stab at that, and may blog about the results (http://aclark.net) in case you are interested
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[06-May-2009 10:48:43] <adytum-bot> Title: ACLARK.NET, LLC (at aclark.net)
[06-May-2009 10:48:59] <aclark> nice bot :-)
[06-May-2009 10:49:16] <__ian__> aclark: Totally interested, as I've gotten about halfway there myself. We've briefly raised the possibility of switching to buildout, though I dunno how much traction that'll get. I personally am all over it.
[06-May-2009 10:50:13] <aclark> __ian__: cool! i hope to provide some impetus
[06-May-2009 10:55:02] <aclark> w00t congrats on 2.4 btw
[06-May-2009 10:55:21] <rocket> mrayzenoss: where are the release notes?
[06-May-2009 10:55:50] <rocket> mrayzenoss: getting a page does not exist warning for this url
[06-May-2009 10:55:55] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Zenoss_Release_Notes_Version_2.4.0.pdf
[06-May-2009 10:57:50] <jb> chudler: im also going to look at writing one for dell..
[06-May-2009 12:22:28] <hector__> hmmmm
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[06-May-2009 12:31:13] <xulfer> I'm having some issues with multi-graph reports. I'm trying to create one displaying interface throughput on several devices. I have a collection, a graph definition pointing at ifInOctets/ifOutOctets, and a graph group. When I go to the report page I see graph boxes, but they're empty, or have question marks inside them.
[06-May-2009 12:31:18] <xulfer> Anyone have any ideas?
[06-May-2009 12:31:27] <mrayzenoss> rocket: thanks for the catch, fixed
[06-May-2009 12:33:02] <mrayzenoss> aclark: added to my huge list of RSS feeds
[06-May-2009 12:33:24] <aclark> mrayzenoss: cool!
[06-May-2009 12:34:07] <cluther> xulfer: Use "ifInOctets_ifInOctets" as the name if the data point.
[06-May-2009 12:34:15] <rocket> mrayzenoss: still not working here ..
[06-May-2009 12:34:16] <cluther> xulfer: dataSource_dataPoint
[06-May-2009 12:34:26] <mrayzenoss> rocket: now try
[06-May-2009 12:34:52] <rocket> cluther: hey bud ..
[06-May-2009 12:34:56] <rocket> mrayzenoss: nope
[06-May-2009 12:35:20] <xulfer> Ah, let me try that
[06-May-2009 12:35:52] <mrayzenoss> rocket: which page are you looking at? I updated the blog post and the docs page
[06-May-2009 12:36:15] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[06-May-2009 12:36:25] <rocket> clicking 2.4.0 release notes link
[06-May-2009 12:36:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 12:36:34] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Zenoss_Release_Notes_Version_2.4.0.pdf
[06-May-2009 12:36:46] <rocket> that page is missing "Our apologies..."
[06-May-2009 12:36:50] <mrayzenoss> rocket: reload the page
[06-May-2009 12:36:53] <mrayzenoss> we fixed the link
[06-May-2009 12:36:57] <mrayzenoss> not the destination
[06-May-2009 12:37:24] <rocket> ah I see .. it now works .. was reloading .. must have been cached in our proxy
[06-May-2009 12:38:09] <jb> hm i need to figure out how to handle my windows stuff
[06-May-2009 12:38:25] <jb> looks like the AD/Exchange stuff in 2.4 has been moved to /Devices/Server/Windows/WMI/..
[06-May-2009 12:38:43] <jb> i wonder if I upgrade my existing 2.3.3 to 2.4, if it will bind the templates to their existing locations, or move them to this new one?
[06-May-2009 12:38:55] <jmp242> mmm
[06-May-2009 12:42:08] <xulfer> cluther: I was already using those values it turns out.
[06-May-2009 12:43:41] <cluther> xulfer: Did you choose the specific interfaces in your collection, or devices?
[06-May-2009 12:43:59] <xulfer> No.
[06-May-2009 12:44:25] <xulfer> So would I have to individual pick each device, and each interface?
[06-May-2009 12:44:31] <xulfer> *individually
[06-May-2009 12:44:36] <cluther> To get components on a multi-graph report, yes.
[06-May-2009 12:44:40] <cluther> I'm afraid so.
[06-May-2009 12:44:52] <xulfer> Ah, so there's no way to group it then? They're all like devices.
[06-May-2009 12:44:55] <cluther> They're more geared towards device-level metrics.
[06-May-2009 12:45:03] <rocket> cluther: I am making good progress on my multidepth device development now
[06-May-2009 12:45:19] <xulfer> Hm, so I'm not really getting any advantage from multi-graph at all then
[06-May-2009 12:45:35] <cluther> xulfer: The only advantage would be that you can put all of the metrics on the same graph if you want.
[06-May-2009 12:45:43] <cluther> rocket: Cool.
[06-May-2009 12:46:02] <xulfer> Yeah, which is something I wanted to do for fun.
[06-May-2009 12:48:13] <rocket> cluther: I just have to make the page templates
[06-May-2009 12:48:36] <rocket> cluther: overall its pretty nifty ..
[06-May-2009 12:51:51] <xulfer> cluther: Thanks, that worked!
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenwinperf:Remote exception: exceptions.AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'Traceback (most recent call last):
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py", line 52, in inner
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> return callable(*args, **kw)
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/ThresholdMixin.py", line 22, in remote_getThresholdClasses
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> for pack in self.dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[06-May-2009 13:09:58] <jb> any idea what this is telilng me?
[06-May-2009 13:10:15] <jb> during a zenwinperf run of one device
[06-May-2009 13:10:22] <DrX> can Zenoss automatically email usage reports such as disk usage, top processes, and critical event logs events periodically?
[06-May-2009 13:10:37] <cluther> jb: There is a broken ZenPack. If you have installed/updated/removed any zenpacks you should restart Zenoss.
[06-May-2009 13:10:50] <jb> ah ok.. yeah, im updating the Device_WMI template
[06-May-2009 13:10:52] <jb> to include more graphs
[06-May-2009 13:11:19] <jb> trying to get rid of this old "WMIPerformanceMonitor" pack
[06-May-2009 13:12:48] <jb> argh, ive broken something
[06-May-2009 13:13:17] <DrX> (how) do you install agents on Windows Servers?
[06-May-2009 13:13:24] <jb> there is no agent..
[06-May-2009 13:13:35] <jb> zenoss monitors windows servers via WMI or SNMP (or both)
[06-May-2009 13:14:10] <DrX> jb: then how do you monitor servers outside the Zenoss VM (e.g., the VMWare host and other network attached servers)?
[06-May-2009 13:14:30] <jb> via WMI and SNMP
[06-May-2009 13:14:33] <jb> over your IP network
[06-May-2009 13:14:57] <DrX> jb: how do I configure that?
[06-May-2009 13:15:04] <jb> have you read the docs?
[06-May-2009 13:15:12] <jb> you are asking rather basic questions
[06-May-2009 13:15:23] <DrX> jb: I don't see any docs...
[06-May-2009 13:15:29] <jb> where are you looking?
[06-May-2009 13:15:31] <DrX> jb: I downloaded the VM
[06-May-2009 13:15:37] <jb> surely not http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[06-May-2009 13:15:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 13:17:55] <jb> hm, I shouldn't have edited this zenpack.. should have created a new one with these new graphs.
[06-May-2009 13:19:43] <DrX> jb: I installed the VM (in NAT mode) which is on the 192.168.n.n network but my internal networkk is 172.16.n.n -- is that going to work?
[06-May-2009 13:20:20] <jb> DrX: i can't answer questions about your network.. if 192.168.0.0/16 can reach 172.16.0.0/16, then yeah, it will work..
[06-May-2009 13:21:03] <jb> cluther: think I should just reinstall the ZenWinPerf zenpack?
[06-May-2009 13:21:39] <rocket> jb: if you havent made too many changes to it I would
[06-May-2009 13:21:54] <rocket> jb: unless you can fix it easily first
[06-May-2009 13:22:00] <jb> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[06-May-2009 13:22:04] <jb> just a bunch of those
[06-May-2009 13:22:09] <jb> but i'm not sure what its referring to..
[06-May-2009 13:22:14] <DrX> jb:I mainly want to monitor the VMWAre host system from the Zenoss VMWare guest... will VMWare handle the router?
[06-May-2009 13:22:21] <DrX> router=routing
[06-May-2009 13:22:39] <jb> DrX: you can always test..
[06-May-2009 13:22:56] <jb> can you reach your vmhost from your vmguest?
[06-May-2009 13:23:01] <xulfer> Hm, is there any way I could customize the name/title of each graph in a multi-graph?
[06-May-2009 13:23:32] <DrX> jb: if you mean ping, yes
[06-May-2009 13:23:38] <jb> ok, so whats your question?
[06-May-2009 13:23:47] <jb> its working..
[06-May-2009 13:25:30] <DrX> jb: that was my question... just whether or not the VMWare host and other network peers to the host had to be on the same subnet or not as the guest
[06-May-2009 13:25:57] <jb> DrX: if you able to ping your guest, and vice versa, then yes, network connectivity is working.
[06-May-2009 13:28:28] <DrX> jb: I can ping the host from the VM guest, but I cannot ping the VM guest from the host.
[06-May-2009 13:28:57] <jb> i'm not sure what to tell you.. that is a vmware/network related problem
[06-May-2009 13:29:12] <DrX> jb: should I have used bridge mode instead of NAT mode?
[06-May-2009 13:29:28] <jb> try?
[06-May-2009 13:29:42] <jb> rocket: hrm, no way to cleanly uninstall/reinstall this one.
[06-May-2009 13:31:09] <mrayzenoss> DrX: bridged is probably what you want. The Zenoss VM will be part of your standard network
[06-May-2009 13:33:42] <erik123> hello?
[06-May-2009 13:34:11] <mrayzenoss> looking for someone?
[06-May-2009 13:34:11] <jb> hi
[06-May-2009 13:34:35] <erik123> i have a problem upgrading to zenoss 2.4
[06-May-2009 13:34:51] <erik123> according to the install document:
[06-May-2009 13:35:11] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I upgraded to 2.4 but for some reason the maps aren't displaying at an optimized zoom level. Is that something new?
[06-May-2009 13:35:13] <erik123> If upgrading from Version 2.3 to Version 2.4, run this command to upgrade your Zenoss instance:
[06-May-2009 13:35:27] <erik123> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//core-2.4
[06-May-2009 13:35:50] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I hope not
[06-May-2009 13:36:34] <erik123> however, i get an error saying group-zenoss not found on branch
[06-May-2009 13:39:24] <erik123> any ideas?
[06-May-2009 13:40:09] <erik123> 8.4. Upgrading the Zenoss Virtual Appliance Image
[06-May-2009 13:41:56] <mrayzenoss> erik123: if you post your findings on a thread, I'll have our build engineer look at it
[06-May-2009 13:42:06] <mrayzenoss> he's got some corrupted .bin installers to deal with right now
[06-May-2009 13:42:51] <erik123> ok thanks. i saw that thread with the mis-matching md5s
[06-May-2009 13:44:55] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I think I've recreated that
[06-May-2009 13:45:05] <mrayzenoss> single location on a map, zoomed completely in?
[06-May-2009 13:47:59] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: Yup, I'm having mapping problems. It seems to think my California office is in Spain, and it put one of our Canada offices in the middle of the ocean. Maps also aren't displaying correctly sometimes.
[06-May-2009 13:49:29] <mrayzenoss> can anyone else recreate this? we're looking at it internally
[06-May-2009 13:54:49] <gemineye> It's having a lot of trouble just displaying the maps and when I go to a location that has no sub locations, it displays at super zoom but never the correct address. Unless some of our offices are in Atlantis.
[06-May-2009 13:55:47] <mrayzenoss> we're recreating it
[06-May-2009 13:56:57] <gemineye> I noticed something else just now, I don't know if I'm losing it though. I have an event on a Windows server indicating a disk is over 90%, but when I go to the specific disk and look at it's event list, there is no event.
[06-May-2009 13:57:13] <gemineye> I have to go interview people again. bbl
[06-May-2009 14:23:28] <jb> what keeps certain devices from not inherting templates?
[06-May-2009 14:23:35] <jb> i have templates bound to /Devices/Server/Windows
[06-May-2009 14:23:43] <jb> but some devices in this device class aren't seeing the binds
[06-May-2009 14:23:58] <mrayzenoss> have you remodeled?
[06-May-2009 14:24:14] <jb> good point
[06-May-2009 14:24:28] <jb> no change with a remodel
[06-May-2009 14:27:50] <jb> hm
[06-May-2009 14:27:51] <jb> actually
[06-May-2009 14:30:41] <jmp242> I'm back wondering on the issue I've had with zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames in 2.3.3 and /afs/ ...
[06-May-2009 14:31:20] <jmp242> is there a way to see what Zenoss is getting for filesystem names when it models the device?
[06-May-2009 14:32:34] <jb> any detail in a zenmodeler run -v10?
[06-May-2009 14:33:52] <jmp242> would a zenmodeler run -v10 devicename limit it to just that device?
[06-May-2009 14:33:58] <jb> -d devicename
[06-May-2009 14:34:03] <jb> zenmodeler run -v10 -d devicename
[06-May-2009 14:35:11] <jmp242> nothing that I can see
[06-May-2009 14:35:49] <jmp242> doesn't seem to list filesystems it's found
[06-May-2009 14:36:12] <jmp242> all I can figure is something with the regex...
[06-May-2009 14:37:00] <jmp242> nevermind - typoed the devicename - looking again
[06-May-2009 14:40:33] <jmp242> mm - still doesn't seem to list what it's getting from the plugins, but maybe I can just look at the filesystem plugin
[06-May-2009 14:42:59] <jb> hmm
[06-May-2009 14:43:01] <jb> not sure :/
[06-May-2009 14:43:15] <jb> would you happen to know how to clear all RRD data for certain graphs?
[06-May-2009 14:43:30] <jmp242> yea, neither am I, The filesystem plugin doesn't seem to list OIDs like the Templates do
[06-May-2009 14:49:08] <jmp242> ehh, nevermind - either they fixed a bug or something - our mount point is only called /afs, so of course a regex of /afs/ will fail to match
[06-May-2009 14:49:25] <jmp242> more egg on my face - thanks for the help though
[06-May-2009 14:54:59] <jb> ah
[06-May-2009 14:55:01] <jb>
[06-May-2009 14:59:48] <gemineye> jb: did you get your question answered about templates not automatically binding to a device?
[06-May-2009 15:08:07] <gemineye> I've noticed that if I manually bound templates to a device, that device won't pick up new templates it should since the bound templates are now a custom config. I would have to reset the bindings and then add or remove any templates I wanted to change from the defaults.
[06-May-2009 15:08:26] <gemineye> Has it gotten real quiet in here or is my IRC hosed again?
[06-May-2009 15:11:00] <mrayzenoss> I hear you. I'm busy putting out 2.4 fires
[06-May-2009 15:11:05] <mrayzenoss> and he's gone
[06-May-2009 15:12:23] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: Besides the mapping issue, is there anything else weird about your 2.4 install? You did a stack install right?
[06-May-2009 15:13:32] <gemineye> Yeah, I had installed 2.3.3 a week earlier and did some preliminary config. I had only added 16 devices so not the whole implementation I had done on my other Zenoss server. I'm actually about to upgrade my main one to 2.4 since I can live with the mapping problem for now.
[06-May-2009 15:14:09] <gemineye> that's the only problem I've seen so far, are there any others I might want to think about before I roll 2.4 out to my main install?
[06-May-2009 15:14:48] <mrayzenoss> well, we're re-uploading the installers based on this thread: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9651
[06-May-2009 15:15:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.4 Installation Failure -- Installation package corrupted (at forums.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 15:15:18] <gemineye> I didn't have that problem when I did the upgrade.
[06-May-2009 15:15:28] <mrayzenoss> well then, no problems
[06-May-2009 15:15:46] <mrayzenoss> so far there's the map one, which we're investigating but haven't opened a ticket for yet
[06-May-2009 15:15:52] <gemineye> I'm running it on Centos 5.3
[06-May-2009 15:15:59] <mrayzenoss> so RPM install?
[06-May-2009 15:17:35] <gemineye> But the stack install is fine right? I don't want to try it on my main system only to realize a condition exists there that might hose the box that didn't exist on my other system.
[06-May-2009 15:18:06] <mrayzenoss> the thread is about the stack installer
[06-May-2009 15:18:17] <mrayzenoss> for CentOS 5.3, I assumed you would use the RPM, but either would work
[06-May-2009 15:18:21] <gemineye> oh, ok. I guess I should wait
[06-May-2009 15:18:50] <gemineye> I got lucky with the first install, no sense in testing my luck twice, I'm not in Vegas anyways.
[06-May-2009 15:43:30] <mrayzenoss> download page is back up
[06-May-2009 16:07:18] <gemineye> Was there a change in the download file?
[06-May-2009 16:15:36] <mrayzenoss> I believe the .bin files were bad
[06-May-2009 16:29:03] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: you want to open a ticket for your map issue?
[06-May-2009 16:51:18] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I forgot how O:-)
[06-May-2009 16:52:00] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[06-May-2009 17:06:25] <kimt> Hi all, what is the best way to debug why graphs are not being produced (using the Bluecoat zenpack) ? Thanks in advance.
[06-May-2009 17:09:21] <gemineye> Did I hear Blue Coat? (It's Blue Coat, with a space) (Trust me, I know) <- sitting in IT department of Blue Coat
[06-May-2009 17:10:46] <gemineye> kimt: I'd like to answer your question but I actually haven't had a chance to look at the Blue Coat ZenPack that was made. I'm looking at seeing if I can get a Blue Coat branded ZenPack created and if that happens I'll know more about it.
[06-May-2009 17:11:33] <gemineye> kimt: are other zenpacks producing graphs? What are you seeing on the Blue Coat graphs? an error that the .rrd file doesn't exist or perhaps an nan message? or is the graph just not even there.
[06-May-2009 17:11:54] <kimt> Thanks mate I know it is spelled with a space, I am a SE
[06-May-2009 17:12:01] <kimt> are u at the Fairmount ?
[06-May-2009 17:12:08] <gemineye> in SF?
[06-May-2009 17:12:11] <kimt> yep
[06-May-2009 17:12:47] <gemineye> No, that's the sales conference. Some of my coworkers are there. I'm at headquarters keeping the lights on.
[06-May-2009 17:13:04] <gemineye> Are you in SF?
[06-May-2009 17:13:17] <kimt> but to answer your question, the AV template is working fine but the SG is not producing any perf at all
[06-May-2009 17:13:47] <kimt> yep I am in SF, nice to hear some body is keeping the business going
[06-May-2009 17:14:02] <gemineye> lemme look at one of my zenoss installs, I think I've got the zenpack bound to one of our SGs
[06-May-2009 17:14:28] <gemineye> Nope I don't... Lemme bind one.
[06-May-2009 17:14:56] <kimt> perfect, I am doing a presentation on friday, where I was hoping to be able to do a demo
[06-May-2009 17:15:14] <gemineye> A preso at the conference?
[06-May-2009 17:15:28] <kimt> se break-out on friday
[06-May-2009 17:15:40] <kimt> I used this template http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/bluecoat
[06-May-2009 17:15:50] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPacks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 17:16:32] <gemineye> I didn't create it but I can certainly look and see if I find any problems right away. I don't know how old the zenpack is but it might need updating for the new SGOS's
[06-May-2009 17:18:13] <kimt> i tried to use zenoss 2.4 which did not work, then I downgraded to 2.2 since the author wrote that version was tested ok, but same result
[06-May-2009 17:19:25] <kimt> gemineye: thanks a lot for your help
[06-May-2009 17:20:32] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: Try doing a Ctrl-Shift-R to refresh the map
[06-May-2009 17:20:52] <mrayzenoss> or Cmd-Shift-R if you're in OSX
[06-May-2009 17:21:41] <gemineye> Firefox
[06-May-2009 17:21:56] <kimt> nope still nothing
[06-May-2009 17:22:25] <kimt> I also tried to connect to a 5.2 and a 5.4
[06-May-2009 17:23:01] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: what were the addresses like? we've got a google map fix already for things that start with numbers
[06-May-2009 17:27:02] <gemineye> They all start with numbers, the addresses have building numberse
[06-May-2009 17:27:16] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's the culprit
[06-May-2009 17:27:26] <gemineye> Is there a patch?
[06-May-2009 17:27:32] <mrayzenoss> very soon
[06-May-2009 17:27:36] <mrayzenoss> opening the ticket first
[06-May-2009 17:30:51] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4966
[06-May-2009 17:31:02] <mrayzenoss> fix has been reviewed, it's now proposed
[06-May-2009 17:31:13] <mrayzenoss> Ian's attaching a patch
[06-May-2009 17:35:54] <gemineye> So kimt, None of my graphs are working, it looks like bad OIDs
[06-May-2009 17:35:58] <kimt> gemineye: think I might found the error, since the template contains 3 fanspeed datasources and i am testing towards a sg200 without fans.... waiting to see if that solved it.. need to get back to work...
[06-May-2009 17:36:18] <kimt> will be back in a couple of hours.
[06-May-2009 17:36:54] <mrayzenoss> the guy who wrote it probably only tested with a single model, not a generic enough solution
[06-May-2009 17:39:18] <kimt> most likely, I did a snmpwalk on the oid's that are in the template and the rest is working so I hope that that did the trick
[06-May-2009 17:41:40] <gemineye> The Blue Coat Zenpack I have installed is all messed up.
[06-May-2009 17:42:16] <gemineye> The OIDs are all valid, but none of the graph points match the data sources
[06-May-2009 17:42:27] <bzed> mrayzenoss: btw just for your info - I've removed your wmi stuff from debian and ubuntu. It is not maintainable security wise as it still comes with an insanely old version of Samba4. Not to forget that it is a waste of mirror space to have samba4 twice in the archive...
[06-May-2009 17:42:57] <mrayzenoss> bzed: understood
[06-May-2009 17:43:17] <mrayzenoss> bzed: we're actually trying to move to Zope 2.11/Python 2.6 again
[06-May-2009 17:43:42] <mrayzenoss> so there may be hope for showing up in the distros eventually
[06-May-2009 17:44:40] <bzed> that sounds great
[06-May-2009 17:45:02] <bzed> if you've managed to do that, I'll work on the debian packages again
[06-May-2009 17:45:04] <mrayzenoss> I'll definitely look you up when we start making real progress
[06-May-2009 17:45:09] <mrayzenoss> thanks again
[06-May-2009 17:45:13] <bzed> you're welcome
[06-May-2009 17:45:45] <bzed> hope you understand that there's no way for us to include the old zope2.8 stuff
[06-May-2009 17:46:06] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, it's way too old
[06-May-2009 17:46:13] <mrayzenoss> we got rejected by everyone
[06-May-2009 17:46:21] <mrayzenoss> Fedora, FreeBSD, Debian and Ubuntu
[06-May-2009 17:53:28] <gemineye> Finally! kimt, I was able to confirm that the Blue Coat Zenpack does in fact work.
[06-May-2009 17:54:04] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4966 has the fix
[06-May-2009 17:54:19] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: zenpatch 13442
[06-May-2009 17:54:31] <gemineye> as root or zenoss
[06-May-2009 17:54:40] <mrayzenoss> zenoss
[06-May-2009 17:55:03] <mrayzenoss> here's the fix: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/13443
[06-May-2009 17:55:12] <gemineye> do I have to restart?
[06-May-2009 17:55:27] <mrayzenoss> good question.. I doubt it since it's javascript
[06-May-2009 17:55:47] <mrayzenoss> make sure you do a force-reload on the page
[06-May-2009 17:56:12] <gemineye> Um... problem
[06-May-2009 17:58:51] <gemineye> Ok, so I have one less problem, but one new problem, and the other problems are still there.
[06-May-2009 18:00:17] <gemineye> When I'm on the dashboard it is displaying at the best zoom now, but when I click on one of the locations to map it in the portlet, opens a whole new window in the portlet
[06-May-2009 18:02:41] <gemineye> Also when I go to a site under /Locations it doesn't always draw the map.
[06-May-2009 18:02:46] <gemineye> I'm off to a meeting.
[06-May-2009 18:05:38] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to recreate, but open a ticket if you get a chance
[06-May-2009 18:05:45] <mrayzenoss> I gotta head home, be back later
[06-May-2009 23:05:40] <kimt> gemineye: Please tell me what i am missing / have done wrong
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[07-May-2009 07:33:39] <cy_`> hello
[07-May-2009 08:12:22] <rocket> morning matt
[07-May-2009 08:12:24] <rocket> morning chet
[07-May-2009 08:12:28] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[07-May-2009 08:12:57] <sergeymasushko> morning guys
[07-May-2009 08:13:16] <rocket> cluther: have time for a question?
[07-May-2009 08:17:35] <rocket> cluther: I am trying to lock a subcomponent from my os object .. but I am having a hard time getting the relation path working right ..
[07-May-2009 08:17:40] <rocket> cluther: eg something like
[07-May-2009 08:17:42] <rocket> self.volumegroup.logicalvolume.filesystem._getOb(fsid).absolute_url())
[07-May-2009 08:26:07] <cluther> rocket: It should be more complicated than that I think..
[07-May-2009 08:26:36] <cluther> self.volumegroups._getOb('vgName').logicalvolumes._getOb('lvName').filesystems._getOb('fsName')
[07-May-2009 08:26:51] <cluther> You need to get the proper object out of each relation along the way.
[07-May-2009 08:27:27] <rocket> cluther: ouch!
[07-May-2009 08:27:43] <rocket> cluther: would you setup a different relation instead?
[07-May-2009 08:27:50] <cluther> You may want to create some helper methods to keep the code clean.
[07-May-2009 08:27:54] <cluther> No.. this is right.
[07-May-2009 08:31:01] <rocket> hrmm ok ..
[07-May-2009 08:31:19] <rocket> thanks chet
[07-May-2009 08:31:36] <rocket> the trouble I go through to have the full functionality in this zenpack
[07-May-2009 08:34:44] <rocket> cluther: bah I can make this easier .. I already have the objects from a previous method .. I just need to create a custom unlockdevicecomponents method for this case
[07-May-2009 08:35:37] <rocket> just get the id param out of the objects .. compare it to the passed in string .. and call the unlock or lock method on that object ..
[07-May-2009 08:52:39] <sergeymasushko> someone tried to monitor cisco voip gateways?
[07-May-2009 08:57:30] <osd_mats> anyone here know about the "HRSWInstalledMap failed" problem?
[07-May-2009 08:57:43] <mrayzenoss> osd_mats: we're looking at it
[07-May-2009 08:57:59] <osd_mats> ok, good... Maybe put that in the topic?
[07-May-2009 09:22:20] <rocket> cluther: does it even make sense to include the add or delete filesystem methods from the os page?
[07-May-2009 09:22:43] <rocket> cluther: especially since the user would have to know which logical volume etc to put it in ..
[07-May-2009 09:23:01] <rocket> cluther: would you just strip them out and just include the locking methods?
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[07-May-2009 10:55:44] <lguest> hhmm, no chat?
[07-May-2009 10:58:55] <perr0> what do you want to chat about
[07-May-2009 10:59:16] <rigeld2> We're changing about 100 ips in our datacenter in a few weeks.. is there a config file somewhere that I can run a script against to change the IPs, do I have to do it manually, or are they stored in the database somewhere?
[07-May-2009 11:00:28] <perr0> that is a good question, I wonder if you do an auto discovery will do this for you
[07-May-2009 11:01:27] <rigeld2> Hrm. I doubt it, but I could try... after we do it. Was trying to investigate before the major change.
[07-May-2009 11:06:46] <lguest> anyone see issues when deleting devices? when we do a few at a time all the heartbeats timeout for over 10 min
[07-May-2009 11:15:13] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: I'd think you need to write a zendmd script to find each device and update the IP address
[07-May-2009 11:18:33] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: something like dev = find("yourhostname")
[07-May-2009 11:18:50] <mrayzenoss> dev.setManageIp('10.0.111.5')
[07-May-2009 11:18:56] <mrayzenoss> in a script
[07-May-2009 11:22:30] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: take a look at something like http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/scotts-batch-loader
[07-May-2009 11:22:38] <rmatte> weird, Zenoss saw 2 ports go down a while ago and still thinks they are down
[07-May-2009 11:22:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Scott's Batch Loader - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-May-2009 11:24:13] <rmatte> although it doesn't show them passing traffic
[07-May-2009 11:24:57] <rmatte> time to remodel and see if that fixes it
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[07-May-2009 11:59:26] <caseyh2007> Hows it going everyone? I am trying to upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0 on FreeBSD 7.0 but I ran into an issue I can't figure out
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[07-May-2009 11:59:58] <caseyh2007> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[07-May-2009 12:00:00] <caseyh2007> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[07-May-2009 12:00:02] <caseyh2007> ./libxml/encoding.h:29:19: error: iconv.h: No such file or directory
[07-May-2009 12:00:04] <caseyh2007> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[07-May-2009 12:00:06] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[07-May-2009 12:00:08] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[07-May-2009 12:00:10] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[07-May-2009 12:00:12] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[07-May-2009 12:00:14] <caseyh2007> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[07-May-2009 12:00:16] <caseyh2007> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[07-May-2009 12:00:18] <caseyh2007> ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[07-May-2009 12:00:20] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[07-May-2009 12:00:22] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[07-May-2009 12:00:24] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[07-May-2009 12:00:26] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[07-May-2009 12:00:28] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17.
[07-May-2009 12:00:30] <caseyh2007> gmake: *** [/home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/rrddeps-build] Error 1
[07-May-2009 12:00:32] <caseyh2007> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[07-May-2009 12:00:44] <caseyh2007> and zenbuild.log has nothing in it about this
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[08-May-2009 10:27:19] <rocket> Hello
[08-May-2009 10:27:24] <mrayzenoss> weird
[08-May-2009 10:27:37] <mrayzenoss> apparently the channel was set to moderated
[08-May-2009 10:27:50] <rocket> hrmmm
[08-May-2009 10:28:18] <mrayzenoss> probably my fault
[08-May-2009 10:28:33] <mrayzenoss> if anyone ever has issues with the channel, email me ASAP
[08-May-2009 10:29:05] <rocket> sure not a problem
[08-May-2009 10:29:12] <rocket> I just logged in and noticed it
[08-May-2009 10:29:29] <rocket> though it would be nice to get the bot to auto voice me
[08-May-2009 10:32:14] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I have a question regarding my zenpack ui .. whom should I talk to .. I would like to keep it as consistent as possible but aix's quirks make it a little troublesome
[08-May-2009 10:32:35] * coofamani shreaks... aix
[08-May-2009 10:33:35] <mrayzenoss_> rocket: I'd say continue to bug Chet and Ian when you see them in the channel, or the dev or zenpacks lists
[08-May-2009 10:35:54] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: ok
[08-May-2009 10:36:26] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: would you find it acceptable to remove the "add filesystem, remove filesystem options" from my zenpacks menus?
[08-May-2009 10:36:44] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: its a little complicated to keep them as right now they are broken
[08-May-2009 10:37:02] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: since filesystems location is under a different containter etc
[08-May-2009 10:37:42] <rocket> and does it really make sense to manually add a filesystem to a logical volume when the modeller picks it up?
[08-May-2009 10:38:15] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I dont really see the need .. but thats where someone else with more time under zenoss might shed some light
[08-May-2009 10:41:35] <cluther> rocket: We're constantly debating this manual addition of components.
[08-May-2009 10:41:46] <cluther> cluther: I agree with you. Let the stuff be modeled.
[08-May-2009 10:41:52] <cluther> rocket: Remove the menus.
[08-May-2009 10:42:19] <cluther> hmm.. I was agreeing with you, rocket, not myself.
[08-May-2009 10:42:38] <rocket> cluther: ok I will support the locking methods but drop the add and remove menus
[08-May-2009 10:42:56] <rocket> cluther: I will implement my own menu name so it doesnt mess with the real filesystems menu etc ..
[08-May-2009 10:43:27] <rocket> cluther: sound reasonable to you?
[08-May-2009 10:43:37] <cluther> Completely.
[08-May-2009 10:43:59] <jb> hey rocket
[08-May-2009 10:44:00] <jb> and cluther
[08-May-2009 10:44:01] <rocket> Great .. thanks
[08-May-2009 10:44:04] <rocket> hey jb
[08-May-2009 10:44:30] <rocket> cluther: I did have something weird happen when I was in the development of this zenpack
[08-May-2009 10:44:54] <rocket> cluther: seems the objects for the templates disappeared out of the zope database
[08-May-2009 10:45:09] <rocket> cluther: have no idea what happened .. just poof they were gone ..
[08-May-2009 10:45:28] <rocket> cluther: cant replicate .. just thought it was weird ..
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[08-May-2009 10:47:07] <rocket> mrayzenoss: you seem to loose connectivity quite often
[08-May-2009 10:47:46] <mrayzenoss> office to a meeting
[08-May-2009 10:48:21] <rmatte> he's almost seamless in his office to meeting transitions, but not quite
[08-May-2009 10:48:40] <rmatte>
[08-May-2009 10:48:48] <jb> mrayzenoss: screen works wonders
[08-May-2009 10:48:58] <rmatte> screen is awesome
[08-May-2009 10:49:09] <jb> . Client Running Since Thu Feb 14 10:28:18 2008
[08-May-2009 10:49:09] <jb> | Client Uptime: 449d 0h 20m 46s
[08-May-2009 10:49:14] <jb>
[08-May-2009 10:49:19] <rmatte> nice
[08-May-2009 10:49:43] <rmatte> my server hasn't even been up that long, but then again I had a power outage, otherwise it would be at almost a year
[08-May-2009 10:49:47] <rmatte> power outage = electrical fire
[08-May-2009 10:49:52] <rmatte> my UPS couldn't hold out
[08-May-2009 10:49:55] <rmatte> 11:29:35 up 201 days, 11:59, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[08-May-2009 10:50:01] <rmatte> and now, I'm moving to a new apartment
[08-May-2009 10:50:05] <rmatte> so bye bye uptime
[08-May-2009 10:51:09] <jb> 11:51AM up 910 days, 17:01, 29 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.11, 0.08
[08-May-2009 10:51:10] <jb> :/
[08-May-2009 10:51:17] <rmatte> wow
[08-May-2009 10:51:23] <rmatte> crazy uptime
[08-May-2009 10:51:34] <rmatte> probably hosted in an actual data center though I'm assuming?
[08-May-2009 10:51:44] <jb> yeah
[08-May-2009 10:51:45] <rocket> hrmmm me looks for kernel bugs in jb's system ..
[08-May-2009 10:51:49] <jb> its an fbsd 5.5 box
[08-May-2009 10:51:52] <jb> dont hack me
[08-May-2009 10:51:55] <rmatte> haha
[08-May-2009 10:51:59] <rmatte> that's so oldschool
[08-May-2009 10:52:29] <jb> i keep forgetting im not spoofed on this network.
[08-May-2009 10:52:34] <rmatte> 29 users?
[08-May-2009 10:52:47] <jb> yeah
[08-May-2009 10:52:52] <rmatte> business server I'm guessing
[08-May-2009 10:52:57] <jb> not really
[08-May-2009 10:53:40] <rmatte> did you buy the server then colo it?
[08-May-2009 10:54:18] <jb> it's a friends box..
[08-May-2009 10:54:20] <jb> not mine
[08-May-2009 10:54:21] <rmatte> ah
[08-May-2009 10:54:43] <rmatte> one of my friends has a server in his house that has been up for almost 500 days
[08-May-2009 10:54:46] <rmatte> OpenBSD box
[08-May-2009 11:03:37] <perr0> BSDs rawks
[08-May-2009 11:06:50] <gemineye> Um, I thought this problem was fixed when doing a stack upgrade to 2.4... Error copying file from packed archive /root/zenoss-stack-2.4.0-linux-x64.bin to /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin
[08-May-2009 11:10:56] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: Did this hose my upgrade?
[08-May-2009 11:12:09] <rmatte> probably didn't hose it, but definitely a roadblock
[08-May-2009 11:12:54] <gemineye> I had better luck yesterday with a different upgrade. I'm going to do a full restore of /usr/local/zenoss and try again with the installer I downloaded yesterday that worked.
[08-May-2009 11:23:12] <gemineye> Does anyone have an idea of how long an upgrade might take with around 200 monitored systems?
[08-May-2009 11:30:09] <PrimeHaxor> someone have some zenpack for tomcat ?
[08-May-2009 11:32:01] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: I don't think this is a core package?
[08-May-2009 11:32:36] <perr0> not free atleast
[08-May-2009 11:33:10] <PrimeHaxor> perr0, on the core don't have any thing related with tomcat =[
[08-May-2009 11:33:59] <perr0> don't think so
[08-May-2009 11:38:58] <jb> TomcatMonitor is an enterprise pack..
[08-May-2009 11:39:09] <gemineye> Good, full restore from backup successful and upgrade from stack installer downloaded yesterday, not today, worked.
[08-May-2009 11:39:14] <jb> it shouldn't be too hard to create though.. it uses JMX
[08-May-2009 11:50:17] <perr0> jb: JMX is web development?
[08-May-2009 11:53:17] <perr0> I don't think this would work for me, I am not on the development end in my case, I did find this thread on monitoring Tomcat with JMX extensions
[08-May-2009 11:53:22] <perr0> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.programmer/2007-02/msg02293.html
[08-May-2009 11:53:32] <adytum-bot> Title: how to monitor tomcat (at coding.derkeiler.com)
[08-May-2009 11:55:33] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: maybe if you google: nagios tomcat plugin you can get help that way
[08-May-2009 11:57:37] <gene_> morning all. I've got a bit of an odd problem so I thought I'd throw it out there, see if anyone had seen this before. I've gotten zenoss up and working with LDAP authentication against an Active Directory domain (based off of these instructions http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ). I've built up another zenoss server and attempted to configure it to authenticate against our other Active Directory domain, and am ha
[08-May-2009 11:57:41] <gene_> http://pastebin.com/m6371778f
[08-May-2009 11:57:47] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 11:57:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-May-2009 11:58:35] <rmatte> "/\Du#▒$K▒/▒˹▒" --- odd ID
[08-May-2009 11:58:57] <gene_> absolutely
[08-May-2009 11:59:36] <gene_> I would think that it's some ephemeral corruption in the zope DB however when a new user attempts to login who never has before, their ID is also odd and malformed
[08-May-2009 12:01:32] <rmatte> hmmm, no idea
[08-May-2009 12:02:38] <gene_> I'm figuring at this point I'll just try building a new system from scratch on a VM and seeing if I get the problem again. I know the process works since I've got it working for a different AD domain.
[08-May-2009 12:02:55] <cluther> gene_: You can likely fix it..
[08-May-2009 12:03:11] <cluther> gene_: Go to /zport/acl_users/manage
[08-May-2009 12:03:22] <cluther> gene_: Click into your LDAP plugin and go to its Properties tab
[08-May-2009 12:03:37] <cluther> gene_: Change the groupid_attr to cn
[08-May-2009 12:03:58] <gene_> cluther : trying, one moment
[08-May-2009 12:04:17] <cluther> gene_: Then go to the Contents tab and click in the the acl_users
[08-May-2009 12:04:55] <cluther> Make sure that all three of the user properties are sAMAccountName
[08-May-2009 12:05:47] <cluther> The pastebin makes it look like the Windows GUID is being used for something where we really need a simple user ID.
[08-May-2009 12:06:51] <mrayzenoss> perr0: check the new Extended Monitoring Guide for ZenJMX. It's well-documented: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[08-May-2009 12:07:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 12:07:04] <gene_> cluther : !!! wow, very nice.
[08-May-2009 12:07:09] <gene_> cluther : here's what I did
[08-May-2009 12:07:26] <mrayzenoss> ahh, that was meant for PrimeHaxor who left
[08-May-2009 12:07:26] <gene_> the groupid_attr was set to "objectGUID" which I changed to "cn"
[08-May-2009 12:07:37] <perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you much for that. I will look into it.
[08-May-2009 12:07:52] <mrayzenoss> need to advertise that new doc more, it's awesome
[08-May-2009 12:08:04] <gene_> the "User ID Attribute" was set to objectGUID (which should have been samAccountName). I set that one to samAccountName and it worked. I knew about the latter (not sure how it was wrong) but not the former
[08-May-2009 12:08:39] <gene_> cluther : Thank you very very much. Kind of amazed you caught that one
[08-May-2009 12:08:50] <gene_> cluther : I'll add these details to our build documentation. Thank you!
[08-May-2009 12:08:58] <gemineye> Argh, mrayzenoss, I've got "that problem" again.
[08-May-2009 12:09:05] <rmatte> cluther == zenguru
[08-May-2009 12:09:10] <cluther> gene_: Cool.
[08-May-2009 12:09:11] <gene_> rmatte : word
[08-May-2009 12:09:40] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: which one?
[08-May-2009 12:09:55] <gemineye> I have a bunch of WinServices that Zenoss claims aren't being monitored, but I'm getting alerts on them.
[08-May-2009 12:10:21] <gemineye> It started after I upgraded to 2.4
[08-May-2009 12:11:06] <rmatte> gemineye: it might be something along the lines of the problem that I was experiencing not too long ago...
[08-May-2009 12:11:12] <rmatte> try this:
[08-May-2009 12:11:24] <rmatte> execute zendmd from the command line
[08-May-2009 12:11:30] <gemineye> and run reindex()?
[08-May-2009 12:11:34] <rmatte> yessier
[08-May-2009 12:11:39] <gemineye> tried that, no go
[08-May-2009 12:11:39] <rmatte> then commit()
[08-May-2009 12:11:46] <gemineye> oh... didn't know about the commit() part
[08-May-2009 12:11:48] <rmatte> then you need to remodel the devices that are complaining
[08-May-2009 12:12:06] <rmatte> only remodel if the alerts don't go away after the commit
[08-May-2009 12:12:32] <gemineye> I ran a reindex() but exited zendmd, do I have to run reindex() again or can I just run commit()?
[08-May-2009 12:12:38] <rmatte> yes, you do
[08-May-2009 12:12:56] <rmatte> when you exited you flushed the reindex that was in memory
[08-May-2009 12:13:00] <gemineye> bummer
[08-May-2009 12:13:04] <rmatte> yup
[08-May-2009 12:20:53] <mrayzenoss> for those of you keeping score at home, I'm now back in my office
[08-May-2009 12:23:09] <rmatte> haha
[08-May-2009 12:23:18] <rmatte> I figured as much
[08-May-2009 12:26:48] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: It took you 14 seconds to switch over, why so slow?
[08-May-2009 12:27:58] <cluther> mrayzenoss: You go to too many meetings.
[08-May-2009 12:28:39] <mrayzenoss> wireless off, ethernet on
[08-May-2009 13:05:27] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: mrayzenoss posted a link for you
[08-May-2009 13:05:59] <PrimeHaxor> perr0, sorry i've got a disc
[08-May-2009 13:06:09] <perr0> ?
[08-May-2009 13:06:16] <PrimeHaxor> i didn't see the link
[08-May-2009 13:06:23] <perr0> sorry
[08-May-2009 13:07:02] <perr0> (12:07:25 PM) mrayzenoss: perr0: check the new Extended Monitoring Guide for ZenJMX. It's well-documented: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[08-May-2009 13:07:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 13:07:24] <perr0> this a document to help you write a zenpack for Tomcat
[08-May-2009 13:09:09] <PrimeHaxor> great
[08-May-2009 13:10:22] <PrimeHaxor> ty
[08-May-2009 13:36:48] <mrayzenoss_> rmatte: another meeting
[08-May-2009 13:40:55] <rmatte> hehe
[08-May-2009 13:41:12] <rmatte> too many meetings!
[08-May-2009 13:41:33] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: what are you doing in all these meetings ..
[08-May-2009 13:41:38] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: way to break up a day
[08-May-2009 13:41:52] <mrayzenoss_> right now it's the 2.4 Development Retrospective
[08-May-2009 13:42:39] <mrayzenoss_> what went well, what didn't what we can do to improve in the next release. We're Agile
[08-May-2009 13:42:52] <rmatte> cool
[08-May-2009 13:52:34] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I would say refactoring some code would be good
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[08-May-2009 14:32:14] <rocket> cluther: ping
[08-May-2009 14:56:17] <PrimeHaxor> the mysql zenpack isn't working
[08-May-2009 14:56:44] <PrimeHaxor> when i added it appears working, after 10 min become down
[08-May-2009 14:58:04] <rmatte> did you remodel the devices in question?
[08-May-2009 14:58:53] <PrimeHaxor> no, i think
[08-May-2009 14:59:03] <rmatte> well, try that
[08-May-2009 15:02:23] <PrimeHaxor> with remodel, the zenoss figure out the config?
[08-May-2009 15:03:33] <PrimeHaxor> after remodel become up and down again
[08-May-2009 15:36:51] <edwardam> Anyone have any experience with Multi-Graph Reports?
[08-May-2009 15:37:01] <edwardam> I can't seem to set one up correctly.
[08-May-2009 15:38:11] <edwardam> I read the Admin guide and parts that it talks about just don't seem to be working (like Graph Point definitions)
[08-May-2009 15:47:24] <jb> whats wrong with them?
[08-May-2009 15:47:54] <jb> did you define your collections?
[08-May-2009 15:48:50] <edwardam> jb: actually ... just figured out what's up
[08-May-2009 15:49:14] <edwardam> jb: same make/model of switch ... one port from each needs to be aggregated into one graph
[08-May-2009 15:49:38] <edwardam> jb: what I just discovered is that one of the interfaces is using the ethernetCsmacd_64 template and the other is using the ethernetCsmacd template
[08-May-2009 15:50:15] <jb> ahh
[08-May-2009 15:50:17] <jb> okey
[08-May-2009 15:50:57] <edwardam> jb: any idea how that happened or what I can do to fix it?
[08-May-2009 15:57:39] <edwardam> jb: Figured that out too ... the snmp version zProperty for the _64 bit one was v2c ... the other was v1
[08-May-2009 16:00:20] <kisielk> edwardam: I wrote a forum post about it some time ago
[08-May-2009 16:01:12] <kisielk> anyone know how to get access to a device's hardware instance through XML RPC ?
[08-May-2009 16:02:42] <edwardam> kisielk: now that this is fixed, any idea how I actually show the sum of both ifHCIn/OutOctets_ifHCIn/OutOctets as 2 points, not 4 (one for In, one for out)
[08-May-2009 16:03:32] <kisielk> that I have no idea
[08-May-2009 16:04:32] * edwardam knows how to do that with RAW rrd
[08-May-2009 16:10:01] <edwardam> Anyone know how to do summaries in a Mutli-Graph report ?
[08-May-2009 16:34:18] <rmatte> is there any way to create a report for process cpu/memory usage across multiple servers but just have it display in plain text rather than graphs?
[08-May-2009 17:03:32] <kisielk> rmatte: yeah with a bit of coding
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[09-May-2009 17:59:37] <slestak> isit reasonable to expect to run 2.4 in a vm, monitoring ~ 200 devices?
[09-May-2009 17:59:52] <slestak> i only have one collector right now.
[09-May-2009 18:01:10] <slestak> i have the vmware image running now, but it is not fully configured. if i decide to put it on physical machine, i am hoping I can just restore a backup and not lose existing config
[09-May-2009 18:04:27] <sergeymasushko> slestak: there is device dump to xml/upload feature, however it is available only from command line.
[09-May-2009 18:10:19] <slestak> sergeymasushko: great, tyvm
[09-May-2009 18:11:42] <slestak> is snmp the suggested method of monitoring servers, (win | *nix) or is snmp really best for just switches and printers and such
[09-May-2009 18:16:51] <sergeymasushko> *nix machines can be monitored by snmp and ssh, btw last 2.4 version has improved ssh linux servers monitoring. but I'm using snmp for all. actually I do not have any win servers so I can not help you with it, but I believe that win boxes also can be monitored by snmp.
[09-May-2009 18:17:51] <slestak> is it advised to setup public keys for the zenossto monitor by ssh?
[09-May-2009 18:18:10] <slestak> nevermind, obvious
[09-May-2009 18:20:00] <slestak> i am working through the fine manual, but i havent gotten too far. one thing i need to do quickly, is I have moved a whole slew of desktops from Autodiscovery to a Desktop class. Can I set a time period to check these by ping, or disbale ping altogether just for that class?
[09-May-2009 18:21:05] <sergeymasushko> sure, you can do it on the 'zProperties' page of the Class.
[09-May-2009 18:21:41] <slestak> thx, i was gathering a lot of ping failures as ppl went home Friday night
[09-May-2009 18:22:27] <slestak> i dont really care when these machines or up or down, i just want to see ide smart data and that their virus data is updating
[09-May-2009 18:22:52] <sergeymasushko> the parameter called e.g. 'zPingMonitorIgnore' just set it to 'true'
[09-May-2009 18:24:22] <slestak> i think the only strange thing i have seen since starting the vmdk, is the Device Edit dialoge. Sometimes I will edit a device, save the page, and not all of the data is saved. i will add manufacturer and model, and only one of two would save, sometimes
[09-May-2009 18:26:09] <sergeymasushko> dunno, I never saw it before
[09-May-2009 18:27:55] <slestak> it was pretty repeatable. i'll troubleshoot, see if i can determine anything
[09-May-2009 18:29:06] <sergeymasushko> gotta go... good luck
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[10-May-2009 09:42:25] <slestak> im using the rpath core vm. i would be more comfortab;le with the ubuntu server stack in a vm. (for updates and admin). is there any reason i am overlooking that i should stay with the provided vmware pkg?
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[10-May-2009 21:41:42] <slestak> hey guys. i have gotten my google api key, and enabled the portlet for location mapping. however, it always zooms to somewherein the pacific and doesnt show my data
[10-May-2009 21:45:18] <slestak> i am using the vmware image install
[10-May-2009 22:02:22] <slestak> how do we need to specify location. is city, state sufficient?
[10-May-2009 22:27:13] <slestak> i see a forum discussing zenpatch 13443, but that was not helpful. same result.
[10-May-2009 22:28:40] <slestak> i am setting Base Location in portlet settings, and saving it, but the value is not being saved.
[10-May-2009 23:17:40] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Daily Python-URL! (from the Secret Labs) - Beards of Python
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[11-May-2009 07:25:42] <roadies> can you map root subnets, for example, Zenoss IP is 10.2.1.0. Mapping 10.2.1.0/4-hops works but mapping 10.0.0.0/4-hops doesn't create a map
[11-May-2009 09:05:10] <rocket> cluther: ping
[11-May-2009 09:17:34] <cluther> rocket: Good morning. What's up?
[11-May-2009 09:17:49] <rocket> have a quick question ... looking for a solution
[11-May-2009 09:18:04] <rocket> first I have a problem with aix snmp .. that ibm will have to fix
[11-May-2009 09:18:13] <rocket> but basically the aixmibd process dies
[11-May-2009 09:18:25] <rocket> so not all of the snmp vars are available
[11-May-2009 09:18:44] <rocket> and I am wondering how I could go about setting up a event for something like that
[11-May-2009 09:19:13] <rocket> eg the perf data isnt up to date and or I would be missing thresholds because that data isnt available
[11-May-2009 09:20:47] <cluther> That would create debug severity events in /Perf/Snmp.
[11-May-2009 09:20:52] <cluther> Error reading value ...
[11-May-2009 09:21:05] <cluther> You could catch those with a transform on the /Perf/Snmp event class.
[11-May-2009 09:21:18] <rocket> cluther: ah ok .. I will look for those
[11-May-2009 09:21:22] <rocket> Thanks
[11-May-2009 09:23:52] <jb> morning
[11-May-2009 09:23:53] <rocket> cluther: otherwise I have most of it working now
[11-May-2009 09:24:14] <rocket> cluther: I am now just running into some issues to troubleshoot locking etc in some of the subcomponents
[11-May-2009 09:24:29] <cluther> I can't wait to see this thing.
[11-May-2009 09:24:36] <jb> me either!
[11-May-2009 09:24:45] <jb> i mentioned it to erik, and he though it was a great idea.
[11-May-2009 09:24:53] <jb> s/though/thought
[11-May-2009 09:25:33] <rocket> cluther: email address I can send some screen shots to?
[11-May-2009 09:25:41] <jb> care to send them my way as well?
[11-May-2009 09:25:46] <rocket> sure
[11-May-2009 09:25:58] <cluther> cluther@zenoss.com is mine
[11-May-2009 09:26:29] <rocket> I dont have all the performance graphs built but those are easy to finish
[11-May-2009 09:26:39] <jb> yeah thats the easy part
[11-May-2009 09:26:44] <jb> what perf graphs do you have?
[11-May-2009 09:26:50] <jb> like VG size, etc?
[11-May-2009 09:27:06] <rocket> jb: yeah
[11-May-2009 09:30:08] <rocket> pics are on the way
[11-May-2009 09:31:02] <rocket> still fixing a few things etc .. but enough is there to get the idea
[11-May-2009 09:32:22] <robos> hi: i am running centos 4 and getting some dependency errors, such as libssl.so.6 and libc.so.6. Should i upgrade centos to version 5 or do you think i can fix the dependency problems manually?
[11-May-2009 09:33:27] <robos> reading the manual it has install instructions for centos 5, but it also has upgrade instructions for centos 4. Thus i think that intalling on version 4 is possible
[11-May-2009 09:34:34] <jb> i'd upgrade to el5
[11-May-2009 09:35:02] <jb> oh nice
[11-May-2009 09:35:05] <jb> you even did print queues?
[11-May-2009 09:35:11] <rocket> jb yup
[11-May-2009 09:35:34] <rocket> jb: at the moment we do alot with print queues .. so our help desk wanted that
[11-May-2009 09:35:39] <jb> yeah we do too
[11-May-2009 09:36:03] <rocket> jb: I created a new threshold that will create events if the queue goes down etc ..
[11-May-2009 09:36:24] <rocket> thats the point threshold thingy in the graph
[11-May-2009 09:36:26] <jb> are you populating stuff like the serial number, etc?
[11-May-2009 09:36:35] <jb> on the main device page
[11-May-2009 09:36:42] <rocket> yea I will be
[11-May-2009 09:36:56] <rocket> that one isnt done yet from the web page side but I have the info
[11-May-2009 09:37:02] <rocket> from the modeler
[11-May-2009 09:37:11] <jb> so you got it all from snmp?
[11-May-2009 09:37:17] <rocket> yes
[11-May-2009 09:37:27] <jb> awesome
[11-May-2009 09:37:32] <jb> maybe I'll switch back to snmp
[11-May-2009 09:37:34] <jb> if it proves to be stable
[11-May-2009 09:38:10] <rocket> yeah I am not sure if its stable enough myself .. so I might be forced to rewrite some of this to use ssh .. but that shouldnt be too hard to do if I have to go that route
[11-May-2009 09:38:28] <jb> right
[11-May-2009 09:38:34] <jb> it should be easy to get all of this using ssh
[11-May-2009 09:38:47] <jb> nothing would change other than the modelers, right?
[11-May-2009 09:39:02] <jb> ive just had bad stability experience with aix's snmpd
[11-May-2009 09:39:16] <rocket> jb: and the datapoints themselves
[11-May-2009 09:39:23] <rocket> jb: for the perf stuff that is
[11-May-2009 09:39:26] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:39:33] <jb> i'd be more than willing to help
[11-May-2009 09:39:42] <rocket> I would have to update those to use the ssh stuff .. but otherwise not an issue
[11-May-2009 09:40:01] <rocket> jb: otherwise I think its coming along nicely
[11-May-2009 09:40:05] <jb> definetely
[11-May-2009 09:40:07] <jb> looking really good.
[11-May-2009 09:40:40] <rocket> cluther: get the screenies?
[11-May-2009 09:40:52] <rocket> jb: get my second email?
[11-May-2009 09:40:55] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:41:36] <rocket> jb: gives you an idea of what I will be able to put on that hd page
[11-May-2009 09:41:59] <rocket> jb: I have to change things from strings too when I am all done .. but for now they work
[11-May-2009 09:43:09] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:43:35] <jb> this should all work for 5.3 too?
[11-May-2009 09:43:43] <jb> most of our stuff is still 5.3
[11-May-2009 09:43:44] <rocket> jb: should
[11-May-2009 09:44:01] <rocket> jb: I have a 5.3 machine I am testing against
[11-May-2009 09:44:15] <rocket> half and half here .. so it has to work for both when I am done with it
[11-May-2009 09:44:21] <jb> k
[11-May-2009 09:44:38] <jb> i need to start reading up on the ssh modeler documentation
[11-May-2009 09:45:12] <rocket> jb: sent another shot showing the main page and its alerting status
[11-May-2009 09:45:18] <jb> yeah saw it
[11-May-2009 09:45:20] <jb> nice
[11-May-2009 09:45:27] <rocket> jb: eg print queues show up etc
[11-May-2009 09:48:47] <cluther> Very nice!
[11-May-2009 09:48:53] <rocket>
[11-May-2009 09:49:08] <rocket> cluther: thats what I have been bugging you for
[11-May-2009 09:53:16] <rocket> cluther: see my multilevel stuff working?
[11-May-2009 10:20:29] <rocket> jb: I will have to update the displays etc to get more real time info etc yet ... but thats pretty easy too
[11-May-2009 10:20:48] <rocket> at the moment file sizes etc are just modelled information
[11-May-2009 10:21:01] <rocket> I need to get that information out of the datapoints
[11-May-2009 10:21:47] <rocket> morning matt
[11-May-2009 10:23:48] <mrayzenoss> morning all
[11-May-2009 10:30:40] <roadies> Have two mapping questions, first, how to you get zenoss to put the zenoss server in a map
[11-May-2009 10:31:51] <robos> hi, i am trying to install zenoss on centos 4 per the instruction manual and I'm getting a mysql dependency error. http://pastie.org/474508 -- it's looking for mysql version 5.0.22 but i have version 5.1.34-0 installed. Do i need to uninstall version 5.1 and install 5.0?
[11-May-2009 10:32:03] <adytum-bot> Title: #474508 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 10:34:15] <mrayzenoss> roadies: You will need to create Locations and then assign devices to the locations
[11-May-2009 10:34:26] <mrayzenoss> roadies: left side panel ->Locations
[11-May-2009 10:43:19] <mrayzenoss> robos: MySQL 5.1 is not officially supported yet, so 5.0 is probably a safer install
[11-May-2009 10:45:04] <roadies> mrayzenoss: Using Management->Add Devices, I can, of course, add all my devices, which does create the Browse->Locations entries including the zenoss server. The problem is it red tags with "127.0.0.1 sendto error Host server.name and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[11-May-2009 10:45:57] <cluther> roadies: You can get around this by giving your Zenoss device a proper name and IP address (other than 127.0.0.1) within Zenoss.
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[11-May-2009 10:50:51] <robos> cool, thanks mrayzenoss.
[11-May-2009 10:51:02] <robos> Now i just need to find a place to download mysq 5.0.22
[11-May-2009 10:51:14] <mrayzenoss> it's in the Dependencies RPM
[11-May-2009 10:51:21] <mrayzenoss> that we have with the CentOS 4 download
[11-May-2009 10:51:40] <robos> ah, sweet
[11-May-2009 10:51:45] <robos> thanks
[11-May-2009 10:54:06] <roadies> cluther: thanks.... it would help if I grab the "right" hostname out of the /etc/hosts file *sign*
[11-May-2009 10:56:54] <roadies> next mapping question: the server is on subnet 10.2.1.x/24, I want to map all 10.x.x.x/8 subnets. setting the map "Selected Device or Network" to 10.0.0.0/8 doesnt work...do I need to put the server at the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet?
[11-May-2009 11:24:17] <syntaxcollector> Hi Room
[11-May-2009 11:24:25] <rmatte> lo
[11-May-2009 11:24:51] <syntaxcollector> I have a template created on a single host, I'm trying to figure out how to copy this template to another host.
[11-May-2009 11:34:03] <rocket> syntaxcollector: unless you did a local copy of the template its not really applied to the host but to the organizer
[11-May-2009 11:34:10] <rocket> syntaxcollector: eg /server/linux
[11-May-2009 11:34:19] <syntaxcollector> its a local copy
[11-May-2009 11:36:49] <syntaxcollector> so how do i copy a local copy, i guess is my question
[11-May-2009 11:41:21] <rocket> from the zendmd command line if i remember correctly
[11-May-2009 11:42:05] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/zendmd-tips-and-tricks/
[11-May-2009 11:42:16] <adytum-bot> Title: zendmd Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 11:56:25] <xulfer> Is there any way to map devices in a certain class based on the sysname rather than the reverse?
[11-May-2009 12:04:18] <caseyh20> I need help upgrading from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0 on FreeBSD 7.0
[11-May-2009 12:05:21] <caseyh20> I get this when running install
[11-May-2009 12:05:22] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17.
[11-May-2009 12:05:23] <caseyh20> gmake: *** [/home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/rrddeps-build] Error 1
[11-May-2009 12:05:23] <caseyh20> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[11-May-2009 12:06:08] <caseyh20> I have been unable to find any information on this error on google, any help is greatly appreciated
[11-May-2009 12:08:42] <robos> what does zenbuild.log say?
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> running install_scripts
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/zenoss/bin
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> Installing easy_install-2.4 script to /usr/local/zenoss/bin
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> installing: mysql-python
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> running build_scripts
[11-May-2009 12:10:34] <caseyh20> running install
[11-May-2009 12:10:36] <caseyh20> running build
[11-May-2009 12:10:38] <caseyh20> running build_py
[11-May-2009 12:10:40] <caseyh20> running build_ext
[11-May-2009 12:10:42] <caseyh20> running install_lib
[11-May-2009 12:16:58] <robos> sounds like pretty useless error messages
[11-May-2009 12:17:14] <caseyh20> yeah, thats what I said, lol
[11-May-2009 12:17:25] <robos> what i would do is look for warnings during configure and then when gmake is running look for any errors
[11-May-2009 12:17:33] <robos> just to get more info about the problem
[11-May-2009 12:17:43] <caseyh20> I did notice there is alot of warnings
[11-May-2009 12:18:09] <caseyh20> this would probably help:
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[11-May-2009 12:18:11] <caseyh20> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[11-May-2009 12:18:13] <caseyh20> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[11-May-2009 12:18:15] <caseyh20> ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[11-May-2009 12:18:17] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:19] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[11-May-2009 12:18:21] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:23] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[11-May-2009 12:18:25] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:25] <robos> might want to pastebot or pastie those errors
[11-May-2009 12:18:27] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[11-May-2009 12:18:29] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:31] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[11-May-2009 12:18:33] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:47] <caseyh20> right
[11-May-2009 12:19:44] <caseyh20> http://pastie.org/474620
[11-May-2009 12:19:55] <adytum-bot> Title: #474620 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 12:22:08] <caseyh20> ok, tried using live search instead of google, it would appear the include paths are not complete
[11-May-2009 12:48:19] <rmatte> are there any good documents explaining how to author reports?
[11-May-2009 12:48:26] <rmatte> each one I've seen so far has been fairly bland
[11-May-2009 13:09:23] <PrimeHaxor> hi, i the zenoss don't show the graphs of perf tab
[11-May-2009 13:09:32] <PrimeHaxor> the zenpack linuxmonitor already installed
[11-May-2009 13:18:48] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: are you remotely monitoring a linux box through ssh?
[11-May-2009 13:18:57] <perr0> nm
[11-May-2009 13:19:03] <perr0> sorry
[11-May-2009 14:22:59] <caseyh20> has anyone gotten 2.4.0 to compile on FreeBSD?
[11-May-2009 14:23:50] <mrayzenoss> I haven't seen any threads about it in the forums, there are usually a good number of FreeBSD users
[11-May-2009 14:24:41] <caseyh20> Right, which I am one of them but have been unable to get 2.4.0 to compile
[11-May-2009 14:25:58] <mrayzenoss> is this the issue? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
[11-May-2009 14:27:26] <caseyh20> unfortunately that is not my issue, lol, I can't get past compiling rrdtool, it fails compiling gettext
[11-May-2009 14:27:57] <perr0> I am running zenoss on freebsd stable 7.0 at home no issues here
[11-May-2009 14:27:59] <mrayzenoss> if you start up a forum thread, I'll have our build engineer take a look. Right now he's focused on fixing OSX Server
[11-May-2009 14:28:35] <perr0> caseyh20: have you looked why gettext is not compiling?
[11-May-2009 14:28:41] <perr0> is it blocked?
[11-May-2009 14:28:56] <perr0> you should be able to tell quite easy
[11-May-2009 14:29:11] <caseyh20> http://pastie.org/474620
[11-May-2009 14:29:22] <adytum-bot> Title: #474620 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:29:49] <caseyh20> from what you have said it is something with my system that is causing it to fail, I will continue to try to find a solution
[11-May-2009 14:29:51] <perr0> that is not eanough info
[11-May-2009 14:30:08] <perr0> do you run the security check?
[11-May-2009 14:30:08] <caseyh20> where should I be looking?
[11-May-2009 14:30:12] <perr0> I am trying to remember
[11-May-2009 14:30:51] <perr0> portaudit?
[11-May-2009 14:31:39] <caseyh20> I am not familiar with portaudit
[11-May-2009 14:32:38] <caseyh20> now I have gettext already installed via the ports, can I just comment it out of rrddeps.sh?
[11-May-2009 14:33:15] <caseyh20> lol, answered my own questions, no I cannot
[11-May-2009 14:33:28] <perr0> you need to figure out what the problem is
[11-May-2009 14:33:39] <mrayzenoss> perr0: are you running 2.4.0?
[11-May-2009 14:33:51] <perr0> no
[11-May-2009 14:33:55] <caseyh20> I am upgrading from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0
[11-May-2009 14:33:56] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.0 updated the RRDTool and brought in a bunch of new dependencies
[11-May-2009 14:34:08] <perr0> on freebsdizzle?
[11-May-2009 14:35:07] <caseyh20> yes, FreeBSD 7.0
[11-May-2009 14:35:33] <perr0> have you updated your ports recently, and you installed gettext seperately?
[11-May-2009 14:36:15] <caseyh20> yes I have, gettext is required for bash and many other things so you must install it before you can run the zenoss installer
[11-May-2009 14:36:39] <caseyh20> the version that is in the ports is 0.17_1 and zenoss tries to build 0.17.0
[11-May-2009 14:36:49] <perr0> I see that
[11-May-2009 14:37:13] <perr0> in your pastie is trying to install the one that comes with zenoss
[11-May-2009 14:37:26] <caseyh20> correct
[11-May-2009 14:38:34] <perr0> mrayzenoss: zenoss provides a install log correct?
[11-May-2009 14:38:48] <mrayzenoss> yeah, somewhere
[11-May-2009 14:38:56] <caseyh20> http://www.pastie.org/474769
[11-May-2009 14:38:58] <perr0> can you look inthere caseyh20
[11-May-2009 14:39:07] <adytum-bot> Title: #474769 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:39:31] <caseyh20> yeah, I will pastie it as well, I couldn't find anything use full in it
[11-May-2009 14:45:02] <perr0> the only reference to this I can find is a bug reported on bugs.gentoo for the same package 0.17. nothing too helpful
[11-May-2009 14:45:22] <caseyh20> http://www.pastie.org/474781
[11-May-2009 14:45:23] <perr0> have you tried ##freebsd?
[11-May-2009 14:45:32] <adytum-bot> Title: #474781 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:45:33] <caseyh20> I will
[11-May-2009 14:45:50] <caseyh20> that pastie is the complete contents of zenbuild.log
[11-May-2009 15:02:27] <perr0> caseyh20: I'd love to help but I am really busy. I hope my friends over ##freebsd can help! Have a nice day
[11-May-2009 15:02:28] <caseyh20> yeah, FreeBSD channel was no help, I will try to replicate the issue on a new setup and if it happens again I will make a forum post
[11-May-2009 15:02:34] <perr0> oops
[11-May-2009 15:02:36] <perr0>
[11-May-2009 15:02:43] <perr0> what did they say
[11-May-2009 15:03:08] <perr0> try again later maybe some of the guys will get home later
[11-May-2009 15:03:11] <caseyh20> they directed me to a ruby bug report, that didn't help lol
[11-May-2009 15:03:22] <caseyh20> will do, thank your for your help perr0
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[11-May-2009 15:31:57] <zen_user> I need help
[11-May-2009 15:32:33] <caseyh20> what is your issue zen_user?
[11-May-2009 15:32:48] <zen_user> re are re-ip'ing our entire network so the managed ip for every device needs to change
[11-May-2009 15:33:12] <zen_user> i need a way ?zendmd? to query for the current managed ip, then change the ip address.
[11-May-2009 15:33:28] <zen_user> i know i can do it via the gui but we are talking about 800 devices, not very effecient
[11-May-2009 15:33:33] <zen_user> any ideas?
[11-May-2009 15:34:04] <zen_user> excuse my typos i got a broke left arm
[11-May-2009 15:34:43] <mrayzenoss> hmmm... I just answered this somewhere
[11-May-2009 15:35:40] <zen_user> i'm not a python guru so any help on maybe the exact syntax i can use to scriopt this would be awesome
[11-May-2009 15:37:35] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: will all the boxes be in DNS?
[11-May-2009 15:39:08] <mrayzenoss> oops
[11-May-2009 15:41:54] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: if the boxes are all in DNS, try this: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=24902
[11-May-2009 15:42:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to reset IP using zendmd? (at forums.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 15:42:31] <zen_user> sorry back
[11-May-2009 15:42:35] <mrayzenoss> if not, you should be able to do something like
[11-May-2009 15:42:40] <mrayzenoss> dev = find('boxname')
[11-May-2009 15:42:57] <zen_user> i know for a fact they are not in dns.
[11-May-2009 15:42:58] <mrayzenoss> dev.setManageIp('10.1.1.1')
[11-May-2009 15:43:07] <zen_user> from zendmd?
[11-May-2009 15:43:08] <mrayzenoss> check that thread
[11-May-2009 15:43:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[11-May-2009 15:43:12] <zen_user> kk
[11-May-2009 15:43:32] <mrayzenoss> good luck with the arm and typing
[11-May-2009 15:43:38] <zen_user> do i need to reindex or synch it
[11-May-2009 15:43:48] <zen_user> yeah suxs broke it in 3 places
[11-May-2009 15:43:52] <mrayzenoss> ugh
[11-May-2009 15:44:08] <zen_user> btw mrayzenoss i might have your biggest zenoss core install
[11-May-2009 15:44:20] <mrayzenoss> I dunno, somebody hit 10K devices recently
[11-May-2009 15:44:22] <zen_user> or maybe according to the howbig is your install thread
[11-May-2009 15:44:36] <zen_user> on core?
[11-May-2009 15:44:38] <mrayzenoss> but feel free to post and brag
[11-May-2009 15:44:39] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[11-May-2009 15:44:56] <mrayzenoss> he's doing multiple boxes by hand
[11-May-2009 15:44:57] <rocket> zen_user: how many collectors are you using?
[11-May-2009 15:44:57] <zen_user> has to be distributed collectors seperate mysql
[11-May-2009 15:45:04] <zen_user> 1
[11-May-2009 15:45:19] <zen_user> 100k oid request cycles in under a min
[11-May-2009 15:45:21] <mrayzenoss> 1 box record is 7 or 8K I believe
[11-May-2009 15:45:37] <zen_user> all routers and switches so i'm pulling a lot of oid's
[11-May-2009 15:45:55] <mrayzenoss> maybe there should be a number of data points record
[11-May-2009 15:46:01] <caseyh20> thats crazy, I just monitor 45 devices lol
[11-May-2009 15:46:03] <zen_user> has to be /ping
[11-May-2009 15:46:25] <cluther> data points are far more impressive.
[11-May-2009 15:46:28] <zen_user> no way you can doo 7 to 8k pulling cpu mem interface stats
[11-May-2009 15:46:40] <zen_user> how to i tell my data points?
[11-May-2009 15:47:43] <cluther> The performance tab of your collector(s).
[11-May-2009 15:47:48] * rocket goes for the most customized zenpack award ..
[11-May-2009 15:49:12] <caseyh20> who would be interested in say a zenoss iPhone/Blackberry/Android app?
[11-May-2009 15:49:21] <rocket> me
[11-May-2009 15:49:23] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: Me!
[11-May-2009 15:49:28] <caseyh20> lol
[11-May-2009 15:49:32] <zen_user> so say i have an ip of 10.1.1.1 how can i query for a device ip then set it's mgmt ip
[11-May-2009 15:49:38] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: email me, I've already got a guy working on speccing out an iPhone app
[11-May-2009 15:49:42] * zen_user wants more zendmd documentation
[11-May-2009 15:49:42] <rocket> caseyh20: I was going to start a blackberry one when I got the chance
[11-May-2009 15:49:54] <caseyh20> I have been working on an iPhone app
[11-May-2009 15:50:00] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I have a bug that has been patched, how do i find out what patch to use? It's for ticket 4970
[11-May-2009 15:50:48] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: zenpatch 13487
[11-May-2009 15:50:57] <mrayzenoss> that's the 2.4 branch patch
[11-May-2009 15:51:27] <gemineye> What does that mean? that patch will fix a bunch of stuff?
[11-May-2009 15:51:41] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: that will apply that changeset to your zenoss installation
[11-May-2009 15:51:55] <gemineye> What does 13486 do then?
[11-May-2009 15:52:35] <mrayzenoss> probably the exact same thing, applied to trunk instead of the 2.4.x branch
[11-May-2009 15:52:50] <mrayzenoss> yup, same patch
[11-May-2009 15:55:59] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20, rocket: feel free to ping me on ideas for your iPhone app or feedback
[11-May-2009 15:56:11] <mrayzenoss> rocket: that was BlackBerry for you
[11-May-2009 15:56:42] <caseyh20> will do
[11-May-2009 15:57:11] <zen_user> i want an FWSM, IDSM2 and F5 BigIP zenpack
[11-May-2009 15:58:18] <mrayzenoss> well, we're about to start up a ZenPack contest, hopefully someone will submit those. Also looking for prize suggestions.
[11-May-2009 15:58:43] <zen_user> kimble 2
[11-May-2009 15:59:35] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: http://www.kimble.ie/ ?
[11-May-2009 15:59:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Kimble Home - Leading suppliers equipment (at www.kimble.ie)
[11-May-2009 15:59:50] <zen_user> so mrayzenoss: where can i find more documentation on zendmd
[11-May-2009 16:00:01] <zen_user> maybe i got wrong name it's an ebook reader
[11-May-2009 16:00:23] <mrayzenoss> Kindle
[11-May-2009 16:00:29] <mrayzenoss> Dev Guide: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[11-May-2009 16:00:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:00:51] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/zendmd-tips-and-tricks/
[11-May-2009 16:01:01] <adytum-bot> Title: zendmd Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:01:05] <zen_user> man i'm dreading this re-ip
[11-May-2009 16:01:07] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/use-a-zendmd-script-as-standalone-program/
[11-May-2009 16:01:15] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: that thread looked promising
[11-May-2009 16:01:18] <adytum-bot> Title: use a zendmd script as standalone program - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:01:23] <zen_user> only because i really don't have a good feel on how to get zenoss working right afterwards
[11-May-2009 16:01:28] <zen_user> non of our devices are in dns
[11-May-2009 16:01:46] <jb> why on earth not?
[11-May-2009 16:01:50] <caseyh20> any reason for not having them in dns?
[11-May-2009 16:01:51] <jb>
[11-May-2009 16:01:55] <caseyh20> lol
[11-May-2009 16:02:04] <zen_user> i really need to query on a given ip, check to ensure that its the current managedip for that device and if so set a new mgmt ip
[11-May-2009 16:02:15] <zen_user> oh we are putting them in dns this time around.
[11-May-2009 16:02:35] <zen_user> just not prior to changing the ip, server guys are bogged down as well
[11-May-2009 16:03:20] <zen_user> we got bought and the purchasing company was using out exact 10.11.0.0/16 space UGH
[11-May-2009 16:05:09] <zen_user> and i cant test any of this out now while i'm on irc, i'm working from home today and i don't allow irc out at work
[11-May-2009 16:05:44] <gemineye> is it possible to create something in the perf area that isn't a graph, but instead just a green or red dot? I have to monitor some services that we validate if they are up or not with a script.
[11-May-2009 16:06:49] <zen_user> mrayzenoss drop Ian an line and tell him one of gary m's friends needs help
[11-May-2009 16:06:50] <zen_user> lol
[11-May-2009 16:06:50] <rocket> gemineye: possible yes ... easy no It will involve custom page templates and zenpacks ..
[11-May-2009 16:07:34] <gemineye> So, I guess my best hope would be to just do a simple template that takes the data and has thresholds which alert if something goes from 0 to 1?
[11-May-2009 16:11:37] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I havent really thought too much about the blackberry app .. been more focused on aix at the moment
[11-May-2009 16:12:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I know there's demand for it, based on the feedback for the ZiPEC http://sourceforge.net/projects/zipec/
[11-May-2009 16:13:08] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: ZiPEC - iPhone Event Console for Zenoss (at sourceforge.net)
[11-May-2009 16:14:53] <caseyh20> Yeah, I am hoping to have a an alpha build of my iPhone app with in the next 4-6 weeks. The fact zenoss already has an xml-rpc interface should speed things up
[11-May-2009 16:16:48] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: what kind of stuff do you plan on doing?
[11-May-2009 16:17:40] <caseyh20> our company is integrating everything into zenoss, from account and sales tracking, to payroll. I plan on making the app be able to do everything the zenoss webportal can.
[11-May-2009 16:18:04] <mrayzenoss> sounds cool
[11-May-2009 16:18:22] <caseyh20> and with iPhone OS 3.0 I will be adding support for push notifications
[11-May-2009 16:25:13] <zen_user> mrayzenoss i read through that forum link and i'm still confused...i guess i'm going to have to use the gui ( i got 40 devices to do tonight ..... 250+ to do this weekend)
[11-May-2009 16:25:51] edwardam|food is now known as edwardam
[11-May-2009 16:27:50] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: so at the end of the thread, there's a script
[11-May-2009 16:32:54] <ke4qqq> rocket: ohhh please make a bb app - preferably something that communicates via bes to get access to zenoss so that I needn't expose zenoss to the world.
[11-May-2009 16:34:54] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: you should be able to write a simple script that gets each device and dumps the IP
[11-May-2009 16:35:12] <mrayzenoss> then take the IPs and feed them into another script to convert them, with the followup from that thread
[11-May-2009 16:35:43] <ke4qqq> mrayzenoss: you guys already book your hotel for SELF?
[11-May-2009 16:36:00] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: we just did it
[11-May-2009 16:36:09] <ke4qqq> today??
[11-May-2009 16:36:23] <ke4qqq> yeah I just found out that the conference hotel is completely booked now
[11-May-2009 16:36:27] <ke4qqq> which is a great sign
[11-May-2009 16:36:28] <mrayzenoss> literally 5 minutes ago
[11-May-2009 16:36:45] <ke4qqq> cool
[11-May-2009 16:37:52] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: we're staying at the James F. Martin Inn
[11-May-2009 16:38:19] <zen_user> <mrayzenoss> then take the IPs and feed them into another script to convert them, with the followup from that thread
[11-May-2009 16:38:30] <zen_user> what follow up i see the script
[11-May-2009 16:38:48] <ke4qqq> ahhh - that's a VERY nice place!
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[11-May-2009 16:45:14] edwardam|phn is now known as edwardam
[11-May-2009 16:55:50] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: awww, we just got rejected by the James F. Martin Inn
[11-May-2009 16:57:46] <ke4qqq> you're kidding - why?
[11-May-2009 16:58:34] <ke4qqq> mrayzenoss: how many rooms do you need?
[11-May-2009 16:59:13] <mrayzenoss> it's full. we need 2
[11-May-2009 17:12:43] <MichaelGG> hi
[11-May-2009 17:22:15] <MichaelGG> With 2.4, it's feasible to monitor windows without SNMP, correct? WMI will handle it all?
[11-May-2009 17:22:50] <mrayzenoss> not with Zenoss Core
[11-May-2009 17:22:57] <MichaelGG> ohhh
[11-May-2009 17:23:05] <MichaelGG> gotcha
[11-May-2009 17:23:17] <mrayzenoss> the WMI supplements the crappy SNMP from Microsoft
[11-May-2009 17:23:36] <MichaelGG> Now, for a small company, is Pro/enterprise a possibility? the page seems to indicate I need to license about $10K worth a year, and I only have like 10 servers.
[11-May-2009 17:24:09] <mrayzenoss> not really. We don't have the support staff to handle lots of small installations, sorry
[11-May-2009 17:24:25] <MichaelGG> So, if we want full WMI, but no support, we're out of luck
[11-May-2009 17:24:32] <MichaelGG> We got fed up with System Center Essentials and are trynna find something else
[11-May-2009 18:00:26] <gemineye> rocket: You said earlier that my hope to monitor up/down statuses sent from zencommand could be done but would be difficult. How difficult would it be?
[11-May-2009 19:43:36] <rocket> gemineye: it depends on how much of python programmer you are and/or how good you are at modifying web templates
[11-May-2009 19:43:53] <rocket> gemineye: you will have to decipher the developers guide
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[12-May-2009 08:40:23] <cccharles> can anybody tell me how long enterprise releases are supported?
[12-May-2009 08:44:31] <cccharles> i.e., now that 2.4 is out what version is being EOL'd?
[12-May-2009 08:46:13] <rmatte> I'm pretty sure that if you hunt around on the Zenoss website they have some sales@zenoss.com or something that you can send that question to
[12-May-2009 08:49:32] <cccharles> rmatte: thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm a little surprised that the 2.4 release announcements haven't said anything like 'supported until 2011' or something...
[12-May-2009 08:54:50] <rmatte> I don't think Zenoss really have an EOL though they encourage upgrades since upgrades are free (well, even if you're a paying customer they are provided without any additional cost, as long as you're paying the yearly fee)
[12-May-2009 08:58:03] <rmatte> ok, so I see that I can add python scripts as columns in reports...
[12-May-2009 08:58:13] <rmatte> but I'm trying to wrap my mind around the formatting
[12-May-2009 08:58:15] <rmatte> return ','.join([ s.name() for s in context.os.ipservices() if s.monitored() ])
[12-May-2009 08:58:18] <rmatte> that's the example
[12-May-2009 08:58:42] <rmatte> now what if I want to create a column that displays the IP address of each device?
[12-May-2009 08:59:10] <rmatte> is there any place in Zope where I can see a listing of values that I can poll?
[12-May-2009 09:22:01] <jb> mornin.
[12-May-2009 09:26:40] <rocket> morning jb
[12-May-2009 09:26:46] <jb>
[12-May-2009 09:35:27] <rocket> morning matt
[12-May-2009 09:36:01] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[12-May-2009 09:36:07] <slestak> what is the quickst was to disable a zenpack without uninstalling it? Reset Bindings on the class?
[12-May-2009 09:36:30] <slestak> ive got very high cpu trying to process wmi data, so I think i need to check fewer machines
[12-May-2009 09:37:04] <jb> yes
[12-May-2009 09:37:58] <slestak> after doing that, teh wmic process is still running liek gangbusters. should I restart zenwin?
[12-May-2009 09:39:49] <jb> yeah, probably
[12-May-2009 09:40:19] <slestak> thx
[12-May-2009 09:42:50] <slestak> hmm, still running.
[12-May-2009 09:43:29] <slestak> think i'll reboot the machine
[12-May-2009 09:44:31] <slestak> think i will try monitoring same machines with informant, see if it scales better
[12-May-2009 09:45:08] <slestak> im only checking about 40 windows servers
[12-May-2009 10:11:15] <rmatte> Zenoss is missing a ton of Products so I'm getting OIDs in the place of Product Model all the time, is there a zenpack floating around that has all of the different products?
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[12-May-2009 10:28:16] <rmatte> hmmm, any way to import the CISCO-PRODUCTS-MIB entries to "Products"?
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[12-May-2009 10:31:08] <rmatte> ok, weird
[12-May-2009 10:31:31] <rmatte> I model devices that are clearly listed in Products with the correct OID, but it still shows the OID as the Model
[12-May-2009 10:31:42] <rmatte> is this some bug that was fixed in 2.4 or something?
[12-May-2009 10:32:04] <rmatte> some work, some don't
[12-May-2009 10:51:20] <rmatte> anyone?
[12-May-2009 11:30:48] <rmatte> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9720
[12-May-2009 11:31:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - When I model devices, devices show the model as an OID (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 11:31:05] <rhettlap> rmatte, add the model you'd like do the product list and attache the appropriate oid?
[12-May-2009 11:31:14] <rhettlap> attach rather
[12-May-2009 11:31:16] <rmatte> rhettlap: they are already all in there
[12-May-2009 11:31:17] <rmatte> I checked
[12-May-2009 11:31:23] <rhettlap> ah
[12-May-2009 11:31:43] <rhettlap> well i dont know then! just a guess. most of my stuff i have to add in manually
[12-May-2009 11:32:08] <rmatte> yeh, this is all Cisco gear and Zenoss already has most of it
[12-May-2009 11:32:32] <rmatte> there are a couple of firewalls and stuff that it might not have, but for the most part, it should be getting like 99% of this
[12-May-2009 11:32:38] <rmatte> that's why it's strange that it's not
[12-May-2009 11:33:59] <rhettlap> so if u go to the edit tab of the device and set the model # it still shows an oid?
[12-May-2009 11:34:33] <rmatte> If I were to manually set it, no
[12-May-2009 11:34:40] <rmatte> but we're talking over a hundred devices here
[12-May-2009 11:34:58] <rhettlap> yeah. i was just curious if you set it manuall then re modeled what would happen
[12-May-2009 11:35:15] <rmatte> If I remodelled it would probably pull the OID back down
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[12-May-2009 11:37:14] <rhettlap> have u tried manually snmpwalking a problem device using system (i.e. snmpwalk -v 2c -c community IPORHOSTNAME system) and seeing if anything w/ the model appears
[12-May-2009 11:37:36] <rhettlap> its usually on the descr line
[12-May-2009 11:38:20] <rmatte> yeh, the description line has model info
[12-May-2009 11:38:24] <rhettlap> obviously replace 2c w/ 1 or 3 if needed
[12-May-2009 11:39:04] <rhettlap> i am really shooting in the dark here but is it in all caps
[12-May-2009 11:39:12] <rhettlap> if its not just a set of numbers
[12-May-2009 11:39:29] <rmatte> the description line?
[12-May-2009 11:39:46] <rhettlap> the model number
[12-May-2009 11:39:57] <rhettlap> just curious if it was an issue w/ letter cases
[12-May-2009 11:40:07] <rhettlap> but like i said i have no idea. im just guessing at this point
[12-May-2009 11:40:19] <rmatte> this one that I'm looking at right now is just set as "2811" in Products
[12-May-2009 11:40:28] <rmatte> but all I get is the OID displayed when I model
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[12-May-2009 11:40:57] <rhettlap> and you're running 2.3?
[12-May-2009 11:41:01] <rmatte> 2.3.3
[12-May-2009 11:41:02] <rmatte> correct
[12-May-2009 11:42:51] <rhettlap> ok
[12-May-2009 11:43:43] <rocket> rmatte: there is a bug in 2.3.3 that will cause that
[12-May-2009 11:43:56] <rocket> rmatte: I believe 2.4 has the fix in it
[12-May-2009 11:44:23] <rocket> rmatte: I havent checked for it but I believe that bug is closed
[12-May-2009 11:45:15] <rocket> rmatte: there are additional patches coming to make that even more automatic but I am not sure where they will fall on the roadmap
[12-May-2009 11:45:20] <rhettlap> well that would be nice if that were the case
[12-May-2009 11:46:06] <rhettlap> i was just going to say to make sure you the appropriate MIB loaded since you're not getting translated OID's
[12-May-2009 11:52:03] <rmatte> ok cool
[12-May-2009 11:52:21] <rmatte> the translation of the product OIDs has nothing to do with MIBS
[12-May-2009 11:52:27] <rmatte> Mibs are only used to translate traps
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[12-May-2009 11:54:10] <rmatte> In Zenoss anyways
[12-May-2009 12:00:04] <rmatte> I am really really looking forward to King Crab, I'm sure a lot of these annoyances will be fixed by then
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[12-May-2009 12:05:19] <mrayzenoss> King Crab? We just put out Blue Crab...
[12-May-2009 12:05:22] <mrayzenoss>
[12-May-2009 12:05:25] <rmatte> I know, just saying
[12-May-2009 12:05:46] <rmatte> there's still stuff that needs fixin'
[12-May-2009 12:05:59] <rmatte> apparently now there's some geocache issue in 2.4?
[12-May-2009 12:06:21] <rmatte> saw a couple of people posting about it
[12-May-2009 12:06:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, 2.4.1 should fix the map issues
[12-May-2009 12:06:29] <rmatte> cool
[12-May-2009 12:06:31] <mrayzenoss> shooting for tomorrow
[12-May-2009 12:06:39] <rmatte> excellent
[12-May-2009 12:06:39] * mrayzenoss fingers crossed
[12-May-2009 12:06:57] <rmatte> can you confirm that the product mapping as oids instead of the actual product name is fixed?
[12-May-2009 12:07:18] <rmatte> my boss is breathing down my neck to fix that
[12-May-2009 12:07:26] <rmatte> lol
[12-May-2009 12:11:19] <rmatte> is there any way to patch 2.3.3 in the mean time for that product OID issue?
[12-May-2009 12:35:06] <rmatte> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4159
[12-May-2009 12:35:16] <rmatte> * milestone changed from zenoss-2.4.0 to King_Crab
[12-May-2009 12:35:19] <rmatte> yikes
[12-May-2009 12:36:55] <rmatte> looks like it didn't make the cut
[12-May-2009 12:37:13] <venturaville> anyone know why I get this:
[12-May-2009 12:37:18] <venturaville> AttributeError: 'VMDevice' object has no attribute 'primaryAq'
[12-May-2009 12:54:04] <rmatte> venturaville: when/where exactly are you seeing that?
[12-May-2009 12:55:17] <gemineye> mrayzenoss, I've applied 3 patches so far, 2 were for mapping issues. Are there more patches I can apply? I'd rather not go through the whole process of upgrading if patches are available.
[12-May-2009 12:56:13] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I believe 2.4.1 has 2 map patches, 1 snmp patch and an installer fix for OSX
[12-May-2009 12:56:25] <mrayzenoss> and 1 internal ticket for distributed collectors
[12-May-2009 12:56:45] <mrayzenoss> so if you're not on OSX, you're good
[12-May-2009 12:56:50] <mrayzenoss> with 1 more patch
[12-May-2009 12:56:56] <Pr1meHaxor> someone using the mysql zenpack?
[12-May-2009 12:57:18] <gemineye> ok, I got the 2 map ones and the one mentioned in the release notes.
[12-May-2009 12:57:30] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, that one too
[12-May-2009 12:57:51] <gemineye> What's the ticket number for the SNMP patch?
[12-May-2009 12:59:03] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4988
[12-May-2009 13:01:56] <venturaville> myrazenoss: any progress on allowing templates to be edited in zope (especially in regards to reports)?
[12-May-2009 13:08:50] <mrayzenoss> I haven't seen anything about that recently, was there a ticket?
[12-May-2009 13:09:37] <venturaville> yeah I put one in some number of weeks ago
[12-May-2009 13:11:57] <venturaville> apparently the same as a number of bug tickets I am seeing in the bug tracker
[12-May-2009 13:12:10] <venturaville> like this one: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2621093&group_id=163126&atid=826503
[12-May-2009 13:12:32] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring: Detail: 2621093 - "Zenoss Error" Page when adding a new report (at sourceforge.net)
[12-May-2009 13:13:26] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we're not going to fix issues with Zope directly
[12-May-2009 13:13:30] <rmatte> venturaville: you can edit reports in Zope, if you want to get down and dirty with coding
[12-May-2009 13:21:16] <venturaville> rmatte: I've been trying, but it errors out saying it cannot find the report anytime I try and save them ........
[12-May-2009 13:25:11] <rmatte> odd
[12-May-2009 13:28:51] <venturaville> http://zenossserver:8080/zport/dmd/Reports/manage
[12-May-2009 13:29:03] <venturaville> Add Page Template
[12-May-2009 13:29:06] <venturaville> Id=test123
[12-May-2009 13:29:15] <venturaville> Add
[12-May-2009 13:29:18] <venturaville> Save Changes
[12-May-2009 13:29:20] <venturaville> gets:
[12-May-2009 13:29:35] <venturaville> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[12-May-2009 13:29:53] <venturaville> and fails in pt_changePrefs form with pt_editAction='Save Changes'
[12-May-2009 13:30:11] <venturaville> but oddly enough it claims Authenticated_User='Anonymous User'
[12-May-2009 13:30:14] <venturaville> very odd
[12-May-2009 13:30:23] <venturaville> since the header claims I am logged in as admin
[12-May-2009 13:44:01] <sergeymasushko> hi 2 all. someone tried to setup zenoss with the LDAP on the FreeBSD?
[12-May-2009 14:04:23] <rmatte> zenoss with LDAP on FreeBSD should be no different than on Linux
[12-May-2009 14:04:45] <rmatte> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[12-May-2009 14:05:05] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 14:36:44] <venturaville1> >>> print dev.getRRDDataPoints()
[12-May-2009 14:36:45] <venturaville1> [<RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/rrdTemplates/Device/datasources/sysUpTime/datapoints/sysUpTime>, <RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/Chassis/HPBladeChassis/rrdTemplates/HPBladeChassis/datasources/getpower/datapoints/TotalCurPwrOutput>, <RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/Chassis/HPBladeChassis/rrdTemplates/HPBladeChassis/datasources/getpower/datapoints/TotalMaxPwrOutput>]
[12-May-2009 14:37:04] <venturaville1> say I have those data points... how do I get at the actual value for them?
[12-May-2009 14:41:56] <rmatte> you might want to explain a little more in depth what exactly you're trying to accomplish
[12-May-2009 14:45:24] <venturaville1> trying to get access to the raw value in the RRD for that RRD Datapoint
[12-May-2009 14:45:40] <venturaville1> though someone else just pointed out that I was making it harder than was necessary :-P
[12-May-2009 14:45:54] <rmatte> well, the RRD datapoints that you just pasted are just data points in templates
[12-May-2009 14:46:01] <rmatte> so they won't contain actual values
[12-May-2009 14:46:05] <venturaville1> >>> dev.getRRDValue('TotalCurPwrOutput')
[12-May-2009 14:46:05] <venturaville1> 698.50999999999999
[12-May-2009 14:46:28] <rmatte> ah, you can do that against any device?
[12-May-2009 14:48:44] <venturaville1> it would seem so
[12-May-2009 14:49:08] <rmatte> what I need to figure out is how to collect the RRD values for each process being monitored
[12-May-2009 14:49:16] <rmatte> for cpu, memory, and process count
[12-May-2009 14:49:20] <rmatte> then create a report from them
[12-May-2009 14:53:26] <venturaville1> >>> devices.findDevice('mon8db1').os.processes()
[12-May-2009 14:53:26] <venturaville1> [<OSProcess at /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/mon8db1/os/processes/opt_opsware_agent_bin_python>, <OSProcess at /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/mon8db1/os/processes/usr_sbin_snmpd 5ec8cf3294402a4983e5f4cdec36b36b>]
[12-May-2009 14:53:35] <venturaville1> rmatte: that would seem to be what you want
[12-May-2009 15:02:58] <mrayzenoss_> perr0: are you running 2.4?
[12-May-2009 15:03:21] <perr0> ya in Linux
[12-May-2009 15:03:31] <mrayzenoss_> ahh, looking for a FreeBSD user
[12-May-2009 15:03:34] <mrayzenoss_> on 2.4
[12-May-2009 15:03:41] <perr0> no I will do the install this evening
[12-May-2009 15:04:19] <perr0> actually I will start the install process shortly
[12-May-2009 15:04:20] <mrayzenoss_> well, we're QA'ing 2.4.1 right now, so don't get too attached to 2.4
[12-May-2009 15:04:30] <perr0> k
[12-May-2009 15:04:49] <mrayzenoss_> but I'm wondering about http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34671
[12-May-2009 15:05:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - An issue with fonts after upgrade to 2.4.0 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 15:05:46] <rmatte> you included a dependency that doesn't get installed along with Zenoss?
[12-May-2009 15:05:48] <rmatte> lol
[12-May-2009 15:06:17] <perr0> that happened to me when I upgraded from 2.3 to 2.4 and lost my connection to mysql
[12-May-2009 15:06:40] <rmatte> if it depends on those fonts they should be installed in 1 static location no matter what system, and they should come packaged with Zenoss
[12-May-2009 15:07:15] <rmatte> the reason sergeymasushko is probably having problems in FreeBSD is because FreeBSD installs stuff in different locations/paths than Linux in most cases
[12-May-2009 15:08:15] <mrayzenoss_> good point
[12-May-2009 15:08:45] <mrayzenoss_> I think it's included in the stack, vmware and depended on by the rpms. Guess the source build got overlooked
[12-May-2009 15:08:57] <mrayzenoss_> digging into it, since I don't have the issue on my source build
[12-May-2009 15:09:23] <rmatte> ah
[12-May-2009 15:09:43] <rmatte> I love the stack installer myself
[12-May-2009 15:09:48] <mrayzenoss_> I don't have Liberation fonts on my source install
[12-May-2009 15:10:01] <rmatte> hmmm
[12-May-2009 15:10:25] <rmatte> do "locate liberation"
[12-May-2009 15:10:32] <rmatte> maybe they are sitting around somewhere
[12-May-2009 15:10:48] <rmatte> updatedb && locate liberation
[12-May-2009 15:10:49] <rmatte> rather
[12-May-2009 15:10:56] <sergeymasushko> where is installed liberation in the linux?
[12-May-2009 15:16:45] <perr0> oh lawd freebsd is up to 7.2
[12-May-2009 15:20:15] <perr0> I am going to move my zenoss box from linux to freebsd 7.2 this evening just for the heck of it, see how it goes..
[12-May-2009 15:23:38] <sergeymasushko> on the FreeBSD liberation is located here /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/
[12-May-2009 15:25:25] <perr0> sergeymasushko: is this set up for your work?
[12-May-2009 15:27:42] <sergeymasushko> it is my current installation, but it doesn't work.
[12-May-2009 15:28:25] <perr0> some guy had a similar problem with his freebsd set up last night
[12-May-2009 15:29:17] <rmatte> see, Linux usually stores fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[12-May-2009 15:29:25] <rmatte> instead of /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts
[12-May-2009 15:29:30] <rmatte> maybe if you move it there?
[12-May-2009 15:29:37] <perr0> create a link?
[12-May-2009 15:29:42] <rmatte> yeh, you could
[12-May-2009 15:29:45] <rmatte> ln -s whatever
[12-May-2009 15:30:10] <perr0> ln -s current/ newdir/
[12-May-2009 15:30:22] <perr0> can you try that sergeymasushko
[12-May-2009 15:30:40] <perr0> but where in zenoss does it look for this file?
[12-May-2009 15:31:03] <perr0> before you make this link, I guess it doesn't hurt to try
[12-May-2009 15:32:24] <rmatte> well, it wouldn't really be zenoss looking for the file, it'd be rrdtool I'd imagine
[12-May-2009 15:32:31] <rmatte> since that's what actually produces the graph
[12-May-2009 15:32:34] <rmatte> but I could be wrong
[12-May-2009 15:35:19] <sergeymasushko> should I create a link to /usr/share/fonts/X11/ or /usr/share/fonts/X11/Liberation/ ?
[12-May-2009 15:35:36] <perr0> it doesn't hurt
[12-May-2009 15:35:42] <perr0> I don't see why you would have to
[12-May-2009 15:36:12] <rmatte> just make sure that the fonts are linked to their own folder in /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[12-May-2009 15:45:34] <sergeymasushko> which daemon should I restart?
[12-May-2009 15:50:17] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: That change over took a whopping 14 seconds. I'd really like to see you get that under 10.
[12-May-2009 15:50:32] <davidX_> kind of weird, i'm trying to upgrade to 2.4 and i'm getting these errors http://pastebin.com/m62bea153
[12-May-2009 15:50:42] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[12-May-2009 15:50:54] <davidX_> has anyone else experienced this on centos 5.x ?
[12-May-2009 15:51:28] <gemineye> Mine was clean when I did it. I went from 2.3.3 to 2.4 on CentOS 5.2 and 5.3
[12-May-2009 15:51:42] <davidX_> i'm currently running 2.3.3
[12-May-2009 15:56:50] <mrayzenoss> davidX_ are you downgrading from 2.4.0 to 2.3.3?
[12-May-2009 16:00:08] <rmatte> you might as well just wait a few days until 2.4.1 comes out
[12-May-2009 16:00:31] <mrayzenoss> it appears to be firming up for tomorrow morning (no promises)
[12-May-2009 16:00:38] <mrayzenoss> I gotta disclaimer myself
[12-May-2009 16:00:38] <rmatte> cool
[12-May-2009 16:00:42] <rmatte> hehe
[12-May-2009 16:00:55] * rmatte slaps a disclaimer on mrayzenoss' forehead
[12-May-2009 16:00:58] <rmatte> there you go
[12-May-2009 16:00:59] <davidX_> i realized what it was, not enough caffeine
[12-May-2009 16:01:05] <davidX_> was running -ivh not -Uvh
[12-May-2009 16:01:06] <sergeymasushko> ln -s /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation /usr/share/fonts/X11/ fixes the problem
[12-May-2009 16:01:11] <sergeymasushko> thanks
[12-May-2009 16:01:29] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: could you post that to your forum post? I'll get it into a ticket
[12-May-2009 16:01:31] <mrayzenoss> for FreeBSD
[12-May-2009 16:01:49] <sergeymasushko> ok
[12-May-2009 16:03:05] <sergeymasushko> done
[12-May-2009 16:11:13] <rmatte> nice
[12-May-2009 16:11:16] <rmatte> glad it worked
[12-May-2009 16:19:07] <rhettlap> hello
[12-May-2009 16:19:18] <perr0> good job sergeymasushko
[12-May-2009 16:24:00] sergeymasushko is now known as serge
[12-May-2009 16:32:25] <mrayzenoss> serge: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006
[12-May-2009 16:45:33] <serge> mrayzenoss: Matt, do you know when dependencies will be implemented via web interface? are developers going to work with it for king krab?
[12-May-2009 16:57:01] <mrayzenoss> King Crab is getting estimates for the sizes of the different tasks right now
[12-May-2009 16:57:15] <mrayzenoss> the dependencies would probably fall into the UI overhaul
[12-May-2009 16:58:01] <rmatte> dependencies via web interface, report config through web interface, and more powerful templates would be golden
[12-May-2009 16:58:26] <mrayzenoss> after the estimates are firmed up, then it comes down to prioritization
[12-May-2009 16:58:32] <mrayzenoss> there are only 5 developers
[12-May-2009 16:59:22] <mrayzenoss> the UI overhaul is slated to take 2 of them 2 entire release cycles
[12-May-2009 16:59:52] <mrayzenoss> and it hasn't even been accepted yet
[12-May-2009 17:01:20] <mrayzenoss> we're always open to patches though
[12-May-2009 17:01:21] <mrayzenoss>
[12-May-2009 17:01:40] <serge>
[12-May-2009 17:05:29] <mrayzenoss> later folks, see you tomorrow
[12-May-2009 17:05:47] <rmatte> later
[12-May-2009 18:06:45] <pgega> hello
[12-May-2009 18:06:55] <pgega> any way to use zenoss with nrpe
[12-May-2009 18:07:03] <pgega> ?
[12-May-2009 18:25:47] <gene_> Hi all, I've been working on getting the LDAP authentication working in zenoss ( http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ). It works great and have been using it for a while now, but I've been unable to get the automatic mapping of LDAP/AD groups to roles. I've followed the instructions, everything looks good. When I go into the zope interface and view the contents of the cached ldap queries ( http://hostname:8080/zport
[12-May-2009 18:26:20] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 18:27:38] <gene_> For example, after setting up the group to role mapping, I have a user in that group login to Zenoss. In the zope interface when looking at the cached users list (after the user logs in) it shows their roles as "Manager, ZenUser, Authenticated". When I go into the Zenoss... Settings... Users interface however. It shows them as only being a "ZenUser"
[12-May-2009 18:28:46] <gene_> Any thoughts on the connection between the zope backend authentication and roles, and the Zenoss internal "UserSettings" objects which I believe contain these users and role values?
[12-May-2009 18:32:21] <gene_> I'll try posting this up on the forums and see if anyone has ideas.
[12-May-2009 18:35:00] <gene_> ah looks like I'm not the first to encounter this ( http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9652 ). Guess it's a known problem.
[12-May-2009 18:35:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP group to Zope role mappings doesn't work (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 18:46:21] edwarda__ is now known as edwardam
[12-May-2009 19:48:26] <serge> I've installed DigMonitor zenpack (zenoss 2.4), binded a template to a device... but when I tried to open it I got the following:
[12-May-2009 19:48:27] <serge> http://pastebin.com/m1268d10d
[12-May-2009 20:41:00] <rmatte> weird, some devices went down and Zenoss isn't picking up on the fact that they are back up.
[12-May-2009 20:45:48] <serge> rmatte: what does zenhub log says?
[12-May-2009 20:46:42] <serge> rmatte: btw. can you manually move the event to the history?
[12-May-2009 20:54:37] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[12-May-2009 22:26:54] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[12-May-2009 23:17:23] <etw_> i don't quite understand how devices can ignore/not report/suppress/etc events, can someone point me to how to do this?
[12-May-2009 23:27:31] <etw_> or auto-move-to-history
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[13-May-2009 00:16:22] <etw_> alternatively, how do i stop process monitoring on a per-device level?
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[13-May-2009 03:54:56] <tneupaney> URGENT! i cannot configure wmic in the clients
[13-May-2009 03:55:38] <tneupaney> I am using Ubuntu Jaunty
[13-May-2009 03:55:44] <tneupaney> Client has windows XP
[13-May-2009 08:50:17] <rmatte> I don't think he understood the concept of how WMI works
[13-May-2009 09:02:46] <rmatte> what would be the simplest way for me to implement dependencies in Zenoss (by simple I mean basically automated)
[13-May-2009 09:03:01] <rmatte> when a certain device goes down I don't want to be alerted for every single device behind it
[13-May-2009 09:03:25] <rmatte> for example, we have tunnels in to customer networks, when a tunnel drops to a particular customer we get flooded with over 300 events
[13-May-2009 09:26:55] <rocket> morning matt
[13-May-2009 09:30:18] <mrayzenoss> morning
[13-May-2009 09:31:31] <jb> hello
[13-May-2009 09:31:33] <jb>
[13-May-2009 09:31:34] <rmatte> ok, we have some vpn tunnels that don't have virtual interfaces associated with them, is there any way for Zenoss to monitor those?
[13-May-2009 10:57:42] <cgibbons> uhoh
[13-May-2009 11:00:52] <mrayzenoss> just spreading the wealth
[13-May-2009 12:17:29] <beanfield> Just upgraded zenoss 2.3.3 enterprise to zenoss 2.4.1 on Centos 5.3. I appears that no rrdfiles are created for any data sources that use zencommand
[13-May-2009 12:19:35] <beanfield> for instance, my httpmonitor data sources stopped graphing (across the board for all servers). I checked the rrdfiles and they stopped being updated. I removed them, restarted zencommand, and then ran "zencommand run -v10 -d DEVICENAME" and the rrd files are not recreated
[13-May-2009 12:20:12] <perr0> anything in the logs?
[13-May-2009 12:20:18] <beanfield> they all stopped graphing immediately after my upgrade. There are no errors from zencommand when I run it manually...nor are there any errors in the zencommand.log
[13-May-2009 12:21:47] <beanfield> hmm...running an strace on the zencommand pid
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999923}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999922}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999924}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999921}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:22:10] <beanfield> over and over
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [6], [], {4, 999603}) = 1 (out [6], left {4, 999603})
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> sendto(6, "\7\200\32\207j\201\3\201\n\202sendEvents\1\201\2\200\v\207\2\200\10\207\7\200"..., 167, 0, NULL, 0) = 167
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 998902}) = 1 (in [6], left {4, 995000})
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> recvfrom(6, "\3\200\33\207j\201\1\201", 65536, 0, NULL, NULL) = 8
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 995470}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:26:27] <beanfield> noticed this in zenhub "AttributeError: zSshConcurrentSessions"
[13-May-2009 12:26:35] <beanfield> for a number of devices
[13-May-2009 12:35:20] <beanfield> also....looking at the extended monitoring for version 2.4 guide, I see references to a zSshConcurrentSessions zproperty that can be set per device
[13-May-2009 12:35:33] <beanfield> but if I browse to my devices, I see no such zproperty.....
[13-May-2009 12:35:50] <beanfield> I'm thinking that zencommand is bombing out trying to read this non-existant zproperty
[13-May-2009 12:57:19] <mrayzenoss> beanfield: could you post that on a forum thread and I'll point a Dev at it?
[13-May-2009 13:37:40] <kalahari875> We attempted to upgrade our 2.3.3 zenoss-stack installation to 2.4. The installation succeeded, but the website would not function after the upgrade. It would not enumerate devices and showed a "Server communication error" error dialog in the bottom right of every screen.
[13-May-2009 13:38:05] <kalahari875> The daemons appeared to continue monitoring however.
[13-May-2009 13:38:38] <kalahari875> Seemed like a zeo communication problem but the zeo log shows no errors.
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> There are some errors in event.log like the following:
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> 2009-05-13T10:21:10 ERROR Zope Couldn't install Five
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 773, in install_product
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> initmethod(context)
[13-May-2009 13:39:34] <kalahari875> ...
[13-May-2009 14:05:08] <mrayzenoss> could you post that in the forums with the event.log contents?
[13-May-2009 14:12:16] <kalahari875> Sure can
[13-May-2009 14:17:00] <kalahari875> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34740#34740
[13-May-2009 14:27:18] <mrayzenoss> kalahari875: did you install the LDAP stuff to your previous install?
[13-May-2009 14:28:35] <mrayzenoss> wondering if the new stack blew out your LDAP configuration
[13-May-2009 14:28:40] <kalahari875> Well
[13-May-2009 14:28:49] <kalahari875> I would think so, except it continued to function for login.
[13-May-2009 14:29:06] <kalahari875> I was able to go to the zope configuration for the acl_users node and manage that as well without error.
[13-May-2009 14:29:07] <mrayzenoss> any user besides Admin able to login?
[13-May-2009 14:29:10] <kalahari875> Oh yes
[13-May-2009 14:29:15] <kalahari875> All of our AD accounts continued working
[13-May-2009 14:29:44] <kalahari875> The LDAP plugins are the latest version from python.org as of last week
[13-May-2009 15:06:54] <mrayzenoss> were you following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ?
[13-May-2009 15:11:56] <beanfield> mrayzenoss: I just opened a ticket
[13-May-2009 15:12:12] <mrayzenoss> support or trac?
[13-May-2009 15:12:26] <beanfield> support
[13-May-2009 15:12:43] <mrayzenoss> cool, they'll get you fixed up and open a trac ticket if something is broken
[13-May-2009 15:12:53] <beanfield> awesome, thanks
[13-May-2009 15:13:47] <lunartear> any way to use nrpe with zenoss?
[13-May-2009 15:15:35] <mrayzenoss> we haven't really had a need to
[13-May-2009 15:15:41] <mrayzenoss> but I imagine it could be done
[13-May-2009 15:16:13] <mrayzenoss> we already support making remote calls on a box with SSH
[13-May-2009 15:16:44] <mrayzenoss> so you could just call the plugin or script on the other box via SSH
[13-May-2009 15:17:30] <mrayzenoss> that said, I guess you could also call check_nrpe as a local command
[13-May-2009 15:18:27] <lunartear> I thought one of the benefits of direct nrpe was it was less overhead?
[13-May-2009 15:19:02] <mrayzenoss> won't there be less overhead not running an nrpe agent at all?
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[13-May-2009 22:47:22] <perr0> the freebsd install doc is funly
[13-May-2009 22:47:27] <perr0> funky
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[14-May-2009 03:20:21] <richardldn> would appreciate it if someone could help me with a wmi issue in 2.4
[14-May-2009 03:22:08] <richardldn> simply put I am unable to model devices using wmi which results in the following error "Failed to connect host 192.168.213.82 on port 2134 - NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED Failed to connect host 192.168.213.82 ((null)) on port 2134 - NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED. " wmic access does work when using a local hosts file
[14-May-2009 03:25:22] <richardldn> the connection itself is through a nat which is what I suspect is causing the issue. Is there any way of debugging this modelling process?
[14-May-2009 04:40:37] <richardldn> does anyone know how to configure zenoss to communicate with devices using there hostname and not ip address?
[14-May-2009 04:56:42] <Appiah_> does it not work as long as it can reach it by it's hostname?
[14-May-2009 05:52:12] <richardldn> I suspect it actually communicates with the device directly using the management ip address not by using it's hostname
[14-May-2009 09:24:24] <perr0> good day Matt, just a brief Q? Did the guy trying to install 2.4 on freebsd ever get it working? He had some type of issue with gettext? Ran into the same thing..
[14-May-2009 09:24:53] <perr0> did a brief search in the forums I'll go back there in a bit
[14-May-2009 09:26:35] <sergeymasushko> perr0: hi, do you mean fonts?
[14-May-2009 09:26:40] <sergeymasushko> for rrd
[14-May-2009 09:29:21] <perr0> sergeymasushko: Hi, hm.. Was I the one who suggested to head over to ##freebsd for assistance and they told you it was a python issue?
[14-May-2009 09:31:52] <perr0> I am checking my history now sorry
[14-May-2009 09:32:29] <sergeymasushko> no
[14-May-2009 09:32:31] <sergeymasushko>
[14-May-2009 09:33:39] <perr0> ok I see this was a user called caseyh20
[14-May-2009 09:59:40] <mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everybody. mrchippy and I will be here today, perhaps more Zenossians will drop in as well
[14-May-2009 10:02:57] <__ian__> Wow, Zenoss dev dept nearly 100% represented here.
[14-May-2009 10:03:48] <mrayzenoss> except the guy who's really supposed to be here
[14-May-2009 10:04:10] <__ian__> Throw something at him.
[14-May-2009 10:04:53] <burlyscudd> mrayzenoss: yo
[14-May-2009 10:04:56] <mrchippy> don't know where he is. he's off getting his pituitary injections.
[14-May-2009 10:05:25] <mrayzenoss> so far it's just Zenoss folks talking to Zenoss folks... so how's Canada Ian?
[14-May-2009 10:05:28] <sergeymasushko> I tried to install a dig monitor zenpack... binded template to a device, but when I tried to open the template I got an error, someone tried this zenpack on 2.4?
[14-May-2009 10:07:11] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: What's the error?
[14-May-2009 10:09:45] <sergeymasushko> __ian__: http://pastebin.com/d4d63a3cf
[14-May-2009 10:10:10] <jb> hello
[14-May-2009 10:10:34] <kalahari8751> I need some guidance on if we are overloading zencommand. We have a schedule with 1166 commands. Recently we've been getting large gaps in our perf graphs. Running the individual templates with zencommand run -v10 -d <device> always succeeds, but I have devices right now where the graphs are very spotty.
[14-May-2009 10:12:44] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: Did you restart Zope after installing the pack?
[14-May-2009 10:13:19] <sergeymasushko> no
[14-May-2009 10:13:26] <__ian__> give that a try.
[14-May-2009 10:15:17] <cgibbons> when in doubt
[14-May-2009 10:15:59] <__ian__> Well, when you get broken ZenPack errors of any kind, good bet it's because Zope needs a restart to pick up the new code.
[14-May-2009 10:16:08] <__ian__> Or that something is legitimately broken, of course.
[14-May-2009 10:17:27] <rocket> Hey Guys
[14-May-2009 10:19:44] <mrayzenoss> woohoo, all 5 developers are here
[14-May-2009 10:20:09] <rocket> damn and I dont really have any questions for them at this point
[14-May-2009 10:20:11] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is slowly creeping out
[14-May-2009 10:20:17] <jb> bleh
[14-May-2009 10:20:19] <bedwards> i'm here now. presentation to sales ran long.
[14-May-2009 10:20:21] <jb> internet problems
[14-May-2009 10:20:27] <jb> you guys got any packet loss to google right now?
[14-May-2009 10:20:46] <mrchippy> aha
[14-May-2009 10:21:30] <mrchippy> sorry wrong window
[14-May-2009 10:22:10] <__ian__> Yeah, google is hurting at the moment. Twitter's aflame with reports.
[14-May-2009 10:22:20] <jb> yeah its probably not google
[14-May-2009 10:22:28] <jb> looks like theres some core routing gone bad
[14-May-2009 10:26:08] <kalahari8751> Sorry if poor etiquette--anyone see my question about zencommand?
[14-May-2009 10:26:37] <mrayzenoss> kalahari8751: go ahead and repost so bedwards can take a look
[14-May-2009 10:26:44] <kalahari8751> I need some guidance on if we are overloading zencommand. We have a schedule with 1166 commands. Recently we've been getting large gaps in our perf graphs. Running the individual templates with zencommand run -v10 -d <device> always succeeds, but I have devices right now where the graphs are very spotty.
[14-May-2009 10:27:13] <rocket> kalahari8751: what is the load on the system? eg is the processor busy etc?
[14-May-2009 10:27:26] <kalahari8751> Ran an strace on zencommand and it seems to be working. Don't know how to diagnose. 4 proc machine, load numbers average about 1.7.
[14-May-2009 10:28:25] <rocket> seems reasonable
[14-May-2009 10:28:29] <kalahari8751> Yeah
[14-May-2009 10:28:49] <kalahari8751> It spikes sometimes but overall load is low
[14-May-2009 10:29:05] <kalahari8751> Can't correlate the gaps in the graphs with load conditions
[14-May-2009 10:29:17] <rocket> kalahari8751: have you run zencommand stop;zencommand start -v 10 and then looked at the zencommand log?
[14-May-2009 10:29:34] <sergeymasushko> how to allow zenoss' users logint to zenoss.bla-bla-bla.net/manage ?
[14-May-2009 10:29:50] <kalahari8751> rocket: no, can do though
[14-May-2009 10:30:25] <rocket> kalahari8751: that will give verbose output when running against all your commands at once .. might find something in the logs then
[14-May-2009 10:30:49] <bedwards> are there any errors in zencommand.log?
[14-May-2009 10:31:55] <kalahari8751> bedwards: No, log looks completely normal. Mostly filled with "schedule has x commands" messages.
[14-May-2009 10:32:47] <rocket> kalahari8751: normal even with the -v10 logging?
[14-May-2009 10:33:35] <kalahari8751> rocket: just restarted zencommand; output is flying by w/results from commands
[14-May-2009 10:34:00] <kalahari8751> Seeing success msgs, lots of rrd storing
[14-May-2009 10:35:48] <kalahari8751> rocket: haven't seen a single error. Output looks like success output I see when running against an individual device.
[14-May-2009 10:36:00] <rocket> kalahari8751: what type of commands are you running?
[14-May-2009 10:36:17] <rocket> kalahari8751: could it be a case where it cannot connect to the remote machine?
[14-May-2009 10:36:36] <rocket> kalahari8751: eg the remote machine is rejecting etc
[14-May-2009 10:37:04] <kalahari8751> rocket: no, they nearly always work unless there's a known condition (system down, WMI problem, etc.). Most are wmic calls or remote winexe exec calls.
[14-May-2009 10:37:29] <kalahari8751> rocket: they are all succeeding.
[14-May-2009 10:38:01] <rocket> has the zenoss machine been restarted lately?
[14-May-2009 10:38:29] <kalahari8751> 11:38:20 up 7 days
[14-May-2009 10:38:44] <rocket> and the graphs have been goofy all 7 days?
[14-May-2009 10:39:03] <rocket> kalahari8751: network issues? causing failures before maybe?
[14-May-2009 10:39:14] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is now out
[14-May-2009 10:40:41] <kalahari8751> rocket: We're not seeing network problems. Like I said, zencommand run -v10 -d device always works, but I have graphs that look very gappy. The reason I think it might be load on zencommand is because: last week manager came in looking for some graphs and we saw that they were mostly not painting.
[14-May-2009 10:41:10] <kalahari8751> rocket: I found on that template someone had set a datasource to every 30 seconds cycle time. I fixed that (to 300 seconds) and graphs started painting.
[14-May-2009 10:41:30] <rocket> kalahari8751: sorry I am just trying to make sure I have asked everything I would normally ask when troubleshooting ..
[14-May-2009 10:42:01] <kalahari8751> rocket: np. Also, I had a device class w/3 perf templates bound, that was working fine. I edited one template and added one new command datasource and two of the perf templates just stopped producing graphs.
[14-May-2009 10:42:40] <kalahari8751> rocket: I disabled this new datasource, but those two are still not producing graphs. Curiously, the third seems fine. However, zencommand run -v10 -d device always collects all of them.
[14-May-2009 10:44:17] <rocket> any spaces etc in the datasource items .. eg .. I found in my troubleshooting I had a space in the datasource .. but zencommand didnt have the space
[14-May-2009 10:44:36] <rocket> kalahari8751: and I had to open each datasource individually and look for leading spaces
[14-May-2009 10:44:49] <kalahari8751> rocket: zenoss version is 2.3.3. Tried a 2.4 upgrade but had to revert, that issue is posted in forums. These problems predated the upgrade attempt however. Yes--there are datasources with spaces.
[14-May-2009 10:44:57] <rocket> kalahari8751: my zencommands collected data but then never updated the rrd file in that case
[14-May-2009 10:45:29] <kalahari8751> rocket: Ahhhh, that may be it. Crap, there's no rename function that doesn't break graphs.
[14-May-2009 10:45:35] <rocket> just make sure the zencommand output matches the datasource definition of the name
[14-May-2009 10:47:40] <rocket> wow it is awefully quiet today
[14-May-2009 10:47:58] <mrayzenoss> yeah, everyone must be sad about the Google outage
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> rocket: well, it seems to be respecting the spaces: DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Queueing event {'manager': 'localhost', 'eventKey': 'CitrixAppLaunch', 'device': 'devicename', 'eventClass': '/Cmd/Fail', 'summary': 'OK', 'component': 'Citrix App Launch', 'agent': 'zencommand', 'severity': 0}
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:storing connectionTime = 4.966 in: Devices/devicename/Citrix App Launch_connectionTime
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> DEBUG:zen.RRDUtil:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/perf/Devices/devicename/Citrix App Launch_connectionTime.rrd: 4.9660000000000002
[14-May-2009 10:48:22] <perr0> is it really an outage?
[14-May-2009 10:48:40] <rocket> kalahari8751: my issue was something like Citrix App Launch_ connectionTime
[14-May-2009 10:48:41] <mrayzenoss> dunno, I'm sure we'll hear something about it once it clears up
[14-May-2009 10:49:00] <rocket> kalahari8751: eg there was a " connectionTime" defined in my data source
[14-May-2009 10:49:01] <kalahari8751> rocket: OK, so the problem may be the space in the data source name?
[14-May-2009 10:49:07] <kalahari8751> OK
[14-May-2009 10:49:09] <kalahari8751> Well
[14-May-2009 10:49:18] <rocket> kalahari8751: but that doesnt seem to be your issue
[14-May-2009 10:49:22] <kalahari8751> rocket: I don't have that issue
[14-May-2009 10:49:49] <rocket> kalahari8751: I would wait and see if it keeps happening with the extended output
[14-May-2009 10:49:52] <kalahari8751> rocket: I don't have any datapoints with spaces, just datasources
[14-May-2009 10:50:03] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[14-May-2009 10:50:22] <rocket> ok I have a question for the devs
[14-May-2009 10:50:37] <kalahari8751> OK. Back to the original question, is there any guidance on how many commands is too many? Does zencommand ever silently drop items if it gets under too much load?
[14-May-2009 10:50:41] <rocket> say I am creating a device that references another device
[14-May-2009 10:50:57] <rocket> would I use a zlink to reference the other device?
[14-May-2009 10:51:16] <rocket> eg I have a Hardware management console .. and it can control many aix systems
[14-May-2009 10:51:31] <mrayzenoss> rocket: yeah, that's a common use case for zLinks
[14-May-2009 10:51:33] <jb> yeah
[14-May-2009 10:51:37] <jb> thats what I use zLinks for
[14-May-2009 10:51:43] <jb> TSM Web client, OpenManage, HMC, etc
[14-May-2009 11:04:15] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[14-May-2009 11:21:41] <mrayzenoss> Well, it's been a quiet session, but I'll be here as I usually am
[14-May-2009 11:21:53] <mrayzenoss> Devs are free to go to lunch
[14-May-2009 11:22:08] <mrayzenoss> Everybody go download 2.4.1 now
[14-May-2009 11:25:15] <jb>
[14-May-2009 11:25:28] <jb> im gonna try to get around to QA'ing 2.4.1 tommorow
[14-May-2009 11:28:15] <rocket> any devs still around?
[14-May-2009 11:28:40] <rocket> looking at the dev guide there is a link object .. 9.4.7 is that different than a zLink?
[14-May-2009 11:30:44] <__ian__> checking
[14-May-2009 11:32:09] <__ian__> ah. Yes, they are unrelated.
[14-May-2009 11:33:35] <rocket> __ian__: I think I want to use a link instead of a zLink .. or is link going away?
[14-May-2009 11:34:59] <edwardam> 2.4.1 changelog ?
[14-May-2009 11:35:14] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Release_Notes_Core_2.4.1.pdf
[14-May-2009 11:35:26] <mrayzenoss> 4 tickets and fixes for OSX Server
[14-May-2009 11:36:17] <perr0> sergeymasushko: to answer your earlier question, I login to zope through http://ipaddy:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/manage
[14-May-2009 11:36:47] <perr0> is there a better way? idk
[14-May-2009 11:38:16] <__ian__> rocket: they're totally different things. zLink is just a zProperty and does nothing but display custom HTML in the UI. that <link> element you pointed to is nothing more than a way to indicate a relationship to another object in the database; not sure how you'd use that.
[14-May-2009 11:38:54] <rocket> __ian__: well say I have a hmc modeled and it discovers a server it controls
[14-May-2009 11:38:55] <sergeymasushko> perr0: I've used link like http://ipaddy:8080/manage
[14-May-2009 11:39:13] <rocket> __ian__: wouldnt I want to just link to the server already in the database?
[14-May-2009 11:39:32] <perr0> try :8080/zport/dmd/manage
[14-May-2009 11:39:35] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: That's logging in to the root of Zope, which Zenoss users can't do.
[14-May-2009 11:39:49] <__ian__> What perr0 said. Try zport or zport/dmd.
[14-May-2009 11:40:08] <__ian__> rocket: In what context? That is, what do you mean by "link"?
[14-May-2009 11:40:35] <rocket> eg --- hmc <-link-> server1
[14-May-2009 11:40:48] <rocket> eg --- hmc <-link-> server2
[14-May-2009 11:40:50] <__ian__> no, I get that...what I mean is, what is your end goal?
[14-May-2009 11:41:12] <rocket> eg I want to be able to go to the hmc ... and make a page that shows the different servers
[14-May-2009 11:41:17] <__ian__> A UI anchor tag? Or some low-level relationship for a new feature?
[14-May-2009 11:41:32] <sergeymasushko> but I tried it before upgrade and it works
[14-May-2009 11:41:32] <__ian__> Yeah, that <link> element is not how you would do that.
[14-May-2009 11:42:02] <rocket> __ian__: I am not sure yet I guess .. I might want to pull some server stat into the hmc webpage .. but initially probably not ..
[14-May-2009 11:42:16] <rocket> __ian__: a UI anchor tag is probably all I would need initially
[14-May-2009 11:42:17] <__ian__> rocket: The hmc will presumably have some reference to the servers -- IP, hostname, something. You make a template that looks those up.
[14-May-2009 11:43:00] <__ian__> That is, that takes the string referring to the server and basically finds the related Device object in the database, and makes an anchor tag pointing there.
[14-May-2009 11:43:42] <rocket> __ian__: but then from a device perspective there is no real link .. ?
[14-May-2009 11:44:49] <__ian__> Oh, I see what you are saying. You want to pull zenoss content into the hmc? I somehow glossed over that.
[14-May-2009 11:46:01] <rocket> __ian__: eg hmc goes down .. I may not wish to get alerts about the systems going down .. (bad example ... but thats kind of the thought )
[14-May-2009 11:46:07] <__ian__> The <link> element is just output from the device dump. It's a way for the XML to refer to other objects in the Zope database without redefining them. It is in no way related to anything user-facing.
[14-May-2009 11:46:33] <rocket> __ian__: ok .. so I would have to do a relationship then ..
[14-May-2009 11:46:48] <__ian__> Well, not necessarily. It can be dynamic.
[14-May-2009 11:46:50] <rocket> __ian__: probably a one-to-one non container relationship?
[14-May-2009 11:47:13] <rocket> __ian__: oh? howso?
[14-May-2009 11:47:48] <__ian__> so...the HMC is a Device in Zenoss, right?
[14-May-2009 11:47:55] <rocket> yes
[14-May-2009 11:48:12] <rocket> its standalone .. but it knows about the servers
[14-May-2009 11:48:12] <__ian__> and it models, and gets back...what, a list of strings referring to servers?
[14-May-2009 11:48:25] <rocket> yes
[14-May-2009 11:49:02] <__ian__> So if you have that list stored as an attribute of the object, you can build your template to iterate over the list and do a catalog lookup
[14-May-2009 11:50:32] <__ian__> <tal:block tal:repeat="server here/listOfHostnames"><a tal:attributes="href python:here.dmd.Devices.findDevice(server).absolute_url_path()">Server</a></tal:block>
[14-May-2009 11:50:37] <__ian__> something like that.
[14-May-2009 11:50:43] <__ian__> make sense?
[14-May-2009 11:50:49] <rocket> ok thats kind of what I thought ..
[14-May-2009 11:50:54] <rocket> it does ..
[14-May-2009 11:51:07] <__ian__> A more formal relationship gets you into difficulty
[14-May-2009 11:51:18] <__ian__> because then you have to keep the relationships synced on every model
[14-May-2009 11:51:23] <rocket> I am assuming deleting it is a pain etc ..
[14-May-2009 11:51:27] <__ian__> whereas if it's just a list of strings that isn't needed.
[14-May-2009 11:52:35] <__ian__> Your dependency scenario is more difficult, and then you would probably need some relatively complex setup
[14-May-2009 11:53:51] <rocket> __ian__: would it ever make sense from a event monitoring perspective to link them via a dependancy?
[14-May-2009 11:54:21] <rocket> __ian__: another example .. a cisco fiber switch port and a server
[14-May-2009 11:55:10] <rocket> eg if the port goes down .. dont alert on the server port failure .. something along those lines .. or would that be handled better in a transform?
[14-May-2009 11:55:50] <rocket> __ian__: I am just trying to understand how to best handle these dependancies as I am programming things so I have less work in the long run with the other admins or users using it
[14-May-2009 11:56:08] <__ian__> A transform is the easiest way, certainly.
[14-May-2009 11:57:07] <__ian__> Creating and maintaining actual relationships between objects is a huge deal. Our Enterprise VMWare pack has to do that between hosts and guests.
[14-May-2009 11:58:02] <rocket> __ian__: well my hmc might need to be a similar model... or a vio and lpar relationship etc ..
[14-May-2009 11:58:55] <rocket> eg an aix system can have a <server_frame> -> <virtual_io server> -> <lpar/real_server>
[14-May-2009 11:59:19] <rocket> __ian__: and that probably needs to be handled similarly to an enterprise vmware pack
[14-May-2009 11:59:29] <__ian__> rocket: Exactly. You'd need to write custom classes for those things, to handle relationships back and forth, and find a sane way to keep those updated on remodel.
[14-May-2009 11:59:42] <__ian__> rocket: It's quite the undertaking.
[14-May-2009 11:59:50] <rocket> __ian__: custom classes arent an issue with me
[14-May-2009 12:00:00] <rocket> __ian__: you havent seen my aix zenpack yet
[14-May-2009 12:00:17] <rocket> __ian__: you should ask matt for the screenshots
[14-May-2009 12:01:01] <rocket> __ian__: I have a os->volumegroup->logical_volume->filesystem relationship working ..
[14-May-2009 12:01:29] <__ian__> rocket: Well, that's good. You probably won't have an enormous amount of trouble, then. You might have a bit of a time with the servers, since they'd need to be mutated to a new class to include the relationship back to the HMC
[14-May-2009 12:01:58] <rocket> __ian__: I already mutated them for other screens I needed to do
[14-May-2009 12:02:03] <__ian__> rocket: Your previous statement was correct. You'd use a ToManyRelationship on the HMC side, and a ToOneRelationship on the server side.
[14-May-2009 12:02:10] <rocket> __ian__: I needed to override __init__
[14-May-2009 12:02:12] <__ian__> No containment.
[14-May-2009 12:02:28] <rocket> to get os=AIXOperatingSystem .. and hw=AIXDeviceHW ..
[14-May-2009 12:02:38] <__ian__> ah, right. That's cool.
[14-May-2009 12:04:25] <rocket> __ian__: alrighty then I guess I will just need to figure out non-container relationships
[14-May-2009 12:05:31] <__ian__> Look at the relationships between IpInterface and IpAddress for an example
[14-May-2009 12:06:32] <rocket> __ian__: thanks ..
[14-May-2009 12:06:57] <rocket> __ian__: now I need to just think through how aix partition mobility will work with this stuff ..
[14-May-2009 12:07:27] <rocket> __ian__: it would be easier if I could see how you guys did it with the vmware one .. but as I am not an enterprise customer I understand
[14-May-2009 12:07:58] <rocket> I am just grateful you guys come around to answer my questions ..
[14-May-2009 12:10:16] <rocket> __ian__: another quick question for you
[14-May-2009 12:10:44] <rocket> __ian__: in my development I have found that as I change the device model I have had to delete and recreate the device for my changes to be picked up
[14-May-2009 12:10:55] <rocket> __ian__: is there a more graceful way to handle that?
[14-May-2009 12:11:21] <__ian__> you should not need to do that. Probably just restarting zope and remodeling it will work.
[14-May-2009 12:11:24] <rocket> __ian__: eg I was adding cdroms to my aix device and they didnt show up until i deleted the device and then discovered it again
[14-May-2009 12:11:50] <rocket> __ian__: ok I will have to play with it some more to see if I keep running into that problem
[14-May-2009 12:11:59] <__ian__> zopectl restart && zenhub restart && zenmodeler run -d mydevice
[14-May-2009 12:12:44] <rocket> __ian__: I was just concerned future development would hose up my old object model etc .. so I had to totally define the device class before I went to production here with it
[14-May-2009 12:12:56] <rocket> __ian__: if what you say is true I am less concerned
[14-May-2009 12:13:46] <__ian__> If that doesn't work, a migrate script is an approach less drastic than deleting and re-adding.
[14-May-2009 12:14:11] <rocket> __ian__: any examples of migrate scripts that might do that?
[14-May-2009 12:14:13] <__ian__> tho I dunno why that'd be necessary in this scenario.
[14-May-2009 12:14:25] <__ian__> not really, since you shouldn't need it.
[14-May-2009 12:14:31] <rocket> k
[14-May-2009 12:14:34] <rocket> thanks again
[14-May-2009 12:14:36] <__ian__> sure
[14-May-2009 13:26:54] <rmatte> any python experts: http://pastebin.com/m136aa599
[14-May-2009 13:27:21] <rmatte> this script does an snmpwalk on an OID then outputs it in nagios format...
[14-May-2009 13:27:59] <rmatte> rmatte@gen01:~$ ./snmp_branch.py -d <censored> -c <censored> -o 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2 -p 161 --label="cpu"
[14-May-2009 13:28:00] <rmatte> |cpu0=13 cpu1=13 cpu2=26 cpu3=49
[14-May-2009 13:28:09] <rmatte> it auto-increments the label specified
[14-May-2009 13:28:17] <rmatte> I want to get it to start at 1 instead of 0
[14-May-2009 13:28:20] <rmatte> so cpu1 and so on
[14-May-2009 13:28:46] <rmatte> the obvious way to do this would be to change line 61 from i = 0 to i = 1, but this doesn't work
[14-May-2009 13:29:08] <rmatte> I've also tried changing a ton of other values in the script and no changes seem to even impact the operation of the script
[14-May-2009 13:29:15] <rmatte> and it still displays cpu0 and so on...
[14-May-2009 13:29:19] <rmatte> any ideas?
[14-May-2009 13:30:49] <kisielk> lets see..
[14-May-2009 13:34:23] <kisielk> need to install pysnmp
[14-May-2009 13:34:26] <kisielk> give me a moment
[14-May-2009 13:34:28] <rmatte> k
[14-May-2009 13:34:30] <rmatte> thanks
[14-May-2009 13:36:00] <rmatte> it'd be nice to see this type of functionality in Zenoss, so that you could dynamically add data points based on a string of snmp values
[14-May-2009 13:36:20] <rmatte> would be great for multi-cpu systems, and stuff like monitoring wireless signals on wireless access points
[14-May-2009 13:41:09] <kisielk> interesting
[14-May-2009 13:41:14] <kisielk> this code is a bit funny
[14-May-2009 13:41:23] <rmatte> you're telling me
[14-May-2009 13:41:25] <rmatte> I didn't write it
[14-May-2009 13:41:26] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 13:43:33] <kisielk> okay, basically it's getting the numbers from "leaves"
[14-May-2009 13:43:35] <kisielk> and not i
[14-May-2009 13:44:54] <kisielk> i is only used if you set ival
[14-May-2009 13:45:25] <kisielk> this is some pretty horrible python code though
[14-May-2009 13:45:25] <kisielk> heh
[14-May-2009 13:48:30] <rmatte> I thought it might be from leaves
[14-May-2009 13:48:36] <rmatte> but then there's no real way to fix it
[14-May-2009 13:49:11] <rmatte> the code is quite the mess
[14-May-2009 13:51:28] <kisielk> yeah, it's a trainwreck
[14-May-2009 13:57:19] edwardam is now known as edwardam|mtg
[14-May-2009 14:00:42] <chudler> rmatte: just curious, but did that come from <http://www.linuxdynasty.org/howto-monitor-and-add-multiple-data-points-the-easy-way-in-zenos.html> ?
[14-May-2009 14:01:11] <chudler> aka the thread at http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=31793#31793 ?
[14-May-2009 14:01:38] <rmatte> chudler: yeh it did
[14-May-2009 14:01:53] <chudler> I really love the idea of what it is trying to do. Never looked at the code
[14-May-2009 14:02:04] <rmatte> the code is messy, but what it's trying to do is great
[14-May-2009 14:02:20] <rmatte> especially since I'm monitoring a bunch of windows servers using the default windows SNMP agent
[14-May-2009 14:02:32] <rmatte> and it sucks because the OIDs for the CPUs tend to wander
[14-May-2009 14:02:51] <rocket> rmatte: you just want it to start at 1?
[14-May-2009 14:02:54] <rmatte> like they'll be .1 .2 .3 .4, one day, then .2, .3, .4, .5 the next day
[14-May-2009 14:03:15] <rmatte> yeh, when I do --label="cpu"
[14-May-2009 14:03:19] <rmatte> it does cpu0, cpu1, etc...
[14-May-2009 14:03:25] <rmatte> I want it to be cpu1, cpu2, etc...
[14-May-2009 14:03:48] <rocket> can you try putting on line 63
[14-May-2009 14:03:53] <rocket> leaves += 1
[14-May-2009 14:04:21] <rocket> or does that throw off the index .. hrmm let me see
[14-May-2009 14:04:42] <rmatte> doesn't work at all
[14-May-2009 14:04:52] <rmatte> script still runs normally though
[14-May-2009 14:05:12] <rmatte> |cpu0=10 cpu1=17 cpu2=25 cpu3=49
[14-May-2009 14:05:52] <rmatte> and that would probably throw off the index
[14-May-2009 14:07:05] <chudler> the code duplicates a lot of effort :-) simply change "str(leaves)" to "str(leaves+1)" in the appropriate place
[14-May-2009 14:07:43] <rocket> try this line 83
[14-May-2009 14:08:04] <rocket> out1 = "%s%s=%s" % (label[0],str(leaves+1),SnmpBranch[leaves][0][1])
[14-May-2009 14:08:19] <rmatte> sweet
[14-May-2009 14:08:23] <rmatte> that works, thanks guys
[14-May-2009 14:08:45] <rocket> rmatte: it might miss some border cases .. but you know where to look now
[14-May-2009 14:08:56] <rmatte> border cases?
[14-May-2009 14:09:17] <rocket> eg things that the other if statements are catching
[14-May-2009 14:09:36] <rmatte> oh well, I'm only using it for a very specific task
[14-May-2009 14:09:41] <rmatte> and it seems to be working fine for that
[14-May-2009 14:09:43] <rocket> eg if it ever prints default0 and you wanted it to print default1
[14-May-2009 14:09:54] <rmatte> ah
[14-May-2009 14:10:24] <rmatte> that's fixed now too
[14-May-2009 14:10:28] <rmatte> just modified the other line
[14-May-2009 14:10:28] <rocket> the outl= lines are the lines that are the strings you would need to find ..
[14-May-2009 14:10:40] <rmatte> |default1=12 default2=21 default3=29 default4=38
[14-May-2009 14:11:12] <chudler> no offense to the author, but that printMagic method does make me want to poke my eyes out. Must. resist. urge. to. rewrite.
[14-May-2009 14:11:27] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:11:36] <rmatte> meh, if it works it works
[14-May-2009 14:11:57] <rmatte> heck, if I was writing the script I'd do it in bash
[14-May-2009 14:11:58] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:12:35] <rmatte> since I'm way better at bash than python right now
[14-May-2009 14:12:49] <chudler> of course, language is not *the* most important consideration. I imagine someone could write a beautiful implementation in bash, or a horrible one.
[14-May-2009 14:13:13] <rmatte> here's a script that I wrote for monitoring RAM on windows servers that have the default SNMP agent installed
[14-May-2009 14:13:15] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m3e357f22
[14-May-2009 14:13:32] <rmatte> it finds the right OID for the memory (since the OID changes based on the number of physical volumes on each device)
[14-May-2009 14:14:25] <rmatte> works like a charm
[14-May-2009 14:14:38] <rmatte> calculates the percentage in use as well, so it's easier to threshold
[14-May-2009 14:15:03] <rmatte> I need to write something like it for Cisco and IBM network devices so that we can threshold on memory usage in percentage
[14-May-2009 14:15:10] <mrayzenoss_> chudler: feel free to send Allen patches to his script, I'm sure he'd be happy for feedback
[14-May-2009 14:15:11] <chudler> that's just the kind of thing that would NEVER break.
[14-May-2009 14:15:35] <rmatte> what would never break?
[14-May-2009 14:15:39] <chudler> your bash
[14-May-2009 14:15:46] <rmatte> being sarcastic?
[14-May-2009 14:15:48] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:16:06] <rmatte> seems pretty solid so far, been running it for a couple months now without issues
[14-May-2009 14:16:12] <chudler> no, sarcasm doesn't work over the internet :-). I am deadly serious. Its just not complicated, so that's nice.
[14-May-2009 14:16:19] <rmatte> it's maybe a bit more load intensive than if I had done in in python
[14-May-2009 14:16:22] <rmatte> but it works nicely
[14-May-2009 14:16:56] <rmatte> yeh, simplicity is nice hehe
[14-May-2009 14:17:18] <rmatte> it'd be nice to see stuff like that built right in to Zenoss though
[14-May-2009 14:17:33] <rmatte> the best I've seen uses snmp informant, but not everyone wants to use snmp informant
[14-May-2009 14:17:58] <rmatte> a mix of Allen's script and my script (recoded in python or something) would make monitoring the default Windows SNMP agent a breeze
[14-May-2009 14:18:53] <rmatte> plus you could make it so that the graphs dynamically adjust based on the number of CPUs
[14-May-2009 14:41:21] <mydog2> nirvana!
[14-May-2009 14:41:24] <mydog2> hi...
[14-May-2009 14:41:36] <mydog2> hello?
[14-May-2009 14:48:43] <mydog2> hello?
[14-May-2009 14:49:04] <rmatte> hello
[14-May-2009 14:49:20] <mydog2> aha.. someone is here... good...
[14-May-2009 14:49:42] <mydog2> hi. i've just come across zenoss.. and i'm trying to get my head around it..
[14-May-2009 14:50:16] <mydog2> as i understand it.. the app is web based.. and can be used to monitor processes on different servers within my network..
[14-May-2009 14:50:25] <mydog2> am i right so far?
[14-May-2009 14:50:40] <__ian__> Processes and many other things.
[14-May-2009 14:50:42] <rmatte> correct
[14-May-2009 14:51:22] <mydog2> ok.. so i'm guessing that it works by having client apps on the client machines which connect back with the master zenoss server..
[14-May-2009 14:51:34] <rocket> mydog2: not necessarily
[14-May-2009 14:51:37] <__ian__> No. Well, snmpd.
[14-May-2009 14:51:42] <rocket> mydog2: ssh or snmpd
[14-May-2009 14:51:50] <rocket> or wmi on windows .. etc ..
[14-May-2009 14:52:08] <__ian__> There's no Zenoss agent.
[14-May-2009 14:52:09] <jb> no propreitary agent..
[14-May-2009 14:52:11] <rmatte> it's all effectively agentless
[14-May-2009 14:52:17] <mydog2> ok so for a linux system.. does the master server poll the boxes in the network?
[14-May-2009 14:52:18] <jb> standard methods are snmp/ssh, and wmi for windows..
[14-May-2009 14:52:23] <jb> yep
[14-May-2009 14:52:45] <rmatte> you'd setup snmp on your linux servers, and also optionally collect info via ssh
[14-May-2009 14:53:00] <mydog2> so how does it stop/start a remote process...
[14-May-2009 14:53:13] <rmatte> why would you need it to?
[14-May-2009 14:53:28] <jb> an event could trigger a zencommand..
[14-May-2009 14:55:02] <mydog2> rmatte - for my situation.. i'm going to have different processes running on client systems.. i'm looking for a way to manage the remote apps, get up/down time, etc.. as well as being able to start/stop the processes on the remote machines...
[14-May-2009 14:55:16] <__ian__> Yeah, you can set Zenoss up to react to various events by executing arbitrary commands
[14-May-2009 14:56:05] <rmatte> you could setup Zenoss to login and try to start a process on a Linux server if it sees the process go down
[14-May-2009 14:56:11] <__ian__> Zenoss can monitor the uptime of processes. When a process goes away, Zenoss will generate an event saying it stopped, and you can hook that up to a command sshing into the box to restart it, if you like.
[14-May-2009 14:56:15] <__ian__> What rmatte said.
[14-May-2009 14:56:36] <rmatte> also, Zenoss can collect CPU usage, memory usage, and process count for each individual process on a server
[14-May-2009 14:57:20] <mydog2> rmatte - ok.. good.. so it might work...
[14-May-2009 14:57:46] <mydog2> zenoss is python right?
[14-May-2009 14:57:50] <davidX_> has anyone installed the hp proliant mibs zenpack before? how long did it take to install for you?
[14-May-2009 14:57:53] <rmatte> correct
[14-May-2009 14:57:56] <jb> yeah.. python/zope
[14-May-2009 14:57:59] <rocket> mydog2: python and zope ..
[14-May-2009 14:58:00] <jb> and mysql for events
[14-May-2009 14:58:24] <rmatte> davidX_: well, the cisco Mibs pack takes like 5-7 hours to install
[14-May-2009 14:58:40] <rmatte> davidX_: not sure how many Mibs are in the proliant pack, but it could take a while
[14-May-2009 14:59:18] <davidX_> rmatte: k, wasn't sure what to expect with it being a 700k file
[14-May-2009 14:59:47] <mydog2> anyone have knowledge of how zenoss compares to nagios...
[14-May-2009 14:59:48] <rmatte> the Cisco Mibs pack is only about 3Mb
[14-May-2009 14:59:53] <rmatte> but it takes 5-7 hours
[14-May-2009 15:00:00] <mydog2> are they simialr.. or is it apples/oranges..
[14-May-2009 15:00:05] <mydog2> similar
[14-May-2009 15:00:12] <rmatte> They are similar, Zenoss is a bit more user friendly
[14-May-2009 15:00:31] <jb> have you used nagios? it's a nightmare to maintain and configure
[14-May-2009 15:00:39] <jb> and zenoss can also use nagios plugins natively
[14-May-2009 15:00:39] <rmatte> yeh, it's pretty bad
[14-May-2009 15:00:46] <rmatte> I actually used it as part of groundworks
[14-May-2009 15:00:50] <rmatte> so it wasn't such a nightmare
[14-May-2009 15:00:54] <rmatte> still pretty bad though
[14-May-2009 15:03:35] <edwardam> syslog question ... I have a switch syslogging to zenoss (confirmed via verbose logging of zensyslog), but I'm not getting events.... I think I'm missing something... Any ideas?
[14-May-2009 15:04:40] <mydog2> going to have to think about this a bit...
[14-May-2009 15:05:21] <rocket> mydog2: if you know python then it is pretty reasonable to come up with new extensions to zenoss as well .. or even if you dont know python you can do quite a lot
[14-May-2009 15:06:27] <mrayzenoss> mydog2: there's a Getting Started with Zenoss webinar next week
[14-May-2009 15:10:22] edwardam is now known as edwardam|lnch
[14-May-2009 15:10:45] <jb> where is all the new ssh documentation?
[14-May-2009 15:10:51] <jb> is it only 12.8 in the dev guide?
[14-May-2009 15:11:04] <jb> 12.8.2
[14-May-2009 15:12:00] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/SshZenpack
[14-May-2009 15:12:07] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/HowToAddSshTest
[14-May-2009 15:12:12] <jb> ah thanks
[14-May-2009 15:12:18] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/DeviceModel
[14-May-2009 15:24:15] <joshmoore> Is there any API call to duplicate a template?
[14-May-2009 15:49:01] <rocket> does anyone know if you can apply templates to groups?
[14-May-2009 15:49:10] <rocket> eg I have a group of webservers
[14-May-2009 15:49:21] <rocket> I would like to apply a webserver template to that group
[14-May-2009 15:55:15] <donspaulding> is there a way to use public/private keys to monitor over SSH instead of username/password?
[14-May-2009 16:00:00] <mrayzenoss> yes
[14-May-2009 16:00:20] <mrayzenoss> you'll want to give the keys to your 'zenoss' user
[14-May-2009 16:09:44] <davidX_> my hp mibs have installed but i don't see a template under bindings, should something automagically occur from these, or?
[14-May-2009 16:10:48] <mrayzenoss> no
[14-May-2009 16:11:02] <mrayzenoss> MIBs are used by Zenoss to translate incoming SNMP traps
[14-May-2009 16:11:15] <mrayzenoss> they aren't used for monitoring per se
[14-May-2009 16:11:31] <davidX_> k, i wasn't sure if the snmp side would automatically pick up everything
[14-May-2009 16:11:39] <davidX_> will read more
[14-May-2009 16:13:48] <davidX_> hmm, i install nagios checkping but don't see that under templates either, should it be?
[14-May-2009 16:13:56] <davidX_> i've restarted the necessary services
[14-May-2009 16:15:24] <mrayzenoss> did you follow the docs for that ZenPack? They're pretty good if memory serves
[14-May-2009 16:15:57] <davidX_> ahh, fixed
[14-May-2009 16:15:58] <davidX_> sorry
[14-May-2009 16:16:01] <davidX_> having too much fun
[14-May-2009 16:17:21] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: thanks, I've got the zenoss user's keys set up and it seems to be able to login successfully (according to the Model Device output), now onto collecting real data from the box!
[14-May-2009 16:17:35] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: excellent
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[14-May-2009 16:46:01] bluelion is now known as edwardam
[14-May-2009 16:56:07] <erik123> has anyone seen the new zenoss visually break the menus?
[14-May-2009 16:56:22] <erik123> anything that is not an active tab has a large border around it
[14-May-2009 16:59:16] <erik123> ah, never mind. found the fix here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9718
[14-May-2009 17:15:24] <joshmoore> are the problems with used_blocks (http://www.paste-it.net/public/dca0693/) in the filesystem template in 2.4.0 known?
[14-May-2009 17:21:29] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4978 ?
[14-May-2009 17:27:13] <joshmoore> hmmm...no. we did just migrate from 2.3.x
[14-May-2009 17:28:35] <joshmoore> but the template's not bindable to any devices, and clicking on the data source causes that paste.
[14-May-2009 17:32:21] <mrayzenoss> well, here's the list of current issues against 2.4.2: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[14-May-2009 17:33:34] <mrayzenoss> please open a ticket if you don't see your issue
[14-May-2009 17:34:10] <joshmoore> will do.
[14-May-2009 22:03:08] <kelvinq> hello!
[14-May-2009 22:04:35] <kelvinq> i've installed zenossplugins on a linux2 system but zenoss still complains that it cannot find uptime and intf. can anyone help?
[14-May-2009 22:04:48] <kelvinq> process, mem and io are all okay though.
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[15-May-2009 00:06:50] <kelvinq> hello!
[15-May-2009 00:06:55] <kelvinq> from singapore.
[15-May-2009 03:00:49] * ToeiRei waves hello.
[15-May-2009 03:31:55] <kelvinq> hello!
[15-May-2009 03:32:04] <kelvinq> as in, hello ToeiRei!
[15-May-2009 03:34:52] <ToeiRei>
[15-May-2009 03:39:54] <ToeiRei> I am trying to build zenoss from source. The installer terminates while installing wmi
[15-May-2009 03:40:39] <ToeiRei> is there an unknown dependency or simmilar?
[15-May-2009 03:41:59] <ToeiRei> That looks like the error from the log: http://pastebin.com/m59b53562
[15-May-2009 03:56:23] <ToeiRei> I'm using the svn branch 2.4.x... URL: http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/branches/zenoss-2.4.x/inst
[15-May-2009 04:08:39] <kelvinq> hmph. can't help ToeiRei. i am a noob too. using the entire zenoss stack package. super heavy stuff!
[15-May-2009 04:13:01] <ToeiRei> I'll try the tarball... just to make sure
[15-May-2009 04:29:35] <ToeiRei> Glad that I am used to compile stuff on gentoo *g*
[15-May-2009 04:39:09] <dysprosia> Does zenoss let you correlate perfomance events with how long it has been in that state for? (ie., alert on high CPU only if it's been that way for a while)
[15-May-2009 04:39:19] <dysprosia> it seems like it can but it's not quite clear.
[15-May-2009 04:48:22] <ToeiRei> sorry, I'm still installing - so I can't tell yet
[15-May-2009 05:32:35] <ToeiRei> same issue
[15-May-2009 06:15:14] <ToeiRei> I guess I am pretty stuck
[15-May-2009 07:05:26] <ToeiRei> okay... I guess I could track it down to the wmi package
[15-May-2009 09:15:29] <rocket> morning matt
[15-May-2009 09:15:36] <mrayzenoss> good morning
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[15-May-2009 10:23:54] <perr0> sup caseyh20
[15-May-2009 10:28:34] <caseyh20> hi perr0, any news on the iconv.h issue?
[15-May-2009 10:31:09] <perr0> I submitted a post for help on bug-gnu-utils list
[15-May-2009 10:31:59] <perr0> did you read the link I posted? I been messing with the rrddeps.sh script zenoss provides but nothing has worked
[15-May-2009 10:32:57] <caseyh20> yeah I read it, I had seen it before while searching. I have been messing with the rrddeps.sh and some of the makefiles with no luck
[15-May-2009 10:33:43] <caseyh20> I notice in the forums a user was able to get zenoss 2.4.0 running on FreeBSD 7.1 no problem so I upgraded from 7.0 but I still have the same problem.
[15-May-2009 10:33:55] <caseyh20> have you tried zenoss 2.4.1?
[15-May-2009 10:34:30] <perr0> I think that was something else, no I am not going to jump to it yet probably has the same gettext version
[15-May-2009 10:37:11] <perr0> I guess I can downloaded it and check
[15-May-2009 10:37:19] <perr0> just don't have time
[15-May-2009 10:41:54] <mrayzenoss_> yeah, the changes for 2.4.1 were minimal
[15-May-2009 10:44:03] <mrayzenoss_> I opened a high priority ticket for King Crab to fix the build issues for FreeBSD and other platforms: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
[15-May-2009 10:44:29] <mrayzenoss_> our build engineer is making this a priority
[15-May-2009 10:44:37] <mrayzenoss_> since it's so embarassing
[15-May-2009 10:45:01] <mrayzenoss_> didn't really affect us since we build on RHEL 5.3 primarily
[15-May-2009 10:45:19] <mrayzenoss_> and then I noticed that I found it for source builds on almost every other platform
[15-May-2009 10:45:57] <mrayzenoss_> except Debian 5, which is the distro I use for building from source
[15-May-2009 10:46:17] <caseyh20> lol, you guys should use an Automated Virtual Lab for testing/QA
[15-May-2009 10:47:03] <caseyh20> I watched an interesting presentation about it yesterday at the Phoenix VMware User Group Confrence
[15-May-2009 10:47:36] <mrayzenoss_> right now we use buildbot with a ton of VMs, but we're not testing source builds on multiple platforms, just the install artifacts
[15-May-2009 10:47:58] <caseyh20> ah
[15-May-2009 10:48:03] <mrayzenoss_> so that's a deficiency in our process
[15-May-2009 10:48:35] <mrayzenoss_> but we test on about 40 VMs
[15-May-2009 10:49:14] <mrayzenoss_> everything on the download page has a VM for testing, except the source builds
[15-May-2009 10:51:32] <caseyh20> have you guys looked into labmanager from VMlogix?
[15-May-2009 10:52:45] <mrayzenoss_> not that I'm aware of
[15-May-2009 11:03:45] <perr0> at least zenoss is multiplatform which is great.
[15-May-2009 11:04:42] <gemineye> Good morning Mr. Ray
[15-May-2009 11:05:00] <perr0> hehe is Matt Ray
[15-May-2009 11:05:17] <perr0> oops
[15-May-2009 11:06:15] <gemineye> Hey mrayzenoss, if you ever have any kids, and one is a boy, you should name him Sting He'll be the coolest kid in school.
[15-May-2009 11:06:32] <gemineye> hehe, I made a funny
[15-May-2009 11:12:41] <mrayzenoss_> or a girl named Sunny
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[15-May-2009 11:13:30] <mrayzenoss> I like the name Xavier as well
[15-May-2009 11:35:47] <rocket> I wished my last name was byte .. so i could have had a daughter named meg a. byte
[15-May-2009 11:45:48] <caseyh20> lol
[15-May-2009 11:59:15] <cain22> hello all
[15-May-2009 11:59:34] <cain22> mrayzenoss: you there?
[15-May-2009 11:59:49] <mrayzenoss> yeah, sitting in a planning meeting
[15-May-2009 11:59:58] <cain22> or, anyone here have a zendmd issue after upgrading to 2.4.1?
[15-May-2009 12:01:39] <mrayzenoss> cain22: is there a thread or link with an example?
[15-May-2009 12:01:47] <mrayzenoss> dev is watching the forums for new issues
[15-May-2009 12:02:05] <cain22> mrayzenoss: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34867#34867
[15-May-2009 12:03:46] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to get someone to respond to the thread
[15-May-2009 12:04:08] <cain22> thanks
[15-May-2009 12:04:09] <cain22>
[15-May-2009 12:05:14] <cain22> Anyone having IE display issues after the upgrade?
[15-May-2009 12:06:43] <rocket> cain22: refrsh your browser cache
[15-May-2009 12:07:18] <mrayzenoss> cain22: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4979 is this what you're seeing?
[15-May-2009 12:07:31] <mrayzenoss> the only one we have on the radar yet
[15-May-2009 12:08:19] <cain22> rocket: did that already
[15-May-2009 12:08:24] <cain22> i followed the steps
[15-May-2009 12:09:27] <cain22> mrayzenoss: no, mine is all around display, not just events
[15-May-2009 12:09:52] <cain22> i've got a case opened for it...was just curious if anyone else had the same issue
[15-May-2009 12:18:58] <jeld> I have several web servers behind load balancers, I wonder if I can match "server down" events in such a way that if one server is down it is a warning, but if all servers are down it is a critical event, so zenoss matches up and down events about multiple devices
[15-May-2009 12:19:41] <mrayzenoss> you could do that with an event transform
[15-May-2009 12:20:19] <afink> Is there a way to have links drawn on the google map when you are on the same network, but not same subnet?
[15-May-2009 12:20:22] <jeld> mrayzenoss, somehow I cannot even match up down events about one server together
[15-May-2009 12:20:49] <jeld> mrayzenoss, I tried just changing the even class the way it says in the manual and events stopped mapping correctly
[15-May-2009 12:22:10] <jeld> I should probably upgrade to 2.4.1 first and then try again
[15-May-2009 12:22:30] <mrayzenoss> jeld: take a look at the Event Management paper here: http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jcurry.html
[15-May-2009 12:23:54] * mrayzenoss is off to lunch
[15-May-2009 12:24:09] <perr0> caseyh20: you here?
[15-May-2009 12:26:33] <caseyh20> yeah
[15-May-2009 12:27:22] <perr0> ok so I think I solved the gettext issue
[15-May-2009 12:27:51] <perr0> grr
[15-May-2009 12:28:01] <caseyh20> what did you find out?
[15-May-2009 12:30:10] <perr0> ok so I removed the gettext-0.7 and the patch
[15-May-2009 12:30:33] <perr0> in the rrddeps.sh
[15-May-2009 12:30:41] <perr0> I comment it out the patch
[15-May-2009 12:30:49] <perr0> or any conf options
[15-May-2009 12:31:52] <caseyh20> and it worked?
[15-May-2009 12:32:24] <perr0> and downloaded the previous version gettext from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gettext/
[15-May-2009 12:32:45] <perr0> sorry I am on the phone and here
[15-May-2009 12:32:57] <caseyh20> lol, np
[15-May-2009 12:33:23] <caseyh20> so version 0.16?
[15-May-2009 12:33:41] <perr0> yes 016
[15-May-2009 12:34:14] <perr0> now the installation is going to break because you will need to link the correct freetype dir
[15-May-2009 12:34:27] <perr0> the developers put the freetype dir under Linux
[15-May-2009 12:34:37] <perr0> or for Linux
[15-May-2009 12:34:54] <caseyh20> right
[15-May-2009 12:42:09] <caseyh20> as anyone seen this before? http://pastebin.com/d56bdb519
[15-May-2009 12:45:49] <perr0> could you just back up your events table and do a fresh zenoss install?
[15-May-2009 12:46:15] <caseyh20> I could
[15-May-2009 12:47:58] <rmatte> is anyone here any good with expect?
[15-May-2009 12:48:07] <rmatte> I've been pouring over examples trying to figure something out
[15-May-2009 12:48:30] <rmatte> I wrote a script that outputs "sh ip int brie" from cisco routers, and stores the output from each device in a file
[15-May-2009 12:48:58] <rmatte> what I'd like it to do is send a space whenever the Cisco router prompts with the output of "--More--" so that the output doesn't get cut off
[15-May-2009 12:49:18] <rmatte> any ideas?
[15-May-2009 12:51:01] <int> rmatte: you can try "terminal length 0" command before
[15-May-2009 12:53:32] <rmatte> ah sweet trick
[15-May-2009 12:53:36] <rmatte> thanks, didn't know about that
[15-May-2009 13:08:06] <rmatte> the script is called "intscript.xpt" by the way
[15-May-2009 13:08:08] <rmatte> lol
[15-May-2009 13:35:00] <cain22> anyone ever try to do a zenrestore and have it say rm: cannot remove directory `/home/zenoss/perf': Device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 13:36:33] <mrayzenoss> Sounds like something is still running when you try to do a zenrestore
[15-May-2009 13:36:41] <cain22> yeah, noticed
[15-May-2009 13:36:47] <cain22> zenoss restarted itself
[15-May-2009 13:38:08] <cain22> this upgrade is causing all kinds of problems
[15-May-2009 13:39:59] <cain22> zenoss is off...but i still get that error
[15-May-2009 13:43:15] <cain22> sweet
[15-May-2009 13:43:22] <cain22> now my hole thing is giving errors
[15-May-2009 13:43:31] <cain22> i am not a happy camper
[15-May-2009 13:45:16] <cain22> get a server connection error too on the web page
[15-May-2009 13:49:14] <cain22> anyone?
[15-May-2009 13:56:43] <rmatte> cain, how did you stop zenoss?
[15-May-2009 13:56:50] <cain22> zenoss stop
[15-May-2009 13:57:05] <rmatte> if you do ps -elf | grep zen
[15-May-2009 13:57:09] <rmatte> do you see anything?
[15-May-2009 13:57:30] <rmatte> also, do ps -elf | grep zopectl
[15-May-2009 13:57:33] <rmatte> also, do ps -elf | grep zeoctl
[15-May-2009 13:57:47] <cain22> i see crap tons of stuff for grep zen
[15-May-2009 13:58:02] <rmatte> is it all zenoss processes?
[15-May-2009 13:58:21] <cain22> couple things for zopectl
[15-May-2009 13:58:24] <rmatte> well, you have 2 choices, try to kill each process, or restart the server
[15-May-2009 13:58:32] <cain22> i've done that
[15-May-2009 13:58:53] <rmatte> remove the zenoss startup script from /etc/init.d before you reboot
[15-May-2009 13:58:54] <rmatte> then reboot
[15-May-2009 13:58:58] <cain22> er
[15-May-2009 13:58:58] <rmatte> then try the restore
[15-May-2009 13:59:00] <cain22> already did
[15-May-2009 13:59:01] <rmatte> then start zenoss
[15-May-2009 13:59:14] <rmatte> well obviously not if you have processes running
[15-May-2009 13:59:16] <cain22> as in, in process of rebooting
[15-May-2009 13:59:28] <cain22> before removing it from script
[15-May-2009 13:59:39] <rmatte> hunh?
[15-May-2009 14:00:23] <cain22> already started the rebooting process before you wrote 18:58 < rmatte> remove the zenoss startup script from /etc/init.d before you reboot
[15-May-2009 14:00:38] <rmatte> ah
[15-May-2009 14:00:43] <rmatte> well do it after you reboot
[15-May-2009 14:00:48] <rmatte> then reboot again
[15-May-2009 14:00:52] <cain22> lol
[15-May-2009 14:02:39] <cain22> i've never had so manything go wrong from an upgrade
[15-May-2009 14:02:52] <rmatte> meh, it happens
[15-May-2009 14:07:14] <cain22> just delete zenoss from there?
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[15-May-2009 14:22:38] <cain22> rmatte: ?
[15-May-2009 14:23:55] <cain22> nm
[15-May-2009 14:29:17] <cain22> same issue
[15-May-2009 14:29:28] <cain22> zenoss off, still can't restore
[15-May-2009 14:36:19] <cain22> mrayzenoss: umm....having some issues restoring zenoss....first time i've ever had to do it...and its saying i can't
[15-May-2009 14:40:49] <cluther> cain22: Just logged in, but I hear your installation is hosed.
[15-May-2009 14:43:41] <cain22> yes, yes it is
[15-May-2009 14:44:12] <cain22> can't do a restore
[15-May-2009 14:45:01] <cain22> multiple issues....but im hoping doing the restore, and then reupgrading to 2.4.1 will maybe fix it
[15-May-2009 14:45:03] <cluther> What's the error?
[15-May-2009 14:46:40] <cain22> while doing the restore i get the following error "rm: cannot remove directory `/home/zenoss/perf': Device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 14:46:46] <cain22> "
[15-May-2009 14:46:59] <cain22> however, zenoss is off
[15-May-2009 14:47:15] <cain22> so im not sure whats using it
[15-May-2009 14:47:52] <cluther> If you "ps ax|grep python" do you see any zenoss related processes?
[15-May-2009 14:48:15] <cain22> zenoss@ZENOSS-SRV backups]$ ps ax|grep python 2993 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-web-scgi /etc/raa/prod.cfg 2999 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-service
[15-May-2009 14:48:19] <cain22> 3030 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-web-scgi /etc/raa/prod.cfg
[15-May-2009 14:48:22] <cain22> 4004 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep python
[15-May-2009 14:48:30] <cain22> er, no, not that i see
[15-May-2009 14:49:41] <cluther> I don't suppose you have any other shells open that are in that directory?
[15-May-2009 14:50:29] <cluther> You can hack around it.. open up $ZENHOME/Products/ZenUtils/ZenRestore.py and search for "Copy perf files" and comment out the two lines below it.
[15-May-2009 14:51:13] <cain22> um, but i'll want the perf when i restore it
[15-May-2009 14:52:00] <cluther> You'll get it, this just skips the part where it blows away the current performance data.
[15-May-2009 14:52:00] <rocket> cain22: fuser /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:53:16] <cain22> /home/zenoss/perf:
[15-May-2009 14:53:24] <cain22> is whats displayed
[15-May-2009 14:53:26] <rocket> try fuser -c /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:53:27] <cain22> rocket
[15-May-2009 14:53:42] <cain22> nothing
[15-May-2009 14:54:43] <cain22> wait, should i fuser -k
[15-May-2009 14:54:48] <cain22> then do the restore?
[15-May-2009 14:55:07] <rocket> cain22: try that .. and then manually remove or move the perf directory
[15-May-2009 14:55:24] <rocket> cain22: try a mv /home/zenoss/perf /home/zenoss/perf.old
[15-May-2009 14:55:34] <rocket> mkdir /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> fuser -k -v /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> /home/zenoss/perf root kernel mount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> No automatic removal. Please use umount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:59:09] <rocket> cain22: what is the output of mount?
[15-May-2009 14:59:18] <cain22> cannot move it, device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 14:59:28] <rocket> cain22: you have another disk mounted at /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> [zenoss@ZENOSS-SRV ~]$ mount
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:46] <rocket> or partition ..
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/shm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/sdb1 on /home/zenoss/perf type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:48] <cain22> /dev/sda2 on /srv type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:50] <cain22> /dev/sda5 on /var type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:52] <cain22> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:55] <cain22> nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:59] <rocket> cain22: thats why you have issues ..
[15-May-2009 15:00:05] <rocket> umount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 15:00:31] <rocket> someone has created a separate mount point for your perf folder
[15-May-2009 15:01:08] <cain22> k
[15-May-2009 15:01:10] <cain22> now what?
[15-May-2009 15:01:13] <cain22> restore?
[15-May-2009 15:01:54] <cain22> also, is what happend to the mount now....will I have to remount it?
[15-May-2009 15:02:54] <rocket> cain22: when you are done yes ..
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[15-May-2009 15:03:17] <rocket> cain22: you might have issues with space if you are restoring the perf data there though
[15-May-2009 15:03:17] <cain22> just mount /home/zenoss/perf ?
[15-May-2009 15:03:25] <rocket> cain22: yes
[15-May-2009 15:06:36] <cain22> hmmm...now i get a server connection error
[15-May-2009 15:07:08] <cain22> also says my version is 2.4.1 still
[15-May-2009 15:08:25] <cain22> how do i go about going back to the "complete backup" that the admin guide has you do?
[15-May-2009 15:11:49] <cain22> well, to be continued, just glad no one is using it to much yet
[15-May-2009 16:18:36] <rmatte> Have a good weekend everyone
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[16-May-2009 00:09:39] <mydog2> run across zabbix....
[16-May-2009 01:17:15] <kelvinq> hi, i'm having a problem understanding "data points" in multigraph. can anyone help?
[16-May-2009 10:29:53] <bitmonk1> Bonjour! I want to monitor some services over the private network interface of hosts, are there any facilities within Zenoss designed to help with this?
[16-May-2009 10:33:13] <bitmonk1> esp related to func in default zenpacks for things like mysql / postgresql
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[17-May-2009 08:02:32] <kelvinq> hello. can anyone help me with multigraphs?
[17-May-2009 09:32:19] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
[17-May-2009 09:55:20] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
[17-May-2009 12:29:57] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
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[18-May-2009 05:57:43] <raddy> Anybody there??
[18-May-2009 10:08:42] <perr0> Good Day Matt, do you have the ticket # handy for the FreeBSD installation issues?
[18-May-2009 10:08:57] <perr0> I seemed to have misplaced it
[18-May-2009 10:10:13] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006 ?
[18-May-2009 10:10:58] <mrayzenoss> or this one? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
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[18-May-2009 11:10:46] <perr0> mrayzenoss: I thought you opened up a new ticket but if this one is it then ok. Cause I am unable to install the 2.4 on freebsd for two reasons so far gettext and freetype2.
[18-May-2009 11:13:53] <perr0> I replaced gettext-017 with the previous version and it doesn't break at that point anymore but then it breaks when it gets to freetype2 and when I build it by hand inside of /home/zenoss/zenoss-version-4/buid/freetype2 it breaks
[18-May-2009 11:14:23] <perr0> i've tried two versions thus far same result?
[18-May-2009 12:20:38] <mrayzenoss> sorry, I was out at lunch
[18-May-2009 12:21:03] <mrayzenoss> feel free to open another ticket, I just assumed that 4994 would roll-up any build changes needed
[18-May-2009 13:03:11] <ctaloi> hey all - just getting my feet wet with zenoss, i'm on 2.4.0 stack installed (centos) is there an "easy" or "correct" way to upgrade to 2.4.1? I came across the 1k+ snmp reply bug and would like to upgrade
[18-May-2009 13:03:56] <mrayzenoss> The Installation Guide chapter 8 covers upgrading the stack installer http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[18-May-2009 13:04:03] <mrayzenoss> it's not very complicated
[18-May-2009 13:04:55] <ctaloi> okay, thanks - reading that now
[18-May-2009 14:23:13] <chudler> cool. Zenpack contest time again.
[18-May-2009 14:23:22] <chudler> http://blog.zenoss.com/2009/05/17/summer-of-community-zenpacks-contest/ Any good ideas? :-p
[18-May-2009 14:25:32] <chudler> lots of people want netflow integration.. . hm well, I probably don't have enough spare time
[18-May-2009 14:26:48] <mrayzenoss> There is a Netflow in Enterprise, provided by Plixxer: http://www.zenoss.com/product/plixer-scrutinizer
[18-May-2009 14:27:05] <mrayzenoss> but I'm sure you could make a Community version
[18-May-2009 14:28:31] <chudler> mrayzenoss: ! never saw that, wow. Anyway, I don't intend to do community version of any enterprise. It would produce appearance of impropriety, since I am an enterprise user.
[18-May-2009 14:29:00] <mrayzenoss> ahh, didn't know that
[18-May-2009 14:29:19] <mrayzenoss> well, feel free to enter other ZenPacks
[18-May-2009 15:00:20] <perr0> are we able to make comments in the dev tickets?
[18-May-2009 15:01:45] <mrayzenoss> I think so
[18-May-2009 15:01:49] <mrayzenoss> zenoss/zenoss
[18-May-2009 15:10:47] <perr0> thanks
[18-May-2009 17:33:56] <mrayzenoss> ugh, just deleted 25 spam posts
[18-May-2009 20:37:48] <shood> Any zenoss'ers here know where/when the zenoss training begins tomorrow in annapolis?
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[19-May-2009 04:15:48] <eNeRGi> hey
[19-May-2009 04:16:13] <eNeRGi> does anyone here have a tip as to where I should start looking for example on how to implement a custom collector?
[19-May-2009 04:16:21] <eNeRGi> actually, I'm not even sure that I need a totally new collector
[19-May-2009 04:16:41] <eNeRGi> what I want/need to do is to correct the swap/memory readings from a machine that does not report there
[19-May-2009 04:17:29] <eNeRGi> I've created my own OIDs where I correctly report the values (SNMP is the only way to access the machine), and now I need zenoss to read these values from these custom OIDs instead of the regular one (that doesn't work)
[19-May-2009 04:17:37] <eNeRGi> any tips on where to start?
[19-May-2009 04:21:40] <eNeRGi> or to refine my question: is there anyway to start this without having to dig through the whole source just to understand what does what?
[19-May-2009 06:41:10] <eNeRGi> :/
[19-May-2009 08:56:54] <jb> anyone know where the rrd files for multi-graph reports are stored?
[19-May-2009 08:57:15] <chudler> I think they are generated on the fly. Not sure.
[19-May-2009 08:57:28] <jb> hmmm
[19-May-2009 08:57:35] <jb> okey
[19-May-2009 08:59:14] <cain22> hello all
[19-May-2009 09:00:03] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[19-May-2009 09:05:14] <rmatte> hmmm, I'm trying to change the Legend value for threshold graph points but they never get populated in to the graph
[19-May-2009 09:05:22] <rmatte> they just stay with the graphpoint ID
[19-May-2009 09:07:05] <rmatte> any ideas?
[19-May-2009 09:07:51] <rocket> morning matt
[19-May-2009 09:09:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: not sure it'll update the RRD graph
[19-May-2009 09:10:10] <mrayzenoss> without removing the old image
[19-May-2009 09:10:14] <mrayzenoss> RRD is kinda finicky
[19-May-2009 09:10:25] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 09:10:45] <rmatte> usually updates regular datapoints
[19-May-2009 09:10:49] <rmatte> just not thresholds
[19-May-2009 09:11:53] <rmatte> oh well
[19-May-2009 09:12:01] <cgibbons_> finicky... how polite
[19-May-2009 09:16:13] <cain22> anyone loose their perf data after the upgrade?
[19-May-2009 09:20:37] <chudler> I have a question for anyone :-)
[19-May-2009 09:20:44] <chudler> In a zenpack, if I do
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> target = getattr(sys.modules['Products.ZenEvents.zenactions'], 'ZenActions')
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> @monkeypatch(target)
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> def blah(self):
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> pass
[19-May-2009 09:21:14] <chudler> should it add "blah" to the class ZenActions? Also, why don't instances of ZenActions get that method?
[19-May-2009 09:21:20] <chudler> I thought python had meta-classes
[19-May-2009 09:23:03] <chudler> and this is part of __init__.py in the zenpack. It just doesn't seem to add the method to instances of ZenActions.
[19-May-2009 09:42:34] <rocket> chudler: did you reapply the zenpack?
[19-May-2009 09:42:55] <rocket> chudler: some of those items only seem to be updated when the zenpack is reinstalled
[19-May-2009 09:44:57] <chudler> rocket: thanks. I think I figured it out. zenactions.py runs in it's own interpreter! Extending it through any method will fail, except directly patching.
[19-May-2009 09:45:40] <chudler> However, it is possible to re-define actionTypes at runtime, which is what led me to believe I could define a new function as well.
[19-May-2009 09:46:59] <chudler> this is unfortunate, because I really wanted a zenpack that would define a new alert mechanism :*(
[19-May-2009 09:47:24] <rocket> chudler: what kind of alert mechanizm?
[19-May-2009 09:47:30] <rocket> err mechanism?
[19-May-2009 09:47:40] <chudler> xmpp
[19-May-2009 09:48:33] <huggie> Ah, heh. We're going to look at doing that at some point.
[19-May-2009 09:48:48] <huggie> Though I was hoping there would be a reasonable Email -> Jabber gateway we could just use.
[19-May-2009 09:49:38] <rocket> chudler: have you thought about running a jabber bot that just collects the email and forwards it on via a subscription or somesuch?
[19-May-2009 09:50:30] <chudler> I already have a jabber bot that does alerting and things, but I want to change to be more integrated with zenoss.
[19-May-2009 09:50:55] <chudler> I have tons of stuff duplicated from ZenEvent code, and it just sucks.
[19-May-2009 09:51:50] <chudler> making a new sendBlah() in ZenActions would hugely simplify things. I have patched it myself, but that won't work for a zenpack.
[19-May-2009 09:52:20] <rocket> chudler: If I have time I will take a look and see if it is possible from a zenpack ..
[19-May-2009 09:58:50] <rmatte> hmmm, I have an OID that I'm polling for CPU utilization on a Windows servers, the problem is that the OID is for the last minute of CPU utilization, when it reality I want to watch it over the last 5 minutes to avoid getting threshold alerts when the CPU happens to spike for a bit, any other OID that anyone knows of? Any way to set the thresholds to only trigger after being over threshold for 2 or more polling cycles?
[19-May-2009 10:09:32] <mrayzenoss> you mean like laloadint5?
[19-May-2009 10:09:40] <mrayzenoss> I guess that's load
[19-May-2009 10:19:03] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 10:29:43] <cain22> mrayzenoss: I receive the following error in zenhub "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/srv/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)")
[19-May-2009 10:29:54] <cain22> how do i go around fixing that?
[19-May-2009 10:30:11] <cain22> MySQL --status
[19-May-2009 10:30:20] <cain22> er..
[19-May-2009 10:46:42] <mrayzenoss> I assume mysql is running?
[19-May-2009 10:46:49] <mrayzenoss> and your creds are right?
[19-May-2009 10:56:04] <csgeek> hey guys... if I want to monitor a server using ZenOss, do I need to install anything on the server, like snmp, or a special software it needs to run?
[19-May-2009 10:56:58] <mrayzenoss> SNMP is probably the easiest
[19-May-2009 11:16:08] <pinball> or just monitor it via tcp checks
[19-May-2009 11:16:39] <mrayzenoss> true, ping and tcp checks require nothing installed. SSH is probably running on the server as well
[19-May-2009 11:29:29] <rmatte> the SNMP monitoring requires that scripts be installed on the system being monitored though, correct?
[19-May-2009 11:29:48] <rmatte> it's not intelligent enough to just pull from stuff like "df" "free", etc...?
[19-May-2009 11:30:47] <mrayzenoss> the snmpd package for your platform should handle all the basics
[19-May-2009 11:30:52] <mrayzenoss> you don't need to install anything else
[19-May-2009 11:31:01] <mrayzenoss> "apt-get install snmpd" works for debian/ubuntu
[19-May-2009 11:32:01] <pinball> or yum install net-snmp for linux
[19-May-2009 11:32:16] <pinball> yum search net-snmp ; as it could be called net-snmp-utils etc..
[19-May-2009 11:36:18] <rmatte> sorry, I meant to say the ssh monitoring
[19-May-2009 11:36:46] <mrayzenoss> ahh, ok. For 2.4, there is the new Linux Monitor ZenPack
[19-May-2009 11:36:49] <mrayzenoss> it's completely remote
[19-May-2009 11:37:04] <rmatte> core or enterprise?
[19-May-2009 11:37:10] <mrayzenoss> Core
[19-May-2009 11:37:13] <rmatte> perfect
[19-May-2009 11:37:14] <mrayzenoss> but it doesn't give you everything you'd get with SNMP
[19-May-2009 11:37:27] <rmatte> yeh, we'd just use a combination of both
[19-May-2009 11:39:49] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/linux-monitor
[19-May-2009 11:40:06] <mrayzenoss> Linux Monitor does Filesystems and CPU
[19-May-2009 11:40:50] <mrayzenoss> it was initially supposed to be just for demonstration, to go with the docs trac-zenpacks/wiki/SshZenpack
[19-May-2009 11:41:05] <mrayzenoss> it just needs a couple of things to round it out
[19-May-2009 11:41:25] <rmatte> nice
[19-May-2009 11:41:46] <rmatte> by the way, how good is Zenoss for AIX monitoring?
[19-May-2009 11:42:15] <mrayzenoss> so rocket has an SNMP ZenPack he's working on for Core
[19-May-2009 11:42:24] <mrayzenoss> Enterprise has an SSH-AIX ZenPack
[19-May-2009 11:42:33] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 11:42:39] <mrayzenoss> and I'd love to get an entry in the ZenPacks contest for AIX for the Community
[19-May-2009 11:42:47] <rmatte> for sure
[19-May-2009 11:43:20] <skarphace> During the build after running install.sh, I get some strange errors when Python is being built. I actually see this: Parser/tokenizer.c:768: undefined reference to `stdout'. Running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p3. Suggestions?
[19-May-2009 11:43:24] <mrayzenoss> between the Linux Monitor and the docs, someone with AIX access should be able to get similar functionality pretty easily
[19-May-2009 11:44:11] <rmatte> yeh, I'm expected to possibly setup monitoring on over 100 AIX devices at some point, should be fun
[19-May-2009 11:44:37] <mrayzenoss> well, you get double credit for SSH-based entries in the ZenPack contest
[19-May-2009 11:45:40] <mrayzenoss> skarphace: there are some known build issues with FreeBSD, perr0 might be able to help you out.
[19-May-2009 11:46:02] <rmatte> I'm actually focussing more on Windows monitoring at the moment, finally got Zenoss monitoring CPU and Memory usage smoothly via the default windows SNMP agent
[19-May-2009 11:46:06] <rmatte> it was crazy tricky to do
[19-May-2009 11:47:14] <rmatte> whoever wrote that SNMP agent should burn
[19-May-2009 11:47:15] <rmatte> lol
[19-May-2009 11:48:35] <mrayzenoss> yeah, the MS SNMP agent kinda sucks
[19-May-2009 11:49:04] <mrayzenoss> BTW, I heard Server 2008 has SSH access, so you could probably do an SSH ZenPack for it too
[19-May-2009 11:51:42] <rmatte> mrayzenoss: ok, fair enough, I'm just not understanding what you want the ticket opened for in terms of the interfaces, what is the actual problem?
[19-May-2009 11:52:13] <skarphace> mrayzenoss: Thanks, I'll wait to see if he shows up.
[19-May-2009 11:55:31] <perr0> I can
[19-May-2009 12:25:26] <chudler> for those following along on my custom ZenAction. The minimal amount of code I could duplicate from ZenActions and still make it work is http://pastie.org/482987
[19-May-2009 12:26:13] <chudler> this is meant to be its own daemon inside the ZenPack, in addition (or inside) the Xmpp daemon. It runs the same loop ZenActions does to find events to send.
[19-May-2009 12:27:01] <chudler> I will update the original question, posted by me, at http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=28504#28504
[19-May-2009 12:31:14] <perr0> I would like to see someone ssh to server 2008.... I don't think I would want to do it myself.
[19-May-2009 12:41:19] <csgeek> I'm trying to get ZenJMX working with ZenOSS, assuming it's installed properly, should I see an option somewhere in the web interface to configure the options?
[19-May-2009 12:42:19] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: take a look at Chapter 9 of the Extended Monitoring Guide: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[19-May-2009 12:44:13] <csgeek> thanks mrayzenoss
[19-May-2009 12:44:20] <venturaville> anyone had much luck with adding new relations to devices?
[19-May-2009 12:44:58] <venturaville> I've got a zenpack todo HP blade chassis following the vmware model, but I need another pair of eyes to take a look at it and see what I am missing
[19-May-2009 12:45:38] <venturaville> 2009-05-19 12:42:25 INFO zen.ZenHub: Worker reports WARNING:zen.ApplyDataMap:no relationship:bladeservers found on:bld8se38a
[19-May-2009 12:47:54] <venturaville> takers?
[19-May-2009 12:55:40] <mrayzenoss> venturaville: have you taken a look at http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/hpmon ?
[19-May-2009 12:55:48] <mrayzenoss> he's got some updates I need to get published
[19-May-2009 12:56:55] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, thanks a lot that pdf was extremely helpful.
[19-May-2009 12:57:32] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: yeah, it's a new doc that I'm trying to publicize more
[19-May-2009 12:59:13] <venturaville> hpmon doesn't seem to work with the blade chassis themselves
[19-May-2009 12:59:18] <venturaville> only with the actual OS on the blades
[19-May-2009 12:59:54] <venturaville> HP blade chassis != HP chassis
[19-May-2009 13:04:50] <mrayzenoss> ahh, ok
[19-May-2009 13:06:02] <venturaville> I've got an egg file if you've got time to take a look?
[19-May-2009 13:06:55] <mrayzenoss> I'm about to step out for a while, but email me and I'll see about getting it published and entered into the ZenPack contest
[19-May-2009 13:07:06] <mrayzenoss> I don't have access to any HP hardware, but I can smoketest it at least
[19-May-2009 13:07:11] <venturaville> it isn't ready yet.. trying to get it debugged
[19-May-2009 13:08:01] <mrayzenoss> ahh, I'd say post a thread on the zenpacks mailing list looking for testers
[19-May-2009 13:08:18] <mrayzenoss> I think chudler did the same for his Sentry CDU ZenPack
[19-May-2009 13:08:53] <venturaville> will do
[19-May-2009 13:23:41] <csgeek> Okay.. so, I'm following the guide, trying to add a Data Source and it just sort of.. hangs there
[19-May-2009 13:31:08] <venturaville> csgeek: I have seen that before. click out and redoing it seems to work though
[19-May-2009 13:31:27] <venturaville> I chalk it up to some odd ajax bug
[19-May-2009 13:41:16] <rmatte> are there any limits on what characters can be used in datapoints?
[19-May-2009 13:41:31] <rmatte> could I make a datapoint name called OTTAWA-OUTSIDE-G0/0 for instance?
[19-May-2009 13:44:29] <csgeek> venturaville, I'm looking at the logs, and it's looking for a directory that doesn't exist... I'm using a VM app from the website, and for some reason, it's refering back to /home/marc/conary/....
[19-May-2009 13:44:35] <csgeek> ie. http://pastie.org/483099
[19-May-2009 13:52:43] <venturaville> csgeek: I think those are just debug messages from where it was done
[19-May-2009 13:52:45] <rmatte> ok, so datapoint names don't like slashes, any way to get around that?
[19-May-2009 13:52:52] <rmatte> or do I have to replace slashes with something else?
[19-May-2009 13:52:56] <venturaville> it isn't erroring about them
[19-May-2009 13:53:15] <venturaville> csgeek: looks like it doesn't like something in the text of what you put in
[19-May-2009 13:53:45] <venturaville> rmatte: have to replace them....
[19-May-2009 13:54:17] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: do you accept attachments on zenoss-zenpacks?
[19-May-2009 14:21:25] <csgeek> the fact that somewhere it still refers to /home/marc makes me nerveous though.. /home/marc doesn't exist on my machine at all
[19-May-2009 14:35:45] <skarphace> I received the following when doing a build on FreeBSD 7.1: ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[19-May-2009 14:35:50] <skarphace> iconv is installed.
[19-May-2009 14:36:06] <skarphace> /usr/include/sys/iconv.h
[19-May-2009 14:36:54] <mrayzenoss> sorry, stepped out for a bit.
[19-May-2009 14:37:05] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: which version of the VMware image are you seeing that?
[19-May-2009 14:37:24] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: /home/marc was from a long time ago, the first pass at the VMware image
[19-May-2009 14:37:33] <mrayzenoss> I sure hope it isn't still around
[19-May-2009 14:38:45] <csgeek> I'm not sure actually.. I'm going to grab the latest and see if there's any change
[19-May-2009 15:05:44] <baffle> I have a problem with my ZODB; I have an old object in the database that is still referenced, wich makes Products/ZenRelations/ToManyRelationship.py explode.. How can I purge these old references from the ZODB? I get errors like "AttributeError: 'XscfDevice' object has no attribute '__of__'"
[19-May-2009 15:06:24] <mrayzenoss> baffle: have you tried reindex() in zendmd?
[19-May-2009 15:06:30] <rmatte> zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:06:33] <rmatte> reindex()
[19-May-2009 15:06:35] <rmatte> commit()
[19-May-2009 15:06:57] <rmatte> (as zenoss user of course)
[19-May-2009 15:07:14] <baffle> Oh, just reindex?
[19-May-2009 15:07:18] <rmatte> correct
[19-May-2009 15:07:26] <rmatte> then commit when it's done
[19-May-2009 15:07:31] <rmatte> to write the changes back to the DB
[19-May-2009 15:08:18] <baffle> Oh, new error.
[19-May-2009 15:08:42] <rmatte> ?
[19-May-2009 15:08:57] <baffle> http://paste2.org/p/215792
[19-May-2009 15:09:28] <baffle> What I really want to get rid of is the XscfDevice.
[19-May-2009 15:11:18] <rmatte> when did this issue start occuring
[19-May-2009 15:11:29] <rmatte> is XscfDevice a device that you had added previously?
[19-May-2009 15:11:40] <mrayzenoss> or a previous ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:11:56] <baffle> rmatte: The issues has been there for ages; I have an ugly workaround wich means patching ToManyRelationship.py to work around it. :-D
[19-May-2009 15:12:36] <baffle> It's an old ZenPack (from pre 2.X) that I never was able to purge correctly. I just migrated from 32bit -> 6t4bit + new server, and now I want to get rid of these ugly patches..
[19-May-2009 15:13:36] <rmatte> hmmmm
[19-May-2009 15:13:51] <rmatte> might be something for someone like Chet (cluther) to take a look at
[19-May-2009 15:13:57] <rmatte> he's good at debugging weird stuff like that
[19-May-2009 15:14:05] <mrayzenoss> I just tried to grab him but he's in a planning meeting
[19-May-2009 15:14:09] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 15:14:20] <mrayzenoss> he suggested an issue with an old ZenPack
[19-May-2009 15:14:28] <mrayzenoss> which baffle confirmed
[19-May-2009 15:14:34] <rmatte> yeh
[19-May-2009 15:15:20] <rmatte> there's probably some zendmd command which would be like delete blah from blah where blah equals XscfDevice
[19-May-2009 15:15:30] <baffle> Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well.
[19-May-2009 15:16:36] <baffle> I just have no idea how to crawl it.
[19-May-2009 15:17:22] <rmatte> have you checked to see if you can find it in the management interface?
[19-May-2009 15:17:32] <rmatte> http://<myzenoss>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage
[19-May-2009 15:18:17] <rmatte> hmmm, apparently this type of problem is specific to .zip zenpacks
[19-May-2009 15:19:51] <mrayzenoss> baffle: do you have the original ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:20:26] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Probably. 1 sec.
[19-May-2009 15:20:39] <mrayzenoss> zip zenpacks installed into the Products directory, you could probably manually remove it
[19-May-2009 15:20:50] <mrayzenoss> find what was installed and make sure it's removed
[19-May-2009 15:21:08] <rmatte> yeh, but didn't they also place some stuff in Zope?
[19-May-2009 15:21:19] <rmatte> I think there's something left over in Zope, which is causing the issue
[19-May-2009 15:21:21] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It is a clean install, and I think I've purged all the files..
[19-May-2009 15:21:32] <mrayzenoss> nuts, so it's in zodb
[19-May-2009 15:25:54] <rmatte> you could try:
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> >>> for p in dmd.packs():
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> ... print p.id # This line indented 2 spaces
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> ... # Just press Return key
[19-May-2009 15:26:01] <rmatte> which will list installed zenpacks
[19-May-2009 15:26:04] <rmatte> see if you see it there
[19-May-2009 15:29:15] <csgeek> so.. I updated to the latest VM, so running 2.4 .. and getting the same behavior and error. It's still refering to /home/marc
[19-May-2009 15:30:05] <mrayzenoss> I asked our QA manager about it, he said he thought there were still references to that around
[19-May-2009 15:30:15] <mrayzenoss> where are you seeing it again?
[19-May-2009 15:30:58] <baffle> mrayzenoss: http://open.eunet.no/Products_Xscf.tgz
[19-May-2009 15:31:17] <mrayzenoss> baffle: you trying to mess up my install too
[19-May-2009 15:32:00] <csgeek> so... brand new setup right, I install the ZenJMX module, so downloaded the eggfile, then I did a zenpack --install ZenJMX.egg
[19-May-2009 15:32:13] <mrayzenoss> most recent JMX?
[19-May-2009 15:32:15] <baffle> rmatte: No zenpacks.
[19-May-2009 15:32:19] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, yes
[19-May-2009 15:32:35] <csgeek> add device, add template, add date binding (freezes on data binding)
[19-May-2009 15:32:58] <csgeek> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/ZenPacks.zenoss.ZenJMX-3.1.6-py2.4.egg (this is the version I've used )
[19-May-2009 15:33:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[19-May-2009 15:33:58] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: could you post the stack trace again?
[19-May-2009 15:34:01] <csgeek> so.. once I try to add the data source, it gets into that weird state and tosses error refering to /home/marc and /home/zenoss
[19-May-2009 15:34:03] <csgeek> event log
[19-May-2009 15:34:07] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, sure.. coming up
[19-May-2009 15:34:44] <csgeek> http://pastie.org/483263
[19-May-2009 15:35:40] <baffle> rmatte: I have a few zenpacks installed, shouldn't they turn up as well? Or aren't they migrated with ZenBackup..
[19-May-2009 15:36:13] <mrayzenoss> ZenPacks don't get migrated yet, there's a ticket for that somewhere
[19-May-2009 15:36:29] <rmatte> baffle: you should certainly see something there
[19-May-2009 15:36:46] <rmatte> go to http://<myzenoss>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage and click on packs
[19-May-2009 15:36:50] <rmatte> is anything listed?
[19-May-2009 15:39:02] <csgeek> clicked on packs, shows ZenPack.zenoss.ZenJMS (package is broken)
[19-May-2009 15:39:18] <baffle> rmatte: Yeah, all my previously installed packs (minus Xscf) is there.
[19-May-2009 15:39:19] <csgeek> I click on the pack and I get... This object is broken because the unknown product that created it is no longer installed or is installed incorrectly. Please contact the product maintainer for assistance.
[19-May-2009 15:39:19] <csgeek> Note that the data associated with this product has not been lost, and will be accessible again if the product is reinstalled.
[19-May-2009 15:39:33] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: do a zenoss restart
[19-May-2009 15:39:46] <mrayzenoss> did you do that after installing the ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:39:57] <csgeek> I don't believe so..
[19-May-2009 15:40:21] <mrayzenoss> ugh, we need to find a way to force that to happen
[19-May-2009 15:40:49] <mrayzenoss> 9 times out of 10 you need to restart zope at least when installing a new ZenPack
[19-May-2009 15:41:05] <mrayzenoss> sometimes zenhub and zeo depending on what the ZenPack does
[19-May-2009 15:41:33] <rmatte> baffle: try:
[19-May-2009 15:41:34] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> >>> for p in dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> ... p.manager.obj = dmd.ZenPackManager # this line indented 1 space
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> ... # Just hit return here, nothing on this line
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> >>> commit()
[19-May-2009 15:41:36] <rmatte> >>> # ctl-d to exit zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:42:21] <csgeek> beautiful.. that fixed it
[19-May-2009 15:42:39] <mrayzenoss> sorry, that should have been the first thing I told you to try
[19-May-2009 15:42:53] <rmatte> baffle: you can also try:
[19-May-2009 15:42:55] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:42:55] <rmatte> >>> dmd.packs._delObect("XscfDevice")
[19-May-2009 15:44:24] <rmatte> hmmm, baffle...
[19-May-2009 15:44:33] <rmatte> navigate to $ZENHOME/Products
[19-May-2009 15:44:40] <rmatte> see if there is any sort of Xscf folder there?
[19-May-2009 15:44:58] <rmatte> because I just downloaded the pack and extracted it, all I see is XscfDevice.py so far
[19-May-2009 15:46:25] <rmatte> hmmm, let me examine some of these python files, might be able to find a solution...
[19-May-2009 15:47:50] <baffle> rmatte: There isn't in this new install, no.
[19-May-2009 15:48:36] <baffle> rmatte: It's not the complete pack I think, these are residue files from the old installation.
[19-May-2009 15:48:58] <rmatte> I think the problem relates back to this function that I found in one of the files:
[19-May-2009 15:48:59] <rmatte> InitializeClass(XscfDevice)
[19-May-2009 15:49:13] <rmatte> now I just need to find a way to remove that class using zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:54:04] <caseyh20> hey, perr0, did you get past the iconv.h issue?
[19-May-2009 15:56:05] <rmatte> ok, I have something else for your to try baffle
[19-May-2009 15:56:16] <baffle> rmatte: Sweet. :-)
[19-May-2009 15:56:20] <rmatte> go to http://<myzenoss>:8080/manage and login with the admin account
[19-May-2009 15:56:38] <rmatte> on the left you'll see "Products" expand that
[19-May-2009 15:57:07] <perr0> hi casey
[19-May-2009 15:57:21] <perr0> are you reffering to the gettext issue?
[19-May-2009 15:57:22] <rmatte> look for anything that says Xscf
[19-May-2009 15:57:27] <caseyh20> yes
[19-May-2009 15:57:53] <perr0> yep I downloaded the previous version of it remember gettext-016
[19-May-2009 15:58:00] <caseyh20> I haven't had a chance to mess with it the last few days
[19-May-2009 15:58:15] <baffle> rmatte: Hmm, can't really see Products..
[19-May-2009 15:58:19] <perr0> but then it failed on freetype2
[19-May-2009 15:58:27] <baffle> Ah, under Control Panel.
[19-May-2009 15:58:38] <rmatte> yes
[19-May-2009 15:58:43] <rmatte> click on Products
[19-May-2009 15:58:50] <rmatte> then in the right pane looks for Xscf
[19-May-2009 15:58:51] <baffle> Yes, found Xscf there.
[19-May-2009 15:59:03] <rmatte> perfect, put a checkmark next to it, then scroll down and click Delete
[19-May-2009 15:59:05] <perr0> I tried building freetype2 manually and it fails. Something is wrong with the code. I don't know. I know I am not the only user with this problem.
[19-May-2009 15:59:08] <rmatte> after that, try a reindex
[19-May-2009 16:00:06] <caseyh20> right, how exactly did you get it past the gettext issue? installed the old version and then ran the zenoss installer?
[19-May-2009 16:00:15] <perr0> ya
[19-May-2009 16:00:23] <rmatte> reindex() then commit()
[19-May-2009 16:00:26] <perr0> make sure to comment out the patch
[19-May-2009 16:00:30] <rmatte> (provided it runs through)
[19-May-2009 16:00:37] <caseyh20> in rrddeps.sh?
[19-May-2009 16:00:39] <perr0> I just backed them up to a seperate folder
[19-May-2009 16:00:42] <perr0> ya
[19-May-2009 16:00:47] <caseyh20> k
[19-May-2009 16:00:51] <caseyh20> ill give it a try now
[19-May-2009 16:01:37] <perr0> I've talked to a couple of other ppl who say they have it installed but they had someone else do it at their job
[19-May-2009 16:01:46] <baffle> rmatte: Hmm, nope, same error as before..
[19-May-2009 16:02:07] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 16:02:12] <rmatte> try restarting Zenoss
[19-May-2009 16:02:16] <rmatte> then try the reindex again
[19-May-2009 16:02:28] <caseyh20> right
[19-May-2009 16:02:38] <caseyh20> I am going to try to get it working today
[19-May-2009 16:02:44] <perr0> well I have to get back to work (really busy) ping if you get past freetype2
[19-May-2009 16:02:50] <caseyh20> will do
[19-May-2009 16:05:38] <baffle> rmatte: http://paste2.org/p/215868 <- Looks the same.
[19-May-2009 16:07:20] <rmatte> ok, so at least we know the product info in the database has been removed now...
[19-May-2009 16:11:21] <rmatte> yeh, this is definitely a Chet Luther type issue at this point, I can't figure it out
[19-May-2009 16:13:00] <baffle> rmatte: Thanks for your help anyway. Not sure if I want to apply my ugly kludgy patches or wait till he comes around. :-) At this point a lot of service checks are failing..
[19-May-2009 16:13:38] <rmatte> he might not be around until tomorrow
[19-May-2009 16:14:19] <baffle> Hmm, maybe I'll temporarily apply the patches..
[19-May-2009 16:14:30] <rmatte> might be an idea
[19-May-2009 16:23:27] <baffle> rmatte: The ugly kludges I have to add: http://paste2.org/p/215889
[19-May-2009 16:23:36] <baffle> rmatte: Sorry for the norwegian. :-)
[19-May-2009 16:31:40] <baffle> Ugh, wich doesn't seem to apply cleanly anymore..
[19-May-2009 16:43:56] <sergeymasushko> if zencommand pooling devices every 60 seconds... how often RRD updates?
[19-May-2009 16:45:02] <mrayzenoss> I believe that's a function of the RRDCreate setting
[19-May-2009 16:45:52] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: Collectors->localhost->Edit "Default RRD Create Command"
[19-May-2009 16:46:08] <sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: thanks...
[19-May-2009 16:46:17] <mrayzenoss> but I'm not sure changes go into effect unless you wipe the RRD files
[19-May-2009 16:46:28] <mrayzenoss> I may be wrong, but that's where the setting is
[19-May-2009 16:48:31] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: actually, it looks like you can set that per/datasource
[19-May-2009 16:49:06] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.4.0/ch06s02.html#d4e2424
[19-May-2009 17:56:54] <sergeymasushko> does Cisco MIBs zenpack better then installing a separate mib file?
[19-May-2009 18:34:13] <rmatte> The Cisco Mibs pack installs all publicly available Cisco Mibs, but if you only need a specific Mib then you could try installing it by hand
[19-May-2009 18:34:27] <rmatte> A lot of the Cisco Mibs are dependant on other Cisco Mibs though
[19-May-2009 18:34:33] <rmatte> I had a heck of a time making that pack
[19-May-2009 18:35:04] <rmatte> had to modify a few of the Mibs so that they would load
[19-May-2009 18:37:07] <sergeymasushko> ok. if I install the zenpack will the zenoss correctly model/monitor interfaces...
[19-May-2009 18:37:30] <rmatte> the Cisco Mibs are only for translating incoming traps, they don't assist with modelling
[19-May-2009 18:37:54] <rmatte> though I'm monitoring a ton of Cisco devices and Zenoss' modelling it sufficient for picking pretty much everything up
[19-May-2009 18:44:46] <baffle> rmatte: Any idea how I could patch up my ToManyRelationship.py so that ZenOss 2.4 works?
[19-May-2009 18:44:54] <baffle> (With my bug..)
[19-May-2009 18:45:02] <sergeymasushko> heh.. then why I get a lot of events e.g. Error reading value for "Voice Encapsulation (POTS) Peer: 103" on cisco01.litespan.net (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.209 is bad)
[19-May-2009 18:46:05] <baffle> rmatte: I once tried modelling one of my border routers, that was fun. Somehow ZenOss didn't like getting a full BGP table.. :-)
[19-May-2009 18:47:18] <rmatte> yeh, I've had that issue before too, had to turn off the route discovery for a few devices
[19-May-2009 18:47:34] <rmatte> or crank up the timeouts to some insane value when modelling and then enable only local routes
[19-May-2009 18:48:07] <baffle> rmatte: I first did #1 then #2 later I think.
[19-May-2009 18:48:08] <rmatte> you're getting those events for the POTS interfaces because you probably haven't created any specific interface templates for them
[19-May-2009 18:48:59] <rmatte> you need to click on that interface on that device, check the interface type, then copy the ethernetCsmacd template, then rename it to the exact type shows on that interface (case sensitive)
[19-May-2009 18:49:07] <rmatte> then delete or replace the values that it's complaining about
[19-May-2009 18:49:11] <rmatte> then problem solved
[19-May-2009 18:49:18] <rmatte> either that, or don't monitor those interfaces
[19-May-2009 18:49:36] <sergeymasushko> I need to monitor them...
[19-May-2009 18:49:58] <sergeymasushko> heh... thanks for the point.
[19-May-2009 18:50:11] <rmatte> then create custom templates, I had to create a custom template for each interface type
[19-May-2009 18:50:14] <rmatte> I have like 20 of them lol
[19-May-2009 18:53:19] <baffle> rmatte: Do you work for ZenOss or are you just very into it?
[19-May-2009 18:53:40] <rmatte> I'm just very in to it
[19-May-2009 18:53:48] <rmatte> I'm the Zenoss admin at my company
[19-May-2009 18:54:12] <rmatte> been using it heavily for 6 months now, learned all sorts of neat little tricks
[19-May-2009 18:54:22] <rmatte> and I still have tons to learn
[19-May-2009 18:54:34] <caseyh20> thats cool
[19-May-2009 18:54:57] <caseyh20> is zenoss administration all you do? or do you have other duties as well?
[19-May-2009 18:55:29] <rmatte> it's like 90% of what I do, and since I'm a good scripter I also write up scripts on demand for the engineers here
[19-May-2009 18:55:44] <caseyh20> nice
[19-May-2009 18:56:06] <rmatte> for instance, one of the engineers needed a script that logs in, performs a "sh ip int brie | inc up up" on like 300 Cisco routers, so I wrote it up and sent him the report text file when I was done running it
[19-May-2009 18:56:58] <rmatte> right now I just finished writing a custom script for use with Zenoss which collects IP SLA statistics from one of our client's core routers via SNMP
[19-May-2009 18:57:04] <rmatte> now I'm integrating it with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 18:57:17] <caseyh20> nice
[19-May-2009 18:57:20] <sergeymasushko> cool
[19-May-2009 18:57:33] <caseyh20> I am still trying to upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0
[19-May-2009 18:57:37] <caseyh20> =(
[19-May-2009 18:57:41] <rmatte> it's basically just going to graph packet loss and jitters stats that are collected by the core router for all of the spoke routers
[19-May-2009 18:57:59] <rmatte> well, upgrade to 2.4.1 if anything
[19-May-2009 18:58:03] <rmatte> has a couple of bug fixes
[19-May-2009 18:58:21] <baffle> Wheee!
[19-May-2009 18:58:30] <rmatte> all our boxes are still running 2.3.3, I need time to play with 2.4.1 on my lab box before I upgrade any of our production systems
[19-May-2009 18:58:30] <baffle> rmatte: Yes, I run 2.4.1 actually.
[19-May-2009 18:59:11] <baffle> rmatte: I was running 2.3.3, but the server running it was woefully out of resources.. Big gaps in graphs, would error out all the time, zenmodeller was disabled because it made the machine swap.. Etc..
[19-May-2009 18:59:23] <caseyh20> no bueno
[19-May-2009 18:59:31] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 18:59:40] <baffle> rmatte: So I migrated to 2.4.1 on a new server.. And now it just worked too! No errors yet at least. :-) Seems my lame python hacks worked..
[19-May-2009 18:59:43] <rmatte> our boxes are running relatively smoothly
[19-May-2009 18:59:47] <caseyh20> yeah, the 2.4x source doesn't like to compile on FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 18:59:58] <rmatte> especially the box that monitors our biggest client, after all the tweaking I've done it's running like a dream
[19-May-2009 19:00:03] <baffle> Oh, there ZenPing died.
[19-May-2009 19:00:20] <rmatte> We're running Ubuntu Server, works great with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 19:00:28] <rmatte> might want to look at running that over FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:01:10] <rmatte> FreeBSD is nice, but Linux has better overall support, one of the reasons why I made the switch from FreeBSD to Linux after using FreeBSD for 5 years
[19-May-2009 19:01:44] <caseyh20> right, but we use jails, it is actually one machine, might try ubuntu if I can get a raid card that is supported by ESXi
[19-May-2009 19:02:12] <rmatte> ah, yeh FreeBSD's jail feature is very nice, but I believe you can setup something comparable in Linux, never tried
[19-May-2009 19:02:34] <rmatte> we just run ESX on our blade servers then run virtual Ubuntu servers off of that
[19-May-2009 19:02:37] <rmatte> easier to manage
[19-May-2009 19:02:52] <baffle> rmatte: I switched from FreeBSD to Linux around 4.6-4.8 I think.. Last I ran was 5.X release on an aging Sun Enterprise 450..
[19-May-2009 19:03:15] <rmatte> last I ran was like 6.1 I think
[19-May-2009 19:03:20] <rmatte> can't remember
[19-May-2009 19:03:28] <caseyh20> we are running 7.2
[19-May-2009 19:03:33] <sergeymasushko> I ran on a freeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:03:45] <rmatte> I used to use FreeBSD on my desktop computer at home
[19-May-2009 19:03:51] <baffle> caseyh20: Personally I'm getting really tired of ESXi now; We have a few customers running it.. Either go ESX, or run KVM/XEN. (I prefer the latter..)
[19-May-2009 19:04:27] <rmatte> we're running ESXi
[19-May-2009 19:04:33] <sergeymasushko> oh... FreeBSD on a desctop it's a religion
[19-May-2009 19:04:38] <caseyh20> We want to try ESXi and if we like it upgrade to ESX and vSphere 4. I don't like KVM/XEN
[19-May-2009 19:05:06] <caseyh20> I use Mac, the FreeBSD desktop distros are too unstable for my liking
[19-May-2009 19:05:09] <rmatte> yeh, I used to be super heavy in to FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:05:26] <rmatte> I'd setup my desktop from the ground up using just base FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:05:32] <rmatte> I never used any of the desktop distros
[19-May-2009 19:05:40] <caseyh20> yeah, I have done that before
[19-May-2009 19:05:45] <rmatte> took like a week of compiling lol
[19-May-2009 19:05:47] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: +1
[19-May-2009 19:05:49] <rmatte> but it was nice once it was done
[19-May-2009 19:05:49] <caseyh20> lol
[19-May-2009 19:06:27] <sergeymasushko> my previous desctop OS was gentoo that's terrible!
[19-May-2009 19:06:41] <rmatte> yeh, gentoo was my first desktop linux OS
[19-May-2009 19:06:59] <baffle> Compiling KDE was the worst.
[19-May-2009 19:07:14] <rmatte> went from FreeBSD to Gentoo, then I finally migrated my FreeBSD server over to Gentoo as well, then I got sick of using Gentoo on my desktop so I switched to Ubuntu
[19-May-2009 19:07:19] <baffle> You really *had* to set up distcc.
[19-May-2009 19:07:21] <rmatte> I still have Gentoo running on my server
[19-May-2009 19:07:25] <rmatte> Linux dark 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 #4 SMP Sat Oct 18 23:22:09 EDT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[19-May-2009 19:07:30] <rmatte> 19:46:01 up 212 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[19-May-2009 19:07:37] <rmatte> losing my uptime soon, moving to a new apartment
[19-May-2009 19:08:02] <sergeymasushko> heh
[19-May-2009 19:08:11] <baffle> rmatte: I lost my "uptime server" 1/2 year ago.. I had passed 2100 days.
[19-May-2009 19:08:14] <rmatte> yeh, I never really used distcc, just bit my tongue and waiting out the compile
[19-May-2009 19:08:22] <rmatte> lol, crazy
[19-May-2009 19:08:31] <rmatte> this is a server sitting in my apartment though
[19-May-2009 19:08:34] <rmatte> not a work server
[19-May-2009 19:08:59] <rmatte> it's hooked up to a little APC UPS unit
[19-May-2009 19:09:11] <rmatte> but any power outage lasting more than 15 mins and it's dead
[19-May-2009 19:09:26] <rmatte> the last outage was due to an electrical fire
[19-May-2009 19:09:37] <rmatte> I'd be at almost a year uptime had that not happened
[19-May-2009 19:10:13] <baffle> rmatte: We had a fire in one of our datacenters 1/2 year ago.. That was fun..
[19-May-2009 19:11:20] <baffle> rmatte: The main big UPS (wich handled A+B power) melted. Design fault, it was only 9 months old. Happy days!
[19-May-2009 19:11:45] * baffle was very confused when sitting at home and everything except 1 of the core switches was up (48V)
[19-May-2009 19:11:52] <rmatte> yikes
[19-May-2009 19:11:55] <baffle> Err, reverse that.
[19-May-2009 19:12:04] <baffle> Everything was down, except..
[19-May-2009 19:12:09] <rmatte> hehe
[19-May-2009 19:12:10] <sergeymasushko> we have an interesting situation need to reboot one server but we can't because "dongle key" is hung and new one we are still not received.
[19-May-2009 19:12:19] <rmatte> eugh, I have to add 64 datapoints by hand for this script
[19-May-2009 19:13:17] <baffle> rmatte: Have you looked at making your own modeller-scripts yet? We haven't been successful yet, haven't really seen any good examples..
[19-May-2009 19:13:35] <baffle> Hmm, I really should release the SNMP-agent we made soon..
[19-May-2009 19:14:01] <rmatte> nah, haven't gotten in to modeller scripts yet
[19-May-2009 19:14:03] <baffle> (Modular python agent, does bind/apache/memcached etc..
[19-May-2009 19:14:07] <rmatte> probably will at some point
[19-May-2009 19:14:20] <rmatte> just been making command scripts for performance monitoring, getting good at it
[19-May-2009 19:14:53] <rmatte> the command scripts are written in bash though since that's what I'm best at
[19-May-2009 19:15:03] <rmatte> I'm getting a bit better at python, still lots to learn though
[19-May-2009 19:16:50] <baffle> Hmm, would be cool if the SNMP routemap used in Linux actually supported all the separate routing tables.. And if ZenOss actually supported the concept of separate routing tables..
[19-May-2009 19:17:48] <rmatte> yeh, there are a lot of "would be nice" cases with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 19:17:59] <rmatte> I'm just waiting for them to make templates for flexible
[19-May-2009 19:18:06] <rmatte> more flexible*
[19-May-2009 19:18:07] <rmatte> rather
[19-May-2009 19:21:01] <sergeymasushko> hmmm.
[19-May-2009 19:21:10] <sergeymasushko> is it critical?
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> 2009-05-19T20:16:24 ERROR RenderServer Failed to generate a graph
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.py", line 190, in render
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> rrdtool.graph(*gopts)
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> error
[19-May-2009 19:22:33] <baffle> sergeymasushko: RRD missing? RRD wrong?
[19-May-2009 19:23:01] <sergeymasushko> dunno... just observer logs...
[19-May-2009 19:24:07] <rmatte> weird, no idea
[19-May-2009 19:27:00] <rmatte> well, time for a smoke, brb
[19-May-2009 19:47:38] <sergeymasushko> 2009-05-19T00:41:10 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2e, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /VirtualHostBase/https/zenoss.mycompany.net:443/VirtualHostRoot/zport/RenderServer/render (2068 conflicts, of which 6 were unresolved, since startup at Thu May 14 11:28:04 2009)
[19-May-2009 19:47:39] <sergeymasushko> what does it mean?
[19-May-2009 20:01:10] <perr0> caseyh20: what up with zenoss?
[19-May-2009 20:01:58] <perr0> I'll hit you up later code push is done here.
[19-May-2009 20:21:12] <rmatte> sergeymasushko: you might have to go in to zendmd and do a reindex() and a commit()
[19-May-2009 20:26:24] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: wow. look at this... http://pastebin.com/d7e87168c
[19-May-2009 20:28:27] <rmatte> run dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd
[19-May-2009 20:28:43] <rmatte> then do reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:28:46] <rmatte> and commit()
[19-May-2009 20:32:08] <sergeymasushko> hm... zendmd is so slow... still waiting reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:34:24] <rmatte> reindex can take a while
[19-May-2009 20:34:34] <rmatte> depending on how many devices/records you have
[19-May-2009 20:35:09] <sergeymasushko> ok. now I should run dmd.Devices.reIndex() or at first commit()
[19-May-2009 20:45:26] <rmatte> dmd.Devices.reIndex() first
[19-May-2009 20:45:33] <rmatte> then reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:45:36] <rmatte> then commit()
[19-May-2009 20:45:49] <rmatte> then restart zenoss and check for errors
[19-May-2009 20:49:39] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: btw. dmd.Devices.reIndex() or dmd.Devices.reindex() ??
[19-May-2009 20:49:55] <rmatte> dmd.Devices.reIndex() I believe
[19-May-2009 20:50:02] <rmatte> but it might be dmd.Devices.reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:50:09] <rmatte> haven't done it in a while
[19-May-2009 20:50:12] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 21:11:44] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: the errors when run zendmd is still there...
[19-May-2009 21:15:08] <rmatte> odd
[19-May-2009 21:15:23] <rmatte> that's something you'll have to post on the forums about or ask cluther about
[19-May-2009 21:15:28] <rmatte> I'm out of ideas
[19-May-2009 21:15:46] <rmatte> and I'm also out of here, been here for 13 hours, time to go... to a club
[19-May-2009 21:15:47] <rmatte> lol
[19-May-2009 21:15:53] <rmatte> ttyl
[19-May-2009 21:15:57] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 21:16:06] <sergeymasushko> have a nice party
[19-May-2009 21:16:13] <rmatte> oh, you know it
[19-May-2009 21:16:31] <sergeymasushko> btw. thanks a lot for all your help
[19-May-2009 21:16:36] <rmatte> no problem
[19-May-2009 21:16:42] <rmatte> sorry it didn't fix the issue
[19-May-2009 21:17:28] <sergeymasushko> I'll fight with it a bit more... I'll try to reinstall LDAP... probably it helps...
[19-May-2009 21:42:02] <caseyh20> how is it going everyone?
[19-May-2009 22:02:57] <sergeymasushko> caseyh20: are you using freebsd installation
[19-May-2009 22:04:49] <caseyh20> yes
[19-May-2009 22:05:04] <caseyh20> I have actually made some progress today
[19-May-2009 22:05:18] <caseyh20> its all the gnu crap that fails lol
[19-May-2009 22:05:59] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 22:06:23] <sergeymasushko> have you integrated LDAP with the zenoss?
[19-May-2009 22:07:08] <caseyh20> lol, no, but once I get it running I plan on integrating it with Windows AD
[19-May-2009 22:07:33] <caseyh20> I have big plans for Zenoss once I get it installed lol
[19-May-2009 22:07:51] <sergeymasushko> good luck
[19-May-2009 22:08:01] <caseyh20> thanks
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[20-May-2009 01:42:01] <beni-> hi guys... is there a list of minimum required hardware to install zenoss? i have a geode lx800 with 256MB memory and 2 GB free disk space... will that be enough to monitor 8-10 hosts?
[20-May-2009 01:46:27] <baffle> beni-: I don't think so.. It is quite memory hungry.
[20-May-2009 01:47:04] <beni-> baffle: hmm damn
[20-May-2009 02:38:42] <rhettlap> yeah. i had 2.4 running in a domU w/ 1vcpu and 512mb memory (on an older 2650 dell so nothing super fast) and i kept having issues w/ memory
[20-May-2009 02:39:36] <beni-> baffle: you were right... it consumes 100% of my memory, and my load average is at the moment 4.5, 3.6, 2.0 with only one host and only one logged in user
[20-May-2009 02:40:10] <rhettlap> oh wow
[20-May-2009 02:40:17] <rhettlap> that is not good for business
[20-May-2009 02:59:03] <beni-> nope... i wanted to set up a monitoring onto my new alix 2d3 debian server (<http://www.alix-board.de/produkte/alix2d3.html>) to monitor my webspace and private webserver (e.g. homeserver, backupserver). but zenoss is definitely not working on a LX800 :-(...
[20-May-2009 03:01:04] <beni-> brb in 15mins... would like to discuss if there are any ideas how to make zenoss working on low-power / low-ram devices
[20-May-2009 03:23:20] <beni-> re
[20-May-2009 03:23:36] <beni-> so, is there any way to get a light-weight zenoss for low-ram devices?
[20-May-2009 04:33:02] <baffle> beni-: I think you should probably go for another product; ZenOss consumes lots of memory to *work*, but not that much for new devices.. Check out something based on Nagios, or Zabbix or something combined with Munin..
[20-May-2009 04:33:46] <beni-> baffle: hm ok, yeah I already use nagios at work (actually groundwork, which is based on nagios).. i'll use that one, but zenoss looks nicer
[20-May-2009 04:35:07] <ToM-> Anyone know why collector plugins fail after 2.4 upgrade?
[20-May-2009 04:35:15] <ToM-> ImportError: No module named /data00/zenoss2.4/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins.zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap
[20-May-2009 04:35:24] <ToM-> I'm getting that to all plugins
[20-May-2009 04:43:35] <baffle> beni-: Yes, I agree, ZenOss is nice.. It's quite complicated, tho'.
[20-May-2009 04:44:34] <ToM-> baffle: and has some strange decisions like why doesn't the zensnmpperf work with parallel threads
[20-May-2009 04:44:55] <baffle> ToM-: It doesn't?
[20-May-2009 04:45:23] <ToM-> nope
[20-May-2009 04:45:27] <baffle> ToM-: I just upgraded the server, wich was very underpowered (3G ram), so multiple anything didn't really work.
[20-May-2009 04:45:59] <ToM-> yes but if you have like 5 machines back to back that have snmp down
[20-May-2009 04:46:08] <ToM-> the zenperfsnmp will just wait for them to time out
[20-May-2009 04:46:28] <ToM-> and then it dies because it has run longer than it should (5 minutes)
[20-May-2009 04:47:46] <ToM-> so having even 2 threads that are tasked with timout seperately would hugely speed up the process of snmp polling
[20-May-2009 04:48:14] <beni-> ok... moving on to nagios ;-) cu
[20-May-2009 04:52:27] <ToM-> anyhow..
[20-May-2009 04:52:44] <ToM-> my problem is just too persistant and can't figure why the heck it tries to load the modules with those names
[20-May-2009 04:53:59] <baffle> ToM-: Modelling is also very fun; I have lots of machines behind different firewalls, some of these doesn't send a tcp reset when a port is blocked.. Scanning takes forever, and if not the timeout is set high, it fails.
[20-May-2009 09:14:42] <antnoobzenlover> good afternoon everybody
[20-May-2009 09:17:16] <antnoobzenlover> i am using the zenoss 2.4 vitural appliance and its been running great now for a couple of months. follwing a recent powercut the server came back online however i can no longer get any performance stats or graphs
[20-May-2009 09:18:05] <antnoobzenlover> when i manually try to add a device i see the following error zensocket must be run as root or setuid
[20-May-2009 09:18:57] <antnoobzenlover> i have checked the file in /home/zenoss/bin and the zensocket fiule has the setuid flag
[20-May-2009 09:19:08] <chudler> it should also be owned by root.
[20-May-2009 09:19:19] <antnoobzenlover> its running in the virtual app
[20-May-2009 09:19:29] <chudler> uhm, IIRC. I don't even have a VM version of zenoss, however.
[20-May-2009 09:19:37] <antnoobzenlover> so everthing is un der /home/zenoss and all permissions are zenoss.zenoss
[20-May-2009 09:19:59] <chudler> there's at least one place that root must be owner, to satisfy some requirement.
[20-May-2009 09:20:26] <antnoobzenlover> i tried with the permissions of root.zenoss and the setuid flag set wit no luck
[20-May-2009 09:20:32] <antnoobzenlover> *with
[20-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> as a matter of fact, on all my installs bin/zensocket is owned by root. I once changed it to zenoss:zenoss and I got the exact same error you are getting :-)
[20-May-2009 09:20:55] <antnoobzenlover> sadly the ups on that machine gave up before a safe shutdown could happen
[20-May-2009 09:21:24] <antnoobzenlover> ill set it to root.root and see hang on a sec
[20-May-2009 09:23:53] <robos> on 4 of our linux servers zenoss shows all the file systems on 2 of the servers, the other 2 it does not. I don't notice an apparent configuration difference. Can anyone think of some reasons why it's different?
[20-May-2009 09:24:30] <antnoobzenlover> ok i changed the owner to root.root and tried zenoss --ping
[20-May-2009 09:24:40] <antnoobzenlover> now it says unable to find a user to become !
[20-May-2009 09:24:41] <antnoobzenlover> lol
[20-May-2009 09:25:08] <antnoobzenlover> think im gonna install another copy in another vm and look at defaults,
[20-May-2009 09:25:24] <simprix> Can I monitor processes with the zenoss client ?
[20-May-2009 09:25:26] <antnoobzenlover> i think the locations and permissions must be different on the vm images to a stock install
[20-May-2009 09:28:08] <antnoobzenlover> if i was to move from this premade image to an install of my own could i easily transfer the database into the new version ?
[20-May-2009 09:28:42] <chudler> no idea. I have transferred Data.fs between servers without problem. Can't speak for VM image, nor between version numbers.
[20-May-2009 09:30:49] <antnoobzenlover> 2.4 - 2.4 same version numbers
[20-May-2009 09:30:59] <antnoobzenlover> just wont be the appliance image
[20-May-2009 09:31:20] <antnoobzenlover> i only reaally put the appliance in to test the water so to speak
[20-May-2009 09:31:36] <antnoobzenlover> but i really like zenoss think its time to move it into production
[20-May-2009 09:38:42] <rocket> antnoobzenlover: just follow the backup and restore options I would believe
[20-May-2009 09:39:31] <antnoobzenlover> thanks for you help, ill admit i didnt really look that option up on the site, i was hoping i could fix the vmware issue easily
[20-May-2009 09:40:08] <caseyh20> hows it going perr0?
[20-May-2009 09:40:52] <perr0> caseyh20: good thank you and you?
[20-May-2009 09:43:02] <caseyh20> im doing pretty good, I didn't leave the office till around 9 last night, I found a cleaner fix for the autotext problem and I solved the freetype problem but know I have an issue with glib lol
[20-May-2009 09:43:58] <perr0> how did you get around the freetype2 problem and what cleaner fix did you find for gettext?
[20-May-2009 09:47:05] <caseyh20> well, I downloaded the gnu libiconv-1.13.tar.gz and put it in the rrddep dir with the rest of the source tars and then I added an entry for it at the top of the rrddep.sh script...
[20-May-2009 09:48:09] <caseyh20> autotext then compiles to problem
[20-May-2009 09:48:58] <caseyh20> when the rrddep.sh installs libiconv use /usr/local/zenoss as the prefix thus installing all the libs where autotext looks when installing
[20-May-2009 09:50:10] <perr0> Matt has an open ticket I don't know if you want to make a note
[20-May-2009 09:50:29] <perr0> I would love to add notes but I don
[20-May-2009 09:50:58] <perr0> t have the time right now. It doesn't seem they have been checking their builds before they are rolled out
[20-May-2009 09:51:17] <caseyh20> right, do you have the ticket number by any chance?
[20-May-2009 09:51:56] <perr0> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006
[20-May-2009 09:52:00] <perr0> zenoss/zenoss
[20-May-2009 09:55:28] <perr0> caseyh20: what is happening with glib?
[20-May-2009 09:59:02] <simprix> can I monitor a process like mongrel with the zenoss client via ssh or do I have to use snmp ?
[20-May-2009 10:08:27] <rmatte> Does anyone know of a way to generate multiple data points in Zenoss using a script?
[20-May-2009 10:08:38] <rmatte> I have 4 data sources and need to create 64 data points under each
[20-May-2009 10:08:47] <rmatte> which will take forever if I don't find some way to automate this
[20-May-2009 10:13:04] <caseyh20> perr0: this is what I run into with glib http://pastebin.com/m2287012d
[20-May-2009 10:13:15] <robos> hi: 2 of our linux servers aren't monitoring the file systems. If you go into the device then os tab it doesn't show the mounted file systems. While 2 of the other linux boxes do. Any ideas why? This is a new setup.
[20-May-2009 10:13:39] <robos> they are running slighly different kernel versions.. think that has something to do with it?
[20-May-2009 10:13:58] <perr0> same snmp configurations?
[20-May-2009 10:14:05] <robos> yup, same snmp config
[20-May-2009 10:14:52] <robos> i did a diff on /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf between the servers and everything is the same
[20-May-2009 10:15:33] <rmatte> oh, I can just create them under 1 then copy and paste them using the management interface, nice
[20-May-2009 10:15:52] <perr0> I am no too sure about zenoss but your snmp.conf files do you have it basic like access to system or do you specify the partitions?
[20-May-2009 10:16:44] <perr0> rmatte: that would make a addition to a wiki
[20-May-2009 10:17:02] <robos> perr0: i'll pastie it.. sec
[20-May-2009 10:18:08] <cain22> hello all
[20-May-2009 10:18:42] <perr0> caseyh20: lol
[20-May-2009 10:18:54] <robos> perr0: http://pastie.org/484216
[20-May-2009 10:19:13] <robos> that's what i have across all 4 linux boxens
[20-May-2009 10:22:25] <cain22> can there be two transforms in one event class?
[20-May-2009 10:23:18] <perr0> robos: can you do a snmpwalk on the boxes you can't see the file system in zenoss to see results?
[20-May-2009 10:24:28] <robos> perr0: yep
[20-May-2009 10:24:33] <perr0> it werks?
[20-May-2009 10:27:03] <robos> yup, it works
[20-May-2009 10:27:26] <robos> looked at the differences between the stdout of the 2 snmp walks and the only diff is the timeticks and kernel version
[20-May-2009 10:27:45] <robos> the ones that work are running kernel 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 19:33:52 EDT 2008
[20-May-2009 10:28:00] <robos> the ones that do not are running 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 09:19:18 EDT 2009
[20-May-2009 10:28:53] <robos> maybe i should do a diff on lsmod?
[20-May-2009 10:33:25] <perr0> no sure
[20-May-2009 10:33:29] <perr0> not sure
[20-May-2009 10:45:37] <jb> anybody here monitoring xen?
[20-May-2009 10:53:37] <ctaloi> hey all, quick question - I have a device (weather goose) that monitors environmentals in our data centers - i'd like to monitor the node via icmp and make sure the web server is responding to requests on port 80, I can add the node as a "ping" class, but don't know how to monitor web on port 80 - any tips?
[20-May-2009 10:54:35] <ctaloi> oh, I think I got it - IP services
[20-May-2009 10:56:05] <rmatte> yes, IP services
[20-May-2009 10:56:33] <ctaloi> rmatte, thanks man
[20-May-2009 10:56:59] <ctaloi> what's the best way to create a "template" of IP services that I would apply to a class of devices?
[20-May-2009 11:00:09] <rmatte> click on Services in the left hand meny
[20-May-2009 11:00:11] <rmatte> menu*
[20-May-2009 11:00:42] <rmatte> once it loads go to IP Services/Priviledged
[20-May-2009 11:00:46] <rmatte> then do a search for http
[20-May-2009 11:00:48] <rmatte> click on it
[20-May-2009 11:00:50] <rmatte> and enable it
[20-May-2009 11:01:05] <rmatte> then it'll automatically be monitored on any devices that you model which have http running on them
[20-May-2009 11:01:20] <rmatte> IpServices/Privileged rather
[20-May-2009 11:02:30] <rmatte> you can also monitor https as well if need be
[20-May-2009 11:13:07] <jb> it would be really nice if zenabackup/zenrestore did zenpacks
[20-May-2009 11:41:52] <cain22> can there be two transforms in one event class?
[20-May-2009 11:42:00] <rmatte> yes
[20-May-2009 11:42:11] <rmatte> you just do it on a case by case basis
[20-May-2009 11:42:18] <rmatte> if this, do this, elif, do this, etc...
[20-May-2009 11:42:33] <cain22> so, just continue on from the last one?
[20-May-2009 11:42:40] <rmatte> yessir
[20-May-2009 11:42:51] <cain22> awesome...thanks
[20-May-2009 11:42:52] <rmatte> you can also apply transforms directly to mapped events
[20-May-2009 11:42:54] <rmatte> for traps
[20-May-2009 11:43:02] <rmatte> you don't have to do all of the traps under the class
[20-May-2009 11:43:17] <rmatte> erm, all of the transforms under the class, rather
[20-May-2009 12:26:50] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[20-May-2009 12:31:57] <rmatte> woohoo, finally finished creating all of my IP SLA graphs
[20-May-2009 12:32:03] <rmatte> (52 graphs)
[20-May-2009 12:54:18] <rmatte> monitors packet loss (both ways), jitter, and round trip time
[20-May-2009 12:54:34] <rmatte> all the monitoring is done from the core router, so we poll that for the stats
[20-May-2009 13:07:33] <jb> nice
[20-May-2009 13:12:27] <robos> hi: 2 of our linux servers aren't monitoring the file systems. In zenoss device -> os tab, it doesn't show the mounted file systems. While 2 of the other linux boxes do. Any ideas why? This is a new setup.
[20-May-2009 13:47:03] <cain22> umm...quick prob dumb question...but does zenoss gather perf about swithces?
[20-May-2009 14:02:18] <jb> anyone know why lots of my logs in $ZENHOME/log would be 0byted?
[20-May-2009 14:03:08] <slestak> hi guys. we are trying to monitor a Cisco ASA firewall with zenoss 2.4 community edition. We have installed the mibs from cisco, but we are getting this error on the ASA appliance.
[20-May-2009 14:03:12] <slestak> incoming SNMP request (575 bytes) from IP address 192.168.21.31 Port 37087 Interface "inside" exceeds data buffer size, discarding this SNMP request.
[20-May-2009 14:03:42] <slestak> I do not see a soln on google, or anything to adjust on either box to accomodate this
[20-May-2009 14:04:18] <chudler> are you using snmp v1? v2?
[20-May-2009 14:05:57] <slestak> v1
[20-May-2009 14:06:01] <chudler> anyway, you might find a solution at: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001365.html
[20-May-2009 14:06:51] <chudler> I was going to suggest you try v1, since it does *something* different with getbulk() vs getnext(), but meh.
[20-May-2009 14:07:31] <slestak> is this sth that should be patched in zenoss? Since the problem was id'd in '06?
[20-May-2009 14:07:52] <slestak> there is a lot of cicso equipment out there
[20-May-2009 14:09:12] <chudler> There's lots of people monitoring cisco, yes. I doubt all of them have this problem. In fact, I don't :-)
[20-May-2009 14:09:33] <chudler> It seems the post is referring to MAX_OIDS_PER_REQUEST = 40, which is around line 50 in 2.3.3
[20-May-2009 14:10:01] <chudler> er line 52 in 2.4.1
[20-May-2009 14:11:29] <slestak> would be cool if this value would be put on zProperties
[20-May-2009 14:11:38] <chudler> agreed
[20-May-2009 14:14:21] <rmatte> can someone explain to me why some of my RRD graphs are listing stuff like 800 m, 600 m, 400 m, etc... along one axis instead of just 1,2,3,4,5, etc...?
[20-May-2009 14:16:51] <jb> hmm
[20-May-2009 14:16:59] <jb> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nfs -H 172.26.101.174 - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an executable
[20-May-2009 14:17:02] <jb> this make no sense
[20-May-2009 14:17:10] <jb> the command works fine.. it has the right permissions, etc
[20-May-2009 14:17:19] <jb> any ideas on what is going on here?
[20-May-2009 14:17:21] <slestak> chudler: ok, it is at d.z.c http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3248
[20-May-2009 14:17:58] <slestak> i'll patch mine and watch this bug.
[20-May-2009 14:18:15] <jb> there is a zProp for max oids per request
[20-May-2009 14:18:20] <jb> its called "zMaxOIDPerRequest"
[20-May-2009 14:19:33] <rmatte> jb, what kind of script is it?
[20-May-2009 14:19:41] <jb> its a nagios command that i have used for months
[20-May-2009 14:19:43] <jb> with no problems
[20-May-2009 14:19:48] <jb> and all of a sudden, it just broke
[20-May-2009 14:19:52] <rmatte> so you didn't write the script?
[20-May-2009 14:19:58] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/opt/zenoss/libexec$ /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nfs -H 172.26.101.174
[20-May-2009 14:19:58] <jb> NFS SERVER OK: Export list for 172.26.101.174: /a (everyone) /Admin (everyone) /Admin-DBA (everyone) /Admin-Out/Cisco/Mars (everyone) /Admin-Out (everyone)
[20-May-2009 14:20:02] <jb> no
[20-May-2009 14:20:18] <rmatte> can you become the zenoss user and run the script from the command line?
[20-May-2009 14:20:24] <jb> i just did, see above
[20-May-2009 14:20:33] <rmatte> ah
[20-May-2009 14:20:36] <rmatte> hmmm
[20-May-2009 14:21:58] <jb> im not sure whats gonig on
[20-May-2009 14:22:12] <rmatte> try restarting zenoss?
[20-May-2009 14:22:15] <jb> yes
[20-May-2009 14:23:10] <jb> and for some reason, all of my logs are 0byted
[20-May-2009 14:23:38] <chudler> have you tried with zentestcommand -v10? It might give us something more to go on.
[20-May-2009 14:23:49] <jb> sec
[20-May-2009 14:24:02] <rmatte> This post... http://www.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5528&view=previous&sid=1e843967ad55bf93d6642c0a1346b9db
[20-May-2009 14:24:26] <rmatte> suggests that moving the script from /opt/zenoss/libexec to /usr/local/zenoss/libexec might resolve the issue
[20-May-2009 14:25:02] <rmatte> From the post:
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> I think i found the problem that
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> the command path default is /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> so i chage it to /usr/local/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-May-2009 14:25:04] <rmatte> now it work fine
[20-May-2009 14:25:11] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/opt/zenoss/log$ zentestcommand -v10 -d fc-nfs01.corp.follett.com --datasource=check_nfs
[20-May-2009 14:25:11] <jb> NFS SERVER OK: Export list for 172.26.101.174: /a (everyone) /Admin (everyone) /Admin-DBA (everyone) /Admin-Out/Cisco/Mars (everyone) /Admin-Out (everyone)
[20-May-2009 14:25:27] <jb> rmatte: hmmm, that seems silly.
[20-May-2009 14:25:49] <rmatte> does seem silly, but I know that I don't have any of my scripts in the /opt directory and they all work fine, so no idea
[20-May-2009 14:25:55] <jb> so did mine, until today
[20-May-2009 14:26:00] <jb> and this is the only one that "broke"
[20-May-2009 14:26:09] <rmatte> did you modify anything today?
[20-May-2009 14:26:13] <jb> nothin
[20-May-2009 14:26:15] <jb> i did a zenbackup
[20-May-2009 14:26:17] <jb> and thats it
[20-May-2009 14:26:25] <rmatte> and you're positive that no one else touched the server?
[20-May-2009 14:26:29] <jb> positive
[20-May-2009 14:26:43] <rmatte> things don't just generally break on their own, something must have changed
[20-May-2009 14:26:51] <jb> i know..
[20-May-2009 14:26:57] <jb> im not sure if the zenbackup triggered anything or not
[20-May-2009 14:27:09] <jb> the fact that I can run it from the CLI and with zencommandtest
[20-May-2009 14:27:13] <jb> means that there should be no problem
[20-May-2009 14:27:37] <rmatte> have you tried doing "chown -R zenoss:zenoss /opt/zenoss && chmod +x /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http" just for the heck of it?
[20-May-2009 14:27:50] <rmatte> erm
[20-May-2009 14:27:57] <rmatte> have you tried doing "chown -R zenoss /opt/zenoss && chmod +x /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http" just for the heck of it?
[20-May-2009 14:28:04] <rmatte> (there is no zenoss group hehe)
[20-May-2009 14:28:13] <jb> nope
[20-May-2009 14:28:19] <rmatte> worth a try
[20-May-2009 14:29:08] <chudler> if you do chown all of /opt/zenoss, make sure you at least change back bin/zensocket. I think it is usually setuid root
[20-May-2009 14:29:14] <jb> yeah
[20-May-2009 14:29:20] <jb> i don't think im going to do that
[20-May-2009 14:33:18] <rmatte> you could just do it on the libexec directory
[20-May-2009 14:34:40] <rmatte> well, that forum link I pasted is for the exact same issue with the exact same command
[20-May-2009 14:35:52] <rmatte> bingo
[20-May-2009 14:35:54] <rmatte> http://www.mail-archive.com/zenoss-users@zenoss.org/msg21264.html//www.mail-archive.com/zenoss-users@zenoss.org/msg21264.html
[20-May-2009 14:36:20] <rmatte> actually, hmmm
[20-May-2009 14:40:26] <jb> hm
[20-May-2009 14:43:51] <jb> i think everything is blowing up right now.
[20-May-2009 14:46:44] <rmatte> not good
[20-May-2009 14:47:28] <jb> actually
[20-May-2009 14:47:28] <jb> nm
[20-May-2009 14:47:38] <jb> do you have a directory named "localhost" in $ZENHOME/log?
[20-May-2009 14:48:10] <rmatte> no
[20-May-2009 14:48:20] <jb> ok
[20-May-2009 14:49:15] <rmatte> I usually just put scripts that I want to run in $ZENHOME/Products/Whatever/libexec/scripts.py/.sh/.whatever
[20-May-2009 14:49:39] <rmatte> then just do something like $$ZENHOME/Products/IPSLA/libexec/ipsla.sh <arguments>
[20-May-2009 14:49:52] <jb> yeah
[20-May-2009 14:55:35] <perr0> wb
[20-May-2009 14:59:35] <rmatte> but yeh, back to my original question, does anyone know why the Y axis on some of my RRD graphs shows in milliseconds instead of percent when I specified percentage as the units and the format for the graph points is set as %5.2lf ?
[20-May-2009 15:00:01] <rmatte> doesn't make any sense, and it's going to be confusing for clients to look at
[20-May-2009 15:19:42] <rmatte> oh, I see why, it's on any graph that hasn't hit a value of 1 or more
[20-May-2009 15:19:45] <rmatte> they are all decimals
[20-May-2009 15:19:56] <rmatte> makes sense
[20-May-2009 16:12:31] <jb> yay
[20-May-2009 16:12:35] <jb> finally readable disk alerts in 2.4.1
[20-May-2009 16:17:29] <rmatte> readable disk alerts?
[20-May-2009 16:17:35] <rmatte> example?
[20-May-2009 16:25:11] <jb> 'disk space threshold: 103.2% used (-0.06 GB free)'
[20-May-2009 16:25:20] <jb> instead of block size, etc
[20-May-2009 16:25:49] <chudler> oh, sweet. I upgraded, but hadn't noticed. I guess I can get rid of all those transforms
[20-May-2009 16:25:55] <jb> actually
[20-May-2009 16:26:01] <jb> looks like we still need one for the clears
[20-May-2009 16:26:04] <jb> Event: 'disk space threshold: 103.2% used (-0.06 GB free)'
[20-May-2009 16:26:04] <jb> Cleared by: 'Threshold of Free Space 90 Percent restored: current value: 524172.00'
[20-May-2009 16:26:31] <jb> i'll open a ticket about it.. maybe it was just forgotten
[20-May-2009 16:29:16] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5056
[20-May-2009 16:32:40] <rmatte> probably was
[20-May-2009 16:32:50] <chudler> might be more likely to get work with a patch. OTOH, I never look at their trac, so I don't know
[20-May-2009 18:52:15] <gutseb> Does anyone have any experience with trying to monitor a altix box with zenoss?
[20-May-2009 20:02:07] <rmatte> what do you need to monitor on them?
[20-May-2009 20:02:17] <rmatte> I assume they are just running Linux?
[20-May-2009 20:23:09] <gutseb> services
[20-May-2009 20:23:20] <gutseb> i think we figured some of it out.
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[21-May-2009 02:18:10] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[21-May-2009 02:18:15] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 02:18:40] <sergeymasushko> hi
[21-May-2009 02:18:52] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: morning
[21-May-2009 02:20:17] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Zenoss is blaming that can't connect ZenHub
[21-May-2009 02:20:31] <raddy> sergeymasushko : when manually modeling a device
[21-May-2009 02:20:43] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Zenhub is running perfectly.
[21-May-2009 02:21:06] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I am running ZenOSS 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 02:21:13] <sergeymasushko> try to restart zenhub daemon and zenmodeler daemon.
[21-May-2009 02:23:02] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Still no improvement.
[21-May-2009 02:23:44] <raddy> sergeymasushko : this problem occuring after i changed Zope port and Zeo port.
[21-May-2009 02:31:06] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[21-May-2009 02:40:32] <raddy> Anybody there?????????
[21-May-2009 02:49:55] <raddy> Anybody thereeeeeeeeeeee
[21-May-2009 03:49:26] <sergeymasushko> raddy
[21-May-2009 03:49:33] <sergeymasushko> still here?
[21-May-2009 03:50:07] <sergeymasushko> did you edit zenhub conf after changing ports?
[21-May-2009 03:52:29] <sergeymasushko> raddy: as zenoss user run the following command: zenhub genconf > zenhub.conf.example
[21-May-2009 03:52:29] <sergeymasushko> in the zenhub.conf.example you can find information that should be edited.
[21-May-2009 04:19:44] <mara> good morning
[21-May-2009 04:20:46] <sergeymasushko> morning
[21-May-2009 04:21:18] <mara> i have installing zenoss 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 04:21:35] <mara> and now i have to install the agent
[21-May-2009 04:21:52] <mara> i have choosing net-snmp
[21-May-2009 04:22:26] <mara> must i install it on the server or on the host that i want monitor
[21-May-2009 04:22:29] <mara> ???
[21-May-2009 04:23:19] <mara> any one have an idea??
[21-May-2009 04:23:26] <sergeymasushko> you can install it on both instances
[21-May-2009 04:23:44] <sergeymasushko> to monitor zenoss itself and remote host
[21-May-2009 04:24:38] <mara> o thanks
[21-May-2009 04:25:18] <mara> can you tell how can i configure the snmpd .conf for net- snmp
[21-May-2009 04:26:30] <mara> ???
[21-May-2009 06:22:37] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 06:25:29] <sergeymasushko> raddy: did you fix the problem?
[21-May-2009 06:25:44] <afink> Hello everyone, anyone know where there is a good tutorial on how to get CentOS performance monitors working?
[21-May-2009 06:26:27] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Nope, going to reinstall
[21-May-2009 06:42:50] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Hi
[21-May-2009 06:43:07] <sergeymasushko> raddy: hi
[21-May-2009 06:43:23] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I checked out the config, there is no zeo related port setting there.
[21-May-2009 06:43:54] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Only rpc-xml port related stuff is there.
[21-May-2009 06:46:47] <sergeymasushko> raddy: what about ?
[21-May-2009 06:46:48] <sergeymasushko> # port of zeo server, default: 8100
[21-May-2009 06:46:48] <sergeymasushko> #port 8100
[21-May-2009 06:48:36] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Yeahhhhhh, i missed it
[21-May-2009 06:52:12] <raddy> sergeymasushko : It would surely work, once again thanks in advance
[21-May-2009 06:54:21] <raddy> sergeymasushko : It worked great .
[21-May-2009 06:54:35] <sergeymasushko>
[21-May-2009 06:55:11] <sergeymasushko> happy to hear it
[21-May-2009 06:56:12] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I was very much frustrated in seeing zenoss to not work. your help indeed was a great rescue.
[21-May-2009 06:56:27] <raddy> I had lot of other things to worry too.
[21-May-2009 06:59:14] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I am using ssh to monitor one of my server.
[21-May-2009 06:59:39] <raddy> sergeymasushko : the script zenoss runs, has a path like /home/zenoss.
[21-May-2009 06:59:49] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Can i change it?
[21-May-2009 07:00:01] <sergeymasushko> sure
[21-May-2009 07:00:10] <raddy> sergeymasushko : How?
[21-May-2009 07:00:18] <sergeymasushko> on the zProperties tab of the device
[21-May-2009 07:00:25] <raddy> Ohh okk
[21-May-2009 07:03:27] <sergeymasushko> raddy sorry you should define path in the template... not on the device....
[21-May-2009 07:03:54] <raddy> sergeymasushko : So in /CMD, right?
[21-May-2009 07:05:31] <sergeymasushko> open datasource in the template and in the 'Command Template' you should /palce/your/path/to/thescript.sh
[21-May-2009 07:05:49] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Ohh
[21-May-2009 07:06:52] <raddy> ${zCommandPath} should be replaced?
[21-May-2009 07:11:14] <raddy> sergeymasushko : here/mount should be changed?
[21-May-2009 07:24:24] afink_ is now known as afink
[21-May-2009 07:26:26] <raddy> sergeymasushko : are you there?
[21-May-2009 07:26:29] <afink> is there a trick to getting the rrd graphs on centos to work with zenoss? I am getting debug errors that I am missing laLoadInt15, laLoadInt5, memAvailReal...How do I configure these? I have configured snmp on centos and installed rrdtool what else do I need to do?
[21-May-2009 07:27:55] <afink> maybe I just needed net-snmp-utils?
[21-May-2009 07:31:08] <raddy> It seems zenoss 2.4x don't has the zenplugin.py
[21-May-2009 07:33:22] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 07:53:50] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 07:57:20] <jb> anybody here running 2.4.1?
[21-May-2009 07:57:46] <raddy> jb : me
[21-May-2009 07:59:04] <jb> raddy: have you tried to disable monitoring of a windows service?
[21-May-2009 07:59:42] <raddy> jb : yeah
[21-May-2009 07:59:51] <jb> does it work?
[21-May-2009 08:00:01] <raddy> Yeh
[21-May-2009 08:00:09] <jb> k
[21-May-2009 08:11:28] <raddy> jp : Can you help me?
[21-May-2009 08:23:41] <jb> with?
[21-May-2009 08:23:48] <jb> let me read the scroll..
[21-May-2009 08:23:49] <jb> sec
[21-May-2009 08:24:21] <jb> whats the problem?
[21-May-2009 08:24:32] <jb> you can change the path in the datasource for the command
[21-May-2009 08:24:36] <raddy> jp : free swap usage is shown in bytes
[21-May-2009 08:24:52] <raddy> jp : I want it to be shown in MB.
[21-May-2009 08:25:19] <jb> you should just be able to alter teh RPN
[21-May-2009 08:25:48] <raddy> jp : can you elaborate?
[21-May-2009 08:37:23] <mara> hi every bod
[21-May-2009 08:38:23] <mara> can you tell me what version of net-snmp agent i must install for zenoss 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 08:38:55] <mara> PS:i am usinf ubutu
[21-May-2009 08:38:57] <mara> ??
[21-May-2009 08:42:14] <mara> any one have an answer
[21-May-2009 08:43:24] <raddy> Hi mara
[21-May-2009 08:43:38] <raddy> mara : No specific version.
[21-May-2009 08:45:04] <raddy> mara : it can work with snmp v1, 2, 3
[21-May-2009 08:50:48] <mara> ??????????
[21-May-2009 08:51:15] <raddy> mara : didn't you see my message?
[21-May-2009 09:21:41] <rmatte> does anyone know of a way to easily set it so that if a particular event comes in it auto-clears all other events that came in for a device?
[21-May-2009 09:22:04] <rmatte> for instance, when Zenoss detects a device reboot, I want it to clear all of the other events that came in for the device
[21-May-2009 09:22:14] <rmatte> so that we don't get like 70 notifications for a single device reboot
[21-May-2009 09:22:47] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: morning... event mapping ?
[21-May-2009 09:23:42] <rmatte> I have all of the 70 or so events mapped and I have transforms applied to them, but I need to set a condition where if an event comes in with a summary of "Device Reboot", then it clears all other events that came in for that device, except that one of course
[21-May-2009 09:24:06] <rmatte> we have Zenoss integrated with a ticketing system, and it sucks for our analysts when they get 70 tickets flood in for a server reboot
[21-May-2009 09:24:38] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: we have the same thing...
[21-May-2009 09:24:39] <jb> yes, that would be nice
[21-May-2009 09:27:40] <rmatte> good morning Matt
[21-May-2009 09:27:45] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[21-May-2009 09:30:37] <rmatte> Perhaps you can answer my question, I'm trying to figure out what the quickest way is to have a particular event (Device Reboot), automatically clear all other events for that particular device when it comes in.
[21-May-2009 09:31:21] <rmatte> There's a BlackBerry server that reboots every week, when it does it floods us with like 70 events, which, on their own are valid events, but we don't want to see alerts for them when the device reboots
[21-May-2009 09:32:08] <mrayzenoss> well, you could set clear events for the other events, but that would be tedious
[21-May-2009 09:32:20] <mrayzenoss> I think an event transform could probably be used
[21-May-2009 09:32:27] <mrayzenoss> let me dig around for something similar
[21-May-2009 09:33:09] <rmatte> thanks, appreciated
[21-May-2009 09:33:21] <rmatte> yeh, I was thinking about a transform, just not quite sure how to script it
[21-May-2009 09:36:57] <jb> any devs comin in today?
[21-May-2009 09:37:01] <mrayzenoss> is the reboot scheduled?
[21-May-2009 09:37:20] <mrayzenoss> jb: nah, they're wrapping up planning. I mean, somebody might be in here but nothing's scheduled
[21-May-2009 09:37:25] <rmatte> ummm, good question, let me check the timestamps...
[21-May-2009 09:37:37] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: if the reboot is scheduled, a maintenance window would suppress all events
[21-May-2009 09:38:00] <rmatte> there are actually 3 different blackberry servers that we are having this particular problem with, each with their own reboot schedule though
[21-May-2009 09:38:18] <rmatte> we can't suppress all events, we still need to actually see that the device rebooted
[21-May-2009 09:38:27] <jb> ah ok..
[21-May-2009 09:38:34] <jb> i can't seem to disable monitoring of any windows service in 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 09:38:41] <jb> Type: BadRequest
[21-May-2009 09:38:41] <jb> Value: The property port does not exist
[21-May-2009 09:38:42] <jb> Traceback (innermost last):
[21-May-2009 09:38:47] <mrayzenoss> give each server a group, set up a maintenance window just for that server on it's reboot schedule
[21-May-2009 09:39:09] <mrayzenoss> jb: seriously? I thought that was fixed
[21-May-2009 09:39:18] <jb> not for me
[21-May-2009 09:39:20] <rmatte> any way to still have the Device Reboot ticket stay in active events with the maintenance windows?
[21-May-2009 09:39:25] <jb> there may be a patch
[21-May-2009 09:39:36] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: hmmm.... there's a new feature in 2.4
[21-May-2009 09:39:47] <mrayzenoss> that adds events based on maintenance windows starting and stopping
[21-May-2009 09:40:01] <rmatte> hmmm
[21-May-2009 09:41:15] <rmatte> it looks like these particular reboots are done by hand by the client, so the maintenance window would be like a 2 hour period, can't afford to suppress all events for that long
[21-May-2009 09:41:21] <rmatte> any other options?
[21-May-2009 09:41:55] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: there's a maintenance level that suppresses alerts, but not events
[21-May-2009 09:42:20] <mrayzenoss> or actually, I guess that's an alert schedule
[21-May-2009 09:43:37] <rmatte> a transform is looking like probably the only option, but I can't think of how I'd do it
[21-May-2009 09:44:45] <rmatte> I'd have to do some function where it's like, if evt.summary == Device Reboot then for each event for device where evt.summary != Device Reboot set evt.severity = 0
[21-May-2009 09:45:40] <mrayzenoss> yeah, there's probably a call similar to ZenEventManager.getEventList("device")
[21-May-2009 09:45:50] <mrayzenoss> that you can get to from the event
[21-May-2009 09:46:11] <mrayzenoss> I just can't find a good example
[21-May-2009 09:46:53] <rmatte> mara: you really need to read the Zenoss Admin Guide
[21-May-2009 09:47:14] <rmatte> the questions that you are asking are covered in there
[21-May-2009 09:47:33] <rmatte> hmmm
[21-May-2009 09:47:50] <rmatte> the other issue is the amount of time that the events are spread over before/after the reboot
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> First Event: 2009/05/20 22:22:11.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> Reboot: Device Reboot
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> Last Event: 2009/05/20 22:27:03.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:35] <rmatte> oops
[21-May-2009 09:48:47] <rmatte> Reboot: 2009/05/20 22:25:58.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:48] <rmatte> rather
[21-May-2009 09:49:20] <jb> what event are you transforming ot get "Device Reboot" ?
[21-May-2009 09:49:34] <rmatte> snmp trap snmp_coldStart
[21-May-2009 09:49:57] <jb> i need to go thru and transform all of those
[21-May-2009 09:50:07] <jb> so you pretty much have them all transformed?
[21-May-2009 09:50:20] <chudler> rmatte: Would an event command (zendmd script) be able to handle this?
[21-May-2009 09:50:21] <rmatte> I just did evt.summary = 'Device Reboot' evt.component='REBOOT'
[21-May-2009 09:50:23] <rmatte> pretty simple
[21-May-2009 09:50:42] <rmatte> chudler: no idea
[21-May-2009 09:50:56] <rmatte> chudler: it's possible
[21-May-2009 09:51:04] <mrayzenoss> chudler: that's a sneaky good idea
[21-May-2009 09:52:56] <rmatte> I'm just wondering how I'd deal with the 5 minute time spread for the events
[21-May-2009 09:53:17] <mrayzenoss> Jane Curry's auto-discovery paper has a transform for snmp_coldStarts
[21-May-2009 09:53:22] <rmatte> I need tickets to be generated after a 60 second delay, which is how I have the ticket create command setup
[21-May-2009 09:54:01] <mrayzenoss> http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/auto_disco_paper.pdf
[21-May-2009 09:54:06] <rmatte> but the events are spread over 5 minutes, most come in 3 minutes before the actual reboot event
[21-May-2009 09:56:45] <jb> mrayzenoss: i created a ticket @ http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/505
[21-May-2009 09:56:55] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5059
[21-May-2009 09:56:56] <jb> rather
[21-May-2009 09:58:04] <rmatte> yeh, that coldstart transform is kind of for a specific scenario though
[21-May-2009 09:58:29] <rmatte> where you want devices moved between classes when rebooted
[21-May-2009 09:58:52] <rmatte> interesting trick though
[21-May-2009 09:59:01] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I was just looking at transforms and you mentioned coldstart, reminded me
[21-May-2009 09:59:18] <rmatte> hehe
[21-May-2009 09:59:58] <mrayzenoss> jb: updated your ticket, I think it's a regression
[21-May-2009 10:10:58] <rmatte> hmmm, less than a minute in to the reboot cycle I always see Blackberry SRP Connection Dropped, maybe I can use that as a trigger for the transform
[21-May-2009 10:28:33] <rmatte> this is such a small fix, it's almost trivial
[21-May-2009 10:35:04] <mara> I have found my file snmpd.conf under /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/. Is that normal?
[21-May-2009 10:42:00] <mrayzenoss> mara: that's probably an example file
[21-May-2009 10:46:27] <mara> i can't found the directory snmp under etc
[21-May-2009 10:46:42] <mara> even i have installed snmp
[21-May-2009 10:46:54] <mara> i can't found the cause
[21-May-2009 10:46:57] <mara> ??
[21-May-2009 10:47:00] <mara>
[21-May-2009 10:59:29] <perr0> caseyh20: you haven't had time to make a note in the freebsd ticket?
[21-May-2009 11:00:35] <caseyh20> well I looked at the tickets and they really are not for what we are having problems with
[21-May-2009 11:01:12] <perr0> ok, I thought that the intentions were to put everything into one ticket since it had to do with the installation/installer
[21-May-2009 11:01:17] <perr0> but either way
[21-May-2009 11:01:52] <caseyh20> I was not aware
[21-May-2009 11:02:06] <caseyh20> if that is what they want us to do I can
[21-May-2009 11:02:07] <perr0> I think that was what Matt said?
[21-May-2009 11:02:13] <perr0> mrayzenoss: ?
[21-May-2009 11:03:33] <caseyh20> I am setting up a system with a fresh install of FreeBSD 7.2 to see if I can replicate the issue
[21-May-2009 11:03:40] <perr0> ya
[21-May-2009 11:03:44] <mrayzenoss> feel free to open a FreeBSD source ticket
[21-May-2009 11:04:37] <mrayzenoss> our build manager has time scheduled to upgrade our source build
[21-May-2009 11:04:47] <mrayzenoss> so if there's a reference ticket he'll hit it
[21-May-2009 11:05:05] <perr0> yeah, do you when this will be?
[21-May-2009 11:05:25] <perr0> it doesn't matter
[21-May-2009 11:05:27] <mrayzenoss> well, he's working on our buildbot the next few weeks
[21-May-2009 11:05:46] <mrayzenoss> but if there's a ticket that catches the fixes, we can get people to submit more fixes and I can point them to it as reference
[21-May-2009 11:05:50] <mrayzenoss> 2.5 will be fixed
[21-May-2009 11:06:18] <mrayzenoss> and we'll have docs for making 2.4 work
[21-May-2009 11:08:19] <perr0> if I can get it to work on freebsd I will get rid of all these enterprise linux boxes we have at work
[21-May-2009 11:08:56] <caseyh20> yeah, I don't want to have to launch a linux box just to run zenoss lol
[21-May-2009 11:09:34] <perr0> caseyh20: save that for the ##freebsd channel lol
[21-May-2009 11:09:45] <sergeymasushko> maybe I can help too with the freebsd
[21-May-2009 11:10:00] <perr0> sergeymasushko: did you ever speak to the guy who installed it?
[21-May-2009 11:11:36] <sergeymasushko> perr0: he is too busy right now... and I didn't get an answer yet... I'm going to install zenoss at home on a freebsd... will see if get some erorrs....
[21-May-2009 11:12:13] <mrayzenoss> do all of you FreeBSD users have a trac account?
[21-May-2009 11:12:26] <perr0> just the generic one?
[21-May-2009 11:12:33] <mrayzenoss> I thought I gave you one?
[21-May-2009 11:12:38] <perr0> zenoss/zenoss
[21-May-2009 11:12:42] <mrayzenoss> anyone who wants a trac account, email me
[21-May-2009 11:12:46] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[21-May-2009 11:13:22] <mrayzenoss> we can open a definitive FreeBSD build issues ticket, so when Glenn starts addressing the source build he'll have a reference
[21-May-2009 11:13:31] <mrayzenoss> also, we can start making changes to trunk
[21-May-2009 11:13:49] <perr0> that would be great
[21-May-2009 11:13:51] <mrayzenoss> does FreeBSD 7.2 still have Python 2.4?
[21-May-2009 11:14:15] <perr0> I am sure
[21-May-2009 11:14:20] <perr0> we can installed
[21-May-2009 11:14:27] <perr0> it
[21-May-2009 11:15:05] <mrayzenoss> hmm... there is a chance that Zenoss 2.5 will be able to start getting into community distros
[21-May-2009 11:15:24] <mrayzenoss> we don't plan on upgrading Python yet, but possibly Zope
[21-May-2009 11:15:38] <mrayzenoss> which was the blocker for most distros
[21-May-2009 11:16:06] <chudler> that's cool. A newer python would be sweet ;-)
[21-May-2009 11:16:33] <mrayzenoss> chudler: well, Zope first, then Python
[21-May-2009 11:16:47] <mrayzenoss> Zope 2.12 will add Python 2.6, it's not out yet
[21-May-2009 11:23:48] <perr0> caseyh20: sergeymasushko Is going to give it a try at home, I just hate being so busy lately do you mind updating your blog on the steps you have done so far?
[21-May-2009 11:24:09] <caseyh20> will do
[21-May-2009 11:24:43] <caseyh20> I am trying a different approach right now, i will update everything before lunch
[21-May-2009 11:24:49] <perr0> thank you maign!
[21-May-2009 11:24:56] <caseyh20> lol, no problem
[21-May-2009 11:25:18] <perr0> sergeymasushko: when ever caseyh20 has time you can see his progress here http://www.caseyhillman.com/?p=88&cpage=1#comment-951
[21-May-2009 11:25:56] <sergeymasushko> ok. thanks
[21-May-2009 11:56:23] <skarphace> During build on a FreeBSD 7.1 system I get this: ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[21-May-2009 11:56:27] <skarphace> Ideas appreciated.
[21-May-2009 11:56:45] <perr0> for gettext?
[21-May-2009 11:59:21] <perr0> I reverted back to gettext 016 and edited the rrddeps.sh scripts and caseyh20: downloaded the gnu libiconv-1.13.tar.gz and put it in the rrddep dir with the rest of the source tars and then I added an entry for it at the top of the rrddep.sh script...
[21-May-2009 12:00:03] <perr0> @ skarphace ^^
[21-May-2009 12:02:23] <caseyh20> skarphace: please see this http://pastebin.com/me5ee1a3
[21-May-2009 12:11:21] <skarphace> perr0: yes, gettext
[21-May-2009 12:12:39] <skarphace> perr0: Should I expect any upgrade of fbsd to break this install?
[21-May-2009 12:15:46] <perr0> hmm... as long you follow the install instructions you should be fine
[21-May-2009 12:16:44] <perr0> the thing is none of us online now have been able to get it installed but one person and he actually was not the one who got it working so we are at a stand still
[21-May-2009 12:17:24] <skarphace> hm, fun.
[21-May-2009 12:18:16] <skarphace> maybe I should just drop it on my centos box.
[21-May-2009 12:18:25] <perr0> that is what I did
[21-May-2009 12:18:50] <perr0> as soon as the fix is in place enterprise Linux is gone
[21-May-2009 12:19:56] <skarphace> heh
[21-May-2009 12:21:40] <skarphace> So far so good atleast.
[21-May-2009 12:22:44] <caseyh20> how far has it gotten?
[21-May-2009 12:24:44] <skarphace> Though it got further, but no. Same error.
[21-May-2009 12:25:01] <perr0> did you try caseyh20's fix?
[21-May-2009 12:25:22] <skarphace> yes
[21-May-2009 12:25:33] <perr0> how did you come up with this if you don't mind me asking casey?
[21-May-2009 12:25:50] <Serideru> anone have any idea what zenping host has no manage ip means?
[21-May-2009 12:26:03] <skarphace> error: iconv.h: No such file or directory
[21-May-2009 12:26:21] <caseyh20> which package is it trying to build though? it should be glib now
[21-May-2009 12:26:37] <perr0> could it be its just pointing to the wrong directory?
[21-May-2009 12:26:47] <caseyh20> perr0: that is exactly what is happening
[21-May-2009 12:27:10] <perr0> link time?
[21-May-2009 12:27:49] <caseyh20> to get glib to compile I just copied /usr/local/zenoss/include/iconv.h to /usr/local/include and /usr/include not the best way to do it but Iam just testing right now
[21-May-2009 12:28:06] <skarphace> last gcc command: gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DEXEEXT=\"\" -DEXEEXT=\"\" -DEXEEXT=\"\" -I. -I.. -I../intl -I../intl -I.. -I.. -DDEPENDS_ON_LIBICONV=1 -DDEPENDS_ON_LIBINTL=1 -DLIBXML_STATIC -I../intl -I./libcroco -D_THREAD_SAFE -O3 -fPIC -I/usr/local/zenoss/include -c term-styled-ostream.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/term-styled-ostream.o
[21-May-2009 12:28:19] <perr0> do a link
[21-May-2009 12:28:46] <skarphace> I have an iconv.h in /usr/local/include and /usr/include/sys/
[21-May-2009 12:28:55] <caseyh20> right
[21-May-2009 12:28:57] <skarphace> I guess it wants it in /usr/local/zenoss/include?
[21-May-2009 12:29:31] <caseyh20> you should have one in /usr/local/zenoss/include if you made the changes to the rrddeps.sh file
[21-May-2009 12:29:46] <caseyh20> and put the source for libiconv in rrddeps directory
[21-May-2009 12:30:19] <skarphace> I only have a python directory there.
[21-May-2009 12:30:34] <skarphace> does the position of the dep in rrddeps.sh matter?
[21-May-2009 12:30:44] <skarphace> I added it pretty far down the list.
[21-May-2009 12:30:50] <caseyh20> it needs to be the first
[21-May-2009 12:31:19] <skarphace> aight, let's give this a shot again. Thanks.
[21-May-2009 12:36:15] <caseyh20> I Got It!
[21-May-2009 12:39:01] <skarphace> Still building. Good sign.
[21-May-2009 12:45:16] <perr0> right on!
[21-May-2009 13:03:26] <skarphace> aw crap, another error.
[21-May-2009 13:04:33] <skarphace> Not much useful information: Error expanding embedded variable.
[21-May-2009 13:04:56] <skarphace> "./builds/toplevel.mk", line 50: Need an operator
[21-May-2009 13:05:50] <skarphace> last entry in zenbuild.log is this: running install_lib
[21-May-2009 13:06:00] <skarphace> errors on the console only.
[21-May-2009 13:08:39] <skarphace> gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `unix'.
[21-May-2009 13:10:02] <perr0> ya I think that is for freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:10:40] <skarphace> yeah, looks like it.
[21-May-2009 13:10:58] <perr0> I am wondering if we can somehow install freetype2 from the ports will solve this issue
[21-May-2009 13:11:12] <perr0> do you already have it installed?
[21-May-2009 13:11:37] <perr0> cause I know all packages outside of ports has to be "ported" over to freebsd
[21-May-2009 13:12:03] <perr0> I am just rambling sorry
[21-May-2009 13:13:20] <rmatte> oops
[21-May-2009 13:13:22] <rmatte> in python how do you do a 'not equal to' for a string?
[21-May-2009 13:13:50] <rmatte> I assume it's not as easy as string != 'bleh'?
[21-May-2009 13:15:56] <skarphace> != or <> works, I think.
[21-May-2009 13:17:18] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[21-May-2009 13:17:19] <skarphace> perr0: it does look like I have freetype2 installed.
[21-May-2009 13:17:22] <rmatte> cool
[21-May-2009 13:17:37] <skarphace> /usr/local/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:18:45] <skarphace> Is it trying to install it's own instance?
[21-May-2009 13:18:55] <perr0> yes
[21-May-2009 13:18:58] <Serideru> anyone have an idea what would cause zenoss to alert on an snmp failure on a device that snmpignore is set to true? The device has been manually remodeled since the zproperty change.
[21-May-2009 13:19:10] <perr0> its needed by rrdtools
[21-May-2009 13:19:41] <skarphace> Can I skip freetype2 installation and point it to the already installed version?
[21-May-2009 13:19:57] <mrayzenoss> Serideru: hmmm... I wonder if it tried to model it again even though snmpignore was set to true?
[21-May-2009 13:20:00] <perr0> this is were I was told to stop spending too much time with it
[21-May-2009 13:20:23] <skarphace> heh
[21-May-2009 13:20:51] <skarphace> I wonder if I can yank it out of rrddeps.sh and then symlink it to the current install.
[21-May-2009 13:21:17] <skarphace> Can you give me it's install directory for freetype?
[21-May-2009 13:25:39] <skarphace> /usr/local/zenoss/include/freetype2?
[21-May-2009 13:27:21] <perr0> who?
[21-May-2009 13:27:34] <perr0> let me check
[21-May-2009 13:33:01] <rmatte> I know that I can do something like if re.search("User removed from the BES", msgtext):...
[21-May-2009 13:33:26] <rmatte> but how would I go about saying if a string does not contain a certain piece of text
[21-May-2009 13:33:57] <rmatte> I just want to ommit any event where the event summary contains 'is down'
[21-May-2009 13:33:58] <mrayzenoss> if/elif ?
[21-May-2009 13:34:32] <mrayzenoss> can you do a !re.search?
[21-May-2009 13:34:37] <perr0> zenoss/common/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:34:46] <rmatte> needs to be something like: if evt.summary != 'Device Reboot' and evt.summary != "*is down"
[21-May-2009 13:35:12] <perr0> skarphace: you are correct /usr/local/zenoss/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:36:40] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: you can put a ! in your regex
[21-May-2009 13:37:01] <rmatte> ah
[21-May-2009 13:37:38] <rmatte> so...
[21-May-2009 13:37:40] <rmatte> if evt.summary != 'Device Reboot' and !re.search("is down", evt.summary)
[21-May-2009 13:37:42] <rmatte> should work?
[21-May-2009 13:37:49] <rmatte> (forgot colon at end, but other than that)
[21-May-2009 13:39:11] <mrayzenoss> I typically open up python and http://docs.python.org/howto/regex.html#regex-howto and test it
[21-May-2009 13:40:44] <perr0> skarphace: I have to run an errand but will live iirc on. if you get further let us know, please?
[21-May-2009 13:40:45] <rmatte> nah, it doesn't like the ! before the re
[21-May-2009 13:40:55] <perr0> leave*
[21-May-2009 13:41:03] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: then try it within your regex
[21-May-2009 13:41:13] <rmatte> what do you mean?
[21-May-2009 13:41:28] <rmatte> re.search(!"is down", evt.summary)?
[21-May-2009 13:41:35] <pgega> hello
[21-May-2009 13:43:14] <rmatte> that doesn't work
[21-May-2009 13:44:14] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: yeah, within your regex instead of on the outside
[21-May-2009 13:44:23] <mrayzenoss> not sure of the syntax
[21-May-2009 13:45:34] <mrayzenoss> re.match('!is down', evt.summary)
[21-May-2009 13:45:57] <mrayzenoss> err, search
[21-May-2009 13:47:11] <rmatte> doesn't seem to work
[21-May-2009 13:48:11] <caseyh20> skarphace: you still having issues with freetype?
[21-May-2009 13:48:48] <caseyh20> what version of python does zenoss currently use?
[21-May-2009 13:48:48] <rmatte> got it
[21-May-2009 13:49:04] <rmatte> or not
[21-May-2009 13:50:23] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: 2.4.4
[21-May-2009 13:53:14] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[21-May-2009 14:08:41] <rmatte> hmmm, still haven't figured this out
[21-May-2009 14:13:18] <pgega> is there any easy way to get graphs from cacti and import them to zenoss ?
[21-May-2009 14:13:52] <mrayzenoss> pgega: probably whatever you're using to get your graphs in Cactii can be reused by Zenoss
[21-May-2009 14:14:15] <mrayzenoss> pgega: you can reuse your Cactii plugins
[21-May-2009 14:14:46] <mrayzenoss> pgega: migrating your existing data would take some work
[21-May-2009 14:16:15] <pgega> mrayzenoss, but it is not impossible ?
[21-May-2009 14:16:31] <pgega> or unreasonable :
[21-May-2009 14:16:34] <pgega> rather
[21-May-2009 14:16:40] <rmatte> re.search handles regex expressions so strangely, I've tried all the standard stuff, nothing works
[21-May-2009 14:17:38] <mrayzenoss> pgega: If you're familiar with RRDTool and the various options, I imagine it can be done
[21-May-2009 14:18:31] <mrayzenoss> pgega: try this. Add the datasource with the Cactii plugin, using the RRDCreate settings you used in Cactii
[21-May-2009 14:18:40] <mrayzenoss> pgega: then drop in a copy of your existing data
[21-May-2009 14:18:55] <mrayzenoss> I think that would work, since the file would be the same format
[21-May-2009 14:20:22] <mrayzenoss> the perf data is kept in $ZENHOME/perf/
[21-May-2009 14:27:45] <pgega> cacti's templates can be exported to xml
[21-May-2009 14:28:10] <skarphace> caseyh20: sorry, lunch.
[21-May-2009 14:28:25] <pgega> i am wondering if those can be imported/piped into zenoss after some processing
[21-May-2009 14:28:54] <mrayzenoss> I'm sure they can
[21-May-2009 14:29:08] <mrayzenoss> both tools use RRDTool
[21-May-2009 14:29:20] <pgega> yes, ii know
[21-May-2009 14:29:29] <caseyh20> skarphace: I have a fix for freetype
[21-May-2009 14:29:43] <skarphace> caseyh20: I got the following for lack of freetype. I forgot to put the symlink in before the build. configure: error: Cairo requires at least one native font backend. Please install FreeType and fontconfig and try again.
[21-May-2009 14:29:47] <pgega> xml seems to be perfect to reform and insert to some db
[21-May-2009 14:29:53] <skarphace> caseyh20: oh?
[21-May-2009 14:31:54] <caseyh20> change part of your rrddeps.sh to look like this
[21-May-2009 14:31:57] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/ma669562
[21-May-2009 14:35:23] <skarphace> Does that need to be before the dep=freetype definition or after?
[21-May-2009 14:36:40] <caseyh20> well, it is a modified version of some of the code above the section where the dep= section is
[21-May-2009 14:37:58] <pgega> is it possible to add process monitor to the class rather than every single server ?
[21-May-2009 14:42:53] <caseyh20> skarphace: you find out where to put it?
[21-May-2009 14:46:33] <caseyh20> any idea what this is http://pastebin.com/m39d226e1
[21-May-2009 14:59:45] <pgega> i mean to add process monitor globally, because adding new process monitor to every server does not seem to be efficient
[21-May-2009 15:12:13] <rmatte> ok, I need some other eyes looking at this
[21-May-2009 15:12:14] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m42b2ba98
[21-May-2009 15:12:30] <rmatte> Anyone who is good at python, take a look and let me know if you see any issues with that
[21-May-2009 15:12:37] <rmatte> it doesn't want to load cleanly in to Zenoss
[21-May-2009 15:12:40] <rmatte> (transform)
[21-May-2009 15:13:11] <caseyh20> is that all of the code?
[21-May-2009 15:13:15] <rmatte> yes
[21-May-2009 15:14:36] <caseyh20> do you get a traceback?
[21-May-2009 15:15:05] <rmatte> no, I paste it in, click save, and it turns the text red, meaning something is wrong with it
[21-May-2009 15:16:54] <caseyh20> I don't see anything off, im not very good at python either though:P
[21-May-2009 15:21:09] <perr0> no word from skarphace?
[21-May-2009 15:21:35] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: where is the linux zenpack?
[21-May-2009 15:22:20] <mrayzenoss_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/linux-monitor
[21-May-2009 15:22:25] mrayzenoss_ is now known as mrayzenoss
[21-May-2009 15:22:39] <rocket> thanks
[21-May-2009 15:35:45] <caseyh20> Finally, I have 2.4.1 running on FreeBSD 7.2
[21-May-2009 15:36:15] <mrayzenoss> woohoo
[21-May-2009 15:36:24] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 15:40:39] <rmatte> hmm, Matt, this doesn't seem to work at all: for event in device.getEventManager().getEventList(where=wherestr):
[21-May-2009 15:41:09] <rmatte> just tested it in zendmd, did: print event.message, also tried print evt.message as well as summary for both, no output
[21-May-2009 15:41:21] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: nuts
[21-May-2009 15:41:40] <mrayzenoss> found that in the forums, I wonder if it worked at all?
[21-May-2009 15:41:50] <rmatte> no idea
[21-May-2009 15:44:08] <rmatte> I need to get this code working, I've got the design down, the code just isn't adequate apparently: http://pastebin.com/m42b2ba98
[21-May-2009 15:46:30] <perr0> caseyh20: how did that come about?
[21-May-2009 15:46:45] <perr0> did you have to use your modifications for 2.4?
[21-May-2009 15:47:04] <caseyh20> perr0: yeah
[21-May-2009 15:47:16] <caseyh20> um, It was really messy to say the lest
[21-May-2009 15:47:18] <caseyh20> least
[21-May-2009 15:47:34] <caseyh20> I didn't even use the rrddeps
[21-May-2009 15:47:46] <perr0> ?
[21-May-2009 15:51:39] <caseyh20> I downloaded each dep and installed it manually, then downloaded rrdtool and installed it, then blocked out everything in the zenoss makefile for rrdtool and It worked, cept for an error in guid.py that I fixed by extracting libzenoss/Products.tar.gz and editing uuid.uuid to uuid in the guid.py file and re-compressing it. now I have it installed and running but it can't access my mysql db and when I try to edit the mysql login settings I get a traceback
[21-May-2009 15:52:22] <caseyh20> to manually install rrdtool I used this website http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdbuild.en.html
[21-May-2009 15:52:31] <perr0> ya
[21-May-2009 15:52:47] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: RRDTool 1.3.7 or 1.3.5?
[21-May-2009 15:52:53] <caseyh20> 1.3.5
[21-May-2009 15:58:11] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/m6393b39c is what I get when I try to make any changes to mysql login settings
[21-May-2009 15:58:31] <perr0> caseyh20: you deserve a beer for your work
[21-May-2009 15:58:45] <caseyh20> I don't drink, lol
[21-May-2009 15:58:50] <perr0> root beer
[21-May-2009 15:59:03] <caseyh20> But I appreciate the jesture
[21-May-2009 15:59:04] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:00:33] <caseyh20> I am going to put up a detailed explanation of what I did on my blog, I am also going to see if I can't edit the installer script to work
[21-May-2009 16:00:42] <perr0> thank you
[21-May-2009 16:01:04] <caseyh20> no problem
[21-May-2009 16:01:05] <rmatte> don't drink? what fun is that?
[21-May-2009 16:01:08] <rmatte>
[21-May-2009 16:01:21] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:01:42] <perr0> I feel bad only being the cheerleader but we have a pen test and I am super busy
[21-May-2009 16:02:07] <rmatte> well then put on your pom poms and cheer on!
[21-May-2009 16:02:36] <perr0> rmatte: did you want pictures?
[21-May-2009 16:02:45] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:03:02] <rmatte> no thanks, I'll just use my imagination
[21-May-2009 16:03:24] <rmatte> I can just see perr0: "caseyh20 caseyh20 e so fine e so fine e blows our minds hey caseyh20!"
[21-May-2009 16:03:43] <rmatte> not sure if it'll really help with the coding though
[21-May-2009 16:03:56] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:04:02] <perr0> that song is outdated we need a more recent one
[21-May-2009 16:08:41] <pgega> hello again
[21-May-2009 16:15:06] <mrayzenoss> another fun meeting
[21-May-2009 16:36:43] <pgega> yeah returning to be question
[21-May-2009 16:37:05] <pgega> is it possible to add process monitor across multiple servers ?
[21-May-2009 16:37:13] <pgega> for example a class
[21-May-2009 16:58:39] <rmatte> pgega: you can add it globally, just click on "Services" on the left
[21-May-2009 16:58:58] <rmatte> enable it in there and it'll auto-apply it to any devices which it finds the process on when modelling them
[21-May-2009 17:01:32] <pgega> so the Services classes are not only for networking related serivces ie. http , ftp?
[21-May-2009 17:02:07] <pgega> i must monitor processes which do not listen on networking ports
[21-May-2009 17:17:57] <rmatte> it's for OS Processes as well
[21-May-2009 17:18:05] <rmatte> Which would be WinService
[21-May-2009 17:18:34] <rmatte> as long as you're monitoring them via SNMP, monitoring via WMI is a different story, but it should auto-discover them when modelling if you're taking that route
[21-May-2009 17:24:14] <pgega> rmatte, yes i am using snmp
[21-May-2009 17:24:34] <rmatte> then that's what you want
[21-May-2009 17:24:40] <rmatte> Services/WinServices
[21-May-2009 17:24:54] <pgega> so if i simply add some process to OSProcesses ,the process will be picked once zenoss will be remodeling devices ?
[21-May-2009 17:25:16] <rmatte> correct
[21-May-2009 17:25:51] * pgega missed some documentation chapter...
[21-May-2009 17:31:40] <pgega> rmatte,
[21-May-2009 17:31:53] <pgega> just run zenmodeler from commandline
[21-May-2009 17:32:01] <pgega> that was cool - thanks for that !
[21-May-2009 17:41:35] <rmatte> np
[21-May-2009 22:52:57] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[21-May-2009 22:53:18] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[21-May-2009 23:37:38] <raddy> Anybody out there???
[21-May-2009 23:44:50] <raddy> Anybody there???
[21-May-2009 23:56:40] <raddy> Anybody out there????
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[22-May-2009 00:09:56] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 00:10:04] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 00:10:45] <raddy> ZenJobs and ZenAcctions daemons occupying 100% CPU, in my multi-core server
[22-May-2009 00:14:33] <raddy> Anybody there????
[22-May-2009 00:25:50] <raddy> Anybody there???????
[22-May-2009 00:34:14] <raddy> Anybody there???????????????????????????
[22-May-2009 02:13:20] <raddy> Anybody out there?????
[22-May-2009 02:38:53] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 02:41:34] <Appiah_> hmm
[22-May-2009 02:42:05] <Appiah_> raddy: -!- Irssi: #zenoss: Total of 39 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 38 normal] , looks like people are here
[22-May-2009 03:01:59] <raddy> When i start zenaction and zenjobs daemon it uses 100% CPU in my multi-core server
[22-May-2009 03:02:06] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[22-May-2009 03:06:18] <Appiah_> try to elaborate and tell what version of zenoss you're running , what OS , and what jobs the daemon runs
[22-May-2009 03:06:40] <Appiah_> and not repeating "can anybody help" and such
[22-May-2009 03:07:10] <raddy> Appiah_: I dunno what jobs it is running, as log file is blank.
[22-May-2009 03:14:01] <raddy> Appiah_: I am using ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2.
[22-May-2009 03:35:18] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 03:35:51] <raddy> ZenOSS's Zenaction and Zenjobs occupies 100% CPU usage
[22-May-2009 03:36:02] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[22-May-2009 03:36:33] <raddy> I am running ZenOSS 2.4.1 on RHEL / CentOS 5.2.
[22-May-2009 03:52:47] <raddy> Anybody there???
[22-May-2009 04:02:42] <raddy> Anybody there??
[22-May-2009 04:11:58] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 05:05:47] <raddy> Anybody there?
[22-May-2009 05:18:30] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 05:19:23] <huggie> If anyone ever told you there was a ZenOSS community, they lied.
[22-May-2009 05:19:33] <huggie> There are sometimes people here US time on a Thursday.
[22-May-2009 05:19:45] <raddy> huggie : Ohhh
[22-May-2009 05:20:18] <raddy> huggie : there where one nice guy helping me in the morning too.
[22-May-2009 06:11:39] <raddy> Anybody there???
[22-May-2009 06:18:02] <rmatte> I am now
[22-May-2009 06:23:05] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[22-May-2009 06:23:36] <rmatte> hi
[22-May-2009 06:24:21] <raddy> rmatte : ZenAction and ZenJob occupying 100% CPU resources.
[22-May-2009 06:24:36] <raddy> rmatte : Can you help me in fixing it?
[22-May-2009 06:24:51] <rmatte> hmmm, have you checked the log files for those daemons?
[22-May-2009 06:24:59] <raddy> rmatte : i am running ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2
[22-May-2009 06:25:15] <rmatte> Settings/Daemons
[22-May-2009 06:25:24] <rmatte> then click on "view log" next to each daemon
[22-May-2009 06:25:30] <rmatte> look for anything strange in the logs
[22-May-2009 06:25:45] <raddy> rmatte : ZenJobs had empty log file, ZenAcctions had no interesting matter.
[22-May-2009 06:26:44] <rmatte> hmmm
[22-May-2009 06:26:52] <rmatte> check the zenhub one
[22-May-2009 06:27:09] <raddy> rmatte : Ohhh
[22-May-2009 06:28:53] <raddy> rmatte : there is some errors in it. shall pastebin it?
[22-May-2009 06:28:58] <rmatte> please
[22-May-2009 06:30:04] <raddy> rmatte : this one is recent error
[22-May-2009 06:30:07] <raddy> http://pastebin.com/m455c4df8
[22-May-2009 06:30:23] <raddy> rmatte : continously repeating.
[22-May-2009 06:31:04] <rmatte> well, that means one of your transforms is messed up, doubt that's causing the issue but you could go fix it
[22-May-2009 06:31:11] <rmatte> it's complaining about the indentation
[22-May-2009 06:31:20] <rmatte> you need to make sure that line 2 is properly indented
[22-May-2009 06:31:31] <raddy> rmatte : which line 2?
[22-May-2009 06:31:39] <raddy> http://pastebin.com/m5e1eb9dd
[22-May-2009 06:31:49] <raddy> rmatte : also check the above.
[22-May-2009 06:31:56] <rmatte> you have some transform on /Events/Status/OSProcess
[22-May-2009 06:32:18] <rmatte> yeh, same error
[22-May-2009 06:32:25] <rmatte> did you add any transforms lately?
[22-May-2009 06:33:18] <raddy> rmatte : yeah there is.
[22-May-2009 06:33:30] <rmatte> ok, so fix it
[22-May-2009 06:33:37] <rmatte> python is very specific about the indenting
[22-May-2009 06:33:50] <rmatte> it basically forces people to properly indent their code, which is nice
[22-May-2009 06:34:05] <rmatte> pastebin the actual transform and I'll tell you how to fix it
[22-May-2009 06:35:29] <raddy> rmatte : pastebin seems helping me to indent, still please check it out. http://pastebin.com/m77c7a285
[22-May-2009 06:36:49] <raddy> rmatte Don't spend time/
[22-May-2009 06:37:11] <raddy> rmatte : i think gwtrack_checker is non-existent now.
[22-May-2009 06:37:38] <raddy> rmatte : I'll temporarly remove the event transfor,
[22-May-2009 06:37:43] <raddy> tranform
[22-May-2009 06:39:42] <raddy> rmatte : How to rotate the log?
[22-May-2009 06:42:40] <rmatte> that last line need to be indented
[22-May-2009 06:43:07] <raddy> rmatte: NP. i removed the transform.
[22-May-2009 06:43:11] <rmatte> it rotates the logs automagically
[22-May-2009 06:43:24] <raddy> rmatte : BTW, i want to manually do it.
[22-May-2009 06:44:04] <rmatte> I'd imagine you'd just copy the current log file out and touch to create a new one
[22-May-2009 06:44:09] <rmatte> never done it
[22-May-2009 06:44:36] <raddy> rmatte : i also planning to do the same.
[22-May-2009 06:46:21] <raddy> rmatte : But, do think this is the reason for ZenAction and ZenJobs to use 100% CPU usage?
[22-May-2009 06:47:45] <rmatte> no idea
[22-May-2009 06:47:50] <rmatte> could be anything
[22-May-2009 06:48:03] <rmatte> are there any other scripts or processes using high CPU?
[22-May-2009 06:48:17] <raddy> rmatte : Nope.
[22-May-2009 06:48:37] <raddy> rmatte : i changed the port number for zoe i think
[22-May-2009 06:50:21] <raddy> rmatte : will that be reason.
[22-May-2009 06:52:19] <rmatte> nope
[22-May-2009 07:10:00] <raddy> rmatte : the CPU Usage issue still exists.
[22-May-2009 07:16:35] <rmatte> I have no idea what's causing that, you'll have to speak with a Zenoss dev or something
[22-May-2009 07:16:52] <rmatte> If it started recently, did you change anything?
[22-May-2009 07:43:44] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[22-May-2009 07:44:02] <raddy> rmatte : Yeah, i changed port setting
[22-May-2009 07:44:32] <rmatte> and the problem started right after?
[22-May-2009 07:44:47] <rmatte> (if you think it's the port, just change it back and see if it solves the problem)
[22-May-2009 07:44:56] <raddy> rmatte : seems so, and i recently upgrade zenoss
[22-May-2009 07:45:11] <rmatte> could have something to do with the upgrade as well
[22-May-2009 07:51:03] <raddy> Any ZenOSS experts devs there?
[22-May-2009 08:44:03] <rmatte> Whenever someone has a second: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9849
[22-May-2009 09:12:29] <idi> hi
[22-May-2009 09:12:58] <idi> please i want to know if after installing zenoss and the agent
[22-May-2009 09:13:15] <idi> and after do the correct configuration of snmpd.conf
[22-May-2009 09:14:57] <idi> i must have laLoadInt1 memBuffer memCached ....;. all the service detected automatically after add my host to monitor "" up""?
[22-May-2009 09:15:01] <idi> ???????
[22-May-2009 09:16:23] <idi> no one have an answer??
[22-May-2009 09:18:00] <perr0> I don't have it
[22-May-2009 09:18:20] <perr0> is is showing up in zenoss?
[22-May-2009 09:18:57] <idi> yes after i have added my host
[22-May-2009 09:19:26] <idi> a have found on the details of my device
[22-May-2009 09:19:31] <idi> all this services
[22-May-2009 09:19:37] <idi> but not up
[22-May-2009 09:21:37] <idi> one i select the details i have found this message
[22-May-2009 09:22:10] <idi> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on xxxxx(oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[22-May-2009 09:23:44] <rmatte> you're polling an OID that's not supported on that device
[22-May-2009 09:24:58] <idi> how can i got the correct oid
[22-May-2009 09:25:35] <idi> ???
[22-May-2009 09:34:40] <perr0> what os are you running?
[22-May-2009 09:37:49] <idi> ubuntu 8.04
[22-May-2009 09:48:10] <perr0> I am not too familiar with Ubuntu or if OIDs are related between Linux systems
[22-May-2009 09:48:15] <perr0> have you searched google?
[22-May-2009 09:48:17] <perr0> http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-howto-2-system-monitoring-via.html
[22-May-2009 09:50:28] <idi> yes i have searched in google
[22-May-2009 09:50:57] <idi> i haven't installed net-snmp but snmpd
[22-May-2009 09:51:58] <idi> even that zenoss concider the "" HW Model Net-SNMP Agent""
[22-May-2009 09:52:00] <idi> !!!!!
[22-May-2009 09:52:34] <idi> thanks perr0 for the links
[22-May-2009 09:52:37] <idi>
[22-May-2009 09:58:14] <perr0> is the same thing, the snmpd is the damon for net-snmp
[22-May-2009 09:58:22] <perr0> daemon*
[22-May-2009 09:58:50] <perr0> did the link help?
[22-May-2009 10:01:25] <idi> he is helpfull if i will restart the install of the agent
[22-May-2009 10:01:28] <idi>
[22-May-2009 10:02:28] <idi> perr0 when i execute the command snmpwalk -v 1 -c "community" target_name_or_ip .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4
[22-May-2009 10:02:43] <idi> i got "end of mib"
[22-May-2009 10:03:13] <idi> and when i excute the command snmpget -v 1 -c "community" target_name_or_ip .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.7.0
[22-May-2009 10:03:39] <idi> i got ""Error in packet Reason: (noSuchName) There is no such variable name in this MIB. Failed object: UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskAvail.1""
[22-May-2009 10:03:51] <idi> ???
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total Swap Size: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.3.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Available Swap Space: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM in machine: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.5.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM used: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM Free: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.11.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:33] <perr0> Total RAM Shared: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.13.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:35] <perr0> Total RAM Buffered: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:37] <perr0> Total Cached Memory: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.15.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:56] <perr0> sorry for the paste
[22-May-2009 10:09:18] <perr0> looks like that oid is bad?
[22-May-2009 10:09:22] <perr0> try the above
[22-May-2009 10:09:25] <idi> yes
[22-May-2009 10:11:19] <idi> i have tried and i have the same answer
[22-May-2009 10:11:20] <idi> error
[22-May-2009 10:11:25] <idi>
[22-May-2009 10:21:57] <perr0> zap skarphace how is coming along?
[22-May-2009 11:49:38] <rmatte> good afternoon Matt
[22-May-2009 11:49:51] <mrayzenoss> still got 11 more minutes of morning
[22-May-2009 11:49:58] <rmatte> not here
[22-May-2009 11:50:07] <rmatte> 12:43pm
[22-May-2009 11:50:14] <rmatte> I'm guessing you're an hour ahead
[22-May-2009 11:50:21] <mrayzenoss> and 6 minutes?
[22-May-2009 11:50:21] <rmatte> actually, my clock on my computer is off...
[22-May-2009 11:50:26] <mrayzenoss> heh
[22-May-2009 11:50:43] * rmatte executes "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov"
[22-May-2009 11:51:18] <rmatte> hmmm, and it's still off, odd
[22-May-2009 11:51:41] <rmatte> ah there we go
[22-May-2009 11:52:01] <rmatte> would Chet happen to be around at all?
[22-May-2009 11:52:28] <mrayzenoss> I think I heard he was upgrading one of our larger customers today
[22-May-2009 11:52:36] <rmatte> I need input on that script that I was working on yesterday, he'll probably know some better way of doing what I'm trying to do
[22-May-2009 11:52:38] <rmatte> ah
[22-May-2009 11:52:56] <rmatte> I posted it on the forums like you said
[22-May-2009 11:53:00] <rmatte> so whenever
[22-May-2009 11:53:03] <mrayzenoss> I'll ping him on it when I ask him about that event transform he had mentioned
[22-May-2009 11:53:16] <rmatte> sounds good, appreciate it
[22-May-2009 11:58:54] <rmatte> we finally got our lab box up and running today, woot
[22-May-2009 11:59:05] <rmatte> now I can actually do some real testing
[22-May-2009 11:59:42] <rmatte> still need to rack and configure a whole bunch of network equipment for the lab though
[22-May-2009 12:00:50] <rmatte> we had the lab box and a bunch of virtual machines running on it in a particular subnet when we discovered that that particular subnet was actually being used for client tunnels, so we had to re-assign IPs to everything (which we are still working on)
[22-May-2009 13:06:50] <rmatte> can I export my entire /Events tree to a zenpack and have it install cleanly on another Zenoss server?
[22-May-2009 13:07:13] <rmatte> or will the fact that the other server already has some of those event categories on it cause issues?
[22-May-2009 13:45:30] <rmatte> hey Matt...
[22-May-2009 13:46:43] <rmatte> I was thinking about that bug ticket that I logged about the Linux monitoring... they are requesting a patch but a patch isn't even necessary, all that's needed is to add the /Linux/SSH group by default and just bind those plugins to it, that would essentially resolve the issue.
[22-May-2009 14:35:28] <mrayzenoss> I am trying to get all the Core ZenPacks bundled into the installers
[22-May-2009 16:36:12] <gemineye> I have a zencommand question. What should the format of the output of a zencommand be to pull multiple data sources?
[22-May-2009 17:24:58] <gemineye> Anyone awake?
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[23-May-2009 06:00:41] <pgega> Hello
[23-May-2009 11:26:26] <afink> Hello everyone, I have been having trouble getting centos performance graphs to show in zenoss, They worked out of the box on my suse machines. Is there a software package that I don't have possibly?
[23-May-2009 11:27:31] <afink> brb
[23-May-2009 12:01:05] <afink> Hello everyone, I have been having trouble getting centos performance graphs to show in zenoss, They worked out of the box on my suse machines. Is there a software package that I don't have possibly?
[23-May-2009 12:10:55] <perr0> the only package I can think of is snmp
[23-May-2009 12:11:19] <perr0> rpm -qa |grep snmp
[23-May-2009 12:11:29] <perr0> to be exact it would be net-snmp
[23-May-2009 14:22:11] <rhettlap> make sure you can snmpwalk the devices from the server and from the zenoss console
[23-May-2009 14:22:16] <rhettlap> it maybe an snmp version problem
[23-May-2009 14:28:34] <afink> I do have net-snmp, and can snmp walk the devices
[23-May-2009 14:28:40] <afink> must be a version problem
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[24-May-2009 00:23:59] <dprophit> just installed this vmware file. The dhcp IP given is not even showing up on my linksys router table
[24-May-2009 02:14:27] <blackgraz> can anyone point me to how to have zenoss populate HW info and net traffic on debian
[24-May-2009 02:15:14] <caseyh20> whats going on everybody?
[24-May-2009 02:30:25] <blackgraz> ?
[24-May-2009 02:30:57] <caseyh20> just asking whats up
[24-May-2009 02:31:46] <blackgraz> wondering why my shit is not populating
[24-May-2009 02:32:03] <caseyh20> lol
[24-May-2009 02:32:09] <caseyh20> what version you running?
[24-May-2009 02:32:33] <blackgraz> latest on debian
[24-May-2009 02:32:59] <blackgraz> i installed the deb from the website then zenoss-stack
[24-May-2009 02:33:23] <blackgraz> installed core from the website....
[24-May-2009 02:34:17] <caseyh20> have you checked trac to see if there are any bugs for your issue?
[24-May-2009 02:34:29] <blackgraz> not yet
[24-May-2009 02:34:48] <blackgraz> just needed to be pointed to the right direction i guess
[24-May-2009 02:36:02] <blackgraz> byebye
[24-May-2009 04:24:17] <rhettlap> if you're using snmp monitoring verify you can snmpwalk the device by going to said device, go to the menu, go to run commands and then select snmpwalk
[24-May-2009 04:25:24] <rhettlap> also make sure all of the zenoss daemons are running but go to settings and the daemons tab or using service zenoss status (or /etc/init.d/zenoss status)
[24-May-2009 04:26:54] <rhettlap> the grammar is screwed up there but i assume you can figure out what i was trying to say
[24-May-2009 04:27:09] <rhettlap> on that note i am going to bed
[24-May-2009 05:13:48] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[24-May-2009 05:14:00] <raddy> I have two major problems.
[24-May-2009 05:14:40] <raddy> 1: zenactions and zenjobs occupies 100% CPU utilization when started.
[24-May-2009 05:15:32] <raddy> 2: Can't remove ApacheMonitor ZenPack
[24-May-2009 05:17:03] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[24-May-2009 05:24:40] <raddy> Anybody there?
[24-May-2009 06:26:40] <pgega> Hi
[24-May-2009 06:40:33] <pgega> are there any plans to add improved search to performance graphs ?
[24-May-2009 06:41:18] <pgega> for example something like cacti - based on date ranges
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[24-May-2009 17:36:18] <rsFF> while reading the zenpack for vmware virtual machines it says i need to create a device organizer
[24-May-2009 17:36:25] <rsFF> where is that in the dashboard
[24-May-2009 17:36:26] <rsFF> ?
[24-May-2009 18:28:01] <rsFF> im not getting cpu clock stats in a vmware host
[24-May-2009 18:28:06] <rsFF> do i need some zenpack
[24-May-2009 18:28:21] <rsFF> is the ESX one also suitable for a normal virtual machine??
[24-May-2009 21:52:06] <rhettlap> uncertain. i dont personally use vmware
[24-May-2009 22:32:30] <rsFF> rhettlap: could u help me out on using zenpacks
[24-May-2009 22:32:38] <rsFF> its a litlle bit confusing
[24-May-2009 23:37:23] <rsFF> im getting a lot of missing RRD file xxxxx
[24-May-2009 23:37:30] <rsFF> is that normal?
[24-May-2009 23:53:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-May-2009 23:53:48] <raddy> Anybody there?
[24-May-2009 23:54:08] <raddy> I have three Zenoss related issues.
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[25-May-2009 00:03:30] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[25-May-2009 00:03:56] <raddy> rmatte : I have some problems in ZenOSS and was waiting for you.
[25-May-2009 00:04:04] <raddy> rmatte : are you there?
[25-May-2009 00:19:26] <raddy> rmatte : Are you there?
[25-May-2009 00:46:16] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 01:00:25] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 02:32:53] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 02:47:18] <raddy> rsFF: Hi
[25-May-2009 02:49:46] <raddy> Anybody there???
[25-May-2009 03:23:18] <Appiah> better to just state your problem
[25-May-2009 03:23:25] <Appiah> instead of asking if they are here
[25-May-2009 07:50:36] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 08:11:52] <Appiah> alot of people in here
[25-May-2009 08:12:11] <Appiah> just ask your question , state your problem , dont flood the channel asking if anybody is here
[25-May-2009 08:12:23] <Appiah> like... 3rd day in a row?
[25-May-2009 08:13:05] <raddy> Appiah : I have already asked my question previously.
[25-May-2009 08:13:13] <raddy> Appiah : I'll rephrase.
[25-May-2009 08:14:09] <raddy> I am using ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2-64 Edition.
[25-May-2009 08:14:50] <raddy> ZenJobs and ZenActions occupies 100% CPU usage when started
[25-May-2009 08:15:50] <raddy> So i have not started it.
[25-May-2009 08:18:43] <raddy> Can anybody provide me solution?
[25-May-2009 08:31:00] <Appiah> what does the log for ZenJobs and ZenActions say?
[25-May-2009 08:31:03] <Appiah> logs*
[25-May-2009 08:31:23] <raddy> Appiah : Nothing interesting.
[25-May-2009 08:31:36] <raddy> Appiah : ZenJobs log is empty.
[25-May-2009 08:31:52] <raddy> Appiah : ZenActions doesn't show any errors
[25-May-2009 09:21:43] <rmatte> shouldn't putting a device in a state of "Decommed" automatically stop monitoring it?
[25-May-2009 09:29:59] <rmatte> ah nevermind
[25-May-2009 10:01:09] <rmatte> ok, so I have a server with SNMP enabled on it, when I do an snmpwalk I can see the info for hard disks, interfaces, software, etc... When I model the device in Zenoss, it says that it's processing a bunch of snmp collector plugins but then quickly says "No change in configuration detected" right after, and never collects any info.
[25-May-2009 10:01:14] <rmatte> any ideas on what might be wrong?
[25-May-2009 10:32:59] <aburgel> hello
[25-May-2009 10:33:59] <aburgel> got a question about zenoss & mysql... anyone around?
[25-May-2009 10:35:46] <perr0> why don't you just ask and see if anyone is around?
[25-May-2009 10:36:06] <aburgel> k
[25-May-2009 10:36:44] <aburgel> zenoss is opening and then immediately closing a connection to one of my mysql instances
[25-May-2009 10:36:53] <perr0> usually is active but I am assuming is quiet cause of the holiday
[25-May-2009 10:37:06] <rmatte> Hope this gets looked at/fixed by the time 2.4.2 or 2.4.3 roll around: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/5070
[25-May-2009 10:37:43] <aburgel> not sure why zenoss is doing this, but it causes mysql to block connections from my zenoss server
[25-May-2009 10:38:01] <perr0> aburgel: is this a new install?
[25-May-2009 10:38:16] <aburgel> i thought it was the mysql zenpack template, but i turned it off and its still happening
[25-May-2009 10:38:27] <aburgel> not a new install
[25-May-2009 10:38:37] <aburgel> i've been having it for a while
[25-May-2009 10:39:00] <aburgel> first on 2.3, then i upgraded to 2.4.1 in hopes that it would go away, but its still happening
[25-May-2009 10:39:32] <aburgel> i've been monitoring with tcpdump, and i see a connection every minute that immediately closes
[25-May-2009 10:39:48] <aburgel> so i'm not sure which part of zenoss is doing this
[25-May-2009 10:41:11] <perr0> so it just happened all of a sudden of was this after you install the mysql zenpack?
[25-May-2009 10:42:24] <aburgel> i think after installing the zenpack, but i'm not 100% sure
[25-May-2009 10:42:36] <HugoDaniel> hi
[25-May-2009 10:42:40] <HugoDaniel> im about to try zenoss
[25-May-2009 10:43:03] <aburgel> i don't have an IPService on that device for mysql, but i do have an OSProcess for mysql
[25-May-2009 10:44:14] <perr0> aburgel: when you login to zenoss do you get an "Unable to connect to the MySQL server."?
[25-May-2009 10:44:26] <aburgel> no
[25-May-2009 10:44:38] <aburgel> this is a different mysql server
[25-May-2009 10:44:48] <aburgel> not the one used by zenoss for event logging
[25-May-2009 10:45:17] <perr0> got it
[25-May-2009 10:46:44] <aburgel> i think it could be zenstatus, but i have no idea how to confirm this, or to fix it
[25-May-2009 10:49:56] <perr0> aburgel: did you give zenoss the access to your MySQL server?
[25-May-2009 10:50:49] <aburgel> for the zenpack, yes. but i don't think its possible to configure zenstatus with a mysql login
[25-May-2009 10:51:06] <aburgel> but like i said, i disabled the zenpack and the problem still happens
[25-May-2009 11:07:02] <aburgel> if an IPService is not 'monitored', does that mean that zenoss still tries to connect, but just ignores the result? or does it mean that it doesn't try to connect at all?
[25-May-2009 11:11:56] <rmatte> it won't try to connect at all
[25-May-2009 11:12:31] <rmatte> and when modelling, it performs a portscan on the device and sees if any of the ports have been defined in Services, if so, then it adds it and starts monitoring it
[25-May-2009 11:15:01] <aburgel> is there any other part of zenoss that would connect to a port on a monitored device every minute? aside from zenstatus and a zenpack?
[25-May-2009 11:20:15] <rmatte> nope
[25-May-2009 11:21:37] <aburgel> i've removed the mysql IPService from zenoss, that seems to have stopped the connections (even though monitored=false), i'll play around with it some more to see if i can figure out what was wrong. i'll be back if i find something interesting
[25-May-2009 11:21:44] <aburgel> thanks for everyone's help
[25-May-2009 12:59:07] <rmatte> is there any quick way to remove Zenoss on Ubuntu?
[25-May-2009 12:59:15] <rmatte> I thought it added an entry to aptitude but apparently not
[25-May-2009 13:01:04] <rmatte> nevermind, found the uninstall script
[25-May-2009 15:02:50] <rmatte> weird, the whole "import Globals" thing doesn't work to create standalone python scripts in 2.4.1 anymore?
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> zenoss@Base-Image:/mspfiles/scripts/tools/hosts$ ./hosts.py
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 2: import: command not found
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> from: can't read /var/mail/Products.ZenUtils.ZenScriptBase
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> from: can't read /var/mail/transaction
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[25-May-2009 15:03:10] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 6: `dmd = ZenScriptBase(connect=True).dmd'
[25-May-2009 15:03:30] <rmatte> same script works perfectly fine with 2.3.3
[25-May-2009 15:08:55] <rmatte> ah nevermind, it's because of how I wrote that particular script, I forgot about something
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[26-May-2009 00:41:16] <alie> hallow
[26-May-2009 05:53:59] <mara> morning
[26-May-2009 05:55:04] <mara> i have installed zenoss 2.4.1 and i have configured my agent
[26-May-2009 05:55:36] <mara> my problem is when i model my device
[26-May-2009 05:56:24] <mara> i get this "" No Python plugins found for xxxxxxx""
[26-May-2009 05:56:39] <mara> even i have installed python
[26-May-2009 05:56:55] <mara> any one have an answer???
[26-May-2009 08:32:09] <ctaloi> hey all - quick question, have a node with two SNMP agents on it (one hardware (sun) and one software (vendor provided)) The hardware agent is running on the standard port and the vendor agent is running on a non-standard port - how can I configure my device in Zenoss to use both agents?
[26-May-2009 09:05:03] <jb> do you guys know if traps such as "alertVirtualDiskWarning" are used across the industry.. or is it a dell specific trap?
[26-May-2009 10:11:20] <rocket> Morning Matt
[26-May-2009 10:11:26] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[26-May-2009 10:43:04] <Dieterbe> Hi, i installed the mysql monitor zenpack in a brand new zenoss core installation on debian. i restarted zenoss, and the zenpack shows up fine under "zenpacks" in the web interface. however, i cannot figure out how to apply the mysql monitoring to some hosts
[26-May-2009 10:44:03] <mrayzenoss> have you checked out the Extended Monitoring Guide chapter 11?
[26-May-2009 10:44:09] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[26-May-2009 10:45:08] <Dieterbe> aha, no i haven't. thanks
[26-May-2009 10:45:27] <mrayzenoss> no prob, it's a new doc with the 2.4 release
[26-May-2009 10:47:04] <rmatte> has anyone seen this error before when trying to save on a device edit tab?
[26-May-2009 10:47:06] <rmatte> Value: Empty entry when <strong>integer</strong> expected
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> Traceback (innermost last):
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 76, in publish
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 530, in processInputs
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.Converters, line 63, in field2int
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> ValueError: Empty entry when <strong>integer</strong> expected
[26-May-2009 10:47:29] <rmatte> one of our Zenoss servers crashed and now it's doing that
[26-May-2009 10:51:43] <rmatte> anyone alive?
[26-May-2009 10:52:42] <rmatte> ah, it's because the rack slot value isn't populate now for some reason
[26-May-2009 10:54:21] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5011
[26-May-2009 10:54:57] <rmatte> yeh, I read that, the problem is that it wasn't doing that before
[26-May-2009 10:55:10] <rmatte> the server crashed because it ran out of disk space
[26-May-2009 10:55:16] <mrayzenoss> we've got a lot of tickets about fixing validation, we're slowly chewing through them
[26-May-2009 10:55:18] <rmatte> after I brought it back up it started doing this
[26-May-2009 10:55:23] <Dieterbe> btw, i have a brandnew zenoss core installation on debian (installed with the official .deb), the 2.4 one. I added some Server/Linux boxes, it can connect with snmp fine, but in "perf" the rrd graphs say "MISSING RRD FILE" is this a known problem? or do i have to wait longer? the install is 20 minutes old or so (and only monitors 2 servers)
[26-May-2009 10:55:46] <rmatte> I need to use zendmd to repopulate the rack slot value to 0 for all devices, any idea how I'd go about doing that?
[26-May-2009 10:55:57] <Dieterbe> the graph for "load average" that is, cpu/memory/io just show no graph at all
[26-May-2009 10:56:04] <Dieterbe> no image at all, i mean
[26-May-2009 10:56:39] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: some graphs are showing, but not all?
[26-May-2009 10:57:49] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: sorry let me rephrase. "load average" shows an rrd image, but no graph. it says "MISSING RRD FILE". cpu, memory and io show even no image
[26-May-2009 10:57:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: something like http://www.zenoss.com/Members/shaskell/useful-zendmd-scripts/
[26-May-2009 10:58:36] <rmatte> Dieterbe: i'd wait another 10 minutes or so, if they don't load by then then you have an issue, also, go in to the event console, and use the dropdown in the center to select "Debug" to check for debug messages
[26-May-2009 10:59:40] <rmatte> mrayzenoss: any idea what device variable represents the rack slot?
[26-May-2009 10:59:42] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: the reset bindings script could be repurposed to dev.rackSlot='0' or something
[26-May-2009 11:00:20] <mrayzenoss> looking at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.4.0/ZenModel.Device-module.html
[26-May-2009 11:00:22] <rmatte> is dev.rackSlot a valid value though?
[26-May-2009 11:00:33] <mrayzenoss> I dunno, try it in zendmd
[26-May-2009 11:00:43] <mrayzenoss> just pull 1 device and set it to '5' or something
[26-May-2009 11:00:47] <mrayzenoss> commit it and check the UI
[26-May-2009 11:00:58] <mrayzenoss> if that works, set all of them to 0
[26-May-2009 11:02:54] <rmatte> k
[26-May-2009 11:04:33] <rmatte> device.rackSlot doesn't work
[26-May-2009 11:06:48] <rmatte> I've also tried just device.slot and device.rack
[26-May-2009 11:07:37] <rmatte> it's supposed to be rackSlot from what I googled
[26-May-2009 11:10:28] <rmatte> but it's not working
[26-May-2009 11:12:23] <rmatte> this should be working, what the hell
[26-May-2009 11:12:46] <rmatte> ah, I needed to commit()
[26-May-2009 11:12:48] <rmatte> good
[26-May-2009 11:14:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, rackSlot was what the API had
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> >>> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> ... d.rackSlot=0
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> ...
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> >>> commit()
[26-May-2009 11:15:20] <rmatte> that worked
[26-May-2009 11:15:26] <mrayzenoss> cool
[26-May-2009 11:15:36] <rmatte> thanks
[26-May-2009 11:16:06] <mrayzenoss> glad I got it right
[26-May-2009 11:17:00] <Dieterbe> I still have "missing rrd file" in my 'load average' image and cpu, memory and io show still no image at all. the mysql graphs from the mysql zenpack work fine
[26-May-2009 11:18:06] <rmatte> hehe
[26-May-2009 11:25:46] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: you're sure SNMP is working against those boxes? check the $ZENHOME/perf directory permissions for the host that's not updating
[26-May-2009 11:25:48] <Dieterbe> http://www.nopaste.pl/cl0 here's my event log
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-xr-x 4 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:48 .
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxrwxr-x 15 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 17:30 ..
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-xr-x 3 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:03 Daemons
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-x--- 3 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:48 Devices
[26-May-2009 11:29:12] <mrayzenoss> hmm... I wonder what's up with /tmp/renderserver
[26-May-2009 11:29:49] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: try shutting down zenoss and seeing if /tmp/renderserver goes away. If it doesn't delete it
[26-May-2009 11:29:51] <mrayzenoss> and restart
[26-May-2009 11:30:52] <Dieterbe> /tmp/renderserver is empty (not restarted yet)
[26-May-2009 11:30:59] <mrayzenoss> check the permissions
[26-May-2009 11:31:28] <mrayzenoss> found this reference to it: http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc/archives/irc-feb-2007
[26-May-2009 11:31:41] <mrayzenoss> someone had permissions issues with it 2 years ago
[26-May-2009 11:32:02] <Dieterbe> ls -alh /tmp/renderserver
[26-May-2009 11:32:03] <Dieterbe> drwxr-x--- 2 zenoss zenoss 1.0K 2009-05-26 18:27 .
[26-May-2009 11:32:03] <Dieterbe> drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 9.0K 2009-05-26 18:27 ..
[26-May-2009 11:33:32] <mrayzenoss> weird, that's what mine's set to (Debian 5)
[26-May-2009 11:36:09] <Dieterbe> ok i restarted my zenoss now
[26-May-2009 11:38:11] <Dieterbe> still the same problem :/
[26-May-2009 11:40:11] <Dieterbe> and getting the exacty same error in the event log as well
[26-May-2009 11:40:25] <Dieterbe> 2009-05-26T18:39:38 ERROR RenderServer Failed to generate a graph
[26-May-2009 11:40:26] <Dieterbe> Traceback (most recent call last):
[26-May-2009 11:40:26] <Dieterbe> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.py", line 190, in render
[26-May-2009 11:40:29] <Dieterbe> rrdtool.graph(*gopts)
[26-May-2009 11:40:31] <Dieterbe> error
[26-May-2009 11:43:12] <Dieterbe> hmm googling that error gives me 1 person with the same problem, but no fix http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=33808
[26-May-2009 11:46:40] <Dieterbe> aha. debug messages say stuff like this: Error reading value for "memBuffer" on 127.0.0.1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[26-May-2009 11:47:21] <Dieterbe> however, i installed snmpd on debian, verified that the listen address is correct, and it shows up in netstat so it's listening
[26-May-2009 11:47:30] <Dieterbe> it's even localhost, btw
[26-May-2009 11:47:44] <Dieterbe> so it should just connect to 127.0.0.1
[26-May-2009 11:48:34] <Dieterbe> this command `snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 127.0.0.1 system` also works fine
[26-May-2009 11:49:43] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: any more ideas?
[26-May-2009 12:10:36] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: never mind i fixed it. i regenerated my snmp config and now it works
[26-May-2009 12:10:49] <Dieterbe> thanks for your help btw, you too rmatte
[26-May-2009 12:33:39] <baffle> rmatte: Hi, remember me with the broken DB?
[26-May-2009 12:33:56] <baffle> rmatte: Last time we talked, you had some ideas on who might be able to help me. Who was that again?
[26-May-2009 12:43:01] <baffle> I have some broken objects in my ZODB, wich makes (among other things) ToManyRelationship.py and ToManyContRelationship.py barf.
[26-May-2009 12:43:10] <baffle> I need to find out how to remove these.
[26-May-2009 12:44:51] <baffle> Example: http://paste2.org/p/226517
[26-May-2009 12:53:00] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog/
[26-May-2009 12:53:20] <mrayzenoss> or try doing a reindex() first
[26-May-2009 12:58:38] <daMaestro> does anyone know if there is a way to properly rename a device? aka.. so zenoss actually renames the storage location for all of the rrd data?
[26-May-2009 12:59:09] <daMaestro> say we have device a.b.c.example.org and we want to change it to a.b.v.example.org ... when we issue a rename.. both folders for rrd data remain
[26-May-2009 12:59:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: reindex() explodes.
[26-May-2009 12:59:38] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I've tried fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog allready.
[26-May-2009 13:01:11] <baffle> mrayzenoss: reindex() results in http://paste2.org/p/226529
[26-May-2009 13:02:07] <baffle> Right now I have some patches in ToManyContRelationship.py that ignores the broken objects so that zenmodeller ++ will (somewhat) work, but I hit bugs like this all over. Yay. :-)
[26-May-2009 13:03:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: The main problem is probably an old attempt at a ZenPack that never worked. Most code is here: http://open.eunet.no/Products_Xscf.tgz
[26-May-2009 13:08:25] <rocket> baffle: can you go to http://<server>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage ?
[26-May-2009 13:08:42] <rocket> enter the administrator user name and password if it prompts
[26-May-2009 13:09:08] <baffle> rocket: 1 sec.
[26-May-2009 13:09:24] <rocket> click on packs ..
[26-May-2009 13:11:02] <baffle> rocket: I've deleted the reference to the Xscf pack there allready. :-/ I did it last time I tried to fix this, with the help of rmatte.
[26-May-2009 13:11:39] <jb> sup rocket
[26-May-2009 13:11:45] <baffle> rocket: But, hmm, right now I have my patches in place to ignore the broken objects, might it be hidden in this view?
[26-May-2009 13:11:59] <rocket> baffle: do you have any devices you modelled with that zenpack?
[26-May-2009 13:12:06] <baffle> rocket: Yes, probably.
[26-May-2009 13:12:13] <rocket> baffle: you might need to remodel or remove them to make this go away
[26-May-2009 13:12:19] <rocket> jb: not much and you?
[26-May-2009 13:12:57] <rocket> baffle: one thing you could do is backup your perf directory and your mysql database of events
[26-May-2009 13:13:04] <rmatte> I'm pretty sure I asked this before, but can anyone confirm that the issue of model names showing up as OID values even though there is an associated product in the product section issue fixed in 2.4.1?
[26-May-2009 13:13:12] <rocket> do a fresh install and then restore the mysql db and perf entries
[26-May-2009 13:13:13] <jb> rocket: ah nothing.. hows the pack coming?
[26-May-2009 13:13:31] <rocket> jb: its coming I submitted a work in progress to matt late last week
[26-May-2009 13:13:46] <jb> cool
[26-May-2009 13:13:49] <jb> any new features?
[26-May-2009 13:14:05] <rocket> baffle: you would then obviously have to add back in the devices you wish to monitor etc
[26-May-2009 13:14:31] <rocket> baffle: thats probably the worst case solution etc if you cant start over ..
[26-May-2009 13:14:41] <baffle> rocket: Actually, it seems the devices that was modelled using this pack has allready been removed.. Probably due to http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog/ or simmilar.
[26-May-2009 13:15:08] <baffle> rocket: I have 400 devices, with lots of custom templates and checks, not really possible.
[26-May-2009 13:15:17] <baffle> Hmm, more that 400 devices.
[26-May-2009 13:16:03] <rocket> jb: sure there are
[26-May-2009 13:16:35] <baffle> What I probably need to do is to unregister Products.Xscf.XscfDevice somehow.
[26-May-2009 13:17:49] <rocket> baffle: does zendump work?
[26-May-2009 13:17:49] <jb> oh yeah?
[26-May-2009 13:18:14] <rocket> jb: wrote a basic version of a predictive threshold zenpack for it ..
[26-May-2009 13:18:41] <rocket> jb: it does print queues, printers, hard disks, cards,
[26-May-2009 13:18:42] <baffle> rocket: Yeah, I imported my broken ZODB from another instance.
[26-May-2009 13:19:07] <rocket> baffle: can you grep the dump for XscfDevice for me?
[26-May-2009 13:19:37] <baffle> rocket: I'll unpack and check.
[26-May-2009 13:19:46] <jb> ah cool
[26-May-2009 13:19:54] <baffle> rocket: Like zenbackup/repozo/2009-05-19-15-00-17.fs ?
[26-May-2009 13:20:17] <baffle> Like in, I mean.
[26-May-2009 13:20:30] <rocket> baffle: try that .. it should have a bunch of xml in it
[26-May-2009 13:21:18] <baffle> rocket: I find references, yeah.
[26-May-2009 13:21:32] <rocket> baffle: can you paste bin them?
[26-May-2009 13:22:10] <rocket> jb: tape devices, cdroms, printer, ... working on lparinfo .. eg the profile information
[26-May-2009 13:22:12] <baffle> rocket: It's binary, should I just paste the strings or some content around it or..?
[26-May-2009 13:22:35] <rocket> baffle: can you just run zendump?
[26-May-2009 13:22:59] <baffle> Oh, right, I was looking at the backup. Sorry1
[26-May-2009 13:24:01] <baffle> s/1/oneone/
[26-May-2009 13:26:14] <baffle> rocket: Still dumping.
[26-May-2009 13:26:29] <rocket> baffle: I assume you redirected it to a file?
[26-May-2009 13:26:37] <rocket> zendump > /tmp/x for example
[26-May-2009 13:27:58] <baffle> rocket: I used -o ?
[26-May-2009 13:28:07] <rocket> baffle: that works too
[26-May-2009 13:29:13] <rocket> baffle: you might be able to use the --ignore relation too .. I havent used that before .. but you might be able to say zendump -o foo --ignore=Products.Xscf.XscfDevice
[26-May-2009 13:29:34] <baffle> rocket: Yay, it died.
[26-May-2009 13:29:35] <rocket> and it will create a new zeo database you could import basically
[26-May-2009 13:29:49] <rocket> it died as is Traceback?
[26-May-2009 13:29:49] <baffle> rocket: I'll try to do that now.
[26-May-2009 13:29:53] <baffle> rocket: Yes.
[26-May-2009 13:30:00] <rocket> what was the Trace?
[26-May-2009 13:30:13] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226548
[26-May-2009 13:30:40] <baffle> I'll try to make a dump with --ignore now.
[26-May-2009 13:31:39] <rocket> baffle: otherwise I might have a patch for you to try to get a clean dump
[26-May-2009 13:32:15] suse is now known as Guest39152
[26-May-2009 13:33:36] <baffle> rocket: Great.. It's 2/3 to where it crashed last time (judging by filesize..)
[26-May-2009 13:35:38] <baffle> rocket: Yeah, it died again.
[26-May-2009 13:36:21] <rocket> baffle: in ToManyRelationship.py
[26-May-2009 13:36:22] <rocket> def objectIdsAll(self):
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> Return object ids as their absolute primaryId.~
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 13:36:25] <rocket> objs=[]
[26-May-2009 13:36:27] <rocket> for obj in self._objects:
[26-May-2009 13:36:30] <rocket> if hasattr(obj,'getPrimaryId'):
[26-May-2009 13:36:32] <rocket> objs.append((obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:36:35] <rocket> return objs
[26-May-2009 13:36:37] <rocket> #return [obj.getPrimaryId() for obj in self._objects]
[26-May-2009 13:42:11] <rocket> baffle: any luck?
[26-May-2009 13:47:00] <baffle> rocket: Err, it errors on the retrn...?
[26-May-2009 13:47:03] <baffle> return
[26-May-2009 13:47:19] <rocket> Traceback?
[26-May-2009 13:47:25] <baffle> Ah, is there maybe a ) missing..
[26-May-2009 13:47:32] <baffle> objs.append((obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:47:42] <baffle> Should that be objs.append(obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:47:43] <baffle> ?
[26-May-2009 13:47:56] <rocket> baffle: probably yes
[26-May-2009 13:48:29] <baffle> rocket: Better. :-
[26-May-2009 13:48:53] <baffle> rocket: Retrying a dump now.. Should I use --ignore this time as well? Or should I just keep the references and clean up manually?
[26-May-2009 13:49:03] <rocket> keep the references
[26-May-2009 13:49:18] <rocket> baffle: but most likely the dump will not contain them
[26-May-2009 13:49:25] <baffle> rocket: Hopefully.
[26-May-2009 13:49:57] <baffle> rocket: I've done something simmilar like your patch on objectIdsAll a few other places as well, to ignore the objects..
[26-May-2009 13:52:13] <rocket> baffle: then this is what I would try
[26-May-2009 13:52:23] <rocket> baffle: obviously take a backup of the system first
[26-May-2009 13:52:47] <baffle> Backup shmackup
[26-May-2009 13:53:39] <rmatte> I notice some new zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes that were added...
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> other
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> ram
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> virtualMemory
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> removableDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> floppyDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:42] <rmatte> compactDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:44] <rmatte> ramDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:46] <rmatte> flashMemory
[26-May-2009 13:53:48] <rmatte> networkDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:56] <rmatte> were these automatically ignored before and just not listed?
[26-May-2009 13:54:44] <baffle> Not sure.
[26-May-2009 13:55:13] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226564 <- Same for this I guess.
[26-May-2009 13:57:20] <baffle> rocket: Are you able to cook up something for this as well?
[26-May-2009 13:58:23] <rocket> baffle: let me see
[26-May-2009 14:00:39] <rocket> try this
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> def getPrimaryPath(self, fromNode=None):
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> Return the primary path of this object by following __primary_parent__
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:00:43] <rocket> ppath = []
[26-May-2009 14:00:45] <rocket> obj = aq_base(self)
[26-May-2009 14:00:48] <rocket> while True:
[26-May-2009 14:00:50] <rocket> if hasattr(obj,'id'):
[26-May-2009 14:00:53] <rocket> ppath.append(obj.id)
[26-May-2009 14:00:55] <rocket> parent = getattr(obj, "__primary_parent__", None)
[26-May-2009 14:00:58] <rocket> if parent is None: break
[26-May-2009 14:01:00] <rocket> obj = parent
[26-May-2009 14:01:03] <rocket> ppath.reverse()
[26-May-2009 14:01:05] <rocket> basepath = getattr(obj, "zPrimaryBasePath", [])
[26-May-2009 14:01:08] <rocket> for i in range(len(basepath)-1,-1,-1): ppath.insert(0,basepath[i])
[26-May-2009 14:01:10] <rocket> try:
[26-May-2009 14:01:13] <rocket> idx = ppath.index(fromNode)
[26-May-2009 14:01:15] <rocket> ppath = ppath[idx+1:]
[26-May-2009 14:01:18] <rocket> except ValueError: pass
[26-May-2009 14:01:20] <rocket> return tuple(ppath)
[26-May-2009 14:02:00] <rocket> anyway baffle I would try getting a clean dump .. saving it to a file
[26-May-2009 14:02:18] <rocket> baffle: then run mkzeoinstance.py to reinitialize the zeodb
[26-May-2009 14:02:33] <rocket> baffle: then run zenimport and import the file
[26-May-2009 14:02:54] <rocket> baffle: there probably is an easier way to do this though .. but I think it should work
[26-May-2009 14:03:15] <rocket> baffle: again I havent tested this method at all .. so I am just feeling my way though at the moment
[26-May-2009 14:05:36] <baffle> rocket: Trying out now.
[26-May-2009 14:05:48] <rocket> baffle: that code might not work right
[26-May-2009 14:05:54] <rocket> baffle: this might work better
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> def getPrimaryPath(self, fromNode=None):
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> Return the primary path of this object by following __primary_parent__
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> ppath = []
[26-May-2009 14:06:01] <rocket> obj = aq_base(self)
[26-May-2009 14:06:04] <rocket> while True:
[26-May-2009 14:06:06] <rocket> if not hasattr(obj,'id'): break
[26-May-2009 14:06:09] <rocket> ppath.append(obj.id)
[26-May-2009 14:06:11] <rocket> parent = getattr(obj, "__primary_parent__", None)
[26-May-2009 14:06:14] <rocket> if parent is None: break
[26-May-2009 14:06:16] <rocket> obj = parent
[26-May-2009 14:06:19] <rocket> ppath.reverse()
[26-May-2009 14:06:21] <rocket> basepath = getattr(obj, "zPrimaryBasePath", [])
[26-May-2009 14:06:24] <rocket> for i in range(len(basepath)-1,-1,-1): ppath.insert(0,basepath[i])
[26-May-2009 14:06:26] <rocket> try:
[26-May-2009 14:06:29] <rocket> idx = ppath.index(fromNode)
[26-May-2009 14:06:31] <rocket> ppath = ppath[idx+1:]
[26-May-2009 14:06:34] <rocket> except ValueError: pass
[26-May-2009 14:06:36] <rocket> return tuple(ppath)
[26-May-2009 14:07:26] <baffle> ok, aborting.
[26-May-2009 14:10:55] <baffle> Dumping..
[26-May-2009 14:11:07] <baffle> 1/3 done
[26-May-2009 14:14:25] <baffle> Oh, it passed the point it has crashed at before.
[26-May-2009 14:18:41] <baffle> Oh, a new one.. Somewhat different..
[26-May-2009 14:19:18] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226590
[26-May-2009 14:21:01] <rocket> baffle: bah! I bet my second patch has a bug in it that caused the recursion issue
[26-May-2009 14:22:48] <baffle> rocket: Probably.. But strange that the recursion bug then didn't trigger before.. The DB dump is now 82M vs 32M before.
[26-May-2009 14:23:25] <rocket> baffle: want to try my previous iteration of that bug fix?
[26-May-2009 14:23:36] <rocket> baffle: maybe that was more correct than I thought
[26-May-2009 14:23:58] <baffle> rocket: Sure.
[26-May-2009 14:25:05] <baffle> Dumping...
[26-May-2009 14:25:14] <rocket> baffle: or perhaps its a bug in something you had changed in your code
[26-May-2009 14:25:25] <rocket> baffle: not sure ..
[26-May-2009 14:35:56] <baffle> rocket: The patches are something like the first patch you had before.
[26-May-2009 14:36:20] <baffle> rocket: Hmm, the dump is running, but the filesize is not growing.
[26-May-2009 14:37:12] <baffle> rocket: And 99% CPU. Maybe we created a nice little loop?
[26-May-2009 14:37:22] <rocket> baffle: probably did ... :/
[26-May-2009 14:38:00] <baffle> Yeah, no movements in the file.
[26-May-2009 14:38:31] <baffle> rocket: Last lines are:
[26-May-2009 14:38:31] <baffle> <tomany id='instances'>
[26-May-2009 14:38:32] <baffle> <link objid='/zport/dmd
[26-May-2009 14:43:10] <baffle> rocket: Ideas?
[26-May-2009 14:43:19] <rocket> searching at the moment ..
[26-May-2009 14:46:21] <baffle> rocket: Ctrl-C in zendump gave this: http://paste2.org/p/226618
[26-May-2009 14:49:56] <rocket> baffle: so its stuck in the while true there ..
[26-May-2009 14:52:47] <rocket> baffle: revert that second patch .. I am going to try something else ..
[26-May-2009 14:54:30] <rocket> baffle: quick question .. have you ever run zenchkrels?
[26-May-2009 14:55:36] <rocket> try a zenchkrels -r after backing things up
[26-May-2009 14:56:40] <baffle> zenchkrels?
[26-May-2009 14:57:41] <rocket> it checks and fixes the relations in the database
[26-May-2009 15:08:06] <baffle> rocket: Yay... http://paste2.org/p/226633 -- But the old xscf devices were under this group: /zport/dmd/Groups/Customers/Siemens Medical Services - CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:08:24] <baffle> Maybe I shouldn't post customer names here.
[26-May-2009 15:09:25] <rocket> baffle: so you were able to clean them up?
[26-May-2009 15:09:33] <baffle> rocket: Yay, just navigating to that Group makes ZenOss crash too.
[26-May-2009 15:09:37] <venturaville> anyone know how to debug why zenoss will not load a modeler plugin from a zenpack?
[26-May-2009 15:09:38] <baffle> (In the web gui)
[26-May-2009 15:09:58] <baffle> venturaville: Looked at log/zenmodeller.log?
[26-May-2009 15:10:10] <baffle> rocket: No, crashed with the error I pasted..
[26-May-2009 15:10:15] <venturaville> root@emon8snc1:/opt/zenoss/zenoss/log$ ls -l zenmodeler.log
[26-May-2009 15:10:15] <venturaville> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 0 May 26 13:25 zenmodeler.log
[26-May-2009 15:10:26] <venturaville> zilch
[26-May-2009 15:10:56] <venturaville> the collector plugin is setup on the group and the device, and manually running it with zenmodeler doesn't show it up in the plugins list
[26-May-2009 15:12:30] <rocket> baffle: ok then .. lets see if we can try another thing
[26-May-2009 15:13:33] <venturaville> zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap
[26-May-2009 15:13:38] <venturaville> those are all that show up on a modeling run
[26-May-2009 15:13:56] <venturaville> plugin is there too
[26-May-2009 15:13:58] <venturaville> bizarre
[26-May-2009 15:18:27] <baffle> rocket: Yay.
[26-May-2009 15:20:04] <venturaville> argh ... apparently restarting the entire zenoss stack did the trick
[26-May-2009 15:20:20] <venturaville> the zenpack loading is definitely not 100% fool proof
[26-May-2009 15:27:44] <rocket> baffle: ?
[26-May-2009 15:30:23] <baffle> rocket: Yeah?
[26-May-2009 15:31:24] <baffle> rocket: You said we should try something else, I'm all out of ideas myself.. :-/
[26-May-2009 15:31:44] <rocket> baffle: ever work in zendmd?
[26-May-2009 15:31:49] <rocket> try this for me
[26-May-2009 15:31:54] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Groups.Customers.Siemens_Medical_Services_-_CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:32:03] <rocket> basegroup.getSubDevices_recursive()
[26-May-2009 15:35:27] <baffle> rocket: Hmm, didn't work with _, how should I escape the whitespace?
[26-May-2009 15:36:09] <baffle> Or, maybe, the "-"..
[26-May-2009 15:36:17] <venturaville> more likely the -
[26-May-2009 15:36:17] <rocket> try -
[26-May-2009 15:36:39] <rocket> dmd.Groups.Groups.Customers.Siemens-Medical-Services---CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:37:07] <baffle> Hmm, no..
[26-May-2009 15:37:37] <rocket> oops one too many groups
[26-May-2009 15:37:49] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Customers.Siemens-Medical-Services---CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:38:26] <baffle> "AttributeError: Siemens".. So the "-" is not it..
[26-May-2009 15:38:40] <rocket> try the underscore again
[26-May-2009 15:38:49] <rocket> but drop the duplicate groups
[26-May-2009 15:39:37] <baffle> "AttributeError: Siemens_Medical_Services_"
[26-May-2009 15:43:21] <rocket> ok try this then
[26-May-2009 15:43:23] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Customers
[26-May-2009 15:45:16] <rocket> bah .. not what I am looking for ..
[26-May-2009 15:46:25] <baffle> rocket: And that fails with http://paste2.org/p/226663
[26-May-2009 15:51:07] <rocket> baffle: know which devices are in that group?
[26-May-2009 15:51:38] <rocket> actually you might be able to do this on the webpage
[26-May-2009 15:51:45] <venturaville> g.getSubOrganizers()
[26-May-2009 15:51:49] <venturaville> where:
[26-May-2009 15:51:58] <venturaville> g = dmd.Groups.Customers
[26-May-2009 15:52:06] <rocket> venturaville: thats what I was looking for
[26-May-2009 15:52:18] <rocket> but easier still from the web page can you do
[26-May-2009 15:52:30] <rocket> http://server:8080/zport/dmd/Groups/manage
[26-May-2009 15:53:22] <baffle> rocket: I got the same idea as well. But clicking "Devices" under the group makes ZenOss barf..
[26-May-2009 15:53:40] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226676
[26-May-2009 15:53:45] <rocket> baffle: you might have to delete the group ..
[26-May-2009 15:53:52] <rocket> baffle: and then add the devices back into it
[26-May-2009 15:54:45] <baffle> Done.
[26-May-2009 15:55:26] <baffle> I'll check relations again.
[26-May-2009 15:55:36] <venturaville> zenoss filesystem modeler is ticking me off
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=6225395712 usedBlocks=4233846728 snmpindex=5 mount=nbabig
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=16777216 usedBlocks=2819092 snmpindex=7 mount=vol0
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=14608760832 usedBlocks=11582621376 snmpindex=9 mount=bigdot
[26-May-2009 15:55:55] <venturaville> all present in the modeler, ... all that I get on filesystems page is mount and total bytes
[26-May-2009 15:56:18] <baffle> venturaville: I have simmilar problems with some NetApps as well. Irritating.
[26-May-2009 15:56:21] <venturaville> (trying to combine the various netapp plugins into one
[26-May-2009 15:56:33] <venturaville> the data is there, the filesystem modeler just won't take it
[26-May-2009 15:57:08] <venturaville> they also dropped availBlocks from the filesystem modeler which is annoying
[26-May-2009 15:57:21] <venturaville> it broke some zenpacks out there
[26-May-2009 15:57:45] <rocket> baffle: I will have to run soon .. you might find issues under the network groups too with this stuff .. I have had to drop the base network and just remodel etc to fix stuff
[26-May-2009 15:59:22] <baffle> rocket: Thanks a lot for your help anyway.
[26-May-2009 15:59:48] <baffle> Gah. Does anyone really use the software products? Doesn't it just slow things down?
[26-May-2009 16:00:27] <rocket> baffle: software products might be another area to drop and re-add too
[26-May-2009 16:00:51] <rocket> baffle: at least you have an idea what to do to fix it with the chkrels script pointing you the right way
[26-May-2009 16:01:27] <rocket> baffle: you shouldnt be having this much trouble but the underlying relationship model is a bit touchy and needs to be reworked eventually in my opinion
[26-May-2009 16:02:32] <venturaville> rocket: amen to that
[26-May-2009 16:03:37] <rocket> anyway I am outta here .. and baffle for future reference .. load all zenpacks on a test machine before they go into production
[26-May-2009 16:03:47] <baffle> rocket: Heh.
[26-May-2009 16:05:12] <baffle> rocket: The best part is that this has been patched around since the first ZenOss installation we had aaaaages ago.
[26-May-2009 16:13:36] <aburgel> hi, i'm having some issues with zenstatus... its connecting to services that i have explicitly set it to not monitor
[26-May-2009 16:13:42] <aburgel> with zenoss 2.4.1
[26-May-2009 16:15:38] <aburgel> it seems like if you set a monitor=true at the service level, but then at the device level, if you set monitor=false for that service, then at midnight, the device settings get overridden
[26-May-2009 16:15:41] <aburgel> is that supposed to happen?
[26-May-2009 16:22:39] <venturaville> so I got the combined netapp zenpack working at least as well as the previous 3 separately
[26-May-2009 16:23:07] <venturaville> the filesystem graphs are accurate, but the filesystem view page shows the wrong numbers for used and avail bytes
[26-May-2009 16:23:40] <venturaville> maybe someone who understands Zen's built in filesystem modeler and can figure out why it is getting switched around in there
[26-May-2009 16:23:47] <venturaville> could take a look?
[26-May-2009 16:23:50] <venturaville> if I send it out
[26-May-2009 16:24:49] <venturaville> mrayzenoss?
[26-May-2009 16:27:11] <mrayzenoss_> I'm probably not the one to debug it, but I know there are several NetApp users
[26-May-2009 16:27:16] mrayzenoss_ is now known as mrayzenoss
[26-May-2009 16:27:34] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: sending it to you in a second
[26-May-2009 16:27:59] <mrayzenoss> so if you have something close to working, perhaps posting it on the ZenPacks forum looking for testers/fixers
[26-May-2009 16:36:34] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: will that list take a large plugin as an attachment?
[26-May-2009 16:36:45] <mrayzenoss> I don't think so
[26-May-2009 16:36:54] <mrayzenoss> external URL might be preferrable
[26-May-2009 16:37:11] <mrayzenoss> or you can post it on the Trac wiki as an attachement
[26-May-2009 16:39:04] <venturaville> 73KB
[26-May-2009 16:39:20] <venturaville> I'll try it and see if it bounces :-)
[26-May-2009 16:41:51] <venturaville> I ran into a snafu with the hp blade chassis that I have to fix before I send that one out
[26-May-2009 16:48:20] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: sent
[26-May-2009 17:10:04] <mrayzenoss> venturaville: looks like the forums dropped the attachment http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9875
[26-May-2009 17:10:10] <mrayzenoss> I'll put up a wiki page with it
[26-May-2009 17:12:08] <venturaville> thanks
[26-May-2009 17:27:43] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/ZenPackscommunityNetApp
[26-May-2009 17:28:19] <mrayzenoss> updated the forum post as well
[26-May-2009 18:29:40] <baffle> Is there a good clear example of a ZenPack with a proper modeller + new ZenOss views somewhere?
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[27-May-2009 03:59:11] <Dieterbe> Hi, everytime I try to register @ http://www.zenoss.com/join_form and submit the form I get to see the clear html output for the page . and it says (among others):
[27-May-2009 03:59:14] <Dieterbe> <div>We were unable to send your password to your email address: (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')</div>
[27-May-2009 03:59:29] <Dieterbe> even though my address is correct (i tried with my personal, and work one)
[27-May-2009 04:04:15] <Appiah> sounds to me like zenoss.com got some issus then
[27-May-2009 04:04:29] <Appiah> I'm having problems just getting to the site
[27-May-2009 04:04:49] <Appiah> So I'm betting you're not doing anything wrong Dieterbe
[27-May-2009 04:06:06] <Dieterbe> Yeah I'm pretty sure it's not me . just wanted to inform the guys that there is a problem
[27-May-2009 05:15:59] <pascalou3> hi here
[27-May-2009 05:16:23] Weetos is now known as Weetos_[Lunch]
[27-May-2009 05:16:37] <pascalou3> i try to scan the network , and i have almost a device per ip in the first subnets , but still after 30 minutes scanning , i see no progress in the logs
[27-May-2009 07:01:05] Weetos_[Lunch] is now known as Weetos
[27-May-2009 09:28:52] <simprix> Can I monitor processes via zenplugin using ssh
[27-May-2009 09:48:41] <simprix> When I get a notification. The acknowledge link goes to localhost how can I change that to my actual url.
[27-May-2009 10:33:15] <etank> is there a way to get the "Free Memory" and "Paging" graphs to work on a Windows Storage Server 2003
[27-May-2009 10:36:21] <etank> i have informant-snmp installed on the box but i dont get any graphs for these two items
[27-May-2009 10:37:11] <etank> is it possible that the Storage Server version doesnt expose the information needed to build the graphs?
[27-May-2009 10:45:18] <etank> I keep getting "SNMP Informant Standard Argument = \Memory\Available KBytes ErrorMessage = The specified instance is not present. ErrorNumber ="
[27-May-2009 10:45:40] <etank> and a message just like it for "\Pages/Sec"
[27-May-2009 10:46:19] <etank> and "Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on server.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)"
[27-May-2009 10:54:02] <cain22> hello all
[27-May-2009 11:00:15] <ckoehler> hello
[27-May-2009 11:01:10] <ckoehler> what exactly does zenoss do?
[27-May-2009 11:01:16] <ckoehler> does it monitor logs?
[27-May-2009 11:01:18] <ckoehler> or processes?
[27-May-2009 11:01:38] <ckoehler> and can it be used as a log analyzer or search engine?
[27-May-2009 11:01:59] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss doesn't monitor logs specifically, but it can monitor syslog and windows event log
[27-May-2009 11:02:28] <mrayzenoss> it's more general monitoring, SNMP, SSH, WMI, processes, ports, etc.
[27-May-2009 11:02:36] <ckoehler> ah ok
[27-May-2009 11:02:59] <ckoehler> so i can't use it to, say, find out what happened to a certain email in our systems, etc
[27-May-2009 11:03:16] <mrayzenoss> not unless that email sends some sort of event
[27-May-2009 11:03:27] <mrayzenoss> the mail server may throw errors of some kind
[27-May-2009 11:03:31] <ckoehler> right
[27-May-2009 11:03:35] <ckoehler> it will be in the log file
[27-May-2009 11:03:40] <mrayzenoss> or syslog
[27-May-2009 11:04:18] <ckoehler> i am looking for some log analysis tool to deploy on a central log server. would that be zenoss?
[27-May-2009 11:04:30] <ckoehler> i have a feeling it may be more general than that
[27-May-2009 11:05:03] <rocket> ckoehler: you can pump syslog stuff to zenoss
[27-May-2009 11:05:18] <rocket> ckoehler: and then have zenoss parse the events
[27-May-2009 11:05:35] <rocket> ckoehler: but it will take some work filtering things etc
[27-May-2009 11:06:20] <ckoehler> hm so it's probably not ideal
[27-May-2009 11:06:35] <ckoehler> do you guys have any recommendations for that kinda thing?
[27-May-2009 11:06:52] <ranc0r> splunk does nice log aggregation and searching
[27-May-2009 11:07:03] <ckoehler> true, it also costs an arm and a leg
[27-May-2009 11:07:03] <rocket> ckoehler: splunk and zenoss together?
[27-May-2009 11:07:15] <ckoehler> trying to find a splunk alternative
[27-May-2009 11:07:32] <caseyh20> ls
[27-May-2009 11:07:42] <ranc0r> the community version won't work for you?
[27-May-2009 11:07:57] <mrayzenoss> I think the community version caps at 500 gigs of logs a month
[27-May-2009 11:07:57] <ckoehler> ranc0r: nope, too much data
[27-May-2009 11:08:01] <ckoehler> haha
[27-May-2009 11:08:02] <ckoehler> i wish
[27-May-2009 11:08:03] <mrayzenoss> or megs
[27-May-2009 11:08:06] <mrayzenoss> probably megs
[27-May-2009 11:08:07] <ckoehler> 500 megs a day
[27-May-2009 11:08:20] <ckoehler> and we're at a few gb easy
[27-May-2009 11:08:24] <ranc0r> ah yeah i forgot about that part
[27-May-2009 11:08:36] <ckoehler> unfortunate, we really like it
[27-May-2009 11:08:40] <ckoehler> but the cost is pretty steep
[27-May-2009 11:12:18] <ckoehler> well i see that zenoss has an event console
[27-May-2009 11:12:20] <ckoehler> that is searchable
[27-May-2009 11:12:29] <ckoehler> shouldn't that work well enough?
[27-May-2009 11:12:38] <ckoehler> btw, is there a demo install somewhere?
[27-May-2009 11:12:44] <rocket> ckoehler: if its all you need then it should be ..
[27-May-2009 11:12:59] <ckoehler> we don't need the power of splunk
[27-May-2009 11:13:08] <mrayzenoss> ckoehler: http://www.logreport.org/ ?
[27-May-2009 11:13:16] <ckoehler> just searching through a ton of logs, some (manual) cross referencing...
[27-May-2009 11:13:21] <ckoehler> ya saw that
[27-May-2009 11:13:24] <ckoehler> it looks interesting
[27-May-2009 11:13:34] <ckoehler> was looking for more actively developed project
[27-May-2009 11:13:38] <ckoehler> but that's an option
[27-May-2009 11:14:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I'm not really aware of an option
[27-May-2009 11:14:38] <mrayzenoss> if there was one, we'd probably want a Zenoss integration
[27-May-2009 11:14:53] <mrayzenoss> some people use Zenoss with Splunk
[27-May-2009 11:19:40] <malbon> hi all
[27-May-2009 11:20:13] <malbon> is fdeckert here? or is someone familiar with how to use his Event Views portlet?
[27-May-2009 11:22:08] <mrayzenoss> I smoke tested it
[27-May-2009 11:22:24] <mrayzenoss> I got event views on the user and groups
[27-May-2009 11:22:26] <ckoehler> mrayzenoss: thanks for the info
[27-May-2009 11:22:44] <mrayzenoss> he just sent me an update to it
[27-May-2009 11:24:19] <mrayzenoss> "fixing a bug were the portlet was never refreshing"
[27-May-2009 11:24:27] <malbon> mrayzenoss: how did you get group event views to work? they don't seem to work when ldap connected..
[27-May-2009 11:24:30] <mrayzenoss> it's in my queue, behind rocket's stuff
[27-May-2009 11:24:41] <mrayzenoss> ahh, never tried with ldap
[27-May-2009 11:24:51] <malbon> it'd be a cool tools once that is sorted.
[27-May-2009 11:25:37] <malbon> also how do people use Zenoss with splunk? is there a recipie you can point too?
[27-May-2009 11:26:45] <mrayzenoss> I think they're using event commands to push stuff into splunk
[27-May-2009 11:26:52] <mrayzenoss> I don't have anything in hand
[27-May-2009 11:27:01] <mrayzenoss> just heard that it's been done
[27-May-2009 11:27:52] <malbon> ok
[27-May-2009 11:28:22] <mrayzenoss> I'm pretty sure we've done professional services work with it
[27-May-2009 11:28:39] <malbon> next time you contact florian deckert can you ask for an 'export' option so we can export and import event views between users and groups.
[27-May-2009 11:29:04] <malbon> we are investigating it, if they like it we will contact PS and see what they have to say.
[27-May-2009 11:29:08] <mrayzenoss> malbon: that may be supported in King Crab
[27-May-2009 11:29:23] <mrayzenoss> the event console is going to integrate event views
[27-May-2009 11:29:30] <malbon> mrayzenoss: so 2.5 then
[27-May-2009 11:29:33] <mrayzenoss> at least, that's the current plan
[27-May-2009 11:30:26] <malbon> sounds good.
[27-May-2009 11:30:36] <malbon> is the current plan published?
[27-May-2009 11:32:09] <mrayzenoss> hmm... I need to get with Product Management to get some sort of "Coming in King Crab" post
[27-May-2009 11:32:50] <Serideru> anyone have any expirerence with distributed collectors with core 2.4.1?
[27-May-2009 11:33:51] <malbon> Serideru: not being silly, get a contract for enterprise or professional and get help. They will help you sort out all the issues you may find. (no I don't work for Zenoss Inc)
[27-May-2009 11:35:00] <Serideru> malbon: we have a contract for enterprise. I've got a core setup at a smaller office that I'm trying to get a distributed collector setup on.
[27-May-2009 11:37:56] <malbon> Serideru: Then engage Zenoss support
[27-May-2009 11:38:52] <Serideru> malbon: ahh... I wasn't aware that support would assist me with my core installation as well as the enterprise installation. I'll give that a try then
[27-May-2009 11:39:49] <malbon> Serideru: They may, they may not. Usually I found them very helpful with our proof of concept stuff.
[27-May-2009 11:40:06] <Serideru> malbon: cool. I'll give it a try.
[27-May-2009 12:13:10] <etank> so does anyone have Zenoss monitoring a Windows Storage Server 2003 box that is successfully getting graph data for memory?
[27-May-2009 12:16:51] <tyler79> has anyone installed on freebsd lately?
[27-May-2009 12:16:58] <tyler79> i'm having a little bit of trouble
[27-May-2009 12:20:03] <mrayzenoss> Yeah, it's not working very well with 2.4
[27-May-2009 12:20:05] <mrayzenoss> http://www.caseyhillman.com/?p=88
[27-May-2009 12:20:32] <mrayzenoss> I know perr0 and caseyh20 were working on it
[27-May-2009 12:20:49] <mrayzenoss> etank: sorry, can't help you
[27-May-2009 12:21:30] <sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: it's working ok... just need to recompile something manually.
[27-May-2009 12:23:01] <sergeymasushko> unfortunately I do not have a chance to reproduce it and note all steps, yet...
[27-May-2009 12:30:40] <perr0> what is that?
[27-May-2009 12:31:25] <perr0> tyler79: what do you have a question on?
[27-May-2009 12:34:29] <caseyh20> what sergeymasushko said is right, I manged to get 2.4.1 installed on freebsd by manually compiling rrdtool and its dependencies. I have been workingon reproducing it and creating a detailed tutorial but I haven't had much time to work on it. I hope to have it finished by the end of the week
[27-May-2009 12:34:49] <etank> mrayzenoss: this is the only issue that im having with Zenoss right now and it this is the only server that is having this issue.
[27-May-2009 12:35:14] <mrayzenoss> etank: might be worth posting on the zenoss-windows forum
[27-May-2009 12:35:15] <etank> that is why i assume that it has to do with the way that Microsoft arched the Stoprage Server version
[27-May-2009 12:35:35] <etank> mrayzenoss: i will once the DNS issues here at work are fixed
[27-May-2009 12:35:36] <perr0> caseyh20: were you able to communicate with mysql I know this was the last hurdle you spoke of
[27-May-2009 12:35:59] <etank> and im going to ask in the demo im attending today
[27-May-2009 12:36:05] <caseyh20> yeah, that was a mistake I made, I commited out too much in the GNUmakefile lol
[27-May-2009 12:38:15] <perr0> right on
[27-May-2009 12:43:44] <tyler79> yeah, rrdtool is the thing that i had a problem with
[27-May-2009 12:43:56] <tyler79> specifically, the freetype dependancy
[27-May-2009 12:44:43] <mrayzenoss> so speaking of new dependencies that broke everything... Zope 2.11.2 is now checked into Subversion trunk
[27-May-2009 12:47:46] <caseyh20> nice
[27-May-2009 12:47:51] <caseyh20> freetype is easy to fix
[27-May-2009 12:48:13] <caseyh20> you need to edit rrddeps.sh
[27-May-2009 12:49:21] <caseyh20> to say "GNUMAKE=gmake ./configure" and "gmake" instead of "make" when it is preforming those commands for freetype
[27-May-2009 12:53:12] <malbon> mrayzenoss: does it include the latest version of ZODB?
[27-May-2009 12:53:31] <mrayzenoss> I assume so
[27-May-2009 12:53:58] <mrayzenoss> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9874
[27-May-2009 12:54:24] <malbon> hmm
[27-May-2009 12:54:43] <mrayzenoss> Ian says yes
[27-May-2009 12:54:47] <malbon> I'll check it out Hopefully RelStorage will just work.
[27-May-2009 12:56:49] <mrayzenoss> it's the omnipresent Ian
[27-May-2009 12:56:55] <__ian__> Word.
[27-May-2009 12:57:46] <malbon> __ian__: is using RelStorage on the roadmap with this latest update to Zope? (if not can I persuade you to look at it?)
[27-May-2009 12:59:17] <__ian__> It is not on the roadmap, no.
[27-May-2009 12:59:29] <__ian__> ZODB goes to 3.7, which ships with Zope 2.11
[27-May-2009 12:59:50] <malbon> shame. ok I'll give it a go, and see what falls out.
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[27-May-2009 13:00:30] <__ian__> Yeah, we're absolutely not opposed to it; sadly, dev resources are limited.
[27-May-2009 13:01:30] <malbon> __ian__: no prob, my colleague Tonino and I will have a play, if we get it working, document it and submit it through the usual support bat-channel.
[27-May-2009 13:01:47] <__ian__> RelStorage should be a pretty simple drop-in, hopefully. Let me know if you have any questions.
[27-May-2009 13:01:59] <malbon> __ian__: cool will do.
[27-May-2009 13:02:45] <malbon> anyhow got to go, it's go-home-o'clock.
[27-May-2009 13:08:22] <tyler79> i got past freetype, now glib is failing: no iconv() implementation found in C library or libiconv
[27-May-2009 13:09:55] <caseyh20> yeah, try "find /usr/local/ -name "*libiconv*"" and see what it finds
[27-May-2009 13:16:27] <tyler79> hah, i suck at irc (kept beginning message with /): /usr/local/lib/libiconv.a,la,so,so.3
[27-May-2009 13:17:26] <caseyh20> lol
[27-May-2009 13:18:05] <tyler79> so, do I need --with-libiconv=something for the configure args to glib?
[27-May-2009 13:18:18] <caseyh20> ok, so my current fix for that is to copy all those into /usr/lib/
[27-May-2009 13:19:17] <caseyh20> well the --with-libiconv= option only accepts 1 of 3 options (no/gnu/native)
[27-May-2009 13:19:31] <caseyh20> not actually the location of libiconv
[27-May-2009 13:19:44] <tyler79> k
[27-May-2009 13:19:46] <tyler79> i'll try that
[27-May-2009 13:29:27] <sergeymasushko> can someone guide me how to setup OS monitoring on cisco AS5300 device?
[27-May-2009 13:29:50] <perr0> is that a firewall
[27-May-2009 13:30:01] <tyler79> same problem with gettext I think
[27-May-2009 13:30:03] <sergeymasushko> it's a VoIP GW
[27-May-2009 13:31:38] <sergeymasushko> I get a lot of events e.g. 'Error reading value for "Voice Encapsulation (POTS) Peer: 103" on cisco01.litespan.net (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.209 is bad)' as far as I understand need to create a template for it. how can I do it?
[27-May-2009 13:32:52] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I managed to delete (afaik) all references to Xscf in ZODB last night, and I have now reverted to original .py files. I still have some problems other places, care to help out? :-)
[27-May-2009 13:34:46] <tyler79> caseyh20: do i need to copy the gettext libraries to /usr/lib also?
[27-May-2009 13:35:17] <caseyh20> yeah
[27-May-2009 13:36:50] <caseyh20> I know there is a proper way to tell it to look in a different place for the libs but I haven't had any luck, right now im trying to clean up the process
[27-May-2009 13:38:56] <caseyh20> nice, I just got it to compile on FreeBSD without having to do anything manually
[27-May-2009 13:39:27] <caseyh20> did anyone open a ticket for the FreeBSD failure to compile?
[27-May-2009 13:45:38] <perr0> you did
[27-May-2009 13:52:17] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/m35b26dd5 :-D
[27-May-2009 13:55:23] <perr0> ? ^
[27-May-2009 13:56:32] <caseyh20> lol, that is the install script successfully configuring, building, and installing rrdtool on freebsd and continuning on with the zenoss install
[27-May-2009 13:59:15] <tyler79> so, how did you do that?
[27-May-2009 13:59:45] <perr0> that is with the dependency that provides iconv_t? Forgot what app it is
[27-May-2009 14:01:03] <perr0> GNU libiconv
[27-May-2009 14:02:57] <perr0> (02:00:58 PM) perr0: that is with the dependency that provides iconv_t? Forgot what app it is
[27-May-2009 14:02:57] <perr0> (02:02:16 PM) perr0: GNU libiconv
[27-May-2009 14:04:08] <ventura> is there a Cisco MDS zenpack out there anywhere?
[27-May-2009 14:05:02] <rocket> baffle: issue?
[27-May-2009 14:07:38] ventura is now known as venturaville
[27-May-2009 14:07:58] <baffle> rocket: Yeah.. The user manager + some reports still don't work..
[27-May-2009 14:08:09] venturaville is now known as register
[27-May-2009 14:08:13] register is now known as venturaville
[27-May-2009 14:08:26] <rocket> tracebacks?
[27-May-2009 14:10:21] <baffle> rocket: Well, not sure, the errors come in the webgui primarily.
[27-May-2009 14:10:53] <baffle> rocket: Like this: http://paste2.org/p/228312
[27-May-2009 14:53:54] <baffle> rocket: Is there any better tracebacks somewhere?
[27-May-2009 14:54:03] <baffle> Or, well, proper tracebakcs..
[27-May-2009 14:58:19] daMaestro|isBack is now known as daMaestro
[27-May-2009 15:03:47] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[27-May-2009 15:20:04] <rocket> baffle: its not liking your user baffle
[27-May-2009 15:20:10] <rocket> try recreating it?
[27-May-2009 15:20:32] <rocket> that user doesnt seem to have the has_role attribute
[27-May-2009 15:31:42] <baffle> rocket: Strange..
[27-May-2009 15:31:50] <baffle> rocket: That's the one I'm logged in as.
[27-May-2009 15:35:51] <baffle> rocket: Nopes, that is not it. I get the same error when using "admin".
[27-May-2009 15:36:41] <rocket> baffle: check the log files to see if there are any more tracebacks
[27-May-2009 15:36:59] <baffle> rocket: Wich log would these go into?
[27-May-2009 15:52:16] <baffle> Is it normal for zenhun to have 100% cpu usage all the time?
[27-May-2009 15:52:19] <baffle> zenhub
[27-May-2009 15:57:44] edwardam is now known as edwardam|AFK
[27-May-2009 15:58:18] <pupmini> afternoon, i have a question about some of the zenoss deamons if anyone has a moment
[27-May-2009 15:58:37] <mrayzenoss> baffle: not really
[27-May-2009 15:58:41] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: sure
[27-May-2009 15:59:36] <pupmini> so all of the deamons have been running no problem for a couple days, and out of the blue, i had zenping, zensyslog and zentrap die on me earlier today
[27-May-2009 16:00:09] <pupmini> cant seem to get the up again
[27-May-2009 16:01:00] <pupmini> i looked in the log files but there doesnt seem to be any indication of any activity of anything
[27-May-2009 16:01:31] <sergeymasushko> try to restart zenhub and then start the daemons again
[27-May-2009 16:03:34] <pupmini> nope
[27-May-2009 16:03:37] <pupmini> didnt work
[27-May-2009 16:03:47] <mrayzenoss> version?
[27-May-2009 16:03:51] <pupmini> newest
[27-May-2009 16:03:55] <pupmini> 2.04 i think
[27-May-2009 16:04:01] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is the newest
[27-May-2009 16:04:26] <mrayzenoss> not that they should be crashing
[27-May-2009 16:04:28] <pupmini> ya that one
[27-May-2009 16:04:29] <mrayzenoss> with any version
[27-May-2009 16:04:34] <pupmini> haha ya
[27-May-2009 16:05:24] <pupmini> of all of them to crash, one of them had to be the syslog one, go figure
[27-May-2009 16:06:47] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Have you encountered any common causes of this high CPU usage?
[27-May-2009 16:06:49] <mrayzenoss> so zensyslog is down right?
[27-May-2009 16:06:55] <pupmini> ya it is
[27-May-2009 16:07:05] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: try running "zensyslog run -v10"
[27-May-2009 16:07:05] <pupmini> zensyslog, zenping and zentrap
[27-May-2009 16:07:34] <mrayzenoss> baffle: what version were you upgrading to?
[27-May-2009 16:07:54] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It's running 2.4.1 now.
[27-May-2009 16:08:12] <mrayzenoss> ok, so that's good. 500ish devices right?
[27-May-2009 16:08:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I think I manged to get rid of all the XscfDevice-references.
[27-May-2009 16:08:28] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Mmm, I think I might have a bit less.
[27-May-2009 16:08:30] <mrayzenoss> yeah, big thanks rocket
[27-May-2009 16:10:07] <mrayzenoss> baffle: take a look at your $ZENHOME/etc/zenhubworker.conf
[27-May-2009 16:10:16] <mrayzenoss> and bump it to 2 workers
[27-May-2009 16:10:41] <baffle> zenhubworker.conf doesn't exist.
[27-May-2009 16:10:54] <baffle> Should I genconf?
[27-May-2009 16:12:14] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Don't really see anything in that config that looks like number of workers..
[27-May-2009 16:12:16] <mrayzenoss> I'm trying to track down some documentation on it
[27-May-2009 16:12:36] <mrayzenoss> I think it was added in 2.3.3
[27-May-2009 16:13:33] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I see there is a "workers" option in zenhub.conf.
[27-May-2009 16:13:42] <baffle> "Number of worker instances to handle requests"
[27-May-2009 16:13:45] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think that's the one
[27-May-2009 16:14:08] <mrayzenoss> bump it to 2, that should reduce the load in the zenhub
[27-May-2009 16:14:10] <baffle> Trying..
[27-May-2009 16:15:38] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Hmm, died.. Traceback..
[27-May-2009 16:16:03] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, you don't even have to use genconf anymore with 2.4
[27-May-2009 16:16:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: http://paste2.org/p/228468
[27-May-2009 16:16:19] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Oh.
[27-May-2009 16:16:21] <pupmini> mrayzenoss: when i try to start zensyslog run -v10 it connected to the hub, started, got collector thresholds and then started the shutdown process
[27-May-2009 16:16:24] <mrayzenoss> if you hit "edit config" on the daemons page
[27-May-2009 16:16:37] <mrayzenoss> it puts you into a config editor
[27-May-2009 16:17:11] <mrayzenoss> baffle: try restarting everything
[27-May-2009 16:17:19] <mrayzenoss> zeo and zope and zenhub
[27-May-2009 16:17:32] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: no errors?
[27-May-2009 16:18:12] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Works, I guess it didn't like "zenoss restart".
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> no errors, the only thing it kicked out that looks kinda bad is this:
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> DEBUG:zen.ZenSyslog:Sent a 'stop' event
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> DEBUG:zen.ZenSyslog:stop() called when not running
[27-May-2009 16:19:23] <mrayzenoss> yeah, it doesn't stay up, it just runs through a cycle
[27-May-2009 16:19:26] <mrayzenoss> nothing in the zenhub?
[27-May-2009 16:19:41] <mrayzenoss> log that is
[27-May-2009 16:19:46] <pupmini> ah
[27-May-2009 16:19:49] <pupmini> checking..
[27-May-2009 16:20:10] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Seems usage went way down..
[27-May-2009 16:20:43] <pupmini> nothing in zenhub log
[27-May-2009 16:21:20] <mrayzenoss> I think the number of workers is 1 by default, but you don't want it to exceed your number of CPUs
[27-May-2009 16:21:42] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: so if you do a zensyslog start it just runs
[27-May-2009 16:21:46] <mrayzenoss> and eventually dies?
[27-May-2009 16:22:09] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Quad Core.
[27-May-2009 16:22:15] <pupmini> it runs and dies immediatly
[27-May-2009 16:22:15] <baffle> mrayzenoss: So it should work ok.
[27-May-2009 16:22:46] <pupmini> i can send you the 15 or so lines of "debug" in a private message if you wish
[27-May-2009 16:23:04] <baffle> pupmini: Try http://paste2.org/ to post debug info.
[27-May-2009 16:23:32] <baffle> pupmini: "Fresh Paste" on the top/right side.
[27-May-2009 16:25:15] <pupmini> so...zensyslog just kicked on for no apparent reason
[27-May-2009 16:25:53] <pupmini> i remembered playing with the web user permissions and i just kicked my login from zenmanager to zenuser and it kicked on
[27-May-2009 16:27:48] <mrayzenoss> sorry gents, off to a meeting
[27-May-2009 16:28:07] <pupmini> thanks for the help
[27-May-2009 16:28:25] <mrayzenoss> did it get fixed?
[27-May-2009 16:28:31] <pupmini> ah
[27-May-2009 16:28:35] <pupmini> zensyslog is
[27-May-2009 16:28:43] <pupmini> but zenping and trap are still down
[27-May-2009 16:29:00] <pupmini> for somereason i cant be a zenmanager to start the deamons
[27-May-2009 16:29:40] <pupmini> at least that one
[27-May-2009 16:40:46] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It seems to have stabilized a bit now, they pop up to 100% cpu usage now and then tho. But not like before.
[27-May-2009 17:04:19] edwardam|AFK is now known as edwardam
[27-May-2009 17:06:07] <sergeymasushko> can somebody point me the right way: where can I found OIDs for monitoring 'propPointToPointSerial' instead of 'ethernetCsmacd' class?
[27-May-2009 18:00:01] <caseyh21> hey, anyone know what it says google maps rejected my key and but it works?
[27-May-2009 18:00:45] <caseyh21> I get a pop-up with this message http://pastebin.com/m8d551d2
[27-May-2009 18:04:50] daMaestro|isBack is now known as daMaestro
[27-May-2009 18:20:42] <perr0> does it reject it cause it doesn't match the url of your server?
[27-May-2009 18:21:08] <perr0> yep
[27-May-2009 18:21:45] <perr0> I didn't he had left
[27-May-2009 18:21:56] <perr0> see*
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[28-May-2009 02:56:13] <pascalou> hi here
[28-May-2009 02:56:20] <pascalou> any living peron around ?
[28-May-2009 03:25:08] <Maxim1> hi
[28-May-2009 03:38:42] <MaximB> hi
[28-May-2009 03:39:20] <MaximB> I'm having problems removing zenoss from my system (not that zenoss is a bad program, but I need to do something and it needs to be removed)
[28-May-2009 03:39:35] <MaximB> I get :
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> [root@mldev11 ~]# apt-get remove zenoss
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> Reading Package Lists... Done
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> zenoss (2.2.3-30.el5)
[28-May-2009 03:39:39] <MaximB> zenoss-core-zenpacks (2.2.0-0)
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[28-May-2009 03:39:59] <MaximB> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(3655) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[28-May-2009 03:40:39] <MaximB> every zenoss pack fails to connect
[28-May-2009 03:42:22] <MaximB> how can I remove zenoss ?
[28-May-2009 03:48:29] <MaximB> damn , it seems that I needed to start zenoss services first before removing them ...
[28-May-2009 06:59:25] <Weetos> I've defined an escalate count on a custom template, and this work as expected (events are first mapped to warning and then to error when the escalate count is reached) but this gives me duplicates in the event console
[28-May-2009 07:00:02] <Weetos> I mean the warning stays as is and an error appears, instead of just one error
[28-May-2009 07:00:19] <Weetos> is that an expected result ?
[28-May-2009 07:07:29] <Weetos> I thought this would just add +1 severy level to the existing event
[28-May-2009 07:22:18] <Younger> hi, i have a router with snmp version set to v2c. so ethernetCsmacd_64 should be used instead of ethernetCsmacd. but the interface throughput graph is still drawn using ethernetCsmacd. Does any one know how to force ethernetCsmacd_64?
[28-May-2009 08:36:09] <genji0714> Hello all
[28-May-2009 08:37:24] <genji0714> does anyone have experience with snmpv3?
[28-May-2009 08:37:53] <Weetos> sorry, I don't
[28-May-2009 08:38:57] <Weetos> and the other guys seem away/busy at the mo
[28-May-2009 08:39:07] <genji0714> yea...it is a bit quiet!
[28-May-2009 08:39:39] <rocket> Weetos: I would expect what you are seeing by looking at the code
[28-May-2009 08:40:13] <rocket> Weetos: events arent really stored with the device based on the code layout ..
[28-May-2009 08:40:40] <Weetos> rocket> does it sound like it's a feature or a bug, according to you ?
[28-May-2009 08:40:57] <rocket> it could be looked at both ways
[28-May-2009 08:41:13] <rocket> I would say it kind of nice as a feature to show the event escalated
[28-May-2009 08:41:37] <rocket> as long as both events go away when the event has cleared I wouldnt really worry about it
[28-May-2009 08:42:22] <rocket> having both events will show you the times when they first appeared etc
[28-May-2009 08:42:51] <Weetos> yeah they do disappear - you're right
[28-May-2009 08:43:31] <Weetos> you made valid points here, I haven't thought of it that way
[28-May-2009 08:43:40] <Weetos> Thanks for your input
[28-May-2009 08:43:55] <rocket> no problemo ..
[28-May-2009 08:45:42] <genji0714> I have a question maybe someone can help...
[28-May-2009 08:45:55] <genji0714> About half of my switches are reporting that the SNMP agent is down
[28-May-2009 08:46:28] <genji0714> when in fact it is not...i am able to do an snmpwalk from Zenoss and the other half of the switches that have the exact same config..some even in the same net closet work just fine
[28-May-2009 08:48:32] <Weetos> bad network links or dropped packets may lead to what you're seeing, as SNMP is transported over UDP, there's no retransmission of packets when they're dropped - Have you checked the errors counters on the relevant interfaces ?
[28-May-2009 08:52:52] <genji0714> yea
[28-May-2009 08:53:00] <genji0714> the switches themselves appear OK
[28-May-2009 08:53:18] <Weetos> hmmm that's weird
[28-May-2009 08:53:42] <genji0714> yea...it is driving me crazy!
[28-May-2009 08:54:57] <genji0714> I have tried debugging zenperfsnmp...nothing in the logs...it just doesn't make sense
[28-May-2009 08:55:05] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: I sent you a Cisco MDS Zenpack
[28-May-2009 08:55:29] <Weetos> I would use tcpdump on the zenoss machine (using an appropriate filter such as 'host <switch> and udp port snmp') to see if the request get answered (and thus being ignored by zenoss) or if they stays actually unanswered
[28-May-2009 08:57:35] <genji0714> Ok, I will try that! Thank you very much
[28-May-2009 08:57:43] <genji0714>
[28-May-2009 09:00:25] <Weetos> you're welcome
[28-May-2009 09:13:47] <jb> what does the MDS zenpack do?
[28-May-2009 09:15:29] MmeNetView is now known as Jane_Curry
[28-May-2009 09:22:26] <Jane_Curry> test
[28-May-2009 09:24:54] <jb> test successful
[28-May-2009 09:25:44] <Younger> genji0714: check snmp version. I had a similar problem and it turned only SNMP v2c was enabled in my router.
[28-May-2009 09:45:52] <genji0714> <younger> snmp is all set on zenoss and the switches have snmpv3 enabled. I am able to snmpwalk them using v3 credentials.
[28-May-2009 09:46:30] <genji0714> <Weetos> the tcpdump didn't revel a whole lot...i am seeing snmp traffic back and fourth...
[28-May-2009 09:59:54] <Dieterbe> Hi, when I add a Server/Linux and have snmp working (I have cpu, memory etc graphs), shouldn't i also get network graphs for the interfaces? i tried going to the device->os->interfaces, select them and do "enable monitoring" but this does not give me graphs
[28-May-2009 10:01:52] <mrayzenoss> Greetings everyone, JP and I will be answering any questions you have
[28-May-2009 10:02:32] <Weetos> genji0714> this may mean that zenoss doesn't care what's being answered
[28-May-2009 10:03:15] <genji0714> Weetos>?? Zenoss is ignoring what the switches are responding?
[28-May-2009 10:03:30] <Weetos> genji0714> it seems ... don't know why
[28-May-2009 10:03:53] <Dieterbe> Hi, when I add a Server/Linux and have snmp working (I have cpu, memory etc graphs), shouldn't i also get network graphs for the interfaces? i tried going to the device->os->interfaces, select them and do "enable monitoring" but this does not give me graphs
[28-May-2009 10:03:55] <genji0714> Weetos> Yea....arghh zenoss zenoss zenoss....
[28-May-2009 10:04:07] <Dieterbe> @ mrayzenoss^^
[28-May-2009 10:04:40] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - yup - you should see each interface under the os tab - shouldn't need to activate monitoring
[28-May-2009 10:04:51] <genji0714> npmccallum_>About half of my switches are reporting that the SNMP agent is down. when in fact it is not...i am able to do an snmpwalk from Zenoss and the other half of the switches that have the exact same config..some even in the same net closet work just fine
[28-May-2009 10:05:02] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: Debian 5 right?
[28-May-2009 10:05:03] <Dieterbe> Jane_Curry: but i want graphs
[28-May-2009 10:05:24] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: no, 4.0
[28-May-2009 10:06:06] <npmccallum_> genji0714: you probably don't have the right snmp community or snmp version
[28-May-2009 10:06:19] <npmccallum_> genji0714: some switches are only v1
[28-May-2009 10:06:19] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: yes you should be getting graphs for your network interfaces
[28-May-2009 10:06:22] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - you should have em - is your snmp agent configured ok? If you do an snmpwalk of the interfaces table for the device, do you get the right data?
[28-May-2009 10:06:34] <genji0714> npmccallum> I have checked the comm and snmp version
[28-May-2009 10:06:34] <Younger> mrayzenoss and JP: i have a router with snmp version set to v2c. so ethernetCsmacd_64 should be used instead of ethernetCsmacd. but the interface throughput graph is still drawn using ethernetCsmacd. Does any one know how to force ethernetCsmacd_64?
[28-May-2009 10:07:52] <mrayzenoss> Younger: you have the ethernetCsmacd_64 template bound?
[28-May-2009 10:07:52] <npmccallum_> genji0714: what happens when you go into the templates for the device, open an snmp data source and run "test" against one of the switches
[28-May-2009 10:08:04] <genji0714> npmmccallum>I am using snmpv3..and i have the exact same switch model...same IOS in the same closet that works just fine. I am able to do a snmpwalk from zenoss and it works fine on the same switch that is reporting that snmp agent is down. I have tried debugging zenperfsnmp with no luck...I am done a tcpdump to no avail...i just don't know where to turn now.
[28-May-2009 10:08:23] <genji0714> npmmccallum>let me try
[28-May-2009 10:09:18] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - another thought. When you click on an interface, what do you actually see? Nothing? Graph templates but no lines or data? Or graph otlines with values of "nan"?
[28-May-2009 10:09:30] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss / Jane_Curry , oh i just have to click on the interface name to see the graphs. i thought they would show up under "Perf" . is there a way to just see all bytes/sec graphs for all interfaces (you know, one image with multiple graphs)
[28-May-2009 10:09:39] <Younger> mrayzenoss: By default, both ethernetCsmacd and ethernetCsmacd_64 are bound to /Devices.
[28-May-2009 10:11:08] <genji0714> npmmccallum>this is what I get....Executing command snmpwalk -c -v3 10.12.241.13 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10 against ad-a-2960-13.admin.rhnet.org Timeout: No Response from 10.12.241.13 DONE in 6 seconds
[28-May-2009 10:11:31] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - sounds like you have found the graphs then??? The interface graphs are "special" in that their templates are bound automatically based on the name of your interface (like ethernetCsmacd)
[28-May-2009 10:13:06] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - what you will see under the Performance tab are graphs for any other (non-component) performance templates that you have bound for the particular device
[28-May-2009 10:13:55] <Jane_Curry> Just loaded up Zenoss 2.4.1 as a fresh install - like the extra panels for creating user and device discovery...
[28-May-2009 10:14:21] <Jane_Curry> ... before I go too much further, is 2.4.2 imminent???
[28-May-2009 10:14:32] <ian_> Relatively so, yes.
[28-May-2009 10:14:51] <jplouis> Dieterbe - you might get the graph you want by creating a custom Multi-Graph report
[28-May-2009 10:15:08] <genji0714> npmmccallum>I acutally ran the same thing against one of the switches that is gathering snmp data and it timed out also....
[28-May-2009 10:16:27] <Jane_Curry> ian_ - days or a week or two (without any implied committment...)
[28-May-2009 10:16:59] <jplouis> not days
[28-May-2009 10:17:57] <Jane_Curry> Performance threshold question - I want a threshold based on an expression of SNMP MIB variables
[28-May-2009 10:17:59] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: you can watch progress on 2.4.2 here: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[28-May-2009 10:18:19] <ian_> Yeah, as long as no commitment, hopefully by end of next week? I think.
[28-May-2009 10:18:33] <ian_> I may have made that up entirely.
[28-May-2009 10:18:40] <mrayzenoss> you did
[28-May-2009 10:19:03] <ian_> I try to put things together from the bits I glean during meetings, but rarely do I get a fair representation of reality.
[28-May-2009 10:19:06] <npmccallum_> genji0714: there is a syntax error in that command, considering that the '-c' is empty
[28-May-2009 10:19:38] <Dieterbe> thanks Jane_Curry and jplouis . what i basically want is a centralized overview of the "perf" properties, but also the bytes/sec graphs for the interfaces, so i can easily compare the amount of network traffic to cpu load for example
[28-May-2009 10:19:49] <genji0714> npmmcallum: is it something I have done...or is it a bug?
[28-May-2009 10:20:03] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: what thresholds do you need? I've gotten several new ZenPacks for custom thresholds from rocket
[28-May-2009 10:20:06] <Jane_Curry> I can create a graph based on SNMP expressions by using my own graph command but that doesn't get me an actual datapoint and I think I can only threshold on datapoints?
[28-May-2009 10:21:47] <rocket> Jane_Curry: I believe at the moment you can only threshold on datapoints as you have indicated ..
[28-May-2009 10:22:02] <Weetos> mrayzenoss> the broken map bug that appeared in 2.4.0 (see http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9714) isn't fixed in 2.4.1 and I can't seem to find a ticket about that issue - Does that mean we're only a few users experiencing that problem ?
[28-May-2009 10:22:10] <Jane_Curry> probaly simple SNMP expressions like oid1 - oid2 (or even oid1 oid2 - if I have to do it in Reverse Polish!)
[28-May-2009 10:23:56] <Jane_Curry> Has anyone managed to craft an rrd create command to create a datafile based on an expression?
[28-May-2009 10:25:05] <rocket> Jane_Curry: not an expression .. but I have a threshold that creates custom rrd files
[28-May-2009 10:26:23] <Jane_Curry> rocket - not with you there? You have a (single oid) threshold that create an rrd datafile??
[28-May-2009 10:27:26] <rocket> Jane_Curry: yes .. I have submitted it to matt .. but since it replicates some enterprise functionality I dont really want to elaborate too much until they announce it
[28-May-2009 10:27:39] <Jane_Curry> ok
[28-May-2009 10:28:05] <tyler79> does anyone know how to deal with the issue where zentrap core dums on freebsd?
[28-May-2009 10:28:10] <Jane_Curry> Matt - is there anything in the pipeline that might address thresholding on an expression??
[28-May-2009 10:28:14] <rocket> its possible to do what you want from a threshold .. but its sort of a hacked way to do it
[28-May-2009 10:28:59] <rocket> Jane_Curry: basically zenpacks need to be extended to support custom datapoint definitions using expressions in an rrdfile I think
[28-May-2009 10:29:17] <rocket> Jane_Curry: and then the thresholds can be used against that
[28-May-2009 10:29:38] <genji0714> npmccallum_: do you have any suggestions of how I could futher troubleshoot this issue?
[28-May-2009 10:29:45] <rocket> Jane_Curry: otherwise if you do it per threshold you have to make a new threshold type for every custom threshold that comes out
[28-May-2009 10:29:57] <rocket> Jane_Curry: Make sense?
[28-May-2009 10:30:10] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: nothing from Zenoss development that I'm aware of for new threshold types
[28-May-2009 10:30:11] <npmccallum_> ian_: any suggestions for genji0714 ?
[28-May-2009 10:30:31] <Jane_Curry> Yup - with you - I guess it depends on Zenoss delivering (which doesn't sound scheduled)
[28-May-2009 10:30:32] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: but I'll be pushing people to use rocket's thresholds more once I get them all out
[28-May-2009 10:31:04] <mrayzenoss> I'm putting together a post to announce the planned King Crab features sometime soon
[28-May-2009 10:31:13] <Jane_Curry> matt - are rocket's ZenPacks available now or still in the pipeline??
[28-May-2009 10:31:21] <mrayzenoss> his Point Threshold is out
[28-May-2009 10:31:26] <mrayzenoss> and only works with 2.4
[28-May-2009 10:31:40] <mrayzenoss> I've got the Predictive Threshold and Range
[28-May-2009 10:31:42] <rocket> all thresholds only work with 2.4
[28-May-2009 10:31:49] <Jane_Curry> ok - got that - what ZenPack am I looking for
[28-May-2009 10:31:54] <mrayzenoss> I've just been swamped so far, good response on the ZenPack contest so far
[28-May-2009 10:31:56] <rocket> Jane_Curry: predictive is the one I was referring to
[28-May-2009 10:32:02] <ian_> npmccallum_: Actually I missed most of the conversation, as I lost power. So, no.
[28-May-2009 10:32:21] <rocket> Jane_Curry: it creates the predictive rrd for use in that threshold
[28-May-2009 10:32:23] <npmccallum_> ian_: its mostly about snmpv3, which I have no experience with
[28-May-2009 10:32:33] <ian_> npmccallum_: me either.
[28-May-2009 10:32:38] <ian_> jplouis?
[28-May-2009 10:32:39] <npmccallum_>
[28-May-2009 10:34:32] <genji0714> npmmccallum_: it is the weirdest thing! If it didn't work on anything it wouldn't be so frustrating...but because it works on some of the switches it is driving me nuts! I appreciate your help though!
[28-May-2009 10:34:57] <Jane_Curry> Is this the "PointThreshold" ZenPack that we are referring to??
[28-May-2009 10:35:30] <rocket> Jane_Curry: the Point threshold sets off an alert at a value
[28-May-2009 10:35:30] <jplouis> I didn't quite understand the snmpv3 problem. A ticket or forum post may be easier to follow.
[28-May-2009 10:35:45] <rocket> Jane_Curry: eg 4.0 just that single value
[28-May-2009 10:35:59] <genji0714> jplous: I do have a forum post...not many hits
[28-May-2009 10:36:12] <Jane_Curry> rocket - is this the correct ZenPack though that you and Matt have been referring to?
[28-May-2009 10:36:28] <rocket> Jane_Curry: Predictive threshold .. in the pipeline yet
[28-May-2009 10:36:47] <jplouis> genji0714 - link?
[28-May-2009 10:37:06] <genji0714> where is the 'test' on the data sources pulling in the snmpwalk command info from?
[28-May-2009 10:37:32] <Jane_Curry> ok - gotcha - I'll look out for the predictive threshold one
[28-May-2009 10:37:32] <genji0714> jploous:http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9884
[28-May-2009 10:41:45] <npmccallum_> genji0714: in my experience, "works sometimes" == configuration issue
[28-May-2009 10:42:56] <genji0714> npmmccallum_: yea...I went down that road..I made sure that Zenoss was configured right...i have the zproperties set on the switch container so it affects all the switches...i then reconfigured one of the troublesome switches to no avail....
[28-May-2009 10:43:25] <npmccallum_> genji0714: are you sure the snmp settings aren't overridden on the devices themselves?
[28-May-2009 10:44:37] <genji0714> npmccallum_: overridden??
[28-May-2009 10:45:08] <genji0714> npmccallum_: i can snmpwalk them with the settings I have put in Zenoss so I am assuming that everything is good....all show commands on the switch indicate it is all good
[28-May-2009 10:45:15] <Jane_Curry> genji0714 - is there anything in the event console or the logs? If the problem is with the OID instance, this often shows up in the event console as a debud severity (ie normally hidden)
[28-May-2009 10:45:29] <npmccallum_> genji0714: navigate to the device, from the page menu choose More -> zProperties
[28-May-2009 10:45:51] <genji0714> OK
[28-May-2009 10:45:58] <genji0714> npmccallum_:OK
[28-May-2009 10:48:01] <jplouis> genji0714 - Are you asking for the test command code that generates the snmpwalk on the datasource?
[28-May-2009 10:48:14] <npmccallum_> genji0714: check your snmp community, etc
[28-May-2009 10:48:25] <genji0714> npmccallum_: yea the settings are correct...
[28-May-2009 10:48:45] <npmccallum_> genji0714: idk then
[28-May-2009 10:49:09] <genji0714> jplouis: the test command...where does it pull its info to decided with command switches to use ---> Ie. -c -v3?
[28-May-2009 10:49:33] <jplouis> genji0714 - it is in python code, not configurable
[28-May-2009 10:49:44] <genji0714> jplouis: I dunno....I am really grasping for straws at this point...
[28-May-2009 10:49:58] <genji0714> i need to get monitoring for my switches up and going....
[28-May-2009 10:50:04] <jplouis> genji0714 - it is in BasicDataSource.py
[28-May-2009 10:50:19] <genji0714> jplouis: OK, thanks
[28-May-2009 10:50:26] <jplouis> "snmpwalk -c%(zSnmpCommunity)s "
[28-May-2009 10:50:26] <jplouis> "-%(zSnmpVer)s %(manageIp)s %(oid)s"
[28-May-2009 10:50:43] <jplouis> it generates it from the zProperties on the Device
[28-May-2009 10:51:05] <Jane_Curry> genji0714 - anything in zenhub.log or events.log?
[28-May-2009 10:51:13] <npmccallum_> genji0714: you'll notice that in the "test against device" results you posted above, the '-c' was *not* followed by a community string
[28-May-2009 10:51:24] <genji0714> jplouis: oh...here is another weird thing...when I model the switch that reports 'snmp agent down' it pulls in snmp data such as the snpm desc.....
[28-May-2009 10:51:39] <npmccallum_> genji0714: that would be my guess, that zSnmpCommunity is not being filled in for some reason
[28-May-2009 10:51:45] <genji0714> jplouis:yea....which makes sense I have no snmp comm strings because I am using snmpv3
[28-May-2009 10:52:32] <npmccallum_> genji0714: ok, I unfortunately know little about snmpv3...
[28-May-2009 10:52:42] <npmccallum_> most of our customers find v3 too much of a pain to implement
[28-May-2009 10:53:05] <jplouis> genji0714 - did you try an snmp get like the forum suggested? The actual collection uses get
[28-May-2009 10:53:05] <genji0714> npmccallum_> it is fully supported though correct?
[28-May-2009 10:53:13] <Jane_Curry> But there are those customers who insist on it - it's not that hard when you've done one!
[28-May-2009 10:53:34] <genji0714> jplouis> I have not yet done an snmpget....
[28-May-2009 10:53:36] <Jane_Curry> I have used SNMP V3 successfully from Zenoss to net-snmp agents
[28-May-2009 10:53:40] <npmccallum_> genji0714: yes, it is fully supported, you're just asking the wrong guy
[28-May-2009 10:54:02] <npmccallum_> genji0714: I should point out that we do not yet support snmpv3 traps
[28-May-2009 10:54:04] <genji0714> npmccallum_:
[28-May-2009 10:54:33] <genji0714> npmccallum_: yea I read that some where which is all good....I dont't use traps..(yet)
[28-May-2009 10:56:06] <jmp242> not really related to SNMPv3, but I have occasionally on an overloaded Windows desktop box seen SNMP down alerts in Zenoss, but they go away when the load eases up.
[28-May-2009 10:56:22] <jmp242> I don't suppose there's a load difference in your switched genji0714
[28-May-2009 10:56:51] <genji0714> jmp242: no.
[28-May-2009 10:57:35] <jmp242> do the switch logs (if there are any) on the failing switches show anything useful
[28-May-2009 10:57:40] <jmp242> like an auth failure or anything
[28-May-2009 10:57:43] <genji0714> no
[28-May-2009 10:58:01] <genji0714> i have even done debug commands on the switch to see the traffic coming in
[28-May-2009 10:59:07] <Jane_Curry> ... and the traffic arrives at the switch??? Didi the TCPDUMP on your Zenoss system show a response coming back?
[28-May-2009 10:59:37] <genji0714> yrea
[28-May-2009 10:59:39] <genji0714> yea..
[28-May-2009 10:59:49] <genji0714> as far as I can tell
[28-May-2009 11:00:32] <jmp242> you're not running any firewall on the zenoss box are you?
[28-May-2009 11:00:35] <Jane_Curry> Can you configure a switch so that it DOES send TRAPs (V1 or V2) to the Zenoss system - if the problem is authentication then you should get an authentication TRAP
[28-May-2009 11:01:45] <tyler79> zentrap is core dumping for me on freebsd 7.2. Here's the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/d6f53c6a9
[28-May-2009 11:01:51] <tyler79> can anyone take a look?
[28-May-2009 11:02:02] <genji0714> Jane_Curry: I will try that
[28-May-2009 11:02:23] <genji0714> jmp242: no
[28-May-2009 11:03:00] <genji0714> i just did a successful snmpget
[28-May-2009 11:04:37] <genji0714> so I am looking at the tcpdump file and it just doesn't give me any info..maybe I am missing something...there is packets going back and fourth also some snmpgetnetxt request...no sure what I am looking for
[28-May-2009 11:07:18] <tyler79> actually, I get a similar core dump when I try to add a device: http://pastebin.com/m3abbf5c9
[28-May-2009 11:10:36] <mrayzenoss> tyler79: I'm not sure what the issue is, perhaps some of the other FreeBSD users might chime in? perr0, caseyh or sergey if you see them
[28-May-2009 11:12:11] <Jane_Curry> tyler79 - sorry - looked at you dumps - no idea
[28-May-2009 11:12:45] <Jane_Curry> Another gory ZenPack question....
[28-May-2009 11:13:31] <Jane_Curry> If I have written my own data collector modeler plugin, I can get table data from various different MIB tables..
[28-May-2009 11:14:12] <Jane_Curry> .. how do I cope with mutiple data tables that have DIFFERENT instance indexes?
[28-May-2009 11:15:02] <Jane_Curry> As far as I know, i can only pass back 1 set of snmpindexes and that is what will then be used for performance data
[28-May-2009 11:15:47] <Jane_Curry> I want some performance graphs to get data from instances 1 nd 2, and some graphs to use instances 3 and 4
[28-May-2009 11:18:41] <Jane_Curry> The other way to look at this would be...
[28-May-2009 11:19:40] <Jane_Curry> How to write skins files for a performance graph that uses a different snmpindex than what is on the object - say snmpindex+2 ???
[28-May-2009 11:24:24] <Jane_Curry> Is anyone thyere??? No ideas??
[28-May-2009 11:26:17] <npmccallum_> Jane_Curry: probably the easiest way is to write a zencommand
[28-May-2009 11:32:20] <ganiman> hello
[28-May-2009 11:33:26] <venturaville> anyone have a really large infrastructure that might have some tuning tips?
[28-May-2009 11:34:27] <ganiman> what is large? lol
[28-May-2009 11:34:58] <venturaville> thousands of devices, and 100Ks of data points
[28-May-2009 11:35:09] <ganiman> we use zenoss to monitor 2500+ devices
[28-May-2009 11:35:10] <npmccallum_> venturaville: "tuning tips" don't really mean anything
[28-May-2009 11:35:20] <mrayzenoss> there are some tips on these threads: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6230 http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=21843
[28-May-2009 11:35:41] <mrayzenoss> ganiman: Largest Core install on 1 box I know of is 8500 devices
[28-May-2009 11:35:52] <ganiman> we use many boxes
[28-May-2009 11:36:08] <npmccallum_> venturaville: what problems are you having?
[28-May-2009 11:36:26] <npmccallum_> (if you aren't having any, you probably don't need any tuning advice)
[28-May-2009 11:36:30] <venturaville> not entirely certain, although zenhub is eating up most of the CPU time
[28-May-2009 11:36:37] Joao is now known as JoaoS
[28-May-2009 11:36:38] <venturaville> have 3 workers running now
[28-May-2009 11:37:16] <venturaville> that 2nd link looked interesting
[28-May-2009 11:37:29] <venturaville> but most of our disk I/O goes to a SAN anyway
[28-May-2009 11:37:41] <npmccallum_> what is your load?
[28-May-2009 11:38:49] <ganiman> can someone help me with an rrdtool graph command? I'd like to do something similar to how zenoss draws the threshold lines on graphs. If the threshold line has a far greater value than other lines being drawn, I don't want the threshold line to stretch my graph out - I'd rather just not draw it, and this is the behavior graphs generated in zenoss have.
[28-May-2009 11:39:21] <venturaville> load average is not that informative (it has 4 cores)
[28-May-2009 11:39:44] <venturaville> but it tourinley spikes around 80% CPU utilization
[28-May-2009 11:39:52] <venturaville> tourinley -> routinely
[28-May-2009 11:40:20] <npmccallum_> is zenhub using all your CPU or is it mostly IO Wait?
[28-May-2009 11:40:22] <venturaville> snmp collection time has climbed to about 140 seconds on average and spikes around 4 minutes
[28-May-2009 11:41:07] <venturaville> CPU wait averages about 2.3%
[28-May-2009 11:41:21] <npmccallum_> not cpu wait, iowait
[28-May-2009 11:41:28] <venturaville> was getting to that :-)
[28-May-2009 11:41:33] <venturaville> had to wait on iostat to run
[28-May-2009 11:41:51] <npmccallum_> what does top say?
[28-May-2009 11:41:57] <venturaville> await is about 10.63 on the data disks
[28-May-2009 11:42:34] <venturaville> top's wait is CPU wait........
[28-May-2009 11:42:48] <venturaville> iostat iowait% is about 0.5 - 1
[28-May-2009 11:43:03] <npmccallum_> ok, so it is likely not a disk bottleneck
[28-May-2009 11:43:25] <venturaville> doesn't look it, though I suppose it could be spiking in there somewhere
[28-May-2009 11:49:00] <mrayzenoss> Thanks for showing up everyone, I'll have the transcript up later this afternoon
[28-May-2009 11:49:24] <kisielk> question about tcp/ip service monitoring. For some services like rsync and SSH, I end up with a whole bunch of crap in the syslog. eg "Did not receive identification string from 10.3.0.68"
[28-May-2009 11:49:39] <kisielk> any way to work around that while still monitoring the services? I don't recall having this problem when I ran Nagios
[28-May-2009 11:50:02] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: map the events to get dropped
[28-May-2009 11:50:38] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: I assume they're coming in as /Unknown ?
[28-May-2009 11:50:57] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: you're saying that Zenoss service monitoring is causing syslog messages right?
[28-May-2009 11:51:05] <kisielk> yeah, it's not a matter of mapping it in Zenoss
[28-May-2009 11:51:15] <kisielk> but the logs in /var/log/messages on the servers get full of this stuff
[28-May-2009 11:51:25] <kisielk> and it makes it extremely difficult to read the logs
[28-May-2009 11:51:35] <mrayzenoss> ahhh
[28-May-2009 11:51:37] <kisielk> in Zenoss I already drop the events
[28-May-2009 11:54:13] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: I don't really have a good answer for that
[28-May-2009 11:54:50] <mrayzenoss> perhaps there's a setting in the sshd.conf or with rsync for turning down logging
[28-May-2009 11:55:04] <rocket> kisielk: using syslog-ng?
[28-May-2009 11:55:13] <kisielk> rocket: yes
[28-May-2009 11:55:33] <rocket> kisielk: create a filter in syslog-ng to send those to /dev/null first?
[28-May-2009 11:56:05] <kisielk> yeah I thought of that, but I don't like the idea of regexp filtering messages on all my servers
[28-May-2009 11:56:34] <rocket> hrmm I see .. I assumed you were doing central syslogging
[28-May-2009 11:56:44] <rocket> and you would just filter on the central server
[28-May-2009 12:02:39] <kisielk> well, we do that too
[28-May-2009 12:02:52] <kisielk> but it's useful to be able to see the logs on an individual machine
[28-May-2009 12:03:00] <kisielk> if you're working on it, and want to see log output
[28-May-2009 12:04:20] <rocket> kisielk: I usually do something like cat|grep -v <filter string> > /tmp/x and just look at the temporary file etc
[28-May-2009 12:04:49] <kisielk> yeah, that's nice if I know what I'm looking for
[28-May-2009 12:09:35] <rocket> kisielk: the -v removes the crap etc
[28-May-2009 12:09:58] <rocket> eg if you see a bunch of stuff that is crap you can remove it etc
[28-May-2009 12:10:39] <rocket> cat log|grep -v "ping status"|grep -v "Did not receive identification string from" > /tmp/x
[28-May-2009 12:10:42] <rocket> for example
[28-May-2009 12:10:47] <kisielk> yes, but it would be preferable if that crap was not there in the first place
[28-May-2009 12:10:54] <kisielk> it also tends to fill up the logs rather quickly
[28-May-2009 12:11:02] <rocket> kisielk: where is it coming from? zenoss itself?
[28-May-2009 12:11:08] <mrayzenoss> rocket: yeah
[28-May-2009 12:11:13] <kisielk> well yes, Zenoss connects to the SSH port
[28-May-2009 12:11:20] <kisielk> and then immediately drops the connection
[28-May-2009 12:11:27] <mrayzenoss> the act of monitoring the services is filling his logs with junk
[28-May-2009 12:11:40] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ah .. from the ssh connection .. got it
[28-May-2009 12:12:29] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: open a ticket, maybe there's something we're overlooking and we'll look into it
[28-May-2009 12:13:40] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I am looking for a fix .. I think I have an idea now ..
[28-May-2009 12:17:10] <rocket> kisielk: are you just checking port 22 is alive?
[28-May-2009 12:17:38] <kisielk> well, I'm just using the network services portion of nagios
[28-May-2009 12:17:41] <kisielk> er
[28-May-2009 12:17:42] <kisielk> zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:17:54] <rocket> kisielk: thats what is doing it
[28-May-2009 12:18:03] <rocket> kisielk: you are monitoring ssh status from that
[28-May-2009 12:18:12] <kisielk> yes, I assumed that's what it's for
[28-May-2009 12:18:14] <rocket> kisielk: it connects to the port and immediately closes
[28-May-2009 12:18:23] <rocket> kisielk: ssh doesnt like it
[28-May-2009 12:18:37] <kisielk> yeah, I knew that, sorry if I wasn't too clear about it
[28-May-2009 12:18:50] <kisielk> the question was more, is there a way to make it work without SSH complaining so much
[28-May-2009 12:19:24] <kisielk> because apart from that, I think the functionality provided by that feature is really good
[28-May-2009 12:20:07] <rocket> kisielk: I still think your best bet is to filter in syslog-ng on each system as it should always be the same ip indicated in the log
[28-May-2009 12:20:18] <rocket> kisielk: I dont thing I would do a regex as much as a string
[28-May-2009 12:20:27] <kisielk> hm yes, that's true
[28-May-2009 12:20:27] <rocket> s/thing/think/
[28-May-2009 12:20:54] <rocket> kisielk: as a string it should be pretty safe
[28-May-2009 12:21:04] <mdydyk> hey, i had what i hope is a quick question, is it possible to make zentrap listen on an additional port for snmp traps?
[28-May-2009 12:24:27] <rocket> mdydyk: have you tried creating a second config file and starting a second instance of zentrap using that new config file?
[28-May-2009 12:25:30] <mdydyk> rocket, nope, is that all i need to do? i found the configs under the settings section, so i just duplicate it and maybe call it zentrap2 or something? what tells zenoss to start the 2nd instance of it?
[28-May-2009 12:26:03] <rocket> mdydyk: possibly .. I havent tried myself .. but its what I would look at doing myself
[28-May-2009 12:26:16] <mdydyk> yeah that sounds very logical
[28-May-2009 12:27:39] <rocket> mdydyk: most likely you need to find the bin/zentrap and create bin/zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:28:11] <rocket> mdydyk: to have your new one started automatically I would edit bin/zenoss also
[28-May-2009 12:28:18] <mdydyk> hmm, i'm trying to figure out what file starts the other processes
[28-May-2009 12:29:32] <rocket> anyway bin/zentrap2 would specify the new zentrap2.conf
[28-May-2009 12:29:45] <rocket> and update that conf to have the new port ..
[28-May-2009 12:30:55] <mdydyk> looks like maybe i can stick it in bin/zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:31:17] <rocket> mdydyk: didnt I say that?
[28-May-2009 12:31:56] <mdydyk> oh yeah
[28-May-2009 12:31:59] <mdydyk> oops
[28-May-2009 12:47:16] <mdydyk> hmm, getting there i guess, it's confusing zentrap with zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:47:22] <mdydyk> Daemon: zentrap starting...
[28-May-2009 12:47:22] <mdydyk> Daemon: zentrap2 is already running
[28-May-2009 12:47:30] <mdydyk> oh duh, i know why
[28-May-2009 12:47:40] <mdydyk> i didnt change the python script in bin/zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:55:22] <mdydyk> rocket, looks like that worked exactly how i wanted it to
[28-May-2009 12:55:33] <mdydyk> all i did was duplicate everything, and add zentrap2 to bin/zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:55:50] <mdydyk> i noticed the zentrap.conf file was blank for some reason, editing and re-saving it from the GUI wrote out a correct config tho
[28-May-2009 12:56:41] <rocket> mdydyk: sounds good
[28-May-2009 12:56:52] <mdydyk> thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i knew it had to be do-able
[28-May-2009 12:57:30] <mdydyk> i dont know why this platform insists on sending it's traps to port 8162, but at least i was able to workaround it without tinkering with the other side
[28-May-2009 13:07:15] <perr0> were caseyh @ y0
[28-May-2009 13:07:24] <kwame> Hi, I'm just starting the installer of zenoos, and it tells me that the root password for mysql should be "alphanumeric charachters only"
[28-May-2009 13:07:33] <kwame> but my root password includes !
[28-May-2009 13:07:47] <kwame> is there a way aroung that "feature"/"requirement" ?
[28-May-2009 13:07:59] <kwame> it seems kind of lame that the password should be all charachters
[28-May-2009 13:09:04] <edwardam> Any pointers on taking an existing install and split up the zenhubs ?
[28-May-2009 13:09:16] <mrayzenoss> kwame: agreed http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3550
[28-May-2009 13:09:29] <mrayzenoss> kwame: we just haven't fixed it yet, so the work-around is to doc it
[28-May-2009 13:10:16] <kwame> mrayzenoss: "doc it"?
[28-May-2009 13:10:30] <mrayzenoss> kwame: tell people not to use things we know will break it
[28-May-2009 13:12:07] <kwame> :?
[28-May-2009 13:12:15] <kwame> I hope you are joking
[28-May-2009 13:14:36] <mrayzenoss> I'm not saying it was intentionally broken from the beginning
[28-May-2009 13:15:13] <mrayzenoss> we just haven't gotten around to fixing it yet
[28-May-2009 13:15:18] <mrayzenoss> (patches are always welcome)
[28-May-2009 13:16:00] <kwame> mrayzenoss: can I create an user and give it full privileges and use that user for the install?
[28-May-2009 13:16:22] <kwame> or there is no way around it and I need to change the mysql root password?
[28-May-2009 13:16:49] <mrayzenoss> so you're using an existing mysql or you want to change the mysql installed with Zenoss?
[28-May-2009 13:17:01] <mrayzenoss> I think you can change it either way
[28-May-2009 13:17:18] <mrayzenoss> I don't know why the installer has that limitation, but you can change it post-install
[28-May-2009 13:17:40] <kwame> mrayzenoss: now I'm even more confused
[28-May-2009 13:17:51] <mrayzenoss> ok. Which installer are you using?
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[28-May-2009 13:18:02] <kwame> mrayzenoss: ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin
[28-May-2009 13:18:16] <kwame> mrayzenoss: so, I run the installer and I get to this question: Please enter your database root user password
[28-May-2009 13:18:20] <mrayzenoss> ok, the stack installer will try to install MySQL for Zenoss to use
[28-May-2009 13:18:21] <kwame> MySQL Server root password :
[28-May-2009 13:18:33] <mrayzenoss> our own instance
[28-May-2009 13:18:39] <kwame> ah, but I already have mysql running on that host
[28-May-2009 13:20:12] <mrayzenoss> ah nuts, I found that the Install Guide says to refer to the Admin Guide for how to do that
[28-May-2009 13:20:17] <mrayzenoss> and I can't find it in the Admin Guide
[28-May-2009 13:20:22] <mrayzenoss> just a minute
[28-May-2009 13:23:34] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I think I found how
[28-May-2009 13:23:52] <kwame> --mysql_database_name --mysql_database_username --mysql_database_password
[28-May-2009 13:25:33] <kwame> oh,
[28-May-2009 13:26:36] <kwame> So I'm doing this --> ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin --mysql_port 3306 --mysql_database_name zenoss --mysql_database_username dan --mysql_database_password PassworD
[28-May-2009 13:27:07] <kwame> and I get to this section : Please enter your MySQL database information: MySQL Server port [3306]:
[28-May-2009 13:27:08] <mrayzenoss> I thought your password had a "!" in it
[28-May-2009 13:27:16] <kwame> But I get this error
[28-May-2009 13:27:17] <kwame> Warning: It seems you do not have enough permissions to bind to the port or the
[28-May-2009 13:27:17] <kwame> port is already taken by another application. Please select another one.
[28-May-2009 13:27:18] <kwame> Press [Enter] to continue :
[28-May-2009 13:27:38] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I created this user with full access to the DB, and created a database named zenoss
[28-May-2009 13:27:57] <kwame> I thought that by passing those flags to the stack installer, that would connect to the running instance of the DB
[28-May-2009 13:28:06] <kwame> but it's still trying to create it's own DB server
[28-May-2009 13:34:14] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I just grabbed the rpm (I'm installing it on CentOS 5.3) and it worked
[28-May-2009 13:34:37] <kwame> I'm reading on the documentation that I should install the Zenoss Core ZenPacks, but I can't find that rpm in the download page
[28-May-2009 13:34:41] <kwame> any directrions?
[28-May-2009 13:34:47] <mrayzenoss> kwame: sorry for the grief, where were those flags documented? I'm opening a doc ticket related to remote mysql installs
[28-May-2009 13:35:09] <mrayzenoss> kwame: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/#corezenpacks
[28-May-2009 13:35:13] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I found them with ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin --help
[28-May-2009 13:35:24] <kwame> mrayzenoss: no grief at all, happy to help out
[28-May-2009 13:35:27] <mrayzenoss> kwame: thanks, I'll make sure that gets documented better
[28-May-2009 13:36:42] <kwame> mrayzenoss: thanks, I followed the link you gave me to http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/all-core-zenpacks
[28-May-2009 14:00:56] <mloven> hi all
[28-May-2009 14:09:16] <mloven> I have a data source question if anyone feels up to it...
[28-May-2009 14:10:34] <mrayzenoss> sure
[28-May-2009 14:10:38] <mrayzenoss> I'll try
[28-May-2009 14:10:49] <mloven> Is it possible to create a data source that is a result of dividing two other data sources?
[28-May-2009 14:11:31] <mrayzenoss> could you give an example of what you want?
[28-May-2009 14:12:09] <mloven> yeah, I thought that might not be the best description. I'll elaborate...
[28-May-2009 14:12:43] <mloven> let's say I have an oid that give me the total number of logins to a device. And I have an oid that will return the number of failed logins.
[28-May-2009 14:13:04] <mloven> But I'm really only interested in what percentage of logins actually fail....
[28-May-2009 14:13:20] <mrayzenoss> probably want to do it with a zencommand
[28-May-2009 14:13:44] <mrayzenoss> script getting the 2 oids and do whatever calculation you need in the script
[28-May-2009 14:13:46] <mrayzenoss> or in RRD
[28-May-2009 14:14:18] <mloven> ok. two good ideas. Thanks Matt!
[28-May-2009 14:14:57] <mrayzenoss> good luck
[28-May-2009 14:38:48] <cgibbons> hmmm
[28-May-2009 14:39:35] <mrayzenoss> something not working cgibbons?
[28-May-2009 14:39:49] <cgibbons> always, but I just realized I hadn't even looked here since I started it this morning
[28-May-2009 14:40:08] <mrayzenoss> it's been a fun day
[28-May-2009 14:40:46] <mrayzenoss> but now, I need to get cranking on getting ZenPacks out
[28-May-2009 15:53:24] <AngryParsley> is there a zenpack that can do an http request, look at the response (which is XML in this case), and alert based on whether or not a value in the response is > some number?
[28-May-2009 15:56:14] <mrayzenoss> have you tried HTTP Monitor?
[28-May-2009 15:56:16] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[28-May-2009 15:56:43] <AngryParsley> I have not. I just got admin rights at work on a test box with zenoss
[28-May-2009 15:57:16] <AngryParsley> that's kind of what I want, but the XML contains a number that is basically the number of seconds since a backup happened
[28-May-2009 15:57:34] <AngryParsley> and I want to alert if a backup hasn't been done in the past X hours
[28-May-2009 16:04:24] <jmp242> Well, I guess you could write a command datasource
[28-May-2009 16:04:45] <jmp242> like I did when I wanted to scrape off a webpage from a printer the percentage used toner
[28-May-2009 16:04:59] <AngryParsley> ah, like a shell/python/whatever script that parses the XML and returns 0 or nonzero?
[28-May-2009 16:05:05] <jmp242> use wget and then output the value
[28-May-2009 16:05:08] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's even easier
[28-May-2009 16:05:11] <jmp242> use a threshold
[28-May-2009 16:05:19] <jmp242> for where you want the alert in Zenoss I guess
[28-May-2009 16:05:34] <jmp242> though you could have the logic in the script if you don't want a graph
[28-May-2009 16:05:35] <AngryParsley> I am a total zenoss newb, so I don't really know what it can do
[28-May-2009 16:06:12] <jmp242> well . . . start with the admin guide and perhaps the various FAQs: trac-zenpacks/wiki/CommunityFAQGeneral
[28-May-2009 16:06:32] <jmp242> there's too much for us to really help with without some background knowledge
[28-May-2009 16:06:49] <mrayzenoss> AngryParsley: there's a Getting Started with Zenoss webinar next Tuesday
[28-May-2009 16:06:52] <jmp242> But, yes, you can use shell/ python/perl etc
[28-May-2009 16:06:58] <jmp242> in the command datasouce...
[28-May-2009 16:07:25] <AngryParsley> neat
[28-May-2009 16:07:34] <AngryParsley> I will probably over-rely on that then
[28-May-2009 16:09:19] <jmp242> I think Command Datasources are the easiest way to extend Zenoss
[28-May-2009 16:09:30] <jmp242> certainly, it's what I like to use, not being a proficient coder
[28-May-2009 19:21:56] <AngryParsley> the command data sources are sweet. thanks for pointing them out
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[29-May-2009 03:28:26] <sergeymasushko> I've added snmp datasource in the template, specified OID. when I enter device name and click the 'test' button on the 'edit datasource' page I got the result. however RRD graphs on a perf page is not generated and I see events e.g. 'Error reading value for "Active DS0s" on cisco01.mycompany.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.19.1.1.4 is bad). where can be the problem?
[29-May-2009 04:43:58] <Dieterbe> Hi,I installed and configured the apachemonitor zenpack as described in the "extended monitoring guide". (ExtendedStatus = On, lynx localhost/server-status?auto looks good). the monitoring host is the same as the host being monitored
[29-May-2009 04:44:47] <Dieterbe> I bound the template to the host, i checked that the datasource is enabled. but there are no RRD files being created in perf/Devices/staging (staging == devicename)
[29-May-2009 04:47:24] <Dieterbe> and when I run `python check_apache.py -H localhost` myself the output looks good (OK and a bunch of apache variables)
[29-May-2009 07:00:18] <asachs> Hi all, i have devices flapping up and down on a radio based network and am getting events for each up/down, any way to stop getting these ?
[29-May-2009 07:05:58] <sergeymasushko> asachs: you can set count to 2 in the alerting rule.
[29-May-2009 07:06:35] <asachs> sergeymasushko: does that fix the case where each flap is getting a new event id ?
[29-May-2009 07:09:09] <sergeymasushko> in this case if alert event created and cleared before count increased you should not receive an email
[29-May-2009 07:09:31] <sergeymasushko> or you can set delay on the alerting rule....
[29-May-2009 07:11:06] <sergeymasushko> e.g. 10-20 seconds... in this case email will be sent only in 20-30 seconds after arriving an alert event and it is not cleared...
[29-May-2009 07:19:17] <perr0> hi sergeymasushko
[29-May-2009 07:20:32] <asachs> sergeymasushko: thanks, just stumbled onto that in forums too, apologies for the lack of research upfront
[29-May-2009 07:23:13] <sergeymasushko> perr0: morning
[29-May-2009 07:25:29] <sergeymasushko> perr0: however here is almost evening
[29-May-2009 07:26:22] <perr0> I am barely awake at the office.. Where are you located?
[29-May-2009 07:34:52] <sergeymasushko> ukraine
[29-May-2009 08:52:36] cy_`_ is now known as cy_`
[29-May-2009 09:22:18] <jb> hey matt
[29-May-2009 09:22:24] <jb> where is the most recent "how to create a zenpack" doc?
[29-May-2009 09:22:27] <jb> is it on the wiki?
[29-May-2009 09:24:26] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 13.3 in the Admin Guide covers the basics
[29-May-2009 09:24:32] <mrayzenoss> what kind are you making?
[29-May-2009 09:25:15] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 3 of the Dev Guide has more details
[29-May-2009 09:25:27] <mrayzenoss> the Community ZenPack Repository covers some esoteric stuff
[29-May-2009 09:25:55] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: putting that note about how to libexec pathing in there would be helpful.......
[29-May-2009 09:27:41] <jb> just some app zenpacks
[29-May-2009 09:28:06] <jb> just wanted to read the docs for a sec before I started these new ones..
[29-May-2009 09:31:16] <pupmini> mrayzenoss: hey mrayzenoss, remember a few days ago the problem I had about the starting of daemons?
[29-May-2009 09:31:27] <mrayzenoss> yeah, permissions or something?
[29-May-2009 09:31:36] <pupmini> ya, though that was it,
[29-May-2009 09:31:59] <pupmini> still not starting up 100% of the time
[29-May-2009 09:41:15] <pupmini> hrmm, its just randomly started after a restart of the entire stack
[29-May-2009 09:45:12] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: saw your email on the zenpacks forum, have you restarted zope since installing the ZenPack?
[29-May-2009 09:45:53] <mrayzenoss> and probably zenhub as well
[29-May-2009 10:06:24] <rocket> Hey Matt
[29-May-2009 10:10:46] <mrayzenoss> myellow
[29-May-2009 10:12:33] <jb> ok, so when are you going to let me try this zenpack?
[29-May-2009 10:12:55] <mrayzenoss> which one?
[29-May-2009 10:13:25] <mrayzenoss> my current queue: updated HPMon, Advanced Details and Component Cleaner
[29-May-2009 10:13:42] <mrayzenoss> then Point, Range and Predictive thresholds
[29-May-2009 10:13:44] <jb> well, I was referring to the new AIX pack by rocket
[29-May-2009 10:14:02] <jb> but, the HPmon stuff is hotness.. we need it for dell
[29-May-2009 10:14:22] <rocket> jb: hrmm its not done .. but if you dont mind a work in progress ..
[29-May-2009 10:14:24] <mrayzenoss> jb: actually, Egor asked me for the output of some OIDs for doing a Dell one
[29-May-2009 10:14:40] <mrayzenoss> I didn't have access to a Dell, but I googled the stuff he wanted and found it
[29-May-2009 10:15:08] <mrayzenoss> he was looking for Perc stuff, so I'm guessing it's going to be comprehensive like his HP one
[29-May-2009 10:16:34] <rocket> bah .. damn competition
[29-May-2009 10:16:48] <mrayzenoss> heh
[29-May-2009 11:09:28] willwh1 is now known as willwh
[29-May-2009 11:23:36] <jb> mrayzenoss: oh yeah?
[29-May-2009 11:23:42] <jb> mrayzenoss: let him know I can help..
[29-May-2009 11:25:02] <rocket> jb: are you running at least 2.4?
[29-May-2009 11:25:06] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 11:25:07] <jb> 2.4.1
[29-May-2009 11:25:12] <jb> in production
[29-May-2009 11:25:57] <rocket> jb: I am getting closer .. I will send you my zenpacks if you want .. I still need to tweak some things ... eg I need to tweak the graphs etc
[29-May-2009 11:27:17] <jb> how is the stability of snmp?
[29-May-2009 11:27:26] <jb> thats the only thing I am concerned about
[29-May-2009 11:27:38] <rocket> jb: so far not so good honestly
[29-May-2009 11:27:49] <rocket> jb: I found a patch that I havent applied from ibm
[29-May-2009 11:27:52] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 11:27:52] <jb> url?
[29-May-2009 11:27:58] <rocket> for their aix clients
[29-May-2009 11:28:04] <jb> why oh why must AIX's snmpd suck so badly!
[29-May-2009 11:28:10] <rocket> jb: not sure I would have to look again
[29-May-2009 11:28:23] <rocket> jb: I agree
[29-May-2009 11:28:26] <jb> even the TL09+ boxes needed it?
[29-May-2009 11:28:44] <rocket> AIX 6.1 and aix 5.3 tl7 needed it I think
[29-May-2009 11:28:50] <jb> k
[29-May-2009 11:28:52] <rocket> 6.1 sp2
[29-May-2009 11:28:57] <jb> but it delt with snmpd stability?
[29-May-2009 11:29:01] <rocket> yes
[29-May-2009 11:29:04] <jb> ok cool
[29-May-2009 11:29:09] <jb> yeah, thats the only thing I am worried about
[29-May-2009 11:29:17] <rocket> there is one out there .. again I am not sure if it resolvs the problem
[29-May-2009 11:29:23] <rocket> aixmibd keeps crashing on me
[29-May-2009 11:29:23] <jb> ok
[29-May-2009 11:29:26] <jb> yep
[29-May-2009 11:29:33] <jb> i remember the same..
[29-May-2009 11:29:43] <rocket> so I might be forced to do ssh just for that reason alone
[29-May-2009 11:29:54] <rocket> which is a shame .. since this is so pretty
[29-May-2009 11:30:07] <jb> well, all of the same info can be obtained via SSH though
[29-May-2009 11:30:10] <jb> just a little of work
[29-May-2009 11:30:22] * rocket is getting lpar info such as entitled capacity etc from snmp
[29-May-2009 11:30:28] <jb> thats sorta hot
[29-May-2009 11:30:28] <jb>
[29-May-2009 11:34:21] <rocket> jb: screenies on the way
[29-May-2009 11:35:08] <rocket> jb: get them?
[29-May-2009 11:56:09] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 11:56:11] <jb> sorry
[29-May-2009 11:56:15] <jb> looking now
[29-May-2009 11:57:12] <jb> looks good!
[29-May-2009 11:58:33] <rocket>
[29-May-2009 11:58:48] <rocket> a little better than default zenoss you think?
[29-May-2009 13:08:21] <jb> chet?
[29-May-2009 13:08:27] <jb> not here
[29-May-2009 13:08:28] <jb> :/
[29-May-2009 13:19:23] <jb> anybody here had trouble adding winperf datasources and zenwinperf reporting them as "bad," but the "Test" function in the GUI reporting them successfully?
[29-May-2009 13:19:25] <jb> in 2.4
[29-May-2009 13:25:42] <jb> hey chet
[29-May-2009 13:26:07] <cluther> hi jb.. there is a way..
[29-May-2009 13:26:20] <cluther> It is a hack for the moment until I figure out a better way.
[29-May-2009 13:26:21] <jb> oh yeah?
[29-May-2009 13:26:53] <cluther> Open up $ZENHOME/Products/UserSettings.py and find "ufolder = UserSettings(userid) somewhere around line 190.
[29-May-2009 13:27:01] <rocket> heh cluther
[29-May-2009 13:27:08] <cgibbons> jb - what was the datasource you were having trouble with?
[29-May-2009 13:27:30] <jb> cgibbons: several datasources.. i can zenwinperf --testCounter them all over and over again.. sucessfully.
[29-May-2009 13:27:36] <jb> but during a routing zenwinperf run
[29-May-2009 13:27:37] <cluther> Add a line containing "if user: raise Unauthorized("User %s doesn't exist." % userid)" immediately before the ufolder = line.
[29-May-2009 13:27:43] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm MPE(instance1)\Rate Events Processed / Sec
[29-May-2009 13:27:43] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm Mediator Server\# Agent Connections
[29-May-2009 13:27:44] <jb> etc
[29-May-2009 13:27:47] <jb> one sec chet
[29-May-2009 13:28:47] <cgibbons> weird that --testCounter would work but not the other. best suggestion I have short-term would be to do a zenwinperf run -v10 -d yourbaddevice --capturefile=yourbaddevice > zenwinperf.log 2>&1 and we can look @ what the data says
[29-May-2009 13:29:16] <jb> ok one min
[29-May-2009 13:29:35] <jb> chet: ok, change is made.. let me restart.. how do I specify the group name though?
[29-May-2009 13:30:22] <cluther> jb: This will require that you setup the users ahead of time in Zenoss. Users that exist in AD won't automatically be created in Zenoss when they login.
[29-May-2009 13:30:27] <jb> oh
[29-May-2009 13:30:29] <jb> thats perfect
[29-May-2009 13:30:34] <jb> thats what I wanted to begin with!
[29-May-2009 13:31:24] <jb> hmm
[29-May-2009 13:31:29] <jb> looks like that caused some errors
[29-May-2009 13:33:23] <jb> or maybe I made an accidental change.
[29-May-2009 13:36:41] <jb> one sec.
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[29-May-2009 13:42:38] <jb> cluther: ok, perfect.
[29-May-2009 13:42:40] <jb> worked great
[29-May-2009 13:42:49] <jb> should I create a ticket for that?
[29-May-2009 13:43:08] <jb> cgibbons: ok, on to the winperf.. let me try to capture some debug info
[29-May-2009 13:46:58] <cluther> jb: A ticket for the UserSettings change? No.
[29-May-2009 13:47:14] <jb> ok
[29-May-2009 13:47:52] <jb> cgibbons: all I can really see in the log is the "Bad Counter" log
[29-May-2009 13:48:13] <cgibbons> -v10 should produce a big dump of data, no?
[29-May-2009 13:48:17] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 13:48:19] <jb> like 12k lines
[29-May-2009 13:48:29] <cgibbons> that'll be useful for me
[29-May-2009 13:48:40] <jb> want a copy of it?
[29-May-2009 13:49:05] <jb> two of the couters in this template always work, and one worked once or twice (enough to get a bit of data for a graph).. the others have never worked
[29-May-2009 13:49:07] <cgibbons> please
[29-May-2009 13:52:25] edwardam|phn is now known as edwardam
[29-May-2009 13:54:19] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/zenwinperf.log
[29-May-2009 13:54:21] <jb> there you go
[29-May-2009 13:57:03] <jb> cluther: one tiny issue.. when I model a device, a trace appears at the top referring to LDAPDelegate.py.. the device continues to model correctly, but the error is always there.. this happened before the change to UserSettings.py as well. It goes away if I disable the adPlugin..
[29-May-2009 13:57:04] <rocket> jb sent you a couple new screenies
[29-May-2009 13:57:11] <jb> ah one sec
[29-May-2009 13:57:35] <jb> oh nice
[29-May-2009 13:57:44] <jb> lpar stats
[29-May-2009 13:57:47] <rocket>
[29-May-2009 13:58:08] <rocket> community predictive thresholds too
[29-May-2009 13:58:28] <rocket> though they havent been tested too much yet
[29-May-2009 13:58:38] <jb> is that a separate pack?
[29-May-2009 13:58:43] <rocket> yes
[29-May-2009 13:58:45] <jb> k
[29-May-2009 13:59:02] <jb> whats up with that funky rrd font?
[29-May-2009 13:59:11] <rocket> its an old beta release
[29-May-2009 13:59:21] <rocket> I just havent updated my dev env yet
[29-May-2009 13:59:24] <jb> ah
[29-May-2009 13:59:26] <mrayzenoss> what's up with your fonts?
[29-May-2009 13:59:41] <mrayzenoss> oops, jb noticed as well
[29-May-2009 13:59:44] <jb>
[29-May-2009 13:59:45] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I just told jb
[29-May-2009 14:00:17] <rocket> I didnt care about fonts as much as functionality at the moment
[29-May-2009 14:01:03] <rocket> now I just have to figure out how to easily get the swap info from snmp ..
[29-May-2009 14:01:11] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 14:01:35] <cgibbons> so jb, you said --testCounter for ' \LogRhythm MPE(instance1)\Rate Events Inserted / Sec' works?
[29-May-2009 14:01:35] edwardam is now known as edwardam|BBIAF
[29-May-2009 14:01:46] <jb> yep
[29-May-2009 14:01:55] <cgibbons> can you do that with -v10 added and post the logfile of it, too?
[29-May-2009 14:02:00] <jb> sure
[29-May-2009 14:03:02] <jb> oh wow, it actually failed that time.
[29-May-2009 14:03:08] <jb> i swear I must have done it 50 times.
[29-May-2009 14:03:43] <cgibbons> I don't see instance1 listed in that particular raw data, is why I asked. Does it show up with PerfMon on the box itself?
[29-May-2009 14:04:31] <jb> ok, it did work..
[29-May-2009 14:04:34] <jb> i was hitting the wrong one.
[29-May-2009 14:05:20] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/testcount.txt
[29-May-2009 14:05:51] <cgibbons> hrm that was with -v10 added?
[29-May-2009 14:06:20] <jb> sorry.. that was -v 20
[29-May-2009 14:06:27] <jb> hang on
[29-May-2009 14:07:15] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/counter.txt
[29-May-2009 14:07:27] <cgibbons> ok cool
[29-May-2009 14:09:37] <jb> i do see an error in one of the datasources though
[29-May-2009 14:10:38] <cgibbons> oh?
[29-May-2009 14:10:45] <jb> fixing now.
[29-May-2009 14:14:07] <jb> ok I fixed the one that was broken
[29-May-2009 14:14:14] <jb> i just "tested" every source thru the gui with success
[29-May-2009 14:15:27] <cgibbons> quirky
[29-May-2009 14:15:47] <jb> hm, the RRDs actually rendered
[29-May-2009 14:19:06] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenwinperf:Fetch wrxxcrplrlm01.corp.follett.com: {'\\LogRhythm Mediator Server\\Log Manager Database % Used': 85.0}
[29-May-2009 14:19:34] <jb> from testcounter
[29-May-2009 14:19:35] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm Mediator Server\Log Manager Database % Used
[29-May-2009 14:19:51] <jb> and thats from a normal zenwinperf run
[29-May-2009 14:21:02] <jb> yet the graph shows a tiny bit of data
[29-May-2009 14:21:04] <jb> odd
[29-May-2009 14:21:20] <jb> maybe I'll let it brew overnight
[29-May-2009 14:23:02] <cgibbons> From the logs you posted, in the normal run the LogRhythm Mpe object isn't showing up in the data retrieved at all, so that's what we'd have to focus on. It is included in the query being sent to the Windows box, so something breaks down after that.
[29-May-2009 14:23:49] <cgibbons> I notice the query is very large (look for 'Perfmon Object query' in the log), or at least larger than what I normally have seen, so that might be a hint that some data is being dropped or something... yet it looks like we're getting a full load of data back without issue.
[29-May-2009 14:24:19] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 14:24:48] <jb> but the object is valid
[29-May-2009 14:25:15] <cgibbons> We had a bug in 2.3.x that was fixed in 2.4.x where in some cases we wouldn't get all the data back from the server, but it was real obvious (well, to my eyes) that the data was being truncated because we weren't reading it all off the server.
[29-May-2009 14:25:42] <cgibbons> but in your case, the server says we sent you 25984 bytes, and we parsed 25984 bytes, so we're good there
[29-May-2009 14:25:52] <cgibbons> and thats' a pretty small amount, so... nothing weird there
[29-May-2009 14:25:56] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 14:25:59] <cgibbons> headscratcher
[29-May-2009 14:26:05] <cgibbons> have you already got a case open for that?
[29-May-2009 14:26:12] <jb> nope.. just encountered it for the first time today
[29-May-2009 14:28:04] <jb> eek. now more ldap problems
[29-May-2009 14:29:29] <jb> cgibbons: if it doesn't clear up magically.. I may open a case on Monday
[29-May-2009 14:30:34] <cgibbons> okay cool. we'll probably have to do some interesting diagnostics to figure out what's up. one thing you might want to try if you have time is to create a new template that just has a few of the \\LogRhythm* counters and none of the others, just to see if they all work by themselves
[29-May-2009 14:31:08] <jb> yeah i was thinking the same thing
[29-May-2009 14:31:13] <jb> i'll do that as soon as I have some time
[29-May-2009 14:31:32] <jb> cluther: still around by any chance?
[29-May-2009 14:34:05] <cluther> jb: yeah
[29-May-2009 14:34:08] <jb> i'm getting LDAP invalid credential errors everytime I model a device.. yet zope has a connection to my GC, and login is working
[29-May-2009 14:34:24] <jb> Failure connecting, last attempted server: ldap://rgxxcrpnadc02.corp.follett.com:3268 ({'info': '80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090334, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 775, vece', 'desc': 'Invalid credentials'})
[29-May-2009 14:36:24] <jb> actually
[29-May-2009 14:36:25] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 14:36:42] <cluther> This is because when you're modeling a device you're really just tailing the event.log, so you see everything that's going on with Zope.
[29-May-2009 14:36:54] <cluther> So the error really has nothing to do with modeling the device. Just someone else really putting in bad credentials.
[29-May-2009 14:37:15] <cluther> This is part of the reason we created the jobber (zenjobs) to get rid of this rather inelegant solution.
[29-May-2009 14:37:25] <cluther> Now we just have to get all of these kinds of jobs migrated to the jobber.
[29-May-2009 14:37:26] <jb> ahh
[29-May-2009 14:37:42] <jb> its a little odd
[29-May-2009 14:37:55] <jb> because, I just created a new zen user with no role, or no administered objects
[29-May-2009 14:38:24] <jb> and when I logged in (using the AD password) i see a few systems
[29-May-2009 14:38:47] <jb> im wondering if something is cached somewhere.. because the previous user that I created, I added this system group to his "Administered Objects"
[29-May-2009 14:39:59] <jb> yeah, I believe it was cached.. cause now, LDAP auth is not working
[29-May-2009 14:42:36] <jb> do you know if these ldap connection attempts are logged anywhere?
[29-May-2009 14:43:52] <cluther> jb: Only the failures are logged to event.log
[29-May-2009 14:44:00] <cluther> You can look at the current cache within the AD plugin itself.
[29-May-2009 14:44:21] <jb> ok here we go
[29-May-2009 14:44:29] <jb> 2009-05-29T14:44:16 CRITICAL event.LDAPDelegate Failure connecting, last attempted server: ldap://rgxxcrpnadc02.corp.follett.com:3268 ({'info': '80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090334, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 775, vece', 'desc': 'Invalid credentials'})
[29-May-2009 14:44:32] <jb> same
[29-May-2009 14:45:07] <cluther> A common problem that can lead to invalid credentials is the account getting locked within AD due to successive login failures.
[29-May-2009 14:45:15] <jb> right
[29-May-2009 14:45:16] <jb> checked that one
[29-May-2009 14:45:51] <jb> oops
[29-May-2009 14:45:57] <jb> i checked the DN account
[29-May-2009 14:46:11] <jb> ok, I read a note about this in the extended monitoring guide
[29-May-2009 14:46:23] <jb> unfortuantly, group policy says 3 login attempts == lockout
[29-May-2009 14:47:25] edwardam|BBIAF is now known as edwardam
[29-May-2009 14:47:45] <jb> hrm
[29-May-2009 14:47:48] <jb> yeah, its a bit goofy
[29-May-2009 14:47:53] <jb> im still seeing objects that I shouldn't when I login
[29-May-2009 14:49:18] <jb> this is what is happening
[29-May-2009 14:49:27] <jb> when I add a user, and assign them a system group for example
[29-May-2009 14:49:35] <jb> the next user that I add, automatically gets access to that system group
[29-May-2009 14:49:47] <jb> even if I don't specify it in "Administerd Objects"
[29-May-2009 14:51:20] <cluther> hmm.. I've never seen anything like that before.
[29-May-2009 14:51:28] <cluther> Are you using a RAMCache or anything like that?
[29-May-2009 14:51:30] <cluther> within zope?
[29-May-2009 14:51:32] <jb> nope
[29-May-2009 14:52:07] <cluther> Is it possible that you previously granted the new user access to that system, then deleted them?
[29-May-2009 14:52:16] <cluther> I think this can leave behind the administered objects associations.
[29-May-2009 14:52:39] <jb> yes, thats probably it..
[29-May-2009 14:52:41] <jb> let me test that theory
[29-May-2009 14:53:48] <jb> right again
[29-May-2009 14:53:55] <jb> i was using the same user to test
[29-May-2009 14:54:18] <jb> just tried it with another one that I had deleted.. when I re-created it, only the device group that I added previously appeared
[29-May-2009 14:54:22] <jb> not any others
[29-May-2009 14:56:44] <cluther> If this is a concern to you I can send you a script that cleans up admin roles that reference non-existent users.
[29-May-2009 15:04:39] <jb> it might be.. let me get some feedback from some people
[29-May-2009 15:04:42] <jb> i appreciate it
[29-May-2009 15:05:03] <jb> i'll play with the lockout stuff
[29-May-2009 15:05:59] <jb> another semi-odd thing that I have discovered
[29-May-2009 15:06:04] <jb> if you add one system group to a user
[29-May-2009 15:06:07] <jb> and then add another
[29-May-2009 15:06:15] <jb> and choose "Browse By System" once you login
[29-May-2009 15:06:29] <jb> im automatically taken to the first system group that I have added, and the other system group is not visible
[29-May-2009 15:06:40] <jb> although if you click on "Device List"
[29-May-2009 15:06:42] <jb> the devices are there
[29-May-2009 15:07:52] <jb> so "Browse By System" only shows the first system group in Administered Objects
[29-May-2009 15:16:54] <jb> if that makes any sense to you
[29-May-2009 15:24:56] <jb> im a bit confused as to why modeling devices causes the invalid credentials error.. i confirmed by actually tailing event.log that it is occuring
[29-May-2009 15:25:14] <jb> but, im not sure what is causing the LDAP connection
[29-May-2009 15:26:11] <jb> pretty much everytime I click on something new in the GUI, a LDAP error is generated
[29-May-2009 15:28:29] <jb> its trying to authenticate the "admin" user
[29-May-2009 15:28:33] <jb> (thats what im logged in as right now)
[29-May-2009 15:28:37] <jb> its a local zenoss user
[29-May-2009 15:29:51] <venturaville> did you change the admin password by chance?
[29-May-2009 15:29:58] <jb> not since I enabled ldap
[29-May-2009 15:30:14] <jb> since the "admin" account is not a valid AD account
[29-May-2009 15:30:21] <jb> its obviously not able to auth
[29-May-2009 15:30:31] <jb> but it shouldn't be trying anyways, since its a local zenoss account
[29-May-2009 15:30:39] <venturaville> *shrug*
[29-May-2009 15:30:50] <venturaville> we saw lots of odd things break when we tried to change the default admin password
[29-May-2009 15:30:54] <venturaville> was just curious :-)
[29-May-2009 15:30:57] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 15:31:12] <jb> it appears that zenoss tries to authenticate via LDAP every time you do something in teh GUI
[29-May-2009 15:33:26] <venturaville> it should be caching it
[29-May-2009 15:33:41] <venturaville> any new user that authenticates gets auto added on ours
[29-May-2009 15:37:43] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 15:37:52] <jb> we really don't want any user being able to authenticate
[29-May-2009 15:38:05] <jb> so, we added a mod that basically forces you to create a local zenoss user
[29-May-2009 15:38:10] <venturaville> ah
[29-May-2009 15:38:16] <jb> (when I say we, I mean chet)
[29-May-2009 15:38:25] <jb> then you can auth with your AD password
[29-May-2009 15:38:41] <jb> but I think it would be better to add an option to the user GUI that says "Is this user an LDAP/AD user"
[29-May-2009 15:38:47] <jb> and only try to hook into LDAP/AD for users who check that
[29-May-2009 15:40:42] <jb> thats how I have seen some other apps implement this
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[30-May-2009 01:33:59] <xulfer> Anyone know if there's anything special i need to do to run the nmap portscan plugin beyond just... installing nmap?
[30-May-2009 09:41:03] <crow> hello
[30-May-2009 09:41:22] <crow> anyone know the method to get uptime on a device, for a report... ie: getSysUptime. getSysUptime doesnt seem to be it
[30-May-2009 11:38:37] <rsFF> zenoss is a real-time /historical monitoring system ritgh??
[30-May-2009 11:50:54] <crow> yeah. alerting, reporting, etc...
[30-May-2009 11:51:02] <crow> Can be extended with plugins as well.
[30-May-2009 12:36:43] <rsFF> crow: yeah but im doing a paper about network monitoring and from what ive read there ware two types
[30-May-2009 12:36:47] <rsFF> the real time
[30-May-2009 12:36:51] <rsFF> and the historical
[30-May-2009 12:37:09] <rsFF> but from what in know and ive used i think it is kind a hybrid
[30-May-2009 12:37:16] <rsFF> i just want to be sure
[30-May-2009 12:50:58] <crow> "real-time" is relative to your collection frequency. We use it on a 5 minute interval and we watch the graphs in real time
[30-May-2009 12:51:06] <crow> we also use the historical data
[30-May-2009 12:51:15] <crow> I would say that it covers both
[30-May-2009 12:55:47] <sergeymasushko> I can not add a datasource in a template... when I click 'add datasource' it shows pop-up window with the word 'Loading...' and this window is hung (already about 10 minutes...) how can fix it?
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[30-May-2009 22:07:05] <Garn32> is is possible for zenoss to use a text file to model a device?
[30-May-2009 22:07:38] <sergeymasushko> what do you want to do?
[30-May-2009 22:09:21] <Garn32> I have snmp output from a device and I would like to have zenoss model the device for me
[30-May-2009 22:10:39] <sergeymasushko> why you can not model device directly from the zenoss by snmp?
[30-May-2009 22:11:10] <Garn32> the device recently lost its entire config and all I have to rebuild the device is the snmp output from before it went down
[30-May-2009 22:13:13] <sergeymasushko> hm... probably Dumping and Loading Devices Using XML Lists will help you. http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch09s18.html
[30-May-2009 22:13:13] <sergeymasushko> but I'm not sure... I never used it before...
[30-May-2009 22:14:15] <Garn32> I'll take a look
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[31-May-2009 04:18:09] <xulfer> Hi
[31-May-2009 04:56:19] <rhettlap> hi
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[31-May-2009 11:48:50] <Guest62834> hallow
[31-May-2009 11:49:01] <Guest62834> any body here
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[31-May-2009 11:49:20] <aleye> hallow
[31-May-2009 11:49:26] <aleye> need help
[31-May-2009 11:50:55] <aleye> hlo
[31-May-2009 12:03:17] <sergeymasushko> hi
[31-May-2009 12:08:59] <aleye> hai
[31-May-2009 12:09:01] <aleye> hallow
[31-May-2009 12:09:08] <aleye> need help
[31-May-2009 12:09:09] <aleye> please
[31-May-2009 12:09:12] <aleye> help me
[31-May-2009 12:09:14] <aleye> hallows
[31-May-2009 12:10:37] <perr0> hi sergey
[31-May-2009 12:10:46] <sergeymasushko> perr0: morning
[31-May-2009 12:11:00] <perr0> odd to see you here on a Sunday
[31-May-2009 12:11:11] <sergeymasushko> why?
[31-May-2009 12:15:18] <aleye> hlow
[31-May-2009 12:15:51] <aleye> i have troble with my zenoss
[31-May-2009 12:28:40] <perr0> sergeymasushko: not everybody stops by on the weekedns
[31-May-2009 12:28:45] <perr0> weekends
[31-May-2009 12:29:11] <sergeymasushko> heh... I have too complex schedule
[31-May-2009 12:30:18] <perr0> how is freebsd/zenoss coming along?
[31-May-2009 12:31:05] <perr0> I have replaced a fan on one of our servers so I am hoping to install zenoss on a new freebsd install tomorrow
[31-May-2009 13:11:19] <sergeymasushko> perr0: can you advice me, I have a weird situation. I'd like to add throughput FastEthernet 0/0 graph onto the "Perf" pages of my cisco routers. From the ethernetCsmacd template I've got 2 OIDs: 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10 and 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16. When I do snmpwalk all is ok, but graphs are not shown
[31-May-2009 13:15:59] <perr0> sergey you are running 2.4?
[31-May-2009 13:16:21] <perr0> or 2.4.1?
[31-May-2009 13:18:47] <sergeymasushko> 2.4.0
[31-May-2009 13:19:10] <sergeymasushko> should I update it?
[31-May-2009 13:19:14] <perr0> I am not sure about your problem. Maybe this might be of help
[31-May-2009 13:19:16] <perr0> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9723&highlight=rrd+graphs
[31-May-2009 13:20:17] <perr0> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4988
[31-May-2009 13:21:06] <perr0> I doubt it.. it states Currently the default limit for retrieving snmp table entries is 1000. If a table is large and this limit is hit, the incomplete table can cause the plugin to fail if it is not coded defensively. Of course, the data is incomplete, too.
[31-May-2009 13:23:02] <sergeymasushko> heh... I believe my zenoss isn't so big...
[31-May-2009 13:23:10] <sergeymasushko> need to check logs
[31-May-2009 13:27:53] <aleye> oouh
[31-May-2009 13:28:36] <aleye> hai please help me..i have problem with my zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:29:39] <perr0> aleye: are you sure you don't have a problem asking your question ? =]
[31-May-2009 13:30:51] <sergeymasushko> aleye: just ask your question
[31-May-2009 13:32:10] <aleye> i m not sure ..the problem is zendisc and zenmoduler
[31-May-2009 13:32:44] <aleye> maybe u want see my machine zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:32:57] <aleye> http://monev.nad.go.id:8080
[31-May-2009 13:33:11] <sergeymasushko> aleye: cay please be more specific about the problem you are experiencing ?
[31-May-2009 13:33:13] <perr0> I don't think that is necessary
[31-May-2009 13:33:56] <perr0> well we know he is using core 2.4.0
[31-May-2009 13:34:53] <sergeymasushko>
[31-May-2009 13:36:22] <aleye> dedupid 192.168.126.120|zenmodeler|/Cmd/Fail||4|Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[31-May-2009 13:36:22] <aleye> u want user and password for check my zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:36:33] <perr0> no thanks!
[31-May-2009 13:36:57] <perr0> can you tell us what is happening first?
[31-May-2009 13:37:01] <perr0> ok
[31-May-2009 13:37:03] <perr0> see it
[31-May-2009 13:37:56] <perr0> so aleye do you know that the box you are trying to model allows connections by zenoss?
[31-May-2009 13:38:04] <perr0> what is it a Windows box?
[31-May-2009 13:40:17] <aleye> this is a ip radio canopy
[31-May-2009 13:41:12] <perr0> how are you modeling the device?
[31-May-2009 13:42:48] <perr0> does this device have snmp?
[31-May-2009 13:43:53] <perr0> I experienced similar issue when my freebsd boxes refused connection to snmp but they were still modeled and added
[31-May-2009 13:44:47] <aleye> when i add new device ..like this http://pastebin.com/m53c5b2a1
[31-May-2009 13:45:51] <perr0> hmm
[31-May-2009 13:46:21] <aleye> snmpwalk -v 2c 192.168.126.104 -c Canopy is running good....but snmpwalk -v 1 is not good
[31-May-2009 13:57:10] <perr0> aleye: have you tried running the zenmodeler on the command line?
[31-May-2009 13:58:02] <perr0> increase the verbosity
[31-May-2009 14:01:24] <sergeymasushko> aleye: have you tried to restart zenhub and zenmodeler daemons?
[31-May-2009 14:02:40] <aleye> ups sorri i must go to sleep noe..oh i m from aceh u now..indonesia..nice to met u sergey and perr0...not running to..i m restart zendhub and zenmodeler and the i got same problem to..ok see u ..thanks very much
[31-May-2009 14:04:41] <sergeymasushko> aleye: you can try to enable debug on the zenmodeler daemon restart it an then look into the zenhub.log
[31-May-2009 18:30:25] <voip_troll> I'm having trouble installing gcc on machine... http://pastebin.ca/1442884
[31-May-2009 18:30:36] <voip_troll> Any help is greatly appreciated.
[31-May-2009 18:33:56] <voip_troll> hello kevin7kal
[31-May-2009 20:06:04] <voip_troll> Anyone around?
[31-May-2009 20:06:44] <perr0> tomorrow morning there will be lots more
[31-May-2009 20:06:49] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:06:56] <voip_troll> you a zenoss guru?
[31-May-2009 20:07:28] <perr0> I am a CORE user
[31-May-2009 20:08:34] <voip_troll> You know much about installing gcc with conary?
[31-May-2009 20:09:04] <perr0> no, are you having problems installing?
[31-May-2009 20:09:27] <voip_troll> yea... well, trying to install XML::Simple
[31-May-2009 20:09:59] <voip_troll> It fails because it can't find gcc, so i try to install gcc and conary can't find it... and I can't find a package that works with the rpath/conary package manager.
[31-May-2009 20:10:08] <perr0> what OS
[31-May-2009 20:10:15] <voip_troll> rpath linux
[31-May-2009 20:10:33] <voip_troll> It's running an appliance (not my choice... I just support it)
[31-May-2009 20:11:09] <perr0> sorry voip_troll I know mostly BSD
[31-May-2009 20:11:49] <perr0> have you tried the rpath cganne?
[31-May-2009 20:11:57] <perr0> channel*
[31-May-2009 20:12:08] <voip_troll> yea... i'm a linux guru (or so I thought). rpath is (in my opinion) a horrid distro.
[31-May-2009 20:12:54] <voip_troll> I can't get into rpath or conary... tells me I'm being forwarded, but nothing happens.
[31-May-2009 20:14:27] <perr0> I work with mostly enterprise Linux and that is bad enough for me, good luck. Maybe someone else here may know rpath but the traffic happens during week days
[31-May-2009 20:14:39] <sergeymasushko> perr0: hm... you are still here
[31-May-2009 20:14:47] <perr0> lol
[31-May-2009 20:15:24] <voip_troll> enterprise linux is almost as bad as rpath
[31-May-2009 20:15:30] <perr0> I went out for a few hours. You know I am trying to move up in the world and Linux/FreeBSD is my ticket to the top...
[31-May-2009 20:15:31] * voip_troll hates RHEL.
[31-May-2009 20:15:43] <perr0> that is what my work deploys
[31-May-2009 20:16:02] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:16:17] <perr0> I am working on replacing them with freebsd/Gentoo little by little
[31-May-2009 20:16:28] <voip_troll> So terrible dealing with entitlements, then someone forgets to purchase a license and you try to install something and wham you're pwnt.
[31-May-2009 20:16:37] <perr0> ya
[31-May-2009 20:17:48] <sergeymasushko> hm... what about some virtual box with well known OS?
[31-May-2009 20:19:01] <perr0> Wachu mean? I run freebsd on top of CentOS
[31-May-2009 20:19:22] <perr0> I use CentOS to get as close as I can to RHEL
[31-May-2009 20:22:16] <voip_troll> I drop centos on any machine I can... from my experience, it's by far the most supported/stable platform.
[31-May-2009 20:24:00] <perr0> ya, I am opening to it little by little
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> gah
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> 1 additional trove is needed:
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> libgcc:devellib=3.4.4-9.4-1 is required by:
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> gcc:runtime=3.4.4-9.4-1
[31-May-2009 20:26:49] <perr0> is conary the package manager?
[31-May-2009 20:26:53] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:27:41] <perr0> how does that work
[31-May-2009 20:27:46] <voip_troll> I despise it.
[31-May-2009 20:28:01] <perr0> is it an rpm base?
[31-May-2009 20:28:08] <perr0> src?
[31-May-2009 20:28:10] <voip_troll> I'm sure if I met the guy who designed it, I'd probably break his fingers
[31-May-2009 20:28:17] <perr0> lol
[31-May-2009 20:28:24] <voip_troll> It's built by rpath... I think it's source-based.
[31-May-2009 20:28:35] <perr0> ohh
[31-May-2009 20:28:46] <perr0> I remember know
[31-May-2009 20:29:14] <perr0> never tried it but they came and bought us pizza many years ago at our local LUG meeting
[31-May-2009 20:29:21] <voip_troll> really?
[31-May-2009 20:29:33] <perr0> rpath, yep
[31-May-2009 20:29:47] <voip_troll> wow, they're that desperate for support
[31-May-2009 20:30:06] <sergeymasushko> LUG ?
[31-May-2009 20:30:22] <voip_troll> Lotsa Ugly Girlz
[31-May-2009 20:30:32] <sergeymasushko> lol
[31-May-2009 20:31:55] <perr0> usually people pend the city name to LUG thus it would be city name Linux Users Group
[31-May-2009 20:32:18] <voip_troll> oohhh
[31-May-2009 20:32:24] <voip_troll> maybe
[31-May-2009 20:33:00] <sergeymasushko> I live in the sity LUGansk and we have a LLUG
[31-May-2009 20:33:44] <perr0> ya
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[01-May-2009 06:33:13] <rocket> morning __ian__
[01-May-2009 07:43:47] <jmp242> hi all
[01-May-2009 09:35:45] <perr0> morning
[01-May-2009 09:37:27] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[01-May-2009 09:46:53] <jb> good morning
[01-May-2009 09:48:55] <rmatte> can anyone think of a way to allow regular users to execute 1 command only as Zenoss user?
[01-May-2009 09:49:16] <rmatte> and it has to apply to all users, not just specific ones
[01-May-2009 09:49:29] <jb> through a shell on the server?
[01-May-2009 09:49:36] <rmatte> correct
[01-May-2009 09:49:38] <jb> sudo?
[01-May-2009 09:50:00] <rmatte> I have sudo installed, no idea how I'd go about doing this though
[01-May-2009 09:50:18] <jb> you need to configure access in /etc/sudoers
[01-May-2009 09:50:24] <jb> look at the man page
[01-May-2009 09:50:36] <rocket> rmatte: it is pretty simple if you read the man page for sudo .. using the command visudo to edit the sudoers file
[01-May-2009 09:50:46] <rocket> rmatte: basically you put all the users in a group
[01-May-2009 09:50:59] <rocket> rmatte: assign the group the privledges you need
[01-May-2009 09:51:15] <rocket> by group I mean system group
[01-May-2009 09:51:16] <rmatte> so I could specify the users group for instance?
[01-May-2009 09:51:21] <rocket> yes
[01-May-2009 09:52:47] <rocket> system groups (prefixed with '%')
[01-May-2009 09:53:14] <rmatte> does that allow me to specify access to a specific command?
[01-May-2009 09:53:25] <rmatte> or would everyone effectively have zenoss level access?
[01-May-2009 09:53:40] <rocket> rmatte: you then specify the command
[01-May-2009 09:53:59] <rocket> rmatte: that is just the user specification you are defining that has access to that command
[01-May-2009 09:54:23] <jb> read the man page
there are also examples in sudoers[01-May-2009 09:54:36] <rmatte> I'm reading the man page, it's a long manpage
[01-May-2009 09:54:44] <jb> look at sudoers..
[01-May-2009 09:55:05] <rocket> rmatte: or hire a consultant
.. for the most part this is pretty basic stuff [01-May-2009 09:55:38] <rmatte> I'm aware that this is basic stuff
[01-May-2009 09:55:48] <rocket> http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=20051025103428232
[01-May-2009 09:55:56] <rmatte> I just haven't had much experience with sudo other than simply granting full access to whoever
[01-May-2009 09:55:59] <adytum-bot> Title: AFP548 - Essential Sudoers (at www.afp548.com)
[01-May-2009 09:56:32] <rocket> found via a google search "sudoers group file access"
[01-May-2009 09:57:20] <mrayzenoss> depending on your platform, there may be a man page for just the conf file
[01-May-2009 09:57:35] <rmatte> rocket : thanks, exactly what I need
[01-May-2009 09:57:36] <mrayzenoss> that said, I can't reach my Debian box to check
[01-May-2009 09:57:59] <rocket> eg man sudoers
[01-May-2009 09:58:14] <mrayzenoss> yup
[01-May-2009 09:58:15] <rmatte> root@gen01:/home/rmatte# man sudoers.conf
[01-May-2009 09:58:17] <rmatte> No manual entry for sudoers.conf
[01-May-2009 09:58:21] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 09:58:23] <rmatte> that works
[01-May-2009 09:59:38] <jb> does zen do anything special for XEN?
[01-May-2009 09:59:50] <jb> i'll probably just add dom0 and the domU's as separate devices
[01-May-2009 10:00:02] <jb> there is no .conf
[01-May-2009 10:00:04] <jb> its just /etc/sudoers
[01-May-2009 10:00:15] <mrayzenoss> there's an Enterprise ZenPack for monitoring Xen
[01-May-2009 10:00:21] <jb> oh yeah?
[01-May-2009 10:00:21] <jb> hm
[01-May-2009 10:00:24] <jb> i'll check it out
[01-May-2009 10:02:48] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ping .. is chet around I have a quick 5 minute question to ask him regarding relationships
[01-May-2009 10:03:18] <mrayzenoss> I pinged him, I'll let you know
[01-May-2009 10:03:36] <rocket> Thanks
[01-May-2009 10:04:41] <mrayzenoss> thanks cluther
[01-May-2009 10:04:48] <cluther> What did I do?
[01-May-2009 10:05:00] <mrayzenoss> showed up? you not see my Skype?
[01-May-2009 10:05:37] <cluther> Oh.. I did.
[01-May-2009 10:06:00] <rocket> cluther: Hey Buddy
[01-May-2009 10:06:06] <rocket> cluther: quick question for ya
[01-May-2009 10:06:37] <rocket> cluther: I created modeler code to create nested dicts for this 2 level relationship stuff I am working on
[01-May-2009 10:07:10] <rocket> cluther: my question is for my custom function do I just need to create a manage_addfilesystem type method to create the new objects?
[01-May-2009 10:07:36] <rocket> and if thats the case where would I get the context information?
[01-May-2009 10:08:43] <cluther> rocket: The context is "here.relname"
[01-May-2009 10:08:53] <cluther> The context is the relation you're adding the object to.
[01-May-2009 10:09:02] <cluther> self.relname that is.
[01-May-2009 10:09:42] <rocket> ok .. but I would call the manage_add function from my subcomponent correct?
[01-May-2009 10:10:03] <cluther> Right.
[01-May-2009 10:10:07] <rocket> and I would need to create those I am assuming but I can use the filesystem one as a template ..
[01-May-2009 10:10:53] <rocket> sounds good .. thats what I thought .. but its nice to have confirmation
[01-May-2009 10:11:22] <cluther> There are a lot of ways to do it, but you seem to have hit upon the best one.
[01-May-2009 10:11:25] <rocket> cluther: thats all i needed .. thanks much ..
[01-May-2009 10:11:51] <rocket> cluther: oh wait
[01-May-2009 10:12:08] <rocket> cluther: say I have many pvs that go into one volume_group
[01-May-2009 10:12:39] <rocket> doing it this way will keep from creating multiple volume group objects of the same name right?
[01-May-2009 10:13:02] <rocket> eg hdisk2, hdisk3, hdisk4 all go to a datavg
[01-May-2009 10:13:11] <cluther> You are putting a vg relation right on the DeviceHW sub-class, right?
[01-May-2009 10:13:50] <rocket> yes there will be a relation for that on the physical volume sub-class
[01-May-2009 10:14:04] <rocket> a many to one relationship I am assuming
[01-May-2009 10:14:39] <rocket> container for the bottom level .. eg the physical volume
[01-May-2009 10:17:04] <cluther> What was the third type of object involved? You have VG and PV.. then what?
[01-May-2009 10:17:23] <jb> LV
[01-May-2009 10:17:33] <jb> then filesystem
[01-May-2009 10:17:50] <rocket> techically hdisk -> physical_volume(software_created) -> volume_group -> logical_volume -> filesystem
[01-May-2009 10:18:40] <rocket> even more technical lun-> lun_id -> vio -> vio_mapping -> hdisk ..
[01-May-2009 10:19:34] <cluther> hmm.. I don't know if this is a good map.
[01-May-2009 10:20:01] <cluther> What if you started with VG had two relations on it: PV and LV.
[01-May-2009 10:20:11] <cluther> Then PV had HD and LV had FS.
[01-May-2009 10:20:18] <rocket> cluther: that is the other way I was thinking
[01-May-2009 10:20:58] <cluther> This would keep you from having to create a lot of non-containing relations. You want to avoid those if you can since they're harder to maintain.
[01-May-2009 10:24:19] <rocket> so I am still a bit foggy on the difference between a containing rel and non-containing rel ..
[01-May-2009 10:26:02] <cluther> rocket: Oh yeah.. it's really quite simple. Every object in Zope must have a single primary path where it lives. A containing relation means that the objects contained within live HERE, and if they're deleted from this relation they are gone for good. A non-containing relation is a way to relate to other objects without making them live underneath you.
[01-May-2009 10:26:25] <cluther> So a device is contained within a DeviceClass, but it is not contained within a Location.
[01-May-2009 10:26:42] <rmatte> I was told that I could use d.getStatus("/") to get device status, but it always seems to show up as "0", even when a device is actually down
[01-May-2009 10:27:28] <rocket> cluther: I see ..
[01-May-2009 10:27:51] <cluther> rmatte: That is the appropriate call for a component, but no a device unfortunately.
[01-May-2009 10:27:58] <cluther> rmatte: Just use d.getStatus() instead.
[01-May-2009 10:28:37] <rocket> cluther: would a non containing relation be a way to link say a HardwareManagementConsole to say the physical machine it controls?
[01-May-2009 10:29:05] <rocket> so if I delete the HMC the physical machine information isnt lost
[01-May-2009 10:29:16] <rocket> or it moves from one hmc to another for example?
[01-May-2009 10:29:27] <cluther> rocket: yeah
[01-May-2009 10:30:33] <rocket> cluther: so I would have to call manage_addDevice(physical_machine) from my hmc then?
[01-May-2009 10:31:06] <rocket> like I am doing with my components basically .. but its not a containing relationship .. I think I got it ..
[01-May-2009 10:36:14] <rocket> cluther: thanks!
[01-May-2009 10:47:02] <rmatte> cluther : ah, thanks
[01-May-2009 10:48:55] <rmatte> ok, so now I have a bunch of zeros and a number (3909)
[01-May-2009 10:49:01] <rmatte> any way to interpret these?
[01-May-2009 10:49:11] <rmatte> like, what would be Down and what would be Up?
[01-May-2009 10:49:51] <rmatte> I just basically want to dump straight up/down status on devices
[01-May-2009 10:55:12] <rmatte> oh, all I can get is the number of events?
[01-May-2009 10:57:32] <cluther> Right. If > 0 you have some kind of issue.
[01-May-2009 10:57:50] <cluther> 0 = up, >0 = down
[01-May-2009 11:02:24] <rocket> cluther: nice job on the manufacturer patch ..
[01-May-2009 11:02:46] <cluther> rocket: It's still evolving.
[01-May-2009 11:03:01] <rocket> cluther: thats ok .. at least the ball is rolling
[01-May-2009 11:03:17] <rocket> cluther: I am just glad to have found some of its main issues ;p
[01-May-2009 11:04:00] <cluther> rocket: The actual bug fix that started all of this will definitely be in 2.4.
[01-May-2009 11:04:23] <cluther> rocket: I'm still pushing for all the new functionality stuff in 2.4.1.
[01-May-2009 11:13:48] <rocket> cluther: sweet
[01-May-2009 11:14:18] <rocket> cluther: I just need to create a fix so that I can extend graph point objects from a zenpack
[01-May-2009 11:14:40] <rocket> cluther: then I will be able to do everything I think I want from the zenpack ..
[01-May-2009 11:14:49] <rocket> cluther: thought that one is just a nice to have
[01-May-2009 11:17:34] <rmatte> yeh, but >0 doesn't necessarily mean down
[01-May-2009 11:18:10] <rocket> isnt there a getStatusString method?
[01-May-2009 11:21:39] <cluther> >0 means that there is an outstanding ping down event for the device.
[01-May-2009 11:21:42] <cluther> That seems down to me.
[01-May-2009 11:22:55] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ping
[01-May-2009 11:23:17] <mrayzenoss> yo
[01-May-2009 11:23:27] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I have an update for my point threshold class
[01-May-2009 11:23:32] <mrayzenoss> excellent
[01-May-2009 11:23:34] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I changed the graphing
[01-May-2009 11:23:45] <rocket> mrayzenoss: from a line .. to a comment below the graph
[01-May-2009 11:23:51] <rmatte> cluther : I have a device which is not actually down, I just have zeneventlog events for it
[01-May-2009 11:23:56] <rmatte> and it's still >0
[01-May-2009 11:24:07] <rmatte> so no, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is an outstanding ping event
[01-May-2009 11:24:33] <rocket> mrayzenoss: when I get a chance I will send it your way
[01-May-2009 11:24:47] <mrayzenoss> cool, you can check it into SVN if you want
[01-May-2009 11:24:54] <cluther> rmatte: Doh! You're right.
[01-May-2009 11:24:59] <cluther> rmatte: d.getPingStatus()
[01-May-2009 11:25:04] <rmatte> ahhhh
[01-May-2009 11:25:06] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 11:25:09] <cluther> sorry about that.
[01-May-2009 11:25:13] <rmatte> all good
[01-May-2009 11:25:16] <rmatte> thanks for the help
[01-May-2009 11:56:33] <rmatte> hmmm, what does a -1 value mean then?
[01-May-2009 11:56:34] <rmatte> lol
[01-May-2009 12:05:58] <cluther> rmatte: That the device isn't being ping monitored for some reason. Decommissioned, zPingMonitoreIgnore set to true..
[01-May-2009 12:06:10] <rmatte> ohhh
[01-May-2009 12:06:12] <rmatte> cool
[01-May-2009 13:26:58] <rmatte> well, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
[01-May-2009 13:27:02] <rmatte> added this to sudoers:
[01-May-2009 13:27:04] <rmatte> %users ALL = NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:27:09] <rmatte> but it's still prompting for password
[01-May-2009 13:28:55] <cluther> Is your user in the users group?
[01-May-2009 13:29:24] <rocket> rmatte: type "groups" as that user to find out
[01-May-2009 13:30:03] <rocket> rmatte: might have to logout and login for the changes to take effect if you have made them recently... ie groups are only set on login ...
[01-May-2009 13:30:04] <rmatte> bah, we're using LDAP accounts, I thought that it was configured to have that group as part of users but apparently not
[01-May-2009 13:30:27] <rmatte> I think I have another group that I can use...
[01-May-2009 13:30:43] <chudler> could setuid do this ? chmod u+s /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:31:14] <chudler> or unless root privs is required to run your script?
[01-May-2009 13:32:11] <rmatte> well, I need to run with root privs so that I can do a "su - zenoss"
[01-May-2009 13:32:20] <rmatte> because otherwise I can't run my zendmd script properly
[01-May-2009 13:32:42] <rmatte> since it doesn't run with the right environment variables
[01-May-2009 13:33:12] <chudler> zenoss user environment is easily synthesized source ~zenoss/.profile or something.
[01-May-2009 13:34:05] <chudler> but I could be missing something. Never done it :-)
[01-May-2009 13:34:28] <rmatte> could me in .bash_rc or something
[01-May-2009 13:34:31] <cluther> chudler: That does work well. You just need to be careful with any files that are created as a result of your script. They'll be owned by the user that the script runs as.
[01-May-2009 13:34:31] <rmatte> be*
[01-May-2009 13:34:44] <cluther> yeah.. ~zenoss/.bashrc
[01-May-2009 13:36:04] <rmatte> hmmm, according to the manpage I should be able to use one of my LDAP groups in the sudoers file
[01-May-2009 13:36:08] <rmatte> but it doesn't appear to be working
[01-May-2009 13:36:15] <rmatte> %NOCStaff ALL = NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:40:39] <rocket> change the % to +
[01-May-2009 13:40:46] <rocket> +NOCStaff
[01-May-2009 13:41:00] <rocket> I think its a netgroup coming from ldap .. not a localgroup
[01-May-2009 13:41:16] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 13:42:52] <rmatte> ok, this line in the same file is an LDAP group...
[01-May-2009 13:42:54] <rmatte> %Administrators ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01-May-2009 13:42:59] <rmatte> and it's working perfectly fine
[01-May-2009 13:44:15] <rmatte> oh, I think I know why it appears to not be working
[01-May-2009 13:44:24] <rocket> %NOCStaff ALL = zenoss NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:44:50] <rocket> ALL machines ... become zenoss user ... NOPASSWD
[01-May-2009 13:44:57] <rocket> missing an entry
[01-May-2009 13:53:06] <rmatte> nope
[01-May-2009 13:53:17] <rmatte> you're referring to /var/log/messages I assume?
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rmatte> ah and syslog
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rocket> sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:18] <rmatte> both are clean
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> on any system as any user and get a list of things (if any) that you are allowed to do.
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> root@lab01:/var/log# sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> User root may run the following commands on this host:
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> (ALL) ALL
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> that's all it says
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> rmatte: you have to be the user to run sudoe
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rocket> become a user other than root
[01-May-2009 13:53:21] <rmatte> oh
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rocket> sudo means basically become root
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rocket> super user do
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> noctest@lab01:~$ sudo -l
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> User noctest may run the following commands on this host:
[01-May-2009 13:53:23] <rmatte> (ALL) NOPASSWD: /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:53:39] <rocket> so noctest can become any suer and run that script without a password
[01-May-2009 13:53:43] <rocket> user
[01-May-2009 13:53:52] <rocket> change all to zenoss now and try again
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> noctest@lab01:~$ /mspfiles/scripts/tools/zendump/zendump
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> Password:
[01-May-2009 13:54:01] <rmatte> su: Authentication failure
[01-May-2009 13:54:14] <rmatte> why can't I run the script without being prompted though?
[01-May-2009 13:54:39] <cluther> rmatte: Preface the command with sudo.
[01-May-2009 13:54:51] <rmatte> ah
[01-May-2009 13:54:57] <rmatte> stupid me
[01-May-2009 13:54:59] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 13:55:07] <rocket> rmatte: works now?
[01-May-2009 13:55:10] <rmatte> yeh
[01-May-2009 13:55:27] <rmatte> thanks
[01-May-2009 14:11:45] <gemineye> mrayzenoss, you around?
[01-May-2009 14:11:51] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:12:34] <gemineye> I'm inching closer and closer to getting my company to upgrade to Enterprise, but before they do that they asked me to install core on a beefier box. I'm seeing some weird behavior
[01-May-2009 14:14:14] <gemineye> When I add a Windows system to the older server by default starts monitoring all the Win Services and alerts on the ones that aren't running. The new box by default has all the Win Services disabled.
[01-May-2009 14:14:56] <gemineye> Also when I try and do a bulk enable monitoring, it doesn't work, but it will do a bulk disable monitoring. Both servers are running 2.3 but the new box was a clean install where the old one was an upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3
[01-May-2009 14:15:44] <gemineye> thoughs?
[01-May-2009 14:16:14] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I grabbed cgibbons to take a look
[01-May-2009 14:16:17] <cgibbons> ¿que?
[01-May-2009 14:16:23] <mrayzenoss> I'll PM him your posts
[01-May-2009 14:16:27] <gemineye> ok
[01-May-2009 14:17:22] <gemineye> I had a problem with 2.2 where enabling bulk selection of services to be either enabled or disabled didn't work but thought it was fixed with 2.3.
[01-May-2009 14:17:26] <cgibbons> yeah the whole bulk monitoring GUI was broken in several places, so that's been fixed now, lemme see what ticket
[01-May-2009 14:17:41] <jb> bulk monitoring?
[01-May-2009 14:17:48] <jb> like selecting several services at once and enabling/disabling?
[01-May-2009 14:18:19] <gemineye> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:18:33] <gemineye> as opposed to going to each one and setting monitoring to True or False.
[01-May-2009 14:19:02] <cgibbons> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4423 was the defect
[01-May-2009 14:19:28] <cgibbons> and it isn't in 2.3.3, just in the upcoming 2.4.0
[01-May-2009 14:19:40] <cgibbons> not that it couldn't be patched manually
[01-May-2009 14:21:52] <chudler> cgibbons: 2.3.3 has that defect?
[01-May-2009 14:22:11] <gemineye> Any thoughts on why my new server sets all Win Services to be not monitored by default where the older install is the exact opposite?
[01-May-2009 14:22:13] <cgibbons> all versions prior to 2.4.0 have it
[01-May-2009 14:22:32] <chudler> INTERESTING! that sort-of explains something...
[01-May-2009 14:24:04] <chudler> I'd been having this problem, and even have a support ticket open on it, but I am not positive that my method was exactly the same as the ticket (bulk-selection).
[01-May-2009 14:24:16] <cgibbons> not sure about what sets the default behavior to be monitored or not hmmmm lemme see
[01-May-2009 14:28:41] <gemineye> I've got another one for you. What determines if a color dot on the map changes? Some of my systems with yellow statuses don't display on the map but when I do a mouseover of the dot it does show there are non-green issues at that location.
[01-May-2009 14:29:47] <mrayzenoss> the devices on the map have been added to a location
[01-May-2009 14:30:31] <gemineye> All my devices are assigned to a location. Just some times the location dot doesn't change from green when there's an issue at that location.
[01-May-2009 14:31:03] <gemineye> I think I figured it out
[01-May-2009 14:31:43] <gemineye> It only updates the dot for systems in a Production State
[01-May-2009 14:32:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think that some of the prod states removes things from the dashboard
[01-May-2009 14:35:44] <gemineye> Too bad the prod states don't effect the Top Level Organizer portlet. It would be nice to only see production states listed there too.
[01-May-2009 14:44:57] <cluther> gemineye: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4777
[01-May-2009 14:46:13] <cluther> gemineye: Oh.. wait, there is another ticket for this too. It has been fixed for the upcoming 2.4 release.
[01-May-2009 14:46:49] <michaelbuckbee> anyone know if it's ok to use the Debian stack installer on Ubuntu? I tried it and it seemed to work ok (no errors) in install, but I can't determine if the webserver is running
[01-May-2009 14:48:08] <mrayzenoss> michaelbuckbee: yeah, that's supported
[01-May-2009 14:48:19] <mrayzenoss> there's not webserver, it's zope
[01-May-2009 14:48:28] <mrayzenoss> so hit http://yourhost:8080/
[01-May-2009 14:49:07] <michaelbuckbee> I must not have gotten enough sleep last night, didn't see the port listing in the admin pdf
[01-May-2009 14:49:36] <michaelbuckbee> Is there a "getting started guide" or something? Trying to save you from having to deal with my pestering questions
[01-May-2009 14:49:36] <rocket> cluther: ping
[01-May-2009 14:49:37] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.relname, hd4)
[01-May-2009 14:49:37] <gemineye> cool
[01-May-2009 14:49:38] <rocket> AttributeError: relname
[01-May-2009 14:50:15] <mrayzenoss> michaelbuckbee: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[01-May-2009 14:50:24] <mrayzenoss> 3rd link, Getting Started With Zenoss
[01-May-2009 14:50:27] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 14:50:34] <cluther> rocket: I meant the actual name of the relation, like self.vgs
[01-May-2009 14:51:29] <rocket> so self.volumegroup ? and that is the name in the _relation entry?
[01-May-2009 14:51:50] <cluther> yeah
[01-May-2009 14:52:52] <rocket> trying that now
[01-May-2009 14:57:58] <rocket> cluther: how do I get the object back from manage_add etc so that I can set additional attributes for it?
[01-May-2009 15:00:49] <cluther> vg = self.volumegroup._getOb('vgId')
[01-May-2009 15:02:19] <rocket> cluther: basically I can add a "return lv" to manage_addLogicalVolume also?
[01-May-2009 15:04:10] <rocket> cluther: I am really really close now
[01-May-2009 15:04:15] <rocket> but getting this error
[01-May-2009 15:04:18] <rocket> ZenSchemaError: volumegroup restricted to class AIXVolumeGroup. hd4 is class AIXLogicalVolume
[01-May-2009 15:04:26] <rocket> from the call
[01-May-2009 15:04:27] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.volumegroup, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:04:49] <rocket> relationship error you think?
[01-May-2009 15:09:15] <cluther> That code makes it look like you're adding an LV to the VG relation. You'd want to add the VG to the VG relation.
[01-May-2009 15:10:50] <rocket> I think I really wanted manage_addLogicalVolume(self.logicalvolume, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:11:36] <cluther> Yeah.
[01-May-2009 15:12:07] <rocket> grr .. now it wants _setObject from somewhere ..
[01-May-2009 15:13:07] <rocket> or my context of self.logicalvolume does not have _setObject in it
[01-May-2009 15:15:15] <rocket> cluther: so does the line
[01-May-2009 15:15:17] <rocket> ('logicalvolume', ToOne(ToOne, 'ZenPacks.community.AIX.AIXLogicalVolume', 'volumegroup')),
[01-May-2009 15:15:38] <rocket> automatically create self.logicalvolumes inside of the volumegroup class?
[01-May-2009 15:16:16] <cluther> exactly
[01-May-2009 15:16:36] <rocket> then why would it be complaining about _setObject .. :/
[01-May-2009 15:17:03] <rocket> manage_addLogicalVolume(self.logicalvolume, "hd4", False)
[01-May-2009 15:17:03] <rocket> File "/home/zenoss/ZenPacks/ZenPacks.community.AIX/ZenPacks/community/AIX/AIXLogicalVolume.py", line 13, in manage_addLogicalVolume
[01-May-2009 15:17:06] <rocket> context._setObject(lvid, lv)
[01-May-2009 15:17:09] <rocket> AttributeError: _setObject
[01-May-2009 15:17:27] <rocket> missing an import maybe?
[01-May-2009 15:17:34] <cluther> oh.. oops. Did you create that relation on your DeviceHW subclass or Device subclass?
[01-May-2009 15:17:55] <cluther> Wait.. that doesn't matter.
[01-May-2009 15:18:04] <rocket> its actually under OperatingSystem
[01-May-2009 15:18:06] <cluther> These ToOne relations are a bit different.
[01-May-2009 15:18:33] <rocket> os -> volumegroup -> logicalvol
[01-May-2009 15:19:00] <rocket> cluther: change it to a ToManyCont?
[01-May-2009 15:19:48] <cluther> That seems to fit the bill better in this case.
[01-May-2009 15:20:02] <cluther> Since a VG can have many LVs, and this is the primary path to the LVs.
[01-May-2009 15:20:50] <rocket> trying that to see if it resolves my issue
[01-May-2009 15:21:19] <cluther> ("logicalvolumns", ToManyCont(ToOne, "ZenPacks.community.AIX.AIXLogicalVolume", "volumegroup")),
[01-May-2009 15:21:45] <rocket> cluther: yup already have that in there
[01-May-2009 15:21:50] <rocket> just restarting zenoss
[01-May-2009 15:22:47] <rocket> cluther: woohoo .. my simple example worked
[01-May-2009 15:23:06] <rocket> /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/AIX/LPAR/devices/en1nims61.mikl.com/os/volumegroup/nimvg/logicalvolume/hd4
[01-May-2009 15:23:51] <rocket> thanks! .. now to just make the code dynamic .. eg parsing the dict to get the real values into there ..
[01-May-2009 15:24:07] <rocket> and build the web template pages to use the information properly
[01-May-2009 15:24:43] <jb> man
[01-May-2009 15:24:47] <jb> this functionality would be awesome
[01-May-2009 15:24:54] <jb> espeically if we can get it via SSH
[01-May-2009 15:25:16] <jb> so, are you actually creating a new table in the "OS" tab that displays these relationships?
[01-May-2009 15:25:26] <rocket> jb: yes
[01-May-2009 15:25:33] <jb> awesome
[01-May-2009 15:25:38] <jb> if you need me to do any testing, just let me know
[01-May-2009 15:25:38] <rocket> jb: I am overriding the default screens
[01-May-2009 15:26:05] <rocket> jb: it should be one of the most complete zenpacks I know from a code example standpoint also
[01-May-2009 15:26:06] <jb> is the code modular enough to make it use SSH for the modeling?
[01-May-2009 15:26:32] <rocket> jb: should be .. just would need to define new templates and a different modeller
[01-May-2009 15:26:32] <jb> it could be something that the zenoss dev's might want to integrate as well
[01-May-2009 15:26:55] <rocket> jb: its a possibility ..
[01-May-2009 15:27:07] <jb> i know that kells had talked about this before..
[01-May-2009 15:27:33] <rocket> basically I am upgrading his beta aix zenpack .. fixing the things that made it beta ..
[01-May-2009 15:27:52] <rocket> jb: eg relevant cpu info
[01-May-2009 15:28:02] <rocket> jb: relevant paging info etc
[01-May-2009 15:28:27] <rocket> jb: lun ids etc on the info pages ...
[01-May-2009 15:28:27] <jb> and it ONLY uses the aix snmpd?
[01-May-2009 15:28:29] <jb> not net-snmp?
[01-May-2009 15:29:34] <rocket> jb: so far aixsnmpd only
[01-May-2009 15:29:40] <jb> with ptx
[01-May-2009 15:29:43] <jb> im assuming?
[01-May-2009 15:30:02] <rocket> jb: yeah .. still working out the ptx notes etc for the install guide part of it etc ..
[01-May-2009 15:30:07] <jb> oh ok nice
[01-May-2009 15:30:25] <jb> this could possibly keep me from switching to SSH for aix
[01-May-2009 15:30:29] <jb>
[01-May-2009 15:30:40] <rocket> jb: my company likes to keep supported stuff if at all possible .. eg under ibm support ...
[01-May-2009 15:30:50] <jb> yeah
[01-May-2009 15:31:30] <jb> does the aix mib provide any IO stats?
[01-May-2009 15:31:37] <jb> i can't remember..
[01-May-2009 15:32:28] <rmatte> hey, I wrote a python script to dump device UP/DOWN status, but when I use tabs the formatting gets all jumbled based on the length of the device name
[01-May-2009 15:32:43] <rmatte> any quick way around that that someone knows of?
[01-May-2009 15:35:58] <cluther> print "%40s %s" % (d.id, (d.getPingStatus() == 0) and "UP" or "DOWN")
[01-May-2009 15:38:27] <rmatte> ummm, ok wow lol
[01-May-2009 15:38:44] <rmatte> I also want to filter out decommed devices and display the management IP
[01-May-2009 15:39:01] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m2003bb3b
[01-May-2009 15:39:04] <rmatte> there's the script so far
[01-May-2009 15:39:12] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[01-May-2009 15:39:19] <rmatte> ignore the %40, I tried just adding that but it didn't work lol
[01-May-2009 15:42:49] <rmatte> oh, that throws spacing in front
[01-May-2009 15:42:57] <rmatte> any way to throw spacing behind?
[01-May-2009 15:45:30] <rmatte> I want the spacing between the device name and the IP address to be variable
[01-May-2009 15:47:02] <rmatte> ah, I guess I just put it on the second instead of the first
[01-May-2009 15:47:41] <rmatte> hmmm, nope
[01-May-2009 15:48:21] <gemineye> cgibbons: Were you able to find anything to indicate the default monitoring method of Win Services?
[01-May-2009 15:48:36] <jb> anybody here done any integration with other databases or applications?.. looking to pull data out of zope (server name, asset tag, etc) and import into a microsoft sharepoint site..
[01-May-2009 15:49:21] <mrayzenoss> jb: I did a deki mashup
[01-May-2009 15:49:54] <jb> hmm
[01-May-2009 15:49:57] <mrayzenoss> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zenossdeki/
[01-May-2009 15:50:07] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss/Deki Mashup: Zenoss/Deki Mashup (at sourceforge.net)
[01-May-2009 15:50:32] <jb> i'll check that out
[01-May-2009 15:50:32] <jb> thanks
[01-May-2009 16:03:55] <rocket> ok .. cooking with fire now
[01-May-2009 16:04:03] <rocket> cluther: thanks for the pointers today
[01-May-2009 16:04:13] <rmatte> cluther : finally figured it out: print "%-30s %-30s %s" % (d.id, d.manageIp, status)
[01-May-2009 16:04:19] <rmatte> looks awesome
[01-May-2009 16:04:23] <rmatte> thanks for putting me on track
[01-May-2009 16:27:14] <rmatte> there we go, zendump script has been deployed to all servers, booyeh
[01-May-2009 16:35:48] <kisielk> okay, so my XMLRPC question is, is it possible to get information about a device like its production state etc. through XMLRPC ?
[01-May-2009 16:48:51] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07.html#id398769
[01-May-2009 16:48:56] <mrayzenoss> productionState
[01-May-2009 16:49:01] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 16:49:33] <kisielk> okay, how do I actually query it through?
[01-May-2009 16:49:56] <kisielk> *though
[01-May-2009 16:50:52] <kisielk> I guess I need to make scripts in dmd ?
[01-May-2009 16:53:13] <mrayzenoss> here's an example of a Python script for getting if something exists, you could check that exists and then get the productionState
[01-May-2009 16:53:13] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07s04.html#devmgmt_programmatically_existance_python
[01-May-2009 16:53:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 16:53:57] <mrayzenoss> or http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-dev-guide/2.3.3/ch07.html#devmgmt_programmatically_adding_python
[01-May-2009 16:54:07] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Developer's Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 17:14:01] <kisielk> hm okay
[01-May-2009 17:14:09] <kisielk> don't know what the method for getting productionState is
[01-May-2009 17:23:39] <cluther> kisielk: Something like this..
[01-May-2009 17:23:57] <cluther> from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
[01-May-2009 17:24:18] <cluther> s = ServerProxy("http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/centos32")
[01-May-2009 17:24:19] <adytum-bot> cluther: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[01-May-2009 17:24:21] <cluther> s.getProdState()
[01-May-2009 17:24:29] <kisielk> ah, getProdState
[01-May-2009 17:24:38] <kisielk> is there somewhere that has a list of all the methods?
[01-May-2009 17:24:45] <cluther> sure.
[01-May-2009 17:24:47] <kisielk> or do I need to just dig in to the source?
[01-May-2009 17:25:25] <cluther> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.3/ZenModel.Device.Device-class.html
[01-May-2009 17:25:35] <cluther> That's the API doc for the Device class.
[01-May-2009 17:25:35] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenModel.Device.Device (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-May-2009 17:26:07] <cluther> You can see that Device inherits the getProdState method from the DeviceResultInt class.
[01-May-2009 17:26:30] <cluther> So in some ways, the API docs are better because you don't have to manually hunt through the inheritance tree.
[01-May-2009 17:27:31] <kisielk> good point
[01-May-2009 17:27:51] <kisielk> is there a way to access the search through XML-RPC? I'd like to look up devices by name alone, instead of by the full path
[01-May-2009 17:28:54] <kisielk> or do I have to write my own script in dmd for that?
[01-May-2009 17:29:04] <cluther> hmm.. I think there's a way, one sec.
[01-May-2009 17:29:59] <kisielk> I don't like the idea of having to remember the path of everything, it can change any time, and devices should have a unique name anyway
[01-May-2009 17:30:19] <kisielk> so for an external system linking in to Zenoss, it's nice to just be able to look them up by name
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> baseUrl = "http://admin:zenoss@localhost:8080"
[01-May-2009 17:30:57] <cluther> s = ServerProxy(baseUrl + "/zport/dmd/Devices")
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> devicePath = s.findDevicePath("centos32")
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> s = ServerProxy(baseUrl + devicePath)
[01-May-2009 17:30:58] <cluther> print s.getProdState()
[01-May-2009 17:31:30] <kisielk> nice
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[03-May-2009 21:15:19] <UNIX_USENIX> I am getting reports tell me SSH is down. I confirm that it is up and running. I am configured to monitor these hosts by SNMP. Is there a solution to this?
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[04-May-2009 09:06:53] <rmatte> good morning guys, I have a script that dumps out the device ID, Management IP, and ping status for each device on a Zenoss box, I was wondering if anyone knows how it would be possible to add a column with the last state change on the device?
[04-May-2009 09:09:07] <cluther> getLastChangeString
[04-May-2009 09:09:14] <cluther> d.getLastChangeString()
[04-May-2009 09:11:26] <rocket> morning cluther
[04-May-2009 09:14:47] <rmatte> thanks
[04-May-2009 10:38:43] <rmatte> hey cluther, does that actually reflect the last time the ping status on a device changed?
[04-May-2009 10:38:48] <rmatte> or is that like config change?
[04-May-2009 10:38:58] <rmatte> rmatte@gen01:~$ zendump | grep DOWN
[04-May-2009 10:38:58] <rmatte> GP02RICv001 10.17.0.100 DOWN 2009/04/20 14:29:02
[04-May-2009 10:39:08] <rmatte> that device just went down and the status timestamp didn't update
[04-May-2009 10:39:51] <rmatte> yeh, looks like that's the status of the last time that devices were modeled
[04-May-2009 10:40:10] <rmatte> I was looking for actual status of like, the last time they changed from up to down, or down to up
[04-May-2009 10:42:57] <rmatte> I guess I could technically use getLastPollSnmpUpTime, but that's not 100%
[04-May-2009 10:43:06] <rmatte> is there something like getLastPollPing?
[04-May-2009 10:44:55] <rmatte> snmpLastCollection actually I guess would make the most sense
[04-May-2009 10:47:12] <rmatte> ok, and that one doesn't work either
[04-May-2009 10:47:13] <rmatte> grrrr
[04-May-2009 10:48:08] <rmatte> guess there's no easy way to do this, crappy
[04-May-2009 10:48:28] <cluther> hmm.. there may be one decent way if you're also SNMP monitoring the devices.
[04-May-2009 10:48:40] <rmatte> I'm SNMP monitoring the majority
[04-May-2009 10:50:05] <cluther> import time
[04-May-2009 10:50:10] <cluther> now = time.time()
[04-May-2009 10:50:33] <cluther> lastOutage = time.time() - (d.sysUpTime()/100)
[04-May-2009 10:50:58] <rmatte> hmm, looks pretty decent, I'll try it out
[04-May-2009 10:53:29] <rmatte> ummm, it outputs it like 1233853473.81
[04-May-2009 10:53:36] <rmatte> any way to format that in to a regular date?
[04-May-2009 10:55:02] <rmatte> (a quick way I mean, without me having to write some big procedure)
[04-May-2009 10:56:59] <rmatte> because time.time() simply returns the time in seconds since the epoch UTC
[04-May-2009 10:59:07] <rmatte> actually, that doesn't work at all
[04-May-2009 10:59:15] <rmatte> that only shows the time since the last actual reboot
[04-May-2009 10:59:24] <rmatte> not since the last time the node became unreachable
[04-May-2009 10:59:40] <cluther> Doh.. true.
[04-May-2009 10:59:41] <rmatte> like, what if a network circuit goes down and we lose connectivity, that's the time/date we want to see
[04-May-2009 11:00:07] <cluther> We'd need some kind of method to find the last ping down event in history.
[04-May-2009 11:00:14] <cluther> That doesn't currently exist
[04-May-2009 11:00:48] <rmatte> crappy
[04-May-2009 11:00:50] <rmatte> oh well
[04-May-2009 11:24:28] <rmatte> or have some method to set some sort of zope value each time the device is either ping up or ping down
[04-May-2009 11:24:34] <rmatte> would come in handy
[04-May-2009 11:56:02] <rmatte> does Zenoss gather it's uptime info based on the sysUpTime datapoint in Device templates?
[04-May-2009 11:56:22] <rmatte> or can it be the sysUpTime datapoint in any template?
[04-May-2009 11:56:45] <rmatte> It's gathering uptime info perfectly fine for all of the network equipment that I'm monitoring but not for any of the windows boxes
[04-May-2009 12:07:42] <cluther> rmatte: Any datapoint named sysUpTime will be used. It doesn't matter which template collects it.
[04-May-2009 12:09:06] <rmatte> awesome
[04-May-2009 12:09:07] <rmatte> thanks
[04-May-2009 12:14:54] <rmatte> weird, now I'm getting a Zenoss Error every time I go to a device's templates page
[04-May-2009 12:15:23] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m62748067
[04-May-2009 12:15:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-May-2009 12:15:45] <rmatte> all I did was create a template called sysUpTime at the /Devices level with that datapoint in it then bind it to the /Windows class
[04-May-2009 12:15:50] <rmatte> and now everything is screwed up
[04-May-2009 12:18:15] <rmatte> I reset bindings on /Windows and now it's working
[04-May-2009 12:18:29] <rmatte> strange
[04-May-2009 12:35:27] <rmatte> how often does it actually collect the sysuptime info?
[04-May-2009 12:35:50] <rmatte> I've got a bunch of windows systems which I've added the syUpTime datapoint to their Device templates and I still see no uptime info for them
[04-May-2009 12:41:49] <rmatte> (and yes, SNMP is working correctly on them)
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[04-May-2009 12:53:30] <rmatte> oh, I forgot to make the actual gauge datapoints
[04-May-2009 12:53:33] <rmatte> stupid me
[04-May-2009 12:57:52] <AngryParsley> quick question: Last Change: 2009/04/10 11:00:10
[04-May-2009 12:57:52] <AngryParsley> Last Collection: 2009/04/10 11:00:10
[04-May-2009 12:58:10] <AngryParsley> that means if the machine died over the week-end, zenoss won't alert, right?
[04-May-2009 12:58:21] <AngryParsley> since the last time it got data was a few weeks ago
[04-May-2009 12:58:40] <rmatte> last collection just means the last time it was modelled
[04-May-2009 12:58:46] <rmatte> not literally the last time it collected data
[04-May-2009 12:59:02] <rmatte> last change means the last time you did a configuration change to the device in Zenoss
[04-May-2009 12:59:14] <AngryParsley> ok. I know nothing about zenoss but a machine went down and zenoss says it's up
[04-May-2009 12:59:52] <AngryParsley> like, machine is dead. unpingable, doesn't accept TCP connections, snmp is dead on it.
[04-May-2009 13:00:07] <AngryParsley> zenoss says it's fine. so I'm betting zenoss is configured incorrectly
[04-May-2009 13:02:32] <AngryParsley> is there a wiki or some place with documentation on how to deal with this?
[04-May-2009 13:08:14] <mrayzenoss> is there anything on the Events tab for that machine?
[04-May-2009 13:09:34] <AngryParsley> doesn't look like it. to see the most events I should put severity at clear, right?
[04-May-2009 13:10:17] <AngryParsley> if I look at event history the last event is on 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:10:59] <AngryParsley> ah, wait I found one from 4/27
[04-May-2009 13:11:22] <AngryParsley> summary Error reading value for "PERC (2 is good)" on sppw012iad.io.askjeeves.info (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3582.1.1.2.1.3.0.0 is bad)
[04-May-2009 13:11:27] <AngryParsley> severity Debug (1)
[04-May-2009 13:11:39] <AngryParsley> stateChange 2009/04/27 16:49:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:11:39] <AngryParsley> firstTime 2009/03/16 22:44:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:11:40] <AngryParsley> lastTime 2009/04/27 16:49:11.000
[04-May-2009 13:12:01] <AngryParsley> ick
[04-May-2009 13:12:03] <AngryParsley> count 11983
[04-May-2009 13:12:19] <AngryParsley> is there a zenoss pastebin?
[04-May-2009 13:12:58] <mrayzenoss> not externally
[04-May-2009 13:13:35] <AngryParsley> http://pastebin.com/d231be6f
[04-May-2009 13:13:46] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[04-May-2009 13:14:24] <AngryParsley> the monitoring isn't my department, but it seems like they screwed up the monitors and didn't tell anyone
[04-May-2009 13:15:24] <mrayzenoss> the deletedTime is when is was moved to history
[04-May-2009 13:15:38] <AngryParsley> and I'd like to make sure I'm not a complete fool before accusing them of anything
[04-May-2009 13:15:48] <mrayzenoss> if you look at the log, there should be an entry
[04-May-2009 13:16:09] <AngryParsley> yes, there was an entry
[04-May-2009 13:16:20] <AngryParsley> that's how I found the event
[04-May-2009 13:16:36] <AngryParsley> the machine went down on 5/2 though
[04-May-2009 13:16:47] <AngryParsley> and it's still down now, and zenoss still says it's up
[04-May-2009 13:17:28] <mrayzenoss> if you go to the Status page, what does "State" say?
[04-May-2009 13:17:50] <AngryParsley> #
[04-May-2009 13:17:50] <AngryParsley> # Status: Up
[04-May-2009 13:17:59] <AngryParsley> State Production
[04-May-2009 13:18:14] <AngryParsley> and all the cool icons are green
[04-May-2009 13:18:24] <AngryParsley> 0 events of any color. even gray
[04-May-2009 13:18:58] <AngryParsley> I'll upload a screenshot
[04-May-2009 13:19:07] <mrayzenoss> I believe you, just thinking
[04-May-2009 13:19:31] <mrayzenoss> if you go to Settings->Daemons is everything running?
[04-May-2009 13:19:34] <AngryParsley> http://abughrai.be/pics/zenoss.png
[04-May-2009 13:20:17] <AngryParsley> settings?
[04-May-2009 13:20:44] <mrayzenoss> Yeah, on the left navigation, under Management there's "Settings"
[04-May-2009 13:20:56] <AngryParsley> I don't have admin privs :/
[04-May-2009 13:21:07] <AngryParsley> I guess that's where my probing stops :/
[04-May-2009 13:21:09] <mrayzenoss> ahhh, it's easier to figure things out as Admin
[04-May-2009 13:21:21] <AngryParsley> heh, yes, it is
[04-May-2009 13:21:33] <mrayzenoss> Is everything else monitoring OK?
[04-May-2009 13:22:31] <AngryParsley> I don't think so, but I'm not about to try rebooting production machines
[04-May-2009 13:23:09] <AngryParsley> I haven't seen any alerts with severity > info that are newer than mid-april
[04-May-2009 13:23:10] <mrayzenoss> if you look at other machines you're monitoring, what does it say for "Last Collection"
[04-May-2009 13:23:22] <AngryParsley> they're all 4/10 or 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:23:40] <AngryParsley> but rmatte said that doesn't mean the data wasn't collected
[04-May-2009 13:24:12] <mrayzenoss> if you go to the Perf tab do you have updated graphs?
[04-May-2009 13:25:04] <AngryParsley> ooh. if I go to localhost's perf tab and look at graphs, collected events drops to 0 on 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:25:11] <AngryParsley> and it has been that way ever since
[04-May-2009 13:25:34] <AngryParsley> the graphs are up to date though
[04-May-2009 13:25:44] <mrayzenoss> ugh
[04-May-2009 13:25:48] <mrayzenoss> yeah, sounds like something died. I'd bet there's an event for that somewhere that got ignored
[04-May-2009 13:26:03] <mrayzenoss> perhaps around 4/10 or 4/11
[04-May-2009 13:26:27] <mrayzenoss> I'd get your Admin user to track it down
[04-May-2009 13:27:39] <AngryParsley> yeah, I opened a ticket. really though, you'd think they'd notice that nothing broke for 3 weeks
[04-May-2009 13:27:52] <AngryParsley> I mean thousands of machines don't just stay up without failure for that long
[04-May-2009 13:27:53] <mrayzenoss> heh, yeah
[04-May-2009 13:28:12] <mrayzenoss> what version?
[04-May-2009 13:28:38] <AngryParsley> of zenoss? how do I find out?
[04-May-2009 13:29:03] <mrayzenoss> on the login screen
[04-May-2009 13:29:13] <mrayzenoss> it says "Version 2.3.3" or whatever
[04-May-2009 13:29:28] <AngryParsley> 2.3.0
[04-May-2009 13:30:24] <mrayzenoss> hmmm... I'd recommend upgrading to 2.3.3, or better yet, 2.4 when it comes out.
[04-May-2009 13:30:42] <AngryParsley> yeah..... we very recently started using zenoss. before this was sitescope
[04-May-2009 13:30:45] <AngryParsley> which was the worst thing ever
[04-May-2009 13:30:46] <mrayzenoss> This doesn't sound like a known issue to me, there were just a whole lot of stability improvements in the later 2.3 releases and 2.4 has over 600 tickets closed against it
[04-May-2009 13:31:05] <AngryParsley> I would bet on a configuration issue before a bug in zenoss
[04-May-2009 13:32:32] <mrayzenoss> hopefully, I just know the amount of QA and testing in 2.3 has really improved the quality lately
[04-May-2009 13:32:44] <AngryParsley> well that's good
[04-May-2009 13:33:03] <AngryParsley> I'm still amazed at how much better this is compared to sitescope
[04-May-2009 13:34:01] <AngryParsley> thanks for your help. I guess I'll idle in here in case anyone else has any advice
[04-May-2009 13:41:05] <jmp242> AngryParsley: You may want to post in the Zenoss Users forum, with relevant information - lots more users read that beyond IRC
[04-May-2009 13:42:16] <rmatte> ummm, when I click on a process that's being monitored the graphs for CPU, memory, and process count for that process don't load at all
[04-May-2009 13:42:22] <rmatte> anyone have any idea why?
[04-May-2009 13:46:44] <dollarbang> anybody out there help a newbie with a "windows"/zenoss question?
[04-May-2009 13:49:06] <rmatte> name the question
[04-May-2009 13:49:40] <AngryParsley> jmp242: ah, it turned out that lots of zenoss stuff had crashed
[04-May-2009 13:50:04] <AngryParsley> zenhub, zenmodeler, zenwin, and zeneventlog
[04-May-2009 13:50:18] <jmp242> dollarbang: sure, but maybe start here: trac-zenpacks/wiki/CommunityFAQGeneral
[04-May-2009 13:57:04] <dollarbang> been there, everything was working fine until a Unix SA's applied some ZenPacks last Friday. I was using a local admin account, instead of a domain account. I waited on the Lock to clear (we have it dynamically set to clear after so many minutes).
[04-May-2009 13:58:08] <dollarbang> then reactivated each of the windows devices one at a time, then all 3 started receiving error connects.
[04-May-2009 14:01:45] <jmp242> which zenpacks were installed? What version of Zenoss are you running? As I understand, you have 3 Windows devices, and all 3 give error messages. What is the error message?
[04-May-2009 14:11:14] <dollarbang> "Could not read the Windows event log (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)." I'll get the Zenpacks and level in a minute (I know it isn't Blue Crab)
[04-May-2009 14:12:44] <rmatte> dollarbang: Win2K8 devices?
[04-May-2009 14:15:16] <dollarbang> two are w2k, one is w2k3, no w2k8 (yet), Zenoss Version 2.3.3, Zenpacks: Printer, ZenPacks.Ricoh.SvcCheck (local), ZenPacks.fdeckert.myeventviews
[04-May-2009 14:17:18] <rmatte> you're sure that the account that you're using has appropriate access on those servers?
[04-May-2009 14:18:42] <dollarbang> yes, that was the first thing I checked, after I had the account unlocked, I remote connected to each server, as well as map'd a drive to each server.
[04-May-2009 14:19:40] <rmatte> that hap[pens sometimes on my win2k8 box, and I have to reboot it to get WMI working again
[04-May-2009 14:21:43] <dollarbang> thanks, I'll get with the Windows support team, and see if they can help in finding a resolution. One of the windows servers (the w2k3) box was rebooted this morning, the other two have been up for more than 30 days.
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[04-May-2009 14:28:23] <mrayzenoss> so I heard that Win2K8 has an SSH daemon?
[04-May-2009 14:28:37] <rmatte> no idea
[04-May-2009 14:28:48] <rmatte> I believe so though
[04-May-2009 14:29:07] <mrayzenoss> I wonder if that would be easier than dealing with WMI?
[04-May-2009 14:29:28] <rmatte> probably, I prefer just using a mixture of SNMP and WMI myself
[04-May-2009 14:29:38] <rmatte> SNMP for everything except the process monitoring
[04-May-2009 14:30:26] <mrayzenoss> WMI is infuriating to configure.
[04-May-2009 14:30:36] <rmatte> it can be hehe
[04-May-2009 14:31:01] <rmatte> SNMP is nice, though it can be a pain in the ass on windows boxes, especially with gathering performance data on stuff like memory
[04-May-2009 14:31:13] <rmatte> I had to write a script that actually hunts down the right OID for the memory
[04-May-2009 14:31:19] <rmatte> since it always changes from server to server
[04-May-2009 14:31:38] <rmatte> works nicely though
[04-May-2009 14:37:23] <jb> i don't have any problems with snmp+wmi on windows
[04-May-2009 14:37:36] <jb> and creating WMI datasources is simple
[04-May-2009 14:38:53] <mrayzenoss> I guess it's just my experiences with Windows XP that have soured me on it. Never have been much of a windows admin
[04-May-2009 14:39:13] <rmatte> yeh, I'm more of a Linux guy myself
[04-May-2009 14:39:22] <rmatte> but I can deal with server 2003, and 2008
[04-May-2009 14:40:16] <mrayzenoss> I guess that's what I get for running XP at all
[04-May-2009 14:40:18] <mrayzenoss>
[04-May-2009 14:40:45] <rmatte> I don't use Windows really much anyone
[04-May-2009 14:40:52] <rmatte> I have Linux on both my home PCs and my work PC
[04-May-2009 14:41:04] <mrayzenoss> yeah, it's just my gaming box
[04-May-2009 14:41:17] <rmatte> I've got my PS3 for that
[04-May-2009 14:41:19] <rmatte>
[04-May-2009 14:41:24] <mrayzenoss> yeah, xbox
[04-May-2009 14:41:52] <rmatte> I'd get an xbox but I find the controllers are uncomfortable and I don't want to have to pay monthly to play online
[04-May-2009 14:42:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I just got tired of upgrading my gaming PC and really wanted to play Left 4 Dead
[04-May-2009 14:42:54] <mrayzenoss> so I rationalized it to the missus as a cost-saver
[04-May-2009 14:43:13] <mrayzenoss> xbox cheaper than new PC
[04-May-2009 14:43:21] <rmatte> hehe
[04-May-2009 14:43:27] <rmatte> I'm a CoD4 junkie
[04-May-2009 14:44:24] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's on my to-play list
[04-May-2009 14:44:33] <rmatte> best game ever
[04-May-2009 14:44:49] <rmatte> although CoD World at War isn't that great in comparison
[04-May-2009 14:45:02] <rmatte> I can't wait until Modern Warfare 2 comes out
[04-May-2009 14:45:09] <mrayzenoss> I took a few years off of gaming to go to graduate school while working, so I have a massive backlog of games to catch up on
[04-May-2009 14:45:23] <rmatte> I only really play CoD4, and very sparingly
[04-May-2009 14:45:33] <rmatte> too much work
[04-May-2009 14:45:46] <mrayzenoss> yeah, me too. I average about 1-2 hours a week
[04-May-2009 14:46:08] <rmatte> same, though sometimes I'll sit and play for like 6 hours straight some random night
[04-May-2009 14:46:43] <mrayzenoss> sounds fun
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[04-May-2009 14:47:28] <rmatte> yup
[04-May-2009 14:48:32] <jb> cod waw is awesome
[04-May-2009 14:48:35] <jb> so was cod4..
[04-May-2009 14:50:06] <rmatte> I just don't like the tanks
[04-May-2009 14:50:19] <rmatte> and the guns are kind of lame, except for the type 100 and some of the sniper rifles
[04-May-2009 14:50:29] <rmatte> oh, and the trench gun
[04-May-2009 14:50:56] <jb> hmm, can I not add individual reports to zenpacks?
[04-May-2009 14:50:58] <jb> easily
[04-May-2009 14:55:05] <jb> nm
[04-May-2009 15:03:04] <jb> hm so the zenpack doesn't like the service class
[04-May-2009 15:03:06] <jb> won't reinstall it
[04-May-2009 15:03:42] <rmatte> is it a service class which doesn't exist already?
[04-May-2009 15:03:46] <jb> right
[04-May-2009 15:03:50] <jb> i want it to create one
[04-May-2009 15:04:08] <rmatte> then you need to add the actual class to the zenpack instead of just the report
[04-May-2009 15:04:19] <rmatte> and then remove any reports from that class in the zenpack that you don't want
[04-May-2009 15:04:24] <jb> yeah
[04-May-2009 15:04:44] <jb> ah i got it
[04-May-2009 15:04:48] <jb> yeah i added the services, not the class
[04-May-2009 15:04:59] <rmatte> yuppers
[04-May-2009 15:05:09] <jb> do I need to add the individual services too?
[04-May-2009 15:07:16] <jb> ugh, it tried to actually put my devices in the zenpack
[04-May-2009 15:08:50] <jb> hmm
[04-May-2009 15:12:10] <jb> im not even sure why it included these devices
[04-May-2009 15:12:15] <jb> i didn't even add their device class
[04-May-2009 15:12:41] <jb> they are in the <tomany> in objects.xml
[04-May-2009 15:20:24] <rmatte> odd
[04-May-2009 15:20:43] <rmatte> You shouldn't technically be able to package devices in a Zenpack
[04-May-2009 16:07:30] <rmatte> so is there any particular reason why all processes being monitored in Zenoss via SNMP don't show CPU, memory, and number of processes?
[04-May-2009 16:07:34] <rmatte> the graphs just don't load
[04-May-2009 16:48:52] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: have you looked at Jane Curry's processing monitoring paper? It probably covers something that is missing: http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jcurry.html
[04-May-2009 16:49:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Papers and Presentations by Jane Curry (at www.skills-1st.co.uk)
[04-May-2009 16:49:08] <rmatte> nope, I'll take a read, thanks
[04-May-2009 16:56:10] <rmatte> any idea why the OSProcesses template has SNMP datapoints with no OIDs?
[04-May-2009 17:02:33] <rmatte> that paper doesn't really have anything in relation to this issue
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[04-May-2009 17:04:46] <rmatte> unfortunately
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[04-May-2009 19:58:43] <CamargoBP> Hey if you need to take a break from configuring zenoss check out what I found. It's fun. http://camargobp.mybrute.com
[04-May-2009 20:19:25] <rmatte>
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[05-May-2009 01:21:07] <xulfer> Hey, I'm having some issues getting graphs to display within my multi-graph report. I'm trying to get a throughput graph on all the devices in the collection. I have a graph definition pointed at ifinoctets, and ifoutoctets, as well as a couple graph groups to display them. Yet I get nothing but empty boxes with question marks in them. Any ideas?
[05-May-2009 06:08:07] <eNeRGi> good afternoon.
[05-May-2009 06:08:39] <eNeRGi> I have one question that I've been trying to find the answer to now for too many hours... hope someone here can help me.
[05-May-2009 06:08:49] <eNeRGi> I'm actually quite sure it has come up before
[05-May-2009 06:08:56] <eNeRGi> I have a CPU idle graph.
[05-May-2009 06:09:11] <eNeRGi> which at the moment shows me 400%, as I have 4 cores in the machine I'm monitoring
[05-May-2009 06:09:29] <eNeRGi> I would want this normalized, and actually have it somewhat working with an external zencommand
[05-May-2009 06:09:46] <eNeRGi> but now I stumbled across the ${here/os} etc variables
[05-May-2009 06:10:13] <eNeRGi> so question 1. is there a list of these variables somewhere? i.e. what data can be easily accessed via that method?
[05-May-2009 06:10:51] <eNeRGi> and question 2. is there a way to use any of that data to divide the cpu idle % with the number of cpus without using data from a zencommand?
[05-May-2009 06:10:58] <eNeRGi> something like:
[05-May-2009 06:11:22] <eNeRGi> RPN: ${here/os/cpuCount},/
[05-May-2009 08:16:24] <rocket> morning cluther
[05-May-2009 08:52:38] <rmatte> bizarre, I have some ethernet interfaces on 3 different servers that suddenly just stopped collecting traffic data and are complaining about bad OIDs
[05-May-2009 08:52:46] <rmatte> even though it was working fine up until a couple of days ago
[05-May-2009 08:52:50] <rmatte> seeing stuff like...
[05-May-2009 08:53:00] <rmatte> Error reading value for "HP NC3163 Fast Ethernet NIC" on AP02RICv001 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.65539 is bad)
[05-May-2009 08:53:20] <rmatte> but an snmpwalk...
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> AP02RICv001
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.1 = Counter32: 43021494
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.65540 = Counter32: 0
[05-May-2009 08:53:21] <rmatte> IF-MIB::ifOutOctets.131075 = Counter32: 4036304
[05-May-2009 08:53:38] <rmatte> there isn't even a .65539 value, not sure what's going on there
[05-May-2009 08:54:45] <rmatte> any ideas?
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[05-May-2009 08:57:06] <rmatte> SNMP Index 65539 on the IP Interface shows as 65539, maybe I just need to remodel
[05-May-2009 08:57:19] <cluther> rmatte: That's exactly right.
[05-May-2009 08:57:27] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 08:57:47] <rmatte> strange that it would just suddenly change like that
[05-May-2009 08:58:29] <rmatte> that Windows SNMP agent is a wacky thing
[05-May-2009 08:59:58] <rmatte> also, none of the processes currently being monitored via SNMP show any CPU or memory utilization info...
[05-May-2009 09:00:20] <rmatte> Matt pointed me to a paper by Jane on process monitoring, I read through but it doesn't really have anything that helps me with this issue
[05-May-2009 09:00:31] <cluther> rmatte: What version are you running again?
[05-May-2009 09:00:38] <rmatte> latest stable version
[05-May-2009 09:00:46] <rmatte> 2.3.3 I think?
[05-May-2009 09:00:53] * rmatte checks
[05-May-2009 09:01:11] <rmatte> yup, 2.3.3
[05-May-2009 09:01:45] <cluther> rmatte: Do you know that the up/down monitoring of processes is working?
[05-May-2009 09:02:00] <rmatte> not really sure actually
[05-May-2009 09:02:04] <rmatte> they show as up
[05-May-2009 09:02:11] <rmatte> haven't really seen any alerts for any going down
[05-May-2009 09:02:26] <rmatte> something we need to test today I guess
[05-May-2009 09:02:42] <cluther> rmatte: You could try running "zenprocess run" to see if it runs properly or if there are any errors.
[05-May-2009 09:03:16] <rmatte> I'll try that right now...
[05-May-2009 09:03:35] <rmatte> ah, I need why the interface info changed, they added another NIC
[05-May-2009 09:03:40] <rmatte> I see why*
[05-May-2009 09:03:58] <jb> 2.4 out today
[05-May-2009 09:04:01] <rmatte> ok, firing off zenprocess...
[05-May-2009 09:04:06] <rmatte> 2.4 is officially released today?
[05-May-2009 09:04:14] <rmatte> or just next beta?
[05-May-2009 09:04:21] <jb> 2.4 core
[05-May-2009 09:04:24] <rmatte> cool
[05-May-2009 09:04:46] <rmatte> I'll upgrade our Lab box then later and make sure that everything goes smoothly
[05-May-2009 09:10:02] <rmatte> I don't seen any 2.4 download links up on the site yet
[05-May-2009 09:10:07] <rmatte> is the release a bit later on?
[05-May-2009 09:12:40] <rmatte> ummmmm
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> zenoss@gen01:/home/rmatte$ zenprocess run
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Connected to ZenHub
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 5 devices and 12 processes
[05-May-2009 09:12:41] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 09:12:42] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 09:12:53] <rmatte> I know we're monitoring a heck of a lot more processes than that
[05-May-2009 09:13:00] <rmatte> Timeout issue?
[05-May-2009 09:15:16] <cluther> rmatte: Try doing a reindex() then commit() in zendmd. Then run zenprocess again and see if the results differ.
[05-May-2009 09:15:23] <rmatte> ok
[05-May-2009 09:15:39] <rmatte> just need to finish modelling these 2 other servers then I'll try it out
[05-May-2009 09:16:07] <rmatte> So does that reindex everything then commit it back to zope?
[05-May-2009 09:17:54] <cluther> Right. I'm thinking that the processes got set to monitored, but this was no reflected in the catalog.
[05-May-2009 09:18:03] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 09:18:09] <rmatte> does this sort of thing happen often?
[05-May-2009 09:18:18] <cluther> We've had a couple of tickets surrounding this problem. If we can confirm it then we at least know that it is fixed in 2.4.
[05-May-2009 09:18:20] <rmatte> might be a nice feature to have right in the UI
[05-May-2009 09:18:29] <rmatte> something like Manage -> Reindex & Commit
[05-May-2009 09:18:48] <jmp242> anyone know if there's a reason Zenoss 2.3.3 might mount home directories beyond it's own?
[05-May-2009 09:19:02] <cluther> rmatte: It's really a band-aid. Our general feeling is that we'd rather know about the problems than run some process to silently fix them.
[05-May-2009 09:19:03] <rmatte> oh, you fixed this sort of thing in 2.4, nice
[05-May-2009 09:19:20] <rmatte> yeh, true enough
[05-May-2009 09:20:23] <rmatte> "mount home directories"?
[05-May-2009 09:20:25] <rmatte> explain/
[05-May-2009 09:20:58] <rmatte> == ?
[05-May-2009 09:21:48] <rocket> cluther: if I have a modeler returns results missing columns does that mean I am trying to get too many snmp vars at once?
[05-May-2009 09:22:03] <jmp242> oh, somehow our Zenoss Server has mounted all of our users home directories from the home directory server via NFS
[05-May-2009 09:22:18] <jmp242> we're trying to track down perhaps why this has happened
[05-May-2009 09:22:29] <rmatte> I wasn't even aware that Zenoss contained the functionality to mount an nfs share
[05-May-2009 09:22:47] <rmatte> you sure it's not some script that you whipped together gone haywire?
[05-May-2009 09:23:34] <rocket> have an automount running perhaps jmp242? and somehow touched the wrong directories?
[05-May-2009 09:23:47] <rmatte> yeh, that could be it as well
[05-May-2009 09:26:07] <jmp242> well, I haven't written any scripts to hit odd directories that I'm aware of ... but I'm trying to narrow this down... Has anyone had it stop looking at the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames?
[05-May-2009 09:26:41] <jmp242> I think it recently (maybe after our upgrade from 2.2.4 to 2.3.3) started erroring on /AFS directories
[05-May-2009 09:26:48] <rmatte> only when I made a syntax error/spelling mistake
[05-May-2009 09:27:05] <jmp242> but this is our entry:
[05-May-2009 09:27:09] <jmp242> mm
[05-May-2009 09:27:18] <jmp242> this: /nfs/|/cdat/|/a/|/afs/|/home/
[05-May-2009 09:29:04] <rmatte> hmmm, maybe you have to do something to make the /home one apply recursively?
[05-May-2009 09:30:14] <jmp242> mmm
[05-May-2009 09:31:24] <jmp242> What's weird is we aren't seeing /home events or filesystems in the OS tab. Odder is we are seeing /afs though
[05-May-2009 09:32:01] <jmp242> and it's giving: /afs 8.6GB 79.6GB -71.0GB 927
[05-May-2009 09:32:20] <jmp242> so somehow a negative free space
[05-May-2009 09:32:39] <jmp242> would a re-model maybe get rid of the spurious /afs monitoring?
[05-May-2009 09:36:29] <rmatte> it might
[05-May-2009 09:36:43] <rmatte> The ignore lines require remodels
[05-May-2009 09:36:50] <rmatte> if you add an ignore but don't remodel it does nothing
[05-May-2009 09:38:50] <rmatte> big Zenpacks seem to make zProperties take forever to load/save, might be something to look in to fixing for King Crab
[05-May-2009 09:39:22] <rmatte> and by big I mean huge (Cisco Mibs pack)
[05-May-2009 09:39:40] <rmatte> it's like it has to reindex all zenpacks before it'll load zProperties
[05-May-2009 09:39:52] <rmatte> same thing for actually loading the Zenpacks page
[05-May-2009 09:53:53] <jmp242> so this is really weird
[05-May-2009 09:56:10] <jmp242> if I change my zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames
[05-May-2009 09:56:19] <jmp242> to be : /nfs/|/cdat/|/a/|/afs|/home/
[05-May-2009 09:56:32] <jmp242> now it does what I expect, and doesn't monitor /afs/
[05-May-2009 09:57:03] <jmp242> but regex of /afs/ should match /afs/ just like /afs matches /afs/ ...
[05-May-2009 09:57:04] <rmatte> you might not even need the trailing /'s
[05-May-2009 09:57:34] <jmp242> well, we do sort of, because there could be /afserl/ or something else in the future
[05-May-2009 09:57:53] <jmp242> we are more worried because we currently have /a/ in there
[05-May-2009 09:57:55] <rmatte> well, technically "/afs" refers to the directory itself while "/afs/" refers more to the contents of the directory, maybe Zenoss is just quirky like that
[05-May-2009 09:57:56] <jmp242> and that is working
[05-May-2009 09:58:19] <rmatte> maybe it's a combination of the s and the /?
[05-May-2009 09:58:26] <jmp242> mmm
[05-May-2009 09:58:39] <jmp242> I wonder if the back end parsing changed between 2.2.4 and 2.3.3
[05-May-2009 09:58:39] <rmatte> is /nfs/ working?
[05-May-2009 09:58:44] <jmp242> seems to be
[05-May-2009 09:58:48] <rmatte> it's possible
[05-May-2009 09:58:48] <jmp242> which is why this is so weird
[05-May-2009 09:58:52] <rmatte> hmm
[05-May-2009 10:05:09] <rmatte> too bad you guys don't have a "Zenoss Merchandise" section on your site, I want a Zenny Zebra for my desk lol
[05-May-2009 10:09:38] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: heh, those are like 10 cents each, we give away a couple hundred at every conference
[05-May-2009 10:09:54] <mrayzenoss> we'll be at SouthEast Linux Fest next month
[05-May-2009 10:10:13] <rmatte> I've seen the photos, but I can't really make any of the conferences unless you guys come out to BSD Can next year
[05-May-2009 10:11:14] <mrayzenoss> ahh, this weekend
[05-May-2009 10:11:23] <rmatte> yeh
[05-May-2009 10:11:29] <mrayzenoss> kinda short notice
[05-May-2009 10:11:32] <rmatte> hehe
[05-May-2009 10:11:37] <rmatte> that's why I said, next year
[05-May-2009 10:12:00] <mrayzenoss> hopefully we'll have real ports next year
[05-May-2009 10:12:00] <rmatte> but it's something to look at, Ottawa is one of the biggest IT cities in Canada
[05-May-2009 10:12:23] <rmatte> would be nice to see you guys up here hehe
[05-May-2009 10:13:54] <rmatte> now to see if this reindexing that Chet suggested actually works...
[05-May-2009 10:15:27] <jb> i have a couple of zebras on my desk
[05-May-2009 10:15:27] <jb>
[05-May-2009 10:16:00] <jb> zenoss is in chicago this thusday too
[05-May-2009 10:16:03] <jb> not sure where you are located..
[05-May-2009 10:16:11] <mrayzenoss> maybe we should send Ian, he's in Waterloo
[05-May-2009 10:16:23] <rmatte> yeh, Waterloo isn't far
[05-May-2009 10:16:32] <rmatte> well, it sort of is, but not that bad hehe
[05-May-2009 10:16:47] <mrayzenoss> closer than Kells, he's in Calgary
[05-May-2009 10:17:02] <rmatte> yeh, there's no way I can make Chicago, especially since I don't currently have a passport
[05-May-2009 10:17:12] <jmp242> mmm, is there another better way to disable monitoring of just /afs/ than the zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames ...?
[05-May-2009 10:17:12] <chudler> What's Zenoss doing in Chicago?
[05-May-2009 10:17:15] <rmatte> cool, didn't know you guys had people all over the place like that
[05-May-2009 10:17:23] <rmatte> thought you were all in the US
[05-May-2009 10:17:23] <mrayzenoss> CAMP IT
[05-May-2009 10:17:26] <jb> chudler: CAMPIT
[05-May-2009 10:17:32] <jb> im going..
[05-May-2009 10:17:41] <jb> its like 10minutes from my office
[05-May-2009 10:17:52] <rmatte> jb: nice
[05-May-2009 10:17:59] <mrayzenoss> cool, I don't know who's going, I figure it's an Enterprise thing
[05-May-2009 10:18:10] <jb> yeah its gary myk
[05-May-2009 10:18:13] <jb> and dahl is speaking
[05-May-2009 10:19:58] <mrayzenoss> someone from Ottawa Linux Symposium did stop by at LinuxFest NW. Said we should go
[05-May-2009 10:20:13] <rmatte> you should
[05-May-2009 10:20:20] <rmatte> we have quite a few of things like that here
[05-May-2009 10:20:28] <mrayzenoss> heh, looking at the business card now, it was Ontario LinuxFest
[05-May-2009 10:20:47] <rmatte> I used to be a heavy FreeBSD user, so that's why I caught on to BSDCan, but I also occasionally go to some Linux related events as well
[05-May-2009 10:21:08] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I always see the same FreeBSD people at the Linux conventions
[05-May-2009 10:21:47] <rmatte> yeh, I haven't used FreeBSD in like 3 years, but I used it for like 5 years before I even touched Linux, so I still remember all the intricacies of it
[05-May-2009 10:22:56] <rmatte> I also dabbled with NetBSD and OpenBSD
[05-May-2009 10:23:03] <rmatte> fun fun
[05-May-2009 10:23:06] <jb> i used to be a fbsd junkie
[05-May-2009 10:23:12] <jb> im pretty much all linux now..
[05-May-2009 10:23:17] <jb> at my current shop, at least
[05-May-2009 10:23:29] <rmatte> jb: same, all linux now at home and at work
[05-May-2009 10:23:46] <rmatte> migrated my FreeBSD server to Gentoo about 3 years ago
[05-May-2009 10:23:52] <jb> well, i run windows on my desktop stuff.. and we have a fairly large AD infrastructure here as well
[05-May-2009 10:23:55] <jb> so i dabble in lots
[05-May-2009 10:24:19] <rmatte> ah, I run Linux on my desktop at work, but I have a Windows virtual machine for Microsoft CRM, Exchange, etc...
[05-May-2009 10:24:37] <rmatte> wow, now Zenprocess is picking everything up
[05-May-2009 10:24:43] <rmatte> thanks Chet, it was the index
[05-May-2009 10:24:54] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 47 devices and 146 processes
[05-May-2009 10:24:54] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 10:24:55] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 10:25:00] <rmatte> looks a bit better than before
[05-May-2009 10:29:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: if that was something not covered in Jane Curry's process monitoring paper, perhaps you could send her a note about it
[05-May-2009 10:30:14] <rmatte> I sure will
[05-May-2009 10:30:37] <rmatte> wow
[05-May-2009 10:30:46] <rmatte> got a huuuuuge flood of process down notifications
[05-May-2009 10:30:51] <rmatte> hopefully that's only temporary
[05-May-2009 10:36:21] <rmatte> the guys working in our ticketing system were like "ok, why do we suddenly have 75 tickets in the stack?"
[05-May-2009 10:42:48] <rmatte> ok, so now I have a process count graph for processes, but no CPU or Memory graphs, guess they'll just take some time to generate
[05-May-2009 10:45:29] <rmatte> ah ok, they are showing up for some processes
[05-May-2009 10:46:31] <rmatte> well, those were my Zenoss issues for the day, all solved
[05-May-2009 10:46:33] <rmatte> thanks Chet
[05-May-2009 10:47:18] <rmatte> Hey Matt, what's the official time of release for 2.4?
[05-May-2009 10:47:22] <mrayzenoss> today
[05-May-2009 10:47:24] <mrayzenoss> heh
[05-May-2009 10:47:31] <rmatte> yeh, but at noon, or what?
[05-May-2009 10:47:40] <rmatte> I still see 2.3.3 listed on the site
[05-May-2009 10:48:34] <mrayzenoss> we're doing a release check of everything right now
[05-May-2009 10:48:48] <mrayzenoss> everything uploaded, new docs, checking URLs
[05-May-2009 10:49:46] <mrayzenoss> and I'm doing the Getting Started with Zenoss webinar right now
[05-May-2009 10:49:58] <rmatte> nice
[05-May-2009 10:50:15] <jb> wheres that?
[05-May-2009 10:50:16] <rmatte> those weminars are fairly basic right?
[05-May-2009 10:50:26] <rmatte> like, I probably wouldn't get much out of it?
[05-May-2009 10:50:36] <jb> dountful
[05-May-2009 10:50:40] <jb> doubtful
[05-May-2009 10:50:50] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we basically walk through the installation and Getting Started with Zenoss Guides
[05-May-2009 10:51:07] <rmatte> is there any kind of more advanced weminar explaining creation of collector plugins, or stuff like that?
[05-May-2009 10:51:27] <rmatte> even if I had to pay for it lol
[05-May-2009 10:51:28] <mrayzenoss> not yet, we just started doing them
[05-May-2009 10:51:35] <rmatte> ah ok
[05-May-2009 10:51:41] <rmatte> would be cool though
[05-May-2009 10:51:51] <mrayzenoss> but that would be a good idea. I bet there would be interest
[05-May-2009 10:52:08] <rmatte> yeh, instead of a quick weminar you could basically offer remote training courses
[05-May-2009 10:52:28] <rmatte> a couple hours a day for a week or whatever
[05-May-2009 10:52:53] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we have video conferencing equipment, we could probably pull that off
[05-May-2009 10:53:01] <rmatte> cool
[05-May-2009 10:53:24] <mrayzenoss> we've got a linkup between Austin & Annapolis, and the remote devs can login as well. Seems like it should work for training
[05-May-2009 10:53:54] <rmatte> for sure
[05-May-2009 10:54:30] <rmatte> what do you guys actually use for the webinars?
[05-May-2009 10:54:42] <rmatte> something like WebEX I'd assume?
[05-May-2009 10:55:10] <mrayzenoss> http://forms.zenoss.com/weekly-demo
[05-May-2009 10:55:13] <mrayzenoss> it's a webex
[05-May-2009 10:55:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss Weekly Demo (at forms.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 10:55:27] <rmatte> ah ok, I'd need to view it on a windows box then
[05-May-2009 10:55:30] <rmatte> hehe
[05-May-2009 10:56:03] <mrayzenoss> I think it works with Linux, I seem to remember using it before (I'm currently on OSX)
[05-May-2009 10:56:35] <rmatte> hmmm, I've had no luck with using Webex in Linux, but I'll give it a go to see..
[05-May-2009 10:57:21] <rmatte> ah, too late to get in to today's
[05-May-2009 10:57:30] <rmatte> unless you actually send me a direct link hehe
[05-May-2009 11:00:04] <mrayzenoss> just register and it should send you the link
[05-May-2009 11:00:14] <rmatte> it only offers the webinar for tomorrow
[05-May-2009 11:00:21] <mrayzenoss> tomorrow?
[05-May-2009 11:00:26] <mrayzenoss> http://forms.zenoss.com/getting-started
[05-May-2009 11:00:29] <mrayzenoss> try that
[05-May-2009 11:00:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Getting Started with Zenoss (at forms.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 11:00:44] <rmatte> ah, probably because it was the weekly-demo link you sent me before
[05-May-2009 11:00:50] <mrayzenoss> oops
[05-May-2009 11:03:51] <rmatte> ah, your webex is way better than what we were using
[05-May-2009 11:03:56] <rmatte> since it seems to work in any browser
[05-May-2009 11:05:43] <rmatte> hmmm
[05-May-2009 11:05:55] <rmatte> where is this elusive request button for a dial in number...
[05-May-2009 11:06:42] <rmatte> ah found it
[05-May-2009 11:33:52] <perr0> mrayzenoss: are you taking questions for the webez?
[05-May-2009 11:33:55] <perr0> x
[05-May-2009 11:34:09] <rmatte> he's taking QA in the webex session itself
[05-May-2009 11:34:21] <rmatte> join the session and click on the Q&A tab
[05-May-2009 11:34:28] <perr0> ahh, thanks
[05-May-2009 11:34:30] <mrayzenoss> perr0: yeah
[05-May-2009 11:34:32] <rmatte> np
[05-May-2009 11:35:15] <rmatte> oh Matt, if you want to bedazzle them with a zenoss map you can have Chet show them: http://dmon.org/graphics/zenoss.png
[05-May-2009 11:35:22] <rmatte>
[05-May-2009 11:35:28] <rmatte> (google map)
[05-May-2009 11:35:40] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: email me that, I'll throw it up on our Flickr
[05-May-2009 11:35:56] <rmatte> will do
[05-May-2009 11:38:41] <perr0> rmatte: nice
[05-May-2009 12:52:22] <rmatte> the webinar was nice, I really didn't get anything out of it, but nice to see the sort of setup you guys have
[05-May-2009 12:55:47] <mrayzenoss> thanks
[05-May-2009 13:25:09] <rmatte> ok, this is ridiculous
[05-May-2009 13:25:19] <rmatte> we're getting flooded with process monitor failures all of a sudden
[05-May-2009 13:27:32] <MACscr1> So how can I setup a dynamic value for memAvailSwap? I don't want to hardcode the amounts
[05-May-2009 13:33:15] <rmatte> what would cause us to get floods of OS Process tickets?
[05-May-2009 13:33:18] <rmatte> erm, events
[05-May-2009 13:33:19] <rmatte> rather
[05-May-2009 13:33:31] <rmatte> is there any setting I can tune?
[05-May-2009 13:35:32] <rmatte> I'm going to be sitting here moving these to history constantly all night if I can't figure this out
[05-May-2009 13:37:38] <rmatte> getting tons of "Process not running" alerts
[05-May-2009 13:40:38] <rmatte> anyone?
[05-May-2009 13:45:46] <caseyh2007> Hows it going everyone?
[05-May-2009 13:46:58] <caseyh2007> I have an issue that i can't seem to solve. Just installed Zenoss Core 2.3.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 and when I run 'zenoss start' zopectl keeps dying.
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> zopectl> debug -v
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> Starting debugger (the name "app" is bound to the top-level Zope object)
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> 2009-05-05 11:44:32 WARNING OFS.Application Duplicate Product name
[05-May-2009 13:47:15] <caseyh2007> After loading Product 'Five' from '/usr/local/zenoss/Products',
[05-May-2009 13:47:16] <caseyh2007> I skipped the one in '/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[05-May-2009 13:47:18] <caseyh2007> 2009-05-05 11:44:34 ERROR Zope Couldn't install ZenWidgets
[05-May-2009 13:47:20] <caseyh2007> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05-May-2009 13:47:22] <caseyh2007> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 773, in install_product
[05-May-2009 13:47:24] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/__init__.py", line 47, in initialize
[05-May-2009 13:47:26] <caseyh2007> update_portlets(registrar._ProductContext__app)
[05-May-2009 13:47:28] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/__init__.py", line 38, in update_portlets
[05-May-2009 13:47:30] <caseyh2007> app.zport.ZenPortletManager.update_source()
[05-May-2009 13:47:32] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/PortletManager.py", line 91, in update_source
[05-May-2009 13:47:34] <caseyh2007> portlet._read_source()
[05-May-2009 13:47:36] <caseyh2007> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenWidgets/Portlet.py", line 76, in _read_source
[05-May-2009 13:47:38] <caseyh2007> raise PortletSourceNotFound, e
[05-May-2009 13:47:40] <caseyh2007> PortletSourceNotFound: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js'
[05-May-2009 13:48:59] <rmatte> do you have Linux emulation enabled?
[05-May-2009 13:49:22] <caseyh2007> no
[05-May-2009 13:50:20] <rmatte> ok, and now I just have endless heartbeat failures
[05-May-2009 13:50:40] <rmatte> you should have Linux emulation whatever it's called compiled in to your FreeBSD kernel
[05-May-2009 13:50:52] <rmatte> Zenoss is not natively compatible with FreeBSD
[05-May-2009 13:51:11] <rmatte> not yet anyways
[05-May-2009 13:51:16] <caseyh2007> is that new to zenoss 2.3.3? I have never had to do that before to run zenoss 2.2.x
[05-May-2009 13:51:29] <caseyh2007> they have a source release for FreeBSD
[05-May-2009 13:51:47] <rmatte> did you compile 2.3.3 from source?
[05-May-2009 13:52:04] <caseyh2007> they have an installer script that compiles it
[05-May-2009 13:53:26] <rmatte> ok, these process alerts flooding in are absolutely killing me
[05-May-2009 13:53:31] <rmatte> ah
[05-May-2009 13:54:04] <rmatte> that product 'Five' thing has nothing to do with it
[05-May-2009 13:54:12] <rmatte> but it couldn't load ZenWidgets for some reason
[05-May-2009 13:54:45] <rmatte> I'd say you're missing the file: 'Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js'
[05-May-2009 13:54:51] <rmatte> for whatever reason
[05-May-2009 13:55:21] <caseyh2007> I checked, its there, my guess is that it is not in /usr/local/zenoss when it is looking for the file at that location
[05-May-2009 13:55:29] <rmatte> ok, wait
[05-May-2009 13:55:38] <rmatte> what user are you trying to run it as?
[05-May-2009 13:55:39] <caseyh2007> ...
[05-May-2009 13:55:44] <caseyh2007> zenoss
[05-May-2009 13:55:59] <rmatte> if you do echo "$ZENHOME" what do you see?
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> that could be an issue lol,
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> %echo $ZENHOME
[05-May-2009 13:57:01] <caseyh2007> ZENHOME: Undefined variable.
[05-May-2009 13:57:10] <rmatte> there's your problem
[05-May-2009 13:57:20] <rmatte> your environment variables aren't set right
[05-May-2009 13:57:37] <rmatte> the script tries to go to: $ZENHOME/Products/ZenWidgets/ZenossPortlets/DeviceIssuesPortlet.js
[05-May-2009 13:57:47] <rmatte> so if it doesn't know what $ZENHOME is it doesn't work
[05-May-2009 13:57:58] <caseyh2007> right
[05-May-2009 14:04:48] <caseyh2007> still giving me the same error
[05-May-2009 14:06:31] <rmatte> you sure it's the exact same error?
[05-May-2009 14:06:39] <rmatte> even after you set that variable?
[05-May-2009 14:07:23] <caseyh2007> yeah, exact same one
[05-May-2009 14:08:24] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m247cb385
[05-May-2009 14:08:35] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[05-May-2009 14:08:38] <rmatte> those are all the environment variables for the zenoss account on one of my boxes
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[05-May-2009 14:23:53] <MACscr1> What did you guys do to resolve the swap value issues? You didn't actually hard code it per server did ya?
[05-May-2009 14:26:15] <chudler> MACscr1: zenoss hard-codes it in the threshold for some reason.
[05-May-2009 14:26:24] <caseyh2007> ok, I have no clue what is going on now, now im not getting an error anymore but zopectl still keeps dying
[05-May-2009 14:26:39] <MACscr1> chudler: no way around that? seems dumb as hell
[05-May-2009 14:26:43] <chudler> I was experimenting with a transform, but I stopped and haven't had time to return.
[05-May-2009 14:26:50] <MACscr1> grr
[05-May-2009 14:26:59] <chudler> here is sort of what it looked like (on /perf/memory event):
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> match = re.search('threshold of low swap [^:]+: current value ([\d\.]+)', evt.message)
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> if match:
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> avail = float(match.groups()[0]) * 1024
[05-May-2009 14:27:21] <chudler> total = device.os.totalSwap
[05-May-2009 14:27:43] <chudler> then you could take total and avail and find the percent.
[05-May-2009 14:31:40] <chudler> Alternatives would be a custom datapoint that does something like "python:1 - (here.os.totalSwap / here.os.swapAvail) * 100", then put that in a threshold.
[05-May-2009 14:32:22] <chudler> I made up the part about here.os.swapAvail, but it is available somewhere in ZenModel (cannot be bothered to look right now). Putting that in a threshold, however, will KILL a distributed collector setup, BTW.
[05-May-2009 14:34:18] <MACscr1> im still confused on why they poorly designed that particular segment. Its like they weren't even thinking
[05-May-2009 14:40:40] <caseyh2007> Ok, got zope running, by default it listens on all devices and I have tomcat running on port 8080 in a jail and that is why zope would not start. Just had to tell zope to only listen to one IP, thanks rmatte for your help
[05-May-2009 15:05:09] <rmatte> ok, so I've figured out that Zenoss can monitor some OS processes fine, but there are some that it's not monitoring correctly
[05-May-2009 15:05:12] <rmatte> it's always the same process
[05-May-2009 15:05:17] <rmatte> processes*
[05-May-2009 15:05:20] <rmatte> across all devices
[05-May-2009 15:05:23] <rmatte> any thoughts?
[05-May-2009 15:05:33] <jb> hm
[05-May-2009 15:05:37] <jb> my process monitoring tends to work well
[05-May-2009 15:05:44] <jb> except for on one box which has flaky snmp
[05-May-2009 15:05:58] <rmatte> yeh, this doesn't appear to be due to flaky SNMP
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 76 devices and 300 processes
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:16] <jb> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:22] <rmatte> are there timeout settings somewhere that I can tweak?
[05-May-2009 15:06:30] <rmatte> I have about half that amount of processes monitored
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Pulled process status for 47 devices and 146 processes
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:Daemon zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:06:49] <rmatte> INFO:zen.zenprocess:zenprocess shutting down
[05-May-2009 15:07:06] <jb> dont see a timeout value in zenprocess.conf
[05-May-2009 15:07:12] <rmatte> but I get a lot of Process not running messages
[05-May-2009 15:07:19] <rmatte> even though I know the process is running on the server
[05-May-2009 15:07:42] <rmatte> there's a Process timeout in the collector options I think
[05-May-2009 15:07:54] <rmatte> not sure if it's related
[05-May-2009 15:22:51] <rmatte> hmmm, I should try remodelling...
[05-May-2009 15:33:10] <rmatte> yup that did it
[05-May-2009 15:34:49] <rmatte> now to remodel every server...
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[05-May-2009 17:01:48] <xulfer> I'm having some issues with multi-graph reports. I'm trying to create one displaying interface throughput on several devices. I have a collection, a graph definition pointing at ifInOctets/ifOutOctets, and a graph group. When I go to the report page I see graph boxes, but they're empty, or have question marks inside them.
[05-May-2009 17:02:01] <xulfer> Anyone have any ideas?
[05-May-2009 17:09:29] <MACscr1> howdy ZenRuss
[05-May-2009 17:15:34] <syntaxcollector> howdy room
[05-May-2009 17:15:44] <syntaxcollector> I'm trying to follow the instructions here: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-email-delivery-and-receipt/
[05-May-2009 17:15:50] <syntaxcollector> to create an email test circuit
[05-May-2009 17:15:55] <adytum-bot> Title: Monitoring Email Delivery and Receipt - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2009 17:16:31] <syntaxcollector> my command succeeds when "tested" however fails when run automatically by zenoss
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[05-May-2009 17:17:06] <syntaxcollector> it says that the command timed out, I've tried increasing, zCommandCommandTimeout but had no effect
[05-May-2009 17:17:09] <syntaxcollector> any ideas?
[05-May-2009 17:31:03] <rmatte> come back a bit earlier tomorrow or something and more people will actually be around, I'd try and help you out but I'm right in the middle of something
[05-May-2009 17:31:29] <rmatte> about 6 hours ago is the time you should aim for
[05-May-2009 19:46:37] <rmatte> woohoo, finally got zenoss monitoring all process info including CPU, Memory, and process count properly
[05-May-2009 19:51:48] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: greetings, how did you do that?
[05-May-2009 19:52:49] <rmatte> oh, I had to add the processes then remodel the devices
[05-May-2009 19:53:09] <rmatte> I missed the remodelling part initially so I was getting tons of false "Process not running" messages
[05-May-2009 19:53:31] <rmatte> also, initially the index was screwed up in zope for the processes
[05-May-2009 19:53:43] <rmatte> so I had to go in to zendmd and do reindex() and commit()
[05-May-2009 19:54:20] <rmatte> after doing that everything is peachy
[05-May-2009 19:55:02] <sergeymasushko> hm... when I add a process zenoss starts monitor it without restart.
[05-May-2009 19:55:14] <rmatte> sorts of depends on the process
[05-May-2009 19:55:22] <rmatte> it was monitoring some processes fine right after we added them
[05-May-2009 19:55:26] <rmatte> other required a remodel
[05-May-2009 19:55:29] <rmatte> others*
[05-May-2009 19:55:47] <sergeymasushko> thanks. will keep it in mind
[05-May-2009 19:55:51] <rmatte> np
[05-May-2009 19:56:39] <rmatte> also, if it seems like it's monitoring less processes than it should (like, for me when I did "zenprocess run" from the commandline it finished by telling me it had found info for 42 processes, when we are actually monitoring over 150
[05-May-2009 19:56:48] <rmatte> so I had to go in to zendmd and do:
[05-May-2009 19:56:52] <rmatte> reindex()
[05-May-2009 19:56:54] <rmatte> commit()
[05-May-2009 19:57:11] <rmatte> then I ran "zenprocess run" again and it picked everything up that time
[05-May-2009 19:57:27] <rmatte> but then we started getting flooded with events, so I remodelled the devices that were flooding us and now everything is good
[05-May-2009 19:58:02] <sergeymasushko> that is useful information. do you know when the production release of blue crab will be available?
[05-May-2009 19:58:56] <rmatte> core of blue crab was supposed to be released today
[05-May-2009 19:59:05] <rmatte> but they might have postponed it to tomorrow for whatever reason
[05-May-2009 19:59:15] <sergeymasushko> cool.
[05-May-2009 19:59:44] <sergeymasushko> I have some annoying bug that should be fixed in this release.
[05-May-2009 19:59:56] <rmatte> which bug?
[05-May-2009 20:02:25] <sergeymasushko> sometimes zenoss creates events with the same evid. zenoss can not delete these events itself and says: bla-bla-bla duplication error... so need to delete them manually from the DB.
[05-May-2009 20:02:52] <sergeymasushko> it's regard only FreeBSD installation.
[05-May-2009 20:03:39] <rmatte> weird
[05-May-2009 20:03:46] <rmatte> never heard of that before
[05-May-2009 20:04:06] <rmatte> a source build on FreeBSD isn't really something that they test regularly at the moment
[05-May-2009 20:04:12] <rmatte> so it's bound to be a bit quirky
[05-May-2009 20:12:42] <sergeymasushko> there was a ticket http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4202
[05-May-2009 20:13:24] <rmatte> FreeBSD specific, fixed in Blue Crab.
[05-May-2009 20:13:34] <rmatte> well, blue crab should be out by tomorrow hopefully
[05-May-2009 20:16:41] <sergeymasushko> btw... I'm waiting for solution on this TT http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4579
[05-May-2009 20:17:12] <sergeymasushko> that's more important for me...
[05-May-2009 20:17:33] <rmatte> that's one of the most requested features for King Crab
[05-May-2009 20:17:43] <rmatte> so I'm hoping we'll be seeing it
[05-May-2009 20:18:08] <sergeymasushko> yeah.. will see
[05-May-2009 20:18:20] <rmatte> tons of transforms get messy after a while
[05-May-2009 20:19:04] <sergeymasushko> sure... it's too hard keep it up to date and manage it.
[05-May-2009 20:19:12] <rmatte> yeh, exactly
[05-May-2009 20:19:18] <rmatte> the template system needs revamping too
[05-May-2009 20:19:27] <rmatte> can be very tedious to manage
[05-May-2009 20:19:42] <rmatte> when you create a local template you should be able to have it inherit certain values from parent templates
[05-May-2009 20:20:04] <rmatte> like, I had to create a ton of different templates for monitoring different numbers of CPUs, in many different OID configurations
[05-May-2009 20:20:22] <rmatte> but when I want to change CPU thresholds I have to go and find every single local template and update it by hand
[05-May-2009 20:20:37] <rmatte> where as, if it inherited values from a parent template it'd be perfect
[05-May-2009 20:20:46] <rmatte> could update it all in one spot and save boatloads of time
[05-May-2009 20:21:33] <rmatte> same with interface templates and such
[05-May-2009 20:22:55] <sergeymasushko> sure, it would be helpful too.
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[05-May-2009 23:38:31] <DrX> How do you fix Zenoss VM doesn't see the network (because the subnet of the VM is different from the Subnet of the local network?) although I can ping my local subnet hosts?
[05-May-2009 23:38:51] <DrX> And do you/how do you install management agents on Windows servers?
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[06-May-2009 09:01:17] <rmatte> ah, I see that 2.4 is finally released, sweet
[06-May-2009 09:10:26] <kimt> all, anybody tried the Bluecoat template with success ?
[06-May-2009 09:13:11] <kimt> I can't get the graphs to show up for the SG (it's working fine for the AV)
[06-May-2009 09:27:03] <rocket> morning matt
[06-May-2009 09:32:50] <mrayzenoss> morning
[06-May-2009 09:33:04] <mrayzenoss> 2.4 is going out right now
[06-May-2009 09:34:09] <rocket> mrayzenoss: sweet ..
[06-May-2009 09:40:09] <jb> hm
[06-May-2009 09:40:22] <jb> this advanced device details zenpack looks really cool
[06-May-2009 09:45:48] <jb> i'd like to implement this stuff for my dell farms
[06-May-2009 09:46:29] <rocket> jb I will have much the same for the aix stuff .. though I am not leveraging that zenpack ..
[06-May-2009 09:46:39] <rocket> jb: since aix is just different enough .. :/
[06-May-2009 09:46:43] <jb> i havent even looked at the pack yet
[06-May-2009 09:46:44] <jb> yeah
[06-May-2009 09:46:59] <jb> the aix one would need to be custom
[06-May-2009 09:50:09] <rocket> now I am building the web interfaces for it .. and making sure the perf monitoring stuff still all works
[06-May-2009 09:51:05] <rmatte> If I wanted to generate a report on process CPU & Memory usage but not have a huge page of graphs, anyone know how I'd go about it?
[06-May-2009 09:51:14] <rmatte> like, I basically want a report that's like...
[06-May-2009 09:51:16] <rmatte> Device
[06-May-2009 09:51:24] <rmatte> process: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:28] <rmatte> process2: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:30] <rmatte> Device:
[06-May-2009 09:51:32] <rmatte> process: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:34] <rocket> jb: but this is showing up now
"os /rootvg /hd11admin /admin" [06-May-2009 09:51:35] <rmatte> process2: CPU, Memory
[06-May-2009 09:51:36] <rmatte> etc...
[06-May-2009 09:51:59] <rmatte> If I have to script it I'd be cool with that, just looking for a simple enough solution and wondering if anyone has done anything like this before
[06-May-2009 09:52:19] <rocket> rmatte: look at the dev guide on scripting reports .. and then post it as a zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:52:31] <chudler> I also made an (unreleased) "advanced details" zenpack for Sun ILOMS. It is strikingly similar to the HP one.
[06-May-2009 09:52:48] <jb> chudler: was it much work?
[06-May-2009 09:52:48] <mrayzenoss> BTW, brand-new version of the Dev Guide for 2.4
[06-May-2009 09:52:50] <rmatte> alright, I haven't really done much in terms of scripting reports, should be interesting
[06-May-2009 09:53:03] <rmatte> and if I do get anything working I'll definitely release it as a zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:53:04] <chudler> jb: yes, about a solid week or so
[06-May-2009 09:53:15] <mrayzenoss> actually, all the guides got revamped and we added the new Extended Monitoring Guide
[06-May-2009 09:53:18] <rmatte> I've got a few things I want to release as zenpacks eventually
[06-May-2009 09:53:50] <jb> i have one I need to release as well
[06-May-2009 09:54:03] <jb> just having a few problems trying to package it
[06-May-2009 09:54:10] <mrayzenoss> we're gonna be starting up another ZenPack contest in the next week or so
[06-May-2009 09:54:51] <rmatte> one zenpack which I'm about half way through developing is a zenpack for SNMP monitoring on Windows servers for monitoring without having to use SNMP Informant
[06-May-2009 09:55:27] <rmatte> So far I have a script that hunts down the correct memory OID for each server and collects the data, calculates percent in use, then feeds the values to Zenoss
[06-May-2009 09:55:33] <jb> i need to rebuild my windows WMI templates
[06-May-2009 09:55:47] <jb> im currently using an old zenpack named "WMIPerformanceMonitor" that pulls stats via WMI with a perl script
[06-May-2009 09:56:00] <jb> i need to convert them all to winperfmon
[06-May-2009 09:56:13] <rmatte> yeh, that WMIPerformanceMonitor is annoying because when a command fails it spits out the username and password
[06-May-2009 09:56:23] <jb> i nkow.. but the graphs are nice
[06-May-2009 09:56:25] <rmatte> I modified it not to do that, but my modification is flawed, another thing I need to fix
[06-May-2009 09:56:25] <jb> :/
[06-May-2009 09:56:41] <jb> you don't get any of those graphs out of the box
[06-May-2009 09:56:43] <jb> with winperf
[06-May-2009 09:56:48] <jb> (in enterprise)
[06-May-2009 09:57:14] <rmatte> really?
[06-May-2009 09:57:18] <rocket> gotta run to a meeting .. bbiab
[06-May-2009 09:57:22] <rmatte> I thought you'd at least get CPU, memory, and paging
[06-May-2009 09:57:22] <jb> metting here too
[06-May-2009 09:57:26] <jb> yeah you do
[06-May-2009 09:57:33] <jb> but not io/disk queue/etc
[06-May-2009 09:57:38] <jb> and the CPU graph isn't as detailed
[06-May-2009 09:57:58] <jb> i just need to take the time and covert them all
[06-May-2009 09:59:08] <jb> im definetely going to take a look at this HP Proliant zenpack
[06-May-2009 09:59:11] <jb> and try to make one similar for dell
[06-May-2009 10:00:06] <chudler> jb: I am also writing one for Dell, but it will take me some time (weeks) to complete.
[06-May-2009 10:00:16] <chudler> Also, I only have a few dells to test with at the moment.
[06-May-2009 10:24:08] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: The upgrade instructions didn't get any better with this version.
[06-May-2009 10:24:24] <mrayzenoss> which part?
[06-May-2009 10:24:47] <gemineye> Page 22, Upgrading the bin Stack Installer
[06-May-2009 10:26:16] <mrayzenoss> what's missing?
[06-May-2009 10:26:34] <gemineye> I'm looking for the notes you sent me when I upgraded to 2.3.3
[06-May-2009 10:27:05] <rmatte> I found that the upgrade directions for the stack installer were fine
[06-May-2009 10:27:16] <rmatte> Unless you're anti-technical
[06-May-2009 10:27:17] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: were you going stack to stack?
[06-May-2009 10:27:25] <gemineye> yes, stack to stack
[06-May-2009 10:28:07] <mrayzenoss> I'm sorry I don't remember what the issue was that we worked around for you 2.3.3 upgrade... is it possible that we fixed it in the installer? There are a bunch of fixes
[06-May-2009 10:30:00] <rmatte> I saw the list of fixes for 2.4, pretty good
[06-May-2009 10:30:14] <rmatte> I like all the backend fixes
[06-May-2009 10:30:22] <mrayzenoss> yeah, those will keep coming
[06-May-2009 10:30:30] <mrayzenoss> unfortunately we hit a blocker yesterday and had to release note it
[06-May-2009 10:30:31] <rmatte> no doubt
[06-May-2009 10:30:39] <rmatte> a blocker?
[06-May-2009 10:30:41] <mrayzenoss> so we're revving 2.4.1
[06-May-2009 10:30:54] <mrayzenoss> it's in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:31:11] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4949
[06-May-2009 10:31:23] <rmatte> I read through them, I assume it's that error mentioned, something about removing a windows device and having it stop monitoring all devices except the removed ones?
[06-May-2009 10:31:28] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[06-May-2009 10:31:31] <rmatte> ah
[06-May-2009 10:31:38] <mrayzenoss> we're putting together a 2.4.1 now
[06-May-2009 10:31:41] <rmatte> yeh, that's actually pretty brutal, is that a common occurance?
[06-May-2009 10:31:44] <mrayzenoss> no
[06-May-2009 10:31:52] <gemineye> ohh, that's a bad one
[06-May-2009 10:31:59] <rmatte> I'll wait for 2.4.1 then
[06-May-2009 10:32:05] <rmatte> any estimate on release date?
[06-May-2009 10:32:09] <mrayzenoss> next week
[06-May-2009 10:32:12] <rmatte> nice
[06-May-2009 10:32:18] <gemineye> Will there be a patch in the mean time or should we just wait till next week?
[06-May-2009 10:32:20] <mrayzenoss> we're generating artifacts for it now
[06-May-2009 10:32:23] <aclark> mrayzenoss: hi! did you catch my tweet re: zenoss install via zc.buildout?
[06-May-2009 10:32:24] <mrayzenoss> the patch is in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:32:39] <mrayzenoss> aclark: yeah, I started an internal email thread about it
[06-May-2009 10:32:57] <rmatte> there's already a patch listed I believe
[06-May-2009 10:33:00] <mrayzenoss> Ian is working on a Zope 2.11 sandbox right now and is working with a buildout
[06-May-2009 10:33:02] <rmatte> in the release notes
[06-May-2009 10:33:23] <mrayzenoss> aclark: we're looking at dropping the Make build and switching to a buildout
[06-May-2009 10:33:31] <rmatte> and Matt just mentioned that and I missed it because I've had little sleep and too much coffee
[06-May-2009 10:33:51] <rmatte> and I have to go lend a hand dismantling cubicles shortly, yay
[06-May-2009 10:37:05] <aclark> mrayzenoss: very cool, is any of that public yet? i've got a buildout that does mysql, rrdtool, and Zope and i can start Zope w/the zenoss products from svn… but I'm stuck on "the rest" which i think at this point means digging through install.sh to see what additional setup is done…
[06-May-2009 10:37:16] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: if there's something that is inconsistent or wrong, let us know. We'll refresh the docs independent of releases
[06-May-2009 10:37:27] <mrayzenoss> let me check with Ian
[06-May-2009 10:37:29] <aclark> mrayzenoss: i can create a zport, for example, but not much else ;-)
[06-May-2009 10:37:34] <gemineye> I'm still looking for the darn notes you gave me
[06-May-2009 10:38:59] <aclark> mrayzenoss: or maybe a doc that describes what's done in the install.sh you could point me at? haven't found anything poking around. i know it's basically populate mysql db and create some zope objs…
[06-May-2009 10:39:17] <mrayzenoss> __ian__ can probably explain more than me
[06-May-2009 10:39:19] <__ian__> aclark: No such doc exists.
[06-May-2009 10:39:39] <aclark> __ian__: ok then the shell scripts themselves will have to do I guess :-)
[06-May-2009 10:39:53] <__ian__> There's a single command, however, that does a bunch
[06-May-2009 10:41:15] <__ian__> That is, the post-install steps. That's all in build-functions.sh, in the configure function
[06-May-2009 10:41:27] <__ian__> still means poring over code, though.
[06-May-2009 10:43:09] <__ian__> You can also look at inst/zenwipe.sh, which is a reset script
[06-May-2009 10:43:28] <__ian__> that does a bunch of the same stuff, but isn't broken up into separate functions.
[06-May-2009 10:43:50] <aclark> __ian__: ah i see thanks, so create the mysql db and import events, create zope and zeo, start zeo, create zope objs and start zope then get happy
[06-May-2009 10:44:07] <__ian__> right.
[06-May-2009 10:44:26] <rmatte> does anyone know what the name of the image is for the top bar in Zenoss?
[06-May-2009 10:44:46] <rmatte> I just want to grab it and swap out the Zenoss logo for ours since clients will be logging in to it
[06-May-2009 10:45:26] <__ian__> if you just want the logo, it's logo.png I believe. You can do it in the ZMI.
[06-May-2009 10:45:44] <__ian__> but otherwise I believe it lives in ZenModel/skins/zenmodel
[06-May-2009 10:46:00] <rmatte> it won't allow me to save the image in ZMI
[06-May-2009 10:47:53] <rmatte> logo.gif apparently
[06-May-2009 10:48:06] <__ian__> Whoa, what version?
[06-May-2009 10:48:08] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I found the notes and emailed you the chat session. Now I have to go interview someone.
[06-May-2009 10:48:29] <aclark> __ian__, mrayzenoss thanks I'm going to take a stab at that, and may blog about the results (http://aclark.net) in case you are interested
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[06-May-2009 10:48:43] <adytum-bot> Title: ACLARK.NET, LLC (at aclark.net)
[06-May-2009 10:48:59] <aclark> nice bot :-)
[06-May-2009 10:49:16] <__ian__> aclark: Totally interested, as I've gotten about halfway there myself. We've briefly raised the possibility of switching to buildout, though I dunno how much traction that'll get. I personally am all over it.
[06-May-2009 10:50:13] <aclark> __ian__: cool! i hope to provide some impetus
[06-May-2009 10:55:02] <aclark> w00t congrats on 2.4 btw
[06-May-2009 10:55:21] <rocket> mrayzenoss: where are the release notes?
[06-May-2009 10:55:50] <rocket> mrayzenoss: getting a page does not exist warning for this url
[06-May-2009 10:55:55] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Zenoss_Release_Notes_Version_2.4.0.pdf
[06-May-2009 10:57:50] <jb> chudler: im also going to look at writing one for dell..
[06-May-2009 12:22:28] <hector__> hmmmm
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[06-May-2009 12:31:13] <xulfer> I'm having some issues with multi-graph reports. I'm trying to create one displaying interface throughput on several devices. I have a collection, a graph definition pointing at ifInOctets/ifOutOctets, and a graph group. When I go to the report page I see graph boxes, but they're empty, or have question marks inside them.
[06-May-2009 12:31:18] <xulfer> Anyone have any ideas?
[06-May-2009 12:31:27] <mrayzenoss> rocket: thanks for the catch, fixed
[06-May-2009 12:33:02] <mrayzenoss> aclark: added to my huge list of RSS feeds
[06-May-2009 12:33:24] <aclark> mrayzenoss: cool!
[06-May-2009 12:34:07] <cluther> xulfer: Use "ifInOctets_ifInOctets" as the name if the data point.
[06-May-2009 12:34:15] <rocket> mrayzenoss: still not working here ..
[06-May-2009 12:34:16] <cluther> xulfer: dataSource_dataPoint
[06-May-2009 12:34:26] <mrayzenoss> rocket: now try
[06-May-2009 12:34:52] <rocket> cluther: hey bud ..
[06-May-2009 12:34:56] <rocket> mrayzenoss: nope
[06-May-2009 12:35:20] <xulfer> Ah, let me try that
[06-May-2009 12:35:52] <mrayzenoss> rocket: which page are you looking at? I updated the blog post and the docs page
[06-May-2009 12:36:15] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[06-May-2009 12:36:25] <rocket> clicking 2.4.0 release notes link
[06-May-2009 12:36:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 12:36:34] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Zenoss_Release_Notes_Version_2.4.0.pdf
[06-May-2009 12:36:46] <rocket> that page is missing "Our apologies..."
[06-May-2009 12:36:50] <mrayzenoss> rocket: reload the page
[06-May-2009 12:36:53] <mrayzenoss> we fixed the link
[06-May-2009 12:36:57] <mrayzenoss> not the destination
[06-May-2009 12:37:24] <rocket> ah I see .. it now works .. was reloading .. must have been cached in our proxy
[06-May-2009 12:38:09] <jb> hm i need to figure out how to handle my windows stuff
[06-May-2009 12:38:25] <jb> looks like the AD/Exchange stuff in 2.4 has been moved to /Devices/Server/Windows/WMI/..
[06-May-2009 12:38:43] <jb> i wonder if I upgrade my existing 2.3.3 to 2.4, if it will bind the templates to their existing locations, or move them to this new one?
[06-May-2009 12:38:55] <jmp242> mmm
[06-May-2009 12:42:08] <xulfer> cluther: I was already using those values it turns out.
[06-May-2009 12:43:41] <cluther> xulfer: Did you choose the specific interfaces in your collection, or devices?
[06-May-2009 12:43:59] <xulfer> No.
[06-May-2009 12:44:25] <xulfer> So would I have to individual pick each device, and each interface?
[06-May-2009 12:44:31] <xulfer> *individually
[06-May-2009 12:44:36] <cluther> To get components on a multi-graph report, yes.
[06-May-2009 12:44:40] <cluther> I'm afraid so.
[06-May-2009 12:44:52] <xulfer> Ah, so there's no way to group it then? They're all like devices.
[06-May-2009 12:44:55] <cluther> They're more geared towards device-level metrics.
[06-May-2009 12:45:03] <rocket> cluther: I am making good progress on my multidepth device development now
[06-May-2009 12:45:19] <xulfer> Hm, so I'm not really getting any advantage from multi-graph at all then
[06-May-2009 12:45:35] <cluther> xulfer: The only advantage would be that you can put all of the metrics on the same graph if you want.
[06-May-2009 12:45:43] <cluther> rocket: Cool.
[06-May-2009 12:46:02] <xulfer> Yeah, which is something I wanted to do for fun.
[06-May-2009 12:48:13] <rocket> cluther: I just have to make the page templates
[06-May-2009 12:48:36] <rocket> cluther: overall its pretty nifty ..
[06-May-2009 12:51:51] <xulfer> cluther: Thanks, that worked!
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> ERROR:zen.zenwinperf:Remote exception: exceptions.AttributeError: 'ZenPack' object has no attribute '__of__'Traceback (most recent call last):
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/PBDaemon.py", line 52, in inner
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> return callable(*args, **kw)
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/services/ThresholdMixin.py", line 22, in remote_getThresholdClasses
[06-May-2009 13:09:54] <jb> for pack in self.dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[06-May-2009 13:09:58] <jb> any idea what this is telilng me?
[06-May-2009 13:10:15] <jb> during a zenwinperf run of one device
[06-May-2009 13:10:22] <DrX> can Zenoss automatically email usage reports such as disk usage, top processes, and critical event logs events periodically?
[06-May-2009 13:10:37] <cluther> jb: There is a broken ZenPack. If you have installed/updated/removed any zenpacks you should restart Zenoss.
[06-May-2009 13:10:50] <jb> ah ok.. yeah, im updating the Device_WMI template
[06-May-2009 13:10:52] <jb> to include more graphs
[06-May-2009 13:11:19] <jb> trying to get rid of this old "WMIPerformanceMonitor" pack
[06-May-2009 13:12:48] <jb> argh, ive broken something
[06-May-2009 13:13:17] <DrX> (how) do you install agents on Windows Servers?
[06-May-2009 13:13:24] <jb> there is no agent..
[06-May-2009 13:13:35] <jb> zenoss monitors windows servers via WMI or SNMP (or both)
[06-May-2009 13:14:10] <DrX> jb: then how do you monitor servers outside the Zenoss VM (e.g., the VMWare host and other network attached servers)?
[06-May-2009 13:14:30] <jb> via WMI and SNMP
[06-May-2009 13:14:33] <jb> over your IP network
[06-May-2009 13:14:57] <DrX> jb: how do I configure that?
[06-May-2009 13:15:04] <jb> have you read the docs?
[06-May-2009 13:15:12] <jb> you are asking rather basic questions
[06-May-2009 13:15:23] <DrX> jb: I don't see any docs...
[06-May-2009 13:15:29] <jb> where are you looking?
[06-May-2009 13:15:31] <DrX> jb: I downloaded the VM
[06-May-2009 13:15:37] <jb> surely not http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs
[06-May-2009 13:15:47] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 13:17:55] <jb> hm, I shouldn't have edited this zenpack.. should have created a new one with these new graphs.
[06-May-2009 13:19:43] <DrX> jb: I installed the VM (in NAT mode) which is on the 192.168.n.n network but my internal networkk is 172.16.n.n -- is that going to work?
[06-May-2009 13:20:20] <jb> DrX: i can't answer questions about your network.. if 192.168.0.0/16 can reach 172.16.0.0/16, then yeah, it will work..
[06-May-2009 13:21:03] <jb> cluther: think I should just reinstall the ZenWinPerf zenpack?
[06-May-2009 13:21:39] <rocket> jb: if you havent made too many changes to it I would
[06-May-2009 13:21:54] <rocket> jb: unless you can fix it easily first
[06-May-2009 13:22:00] <jb> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[06-May-2009 13:22:04] <jb> just a bunch of those
[06-May-2009 13:22:09] <jb> but i'm not sure what its referring to..
[06-May-2009 13:22:14] <DrX> jb:I mainly want to monitor the VMWAre host system from the Zenoss VMWare guest... will VMWare handle the router?
[06-May-2009 13:22:21] <DrX> router=routing
[06-May-2009 13:22:39] <jb> DrX: you can always test..
[06-May-2009 13:22:56] <jb> can you reach your vmhost from your vmguest?
[06-May-2009 13:23:01] <xulfer> Hm, is there any way I could customize the name/title of each graph in a multi-graph?
[06-May-2009 13:23:32] <DrX> jb: if you mean ping, yes
[06-May-2009 13:23:38] <jb> ok, so whats your question?
[06-May-2009 13:23:47] <jb> its working..
[06-May-2009 13:25:30] <DrX> jb: that was my question... just whether or not the VMWare host and other network peers to the host had to be on the same subnet or not as the guest
[06-May-2009 13:25:57] <jb> DrX: if you able to ping your guest, and vice versa, then yes, network connectivity is working.
[06-May-2009 13:28:28] <DrX> jb: I can ping the host from the VM guest, but I cannot ping the VM guest from the host.
[06-May-2009 13:28:57] <jb> i'm not sure what to tell you.. that is a vmware/network related problem
[06-May-2009 13:29:12] <DrX> jb: should I have used bridge mode instead of NAT mode?
[06-May-2009 13:29:28] <jb> try?
[06-May-2009 13:29:42] <jb> rocket: hrm, no way to cleanly uninstall/reinstall this one.
[06-May-2009 13:31:09] <mrayzenoss> DrX: bridged is probably what you want. The Zenoss VM will be part of your standard network
[06-May-2009 13:33:42] <erik123> hello?
[06-May-2009 13:34:11] <mrayzenoss> looking for someone?
[06-May-2009 13:34:11] <jb> hi
[06-May-2009 13:34:35] <erik123> i have a problem upgrading to zenoss 2.4
[06-May-2009 13:34:51] <erik123> according to the install document:
[06-May-2009 13:35:11] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I upgraded to 2.4 but for some reason the maps aren't displaying at an optimized zoom level. Is that something new?
[06-May-2009 13:35:13] <erik123> If upgrading from Version 2.3 to Version 2.4, run this command to upgrade your Zenoss instance:
[06-May-2009 13:35:27] <erik123> conary migrate --interactive --resolve \group-zenoss=/zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:devel//core-2.4
[06-May-2009 13:35:50] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I hope not
[06-May-2009 13:36:34] <erik123> however, i get an error saying group-zenoss not found on branch
[06-May-2009 13:39:24] <erik123> any ideas?
[06-May-2009 13:40:09] <erik123> 8.4. Upgrading the Zenoss Virtual Appliance Image
[06-May-2009 13:41:56] <mrayzenoss> erik123: if you post your findings on a thread, I'll have our build engineer look at it
[06-May-2009 13:42:06] <mrayzenoss> he's got some corrupted .bin installers to deal with right now
[06-May-2009 13:42:51] <erik123> ok thanks. i saw that thread with the mis-matching md5s
[06-May-2009 13:44:55] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I think I've recreated that
[06-May-2009 13:45:05] <mrayzenoss> single location on a map, zoomed completely in?
[06-May-2009 13:47:59] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: Yup, I'm having mapping problems. It seems to think my California office is in Spain, and it put one of our Canada offices in the middle of the ocean. Maps also aren't displaying correctly sometimes.
[06-May-2009 13:49:29] <mrayzenoss> can anyone else recreate this? we're looking at it internally
[06-May-2009 13:54:49] <gemineye> It's having a lot of trouble just displaying the maps and when I go to a location that has no sub locations, it displays at super zoom but never the correct address. Unless some of our offices are in Atlantis.
[06-May-2009 13:55:47] <mrayzenoss> we're recreating it
[06-May-2009 13:56:57] <gemineye> I noticed something else just now, I don't know if I'm losing it though. I have an event on a Windows server indicating a disk is over 90%, but when I go to the specific disk and look at it's event list, there is no event.
[06-May-2009 13:57:13] <gemineye> I have to go interview people again. bbl
[06-May-2009 14:23:28] <jb> what keeps certain devices from not inherting templates?
[06-May-2009 14:23:35] <jb> i have templates bound to /Devices/Server/Windows
[06-May-2009 14:23:43] <jb> but some devices in this device class aren't seeing the binds
[06-May-2009 14:23:58] <mrayzenoss> have you remodeled?
[06-May-2009 14:24:14] <jb> good point
[06-May-2009 14:24:28] <jb> no change with a remodel
[06-May-2009 14:27:50] <jb> hm
[06-May-2009 14:27:51] <jb> actually
[06-May-2009 14:30:41] <jmp242> I'm back wondering on the issue I've had with zFileSystemMapIgnoreNames in 2.3.3 and /afs/ ...
[06-May-2009 14:31:20] <jmp242> is there a way to see what Zenoss is getting for filesystem names when it models the device?
[06-May-2009 14:32:34] <jb> any detail in a zenmodeler run -v10?
[06-May-2009 14:33:52] <jmp242> would a zenmodeler run -v10 devicename limit it to just that device?
[06-May-2009 14:33:58] <jb> -d devicename
[06-May-2009 14:34:03] <jb> zenmodeler run -v10 -d devicename
[06-May-2009 14:35:11] <jmp242> nothing that I can see
[06-May-2009 14:35:49] <jmp242> doesn't seem to list filesystems it's found
[06-May-2009 14:36:12] <jmp242> all I can figure is something with the regex...
[06-May-2009 14:37:00] <jmp242> nevermind - typoed the devicename - looking again
[06-May-2009 14:40:33] <jmp242> mm - still doesn't seem to list what it's getting from the plugins, but maybe I can just look at the filesystem plugin
[06-May-2009 14:42:59] <jb> hmm
[06-May-2009 14:43:01] <jb> not sure :/
[06-May-2009 14:43:15] <jb> would you happen to know how to clear all RRD data for certain graphs?
[06-May-2009 14:43:30] <jmp242> yea, neither am I, The filesystem plugin doesn't seem to list OIDs like the Templates do
[06-May-2009 14:49:08] <jmp242> ehh, nevermind - either they fixed a bug or something - our mount point is only called /afs, so of course a regex of /afs/ will fail to match
[06-May-2009 14:49:25] <jmp242> more egg on my face - thanks for the help though
[06-May-2009 14:54:59] <jb> ah
[06-May-2009 14:55:01] <jb>
[06-May-2009 14:59:48] <gemineye> jb: did you get your question answered about templates not automatically binding to a device?
[06-May-2009 15:08:07] <gemineye> I've noticed that if I manually bound templates to a device, that device won't pick up new templates it should since the bound templates are now a custom config. I would have to reset the bindings and then add or remove any templates I wanted to change from the defaults.
[06-May-2009 15:08:26] <gemineye> Has it gotten real quiet in here or is my IRC hosed again?
[06-May-2009 15:11:00] <mrayzenoss> I hear you. I'm busy putting out 2.4 fires
[06-May-2009 15:11:05] <mrayzenoss> and he's gone
[06-May-2009 15:12:23] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: Besides the mapping issue, is there anything else weird about your 2.4 install? You did a stack install right?
[06-May-2009 15:13:32] <gemineye> Yeah, I had installed 2.3.3 a week earlier and did some preliminary config. I had only added 16 devices so not the whole implementation I had done on my other Zenoss server. I'm actually about to upgrade my main one to 2.4 since I can live with the mapping problem for now.
[06-May-2009 15:14:09] <gemineye> that's the only problem I've seen so far, are there any others I might want to think about before I roll 2.4 out to my main install?
[06-May-2009 15:14:48] <mrayzenoss> well, we're re-uploading the installers based on this thread: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9651
[06-May-2009 15:15:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - 2.4 Installation Failure -- Installation package corrupted (at forums.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 15:15:18] <gemineye> I didn't have that problem when I did the upgrade.
[06-May-2009 15:15:28] <mrayzenoss> well then, no problems
[06-May-2009 15:15:46] <mrayzenoss> so far there's the map one, which we're investigating but haven't opened a ticket for yet
[06-May-2009 15:15:52] <gemineye> I'm running it on Centos 5.3
[06-May-2009 15:15:59] <mrayzenoss> so RPM install?
[06-May-2009 15:17:35] <gemineye> But the stack install is fine right? I don't want to try it on my main system only to realize a condition exists there that might hose the box that didn't exist on my other system.
[06-May-2009 15:18:06] <mrayzenoss> the thread is about the stack installer
[06-May-2009 15:18:17] <mrayzenoss> for CentOS 5.3, I assumed you would use the RPM, but either would work
[06-May-2009 15:18:21] <gemineye> oh, ok. I guess I should wait
[06-May-2009 15:18:50] <gemineye> I got lucky with the first install, no sense in testing my luck twice, I'm not in Vegas anyways.
[06-May-2009 15:43:30] <mrayzenoss> download page is back up
[06-May-2009 16:07:18] <gemineye> Was there a change in the download file?
[06-May-2009 16:15:36] <mrayzenoss> I believe the .bin files were bad
[06-May-2009 16:29:03] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: you want to open a ticket for your map issue?
[06-May-2009 16:51:18] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I forgot how O:-)
[06-May-2009 16:52:00] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/wiki/HowToAddTicket
[06-May-2009 17:06:25] <kimt> Hi all, what is the best way to debug why graphs are not being produced (using the Bluecoat zenpack) ? Thanks in advance.
[06-May-2009 17:09:21] <gemineye> Did I hear Blue Coat? (It's Blue Coat, with a space) (Trust me, I know) <- sitting in IT department of Blue Coat
[06-May-2009 17:10:46] <gemineye> kimt: I'd like to answer your question but I actually haven't had a chance to look at the Blue Coat ZenPack that was made. I'm looking at seeing if I can get a Blue Coat branded ZenPack created and if that happens I'll know more about it.
[06-May-2009 17:11:33] <gemineye> kimt: are other zenpacks producing graphs? What are you seeing on the Blue Coat graphs? an error that the .rrd file doesn't exist or perhaps an nan message? or is the graph just not even there.
[06-May-2009 17:11:54] <kimt> Thanks mate I know it is spelled with a space, I am a SE
[06-May-2009 17:12:01] <kimt> are u at the Fairmount ?
[06-May-2009 17:12:08] <gemineye> in SF?
[06-May-2009 17:12:11] <kimt> yep
[06-May-2009 17:12:47] <gemineye> No, that's the sales conference. Some of my coworkers are there. I'm at headquarters keeping the lights on.
[06-May-2009 17:13:04] <gemineye> Are you in SF?
[06-May-2009 17:13:17] <kimt> but to answer your question, the AV template is working fine but the SG is not producing any perf at all
[06-May-2009 17:13:47] <kimt> yep I am in SF, nice to hear some body is keeping the business going
[06-May-2009 17:14:02] <gemineye> lemme look at one of my zenoss installs, I think I've got the zenpack bound to one of our SGs
[06-May-2009 17:14:28] <gemineye> Nope I don't... Lemme bind one.
[06-May-2009 17:14:56] <kimt> perfect, I am doing a presentation on friday, where I was hoping to be able to do a demo
[06-May-2009 17:15:14] <gemineye> A preso at the conference?
[06-May-2009 17:15:28] <kimt> se break-out on friday
[06-May-2009 17:15:40] <kimt> I used this template http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/bluecoat
[06-May-2009 17:15:50] <adytum-bot> Title: ZenPacks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2009 17:16:32] <gemineye> I didn't create it but I can certainly look and see if I find any problems right away. I don't know how old the zenpack is but it might need updating for the new SGOS's
[06-May-2009 17:18:13] <kimt> i tried to use zenoss 2.4 which did not work, then I downgraded to 2.2 since the author wrote that version was tested ok, but same result
[06-May-2009 17:19:25] <kimt> gemineye: thanks a lot for your help
[06-May-2009 17:20:32] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: Try doing a Ctrl-Shift-R to refresh the map
[06-May-2009 17:20:52] <mrayzenoss> or Cmd-Shift-R if you're in OSX
[06-May-2009 17:21:41] <gemineye> Firefox
[06-May-2009 17:21:56] <kimt> nope still nothing
[06-May-2009 17:22:25] <kimt> I also tried to connect to a 5.2 and a 5.4
[06-May-2009 17:23:01] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: what were the addresses like? we've got a google map fix already for things that start with numbers
[06-May-2009 17:27:02] <gemineye> They all start with numbers, the addresses have building numberse
[06-May-2009 17:27:16] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's the culprit
[06-May-2009 17:27:26] <gemineye> Is there a patch?
[06-May-2009 17:27:32] <mrayzenoss> very soon
[06-May-2009 17:27:36] <mrayzenoss> opening the ticket first
[06-May-2009 17:30:51] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4966
[06-May-2009 17:31:02] <mrayzenoss> fix has been reviewed, it's now proposed
[06-May-2009 17:31:13] <mrayzenoss> Ian's attaching a patch
[06-May-2009 17:35:54] <gemineye> So kimt, None of my graphs are working, it looks like bad OIDs
[06-May-2009 17:35:58] <kimt> gemineye: think I might found the error, since the template contains 3 fanspeed datasources and i am testing towards a sg200 without fans.... waiting to see if that solved it.. need to get back to work...
[06-May-2009 17:36:18] <kimt> will be back in a couple of hours.
[06-May-2009 17:36:54] <mrayzenoss> the guy who wrote it probably only tested with a single model, not a generic enough solution
[06-May-2009 17:39:18] <kimt> most likely, I did a snmpwalk on the oid's that are in the template and the rest is working so I hope that that did the trick
[06-May-2009 17:41:40] <gemineye> The Blue Coat Zenpack I have installed is all messed up.
[06-May-2009 17:42:16] <gemineye> The OIDs are all valid, but none of the graph points match the data sources
[06-May-2009 17:42:27] <bzed> mrayzenoss: btw just for your info - I've removed your wmi stuff from debian and ubuntu. It is not maintainable security wise as it still comes with an insanely old version of Samba4. Not to forget that it is a waste of mirror space to have samba4 twice in the archive...
[06-May-2009 17:42:57] <mrayzenoss> bzed: understood
[06-May-2009 17:43:17] <mrayzenoss> bzed: we're actually trying to move to Zope 2.11/Python 2.6 again
[06-May-2009 17:43:42] <mrayzenoss> so there may be hope for showing up in the distros eventually
[06-May-2009 17:44:40] <bzed> that sounds great
[06-May-2009 17:45:02] <bzed> if you've managed to do that, I'll work on the debian packages again
[06-May-2009 17:45:04] <mrayzenoss> I'll definitely look you up when we start making real progress
[06-May-2009 17:45:09] <mrayzenoss> thanks again
[06-May-2009 17:45:13] <bzed> you're welcome
[06-May-2009 17:45:45] <bzed> hope you understand that there's no way for us to include the old zope2.8 stuff
[06-May-2009 17:46:06] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, it's way too old
[06-May-2009 17:46:13] <mrayzenoss> we got rejected by everyone
[06-May-2009 17:46:21] <mrayzenoss> Fedora, FreeBSD, Debian and Ubuntu
[06-May-2009 17:53:28] <gemineye> Finally! kimt, I was able to confirm that the Blue Coat Zenpack does in fact work.
[06-May-2009 17:54:04] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4966 has the fix
[06-May-2009 17:54:19] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: zenpatch 13442
[06-May-2009 17:54:31] <gemineye> as root or zenoss
[06-May-2009 17:54:40] <mrayzenoss> zenoss
[06-May-2009 17:55:03] <mrayzenoss> here's the fix: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/13443
[06-May-2009 17:55:12] <gemineye> do I have to restart?
[06-May-2009 17:55:27] <mrayzenoss> good question.. I doubt it since it's javascript
[06-May-2009 17:55:47] <mrayzenoss> make sure you do a force-reload on the page
[06-May-2009 17:56:12] <gemineye> Um... problem
[06-May-2009 17:58:51] <gemineye> Ok, so I have one less problem, but one new problem, and the other problems are still there.
[06-May-2009 18:00:17] <gemineye> When I'm on the dashboard it is displaying at the best zoom now, but when I click on one of the locations to map it in the portlet, opens a whole new window in the portlet
[06-May-2009 18:02:41] <gemineye> Also when I go to a site under /Locations it doesn't always draw the map.
[06-May-2009 18:02:46] <gemineye> I'm off to a meeting.
[06-May-2009 18:05:38] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to recreate, but open a ticket if you get a chance
[06-May-2009 18:05:45] <mrayzenoss> I gotta head home, be back later
[06-May-2009 23:05:40] <kimt> gemineye: Please tell me what i am missing / have done wrong
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[07-May-2009 07:33:39] <cy_`> hello
[07-May-2009 08:12:22] <rocket> morning matt
[07-May-2009 08:12:24] <rocket> morning chet
[07-May-2009 08:12:28] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[07-May-2009 08:12:57] <sergeymasushko> morning guys
[07-May-2009 08:13:16] <rocket> cluther: have time for a question?
[07-May-2009 08:17:35] <rocket> cluther: I am trying to lock a subcomponent from my os object .. but I am having a hard time getting the relation path working right ..
[07-May-2009 08:17:40] <rocket> cluther: eg something like
[07-May-2009 08:17:42] <rocket> self.volumegroup.logicalvolume.filesystem._getOb(fsid).absolute_url())
[07-May-2009 08:26:07] <cluther> rocket: It should be more complicated than that I think..
[07-May-2009 08:26:36] <cluther> self.volumegroups._getOb('vgName').logicalvolumes._getOb('lvName').filesystems._getOb('fsName')
[07-May-2009 08:26:51] <cluther> You need to get the proper object out of each relation along the way.
[07-May-2009 08:27:27] <rocket> cluther: ouch!
[07-May-2009 08:27:43] <rocket> cluther: would you setup a different relation instead?
[07-May-2009 08:27:50] <cluther> You may want to create some helper methods to keep the code clean.
[07-May-2009 08:27:54] <cluther> No.. this is right.
[07-May-2009 08:31:01] <rocket> hrmm ok ..
[07-May-2009 08:31:19] <rocket> thanks chet
[07-May-2009 08:31:36] <rocket> the trouble I go through to have the full functionality in this zenpack
[07-May-2009 08:34:44] <rocket> cluther: bah I can make this easier ..
I already have the objects from a previous method .. I just need to create a custom unlockdevicecomponents method for this case [07-May-2009 08:35:37] <rocket> just get the id param out of the objects .. compare it to the passed in string .. and call the unlock or lock method on that object ..
[07-May-2009 08:52:39] <sergeymasushko> someone tried to monitor cisco voip gateways?
[07-May-2009 08:57:30] <osd_mats> anyone here know about the "HRSWInstalledMap failed" problem?
[07-May-2009 08:57:43] <mrayzenoss> osd_mats: we're looking at it
[07-May-2009 08:57:59] <osd_mats> ok, good... Maybe put that in the topic?
[07-May-2009 09:22:20] <rocket> cluther: does it even make sense to include the add or delete filesystem methods from the os page?
[07-May-2009 09:22:43] <rocket> cluther: especially since the user would have to know which logical volume etc to put it in ..
[07-May-2009 09:23:01] <rocket> cluther: would you just strip them out and just include the locking methods?
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[07-May-2009 10:55:44] <lguest> hhmm, no chat?
[07-May-2009 10:58:55] <perr0> what do you want to chat about
[07-May-2009 10:59:16] <rigeld2> We're changing about 100 ips in our datacenter in a few weeks.. is there a config file somewhere that I can run a script against to change the IPs, do I have to do it manually, or are they stored in the database somewhere?
[07-May-2009 11:00:28] <perr0> that is a good question, I wonder if you do an auto discovery will do this for you
[07-May-2009 11:01:27] <rigeld2> Hrm. I doubt it, but I could try... after we do it. Was trying to investigate before the major change.
[07-May-2009 11:06:46] <lguest> anyone see issues when deleting devices? when we do a few at a time all the heartbeats timeout for over 10 min
[07-May-2009 11:15:13] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: I'd think you need to write a zendmd script to find each device and update the IP address
[07-May-2009 11:18:33] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: something like dev = find("yourhostname")
[07-May-2009 11:18:50] <mrayzenoss> dev.setManageIp('10.0.111.5')
[07-May-2009 11:18:56] <mrayzenoss> in a script
[07-May-2009 11:22:30] <mrayzenoss> rigeld2: take a look at something like http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/scotts-batch-loader
[07-May-2009 11:22:38] <rmatte> weird, Zenoss saw 2 ports go down a while ago and still thinks they are down
[07-May-2009 11:22:41] <adytum-bot> Title: Scott's Batch Loader - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-May-2009 11:24:13] <rmatte> although it doesn't show them passing traffic
[07-May-2009 11:24:57] <rmatte> time to remodel and see if that fixes it
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[07-May-2009 11:59:26] <caseyh2007> Hows it going everyone? I am trying to upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0 on FreeBSD 7.0 but I ran into an issue I can't figure out
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[07-May-2009 11:59:57] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[07-May-2009 11:59:58] <caseyh2007> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[07-May-2009 12:00:00] <caseyh2007> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[07-May-2009 12:00:02] <caseyh2007> ./libxml/encoding.h:29:19: error: iconv.h: No such file or directory
[07-May-2009 12:00:04] <caseyh2007> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[07-May-2009 12:00:06] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[07-May-2009 12:00:08] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[07-May-2009 12:00:10] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[07-May-2009 12:00:12] <caseyh2007> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[07-May-2009 12:00:14] <caseyh2007> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[07-May-2009 12:00:16] <caseyh2007> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[07-May-2009 12:00:18] <caseyh2007> ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[07-May-2009 12:00:20] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[07-May-2009 12:00:22] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[07-May-2009 12:00:24] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[07-May-2009 12:00:26] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[07-May-2009 12:00:28] <caseyh2007> *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17.
[07-May-2009 12:00:30] <caseyh2007> gmake: *** [/home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/rrddeps-build] Error 1
[07-May-2009 12:00:32] <caseyh2007> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[07-May-2009 12:00:44] <caseyh2007> and zenbuild.log has nothing in it about this
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[08-May-2009 10:27:19] <rocket> Hello
[08-May-2009 10:27:24] <mrayzenoss> weird
[08-May-2009 10:27:37] <mrayzenoss> apparently the channel was set to moderated
[08-May-2009 10:27:50] <rocket> hrmmm
[08-May-2009 10:28:18] <mrayzenoss> probably my fault
[08-May-2009 10:28:33] <mrayzenoss> if anyone ever has issues with the channel, email me ASAP
[08-May-2009 10:29:05] <rocket> sure not a problem
[08-May-2009 10:29:12] <rocket> I just logged in and noticed it
[08-May-2009 10:29:29] <rocket> though it would be nice to get the bot to auto voice me
[08-May-2009 10:32:14] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I have a question regarding my zenpack ui .. whom should I talk to .. I would like to keep it as consistent as possible but aix's quirks make it a little troublesome
[08-May-2009 10:32:35] * coofamani shreaks... aix
[08-May-2009 10:33:35] <mrayzenoss_> rocket: I'd say continue to bug Chet and Ian when you see them in the channel, or the dev or zenpacks lists
[08-May-2009 10:35:54] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: ok
[08-May-2009 10:36:26] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: would you find it acceptable to remove the "add filesystem, remove filesystem options" from my zenpacks menus?
[08-May-2009 10:36:44] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: its a little complicated to keep them as right now they are broken
[08-May-2009 10:37:02] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: since filesystems location is under a different containter etc
[08-May-2009 10:37:42] <rocket> and does it really make sense to manually add a filesystem to a logical volume when the modeller picks it up?
[08-May-2009 10:38:15] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I dont really see the need .. but thats where someone else with more time under zenoss might shed some light
[08-May-2009 10:41:35] <cluther> rocket: We're constantly debating this manual addition of components.
[08-May-2009 10:41:46] <cluther> cluther: I agree with you. Let the stuff be modeled.
[08-May-2009 10:41:52] <cluther> rocket: Remove the menus.
[08-May-2009 10:42:19] <cluther> hmm.. I was agreeing with you, rocket, not myself.
[08-May-2009 10:42:38] <rocket> cluther: ok I will support the locking methods but drop the add and remove menus
[08-May-2009 10:42:56] <rocket> cluther: I will implement my own menu name so it doesnt mess with the real filesystems menu etc ..
[08-May-2009 10:43:27] <rocket> cluther: sound reasonable to you?
[08-May-2009 10:43:37] <cluther> Completely.
[08-May-2009 10:43:59] <jb> hey rocket
[08-May-2009 10:44:00] <jb> and cluther
[08-May-2009 10:44:01] <rocket> Great .. thanks
[08-May-2009 10:44:04] <rocket> hey jb
[08-May-2009 10:44:30] <rocket> cluther: I did have something weird happen when I was in the development of this zenpack
[08-May-2009 10:44:54] <rocket> cluther: seems the objects for the templates disappeared out of the zope database
[08-May-2009 10:45:09] <rocket> cluther: have no idea what happened .. just poof they were gone ..
[08-May-2009 10:45:28] <rocket> cluther: cant replicate .. just thought it was weird ..
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[08-May-2009 10:47:07] <rocket> mrayzenoss: you seem to loose connectivity quite often
[08-May-2009 10:47:46] <mrayzenoss> office to a meeting
[08-May-2009 10:48:21] <rmatte> he's almost seamless in his office to meeting transitions, but not quite
[08-May-2009 10:48:40] <rmatte>
[08-May-2009 10:48:48] <jb> mrayzenoss: screen works wonders
[08-May-2009 10:48:58] <rmatte> screen is awesome
[08-May-2009 10:49:09] <jb> . Client Running Since Thu Feb 14 10:28:18 2008
[08-May-2009 10:49:09] <jb> | Client Uptime: 449d 0h 20m 46s
[08-May-2009 10:49:14] <jb>
[08-May-2009 10:49:19] <rmatte> nice
[08-May-2009 10:49:43] <rmatte> my server hasn't even been up that long, but then again I had a power outage, otherwise it would be at almost a year
[08-May-2009 10:49:47] <rmatte> power outage = electrical fire
[08-May-2009 10:49:52] <rmatte> my UPS couldn't hold out
[08-May-2009 10:49:55] <rmatte> 11:29:35 up 201 days, 11:59, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[08-May-2009 10:50:01] <rmatte> and now, I'm moving to a new apartment
[08-May-2009 10:50:05] <rmatte> so bye bye uptime
[08-May-2009 10:51:09] <jb> 11:51AM up 910 days, 17:01, 29 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.11, 0.08
[08-May-2009 10:51:10] <jb> :/
[08-May-2009 10:51:17] <rmatte> wow
[08-May-2009 10:51:23] <rmatte> crazy uptime
[08-May-2009 10:51:34] <rmatte> probably hosted in an actual data center though I'm assuming?
[08-May-2009 10:51:44] <jb> yeah
[08-May-2009 10:51:45] <rocket> hrmmm me looks for kernel bugs in jb's system ..
[08-May-2009 10:51:49] <jb> its an fbsd 5.5 box
[08-May-2009 10:51:52] <jb> dont hack me
[08-May-2009 10:51:55] <rmatte> haha
[08-May-2009 10:51:59] <rmatte> that's so oldschool
[08-May-2009 10:52:29] <jb> i keep forgetting im not spoofed on this network.
[08-May-2009 10:52:34] <rmatte> 29 users?
[08-May-2009 10:52:47] <jb> yeah
[08-May-2009 10:52:52] <rmatte> business server I'm guessing
[08-May-2009 10:52:57] <jb> not really
[08-May-2009 10:53:40] <rmatte> did you buy the server then colo it?
[08-May-2009 10:54:18] <jb> it's a friends box..
[08-May-2009 10:54:20] <jb> not mine
[08-May-2009 10:54:21] <rmatte> ah
[08-May-2009 10:54:43] <rmatte> one of my friends has a server in his house that has been up for almost 500 days
[08-May-2009 10:54:46] <rmatte> OpenBSD box
[08-May-2009 11:03:37] <perr0> BSDs rawks
[08-May-2009 11:06:50] <gemineye> Um, I thought this problem was fixed when doing a stack upgrade to 2.4... Error copying file from packed archive /root/zenoss-stack-2.4.0-linux-x64.bin to /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin
[08-May-2009 11:10:56] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: Did this hose my upgrade?
[08-May-2009 11:12:09] <rmatte> probably didn't hose it, but definitely a roadblock
[08-May-2009 11:12:54] <gemineye> I had better luck yesterday with a different upgrade. I'm going to do a full restore of /usr/local/zenoss and try again with the installer I downloaded yesterday that worked.
[08-May-2009 11:23:12] <gemineye> Does anyone have an idea of how long an upgrade might take with around 200 monitored systems?
[08-May-2009 11:30:09] <PrimeHaxor> someone have some zenpack for tomcat ?
[08-May-2009 11:32:01] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: I don't think this is a core package?
[08-May-2009 11:32:36] <perr0> not free atleast
[08-May-2009 11:33:10] <PrimeHaxor> perr0, on the core don't have any thing related with tomcat =[
[08-May-2009 11:33:59] <perr0> don't think so
[08-May-2009 11:38:58] <jb> TomcatMonitor is an enterprise pack..
[08-May-2009 11:39:09] <gemineye> Good, full restore from backup successful and upgrade from stack installer downloaded yesterday, not today, worked.
[08-May-2009 11:39:14] <jb> it shouldn't be too hard to create though.. it uses JMX
[08-May-2009 11:50:17] <perr0> jb: JMX is web development?
[08-May-2009 11:53:17] <perr0> I don't think this would work for me, I am not on the development end in my case, I did find this thread on monitoring Tomcat with JMX extensions
[08-May-2009 11:53:22] <perr0> http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Java/comp.lang.java.programmer/2007-02/msg02293.html
[08-May-2009 11:53:32] <adytum-bot> Title: how to monitor tomcat (at coding.derkeiler.com)
[08-May-2009 11:55:33] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: maybe if you google: nagios tomcat plugin you can get help that way
[08-May-2009 11:57:37] <gene_> morning all. I've got a bit of an odd problem so I thought I'd throw it out there, see if anyone had seen this before. I've gotten zenoss up and working with LDAP authentication against an Active Directory domain (based off of these instructions http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ). I've built up another zenoss server and attempted to configure it to authenticate against our other Active Directory domain, and am ha
[08-May-2009 11:57:41] <gene_> http://pastebin.com/m6371778f
[08-May-2009 11:57:47] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 11:57:58] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[08-May-2009 11:58:35] <rmatte> "/\Du#▒$K▒/▒˹▒" --- odd ID
[08-May-2009 11:58:57] <gene_> absolutely
[08-May-2009 11:59:36] <gene_> I would think that it's some ephemeral corruption in the zope DB however when a new user attempts to login who never has before, their ID is also odd and malformed
[08-May-2009 12:01:32] <rmatte> hmmm, no idea
[08-May-2009 12:02:38] <gene_> I'm figuring at this point I'll just try building a new system from scratch on a VM and seeing if I get the problem again. I know the process works since I've got it working for a different AD domain.
[08-May-2009 12:02:55] <cluther> gene_: You can likely fix it..
[08-May-2009 12:03:11] <cluther> gene_: Go to /zport/acl_users/manage
[08-May-2009 12:03:22] <cluther> gene_: Click into your LDAP plugin and go to its Properties tab
[08-May-2009 12:03:37] <cluther> gene_: Change the groupid_attr to cn
[08-May-2009 12:03:58] <gene_> cluther : trying, one moment
[08-May-2009 12:04:17] <cluther> gene_: Then go to the Contents tab and click in the the acl_users
[08-May-2009 12:04:55] <cluther> Make sure that all three of the user properties are sAMAccountName
[08-May-2009 12:05:47] <cluther> The pastebin makes it look like the Windows GUID is being used for something where we really need a simple user ID.
[08-May-2009 12:06:51] <mrayzenoss> perr0: check the new Extended Monitoring Guide for ZenJMX. It's well-documented: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[08-May-2009 12:07:02] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 12:07:04] <gene_> cluther : !!! wow, very nice.
[08-May-2009 12:07:09] <gene_> cluther : here's what I did
[08-May-2009 12:07:26] <mrayzenoss> ahh, that was meant for PrimeHaxor who left
[08-May-2009 12:07:26] <gene_> the groupid_attr was set to "objectGUID" which I changed to "cn"
[08-May-2009 12:07:37] <perr0> mrayzenoss: thank you much for that. I will look into it.
[08-May-2009 12:07:52] <mrayzenoss> need to advertise that new doc more, it's awesome
[08-May-2009 12:08:04] <gene_> the "User ID Attribute" was set to objectGUID (which should have been samAccountName). I set that one to samAccountName and it worked. I knew about the latter (not sure how it was wrong) but not the former
[08-May-2009 12:08:39] <gene_> cluther : Thank you very very much. Kind of amazed you caught that one
[08-May-2009 12:08:50] <gene_> cluther : I'll add these details to our build documentation. Thank you!
[08-May-2009 12:08:58] <gemineye> Argh, mrayzenoss, I've got "that problem" again.
[08-May-2009 12:09:05] <rmatte> cluther == zenguru
[08-May-2009 12:09:10] <cluther> gene_: Cool.
[08-May-2009 12:09:11] <gene_> rmatte : word
[08-May-2009 12:09:40] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: which one?
[08-May-2009 12:09:55] <gemineye> I have a bunch of WinServices that Zenoss claims aren't being monitored, but I'm getting alerts on them.
[08-May-2009 12:10:21] <gemineye> It started after I upgraded to 2.4
[08-May-2009 12:11:06] <rmatte> gemineye: it might be something along the lines of the problem that I was experiencing not too long ago...
[08-May-2009 12:11:12] <rmatte> try this:
[08-May-2009 12:11:24] <rmatte> execute zendmd from the command line
[08-May-2009 12:11:30] <gemineye> and run reindex()?
[08-May-2009 12:11:34] <rmatte> yessier
[08-May-2009 12:11:39] <gemineye> tried that, no go
[08-May-2009 12:11:39] <rmatte> then commit()
[08-May-2009 12:11:46] <gemineye> oh... didn't know about the commit() part
[08-May-2009 12:11:48] <rmatte> then you need to remodel the devices that are complaining
[08-May-2009 12:12:06] <rmatte> only remodel if the alerts don't go away after the commit
[08-May-2009 12:12:32] <gemineye> I ran a reindex() but exited zendmd, do I have to run reindex() again or can I just run commit()?
[08-May-2009 12:12:38] <rmatte> yes, you do
[08-May-2009 12:12:56] <rmatte> when you exited you flushed the reindex that was in memory
[08-May-2009 12:13:00] <gemineye> bummer
[08-May-2009 12:13:04] <rmatte> yup
[08-May-2009 12:20:53] <mrayzenoss> for those of you keeping score at home, I'm now back in my office
[08-May-2009 12:23:09] <rmatte> haha
[08-May-2009 12:23:18] <rmatte> I figured as much
[08-May-2009 12:26:48] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: It took you 14 seconds to switch over, why so slow?
[08-May-2009 12:27:58] <cluther> mrayzenoss: You go to too many meetings.
[08-May-2009 12:28:39] <mrayzenoss> wireless off, ethernet on
[08-May-2009 13:05:27] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: mrayzenoss posted a link for you
[08-May-2009 13:05:59] <PrimeHaxor> perr0, sorry i've got a disc
[08-May-2009 13:06:09] <perr0> ?
[08-May-2009 13:06:16] <PrimeHaxor> i didn't see the link
[08-May-2009 13:06:23] <perr0> sorry
[08-May-2009 13:07:02] <perr0> (12:07:25 PM) mrayzenoss: perr0: check the new Extended Monitoring Guide for ZenJMX. It's well-documented: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[08-May-2009 13:07:14] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2009 13:07:24] <perr0> this a document to help you write a zenpack for Tomcat
[08-May-2009 13:09:09] <PrimeHaxor> great
[08-May-2009 13:10:22] <PrimeHaxor> ty
[08-May-2009 13:36:48] <mrayzenoss_> rmatte: another meeting
[08-May-2009 13:40:55] <rmatte> hehe
[08-May-2009 13:41:12] <rmatte> too many meetings!
[08-May-2009 13:41:33] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: what are you doing in all these meetings ..
[08-May-2009 13:41:38] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: way to break up a day
[08-May-2009 13:41:52] <mrayzenoss_> right now it's the 2.4 Development Retrospective
[08-May-2009 13:42:39] <mrayzenoss_> what went well, what didn't what we can do to improve in the next release. We're Agile
[08-May-2009 13:42:52] <rmatte> cool
[08-May-2009 13:52:34] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: I would say refactoring some code would be good
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[08-May-2009 14:32:14] <rocket> cluther: ping
[08-May-2009 14:56:17] <PrimeHaxor> the mysql zenpack isn't working
[08-May-2009 14:56:44] <PrimeHaxor> when i added it appears working, after 10 min become down
[08-May-2009 14:58:04] <rmatte> did you remodel the devices in question?
[08-May-2009 14:58:53] <PrimeHaxor> no, i think
[08-May-2009 14:59:03] <rmatte> well, try that
[08-May-2009 15:02:23] <PrimeHaxor> with remodel, the zenoss figure out the config?
[08-May-2009 15:03:33] <PrimeHaxor> after remodel become up and down again
[08-May-2009 15:36:51] <edwardam> Anyone have any experience with Multi-Graph Reports?
[08-May-2009 15:37:01] <edwardam> I can't seem to set one up correctly.
[08-May-2009 15:38:11] <edwardam> I read the Admin guide and parts that it talks about just don't seem to be working (like Graph Point definitions)
[08-May-2009 15:47:24] <jb> whats wrong with them?
[08-May-2009 15:47:54] <jb> did you define your collections?
[08-May-2009 15:48:50] <edwardam> jb: actually ... just figured out what's up
[08-May-2009 15:49:14] <edwardam> jb: same make/model of switch ... one port from each needs to be aggregated into one graph
[08-May-2009 15:49:38] <edwardam> jb: what I just discovered is that one of the interfaces is using the ethernetCsmacd_64 template and the other is using the ethernetCsmacd template
[08-May-2009 15:50:15] <jb> ahh
[08-May-2009 15:50:17] <jb> okey
[08-May-2009 15:50:57] <edwardam> jb: any idea how that happened or what I can do to fix it?
[08-May-2009 15:57:39] <edwardam> jb: Figured that out too ... the snmp version zProperty for the _64 bit one was v2c ... the other was v1
[08-May-2009 16:00:20] <kisielk> edwardam: I wrote a forum post about it some time ago
[08-May-2009 16:01:12] <kisielk> anyone know how to get access to a device's hardware instance through XML RPC ?
[08-May-2009 16:02:42] <edwardam> kisielk: now that this is fixed, any idea how I actually show the sum of both ifHCIn/OutOctets_ifHCIn/OutOctets as 2 points, not 4 (one for In, one for out)
[08-May-2009 16:03:32] <kisielk> that I have no idea
[08-May-2009 16:04:32] * edwardam knows how to do that with RAW rrd
[08-May-2009 16:10:01] <edwardam> Anyone know how to do summaries in a Mutli-Graph report ?
[08-May-2009 16:34:18] <rmatte> is there any way to create a report for process cpu/memory usage across multiple servers but just have it display in plain text rather than graphs?
[08-May-2009 17:03:32] <kisielk> rmatte: yeah with a bit of coding
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[09-May-2009 17:59:37] <slestak> isit reasonable to expect to run 2.4 in a vm, monitoring ~ 200 devices?
[09-May-2009 17:59:52] <slestak> i only have one collector right now.
[09-May-2009 18:01:10] <slestak> i have the vmware image running now, but it is not fully configured. if i decide to put it on physical machine, i am hoping I can just restore a backup and not lose existing config
[09-May-2009 18:04:27] <sergeymasushko> slestak: there is device dump to xml/upload feature, however it is available only from command line.
[09-May-2009 18:10:19] <slestak> sergeymasushko: great, tyvm
[09-May-2009 18:11:42] <slestak> is snmp the suggested method of monitoring servers, (win | *nix) or is snmp really best for just switches and printers and such
[09-May-2009 18:16:51] <sergeymasushko> *nix machines can be monitored by snmp and ssh, btw last 2.4 version has improved ssh linux servers monitoring. but I'm using snmp for all. actually I do not have any win servers so I can not help you with it, but I believe that win boxes also can be monitored by snmp.
[09-May-2009 18:17:51] <slestak> is it advised to setup public keys for the zenossto monitor by ssh?
[09-May-2009 18:18:10] <slestak> nevermind, obvious
[09-May-2009 18:20:00] <slestak> i am working through the fine manual, but i havent gotten too far. one thing i need to do quickly, is I have moved a whole slew of desktops from Autodiscovery to a Desktop class. Can I set a time period to check these by ping, or disbale ping altogether just for that class?
[09-May-2009 18:21:05] <sergeymasushko> sure, you can do it on the 'zProperties' page of the Class.
[09-May-2009 18:21:41] <slestak> thx, i was gathering a lot of ping failures as ppl went home Friday night
[09-May-2009 18:22:27] <slestak> i dont really care when these machines or up or down, i just want to see ide smart data and that their virus data is updating
[09-May-2009 18:22:52] <sergeymasushko> the parameter called e.g. 'zPingMonitorIgnore' just set it to 'true'
[09-May-2009 18:24:22] <slestak> i think the only strange thing i have seen since starting the vmdk, is the Device Edit dialoge. Sometimes I will edit a device, save the page, and not all of the data is saved. i will add manufacturer and model, and only one of two would save, sometimes
[09-May-2009 18:26:09] <sergeymasushko> dunno, I never saw it before
[09-May-2009 18:27:55] <slestak> it was pretty repeatable. i'll troubleshoot, see if i can determine anything
[09-May-2009 18:29:06] <sergeymasushko> gotta go... good luck
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[10-May-2009 21:41:42] <slestak> hey guys. i have gotten my google api key, and enabled the portlet for location mapping. however, it always zooms to somewherein the pacific and doesnt show my data
[10-May-2009 21:45:18] <slestak> i am using the vmware image install
[10-May-2009 22:02:22] <slestak> how do we need to specify location. is city, state sufficient?
[10-May-2009 22:27:13] <slestak> i see a forum discussing zenpatch 13443, but that was not helpful. same result.
[10-May-2009 22:28:40] <slestak> i am setting Base Location in portlet settings, and saving it, but the value is not being saved.
[10-May-2009 23:17:40] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Daily Python-URL! (from the Secret Labs) - Beards of Python
[10-May-2009 23:17:41] <adytum-bot> http://www.pythonware.com/daily/#entry5770027951032885086
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[11-May-2009 07:25:42] <roadies> can you map root subnets, for example, Zenoss IP is 10.2.1.0. Mapping 10.2.1.0/4-hops works but mapping 10.0.0.0/4-hops doesn't create a map
[11-May-2009 09:05:10] <rocket> cluther: ping
[11-May-2009 09:17:34] <cluther> rocket: Good morning. What's up?
[11-May-2009 09:17:49] <rocket> have a quick question ... looking for a solution
[11-May-2009 09:18:04] <rocket> first I have a problem with aix snmp .. that ibm will have to fix
[11-May-2009 09:18:13] <rocket> but basically the aixmibd process dies
[11-May-2009 09:18:25] <rocket> so not all of the snmp vars are available
[11-May-2009 09:18:44] <rocket> and I am wondering how I could go about setting up a event for something like that
[11-May-2009 09:19:13] <rocket> eg the perf data isnt up to date and or I would be missing thresholds because that data isnt available
[11-May-2009 09:20:47] <cluther> That would create debug severity events in /Perf/Snmp.
[11-May-2009 09:20:52] <cluther> Error reading value ...
[11-May-2009 09:21:05] <cluther> You could catch those with a transform on the /Perf/Snmp event class.
[11-May-2009 09:21:18] <rocket> cluther: ah ok .. I will look for those
[11-May-2009 09:21:22] <rocket> Thanks
[11-May-2009 09:23:52] <jb> morning
[11-May-2009 09:23:53] <rocket> cluther: otherwise I have most of it working now
[11-May-2009 09:24:14] <rocket> cluther: I am now just running into some issues to troubleshoot locking etc in some of the subcomponents
[11-May-2009 09:24:29] <cluther> I can't wait to see this thing.
[11-May-2009 09:24:36] <jb> me either!
[11-May-2009 09:24:45] <jb> i mentioned it to erik, and he though it was a great idea.
[11-May-2009 09:24:53] <jb> s/though/thought
[11-May-2009 09:25:33] <rocket> cluther: email address I can send some screen shots to?
[11-May-2009 09:25:41] <jb> care to send them my way as well?
[11-May-2009 09:25:46] <rocket> sure
[11-May-2009 09:25:58] <cluther> cluther@zenoss.com is mine
[11-May-2009 09:26:29] <rocket> I dont have all the performance graphs built but those are easy to finish
[11-May-2009 09:26:39] <jb> yeah thats the easy part
[11-May-2009 09:26:44] <jb> what perf graphs do you have?
[11-May-2009 09:26:50] <jb> like VG size, etc?
[11-May-2009 09:27:06] <rocket> jb: yeah
[11-May-2009 09:30:08] <rocket> pics are on the way
[11-May-2009 09:31:02] <rocket> still fixing a few things etc ..
but enough is there to get the idea [11-May-2009 09:32:22] <robos> hi: i am running centos 4 and getting some dependency errors, such as libssl.so.6 and libc.so.6. Should i upgrade centos to version 5 or do you think i can fix the dependency problems manually?
[11-May-2009 09:33:27] <robos> reading the manual it has install instructions for centos 5, but it also has upgrade instructions for centos 4. Thus i think that intalling on version 4 is possible
[11-May-2009 09:34:34] <jb> i'd upgrade to el5
[11-May-2009 09:35:02] <jb> oh nice
[11-May-2009 09:35:05] <jb> you even did print queues?
[11-May-2009 09:35:11] <rocket> jb yup
[11-May-2009 09:35:34] <rocket> jb: at the moment we do alot with print queues .. so our help desk wanted that
[11-May-2009 09:35:39] <jb> yeah we do too
[11-May-2009 09:36:03] <rocket> jb: I created a new threshold that will create events if the queue goes down etc ..
[11-May-2009 09:36:24] <rocket> thats the point threshold thingy in the graph
[11-May-2009 09:36:26] <jb> are you populating stuff like the serial number, etc?
[11-May-2009 09:36:35] <jb> on the main device page
[11-May-2009 09:36:42] <rocket> yea I will be
[11-May-2009 09:36:56] <rocket> that one isnt done yet from the web page side but I have the info
[11-May-2009 09:37:02] <rocket> from the modeler
[11-May-2009 09:37:11] <jb> so you got it all from snmp?
[11-May-2009 09:37:17] <rocket> yes
[11-May-2009 09:37:27] <jb> awesome
[11-May-2009 09:37:32] <jb> maybe I'll switch back to snmp
[11-May-2009 09:37:34] <jb> if it proves to be stable
[11-May-2009 09:38:10] <rocket> yeah I am not sure if its stable enough myself .. so I might be forced to rewrite some of this to use ssh .. but that shouldnt be too hard to do if I have to go that route
[11-May-2009 09:38:28] <jb> right
[11-May-2009 09:38:34] <jb> it should be easy to get all of this using ssh
[11-May-2009 09:38:47] <jb> nothing would change other than the modelers, right?
[11-May-2009 09:39:02] <jb> ive just had bad stability experience with aix's snmpd
[11-May-2009 09:39:16] <rocket> jb: and the datapoints themselves
[11-May-2009 09:39:23] <rocket> jb: for the perf stuff that is
[11-May-2009 09:39:26] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:39:33] <jb> i'd be more than willing to help
[11-May-2009 09:39:42] <rocket> I would have to update those to use the ssh stuff .. but otherwise not an issue
[11-May-2009 09:40:01] <rocket> jb: otherwise I think its coming along nicely
[11-May-2009 09:40:05] <jb> definetely
[11-May-2009 09:40:07] <jb> looking really good.
[11-May-2009 09:40:40] <rocket> cluther: get the screenies?
[11-May-2009 09:40:52] <rocket> jb: get my second email?
[11-May-2009 09:40:55] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:41:36] <rocket> jb: gives you an idea of what I will be able to put on that hd page
[11-May-2009 09:41:59] <rocket> jb: I have to change things from strings too when I am all done .. but for now they work
[11-May-2009 09:43:09] <jb> yeah
[11-May-2009 09:43:35] <jb> this should all work for 5.3 too?
[11-May-2009 09:43:43] <jb> most of our stuff is still 5.3
[11-May-2009 09:43:44] <rocket> jb: should
[11-May-2009 09:44:01] <rocket> jb: I have a 5.3 machine I am testing against
[11-May-2009 09:44:15] <rocket> half and half here .. so it has to work for both when I am done with it
[11-May-2009 09:44:21] <jb> k
[11-May-2009 09:44:38] <jb> i need to start reading up on the ssh modeler documentation
[11-May-2009 09:45:12] <rocket> jb: sent another shot showing the main page and its alerting status
[11-May-2009 09:45:18] <jb> yeah saw it
[11-May-2009 09:45:20] <jb> nice
[11-May-2009 09:45:27] <rocket> jb: eg print queues show up etc
[11-May-2009 09:48:47] <cluther> Very nice!
[11-May-2009 09:48:53] <rocket>
[11-May-2009 09:49:08] <rocket> cluther: thats what I have been bugging you for
[11-May-2009 09:53:16] <rocket> cluther: see my multilevel stuff working?
[11-May-2009 10:20:29] <rocket> jb: I will have to update the displays etc to get more real time info etc yet ... but thats pretty easy too
[11-May-2009 10:20:48] <rocket> at the moment file sizes etc are just modelled information
[11-May-2009 10:21:01] <rocket> I need to get that information out of the datapoints
[11-May-2009 10:21:47] <rocket> morning matt
[11-May-2009 10:23:48] <mrayzenoss> morning all
[11-May-2009 10:30:40] <roadies> Have two mapping questions, first, how to you get zenoss to put the zenoss server in a map
[11-May-2009 10:31:51] <robos> hi, i am trying to install zenoss on centos 4 per the instruction manual and I'm getting a mysql dependency error. http://pastie.org/474508 -- it's looking for mysql version 5.0.22 but i have version 5.1.34-0 installed. Do i need to uninstall version 5.1 and install 5.0?
[11-May-2009 10:32:03] <adytum-bot> Title: #474508 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 10:34:15] <mrayzenoss> roadies: You will need to create Locations and then assign devices to the locations
[11-May-2009 10:34:26] <mrayzenoss> roadies: left side panel ->Locations
[11-May-2009 10:43:19] <mrayzenoss> robos: MySQL 5.1 is not officially supported yet, so 5.0 is probably a safer install
[11-May-2009 10:45:04] <roadies> mrayzenoss: Using Management->Add Devices, I can, of course, add all my devices, which does create the Browse->Locations entries including the zenoss server. The problem is it red tags with "127.0.0.1 sendto error Host server.name and localhost.localdomain are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[11-May-2009 10:45:57] <cluther> roadies: You can get around this by giving your Zenoss device a proper name and IP address (other than 127.0.0.1) within Zenoss.
[11-May-2009 10:48:15] edwardam|zZZz is now known as edwardam
[11-May-2009 10:50:51] <robos> cool, thanks mrayzenoss.
[11-May-2009 10:51:02] <robos> Now i just need to find a place to download mysq 5.0.22
[11-May-2009 10:51:14] <mrayzenoss> it's in the Dependencies RPM
[11-May-2009 10:51:21] <mrayzenoss> that we have with the CentOS 4 download
[11-May-2009 10:51:40] <robos> ah, sweet
[11-May-2009 10:51:45] <robos> thanks
[11-May-2009 10:54:06] <roadies> cluther: thanks.... it would help if I grab the "right" hostname out of the /etc/hosts file *sign*
[11-May-2009 10:56:54] <roadies> next mapping question: the server is on subnet 10.2.1.x/24, I want to map all 10.x.x.x/8 subnets. setting the map "Selected Device or Network" to 10.0.0.0/8 doesnt work...do I need to put the server at the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet?
[11-May-2009 11:24:17] <syntaxcollector> Hi Room
[11-May-2009 11:24:25] <rmatte> lo
[11-May-2009 11:24:51] <syntaxcollector> I have a template created on a single host, I'm trying to figure out how to copy this template to another host.
[11-May-2009 11:34:03] <rocket> syntaxcollector: unless you did a local copy of the template its not really applied to the host but to the organizer
[11-May-2009 11:34:10] <rocket> syntaxcollector: eg /server/linux
[11-May-2009 11:34:19] <syntaxcollector> its a local copy
[11-May-2009 11:36:49] <syntaxcollector> so how do i copy a local copy, i guess is my question
[11-May-2009 11:41:21] <rocket> from the zendmd command line if i remember correctly
[11-May-2009 11:42:05] <rocket> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/zendmd-tips-and-tricks/
[11-May-2009 11:42:16] <adytum-bot> Title: zendmd Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 11:56:25] <xulfer> Is there any way to map devices in a certain class based on the sysname rather than the reverse?
[11-May-2009 12:04:18] <caseyh20> I need help upgrading from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0 on FreeBSD 7.0
[11-May-2009 12:05:21] <caseyh20> I get this when running install
[11-May-2009 12:05:22] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17.
[11-May-2009 12:05:23] <caseyh20> gmake: *** [/home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/rrddeps-build] Error 1
[11-May-2009 12:05:23] <caseyh20> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[11-May-2009 12:06:08] <caseyh20> I have been unable to find any information on this error on google, any help is greatly appreciated
[11-May-2009 12:08:42] <robos> what does zenbuild.log say?
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> running install_scripts
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> Installing easy_install script to /usr/local/zenoss/bin
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> Installing easy_install-2.4 script to /usr/local/zenoss/bin
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> installing: mysql-python
[11-May-2009 12:10:33] <caseyh20> running build_scripts
[11-May-2009 12:10:34] <caseyh20> running install
[11-May-2009 12:10:36] <caseyh20> running build
[11-May-2009 12:10:38] <caseyh20> running build_py
[11-May-2009 12:10:40] <caseyh20> running build_ext
[11-May-2009 12:10:42] <caseyh20> running install_lib
[11-May-2009 12:16:58] <robos> sounds like pretty useless error messages
[11-May-2009 12:17:14] <caseyh20> yeah, thats what I said, lol
[11-May-2009 12:17:25] <robos> what i would do is look for warnings during configure and then when gmake is running look for any errors
[11-May-2009 12:17:33] <robos> just to get more info about the problem
[11-May-2009 12:17:43] <caseyh20> I did notice there is alot of warnings
[11-May-2009 12:18:09] <caseyh20> this would probably help:
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> In file included from ./libxml/parser.h:797,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/globals.h:19,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/threads.h:36,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/xmlmemory.h:217,
[11-May-2009 12:18:10] <caseyh20> from ./libxml/tree.h:1205,
[11-May-2009 12:18:11] <caseyh20> from ./libcroco/cr-sel-eng.h:34,
[11-May-2009 12:18:13] <caseyh20> from term-styled-ostream.oo.c:26:
[11-May-2009 12:18:15] <caseyh20> ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[11-May-2009 12:18:17] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:19] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[11-May-2009 12:18:21] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:23] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools/gnulib-lib.
[11-May-2009 12:18:25] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:25] <robos> might want to pastebot or pastie those errors
[11-May-2009 12:18:27] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[11-May-2009 12:18:29] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:31] <caseyh20> Stop in /home/caseyh/zenoss-2.4.0/build/gettext-0.17/gettext-tools.
[11-May-2009 12:18:33] <caseyh20> *** Error code 1
[11-May-2009 12:18:47] <caseyh20> right
[11-May-2009 12:19:44] <caseyh20> http://pastie.org/474620
[11-May-2009 12:19:55] <adytum-bot> Title: #474620 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 12:22:08] <caseyh20> ok, tried using live search instead of google, it would appear the include paths are not complete
[11-May-2009 12:48:19] <rmatte> are there any good documents explaining how to author reports?
[11-May-2009 12:48:26] <rmatte> each one I've seen so far has been fairly bland
[11-May-2009 13:09:23] <PrimeHaxor> hi, i the zenoss don't show the graphs of perf tab
[11-May-2009 13:09:32] <PrimeHaxor> the zenpack linuxmonitor already installed
[11-May-2009 13:18:48] <perr0> PrimeHaxor: are you remotely monitoring a linux box through ssh?
[11-May-2009 13:18:57] <perr0> nm
[11-May-2009 13:19:03] <perr0> sorry
[11-May-2009 14:22:59] <caseyh20> has anyone gotten 2.4.0 to compile on FreeBSD?
[11-May-2009 14:23:50] <mrayzenoss> I haven't seen any threads about it in the forums, there are usually a good number of FreeBSD users
[11-May-2009 14:24:41] <caseyh20> Right, which I am one of them but have been unable to get 2.4.0 to compile
[11-May-2009 14:25:58] <mrayzenoss> is this the issue? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
[11-May-2009 14:27:26] <caseyh20> unfortunately that is not my issue, lol, I can't get past compiling rrdtool, it fails compiling gettext
[11-May-2009 14:27:57] <perr0> I am running zenoss on freebsd stable 7.0 at home no issues here
[11-May-2009 14:27:59] <mrayzenoss> if you start up a forum thread, I'll have our build engineer take a look. Right now he's focused on fixing OSX Server
[11-May-2009 14:28:35] <perr0> caseyh20: have you looked why gettext is not compiling?
[11-May-2009 14:28:41] <perr0> is it blocked?
[11-May-2009 14:28:56] <perr0> you should be able to tell quite easy
[11-May-2009 14:29:11] <caseyh20> http://pastie.org/474620
[11-May-2009 14:29:22] <adytum-bot> Title: #474620 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:29:49] <caseyh20> from what you have said it is something with my system that is causing it to fail, I will continue to try to find a solution
[11-May-2009 14:29:51] <perr0> that is not eanough info
[11-May-2009 14:30:08] <perr0> do you run the security check?
[11-May-2009 14:30:08] <caseyh20> where should I be looking?
[11-May-2009 14:30:12] <perr0> I am trying to remember
[11-May-2009 14:30:51] <perr0> portaudit?
[11-May-2009 14:31:39] <caseyh20> I am not familiar with portaudit
[11-May-2009 14:32:38] <caseyh20> now I have gettext already installed via the ports, can I just comment it out of rrddeps.sh?
[11-May-2009 14:33:15] <caseyh20> lol, answered my own questions, no I cannot
[11-May-2009 14:33:28] <perr0> you need to figure out what the problem is
[11-May-2009 14:33:39] <mrayzenoss> perr0: are you running 2.4.0?
[11-May-2009 14:33:51] <perr0> no
[11-May-2009 14:33:55] <caseyh20> I am upgrading from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0
[11-May-2009 14:33:56] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.0 updated the RRDTool and brought in a bunch of new dependencies
[11-May-2009 14:34:08] <perr0> on freebsdizzle?
[11-May-2009 14:35:07] <caseyh20> yes, FreeBSD 7.0
[11-May-2009 14:35:33] <perr0> have you updated your ports recently, and you installed gettext seperately?
[11-May-2009 14:36:15] <caseyh20> yes I have, gettext is required for bash and many other things so you must install it before you can run the zenoss installer
[11-May-2009 14:36:39] <caseyh20> the version that is in the ports is 0.17_1 and zenoss tries to build 0.17.0
[11-May-2009 14:36:49] <perr0> I see that
[11-May-2009 14:37:13] <perr0> in your pastie is trying to install the one that comes with zenoss
[11-May-2009 14:37:26] <caseyh20> correct
[11-May-2009 14:38:34] <perr0> mrayzenoss: zenoss provides a install log correct?
[11-May-2009 14:38:48] <mrayzenoss> yeah, somewhere
[11-May-2009 14:38:56] <caseyh20> http://www.pastie.org/474769
[11-May-2009 14:38:58] <perr0> can you look inthere caseyh20
[11-May-2009 14:39:07] <adytum-bot> Title: #474769 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:39:31] <caseyh20> yeah, I will pastie it as well, I couldn't find anything use full in it
[11-May-2009 14:45:02] <perr0> the only reference to this I can find is a bug reported on bugs.gentoo for the same package 0.17. nothing too helpful
[11-May-2009 14:45:22] <caseyh20> http://www.pastie.org/474781
[11-May-2009 14:45:23] <perr0> have you tried ##freebsd?
[11-May-2009 14:45:32] <adytum-bot> Title: #474781 - Pastie (at www.pastie.org)
[11-May-2009 14:45:33] <caseyh20> I will
[11-May-2009 14:45:50] <caseyh20> that pastie is the complete contents of zenbuild.log
[11-May-2009 15:02:27] <perr0> caseyh20: I'd love to help but I am really busy. I hope my friends over ##freebsd can help! Have a nice day
[11-May-2009 15:02:28] <caseyh20> yeah, FreeBSD channel was no help, I will try to replicate the issue on a new setup and if it happens again I will make a forum post
[11-May-2009 15:02:34] <perr0> oops
[11-May-2009 15:02:36] <perr0>
[11-May-2009 15:02:43] <perr0> what did they say
[11-May-2009 15:03:08] <perr0> try again later maybe some of the guys will get home later
[11-May-2009 15:03:11] <caseyh20> they directed me to a ruby bug report, that didn't help lol
[11-May-2009 15:03:22] <caseyh20> will do, thank your for your help perr0
[11-May-2009 15:12:45] edwardam is now known as edwardam|food
[11-May-2009 15:31:57] <zen_user> I need help
[11-May-2009 15:32:33] <caseyh20> what is your issue zen_user?
[11-May-2009 15:32:48] <zen_user> re are re-ip'ing our entire network so the managed ip for every device needs to change
[11-May-2009 15:33:12] <zen_user> i need a way ?zendmd? to query for the current managed ip, then change the ip address.
[11-May-2009 15:33:28] <zen_user> i know i can do it via the gui but we are talking about 800 devices, not very effecient
[11-May-2009 15:33:33] <zen_user> any ideas?
[11-May-2009 15:34:04] <zen_user> excuse my typos i got a broke left arm
[11-May-2009 15:34:43] <mrayzenoss> hmmm... I just answered this somewhere
[11-May-2009 15:35:40] <zen_user> i'm not a python guru so any help on maybe the exact syntax i can use to scriopt this would be awesome
[11-May-2009 15:37:35] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: will all the boxes be in DNS?
[11-May-2009 15:39:08] <mrayzenoss> oops
[11-May-2009 15:41:54] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: if the boxes are all in DNS, try this: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=24902
[11-May-2009 15:42:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How to reset IP using zendmd? (at forums.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 15:42:31] <zen_user> sorry back
[11-May-2009 15:42:35] <mrayzenoss> if not, you should be able to do something like
[11-May-2009 15:42:40] <mrayzenoss> dev = find('boxname')
[11-May-2009 15:42:57] <zen_user> i know for a fact they are not in dns.
[11-May-2009 15:42:58] <mrayzenoss> dev.setManageIp('10.1.1.1')
[11-May-2009 15:43:07] <zen_user> from zendmd?
[11-May-2009 15:43:08] <mrayzenoss> check that thread
[11-May-2009 15:43:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[11-May-2009 15:43:12] <zen_user> kk
[11-May-2009 15:43:32] <mrayzenoss> good luck with the arm and typing
[11-May-2009 15:43:38] <zen_user> do i need to reindex or synch it
[11-May-2009 15:43:48] <zen_user> yeah suxs broke it in 3 places
[11-May-2009 15:43:52] <mrayzenoss> ugh
[11-May-2009 15:44:08] <zen_user> btw mrayzenoss i might have your biggest zenoss core install
[11-May-2009 15:44:20] <mrayzenoss> I dunno, somebody hit 10K devices recently
[11-May-2009 15:44:22] <zen_user> or maybe according to the howbig is your install thread
[11-May-2009 15:44:36] <zen_user> on core?
[11-May-2009 15:44:38] <mrayzenoss> but feel free to post and brag
[11-May-2009 15:44:39] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[11-May-2009 15:44:56] <mrayzenoss> he's doing multiple boxes by hand
[11-May-2009 15:44:57] <rocket> zen_user: how many collectors are you using?
[11-May-2009 15:44:57] <zen_user> has to be distributed collectors seperate mysql
[11-May-2009 15:45:04] <zen_user> 1
[11-May-2009 15:45:19] <zen_user> 100k oid request cycles in under a min
[11-May-2009 15:45:21] <mrayzenoss> 1 box record is 7 or 8K I believe
[11-May-2009 15:45:37] <zen_user> all routers and switches so i'm pulling a lot of oid's
[11-May-2009 15:45:55] <mrayzenoss> maybe there should be a number of data points record
[11-May-2009 15:46:01] <caseyh20> thats crazy, I just monitor 45 devices lol
[11-May-2009 15:46:03] <zen_user> has to be /ping
[11-May-2009 15:46:25] <cluther> data points are far more impressive.
[11-May-2009 15:46:28] <zen_user> no way you can doo 7 to 8k pulling cpu mem interface stats
[11-May-2009 15:46:40] <zen_user> how to i tell my data points?
[11-May-2009 15:47:43] <cluther> The performance tab of your collector(s).
[11-May-2009 15:47:48] * rocket goes for the most customized zenpack award ..
[11-May-2009 15:49:12] <caseyh20> who would be interested in say a zenoss iPhone/Blackberry/Android app?
[11-May-2009 15:49:21] <rocket> me
[11-May-2009 15:49:23] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: Me!
[11-May-2009 15:49:28] <caseyh20> lol
[11-May-2009 15:49:32] <zen_user> so say i have an ip of 10.1.1.1 how can i query for a device ip then set it's mgmt ip
[11-May-2009 15:49:38] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: email me, I've already got a guy working on speccing out an iPhone app
[11-May-2009 15:49:42] * zen_user wants more zendmd documentation
[11-May-2009 15:49:42] <rocket> caseyh20: I was going to start a blackberry one when I got the chance
[11-May-2009 15:49:54] <caseyh20> I have been working on an iPhone app
[11-May-2009 15:50:00] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: I have a bug that has been patched, how do i find out what patch to use? It's for ticket 4970
[11-May-2009 15:50:48] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: zenpatch 13487
[11-May-2009 15:50:57] <mrayzenoss> that's the 2.4 branch patch
[11-May-2009 15:51:27] <gemineye> What does that mean? that patch will fix a bunch of stuff?
[11-May-2009 15:51:41] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: that will apply that changeset to your zenoss installation
[11-May-2009 15:51:55] <gemineye> What does 13486 do then?
[11-May-2009 15:52:35] <mrayzenoss> probably the exact same thing, applied to trunk instead of the 2.4.x branch
[11-May-2009 15:52:50] <mrayzenoss> yup, same patch
[11-May-2009 15:55:59] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20, rocket: feel free to ping me on ideas for your iPhone app or feedback
[11-May-2009 15:56:11] <mrayzenoss> rocket: that was BlackBerry for you
[11-May-2009 15:56:42] <caseyh20> will do
[11-May-2009 15:57:11] <zen_user> i want an FWSM, IDSM2 and F5 BigIP zenpack
[11-May-2009 15:58:18] <mrayzenoss> well, we're about to start up a ZenPack contest, hopefully someone will submit those. Also looking for prize suggestions.
[11-May-2009 15:58:43] <zen_user> kimble 2
[11-May-2009 15:59:35] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: http://www.kimble.ie/ ?
[11-May-2009 15:59:43] <adytum-bot> Title: Kimble Home - Leading suppliers equipment (at www.kimble.ie)
[11-May-2009 15:59:50] <zen_user> so mrayzenoss: where can i find more documentation on zendmd
[11-May-2009 16:00:01] <zen_user> maybe i got wrong name it's an ebook reader
[11-May-2009 16:00:23] <mrayzenoss> Kindle
[11-May-2009 16:00:29] <mrayzenoss> Dev Guide: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[11-May-2009 16:00:42] <adytum-bot> Title: Documentation - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:00:51] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/zendmd-tips-and-tricks/
[11-May-2009 16:01:01] <adytum-bot> Title: zendmd Tips and Tricks - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:01:05] <zen_user> man i'm dreading this re-ip
[11-May-2009 16:01:07] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/netdata/use-a-zendmd-script-as-standalone-program/
[11-May-2009 16:01:15] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: that thread looked promising
[11-May-2009 16:01:18] <adytum-bot> Title: use a zendmd script as standalone program - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2009 16:01:23] <zen_user> only because i really don't have a good feel on how to get zenoss working right afterwards
[11-May-2009 16:01:28] <zen_user> non of our devices are in dns
[11-May-2009 16:01:46] <jb> why on earth not?
[11-May-2009 16:01:50] <caseyh20> any reason for not having them in dns?
[11-May-2009 16:01:51] <jb>
[11-May-2009 16:01:55] <caseyh20> lol
[11-May-2009 16:02:04] <zen_user> i really need to query on a given ip, check to ensure that its the current managedip for that device and if so set a new mgmt ip
[11-May-2009 16:02:15] <zen_user> oh we are putting them in dns this time around.
[11-May-2009 16:02:35] <zen_user> just not prior to changing the ip, server guys are bogged down as well
[11-May-2009 16:03:20] <zen_user> we got bought and the purchasing company was using out exact 10.11.0.0/16 space UGH
[11-May-2009 16:05:09] <zen_user> and i cant test any of this out now while i'm on irc, i'm working from home today and i don't allow irc out at work
[11-May-2009 16:05:44] <gemineye> is it possible to create something in the perf area that isn't a graph, but instead just a green or red dot? I have to monitor some services that we validate if they are up or not with a script.
[11-May-2009 16:06:49] <zen_user> mrayzenoss drop Ian an line and tell him one of gary m's friends needs help
[11-May-2009 16:06:50] <zen_user> lol
[11-May-2009 16:06:50] <rocket> gemineye: possible yes ... easy no
It will involve custom page templates and zenpacks .. [11-May-2009 16:07:34] <gemineye> So, I guess my best hope would be to just do a simple template that takes the data and has thresholds which alert if something goes from 0 to 1?
[11-May-2009 16:11:37] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I havent really thought too much about the blackberry app .. been more focused on aix at the moment
[11-May-2009 16:12:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I know there's demand for it, based on the feedback for the ZiPEC http://sourceforge.net/projects/zipec/
[11-May-2009 16:13:08] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: ZiPEC - iPhone Event Console for Zenoss (at sourceforge.net)
[11-May-2009 16:14:53] <caseyh20> Yeah, I am hoping to have a an alpha build of my iPhone app with in the next 4-6 weeks. The fact zenoss already has an xml-rpc interface should speed things up
[11-May-2009 16:16:48] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: what kind of stuff do you plan on doing?
[11-May-2009 16:17:40] <caseyh20> our company is integrating everything into zenoss, from account and sales tracking, to payroll. I plan on making the app be able to do everything the zenoss webportal can.
[11-May-2009 16:18:04] <mrayzenoss> sounds cool
[11-May-2009 16:18:22] <caseyh20> and with iPhone OS 3.0 I will be adding support for push notifications
[11-May-2009 16:25:13] <zen_user> mrayzenoss i read through that forum link and i'm still confused...i guess i'm going to have to use the gui ( i got 40 devices to do tonight ..... 250+ to do this weekend)
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[11-May-2009 16:27:50] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: so at the end of the thread, there's a script
[11-May-2009 16:32:54] <ke4qqq> rocket: ohhh please make a bb app - preferably something that communicates via bes to get access to zenoss so that I needn't expose zenoss to the world.
[11-May-2009 16:34:54] <mrayzenoss> zen_user: you should be able to write a simple script that gets each device and dumps the IP
[11-May-2009 16:35:12] <mrayzenoss> then take the IPs and feed them into another script to convert them, with the followup from that thread
[11-May-2009 16:35:43] <ke4qqq> mrayzenoss: you guys already book your hotel for SELF?
[11-May-2009 16:36:00] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: we just did it
[11-May-2009 16:36:09] <ke4qqq> today??
[11-May-2009 16:36:23] <ke4qqq> yeah I just found out that the conference hotel is completely booked now
[11-May-2009 16:36:27] <ke4qqq> which is a great sign
[11-May-2009 16:36:28] <mrayzenoss> literally 5 minutes ago
[11-May-2009 16:36:45] <ke4qqq> cool
[11-May-2009 16:37:52] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: we're staying at the James F. Martin Inn
[11-May-2009 16:38:19] <zen_user> <mrayzenoss> then take the IPs and feed them into another script to convert them, with the followup from that thread
[11-May-2009 16:38:30] <zen_user> what follow up i see the script
[11-May-2009 16:38:48] <ke4qqq> ahhh - that's a VERY nice place!
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[11-May-2009 16:55:50] <mrayzenoss> ke4qqq: awww, we just got rejected by the James F. Martin Inn
[11-May-2009 16:57:46] <ke4qqq> you're kidding - why?
[11-May-2009 16:58:34] <ke4qqq> mrayzenoss: how many rooms do you need?
[11-May-2009 16:59:13] <mrayzenoss> it's full. we need 2
[11-May-2009 17:12:43] <MichaelGG> hi
[11-May-2009 17:22:15] <MichaelGG> With 2.4, it's feasible to monitor windows without SNMP, correct? WMI will handle it all?
[11-May-2009 17:22:50] <mrayzenoss> not with Zenoss Core
[11-May-2009 17:22:57] <MichaelGG> ohhh
[11-May-2009 17:23:05] <MichaelGG> gotcha
[11-May-2009 17:23:17] <mrayzenoss> the WMI supplements the crappy SNMP from Microsoft
[11-May-2009 17:23:36] <MichaelGG> Now, for a small company, is Pro/enterprise a possibility? the page seems to indicate I need to license about $10K worth a year, and I only have like 10 servers.
[11-May-2009 17:24:09] <mrayzenoss> not really. We don't have the support staff to handle lots of small installations, sorry
[11-May-2009 17:24:25] <MichaelGG> So, if we want full WMI, but no support, we're out of luck
[11-May-2009 17:24:32] <MichaelGG> We got fed up with System Center Essentials and are trynna find something else
[11-May-2009 18:00:26] <gemineye> rocket: You said earlier that my hope to monitor up/down statuses sent from zencommand could be done but would be difficult. How difficult would it be?
[11-May-2009 19:43:36] <rocket> gemineye: it depends on how much of python programmer you are and/or how good you are at modifying web templates
[11-May-2009 19:43:53] <rocket> gemineye: you will have to decipher the developers guide
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[12-May-2009 08:40:23] <cccharles> can anybody tell me how long enterprise releases are supported?
[12-May-2009 08:44:31] <cccharles> i.e., now that 2.4 is out what version is being EOL'd?
[12-May-2009 08:46:13] <rmatte> I'm pretty sure that if you hunt around on the Zenoss website they have some sales@zenoss.com or something that you can send that question to
[12-May-2009 08:49:32] <cccharles> rmatte: thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm a little surprised that the 2.4 release announcements haven't said anything like 'supported until 2011' or something...
[12-May-2009 08:54:50] <rmatte> I don't think Zenoss really have an EOL though they encourage upgrades since upgrades are free (well, even if you're a paying customer they are provided without any additional cost, as long as you're paying the yearly fee)
[12-May-2009 08:58:03] <rmatte> ok, so I see that I can add python scripts as columns in reports...
[12-May-2009 08:58:13] <rmatte> but I'm trying to wrap my mind around the formatting
[12-May-2009 08:58:15] <rmatte> return ','.join([ s.name() for s in context.os.ipservices() if s.monitored() ])
[12-May-2009 08:58:18] <rmatte> that's the example
[12-May-2009 08:58:42] <rmatte> now what if I want to create a column that displays the IP address of each device?
[12-May-2009 08:59:10] <rmatte> is there any place in Zope where I can see a listing of values that I can poll?
[12-May-2009 09:22:01] <jb> mornin.
[12-May-2009 09:26:40] <rocket> morning jb
[12-May-2009 09:26:46] <jb>
[12-May-2009 09:35:27] <rocket> morning matt
[12-May-2009 09:36:01] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[12-May-2009 09:36:07] <slestak> what is the quickst was to disable a zenpack without uninstalling it? Reset Bindings on the class?
[12-May-2009 09:36:30] <slestak> ive got very high cpu trying to process wmi data, so I think i need to check fewer machines
[12-May-2009 09:37:04] <jb> yes
[12-May-2009 09:37:58] <slestak> after doing that, teh wmic process is still running liek gangbusters. should I restart zenwin?
[12-May-2009 09:39:49] <jb> yeah, probably
[12-May-2009 09:40:19] <slestak> thx
[12-May-2009 09:42:50] <slestak> hmm, still running.
[12-May-2009 09:43:29] <slestak> think i'll reboot the machine
[12-May-2009 09:44:31] <slestak> think i will try monitoring same machines with informant, see if it scales better
[12-May-2009 09:45:08] <slestak> im only checking about 40 windows servers
[12-May-2009 10:11:15] <rmatte> Zenoss is missing a ton of Products so I'm getting OIDs in the place of Product Model all the time, is there a zenpack floating around that has all of the different products?
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[12-May-2009 10:28:16] <rmatte> hmmm, any way to import the CISCO-PRODUCTS-MIB entries to "Products"?
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[12-May-2009 10:31:08] <rmatte> ok, weird
[12-May-2009 10:31:31] <rmatte> I model devices that are clearly listed in Products with the correct OID, but it still shows the OID as the Model
[12-May-2009 10:31:42] <rmatte> is this some bug that was fixed in 2.4 or something?
[12-May-2009 10:32:04] <rmatte> some work, some don't
[12-May-2009 10:51:20] <rmatte> anyone?
[12-May-2009 11:30:48] <rmatte> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9720
[12-May-2009 11:31:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - When I model devices, devices show the model as an OID (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 11:31:05] <rhettlap> rmatte, add the model you'd like do the product list and attache the appropriate oid?
[12-May-2009 11:31:14] <rhettlap> attach rather
[12-May-2009 11:31:16] <rmatte> rhettlap: they are already all in there
[12-May-2009 11:31:17] <rmatte> I checked
[12-May-2009 11:31:23] <rhettlap> ah
[12-May-2009 11:31:43] <rhettlap> well i dont know then! just a guess. most of my stuff i have to add in manually
[12-May-2009 11:32:08] <rmatte> yeh, this is all Cisco gear and Zenoss already has most of it
[12-May-2009 11:32:32] <rmatte> there are a couple of firewalls and stuff that it might not have, but for the most part, it should be getting like 99% of this
[12-May-2009 11:32:38] <rmatte> that's why it's strange that it's not
[12-May-2009 11:33:59] <rhettlap> so if u go to the edit tab of the device and set the model # it still shows an oid?
[12-May-2009 11:34:33] <rmatte> If I were to manually set it, no
[12-May-2009 11:34:40] <rmatte> but we're talking over a hundred devices here
[12-May-2009 11:34:58] <rhettlap> yeah. i was just curious if you set it manuall then re modeled what would happen
[12-May-2009 11:35:15] <rmatte> If I remodelled it would probably pull the OID back down
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[12-May-2009 11:37:14] <rhettlap> have u tried manually snmpwalking a problem device using system (i.e. snmpwalk -v 2c -c community IPORHOSTNAME system) and seeing if anything w/ the model appears
[12-May-2009 11:37:36] <rhettlap> its usually on the descr line
[12-May-2009 11:38:20] <rmatte> yeh, the description line has model info
[12-May-2009 11:38:24] <rhettlap> obviously replace 2c w/ 1 or 3 if needed
[12-May-2009 11:39:04] <rhettlap> i am really shooting in the dark here but is it in all caps
[12-May-2009 11:39:12] <rhettlap> if its not just a set of numbers
[12-May-2009 11:39:29] <rmatte> the description line?
[12-May-2009 11:39:46] <rhettlap> the model number
[12-May-2009 11:39:57] <rhettlap> just curious if it was an issue w/ letter cases
[12-May-2009 11:40:07] <rhettlap> but like i said i have no idea. im just guessing at this point
[12-May-2009 11:40:19] <rmatte> this one that I'm looking at right now is just set as "2811" in Products
[12-May-2009 11:40:28] <rmatte> but all I get is the OID displayed when I model
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[12-May-2009 11:40:57] <rhettlap> and you're running 2.3?
[12-May-2009 11:41:01] <rmatte> 2.3.3
[12-May-2009 11:41:02] <rmatte> correct
[12-May-2009 11:42:51] <rhettlap> ok
[12-May-2009 11:43:43] <rocket> rmatte: there is a bug in 2.3.3 that will cause that
[12-May-2009 11:43:56] <rocket> rmatte: I believe 2.4 has the fix in it
[12-May-2009 11:44:23] <rocket> rmatte: I havent checked for it but I believe that bug is closed
[12-May-2009 11:45:15] <rocket> rmatte: there are additional patches coming to make that even more automatic but I am not sure where they will fall on the roadmap
[12-May-2009 11:45:20] <rhettlap> well that would be nice if that were the case
[12-May-2009 11:46:06] <rhettlap> i was just going to say to make sure you the appropriate MIB loaded since you're not getting translated OID's
[12-May-2009 11:52:03] <rmatte> ok cool
[12-May-2009 11:52:21] <rmatte> the translation of the product OIDs has nothing to do with MIBS
[12-May-2009 11:52:27] <rmatte> Mibs are only used to translate traps
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[12-May-2009 11:54:10] <rmatte> In Zenoss anyways
[12-May-2009 12:00:04] <rmatte> I am really really looking forward to King Crab, I'm sure a lot of these annoyances will be fixed by then
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[12-May-2009 12:05:19] <mrayzenoss> King Crab? We just put out Blue Crab...
[12-May-2009 12:05:22] <mrayzenoss>
[12-May-2009 12:05:25] <rmatte> I know, just saying
[12-May-2009 12:05:46] <rmatte> there's still stuff that needs fixin'
[12-May-2009 12:05:59] <rmatte> apparently now there's some geocache issue in 2.4?
[12-May-2009 12:06:21] <rmatte> saw a couple of people posting about it
[12-May-2009 12:06:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, 2.4.1 should fix the map issues
[12-May-2009 12:06:29] <rmatte> cool
[12-May-2009 12:06:31] <mrayzenoss> shooting for tomorrow
[12-May-2009 12:06:39] <rmatte> excellent
[12-May-2009 12:06:39] * mrayzenoss fingers crossed
[12-May-2009 12:06:57] <rmatte> can you confirm that the product mapping as oids instead of the actual product name is fixed?
[12-May-2009 12:07:18] <rmatte> my boss is breathing down my neck to fix that
[12-May-2009 12:07:26] <rmatte> lol
[12-May-2009 12:11:19] <rmatte> is there any way to patch 2.3.3 in the mean time for that product OID issue?
[12-May-2009 12:35:06] <rmatte> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4159
[12-May-2009 12:35:16] <rmatte> * milestone changed from zenoss-2.4.0 to King_Crab
[12-May-2009 12:35:19] <rmatte> yikes
[12-May-2009 12:36:55] <rmatte> looks like it didn't make the cut
[12-May-2009 12:37:13] <venturaville> anyone know why I get this:
[12-May-2009 12:37:18] <venturaville> AttributeError: 'VMDevice' object has no attribute 'primaryAq'
[12-May-2009 12:54:04] <rmatte> venturaville: when/where exactly are you seeing that?
[12-May-2009 12:55:17] <gemineye> mrayzenoss, I've applied 3 patches so far, 2 were for mapping issues. Are there more patches I can apply? I'd rather not go through the whole process of upgrading if patches are available.
[12-May-2009 12:56:13] <mrayzenoss> gemineye: I believe 2.4.1 has 2 map patches, 1 snmp patch and an installer fix for OSX
[12-May-2009 12:56:25] <mrayzenoss> and 1 internal ticket for distributed collectors
[12-May-2009 12:56:45] <mrayzenoss> so if you're not on OSX, you're good
[12-May-2009 12:56:50] <mrayzenoss> with 1 more patch
[12-May-2009 12:56:56] <Pr1meHaxor> someone using the mysql zenpack?
[12-May-2009 12:57:18] <gemineye> ok, I got the 2 map ones and the one mentioned in the release notes.
[12-May-2009 12:57:30] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, that one too
[12-May-2009 12:57:51] <gemineye> What's the ticket number for the SNMP patch?
[12-May-2009 12:59:03] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4988
[12-May-2009 13:01:56] <venturaville> myrazenoss: any progress on allowing templates to be edited in zope (especially in regards to reports)?
[12-May-2009 13:08:50] <mrayzenoss> I haven't seen anything about that recently, was there a ticket?
[12-May-2009 13:09:37] <venturaville> yeah I put one in some number of weeks ago
[12-May-2009 13:11:57] <venturaville> apparently the same as a number of bug tickets I am seeing in the bug tracker
[12-May-2009 13:12:10] <venturaville> like this one: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2621093&group_id=163126&atid=826503
[12-May-2009 13:12:32] <adytum-bot> Title: SourceForge.net: Zenoss Core - Enterprise IT Monitoring: Detail: 2621093 - "Zenoss Error" Page when adding a new report (at sourceforge.net)
[12-May-2009 13:13:26] <mrayzenoss> yeah, we're not going to fix issues with Zope directly
[12-May-2009 13:13:30] <rmatte> venturaville: you can edit reports in Zope, if you want to get down and dirty with coding
[12-May-2009 13:21:16] <venturaville> rmatte: I've been trying, but it errors out saying it cannot find the report anytime I try and save them ........
[12-May-2009 13:25:11] <rmatte> odd
[12-May-2009 13:28:51] <venturaville> http://zenossserver:8080/zport/dmd/Reports/manage
[12-May-2009 13:29:03] <venturaville> Add Page Template
[12-May-2009 13:29:06] <venturaville> Id=test123
[12-May-2009 13:29:15] <venturaville> Add
[12-May-2009 13:29:18] <venturaville> Save Changes
[12-May-2009 13:29:20] <venturaville> gets:
[12-May-2009 13:29:35] <venturaville> An error was encountered while publishing this resource. The requested resource does not exist.
[12-May-2009 13:29:53] <venturaville> and fails in pt_changePrefs form with pt_editAction='Save Changes'
[12-May-2009 13:30:11] <venturaville> but oddly enough it claims Authenticated_User='Anonymous User'
[12-May-2009 13:30:14] <venturaville> very odd
[12-May-2009 13:30:23] <venturaville> since the header claims I am logged in as admin
[12-May-2009 13:44:01] <sergeymasushko> hi 2 all. someone tried to setup zenoss with the LDAP on the FreeBSD?
[12-May-2009 14:04:23] <rmatte> zenoss with LDAP on FreeBSD should be no different than on Linux
[12-May-2009 14:04:45] <rmatte> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/
[12-May-2009 14:05:05] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 14:36:44] <venturaville1> >>> print dev.getRRDDataPoints()
[12-May-2009 14:36:45] <venturaville1> [<RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/rrdTemplates/Device/datasources/sysUpTime/datapoints/sysUpTime>, <RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/Chassis/HPBladeChassis/rrdTemplates/HPBladeChassis/datasources/getpower/datapoints/TotalCurPwrOutput>, <RRDDataPoint at /zport/dmd/Devices/Chassis/HPBladeChassis/rrdTemplates/HPBladeChassis/datasources/getpower/datapoints/TotalMaxPwrOutput>]
[12-May-2009 14:37:04] <venturaville1> say I have those data points... how do I get at the actual value for them?
[12-May-2009 14:41:56] <rmatte> you might want to explain a little more in depth what exactly you're trying to accomplish
[12-May-2009 14:45:24] <venturaville1> trying to get access to the raw value in the RRD for that RRD Datapoint
[12-May-2009 14:45:40] <venturaville1> though someone else just pointed out that I was making it harder than was necessary :-P
[12-May-2009 14:45:54] <rmatte> well, the RRD datapoints that you just pasted are just data points in templates
[12-May-2009 14:46:01] <rmatte> so they won't contain actual values
[12-May-2009 14:46:05] <venturaville1> >>> dev.getRRDValue('TotalCurPwrOutput')
[12-May-2009 14:46:05] <venturaville1> 698.50999999999999
[12-May-2009 14:46:28] <rmatte> ah, you can do that against any device?
[12-May-2009 14:48:44] <venturaville1> it would seem so
[12-May-2009 14:49:08] <rmatte> what I need to figure out is how to collect the RRD values for each process being monitored
[12-May-2009 14:49:16] <rmatte> for cpu, memory, and process count
[12-May-2009 14:49:20] <rmatte> then create a report from them
[12-May-2009 14:53:26] <venturaville1> >>> devices.findDevice('mon8db1').os.processes()
[12-May-2009 14:53:26] <venturaville1> [<OSProcess at /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/mon8db1/os/processes/opt_opsware_agent_bin_python>, <OSProcess at /zport/dmd/Devices/Server/Linux/devices/mon8db1/os/processes/usr_sbin_snmpd 5ec8cf3294402a4983e5f4cdec36b36b>]
[12-May-2009 14:53:35] <venturaville1> rmatte: that would seem to be what you want
[12-May-2009 15:02:58] <mrayzenoss_> perr0: are you running 2.4?
[12-May-2009 15:03:21] <perr0> ya in Linux
[12-May-2009 15:03:31] <mrayzenoss_> ahh, looking for a FreeBSD user
[12-May-2009 15:03:34] <mrayzenoss_> on 2.4
[12-May-2009 15:03:41] <perr0> no I will do the install this evening
[12-May-2009 15:04:19] <perr0> actually I will start the install process shortly
[12-May-2009 15:04:20] <mrayzenoss_> well, we're QA'ing 2.4.1 right now, so don't get too attached to 2.4
[12-May-2009 15:04:30] <perr0> k
[12-May-2009 15:04:49] <mrayzenoss_> but I'm wondering about http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34671
[12-May-2009 15:05:00] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - An issue with fonts after upgrade to 2.4.0 (at forums.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 15:05:46] <rmatte> you included a dependency that doesn't get installed along with Zenoss?
[12-May-2009 15:05:48] <rmatte> lol
[12-May-2009 15:06:17] <perr0> that happened to me when I upgraded from 2.3 to 2.4 and lost my connection to mysql
[12-May-2009 15:06:40] <rmatte> if it depends on those fonts they should be installed in 1 static location no matter what system, and they should come packaged with Zenoss
[12-May-2009 15:07:15] <rmatte> the reason sergeymasushko is probably having problems in FreeBSD is because FreeBSD installs stuff in different locations/paths than Linux in most cases
[12-May-2009 15:08:15] <mrayzenoss_> good point
[12-May-2009 15:08:45] <mrayzenoss_> I think it's included in the stack, vmware and depended on by the rpms. Guess the source build got overlooked
[12-May-2009 15:08:57] <mrayzenoss_> digging into it, since I don't have the issue on my source build
[12-May-2009 15:09:23] <rmatte> ah
[12-May-2009 15:09:43] <rmatte> I love the stack installer myself
[12-May-2009 15:09:48] <mrayzenoss_> I don't have Liberation fonts on my source install
[12-May-2009 15:10:01] <rmatte> hmmm
[12-May-2009 15:10:25] <rmatte> do "locate liberation"
[12-May-2009 15:10:32] <rmatte> maybe they are sitting around somewhere
[12-May-2009 15:10:48] <rmatte> updatedb && locate liberation
[12-May-2009 15:10:49] <rmatte> rather
[12-May-2009 15:10:56] <sergeymasushko> where is installed liberation in the linux?
[12-May-2009 15:16:45] <perr0> oh lawd freebsd is up to 7.2
[12-May-2009 15:20:15] <perr0> I am going to move my zenoss box from linux to freebsd 7.2 this evening just for the heck of it, see how it goes..
[12-May-2009 15:23:38] <sergeymasushko> on the FreeBSD liberation is located here /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/
[12-May-2009 15:25:25] <perr0> sergeymasushko: is this set up for your work?
[12-May-2009 15:27:42] <sergeymasushko> it is my current installation, but it doesn't work.
[12-May-2009 15:28:25] <perr0> some guy had a similar problem with his freebsd set up last night
[12-May-2009 15:29:17] <rmatte> see, Linux usually stores fonts in /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[12-May-2009 15:29:25] <rmatte> instead of /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts
[12-May-2009 15:29:30] <rmatte> maybe if you move it there?
[12-May-2009 15:29:37] <perr0> create a link?
[12-May-2009 15:29:42] <rmatte> yeh, you could
[12-May-2009 15:29:45] <rmatte> ln -s whatever
[12-May-2009 15:30:10] <perr0> ln -s current/ newdir/
[12-May-2009 15:30:22] <perr0> can you try that sergeymasushko
[12-May-2009 15:30:40] <perr0> but where in zenoss does it look for this file?
[12-May-2009 15:31:03] <perr0> before you make this link, I guess it doesn't hurt to try
[12-May-2009 15:32:24] <rmatte> well, it wouldn't really be zenoss looking for the file, it'd be rrdtool I'd imagine
[12-May-2009 15:32:31] <rmatte> since that's what actually produces the graph
[12-May-2009 15:32:34] <rmatte> but I could be wrong
[12-May-2009 15:35:19] <sergeymasushko> should I create a link to /usr/share/fonts/X11/ or /usr/share/fonts/X11/Liberation/ ?
[12-May-2009 15:35:36] <perr0> it doesn't hurt
[12-May-2009 15:35:42] <perr0> I don't see why you would have to
[12-May-2009 15:36:12] <rmatte> just make sure that the fonts are linked to their own folder in /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[12-May-2009 15:45:34] <sergeymasushko> which daemon should I restart?
[12-May-2009 15:50:17] <gemineye> mrayzenoss: That change over took a whopping 14 seconds. I'd really like to see you get that under 10.
[12-May-2009 15:50:32] <davidX_> kind of weird, i'm trying to upgrade to 2.4 and i'm getting these errors http://pastebin.com/m62bea153
[12-May-2009 15:50:42] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[12-May-2009 15:50:54] <davidX_> has anyone else experienced this on centos 5.x ?
[12-May-2009 15:51:28] <gemineye> Mine was clean when I did it. I went from 2.3.3 to 2.4 on CentOS 5.2 and 5.3
[12-May-2009 15:51:42] <davidX_> i'm currently running 2.3.3
[12-May-2009 15:56:50] <mrayzenoss> davidX_ are you downgrading from 2.4.0 to 2.3.3?
[12-May-2009 16:00:08] <rmatte> you might as well just wait a few days until 2.4.1 comes out
[12-May-2009 16:00:31] <mrayzenoss> it appears to be firming up for tomorrow morning (no promises)
[12-May-2009 16:00:38] <mrayzenoss> I gotta disclaimer myself
[12-May-2009 16:00:38] <rmatte> cool
[12-May-2009 16:00:42] <rmatte> hehe
[12-May-2009 16:00:55] * rmatte slaps a disclaimer on mrayzenoss' forehead
[12-May-2009 16:00:58] <rmatte> there you go
[12-May-2009 16:00:59] <davidX_> i realized what it was, not enough caffeine
[12-May-2009 16:01:05] <davidX_> was running -ivh not -Uvh
[12-May-2009 16:01:06] <sergeymasushko> ln -s /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation /usr/share/fonts/X11/ fixes the problem
[12-May-2009 16:01:11] <sergeymasushko> thanks
[12-May-2009 16:01:29] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: could you post that to your forum post? I'll get it into a ticket
[12-May-2009 16:01:31] <mrayzenoss> for FreeBSD
[12-May-2009 16:01:49] <sergeymasushko> ok
[12-May-2009 16:03:05] <sergeymasushko> done
[12-May-2009 16:11:13] <rmatte> nice
[12-May-2009 16:11:16] <rmatte> glad it worked
[12-May-2009 16:19:07] <rhettlap> hello
[12-May-2009 16:19:18] <perr0> good job sergeymasushko
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[12-May-2009 16:32:25] <mrayzenoss> serge: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006
[12-May-2009 16:45:33] <serge> mrayzenoss: Matt, do you know when dependencies will be implemented via web interface? are developers going to work with it for king krab?
[12-May-2009 16:57:01] <mrayzenoss> King Crab is getting estimates for the sizes of the different tasks right now
[12-May-2009 16:57:15] <mrayzenoss> the dependencies would probably fall into the UI overhaul
[12-May-2009 16:58:01] <rmatte> dependencies via web interface, report config through web interface, and more powerful templates would be golden
[12-May-2009 16:58:26] <mrayzenoss> after the estimates are firmed up, then it comes down to prioritization
[12-May-2009 16:58:32] <mrayzenoss> there are only 5 developers
[12-May-2009 16:59:22] <mrayzenoss> the UI overhaul is slated to take 2 of them 2 entire release cycles
[12-May-2009 16:59:52] <mrayzenoss> and it hasn't even been accepted yet
[12-May-2009 17:01:20] <mrayzenoss> we're always open to patches though
[12-May-2009 17:01:21] <mrayzenoss>
[12-May-2009 17:01:40] <serge>
[12-May-2009 17:05:29] <mrayzenoss> later folks, see you tomorrow
[12-May-2009 17:05:47] <rmatte> later
[12-May-2009 18:06:45] <pgega> hello
[12-May-2009 18:06:55] <pgega> any way to use zenoss with nrpe
[12-May-2009 18:07:03] <pgega> ?
[12-May-2009 18:25:47] <gene_> Hi all, I've been working on getting the LDAP authentication working in zenoss ( http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ). It works great and have been using it for a while now, but I've been unable to get the automatic mapping of LDAP/AD groups to roles. I've followed the instructions, everything looks good. When I go into the zope interface and view the contents of the cached ldap queries ( http://hostname:8080/zport
[12-May-2009 18:26:20] <adytum-bot> Title: HowTo use LDAP/ActiveDirectory for Authentication and Authorization - Commercial Open Source Application, Systems and Network Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[12-May-2009 18:27:38] <gene_> For example, after setting up the group to role mapping, I have a user in that group login to Zenoss. In the zope interface when looking at the cached users list (after the user logs in) it shows their roles as "Manager, ZenUser, Authenticated". When I go into the Zenoss... Settings... Users interface however. It shows them as only being a "ZenUser"
[12-May-2009 18:28:46] <gene_> Any thoughts on the connection between the zope backend authentication and roles, and the Zenoss internal "UserSettings" objects which I believe contain these users and role values?
[12-May-2009 18:32:21] <gene_> I'll try posting this up on the forums and see if anyone has ideas.
[12-May-2009 18:35:00] <gene_> ah looks like I'm not the first to encounter this ( http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9652 ). Guess it's a known problem.
[12-May-2009 18:35:10] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - LDAP group to Zope role mappings doesn't work (at forums.zenoss.com)
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[12-May-2009 19:48:26] <serge> I've installed DigMonitor zenpack (zenoss 2.4), binded a template to a device... but when I tried to open it I got the following:
[12-May-2009 19:48:27] <serge> http://pastebin.com/m1268d10d
[12-May-2009 20:41:00] <rmatte> weird, some devices went down and Zenoss isn't picking up on the fact that they are back up.
[12-May-2009 20:45:48] <serge> rmatte: what does zenhub log says?
[12-May-2009 20:46:42] <serge> rmatte: btw. can you manually move the event to the history?
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[12-May-2009 23:17:23] <etw_> i don't quite understand how devices can ignore/not report/suppress/etc events, can someone point me to how to do this?
[12-May-2009 23:27:31] <etw_> or auto-move-to-history
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[13-May-2009 00:16:22] <etw_> alternatively, how do i stop process monitoring on a per-device level?
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[13-May-2009 03:54:56] <tneupaney> URGENT! i cannot configure wmic in the clients
[13-May-2009 03:55:38] <tneupaney> I am using Ubuntu Jaunty
[13-May-2009 03:55:44] <tneupaney> Client has windows XP
[13-May-2009 08:50:17] <rmatte> I don't think he understood the concept of how WMI works
[13-May-2009 09:02:46] <rmatte> what would be the simplest way for me to implement dependencies in Zenoss (by simple I mean basically automated)
[13-May-2009 09:03:01] <rmatte> when a certain device goes down I don't want to be alerted for every single device behind it
[13-May-2009 09:03:25] <rmatte> for example, we have tunnels in to customer networks, when a tunnel drops to a particular customer we get flooded with over 300 events
[13-May-2009 09:26:55] <rocket> morning matt
[13-May-2009 09:30:18] <mrayzenoss> morning
[13-May-2009 09:31:31] <jb> hello
[13-May-2009 09:31:33] <jb>
[13-May-2009 09:31:34] <rmatte> ok, we have some vpn tunnels that don't have virtual interfaces associated with them, is there any way for Zenoss to monitor those?
[13-May-2009 10:57:42] <cgibbons> uhoh
[13-May-2009 11:00:52] <mrayzenoss> just spreading the wealth
[13-May-2009 12:17:29] <beanfield> Just upgraded zenoss 2.3.3 enterprise to zenoss 2.4.1 on Centos 5.3. I appears that no rrdfiles are created for any data sources that use zencommand
[13-May-2009 12:19:35] <beanfield> for instance, my httpmonitor data sources stopped graphing (across the board for all servers). I checked the rrdfiles and they stopped being updated. I removed them, restarted zencommand, and then ran "zencommand run -v10 -d DEVICENAME" and the rrd files are not recreated
[13-May-2009 12:20:12] <perr0> anything in the logs?
[13-May-2009 12:20:18] <beanfield> they all stopped graphing immediately after my upgrade. There are no errors from zencommand when I run it manually...nor are there any errors in the zencommand.log
[13-May-2009 12:21:47] <beanfield> hmm...running an strace on the zencommand pid
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999923}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999922}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999924}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:21:54] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 999921}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:22:10] <beanfield> over and over
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [6], [], {4, 999603}) = 1 (out [6], left {4, 999603})
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> sendto(6, "\7\200\32\207j\201\3\201\n\202sendEvents\1\201\2\200\v\207\2\200\10\207\7\200"..., 167, 0, NULL, 0) = 167
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 998902}) = 1 (in [6], left {4, 995000})
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> recvfrom(6, "\3\200\33\207j\201\1\201", 65536, 0, NULL, NULL) = 8
[13-May-2009 12:22:27] <beanfield> select(7, [4 6], [], [], {4, 995470}) = 0 (Timeout)
[13-May-2009 12:26:27] <beanfield> noticed this in zenhub "AttributeError: zSshConcurrentSessions"
[13-May-2009 12:26:35] <beanfield> for a number of devices
[13-May-2009 12:35:20] <beanfield> also....looking at the extended monitoring for version 2.4 guide, I see references to a zSshConcurrentSessions zproperty that can be set per device
[13-May-2009 12:35:33] <beanfield> but if I browse to my devices, I see no such zproperty.....
[13-May-2009 12:35:50] <beanfield> I'm thinking that zencommand is bombing out trying to read this non-existant zproperty
[13-May-2009 12:57:19] <mrayzenoss> beanfield: could you post that on a forum thread and I'll point a Dev at it?
[13-May-2009 13:37:40] <kalahari875> We attempted to upgrade our 2.3.3 zenoss-stack installation to 2.4. The installation succeeded, but the website would not function after the upgrade. It would not enumerate devices and showed a "Server communication error" error dialog in the bottom right of every screen.
[13-May-2009 13:38:05] <kalahari875> The daemons appeared to continue monitoring however.
[13-May-2009 13:38:38] <kalahari875> Seemed like a zeo communication problem but the zeo log shows no errors.
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> There are some errors in event.log like the following:
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> 2009-05-13T10:21:10 ERROR Zope Couldn't install Five
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 773, in install_product
[13-May-2009 13:39:33] <kalahari875> initmethod(context)
[13-May-2009 13:39:34] <kalahari875> ...
[13-May-2009 14:05:08] <mrayzenoss> could you post that in the forums with the event.log contents?
[13-May-2009 14:12:16] <kalahari875> Sure can
[13-May-2009 14:17:00] <kalahari875> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34740#34740
[13-May-2009 14:27:18] <mrayzenoss> kalahari875: did you install the LDAP stuff to your previous install?
[13-May-2009 14:28:35] <mrayzenoss> wondering if the new stack blew out your LDAP configuration
[13-May-2009 14:28:40] <kalahari875> Well
[13-May-2009 14:28:49] <kalahari875> I would think so, except it continued to function for login.
[13-May-2009 14:29:06] <kalahari875> I was able to go to the zope configuration for the acl_users node and manage that as well without error.
[13-May-2009 14:29:07] <mrayzenoss> any user besides Admin able to login?
[13-May-2009 14:29:10] <kalahari875> Oh yes
[13-May-2009 14:29:15] <kalahari875> All of our AD accounts continued working
[13-May-2009 14:29:44] <kalahari875> The LDAP plugins are the latest version from python.org as of last week
[13-May-2009 15:06:54] <mrayzenoss> were you following http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/how-to-authenticate-via-ldap/ ?
[13-May-2009 15:11:56] <beanfield> mrayzenoss: I just opened a ticket
[13-May-2009 15:12:12] <mrayzenoss> support or trac?
[13-May-2009 15:12:26] <beanfield> support
[13-May-2009 15:12:43] <mrayzenoss> cool, they'll get you fixed up and open a trac ticket if something is broken
[13-May-2009 15:12:53] <beanfield> awesome, thanks
[13-May-2009 15:13:47] <lunartear> any way to use nrpe with zenoss?
[13-May-2009 15:15:35] <mrayzenoss> we haven't really had a need to
[13-May-2009 15:15:41] <mrayzenoss> but I imagine it could be done
[13-May-2009 15:16:13] <mrayzenoss> we already support making remote calls on a box with SSH
[13-May-2009 15:16:44] <mrayzenoss> so you could just call the plugin or script on the other box via SSH
[13-May-2009 15:17:30] <mrayzenoss> that said, I guess you could also call check_nrpe as a local command
[13-May-2009 15:18:27] <lunartear> I thought one of the benefits of direct nrpe was it was less overhead?
[13-May-2009 15:19:02] <mrayzenoss> won't there be less overhead not running an nrpe agent at all?
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[13-May-2009 22:47:22] <perr0> the freebsd install doc is funly
[13-May-2009 22:47:27] <perr0> funky
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[14-May-2009 03:20:21] <richardldn> would appreciate it if someone could help me with a wmi issue in 2.4
[14-May-2009 03:22:08] <richardldn> simply put I am unable to model devices using wmi which results in the following error "Failed to connect host 192.168.213.82 on port 2134 - NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED Failed to connect host 192.168.213.82 ((null)) on port 2134 - NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED. " wmic access does work when using a local hosts file
[14-May-2009 03:25:22] <richardldn> the connection itself is through a nat which is what I suspect is causing the issue. Is there any way of debugging this modelling process?
[14-May-2009 04:40:37] <richardldn> does anyone know how to configure zenoss to communicate with devices using there hostname and not ip address?
[14-May-2009 04:56:42] <Appiah_> does it not work as long as it can reach it by it's hostname?
[14-May-2009 05:52:12] <richardldn> I suspect it actually communicates with the device directly using the management ip address not by using it's hostname
[14-May-2009 09:24:24] <perr0> good day Matt, just a brief Q? Did the guy trying to install 2.4 on freebsd ever get it working? He had some type of issue with gettext? Ran into the same thing..
[14-May-2009 09:24:53] <perr0> did a brief search in the forums I'll go back there in a bit
[14-May-2009 09:26:35] <sergeymasushko> perr0: hi, do you mean fonts?
[14-May-2009 09:26:40] <sergeymasushko> for rrd
[14-May-2009 09:29:21] <perr0> sergeymasushko: Hi, hm.. Was I the one who suggested to head over to ##freebsd for assistance and they told you it was a python issue?
[14-May-2009 09:31:52] <perr0> I am checking my history now sorry
[14-May-2009 09:32:29] <sergeymasushko> no
[14-May-2009 09:32:31] <sergeymasushko>
[14-May-2009 09:33:39] <perr0> ok I see this was a user called caseyh20
[14-May-2009 09:59:40] <mrayzenoss> Good morning/afternoon/evening everybody. mrchippy and I will be here today, perhaps more Zenossians will drop in as well
[14-May-2009 10:02:57] <__ian__> Wow, Zenoss dev dept nearly 100% represented here.
[14-May-2009 10:03:48] <mrayzenoss> except the guy who's really supposed to be here
[14-May-2009 10:04:10] <__ian__> Throw something at him.
[14-May-2009 10:04:53] <burlyscudd> mrayzenoss: yo
[14-May-2009 10:04:56] <mrchippy> don't know where he is. he's off getting his pituitary injections.
[14-May-2009 10:05:25] <mrayzenoss> so far it's just Zenoss folks talking to Zenoss folks... so how's Canada Ian?
[14-May-2009 10:05:28] <sergeymasushko> I tried to install a dig monitor zenpack... binded template to a device, but when I tried to open the template I got an error, someone tried this zenpack on 2.4?
[14-May-2009 10:07:11] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: What's the error?
[14-May-2009 10:09:45] <sergeymasushko> __ian__: http://pastebin.com/d4d63a3cf
[14-May-2009 10:10:10] <jb> hello
[14-May-2009 10:10:34] <kalahari8751> I need some guidance on if we are overloading zencommand. We have a schedule with 1166 commands. Recently we've been getting large gaps in our perf graphs. Running the individual templates with zencommand run -v10 -d <device> always succeeds, but I have devices right now where the graphs are very spotty.
[14-May-2009 10:12:44] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: Did you restart Zope after installing the pack?
[14-May-2009 10:13:19] <sergeymasushko> no
[14-May-2009 10:13:26] <__ian__> give that a try.
[14-May-2009 10:15:17] <cgibbons> when in doubt
[14-May-2009 10:15:59] <__ian__> Well, when you get broken ZenPack errors of any kind, good bet it's because Zope needs a restart to pick up the new code.
[14-May-2009 10:16:08] <__ian__> Or that something is legitimately broken, of course.
[14-May-2009 10:17:27] <rocket> Hey Guys
[14-May-2009 10:19:44] <mrayzenoss> woohoo, all 5 developers are here
[14-May-2009 10:20:09] <rocket> damn and I dont really have any questions for them at this point
[14-May-2009 10:20:11] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is slowly creeping out
[14-May-2009 10:20:17] <jb> bleh
[14-May-2009 10:20:19] <bedwards> i'm here now. presentation to sales ran long.
[14-May-2009 10:20:21] <jb> internet problems
[14-May-2009 10:20:27] <jb> you guys got any packet loss to google right now?
[14-May-2009 10:20:46] <mrchippy> aha
[14-May-2009 10:21:30] <mrchippy> sorry wrong window
[14-May-2009 10:22:10] <__ian__> Yeah, google is hurting at the moment. Twitter's aflame with reports.
[14-May-2009 10:22:20] <jb> yeah its probably not google
[14-May-2009 10:22:28] <jb> looks like theres some core routing gone bad
[14-May-2009 10:26:08] <kalahari8751> Sorry if poor etiquette--anyone see my question about zencommand?
[14-May-2009 10:26:37] <mrayzenoss> kalahari8751: go ahead and repost so bedwards can take a look
[14-May-2009 10:26:44] <kalahari8751> I need some guidance on if we are overloading zencommand. We have a schedule with 1166 commands. Recently we've been getting large gaps in our perf graphs. Running the individual templates with zencommand run -v10 -d <device> always succeeds, but I have devices right now where the graphs are very spotty.
[14-May-2009 10:27:13] <rocket> kalahari8751: what is the load on the system? eg is the processor busy etc?
[14-May-2009 10:27:26] <kalahari8751> Ran an strace on zencommand and it seems to be working. Don't know how to diagnose. 4 proc machine, load numbers average about 1.7.
[14-May-2009 10:28:25] <rocket> seems reasonable
[14-May-2009 10:28:29] <kalahari8751> Yeah
[14-May-2009 10:28:49] <kalahari8751> It spikes sometimes but overall load is low
[14-May-2009 10:29:05] <kalahari8751> Can't correlate the gaps in the graphs with load conditions
[14-May-2009 10:29:17] <rocket> kalahari8751: have you run zencommand stop;zencommand start -v 10 and then looked at the zencommand log?
[14-May-2009 10:29:34] <sergeymasushko> how to allow zenoss' users logint to zenoss.bla-bla-bla.net/manage ?
[14-May-2009 10:29:50] <kalahari8751> rocket: no, can do though
[14-May-2009 10:30:25] <rocket> kalahari8751: that will give verbose output when running against all your commands at once .. might find something in the logs then
[14-May-2009 10:30:49] <bedwards> are there any errors in zencommand.log?
[14-May-2009 10:31:55] <kalahari8751> bedwards: No, log looks completely normal. Mostly filled with "schedule has x commands" messages.
[14-May-2009 10:32:47] <rocket> kalahari8751: normal even with the -v10 logging?
[14-May-2009 10:33:35] <kalahari8751> rocket: just restarted zencommand; output is flying by w/results from commands
[14-May-2009 10:34:00] <kalahari8751> Seeing success msgs, lots of rrd storing
[14-May-2009 10:35:48] <kalahari8751> rocket: haven't seen a single error. Output looks like success output I see when running against an individual device.
[14-May-2009 10:36:00] <rocket> kalahari8751: what type of commands are you running?
[14-May-2009 10:36:17] <rocket> kalahari8751: could it be a case where it cannot connect to the remote machine?
[14-May-2009 10:36:36] <rocket> kalahari8751: eg the remote machine is rejecting etc
[14-May-2009 10:37:04] <kalahari8751> rocket: no, they nearly always work unless there's a known condition (system down, WMI problem, etc.). Most are wmic calls or remote winexe exec calls.
[14-May-2009 10:37:29] <kalahari8751> rocket: they are all succeeding.
[14-May-2009 10:38:01] <rocket> has the zenoss machine been restarted lately?
[14-May-2009 10:38:29] <kalahari8751> 11:38:20 up 7 days
[14-May-2009 10:38:44] <rocket> and the graphs have been goofy all 7 days?
[14-May-2009 10:39:03] <rocket> kalahari8751: network issues? causing failures before maybe?
[14-May-2009 10:39:14] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is now out
[14-May-2009 10:40:41] <kalahari8751> rocket: We're not seeing network problems. Like I said, zencommand run -v10 -d device always works, but I have graphs that look very gappy. The reason I think it might be load on zencommand is because: last week manager came in looking for some graphs and we saw that they were mostly not painting.
[14-May-2009 10:41:10] <kalahari8751> rocket: I found on that template someone had set a datasource to every 30 seconds cycle time. I fixed that (to 300 seconds) and graphs started painting.
[14-May-2009 10:41:30] <rocket> kalahari8751: sorry I am just trying to make sure I have asked everything I would normally ask when troubleshooting ..
[14-May-2009 10:42:01] <kalahari8751> rocket: np. Also, I had a device class w/3 perf templates bound, that was working fine. I edited one template and added one new command datasource and two of the perf templates just stopped producing graphs.
[14-May-2009 10:42:40] <kalahari8751> rocket: I disabled this new datasource, but those two are still not producing graphs. Curiously, the third seems fine. However, zencommand run -v10 -d device always collects all of them.
[14-May-2009 10:44:17] <rocket> any spaces etc in the datasource items .. eg .. I found in my troubleshooting I had a space in the datasource .. but zencommand didnt have the space
[14-May-2009 10:44:36] <rocket> kalahari8751: and I had to open each datasource individually and look for leading spaces
[14-May-2009 10:44:49] <kalahari8751> rocket: zenoss version is 2.3.3. Tried a 2.4 upgrade but had to revert, that issue is posted in forums. These problems predated the upgrade attempt however. Yes--there are datasources with spaces.
[14-May-2009 10:44:57] <rocket> kalahari8751: my zencommands collected data but then never updated the rrd file in that case
[14-May-2009 10:45:29] <kalahari8751> rocket: Ahhhh, that may be it. Crap, there's no rename function that doesn't break graphs.
[14-May-2009 10:45:35] <rocket> just make sure the zencommand output matches the datasource definition of the name
[14-May-2009 10:47:40] <rocket> wow it is awefully quiet today
[14-May-2009 10:47:58] <mrayzenoss> yeah, everyone must be sad about the Google outage
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> rocket: well, it seems to be respecting the spaces: DEBUG:zen.zencommand:Queueing event {'manager': 'localhost', 'eventKey': 'CitrixAppLaunch', 'device': 'devicename', 'eventClass': '/Cmd/Fail', 'summary': 'OK', 'component': 'Citrix App Launch', 'agent': 'zencommand', 'severity': 0}
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> DEBUG:zen.zencommand:storing connectionTime = 4.966 in: Devices/devicename/Citrix App Launch_connectionTime
[14-May-2009 10:48:00] <kalahari8751> DEBUG:zen.RRDUtil:/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/perf/Devices/devicename/Citrix App Launch_connectionTime.rrd: 4.9660000000000002
[14-May-2009 10:48:22] <perr0> is it really an outage?
[14-May-2009 10:48:40] <rocket> kalahari8751: my issue was something like Citrix App Launch_ connectionTime
[14-May-2009 10:48:41] <mrayzenoss> dunno, I'm sure we'll hear something about it once it clears up
[14-May-2009 10:49:00] <rocket> kalahari8751: eg there was a " connectionTime" defined in my data source
[14-May-2009 10:49:01] <kalahari8751> rocket: OK, so the problem may be the space in the data source name?
[14-May-2009 10:49:07] <kalahari8751> OK
[14-May-2009 10:49:09] <kalahari8751> Well
[14-May-2009 10:49:18] <rocket> kalahari8751: but that doesnt seem to be your issue
[14-May-2009 10:49:22] <kalahari8751> rocket: I don't have that issue
[14-May-2009 10:49:49] <rocket> kalahari8751: I would wait and see if it keeps happening with the extended output
[14-May-2009 10:49:52] <kalahari8751> rocket: I don't have any datapoints with spaces, just datasources
[14-May-2009 10:50:03] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[14-May-2009 10:50:22] <rocket> ok I have a question for the devs
[14-May-2009 10:50:37] <kalahari8751> OK. Back to the original question, is there any guidance on how many commands is too many? Does zencommand ever silently drop items if it gets under too much load?
[14-May-2009 10:50:41] <rocket> say I am creating a device that references another device
[14-May-2009 10:50:57] <rocket> would I use a zlink to reference the other device?
[14-May-2009 10:51:16] <rocket> eg I have a Hardware management console .. and it can control many aix systems
[14-May-2009 10:51:31] <mrayzenoss> rocket: yeah, that's a common use case for zLinks
[14-May-2009 10:51:33] <jb> yeah
[14-May-2009 10:51:37] <jb> thats what I use zLinks for
[14-May-2009 10:51:43] <jb> TSM Web client, OpenManage, HMC, etc
[14-May-2009 11:04:15] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[14-May-2009 11:21:41] <mrayzenoss> Well, it's been a quiet session, but I'll be here as I usually am
[14-May-2009 11:21:53] <mrayzenoss> Devs are free to go to lunch
[14-May-2009 11:22:08] <mrayzenoss> Everybody go download 2.4.1 now
[14-May-2009 11:25:15] <jb>
[14-May-2009 11:25:28] <jb> im gonna try to get around to QA'ing 2.4.1 tommorow
[14-May-2009 11:28:15] <rocket> any devs still around?
[14-May-2009 11:28:40] <rocket> looking at the dev guide there is a link object .. 9.4.7 is that different than a zLink?
[14-May-2009 11:30:44] <__ian__> checking
[14-May-2009 11:32:09] <__ian__> ah. Yes, they are unrelated.
[14-May-2009 11:33:35] <rocket> __ian__: I think I want to use a link instead of a zLink .. or is link going away?
[14-May-2009 11:34:59] <edwardam> 2.4.1 changelog ?
[14-May-2009 11:35:14] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/release-notes/Release_Notes_Core_2.4.1.pdf
[14-May-2009 11:35:26] <mrayzenoss> 4 tickets and fixes for OSX Server
[14-May-2009 11:36:17] <perr0> sergeymasushko: to answer your earlier question, I login to zope through http://ipaddy:8080/zport/dmd/Devices/manage
[14-May-2009 11:36:47] <perr0> is there a better way? idk
[14-May-2009 11:38:16] <__ian__> rocket: they're totally different things. zLink is just a zProperty and does nothing but display custom HTML in the UI. that <link> element you pointed to is nothing more than a way to indicate a relationship to another object in the database; not sure how you'd use that.
[14-May-2009 11:38:54] <rocket> __ian__: well say I have a hmc modeled and it discovers a server it controls
[14-May-2009 11:38:55] <sergeymasushko> perr0: I've used link like http://ipaddy:8080/manage
[14-May-2009 11:39:13] <rocket> __ian__: wouldnt I want to just link to the server already in the database?
[14-May-2009 11:39:32] <perr0> try :8080/zport/dmd/manage
[14-May-2009 11:39:35] <__ian__> sergeymasushko: That's logging in to the root of Zope, which Zenoss users can't do.
[14-May-2009 11:39:49] <__ian__> What perr0 said. Try zport or zport/dmd.
[14-May-2009 11:40:08] <__ian__> rocket: In what context? That is, what do you mean by "link"?
[14-May-2009 11:40:35] <rocket> eg --- hmc <-link-> server1
[14-May-2009 11:40:48] <rocket> eg --- hmc <-link-> server2
[14-May-2009 11:40:50] <__ian__> no, I get that...what I mean is, what is your end goal?
[14-May-2009 11:41:12] <rocket> eg I want to be able to go to the hmc ... and make a page that shows the different servers
[14-May-2009 11:41:17] <__ian__> A UI anchor tag? Or some low-level relationship for a new feature?
[14-May-2009 11:41:32] <sergeymasushko> but I tried it before upgrade and it works
[14-May-2009 11:41:32] <__ian__> Yeah, that <link> element is not how you would do that.
[14-May-2009 11:42:02] <rocket> __ian__: I am not sure yet I guess .. I might want to pull some server stat into the hmc webpage .. but initially probably not ..
[14-May-2009 11:42:16] <rocket> __ian__: a UI anchor tag is probably all I would need initially
[14-May-2009 11:42:17] <__ian__> rocket: The hmc will presumably have some reference to the servers -- IP, hostname, something. You make a template that looks those up.
[14-May-2009 11:43:00] <__ian__> That is, that takes the string referring to the server and basically finds the related Device object in the database, and makes an anchor tag pointing there.
[14-May-2009 11:43:42] <rocket> __ian__: but then from a device perspective there is no real link .. ?
[14-May-2009 11:44:49] <__ian__> Oh, I see what you are saying. You want to pull zenoss content into the hmc? I somehow glossed over that.
[14-May-2009 11:46:01] <rocket> __ian__: eg hmc goes down .. I may not wish to get alerts about the systems going down .. (bad example ... but thats kind of the thought )
[14-May-2009 11:46:07] <__ian__> The <link> element is just output from the device dump. It's a way for the XML to refer to other objects in the Zope database without redefining them. It is in no way related to anything user-facing.
[14-May-2009 11:46:33] <rocket> __ian__: ok .. so I would have to do a relationship then ..
[14-May-2009 11:46:48] <__ian__> Well, not necessarily. It can be dynamic.
[14-May-2009 11:46:50] <rocket> __ian__: probably a one-to-one non container relationship?
[14-May-2009 11:47:13] <rocket> __ian__: oh? howso?
[14-May-2009 11:47:48] <__ian__> so...the HMC is a Device in Zenoss, right?
[14-May-2009 11:47:55] <rocket> yes
[14-May-2009 11:48:12] <rocket> its standalone .. but it knows about the servers
[14-May-2009 11:48:12] <__ian__> and it models, and gets back...what, a list of strings referring to servers?
[14-May-2009 11:48:25] <rocket> yes
[14-May-2009 11:49:02] <__ian__> So if you have that list stored as an attribute of the object, you can build your template to iterate over the list and do a catalog lookup
[14-May-2009 11:50:32] <__ian__> <tal:block tal:repeat="server here/listOfHostnames"><a tal:attributes="href python:here.dmd.Devices.findDevice(server).absolute_url_path()">Server</a></tal:block>
[14-May-2009 11:50:37] <__ian__> something like that.
[14-May-2009 11:50:43] <__ian__> make sense?
[14-May-2009 11:50:49] <rocket> ok thats kind of what I thought ..
[14-May-2009 11:50:54] <rocket> it does ..
[14-May-2009 11:51:07] <__ian__> A more formal relationship gets you into difficulty
[14-May-2009 11:51:18] <__ian__> because then you have to keep the relationships synced on every model
[14-May-2009 11:51:23] <rocket> I am assuming deleting it is a pain etc ..
[14-May-2009 11:51:27] <__ian__> whereas if it's just a list of strings that isn't needed.
[14-May-2009 11:52:35] <__ian__> Your dependency scenario is more difficult, and then you would probably need some relatively complex setup
[14-May-2009 11:53:51] <rocket> __ian__: would it ever make sense from a event monitoring perspective to link them via a dependancy?
[14-May-2009 11:54:21] <rocket> __ian__: another example .. a cisco fiber switch port and a server
[14-May-2009 11:55:10] <rocket> eg if the port goes down .. dont alert on the server port failure .. something along those lines .. or would that be handled better in a transform?
[14-May-2009 11:55:50] <rocket> __ian__: I am just trying to understand how to best handle these dependancies as I am programming things so I have less work in the long run with the other admins or users using it
[14-May-2009 11:56:08] <__ian__> A transform is the easiest way, certainly.
[14-May-2009 11:57:07] <__ian__> Creating and maintaining actual relationships between objects is a huge deal. Our Enterprise VMWare pack has to do that between hosts and guests.
[14-May-2009 11:58:02] <rocket> __ian__: well my hmc might need to be a similar model... or a vio and lpar relationship etc ..
[14-May-2009 11:58:55] <rocket> eg an aix system can have a <server_frame> -> <virtual_io server> -> <lpar/real_server>
[14-May-2009 11:59:19] <rocket> __ian__: and that probably needs to be handled similarly to an enterprise vmware pack
[14-May-2009 11:59:29] <__ian__> rocket: Exactly. You'd need to write custom classes for those things, to handle relationships back and forth, and find a sane way to keep those updated on remodel.
[14-May-2009 11:59:42] <__ian__> rocket: It's quite the undertaking.
[14-May-2009 11:59:50] <rocket> __ian__: custom classes arent an issue with me
[14-May-2009 12:00:00] <rocket> __ian__: you havent seen my aix zenpack yet
[14-May-2009 12:00:17] <rocket> __ian__: you should ask matt for the screenshots
[14-May-2009 12:01:01] <rocket> __ian__: I have a os->volumegroup->logical_volume->filesystem relationship working ..
[14-May-2009 12:01:29] <__ian__> rocket: Well, that's good. You probably won't have an enormous amount of trouble, then. You might have a bit of a time with the servers, since they'd need to be mutated to a new class to include the relationship back to the HMC
[14-May-2009 12:01:58] <rocket> __ian__: I already mutated them for other screens I needed to do
[14-May-2009 12:02:03] <__ian__> rocket: Your previous statement was correct. You'd use a ToManyRelationship on the HMC side, and a ToOneRelationship on the server side.
[14-May-2009 12:02:10] <rocket> __ian__: I needed to override __init__
[14-May-2009 12:02:12] <__ian__> No containment.
[14-May-2009 12:02:28] <rocket> to get os=AIXOperatingSystem .. and hw=AIXDeviceHW ..
[14-May-2009 12:02:38] <__ian__> ah, right. That's cool.
[14-May-2009 12:04:25] <rocket> __ian__: alrighty then I guess I will just need to figure out non-container relationships
[14-May-2009 12:05:31] <__ian__> Look at the relationships between IpInterface and IpAddress for an example
[14-May-2009 12:06:32] <rocket> __ian__: thanks ..
[14-May-2009 12:06:57] <rocket> __ian__: now I need to just think through how aix partition mobility will work with this stuff ..
[14-May-2009 12:07:27] <rocket> __ian__: it would be easier if I could see how you guys did it with the vmware one .. but as I am not an enterprise customer I understand
[14-May-2009 12:07:58] <rocket> I am just grateful you guys come around to answer my questions ..
[14-May-2009 12:10:16] <rocket> __ian__: another quick question for you
[14-May-2009 12:10:44] <rocket> __ian__: in my development I have found that as I change the device model I have had to delete and recreate the device for my changes to be picked up
[14-May-2009 12:10:55] <rocket> __ian__: is there a more graceful way to handle that?
[14-May-2009 12:11:21] <__ian__> you should not need to do that. Probably just restarting zope and remodeling it will work.
[14-May-2009 12:11:24] <rocket> __ian__: eg I was adding cdroms to my aix device and they didnt show up until i deleted the device and then discovered it again
[14-May-2009 12:11:50] <rocket> __ian__: ok I will have to play with it some more to see if I keep running into that problem
[14-May-2009 12:11:59] <__ian__> zopectl restart && zenhub restart && zenmodeler run -d mydevice
[14-May-2009 12:12:44] <rocket> __ian__: I was just concerned future development would hose up my old object model etc .. so I had to totally define the device class before I went to production here with it
[14-May-2009 12:12:56] <rocket> __ian__: if what you say is true I am less concerned
[14-May-2009 12:13:46] <__ian__> If that doesn't work, a migrate script is an approach less drastic than deleting and re-adding.
[14-May-2009 12:14:11] <rocket> __ian__: any examples of migrate scripts that might do that?
[14-May-2009 12:14:13] <__ian__> tho I dunno why that'd be necessary in this scenario.
[14-May-2009 12:14:25] <__ian__> not really, since you shouldn't need it.
[14-May-2009 12:14:31] <rocket> k
[14-May-2009 12:14:34] <rocket> thanks again
[14-May-2009 12:14:36] <__ian__> sure
[14-May-2009 13:26:54] <rmatte> any python experts: http://pastebin.com/m136aa599
[14-May-2009 13:27:21] <rmatte> this script does an snmpwalk on an OID then outputs it in nagios format...
[14-May-2009 13:27:59] <rmatte> rmatte@gen01:~$ ./snmp_branch.py -d <censored> -c <censored> -o 1.3.6.1.2.1.25.3.3.1.2 -p 161 --label="cpu"
[14-May-2009 13:28:00] <rmatte> |cpu0=13 cpu1=13 cpu2=26 cpu3=49
[14-May-2009 13:28:09] <rmatte> it auto-increments the label specified
[14-May-2009 13:28:17] <rmatte> I want to get it to start at 1 instead of 0
[14-May-2009 13:28:20] <rmatte> so cpu1 and so on
[14-May-2009 13:28:46] <rmatte> the obvious way to do this would be to change line 61 from i = 0 to i = 1, but this doesn't work
[14-May-2009 13:29:08] <rmatte> I've also tried changing a ton of other values in the script and no changes seem to even impact the operation of the script
[14-May-2009 13:29:15] <rmatte> and it still displays cpu0 and so on...
[14-May-2009 13:29:19] <rmatte> any ideas?
[14-May-2009 13:30:49] <kisielk> lets see..
[14-May-2009 13:34:23] <kisielk> need to install pysnmp
[14-May-2009 13:34:26] <kisielk> give me a moment
[14-May-2009 13:34:28] <rmatte> k
[14-May-2009 13:34:30] <rmatte> thanks
[14-May-2009 13:36:00] <rmatte> it'd be nice to see this type of functionality in Zenoss, so that you could dynamically add data points based on a string of snmp values
[14-May-2009 13:36:20] <rmatte> would be great for multi-cpu systems, and stuff like monitoring wireless signals on wireless access points
[14-May-2009 13:41:09] <kisielk> interesting
[14-May-2009 13:41:14] <kisielk> this code is a bit funny
[14-May-2009 13:41:23] <rmatte> you're telling me
[14-May-2009 13:41:25] <rmatte> I didn't write it
[14-May-2009 13:41:26] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 13:43:33] <kisielk> okay, basically it's getting the numbers from "leaves"
[14-May-2009 13:43:35] <kisielk> and not i
[14-May-2009 13:44:54] <kisielk> i is only used if you set ival
[14-May-2009 13:45:25] <kisielk> this is some pretty horrible python code though
[14-May-2009 13:45:25] <kisielk> heh
[14-May-2009 13:48:30] <rmatte> I thought it might be from leaves
[14-May-2009 13:48:36] <rmatte> but then there's no real way to fix it
[14-May-2009 13:49:11] <rmatte> the code is quite the mess
[14-May-2009 13:51:28] <kisielk> yeah, it's a trainwreck
[14-May-2009 13:57:19] edwardam is now known as edwardam|mtg
[14-May-2009 14:00:42] <chudler> rmatte: just curious, but did that come from <http://www.linuxdynasty.org/howto-monitor-and-add-multiple-data-points-the-easy-way-in-zenos.html> ?
[14-May-2009 14:01:11] <chudler> aka the thread at http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=31793#31793 ?
[14-May-2009 14:01:38] <rmatte> chudler: yeh it did
[14-May-2009 14:01:53] <chudler> I really love the idea of what it is trying to do. Never looked at the code
[14-May-2009 14:02:04] <rmatte> the code is messy, but what it's trying to do is great
[14-May-2009 14:02:20] <rmatte> especially since I'm monitoring a bunch of windows servers using the default windows SNMP agent
[14-May-2009 14:02:32] <rmatte> and it sucks because the OIDs for the CPUs tend to wander
[14-May-2009 14:02:51] <rocket> rmatte: you just want it to start at 1?
[14-May-2009 14:02:54] <rmatte> like they'll be .1 .2 .3 .4, one day, then .2, .3, .4, .5 the next day
[14-May-2009 14:03:15] <rmatte> yeh, when I do --label="cpu"
[14-May-2009 14:03:19] <rmatte> it does cpu0, cpu1, etc...
[14-May-2009 14:03:25] <rmatte> I want it to be cpu1, cpu2, etc...
[14-May-2009 14:03:48] <rocket> can you try putting on line 63
[14-May-2009 14:03:53] <rocket> leaves += 1
[14-May-2009 14:04:21] <rocket> or does that throw off the index .. hrmm let me see
[14-May-2009 14:04:42] <rmatte> doesn't work at all
[14-May-2009 14:04:52] <rmatte> script still runs normally though
[14-May-2009 14:05:12] <rmatte> |cpu0=10 cpu1=17 cpu2=25 cpu3=49
[14-May-2009 14:05:52] <rmatte> and that would probably throw off the index
[14-May-2009 14:07:05] <chudler> the code duplicates a lot of effort :-) simply change "str(leaves)" to "str(leaves+1)" in the appropriate place
[14-May-2009 14:07:43] <rocket> try this line 83
[14-May-2009 14:08:04] <rocket> out1 = "%s%s=%s" % (label[0],str(leaves+1),SnmpBranch[leaves][0][1])
[14-May-2009 14:08:19] <rmatte> sweet
[14-May-2009 14:08:23] <rmatte> that works, thanks guys
[14-May-2009 14:08:45] <rocket> rmatte: it might miss some border cases .. but you know where to look now
[14-May-2009 14:08:56] <rmatte> border cases?
[14-May-2009 14:09:17] <rocket> eg things that the other if statements are catching
[14-May-2009 14:09:36] <rmatte> oh well, I'm only using it for a very specific task
[14-May-2009 14:09:41] <rmatte> and it seems to be working fine for that
[14-May-2009 14:09:43] <rocket> eg if it ever prints default0 and you wanted it to print default1
[14-May-2009 14:09:54] <rmatte> ah
[14-May-2009 14:10:24] <rmatte> that's fixed now too
[14-May-2009 14:10:28] <rmatte> just modified the other line
[14-May-2009 14:10:28] <rocket> the outl= lines are the lines that are the strings you would need to find ..
[14-May-2009 14:10:40] <rmatte> |default1=12 default2=21 default3=29 default4=38
[14-May-2009 14:11:12] <chudler> no offense to the author, but that printMagic method does make me want to poke my eyes out. Must. resist. urge. to. rewrite.
[14-May-2009 14:11:27] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:11:36] <rmatte> meh, if it works it works
[14-May-2009 14:11:57] <rmatte> heck, if I was writing the script I'd do it in bash
[14-May-2009 14:11:58] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:12:35] <rmatte> since I'm way better at bash than python right now
[14-May-2009 14:12:49] <chudler> of course, language is not *the* most important consideration. I imagine someone could write a beautiful implementation in bash, or a horrible one.
[14-May-2009 14:13:13] <rmatte> here's a script that I wrote for monitoring RAM on windows servers that have the default SNMP agent installed
[14-May-2009 14:13:15] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m3e357f22
[14-May-2009 14:13:32] <rmatte> it finds the right OID for the memory (since the OID changes based on the number of physical volumes on each device)
[14-May-2009 14:14:25] <rmatte> works like a charm
[14-May-2009 14:14:38] <rmatte> calculates the percentage in use as well, so it's easier to threshold
[14-May-2009 14:15:03] <rmatte> I need to write something like it for Cisco and IBM network devices so that we can threshold on memory usage in percentage
[14-May-2009 14:15:10] <mrayzenoss_> chudler: feel free to send Allen patches to his script, I'm sure he'd be happy for feedback
[14-May-2009 14:15:11] <chudler> that's just the kind of thing that would NEVER break.
[14-May-2009 14:15:35] <rmatte> what would never break?
[14-May-2009 14:15:39] <chudler> your bash
[14-May-2009 14:15:46] <rmatte> being sarcastic?
[14-May-2009 14:15:48] <rmatte> lol
[14-May-2009 14:16:06] <rmatte> seems pretty solid so far, been running it for a couple months now without issues
[14-May-2009 14:16:12] <chudler> no, sarcasm doesn't work over the internet :-). I am deadly serious. Its just not complicated, so that's nice.
[14-May-2009 14:16:19] <rmatte> it's maybe a bit more load intensive than if I had done in in python
[14-May-2009 14:16:22] <rmatte> but it works nicely
[14-May-2009 14:16:56] <rmatte> yeh, simplicity is nice hehe
[14-May-2009 14:17:18] <rmatte> it'd be nice to see stuff like that built right in to Zenoss though
[14-May-2009 14:17:33] <rmatte> the best I've seen uses snmp informant, but not everyone wants to use snmp informant
[14-May-2009 14:17:58] <rmatte> a mix of Allen's script and my script (recoded in python or something) would make monitoring the default Windows SNMP agent a breeze
[14-May-2009 14:18:53] <rmatte> plus you could make it so that the graphs dynamically adjust based on the number of CPUs
[14-May-2009 14:41:21] <mydog2> nirvana!
[14-May-2009 14:41:24] <mydog2> hi...
[14-May-2009 14:41:36] <mydog2> hello?
[14-May-2009 14:48:43] <mydog2> hello?
[14-May-2009 14:49:04] <rmatte> hello
[14-May-2009 14:49:20] <mydog2> aha.. someone is here... good...
[14-May-2009 14:49:42] <mydog2> hi. i've just come across zenoss.. and i'm trying to get my head around it..
[14-May-2009 14:50:16] <mydog2> as i understand it.. the app is web based.. and can be used to monitor processes on different servers within my network..
[14-May-2009 14:50:25] <mydog2> am i right so far?
[14-May-2009 14:50:40] <__ian__> Processes and many other things.
[14-May-2009 14:50:42] <rmatte> correct
[14-May-2009 14:51:22] <mydog2> ok.. so i'm guessing that it works by having client apps on the client machines which connect back with the master zenoss server..
[14-May-2009 14:51:34] <rocket> mydog2: not necessarily
[14-May-2009 14:51:37] <__ian__> No. Well, snmpd.
[14-May-2009 14:51:42] <rocket> mydog2: ssh or snmpd
[14-May-2009 14:51:50] <rocket> or wmi on windows .. etc ..
[14-May-2009 14:52:08] <__ian__> There's no Zenoss agent.
[14-May-2009 14:52:09] <jb> no propreitary agent..
[14-May-2009 14:52:11] <rmatte> it's all effectively agentless
[14-May-2009 14:52:17] <mydog2> ok so for a linux system.. does the master server poll the boxes in the network?
[14-May-2009 14:52:18] <jb> standard methods are snmp/ssh, and wmi for windows..
[14-May-2009 14:52:23] <jb> yep
[14-May-2009 14:52:45] <rmatte> you'd setup snmp on your linux servers, and also optionally collect info via ssh
[14-May-2009 14:53:00] <mydog2> so how does it stop/start a remote process...
[14-May-2009 14:53:13] <rmatte> why would you need it to?
[14-May-2009 14:53:28] <jb> an event could trigger a zencommand..
[14-May-2009 14:55:02] <mydog2> rmatte - for my situation.. i'm going to have different processes running on client systems.. i'm looking for a way to manage the remote apps, get up/down time, etc.. as well as being able to start/stop the processes on the remote machines...
[14-May-2009 14:55:16] <__ian__> Yeah, you can set Zenoss up to react to various events by executing arbitrary commands
[14-May-2009 14:56:05] <rmatte> you could setup Zenoss to login and try to start a process on a Linux server if it sees the process go down
[14-May-2009 14:56:11] <__ian__> Zenoss can monitor the uptime of processes. When a process goes away, Zenoss will generate an event saying it stopped, and you can hook that up to a command sshing into the box to restart it, if you like.
[14-May-2009 14:56:15] <__ian__> What rmatte said.
[14-May-2009 14:56:36] <rmatte> also, Zenoss can collect CPU usage, memory usage, and process count for each individual process on a server
[14-May-2009 14:57:20] <mydog2> rmatte - ok.. good.. so it might work...
[14-May-2009 14:57:46] <mydog2> zenoss is python right?
[14-May-2009 14:57:50] <davidX_> has anyone installed the hp proliant mibs zenpack before? how long did it take to install for you?
[14-May-2009 14:57:53] <rmatte> correct
[14-May-2009 14:57:56] <jb> yeah.. python/zope
[14-May-2009 14:57:59] <rocket> mydog2: python and zope ..
[14-May-2009 14:58:00] <jb> and mysql for events
[14-May-2009 14:58:24] <rmatte> davidX_: well, the cisco Mibs pack takes like 5-7 hours to install
[14-May-2009 14:58:40] <rmatte> davidX_: not sure how many Mibs are in the proliant pack, but it could take a while
[14-May-2009 14:59:18] <davidX_> rmatte: k, wasn't sure what to expect with it being a 700k file
[14-May-2009 14:59:47] <mydog2> anyone have knowledge of how zenoss compares to nagios...
[14-May-2009 14:59:48] <rmatte> the Cisco Mibs pack is only about 3Mb
[14-May-2009 14:59:53] <rmatte> but it takes 5-7 hours
[14-May-2009 15:00:00] <mydog2> are they simialr.. or is it apples/oranges..
[14-May-2009 15:00:05] <mydog2> similar
[14-May-2009 15:00:12] <rmatte> They are similar, Zenoss is a bit more user friendly
[14-May-2009 15:00:31] <jb> have you used nagios? it's a nightmare to maintain and configure
[14-May-2009 15:00:39] <jb> and zenoss can also use nagios plugins natively
[14-May-2009 15:00:39] <rmatte> yeh, it's pretty bad
[14-May-2009 15:00:46] <rmatte> I actually used it as part of groundworks
[14-May-2009 15:00:50] <rmatte> so it wasn't such a nightmare
[14-May-2009 15:00:54] <rmatte> still pretty bad though
[14-May-2009 15:03:35] <edwardam> syslog question ... I have a switch syslogging to zenoss (confirmed via verbose logging of zensyslog), but I'm not getting events.... I think I'm missing something... Any ideas?
[14-May-2009 15:04:40] <mydog2> going to have to think about this a bit...
[14-May-2009 15:05:21] <rocket> mydog2: if you know python then it is pretty reasonable to come up with new extensions to zenoss as well .. or even if you dont know python you can do quite a lot
[14-May-2009 15:06:27] <mrayzenoss> mydog2: there's a Getting Started with Zenoss webinar next week
[14-May-2009 15:10:22] edwardam is now known as edwardam|lnch
[14-May-2009 15:10:45] <jb> where is all the new ssh documentation?
[14-May-2009 15:10:51] <jb> is it only 12.8 in the dev guide?
[14-May-2009 15:11:04] <jb> 12.8.2
[14-May-2009 15:12:00] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/SshZenpack
[14-May-2009 15:12:07] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/HowToAddSshTest
[14-May-2009 15:12:12] <jb> ah thanks
[14-May-2009 15:12:18] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/DeviceModel
[14-May-2009 15:24:15] <joshmoore> Is there any API call to duplicate a template?
[14-May-2009 15:49:01] <rocket> does anyone know if you can apply templates to groups?
[14-May-2009 15:49:10] <rocket> eg I have a group of webservers
[14-May-2009 15:49:21] <rocket> I would like to apply a webserver template to that group
[14-May-2009 15:55:15] <donspaulding> is there a way to use public/private keys to monitor over SSH instead of username/password?
[14-May-2009 16:00:00] <mrayzenoss> yes
[14-May-2009 16:00:20] <mrayzenoss> you'll want to give the keys to your 'zenoss' user
[14-May-2009 16:09:44] <davidX_> my hp mibs have installed but i don't see a template under bindings, should something automagically occur from these, or?
[14-May-2009 16:10:48] <mrayzenoss> no
[14-May-2009 16:11:02] <mrayzenoss> MIBs are used by Zenoss to translate incoming SNMP traps
[14-May-2009 16:11:15] <mrayzenoss> they aren't used for monitoring per se
[14-May-2009 16:11:31] <davidX_> k, i wasn't sure if the snmp side would automatically pick up everything
[14-May-2009 16:11:39] <davidX_> will read more
[14-May-2009 16:13:48] <davidX_> hmm, i install nagios checkping but don't see that under templates either, should it be?
[14-May-2009 16:13:56] <davidX_> i've restarted the necessary services
[14-May-2009 16:15:24] <mrayzenoss> did you follow the docs for that ZenPack? They're pretty good if memory serves
[14-May-2009 16:15:57] <davidX_> ahh, fixed
[14-May-2009 16:15:58] <davidX_> sorry
[14-May-2009 16:16:01] <davidX_> having too much fun
[14-May-2009 16:17:21] <donspaulding> mrayzenoss: thanks, I've got the zenoss user's keys set up and it seems to be able to login successfully (according to the Model Device output), now onto collecting real data from the box!
[14-May-2009 16:17:35] <mrayzenoss> donspaulding: excellent
[14-May-2009 16:20:28] edwardam|lnch is now known as edwardam
[14-May-2009 16:45:50] edwardam is now known as bluelion
[14-May-2009 16:46:01] bluelion is now known as edwardam
[14-May-2009 16:56:07] <erik123> has anyone seen the new zenoss visually break the menus?
[14-May-2009 16:56:22] <erik123> anything that is not an active tab has a large border around it
[14-May-2009 16:59:16] <erik123> ah, never mind. found the fix here: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9718
[14-May-2009 17:15:24] <joshmoore> are the problems with used_blocks (http://www.paste-it.net/public/dca0693/) in the filesystem template in 2.4.0 known?
[14-May-2009 17:21:29] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4978 ?
[14-May-2009 17:27:13] <joshmoore> hmmm...no. we did just migrate from 2.3.x
[14-May-2009 17:28:35] <joshmoore> but the template's not bindable to any devices, and clicking on the data source causes that paste.
[14-May-2009 17:32:21] <mrayzenoss> well, here's the list of current issues against 2.4.2: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[14-May-2009 17:33:34] <mrayzenoss> please open a ticket if you don't see your issue
[14-May-2009 17:34:10] <joshmoore> will do.
[14-May-2009 22:03:08] <kelvinq> hello!
[14-May-2009 22:04:35] <kelvinq> i've installed zenossplugins on a linux2 system but zenoss still complains that it cannot find uptime and intf. can anyone help?
[14-May-2009 22:04:48] <kelvinq> process, mem and io are all okay though.
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[15-May-2009 00:06:50] <kelvinq> hello!
[15-May-2009 00:06:55] <kelvinq> from singapore.
[15-May-2009 03:00:49] * ToeiRei waves hello.
[15-May-2009 03:31:55] <kelvinq> hello!
[15-May-2009 03:32:04] <kelvinq> as in, hello ToeiRei!
[15-May-2009 03:34:52] <ToeiRei>
[15-May-2009 03:39:54] <ToeiRei> I am trying to build zenoss from source. The installer terminates while installing wmi
[15-May-2009 03:40:39] <ToeiRei> is there an unknown dependency or simmilar?
[15-May-2009 03:41:59] <ToeiRei> That looks like the error from the log: http://pastebin.com/m59b53562
[15-May-2009 03:56:23] <ToeiRei> I'm using the svn branch 2.4.x... URL: http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/branches/zenoss-2.4.x/inst
[15-May-2009 04:08:39] <kelvinq> hmph. can't help ToeiRei. i am a noob too. using the entire zenoss stack package. super heavy stuff!
[15-May-2009 04:13:01] <ToeiRei> I'll try the tarball... just to make sure
[15-May-2009 04:29:35] <ToeiRei> Glad that I am used to compile stuff on gentoo *g*
[15-May-2009 04:39:09] <dysprosia> Does zenoss let you correlate perfomance events with how long it has been in that state for? (ie., alert on high CPU only if it's been that way for a while)
[15-May-2009 04:39:19] <dysprosia> it seems like it can but it's not quite clear.
[15-May-2009 04:48:22] <ToeiRei> sorry, I'm still installing - so I can't tell yet
[15-May-2009 05:32:35] <ToeiRei> same issue
[15-May-2009 06:15:14] <ToeiRei> I guess I am pretty stuck
[15-May-2009 07:05:26] <ToeiRei> okay... I guess I could track it down to the wmi package
[15-May-2009 09:15:29] <rocket> morning matt
[15-May-2009 09:15:36] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[15-May-2009 09:54:29] edwardam is now known as edwardam|gym
[15-May-2009 10:23:54] <perr0> sup caseyh20
[15-May-2009 10:28:34] <caseyh20> hi perr0, any news on the iconv.h issue?
[15-May-2009 10:31:09] <perr0> I submitted a post for help on bug-gnu-utils list
[15-May-2009 10:31:59] <perr0> did you read the link I posted? I been messing with the rrddeps.sh script zenoss provides but nothing has worked
[15-May-2009 10:32:57] <caseyh20> yeah I read it, I had seen it before while searching. I have been messing with the rrddeps.sh and some of the makefiles with no luck
[15-May-2009 10:33:43] <caseyh20> I notice in the forums a user was able to get zenoss 2.4.0 running on FreeBSD 7.1 no problem so I upgraded from 7.0 but I still have the same problem.
[15-May-2009 10:33:55] <caseyh20> have you tried zenoss 2.4.1?
[15-May-2009 10:34:30] <perr0> I think that was something else, no I am not going to jump to it yet probably has the same gettext version
[15-May-2009 10:37:11] <perr0> I guess I can downloaded it and check
[15-May-2009 10:37:19] <perr0> just don't have time
[15-May-2009 10:41:54] <mrayzenoss_> yeah, the changes for 2.4.1 were minimal
[15-May-2009 10:44:03] <mrayzenoss_> I opened a high priority ticket for King Crab to fix the build issues for FreeBSD and other platforms: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
[15-May-2009 10:44:29] <mrayzenoss_> our build engineer is making this a priority
[15-May-2009 10:44:37] <mrayzenoss_> since it's so embarassing
[15-May-2009 10:45:01] <mrayzenoss_> didn't really affect us since we build on RHEL 5.3 primarily
[15-May-2009 10:45:19] <mrayzenoss_> and then I noticed that I found it for source builds on almost every other platform
[15-May-2009 10:45:57] <mrayzenoss_> except Debian 5, which is the distro I use for building from source
[15-May-2009 10:46:17] <caseyh20> lol, you guys should use an Automated Virtual Lab for testing/QA
[15-May-2009 10:47:03] <caseyh20> I watched an interesting presentation about it yesterday at the Phoenix VMware User Group Confrence
[15-May-2009 10:47:36] <mrayzenoss_> right now we use buildbot with a ton of VMs, but we're not testing source builds on multiple platforms, just the install artifacts
[15-May-2009 10:47:58] <caseyh20> ah
[15-May-2009 10:48:03] <mrayzenoss_> so that's a deficiency in our process
[15-May-2009 10:48:35] <mrayzenoss_> but we test on about 40 VMs
[15-May-2009 10:49:14] <mrayzenoss_> everything on the download page has a VM for testing, except the source builds
[15-May-2009 10:51:32] <caseyh20> have you guys looked into labmanager from VMlogix?
[15-May-2009 10:52:45] <mrayzenoss_> not that I'm aware of
[15-May-2009 11:03:45] <perr0> at least zenoss is multiplatform which is great.
[15-May-2009 11:04:42] <gemineye> Good morning Mr. Ray
[15-May-2009 11:05:00] <perr0> hehe is Matt Ray
[15-May-2009 11:05:17] <perr0> oops
[15-May-2009 11:06:15] <gemineye> Hey mrayzenoss, if you ever have any kids, and one is a boy, you should name him Sting
He'll be the coolest kid in school.[15-May-2009 11:06:32] <gemineye> hehe, I made a funny
[15-May-2009 11:12:41] <mrayzenoss_> or a girl named Sunny
[15-May-2009 11:12:45] mrayzenoss_ is now known as mrayzenoss
[15-May-2009 11:13:30] <mrayzenoss> I like the name Xavier as well
[15-May-2009 11:35:47] <rocket> I wished my last name was byte .. so i could have had a daughter named meg a. byte
[15-May-2009 11:45:48] <caseyh20> lol
[15-May-2009 11:59:15] <cain22> hello all
[15-May-2009 11:59:34] <cain22> mrayzenoss: you there?
[15-May-2009 11:59:49] <mrayzenoss> yeah, sitting in a planning meeting
[15-May-2009 11:59:58] <cain22> or, anyone here have a zendmd issue after upgrading to 2.4.1?
[15-May-2009 12:01:39] <mrayzenoss> cain22: is there a thread or link with an example?
[15-May-2009 12:01:47] <mrayzenoss> dev is watching the forums for new issues
[15-May-2009 12:02:05] <cain22> mrayzenoss: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=34867#34867
[15-May-2009 12:03:46] <mrayzenoss> I'll try to get someone to respond to the thread
[15-May-2009 12:04:08] <cain22> thanks
[15-May-2009 12:04:09] <cain22>
[15-May-2009 12:05:14] <cain22> Anyone having IE display issues after the upgrade?
[15-May-2009 12:06:43] <rocket> cain22: refrsh your browser cache
[15-May-2009 12:07:18] <mrayzenoss> cain22: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4979 is this what you're seeing?
[15-May-2009 12:07:31] <mrayzenoss> the only one we have on the radar yet
[15-May-2009 12:08:19] <cain22> rocket: did that already
[15-May-2009 12:08:24] <cain22> i followed the steps
[15-May-2009 12:09:27] <cain22> mrayzenoss: no, mine is all around display, not just events
[15-May-2009 12:09:52] <cain22> i've got a case opened for it...was just curious if anyone else had the same issue
[15-May-2009 12:18:58] <jeld> I have several web servers behind load balancers, I wonder if I can match "server down" events in such a way that if one server is down it is a warning, but if all servers are down it is a critical event, so zenoss matches up and down events about multiple devices
[15-May-2009 12:19:41] <mrayzenoss> you could do that with an event transform
[15-May-2009 12:20:19] <afink> Is there a way to have links drawn on the google map when you are on the same network, but not same subnet?
[15-May-2009 12:20:22] <jeld> mrayzenoss, somehow I cannot even match up down events about one server together
[15-May-2009 12:20:49] <jeld> mrayzenoss, I tried just changing the even class the way it says in the manual and events stopped mapping correctly
[15-May-2009 12:22:10] <jeld> I should probably upgrade to 2.4.1 first and then try again
[15-May-2009 12:22:30] <mrayzenoss> jeld: take a look at the Event Management paper here: http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jcurry.html
[15-May-2009 12:23:54] * mrayzenoss is off to lunch
[15-May-2009 12:24:09] <perr0> caseyh20: you here?
[15-May-2009 12:26:33] <caseyh20> yeah
[15-May-2009 12:27:22] <perr0> ok so I think I solved the gettext issue
[15-May-2009 12:27:51] <perr0> grr
[15-May-2009 12:28:01] <caseyh20> what did you find out?
[15-May-2009 12:30:10] <perr0> ok so I removed the gettext-0.7 and the patch
[15-May-2009 12:30:33] <perr0> in the rrddeps.sh
[15-May-2009 12:30:41] <perr0> I comment it out the patch
[15-May-2009 12:30:49] <perr0> or any conf options
[15-May-2009 12:31:52] <caseyh20> and it worked?
[15-May-2009 12:32:24] <perr0> and downloaded the previous version gettext from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gettext/
[15-May-2009 12:32:45] <perr0> sorry I am on the phone and here
[15-May-2009 12:32:57] <caseyh20> lol, np
[15-May-2009 12:33:23] <caseyh20> so version 0.16?
[15-May-2009 12:33:41] <perr0> yes 016
[15-May-2009 12:34:14] <perr0> now the installation is going to break because you will need to link the correct freetype dir
[15-May-2009 12:34:27] <perr0> the developers put the freetype dir under Linux
[15-May-2009 12:34:37] <perr0> or for Linux
[15-May-2009 12:34:54] <caseyh20> right
[15-May-2009 12:42:09] <caseyh20> as anyone seen this before? http://pastebin.com/d56bdb519
[15-May-2009 12:45:49] <perr0> could you just back up your events table and do a fresh zenoss install?
[15-May-2009 12:46:15] <caseyh20> I could
[15-May-2009 12:47:58] <rmatte> is anyone here any good with expect?
[15-May-2009 12:48:07] <rmatte> I've been pouring over examples trying to figure something out
[15-May-2009 12:48:30] <rmatte> I wrote a script that outputs "sh ip int brie" from cisco routers, and stores the output from each device in a file
[15-May-2009 12:48:58] <rmatte> what I'd like it to do is send a space whenever the Cisco router prompts with the output of "--More--" so that the output doesn't get cut off
[15-May-2009 12:49:18] <rmatte> any ideas?
[15-May-2009 12:51:01] <int> rmatte: you can try "terminal length 0" command before
[15-May-2009 12:53:32] <rmatte> ah sweet trick
[15-May-2009 12:53:36] <rmatte> thanks, didn't know about that
[15-May-2009 13:08:06] <rmatte> the script is called "intscript.xpt" by the way
[15-May-2009 13:08:08] <rmatte> lol
[15-May-2009 13:35:00] <cain22> anyone ever try to do a zenrestore and have it say rm: cannot remove directory `/home/zenoss/perf': Device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 13:36:33] <mrayzenoss> Sounds like something is still running when you try to do a zenrestore
[15-May-2009 13:36:41] <cain22> yeah, noticed
[15-May-2009 13:36:47] <cain22> zenoss restarted itself
[15-May-2009 13:38:08] <cain22> this upgrade is causing all kinds of problems
[15-May-2009 13:39:59] <cain22> zenoss is off...but i still get that error
[15-May-2009 13:43:15] <cain22> sweet
[15-May-2009 13:43:22] <cain22> now my hole thing is giving errors
[15-May-2009 13:43:31] <cain22> i am not a happy camper
[15-May-2009 13:45:16] <cain22> get a server connection error too on the web page
[15-May-2009 13:49:14] <cain22> anyone?
[15-May-2009 13:56:43] <rmatte> cain, how did you stop zenoss?
[15-May-2009 13:56:50] <cain22> zenoss stop
[15-May-2009 13:57:05] <rmatte> if you do ps -elf | grep zen
[15-May-2009 13:57:09] <rmatte> do you see anything?
[15-May-2009 13:57:30] <rmatte> also, do ps -elf | grep zopectl
[15-May-2009 13:57:33] <rmatte> also, do ps -elf | grep zeoctl
[15-May-2009 13:57:47] <cain22> i see crap tons of stuff for grep zen
[15-May-2009 13:58:02] <rmatte> is it all zenoss processes?
[15-May-2009 13:58:21] <cain22> couple things for zopectl
[15-May-2009 13:58:24] <rmatte> well, you have 2 choices, try to kill each process, or restart the server
[15-May-2009 13:58:32] <cain22> i've done that
[15-May-2009 13:58:53] <rmatte> remove the zenoss startup script from /etc/init.d before you reboot
[15-May-2009 13:58:54] <rmatte> then reboot
[15-May-2009 13:58:58] <cain22> er
[15-May-2009 13:58:58] <rmatte> then try the restore
[15-May-2009 13:59:00] <cain22> already did
[15-May-2009 13:59:01] <rmatte> then start zenoss
[15-May-2009 13:59:14] <rmatte> well obviously not if you have processes running
[15-May-2009 13:59:16] <cain22> as in, in process of rebooting
[15-May-2009 13:59:28] <cain22> before removing it from script
[15-May-2009 13:59:39] <rmatte> hunh?
[15-May-2009 14:00:23] <cain22> already started the rebooting process before you wrote 18:58 < rmatte> remove the zenoss startup script from /etc/init.d before you reboot
[15-May-2009 14:00:38] <rmatte> ah
[15-May-2009 14:00:43] <rmatte> well do it after you reboot
[15-May-2009 14:00:48] <rmatte> then reboot again
[15-May-2009 14:00:52] <cain22> lol
[15-May-2009 14:02:39] <cain22> i've never had so manything go wrong from an upgrade
[15-May-2009 14:02:52] <rmatte> meh, it happens
[15-May-2009 14:07:14] <cain22> just delete zenoss from there?
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[15-May-2009 14:22:38] <cain22> rmatte: ?
[15-May-2009 14:23:55] <cain22> nm
[15-May-2009 14:29:17] <cain22> same issue
[15-May-2009 14:29:28] <cain22> zenoss off, still can't restore
[15-May-2009 14:36:19] <cain22> mrayzenoss: umm....having some issues restoring zenoss....first time i've ever had to do it...and its saying i can't
[15-May-2009 14:40:49] <cluther> cain22: Just logged in, but I hear your installation is hosed.
[15-May-2009 14:43:41] <cain22> yes, yes it is
[15-May-2009 14:44:12] <cain22> can't do a restore
[15-May-2009 14:45:01] <cain22> multiple issues....but im hoping doing the restore, and then reupgrading to 2.4.1 will maybe fix it
[15-May-2009 14:45:03] <cluther> What's the error?
[15-May-2009 14:46:40] <cain22> while doing the restore i get the following error "rm: cannot remove directory `/home/zenoss/perf': Device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 14:46:46] <cain22> "
[15-May-2009 14:46:59] <cain22> however, zenoss is off
[15-May-2009 14:47:15] <cain22> so im not sure whats using it
[15-May-2009 14:47:52] <cluther> If you "ps ax|grep python" do you see any zenoss related processes?
[15-May-2009 14:48:15] <cain22> zenoss@ZENOSS-SRV backups]$ ps ax|grep python 2993 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-web-scgi /etc/raa/prod.cfg 2999 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-service
[15-May-2009 14:48:19] <cain22> 3030 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/raa-web-scgi /etc/raa/prod.cfg
[15-May-2009 14:48:22] <cain22> 4004 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep python
[15-May-2009 14:48:30] <cain22> er, no, not that i see
[15-May-2009 14:49:41] <cluther> I don't suppose you have any other shells open that are in that directory?
[15-May-2009 14:50:29] <cluther> You can hack around it.. open up $ZENHOME/Products/ZenUtils/ZenRestore.py and search for "Copy perf files" and comment out the two lines below it.
[15-May-2009 14:51:13] <cain22> um, but i'll want the perf when i restore it
[15-May-2009 14:52:00] <cluther> You'll get it, this just skips the part where it blows away the current performance data.
[15-May-2009 14:52:00] <rocket> cain22: fuser /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:53:16] <cain22> /home/zenoss/perf:
[15-May-2009 14:53:24] <cain22> is whats displayed
[15-May-2009 14:53:26] <rocket> try fuser -c /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:53:27] <cain22> rocket
[15-May-2009 14:53:42] <cain22> nothing
[15-May-2009 14:54:43] <cain22> wait, should i fuser -k
[15-May-2009 14:54:48] <cain22> then do the restore?
[15-May-2009 14:55:07] <rocket> cain22: try that .. and then manually remove or move the perf directory
[15-May-2009 14:55:24] <rocket> cain22: try a mv /home/zenoss/perf /home/zenoss/perf.old
[15-May-2009 14:55:34] <rocket> mkdir /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> fuser -k -v /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> /home/zenoss/perf root kernel mount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:58:13] <cain22> No automatic removal. Please use umount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:59:09] <rocket> cain22: what is the output of mount?
[15-May-2009 14:59:18] <cain22> cannot move it, device or resource busy
[15-May-2009 14:59:28] <rocket> cain22: you have another disk mounted at /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> [zenoss@ZENOSS-SRV ~]$ mount
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:41] <cain22> /dev/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:46] <rocket> or partition ..
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/shm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/sda6 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:47] <cain22> /dev/sdb1 on /home/zenoss/perf type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:48] <cain22> /dev/sda2 on /srv type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:50] <cain22> /dev/sda5 on /var type ext3 (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:52] <cain22> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:55] <cain22> nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
[15-May-2009 14:59:59] <rocket> cain22: thats why you have issues ..
[15-May-2009 15:00:05] <rocket> umount /home/zenoss/perf
[15-May-2009 15:00:31] <rocket> someone has created a separate mount point for your perf folder
[15-May-2009 15:01:08] <cain22> k
[15-May-2009 15:01:10] <cain22> now what?
[15-May-2009 15:01:13] <cain22> restore?
[15-May-2009 15:01:54] <cain22> also, is what happend to the mount now....will I have to remount it?
[15-May-2009 15:02:54] <rocket> cain22: when you are done yes ..
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[15-May-2009 15:03:17] <rocket> cain22: you might have issues with space if you are restoring the perf data there though
[15-May-2009 15:03:17] <cain22> just mount /home/zenoss/perf ?
[15-May-2009 15:03:25] <rocket> cain22: yes
[15-May-2009 15:06:36] <cain22> hmmm...now i get a server connection error
[15-May-2009 15:07:08] <cain22> also says my version is 2.4.1 still
[15-May-2009 15:08:25] <cain22> how do i go about going back to the "complete backup" that the admin guide has you do?
[15-May-2009 15:11:49] <cain22> well, to be continued, just glad no one is using it to much yet
[15-May-2009 16:18:36] <rmatte> Have a good weekend everyone
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[16-May-2009 00:09:39] <mydog2> run across zabbix....
[16-May-2009 01:17:15] <kelvinq> hi, i'm having a problem understanding "data points" in multigraph. can anyone help?
[16-May-2009 10:29:53] <bitmonk1> Bonjour! I want to monitor some services over the private network interface of hosts, are there any facilities within Zenoss designed to help with this?
[16-May-2009 10:33:13] <bitmonk1> esp related to func in default zenpacks for things like mysql / postgresql
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[17-May-2009 08:02:32] <kelvinq> hello. can anyone help me with multigraphs?
[17-May-2009 09:32:19] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
[17-May-2009 09:55:20] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
[17-May-2009 12:29:57] <Bob1> does vmware zenpack detect virtual machines in zenoss core ?
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[18-May-2009 05:57:43] <raddy> Anybody there??
[18-May-2009 10:08:42] <perr0> Good Day Matt, do you have the ticket # handy for the FreeBSD installation issues?
[18-May-2009 10:08:57] <perr0> I seemed to have misplaced it
[18-May-2009 10:10:13] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006 ?
[18-May-2009 10:10:58] <mrayzenoss> or this one? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4994
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[18-May-2009 11:10:46] <perr0> mrayzenoss: I thought you opened up a new ticket but if this one is it then ok. Cause I am unable to install the 2.4 on freebsd for two reasons so far gettext and freetype2.
[18-May-2009 11:13:53] <perr0> I replaced gettext-017 with the previous version and it doesn't break at that point anymore but then it breaks when it gets to freetype2 and when I build it by hand inside of /home/zenoss/zenoss-version-4/buid/freetype2 it breaks
[18-May-2009 11:14:23] <perr0> i've tried two versions thus far same result?
[18-May-2009 12:20:38] <mrayzenoss> sorry, I was out at lunch
[18-May-2009 12:21:03] <mrayzenoss> feel free to open another ticket, I just assumed that 4994 would roll-up any build changes needed
[18-May-2009 13:03:11] <ctaloi> hey all - just getting my feet wet with zenoss, i'm on 2.4.0 stack installed (centos) is there an "easy" or "correct" way to upgrade to 2.4.1? I came across the 1k+ snmp reply bug and would like to upgrade
[18-May-2009 13:03:56] <mrayzenoss> The Installation Guide chapter 8 covers upgrading the stack installer http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[18-May-2009 13:04:03] <mrayzenoss> it's not very complicated
[18-May-2009 13:04:55] <ctaloi> okay, thanks - reading that now
[18-May-2009 14:23:13] <chudler> cool. Zenpack contest time again.
[18-May-2009 14:23:22] <chudler> http://blog.zenoss.com/2009/05/17/summer-of-community-zenpacks-contest/ Any good ideas? :-p
[18-May-2009 14:25:32] <chudler> lots of people want netflow integration.. . hm well, I probably don't have enough spare time
[18-May-2009 14:26:48] <mrayzenoss> There is a Netflow in Enterprise, provided by Plixxer: http://www.zenoss.com/product/plixer-scrutinizer
[18-May-2009 14:27:05] <mrayzenoss> but I'm sure you could make a Community version
[18-May-2009 14:28:31] <chudler> mrayzenoss: ! never saw that, wow. Anyway, I don't intend to do community version of any enterprise. It would produce appearance of impropriety, since I am an enterprise user.
[18-May-2009 14:29:00] <mrayzenoss> ahh, didn't know that
[18-May-2009 14:29:19] <mrayzenoss> well, feel free to enter other ZenPacks
[18-May-2009 15:00:20] <perr0> are we able to make comments in the dev tickets?
[18-May-2009 15:01:45] <mrayzenoss> I think so
[18-May-2009 15:01:49] <mrayzenoss> zenoss/zenoss
[18-May-2009 15:10:47] <perr0> thanks
[18-May-2009 17:33:56] <mrayzenoss> ugh, just deleted 25 spam posts
[18-May-2009 20:37:48] <shood> Any zenoss'ers here know where/when the zenoss training begins tomorrow in annapolis?
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[19-May-2009 04:15:48] <eNeRGi> hey
[19-May-2009 04:16:13] <eNeRGi> does anyone here have a tip as to where I should start looking for example on how to implement a custom collector?
[19-May-2009 04:16:21] <eNeRGi> actually, I'm not even sure that I need a totally new collector
[19-May-2009 04:16:41] <eNeRGi> what I want/need to do is to correct the swap/memory readings from a machine that does not report there
[19-May-2009 04:17:29] <eNeRGi> I've created my own OIDs where I correctly report the values (SNMP is the only way to access the machine), and now I need zenoss to read these values from these custom OIDs instead of the regular one (that doesn't work)
[19-May-2009 04:17:37] <eNeRGi> any tips on where to start?
[19-May-2009 04:21:40] <eNeRGi> or to refine my question: is there anyway to start this without having to dig through the whole source just to understand what does what?
[19-May-2009 06:41:10] <eNeRGi> :/
[19-May-2009 08:56:54] <jb> anyone know where the rrd files for multi-graph reports are stored?
[19-May-2009 08:57:15] <chudler> I think they are generated on the fly. Not sure.
[19-May-2009 08:57:28] <jb> hmmm
[19-May-2009 08:57:35] <jb> okey
[19-May-2009 08:59:14] <cain22> hello all
[19-May-2009 09:00:03] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[19-May-2009 09:05:14] <rmatte> hmmm, I'm trying to change the Legend value for threshold graph points but they never get populated in to the graph
[19-May-2009 09:05:22] <rmatte> they just stay with the graphpoint ID
[19-May-2009 09:07:05] <rmatte> any ideas?
[19-May-2009 09:07:51] <rocket> morning matt
[19-May-2009 09:09:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: not sure it'll update the RRD graph
[19-May-2009 09:10:10] <mrayzenoss> without removing the old image
[19-May-2009 09:10:14] <mrayzenoss> RRD is kinda finicky
[19-May-2009 09:10:25] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 09:10:45] <rmatte> usually updates regular datapoints
[19-May-2009 09:10:49] <rmatte> just not thresholds
[19-May-2009 09:11:53] <rmatte> oh well
[19-May-2009 09:12:01] <cgibbons_> finicky... how polite
[19-May-2009 09:16:13] <cain22> anyone loose their perf data after the upgrade?
[19-May-2009 09:20:37] <chudler> I have a question for anyone :-)
[19-May-2009 09:20:44] <chudler> In a zenpack, if I do
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> target = getattr(sys.modules['Products.ZenEvents.zenactions'], 'ZenActions')
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> @monkeypatch(target)
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> def blah(self):
[19-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> pass
[19-May-2009 09:21:14] <chudler> should it add "blah" to the class ZenActions? Also, why don't instances of ZenActions get that method?
[19-May-2009 09:21:20] <chudler> I thought python had meta-classes
[19-May-2009 09:23:03] <chudler> and this is part of __init__.py in the zenpack. It just doesn't seem to add the method to instances of ZenActions.
[19-May-2009 09:42:34] <rocket> chudler: did you reapply the zenpack?
[19-May-2009 09:42:55] <rocket> chudler: some of those items only seem to be updated when the zenpack is reinstalled
[19-May-2009 09:44:57] <chudler> rocket: thanks. I think I figured it out. zenactions.py runs in it's own interpreter! Extending it through any method will fail, except directly patching.
[19-May-2009 09:45:40] <chudler> However, it is possible to re-define actionTypes at runtime, which is what led me to believe I could define a new function as well.
[19-May-2009 09:46:59] <chudler> this is unfortunate, because I really wanted a zenpack that would define a new alert mechanism :*(
[19-May-2009 09:47:24] <rocket> chudler: what kind of alert mechanizm?
[19-May-2009 09:47:30] <rocket> err mechanism?
[19-May-2009 09:47:40] <chudler> xmpp
[19-May-2009 09:48:33] <huggie> Ah, heh. We're going to look at doing that at some point.
[19-May-2009 09:48:48] <huggie> Though I was hoping there would be a reasonable Email -> Jabber gateway we could just use.
[19-May-2009 09:49:38] <rocket> chudler: have you thought about running a jabber bot that just collects the email and forwards it on via a subscription or somesuch?
[19-May-2009 09:50:30] <chudler> I already have a jabber bot that does alerting and things, but I want to change to be more integrated with zenoss.
[19-May-2009 09:50:55] <chudler> I have tons of stuff duplicated from ZenEvent code, and it just sucks.
[19-May-2009 09:51:50] <chudler> making a new sendBlah() in ZenActions would hugely simplify things. I have patched it myself, but that won't work for a zenpack.
[19-May-2009 09:52:20] <rocket> chudler: If I have time I will take a look and see if it is possible from a zenpack ..
[19-May-2009 09:58:50] <rmatte> hmmm, I have an OID that I'm polling for CPU utilization on a Windows servers, the problem is that the OID is for the last minute of CPU utilization, when it reality I want to watch it over the last 5 minutes to avoid getting threshold alerts when the CPU happens to spike for a bit, any other OID that anyone knows of? Any way to set the thresholds to only trigger after being over threshold for 2 or more polling cycles?
[19-May-2009 10:09:32] <mrayzenoss> you mean like laloadint5?
[19-May-2009 10:09:40] <mrayzenoss> I guess that's load
[19-May-2009 10:19:03] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 10:29:43] <cain22> mrayzenoss: I receive the following error in zenhub "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/srv/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)")
[19-May-2009 10:29:54] <cain22> how do i go around fixing that?
[19-May-2009 10:30:11] <cain22> MySQL --status
[19-May-2009 10:30:20] <cain22> er..
[19-May-2009 10:46:42] <mrayzenoss> I assume mysql is running?
[19-May-2009 10:46:49] <mrayzenoss> and your creds are right?
[19-May-2009 10:56:04] <csgeek> hey guys... if I want to monitor a server using ZenOss, do I need to install anything on the server, like snmp, or a special software it needs to run?
[19-May-2009 10:56:58] <mrayzenoss> SNMP is probably the easiest
[19-May-2009 11:16:08] <pinball> or just monitor it via tcp checks
[19-May-2009 11:16:39] <mrayzenoss> true, ping and tcp checks require nothing installed. SSH is probably running on the server as well
[19-May-2009 11:29:29] <rmatte> the SNMP monitoring requires that scripts be installed on the system being monitored though, correct?
[19-May-2009 11:29:48] <rmatte> it's not intelligent enough to just pull from stuff like "df" "free", etc...?
[19-May-2009 11:30:47] <mrayzenoss> the snmpd package for your platform should handle all the basics
[19-May-2009 11:30:52] <mrayzenoss> you don't need to install anything else
[19-May-2009 11:31:01] <mrayzenoss> "apt-get install snmpd" works for debian/ubuntu
[19-May-2009 11:32:01] <pinball> or yum install net-snmp for linux
[19-May-2009 11:32:16] <pinball> yum search net-snmp ; as it could be called net-snmp-utils etc..
[19-May-2009 11:36:18] <rmatte> sorry, I meant to say the ssh monitoring
[19-May-2009 11:36:46] <mrayzenoss> ahh, ok. For 2.4, there is the new Linux Monitor ZenPack
[19-May-2009 11:36:49] <mrayzenoss> it's completely remote
[19-May-2009 11:37:04] <rmatte> core or enterprise?
[19-May-2009 11:37:10] <mrayzenoss> Core
[19-May-2009 11:37:13] <rmatte> perfect
[19-May-2009 11:37:14] <mrayzenoss> but it doesn't give you everything you'd get with SNMP
[19-May-2009 11:37:27] <rmatte> yeh, we'd just use a combination of both
[19-May-2009 11:39:49] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/linux-monitor
[19-May-2009 11:40:06] <mrayzenoss> Linux Monitor does Filesystems and CPU
[19-May-2009 11:40:50] <mrayzenoss> it was initially supposed to be just for demonstration, to go with the docs trac-zenpacks/wiki/SshZenpack
[19-May-2009 11:41:05] <mrayzenoss> it just needs a couple of things to round it out
[19-May-2009 11:41:25] <rmatte> nice
[19-May-2009 11:41:46] <rmatte> by the way, how good is Zenoss for AIX monitoring?
[19-May-2009 11:42:15] <mrayzenoss> so rocket has an SNMP ZenPack he's working on for Core
[19-May-2009 11:42:24] <mrayzenoss> Enterprise has an SSH-AIX ZenPack
[19-May-2009 11:42:33] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 11:42:39] <mrayzenoss> and I'd love to get an entry in the ZenPacks contest for AIX for the Community
[19-May-2009 11:42:47] <rmatte> for sure
[19-May-2009 11:43:20] <skarphace> During the build after running install.sh, I get some strange errors when Python is being built. I actually see this: Parser/tokenizer.c:768: undefined reference to `stdout'. Running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p3. Suggestions?
[19-May-2009 11:43:24] <mrayzenoss> between the Linux Monitor and the docs, someone with AIX access should be able to get similar functionality pretty easily
[19-May-2009 11:44:11] <rmatte> yeh, I'm expected to possibly setup monitoring on over 100 AIX devices at some point, should be fun
[19-May-2009 11:44:37] <mrayzenoss> well, you get double credit for SSH-based entries in the ZenPack contest
[19-May-2009 11:45:40] <mrayzenoss> skarphace: there are some known build issues with FreeBSD, perr0 might be able to help you out.
[19-May-2009 11:46:02] <rmatte> I'm actually focussing more on Windows monitoring at the moment, finally got Zenoss monitoring CPU and Memory usage smoothly via the default windows SNMP agent
[19-May-2009 11:46:06] <rmatte> it was crazy tricky to do
[19-May-2009 11:47:14] <rmatte> whoever wrote that SNMP agent should burn
[19-May-2009 11:47:15] <rmatte> lol
[19-May-2009 11:48:35] <mrayzenoss> yeah, the MS SNMP agent kinda sucks
[19-May-2009 11:49:04] <mrayzenoss> BTW, I heard Server 2008 has SSH access, so you could probably do an SSH ZenPack for it too
[19-May-2009 11:51:42] <rmatte> mrayzenoss: ok, fair enough, I'm just not understanding what you want the ticket opened for in terms of the interfaces, what is the actual problem?
[19-May-2009 11:52:13] <skarphace> mrayzenoss: Thanks, I'll wait to see if he shows up.
[19-May-2009 11:55:31] <perr0> I can
[19-May-2009 12:25:26] <chudler> for those following along on my custom ZenAction. The minimal amount of code I could duplicate from ZenActions and still make it work is http://pastie.org/482987
[19-May-2009 12:26:13] <chudler> this is meant to be its own daemon inside the ZenPack, in addition (or inside) the Xmpp daemon. It runs the same loop ZenActions does to find events to send.
[19-May-2009 12:27:01] <chudler> I will update the original question, posted by me, at http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=28504#28504
[19-May-2009 12:31:14] <perr0> I would like to see someone ssh to server 2008.... I don't think I would want to do it myself.
[19-May-2009 12:41:19] <csgeek> I'm trying to get ZenJMX working with ZenOSS, assuming it's installed properly, should I see an option somewhere in the web interface to configure the options?
[19-May-2009 12:42:19] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: take a look at Chapter 9 of the Extended Monitoring Guide: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[19-May-2009 12:44:13] <csgeek> thanks mrayzenoss
[19-May-2009 12:44:20] <venturaville> anyone had much luck with adding new relations to devices?
[19-May-2009 12:44:58] <venturaville> I've got a zenpack todo HP blade chassis following the vmware model, but I need another pair of eyes to take a look at it and see what I am missing
[19-May-2009 12:45:38] <venturaville> 2009-05-19 12:42:25 INFO zen.ZenHub: Worker reports WARNING:zen.ApplyDataMap:no relationship:bladeservers found on:bld8se38a
[19-May-2009 12:47:54] <venturaville> takers?
[19-May-2009 12:55:40] <mrayzenoss> venturaville: have you taken a look at http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/hpmon ?
[19-May-2009 12:55:48] <mrayzenoss> he's got some updates I need to get published
[19-May-2009 12:56:55] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, thanks a lot that pdf was extremely helpful.
[19-May-2009 12:57:32] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: yeah, it's a new doc that I'm trying to publicize more
[19-May-2009 12:59:13] <venturaville> hpmon doesn't seem to work with the blade chassis themselves
[19-May-2009 12:59:18] <venturaville> only with the actual OS on the blades
[19-May-2009 12:59:54] <venturaville> HP blade chassis != HP chassis
[19-May-2009 13:04:50] <mrayzenoss> ahh, ok
[19-May-2009 13:06:02] <venturaville> I've got an egg file if you've got time to take a look?
[19-May-2009 13:06:55] <mrayzenoss> I'm about to step out for a while, but email me and I'll see about getting it published and entered into the ZenPack contest
[19-May-2009 13:07:06] <mrayzenoss> I don't have access to any HP hardware, but I can smoketest it at least
[19-May-2009 13:07:11] <venturaville> it isn't ready yet.. trying to get it debugged
[19-May-2009 13:08:01] <mrayzenoss> ahh, I'd say post a thread on the zenpacks mailing list looking for testers
[19-May-2009 13:08:18] <mrayzenoss> I think chudler did the same for his Sentry CDU ZenPack
[19-May-2009 13:08:53] <venturaville> will do
[19-May-2009 13:23:41] <csgeek> Okay.. so, I'm following the guide, trying to add a Data Source and it just sort of.. hangs there
[19-May-2009 13:31:08] <venturaville> csgeek: I have seen that before. click out and redoing it seems to work though
[19-May-2009 13:31:27] <venturaville> I chalk it up to some odd ajax bug
[19-May-2009 13:41:16] <rmatte> are there any limits on what characters can be used in datapoints?
[19-May-2009 13:41:31] <rmatte> could I make a datapoint name called OTTAWA-OUTSIDE-G0/0 for instance?
[19-May-2009 13:44:29] <csgeek> venturaville, I'm looking at the logs, and it's looking for a directory that doesn't exist... I'm using a VM app from the website, and for some reason, it's refering back to /home/marc/conary/....
[19-May-2009 13:44:35] <csgeek> ie. http://pastie.org/483099
[19-May-2009 13:52:43] <venturaville> csgeek: I think those are just debug messages from where it was done
[19-May-2009 13:52:45] <rmatte> ok, so datapoint names don't like slashes, any way to get around that?
[19-May-2009 13:52:52] <rmatte> or do I have to replace slashes with something else?
[19-May-2009 13:52:56] <venturaville> it isn't erroring about them
[19-May-2009 13:53:15] <venturaville> csgeek: looks like it doesn't like something in the text of what you put in
[19-May-2009 13:53:45] <venturaville> rmatte: have to replace them....
[19-May-2009 13:54:17] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: do you accept attachments on zenoss-zenpacks?
[19-May-2009 14:21:25] <csgeek> the fact that somewhere it still refers to /home/marc makes me nerveous though.. /home/marc doesn't exist on my machine at all
[19-May-2009 14:35:45] <skarphace> I received the following when doing a build on FreeBSD 7.1: ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[19-May-2009 14:35:50] <skarphace> iconv is installed.
[19-May-2009 14:36:06] <skarphace> /usr/include/sys/iconv.h
[19-May-2009 14:36:54] <mrayzenoss> sorry, stepped out for a bit.
[19-May-2009 14:37:05] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: which version of the VMware image are you seeing that?
[19-May-2009 14:37:24] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: /home/marc was from a long time ago, the first pass at the VMware image
[19-May-2009 14:37:33] <mrayzenoss> I sure hope it isn't still around
[19-May-2009 14:38:45] <csgeek> I'm not sure actually.. I'm going to grab the latest and see if there's any change
[19-May-2009 15:05:44] <baffle> I have a problem with my ZODB; I have an old object in the database that is still referenced, wich makes Products/ZenRelations/ToManyRelationship.py explode.. How can I purge these old references from the ZODB? I get errors like "AttributeError: 'XscfDevice' object has no attribute '__of__'"
[19-May-2009 15:06:24] <mrayzenoss> baffle: have you tried reindex() in zendmd?
[19-May-2009 15:06:30] <rmatte> zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:06:33] <rmatte> reindex()
[19-May-2009 15:06:35] <rmatte> commit()
[19-May-2009 15:06:57] <rmatte> (as zenoss user of course)
[19-May-2009 15:07:14] <baffle> Oh, just reindex?
[19-May-2009 15:07:18] <rmatte> correct
[19-May-2009 15:07:26] <rmatte> then commit when it's done
[19-May-2009 15:07:31] <rmatte> to write the changes back to the DB
[19-May-2009 15:08:18] <baffle> Oh, new error.
[19-May-2009 15:08:42] <rmatte> ?
[19-May-2009 15:08:57] <baffle> http://paste2.org/p/215792
[19-May-2009 15:09:28] <baffle> What I really want to get rid of is the XscfDevice.
[19-May-2009 15:11:18] <rmatte> when did this issue start occuring
[19-May-2009 15:11:29] <rmatte> is XscfDevice a device that you had added previously?
[19-May-2009 15:11:40] <mrayzenoss> or a previous ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:11:56] <baffle> rmatte: The issues has been there for ages; I have an ugly workaround wich means patching ToManyRelationship.py to work around it. :-D
[19-May-2009 15:12:36] <baffle> It's an old ZenPack (from pre 2.X) that I never was able to purge correctly. I just migrated from 32bit -> 6t4bit + new server, and now I want to get rid of these ugly patches..
[19-May-2009 15:13:36] <rmatte> hmmmm
[19-May-2009 15:13:51] <rmatte> might be something for someone like Chet (cluther) to take a look at
[19-May-2009 15:13:57] <rmatte> he's good at debugging weird stuff like that
[19-May-2009 15:14:05] <mrayzenoss> I just tried to grab him but he's in a planning meeting
[19-May-2009 15:14:09] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 15:14:20] <mrayzenoss> he suggested an issue with an old ZenPack
[19-May-2009 15:14:28] <mrayzenoss> which baffle confirmed
[19-May-2009 15:14:34] <rmatte> yeh
[19-May-2009 15:15:20] <rmatte> there's probably some zendmd command which would be like delete blah from blah where blah equals XscfDevice
[19-May-2009 15:15:30] <baffle> Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well.
[19-May-2009 15:16:36] <baffle> I just have no idea how to crawl it.
[19-May-2009 15:17:22] <rmatte> have you checked to see if you can find it in the management interface?
[19-May-2009 15:17:32] <rmatte> http://<myzenoss>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage
[19-May-2009 15:18:17] <rmatte> hmmm, apparently this type of problem is specific to .zip zenpacks
[19-May-2009 15:19:51] <mrayzenoss> baffle: do you have the original ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:20:26] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Probably. 1 sec.
[19-May-2009 15:20:39] <mrayzenoss> zip zenpacks installed into the Products directory, you could probably manually remove it
[19-May-2009 15:20:50] <mrayzenoss> find what was installed and make sure it's removed
[19-May-2009 15:21:08] <rmatte> yeh, but didn't they also place some stuff in Zope?
[19-May-2009 15:21:19] <rmatte> I think there's something left over in Zope, which is causing the issue
[19-May-2009 15:21:21] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It is a clean install, and I think I've purged all the files..
[19-May-2009 15:21:32] <mrayzenoss> nuts, so it's in zodb
[19-May-2009 15:25:54] <rmatte> you could try:
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> >>> for p in dmd.packs():
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> ... print p.id # This line indented 2 spaces
[19-May-2009 15:25:55] <rmatte> ... # Just press Return key
[19-May-2009 15:26:01] <rmatte> which will list installed zenpacks
[19-May-2009 15:26:04] <rmatte> see if you see it there
[19-May-2009 15:29:15] <csgeek> so.. I updated to the latest VM, so running 2.4 .. and getting the same behavior and error. It's still refering to /home/marc
[19-May-2009 15:30:05] <mrayzenoss> I asked our QA manager about it, he said he thought there were still references to that around
[19-May-2009 15:30:15] <mrayzenoss> where are you seeing it again?
[19-May-2009 15:30:58] <baffle> mrayzenoss: http://open.eunet.no/Products_Xscf.tgz
[19-May-2009 15:31:17] <mrayzenoss> baffle: you trying to mess up my install too
[19-May-2009 15:32:00] <csgeek> so... brand new setup right, I install the ZenJMX module, so downloaded the eggfile, then I did a zenpack --install ZenJMX.egg
[19-May-2009 15:32:13] <mrayzenoss> most recent JMX?
[19-May-2009 15:32:15] <baffle> rmatte: No zenpacks.
[19-May-2009 15:32:19] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, yes
[19-May-2009 15:32:35] <csgeek> add device, add template, add date binding (freezes on data binding)
[19-May-2009 15:32:58] <csgeek> http://dev.zenoss.com/downloads/zenoss-core-zenpacks/individual/ZenPacks.zenoss.ZenJMX-3.1.6-py2.4.egg (this is the version I've used )
[19-May-2009 15:33:10] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[19-May-2009 15:33:58] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: could you post the stack trace again?
[19-May-2009 15:34:01] <csgeek> so.. once I try to add the data source, it gets into that weird state and tosses error refering to /home/marc and /home/zenoss
[19-May-2009 15:34:03] <csgeek> event log
[19-May-2009 15:34:07] <csgeek> mrayzenoss, sure.. coming up
[19-May-2009 15:34:44] <csgeek> http://pastie.org/483263
[19-May-2009 15:35:40] <baffle> rmatte: I have a few zenpacks installed, shouldn't they turn up as well? Or aren't they migrated with ZenBackup..
[19-May-2009 15:36:13] <mrayzenoss> ZenPacks don't get migrated yet, there's a ticket for that somewhere
[19-May-2009 15:36:29] <rmatte> baffle: you should certainly see something there
[19-May-2009 15:36:46] <rmatte> go to http://<myzenoss>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage and click on packs
[19-May-2009 15:36:50] <rmatte> is anything listed?
[19-May-2009 15:39:02] <csgeek> clicked on packs, shows ZenPack.zenoss.ZenJMS (package is broken)
[19-May-2009 15:39:18] <baffle> rmatte: Yeah, all my previously installed packs (minus Xscf) is there.
[19-May-2009 15:39:19] <csgeek> I click on the pack and I get... This object is broken because the unknown product that created it is no longer installed or is installed incorrectly. Please contact the product maintainer for assistance.
[19-May-2009 15:39:19] <csgeek> Note that the data associated with this product has not been lost, and will be accessible again if the product is reinstalled.
[19-May-2009 15:39:33] <mrayzenoss> csgeek: do a zenoss restart
[19-May-2009 15:39:46] <mrayzenoss> did you do that after installing the ZenPack?
[19-May-2009 15:39:57] <csgeek> I don't believe so..
[19-May-2009 15:40:21] <mrayzenoss> ugh, we need to find a way to force that to happen
[19-May-2009 15:40:49] <mrayzenoss> 9 times out of 10 you need to restart zope at least when installing a new ZenPack
[19-May-2009 15:41:05] <mrayzenoss> sometimes zenhub and zeo depending on what the ZenPack does
[19-May-2009 15:41:33] <rmatte> baffle: try:
[19-May-2009 15:41:34] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> >>> for p in dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> ... p.manager.obj = dmd.ZenPackManager # this line indented 1 space
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> ... # Just hit return here, nothing on this line
[19-May-2009 15:41:35] <rmatte> >>> commit()
[19-May-2009 15:41:36] <rmatte> >>> # ctl-d to exit zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:42:21] <csgeek> beautiful.. that fixed it
[19-May-2009 15:42:39] <mrayzenoss> sorry, that should have been the first thing I told you to try
[19-May-2009 15:42:53] <rmatte> baffle: you can also try:
[19-May-2009 15:42:55] <rmatte> zenoss$ zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:42:55] <rmatte> >>> dmd.packs._delObect("XscfDevice")
[19-May-2009 15:44:24] <rmatte> hmmm, baffle...
[19-May-2009 15:44:33] <rmatte> navigate to $ZENHOME/Products
[19-May-2009 15:44:40] <rmatte> see if there is any sort of Xscf folder there?
[19-May-2009 15:44:58] <rmatte> because I just downloaded the pack and extracted it, all I see is XscfDevice.py so far
[19-May-2009 15:46:25] <rmatte> hmmm, let me examine some of these python files, might be able to find a solution...
[19-May-2009 15:47:50] <baffle> rmatte: There isn't in this new install, no.
[19-May-2009 15:48:36] <baffle> rmatte: It's not the complete pack I think, these are residue files from the old installation.
[19-May-2009 15:48:58] <rmatte> I think the problem relates back to this function that I found in one of the files:
[19-May-2009 15:48:59] <rmatte> InitializeClass(XscfDevice)
[19-May-2009 15:49:13] <rmatte> now I just need to find a way to remove that class using zendmd
[19-May-2009 15:54:04] <caseyh20> hey, perr0, did you get past the iconv.h issue?
[19-May-2009 15:56:05] <rmatte> ok, I have something else for your to try baffle
[19-May-2009 15:56:16] <baffle> rmatte: Sweet. :-)
[19-May-2009 15:56:20] <rmatte> go to http://<myzenoss>:8080/manage and login with the admin account
[19-May-2009 15:56:38] <rmatte> on the left you'll see "Products" expand that
[19-May-2009 15:57:07] <perr0> hi casey
[19-May-2009 15:57:21] <perr0> are you reffering to the gettext issue?
[19-May-2009 15:57:22] <rmatte> look for anything that says Xscf
[19-May-2009 15:57:27] <caseyh20> yes
[19-May-2009 15:57:53] <perr0> yep I downloaded the previous version of it remember gettext-016
[19-May-2009 15:58:00] <caseyh20> I haven't had a chance to mess with it the last few days
[19-May-2009 15:58:15] <baffle> rmatte: Hmm, can't really see Products..
[19-May-2009 15:58:19] <perr0> but then it failed on freetype2
[19-May-2009 15:58:27] <baffle> Ah, under Control Panel.
[19-May-2009 15:58:38] <rmatte> yes
[19-May-2009 15:58:43] <rmatte> click on Products
[19-May-2009 15:58:50] <rmatte> then in the right pane looks for Xscf
[19-May-2009 15:58:51] <baffle> Yes, found Xscf there.
[19-May-2009 15:59:03] <rmatte> perfect, put a checkmark next to it, then scroll down and click Delete
[19-May-2009 15:59:05] <perr0> I tried building freetype2 manually and it fails. Something is wrong with the code. I don't know. I know I am not the only user with this problem.
[19-May-2009 15:59:08] <rmatte> after that, try a reindex
[19-May-2009 16:00:06] <caseyh20> right, how exactly did you get it past the gettext issue? installed the old version and then ran the zenoss installer?
[19-May-2009 16:00:15] <perr0> ya
[19-May-2009 16:00:23] <rmatte> reindex() then commit()
[19-May-2009 16:00:26] <perr0> make sure to comment out the patch
[19-May-2009 16:00:30] <rmatte> (provided it runs through)
[19-May-2009 16:00:37] <caseyh20> in rrddeps.sh?
[19-May-2009 16:00:39] <perr0> I just backed them up to a seperate folder
[19-May-2009 16:00:42] <perr0> ya
[19-May-2009 16:00:47] <caseyh20> k
[19-May-2009 16:00:51] <caseyh20> ill give it a try now
[19-May-2009 16:01:37] <perr0> I've talked to a couple of other ppl who say they have it installed but they had someone else do it at their job
[19-May-2009 16:01:46] <baffle> rmatte: Hmm, nope, same error as before..
[19-May-2009 16:02:07] <rmatte> hmmm
[19-May-2009 16:02:12] <rmatte> try restarting Zenoss
[19-May-2009 16:02:16] <rmatte> then try the reindex again
[19-May-2009 16:02:28] <caseyh20> right
[19-May-2009 16:02:38] <caseyh20> I am going to try to get it working today
[19-May-2009 16:02:44] <perr0> well I have to get back to work (really busy) ping if you get past freetype2
[19-May-2009 16:02:50] <caseyh20> will do
[19-May-2009 16:05:38] <baffle> rmatte: http://paste2.org/p/215868 <- Looks the same.
[19-May-2009 16:07:20] <rmatte> ok, so at least we know the product info in the database has been removed now...
[19-May-2009 16:11:21] <rmatte> yeh, this is definitely a Chet Luther type issue at this point, I can't figure it out
[19-May-2009 16:13:00] <baffle> rmatte: Thanks for your help anyway. Not sure if I want to apply my ugly kludgy patches or wait till he comes around. :-) At this point a lot of service checks are failing..
[19-May-2009 16:13:38] <rmatte> he might not be around until tomorrow
[19-May-2009 16:14:19] <baffle> Hmm, maybe I'll temporarily apply the patches..
[19-May-2009 16:14:30] <rmatte> might be an idea
[19-May-2009 16:23:27] <baffle> rmatte: The ugly kludges I have to add: http://paste2.org/p/215889
[19-May-2009 16:23:36] <baffle> rmatte: Sorry for the norwegian. :-)
[19-May-2009 16:31:40] <baffle> Ugh, wich doesn't seem to apply cleanly anymore..
[19-May-2009 16:43:56] <sergeymasushko> if zencommand pooling devices every 60 seconds... how often RRD updates?
[19-May-2009 16:45:02] <mrayzenoss> I believe that's a function of the RRDCreate setting
[19-May-2009 16:45:52] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: Collectors->localhost->Edit "Default RRD Create Command"
[19-May-2009 16:46:08] <sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: thanks...
[19-May-2009 16:46:17] <mrayzenoss> but I'm not sure changes go into effect unless you wipe the RRD files
[19-May-2009 16:46:28] <mrayzenoss> I may be wrong, but that's where the setting is
[19-May-2009 16:48:31] <mrayzenoss> sergeymasushko: actually, it looks like you can set that per/datasource
[19-May-2009 16:49:06] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.4.0/ch06s02.html#d4e2424
[19-May-2009 17:56:54] <sergeymasushko> does Cisco MIBs zenpack better then installing a separate mib file?
[19-May-2009 18:34:13] <rmatte> The Cisco Mibs pack installs all publicly available Cisco Mibs, but if you only need a specific Mib then you could try installing it by hand
[19-May-2009 18:34:27] <rmatte> A lot of the Cisco Mibs are dependant on other Cisco Mibs though
[19-May-2009 18:34:33] <rmatte> I had a heck of a time making that pack
[19-May-2009 18:35:04] <rmatte> had to modify a few of the Mibs so that they would load
[19-May-2009 18:37:07] <sergeymasushko> ok. if I install the zenpack will the zenoss correctly model/monitor interfaces...
[19-May-2009 18:37:30] <rmatte> the Cisco Mibs are only for translating incoming traps, they don't assist with modelling
[19-May-2009 18:37:54] <rmatte> though I'm monitoring a ton of Cisco devices and Zenoss' modelling it sufficient for picking pretty much everything up
[19-May-2009 18:44:46] <baffle> rmatte: Any idea how I could patch up my ToManyRelationship.py so that ZenOss 2.4 works?
[19-May-2009 18:44:54] <baffle> (With my bug..)
[19-May-2009 18:45:02] <sergeymasushko> heh.. then why I get a lot of events e.g. Error reading value for "Voice Encapsulation (POTS) Peer: 103" on cisco01.litespan.net (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.209 is bad)
[19-May-2009 18:46:05] <baffle> rmatte: I once tried modelling one of my border routers, that was fun. Somehow ZenOss didn't like getting a full BGP table.. :-)
[19-May-2009 18:47:18] <rmatte> yeh, I've had that issue before too, had to turn off the route discovery for a few devices
[19-May-2009 18:47:34] <rmatte> or crank up the timeouts to some insane value when modelling and then enable only local routes
[19-May-2009 18:48:07] <baffle> rmatte: I first did #1 then #2 later I think.
[19-May-2009 18:48:08] <rmatte> you're getting those events for the POTS interfaces because you probably haven't created any specific interface templates for them
[19-May-2009 18:48:59] <rmatte> you need to click on that interface on that device, check the interface type, then copy the ethernetCsmacd template, then rename it to the exact type shows on that interface (case sensitive)
[19-May-2009 18:49:07] <rmatte> then delete or replace the values that it's complaining about
[19-May-2009 18:49:11] <rmatte> then problem solved
[19-May-2009 18:49:18] <rmatte> either that, or don't monitor those interfaces
[19-May-2009 18:49:36] <sergeymasushko> I need to monitor them...
[19-May-2009 18:49:58] <sergeymasushko> heh... thanks for the point.
[19-May-2009 18:50:11] <rmatte> then create custom templates, I had to create a custom template for each interface type
[19-May-2009 18:50:14] <rmatte> I have like 20 of them lol
[19-May-2009 18:53:19] <baffle> rmatte: Do you work for ZenOss or are you just very into it?
[19-May-2009 18:53:40] <rmatte> I'm just very in to it
[19-May-2009 18:53:48] <rmatte> I'm the Zenoss admin at my company
[19-May-2009 18:54:12] <rmatte> been using it heavily for 6 months now, learned all sorts of neat little tricks
[19-May-2009 18:54:22] <rmatte> and I still have tons to learn
[19-May-2009 18:54:34] <caseyh20> thats cool
[19-May-2009 18:54:57] <caseyh20> is zenoss administration all you do? or do you have other duties as well?
[19-May-2009 18:55:29] <rmatte> it's like 90% of what I do, and since I'm a good scripter I also write up scripts on demand for the engineers here
[19-May-2009 18:55:44] <caseyh20> nice
[19-May-2009 18:56:06] <rmatte> for instance, one of the engineers needed a script that logs in, performs a "sh ip int brie | inc up up" on like 300 Cisco routers, so I wrote it up and sent him the report text file when I was done running it
[19-May-2009 18:56:58] <rmatte> right now I just finished writing a custom script for use with Zenoss which collects IP SLA statistics from one of our client's core routers via SNMP
[19-May-2009 18:57:04] <rmatte> now I'm integrating it with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 18:57:17] <caseyh20> nice
[19-May-2009 18:57:20] <sergeymasushko> cool
[19-May-2009 18:57:33] <caseyh20> I am still trying to upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.4.0
[19-May-2009 18:57:37] <caseyh20> =(
[19-May-2009 18:57:41] <rmatte> it's basically just going to graph packet loss and jitters stats that are collected by the core router for all of the spoke routers
[19-May-2009 18:57:59] <rmatte> well, upgrade to 2.4.1 if anything
[19-May-2009 18:58:03] <rmatte> has a couple of bug fixes
[19-May-2009 18:58:21] <baffle> Wheee!
[19-May-2009 18:58:30] <rmatte> all our boxes are still running 2.3.3, I need time to play with 2.4.1 on my lab box before I upgrade any of our production systems
[19-May-2009 18:58:30] <baffle> rmatte: Yes, I run 2.4.1 actually.
[19-May-2009 18:59:11] <baffle> rmatte: I was running 2.3.3, but the server running it was woefully out of resources.. Big gaps in graphs, would error out all the time, zenmodeller was disabled because it made the machine swap.. Etc..
[19-May-2009 18:59:23] <caseyh20> no bueno
[19-May-2009 18:59:31] <rmatte> ah
[19-May-2009 18:59:40] <baffle> rmatte: So I migrated to 2.4.1 on a new server.. And now it just worked too! No errors yet at least. :-) Seems my lame python hacks worked..
[19-May-2009 18:59:43] <rmatte> our boxes are running relatively smoothly
[19-May-2009 18:59:47] <caseyh20> yeah, the 2.4x source doesn't like to compile on FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 18:59:58] <rmatte> especially the box that monitors our biggest client, after all the tweaking I've done it's running like a dream
[19-May-2009 19:00:03] <baffle> Oh, there ZenPing died.
[19-May-2009 19:00:20] <rmatte> We're running Ubuntu Server, works great with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 19:00:28] <rmatte> might want to look at running that over FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:01:10] <rmatte> FreeBSD is nice, but Linux has better overall support, one of the reasons why I made the switch from FreeBSD to Linux after using FreeBSD for 5 years
[19-May-2009 19:01:44] <caseyh20> right, but we use jails, it is actually one machine, might try ubuntu if I can get a raid card that is supported by ESXi
[19-May-2009 19:02:12] <rmatte> ah, yeh FreeBSD's jail feature is very nice, but I believe you can setup something comparable in Linux, never tried
[19-May-2009 19:02:34] <rmatte> we just run ESX on our blade servers then run virtual Ubuntu servers off of that
[19-May-2009 19:02:37] <rmatte> easier to manage
[19-May-2009 19:02:52] <baffle> rmatte: I switched from FreeBSD to Linux around 4.6-4.8 I think.. Last I ran was 5.X release on an aging Sun Enterprise 450..
[19-May-2009 19:03:15] <rmatte> last I ran was like 6.1 I think
[19-May-2009 19:03:20] <rmatte> can't remember
[19-May-2009 19:03:28] <caseyh20> we are running 7.2
[19-May-2009 19:03:33] <sergeymasushko> I ran on a freeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:03:45] <rmatte> I used to use FreeBSD on my desktop computer at home
[19-May-2009 19:03:51] <baffle> caseyh20: Personally I'm getting really tired of ESXi now; We have a few customers running it.. Either go ESX, or run KVM/XEN. (I prefer the latter..)
[19-May-2009 19:04:27] <rmatte> we're running ESXi
[19-May-2009 19:04:33] <sergeymasushko> oh... FreeBSD on a desctop it's a religion
[19-May-2009 19:04:38] <caseyh20> We want to try ESXi and if we like it upgrade to ESX and vSphere 4. I don't like KVM/XEN
[19-May-2009 19:05:06] <caseyh20> I use Mac, the FreeBSD desktop distros are too unstable for my liking
[19-May-2009 19:05:09] <rmatte> yeh, I used to be super heavy in to FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:05:26] <rmatte> I'd setup my desktop from the ground up using just base FreeBSD
[19-May-2009 19:05:32] <rmatte> I never used any of the desktop distros
[19-May-2009 19:05:40] <caseyh20> yeah, I have done that before
[19-May-2009 19:05:45] <rmatte> took like a week of compiling lol
[19-May-2009 19:05:47] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: +1
[19-May-2009 19:05:49] <rmatte> but it was nice once it was done
[19-May-2009 19:05:49] <caseyh20> lol
[19-May-2009 19:06:27] <sergeymasushko> my previous desctop OS was gentoo
that's terrible![19-May-2009 19:06:41] <rmatte> yeh, gentoo was my first desktop linux OS
[19-May-2009 19:06:59] <baffle> Compiling KDE was the worst.
[19-May-2009 19:07:14] <rmatte> went from FreeBSD to Gentoo, then I finally migrated my FreeBSD server over to Gentoo as well, then I got sick of using Gentoo on my desktop so I switched to Ubuntu
[19-May-2009 19:07:19] <baffle> You really *had* to set up distcc.
[19-May-2009 19:07:21] <rmatte> I still have Gentoo running on my server
[19-May-2009 19:07:25] <rmatte> Linux dark 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 #4 SMP Sat Oct 18 23:22:09 EDT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[19-May-2009 19:07:30] <rmatte> 19:46:01 up 212 days, 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[19-May-2009 19:07:37] <rmatte> losing my uptime soon, moving to a new apartment
[19-May-2009 19:08:02] <sergeymasushko> heh
[19-May-2009 19:08:11] <baffle> rmatte: I lost my "uptime server" 1/2 year ago.. I had passed 2100 days.
[19-May-2009 19:08:14] <rmatte> yeh, I never really used distcc, just bit my tongue and waiting out the compile
[19-May-2009 19:08:22] <rmatte> lol, crazy
[19-May-2009 19:08:31] <rmatte> this is a server sitting in my apartment though
[19-May-2009 19:08:34] <rmatte> not a work server
[19-May-2009 19:08:59] <rmatte> it's hooked up to a little APC UPS unit
[19-May-2009 19:09:11] <rmatte> but any power outage lasting more than 15 mins and it's dead
[19-May-2009 19:09:26] <rmatte> the last outage was due to an electrical fire
[19-May-2009 19:09:37] <rmatte> I'd be at almost a year uptime had that not happened
[19-May-2009 19:10:13] <baffle> rmatte: We had a fire in one of our datacenters 1/2 year ago.. That was fun..
[19-May-2009 19:11:20] <baffle> rmatte: The main big UPS (wich handled A+B power) melted. Design fault, it was only 9 months old. Happy days!
[19-May-2009 19:11:45] * baffle was very confused when sitting at home and everything except 1 of the core switches was up (48V)
[19-May-2009 19:11:52] <rmatte> yikes
[19-May-2009 19:11:55] <baffle> Err, reverse that.
[19-May-2009 19:12:04] <baffle> Everything was down, except..
[19-May-2009 19:12:09] <rmatte> hehe
[19-May-2009 19:12:10] <sergeymasushko> we have an interesting situation
need to reboot one server but we can't because "dongle key" is hung and new one we are still not received.[19-May-2009 19:12:19] <rmatte> eugh, I have to add 64 datapoints by hand for this script
[19-May-2009 19:13:17] <baffle> rmatte: Have you looked at making your own modeller-scripts yet? We haven't been successful yet, haven't really seen any good examples..
[19-May-2009 19:13:35] <baffle> Hmm, I really should release the SNMP-agent we made soon..
[19-May-2009 19:14:01] <rmatte> nah, haven't gotten in to modeller scripts yet
[19-May-2009 19:14:03] <baffle> (Modular python agent, does bind/apache/memcached etc..
[19-May-2009 19:14:07] <rmatte> probably will at some point
[19-May-2009 19:14:20] <rmatte> just been making command scripts for performance monitoring, getting good at it
[19-May-2009 19:14:53] <rmatte> the command scripts are written in bash though since that's what I'm best at
[19-May-2009 19:15:03] <rmatte> I'm getting a bit better at python, still lots to learn though
[19-May-2009 19:16:50] <baffle> Hmm, would be cool if the SNMP routemap used in Linux actually supported all the separate routing tables.. And if ZenOss actually supported the concept of separate routing tables..
[19-May-2009 19:17:48] <rmatte> yeh, there are a lot of "would be nice" cases with Zenoss
[19-May-2009 19:17:59] <rmatte> I'm just waiting for them to make templates for flexible
[19-May-2009 19:18:06] <rmatte> more flexible*
[19-May-2009 19:18:07] <rmatte> rather
[19-May-2009 19:21:01] <sergeymasushko> hmmm.
[19-May-2009 19:21:10] <sergeymasushko> is it critical?
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> 2009-05-19T20:16:24 ERROR RenderServer Failed to generate a graph
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.py", line 190, in render
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> rrdtool.graph(*gopts)
[19-May-2009 19:21:11] <sergeymasushko> error
[19-May-2009 19:22:33] <baffle> sergeymasushko: RRD missing? RRD wrong?
[19-May-2009 19:23:01] <sergeymasushko> dunno... just observer logs...
[19-May-2009 19:24:07] <rmatte> weird, no idea
[19-May-2009 19:27:00] <rmatte> well, time for a smoke, brb
[19-May-2009 19:47:38] <sergeymasushko> 2009-05-19T00:41:10 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2e, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /VirtualHostBase/https/zenoss.mycompany.net:443/VirtualHostRoot/zport/RenderServer/render (2068 conflicts, of which 6 were unresolved, since startup at Thu May 14 11:28:04 2009)
[19-May-2009 19:47:39] <sergeymasushko> what does it mean?
[19-May-2009 20:01:10] <perr0> caseyh20: what up with zenoss?
[19-May-2009 20:01:58] <perr0> I'll hit you up later code push is done here.
[19-May-2009 20:21:12] <rmatte> sergeymasushko: you might have to go in to zendmd and do a reindex() and a commit()
[19-May-2009 20:26:24] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: wow. look at this... http://pastebin.com/d7e87168c
[19-May-2009 20:28:27] <rmatte> run dmd.Devices.reIndex() in zendmd
[19-May-2009 20:28:43] <rmatte> then do reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:28:46] <rmatte> and commit()
[19-May-2009 20:32:08] <sergeymasushko> hm... zendmd is so slow... still waiting reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:34:24] <rmatte> reindex can take a while
[19-May-2009 20:34:34] <rmatte> depending on how many devices/records you have
[19-May-2009 20:35:09] <sergeymasushko> ok. now I should run dmd.Devices.reIndex() or at first commit()
[19-May-2009 20:45:26] <rmatte> dmd.Devices.reIndex() first
[19-May-2009 20:45:33] <rmatte> then reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:45:36] <rmatte> then commit()
[19-May-2009 20:45:49] <rmatte> then restart zenoss and check for errors
[19-May-2009 20:49:39] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: btw. dmd.Devices.reIndex() or dmd.Devices.reindex() ??
[19-May-2009 20:49:55] <rmatte> dmd.Devices.reIndex() I believe
[19-May-2009 20:50:02] <rmatte> but it might be dmd.Devices.reindex()
[19-May-2009 20:50:09] <rmatte> haven't done it in a while
[19-May-2009 20:50:12] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 21:11:44] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: the errors when run zendmd is still there...
[19-May-2009 21:15:08] <rmatte> odd
[19-May-2009 21:15:23] <rmatte> that's something you'll have to post on the forums about or ask cluther about
[19-May-2009 21:15:28] <rmatte> I'm out of ideas
[19-May-2009 21:15:46] <rmatte> and I'm also out of here, been here for 13 hours, time to go... to a club
[19-May-2009 21:15:47] <rmatte> lol
[19-May-2009 21:15:53] <rmatte> ttyl
[19-May-2009 21:15:57] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 21:16:06] <sergeymasushko> have a nice party
[19-May-2009 21:16:13] <rmatte> oh, you know it
[19-May-2009 21:16:31] <sergeymasushko> btw. thanks a lot for all your help
[19-May-2009 21:16:36] <rmatte> no problem
[19-May-2009 21:16:42] <rmatte> sorry it didn't fix the issue
[19-May-2009 21:17:28] <sergeymasushko> I'll fight with it a bit more... I'll try to reinstall LDAP... probably it helps...
[19-May-2009 21:42:02] <caseyh20> how is it going everyone?
[19-May-2009 22:02:57] <sergeymasushko> caseyh20: are you using freebsd installation
[19-May-2009 22:04:49] <caseyh20> yes
[19-May-2009 22:05:04] <caseyh20> I have actually made some progress today
[19-May-2009 22:05:18] <caseyh20> its all the gnu crap that fails lol
[19-May-2009 22:05:59] <sergeymasushko>
[19-May-2009 22:06:23] <sergeymasushko> have you integrated LDAP with the zenoss?
[19-May-2009 22:07:08] <caseyh20> lol, no, but once I get it running I plan on integrating it with Windows AD
[19-May-2009 22:07:33] <caseyh20> I have big plans for Zenoss
once I get it installed lol[19-May-2009 22:07:51] <sergeymasushko>
good luck[19-May-2009 22:08:01] <caseyh20> thanks
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[20-May-2009 01:42:01] <beni-> hi guys... is there a list of minimum required hardware to install zenoss? i have a geode lx800 with 256MB memory and 2 GB free disk space... will that be enough to monitor 8-10 hosts?
[20-May-2009 01:46:27] <baffle> beni-: I don't think so.. It is quite memory hungry.
[20-May-2009 01:47:04] <beni-> baffle: hmm damn
[20-May-2009 02:38:42] <rhettlap> yeah. i had 2.4 running in a domU w/ 1vcpu and 512mb memory (on an older 2650 dell so nothing super fast) and i kept having issues w/ memory
[20-May-2009 02:39:36] <beni-> baffle: you were right... it consumes 100% of my memory, and my load average is at the moment 4.5, 3.6, 2.0 with only one host and only one logged in user
[20-May-2009 02:40:10] <rhettlap> oh wow
[20-May-2009 02:40:17] <rhettlap> that is not good for business
[20-May-2009 02:59:03] <beni-> nope... i wanted to set up a monitoring onto my new alix 2d3 debian server (<http://www.alix-board.de/produkte/alix2d3.html>) to monitor my webspace and private webserver (e.g. homeserver, backupserver). but zenoss is definitely not working on a LX800 :-(...
[20-May-2009 03:01:04] <beni-> brb in 15mins... would like to discuss if there are any ideas how to make zenoss working on low-power / low-ram devices
[20-May-2009 03:23:20] <beni-> re
[20-May-2009 03:23:36] <beni-> so, is there any way to get a light-weight zenoss for low-ram devices?
[20-May-2009 04:33:02] <baffle> beni-: I think you should probably go for another product; ZenOss consumes lots of memory to *work*, but not that much for new devices.. Check out something based on Nagios, or Zabbix or something combined with Munin..
[20-May-2009 04:33:46] <beni-> baffle: hm ok, yeah I already use nagios at work (actually groundwork, which is based on nagios).. i'll use that one, but zenoss looks nicer
[20-May-2009 04:35:07] <ToM-> Anyone know why collector plugins fail after 2.4 upgrade?
[20-May-2009 04:35:15] <ToM-> ImportError: No module named /data00/zenoss2.4/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins.zenoss.snmp.NewDeviceMap
[20-May-2009 04:35:24] <ToM-> I'm getting that to all plugins
[20-May-2009 04:43:35] <baffle> beni-: Yes, I agree, ZenOss is nice.. It's quite complicated, tho'.
[20-May-2009 04:44:34] <ToM-> baffle: and has some strange decisions like why doesn't the zensnmpperf work with parallel threads
[20-May-2009 04:44:55] <baffle> ToM-: It doesn't?
[20-May-2009 04:45:23] <ToM-> nope
[20-May-2009 04:45:27] <baffle> ToM-: I just upgraded the server, wich was very underpowered (3G ram), so multiple anything didn't really work.
[20-May-2009 04:45:59] <ToM-> yes but if you have like 5 machines back to back that have snmp down
[20-May-2009 04:46:08] <ToM-> the zenperfsnmp will just wait for them to time out
[20-May-2009 04:46:28] <ToM-> and then it dies because it has run longer than it should (5 minutes)
[20-May-2009 04:47:46] <ToM-> so having even 2 threads that are tasked with timout seperately would hugely speed up the process of snmp polling
[20-May-2009 04:48:14] <beni-> ok... moving on to nagios ;-) cu
[20-May-2009 04:52:27] <ToM-> anyhow..
[20-May-2009 04:52:44] <ToM-> my problem is just too persistant and can't figure why the heck it tries to load the modules with those names
[20-May-2009 04:53:59] <baffle> ToM-: Modelling is also very fun; I have lots of machines behind different firewalls, some of these doesn't send a tcp reset when a port is blocked.. Scanning takes forever, and if not the timeout is set high, it fails.
[20-May-2009 09:14:42] <antnoobzenlover> good afternoon everybody
[20-May-2009 09:17:16] <antnoobzenlover> i am using the zenoss 2.4 vitural appliance and its been running great now for a couple of months. follwing a recent powercut the server came back online however i can no longer get any performance stats or graphs
[20-May-2009 09:18:05] <antnoobzenlover> when i manually try to add a device i see the following error zensocket must be run as root or setuid
[20-May-2009 09:18:57] <antnoobzenlover> i have checked the file in /home/zenoss/bin and the zensocket fiule has the setuid flag
[20-May-2009 09:19:08] <chudler> it should also be owned by root.
[20-May-2009 09:19:19] <antnoobzenlover> its running in the virtual app
[20-May-2009 09:19:29] <chudler> uhm, IIRC. I don't even have a VM version of zenoss, however.
[20-May-2009 09:19:37] <antnoobzenlover> so everthing is un der /home/zenoss and all permissions are zenoss.zenoss
[20-May-2009 09:19:59] <chudler> there's at least one place that root must be owner, to satisfy some requirement.
[20-May-2009 09:20:26] <antnoobzenlover> i tried with the permissions of root.zenoss and the setuid flag set wit no luck
[20-May-2009 09:20:32] <antnoobzenlover> *with
[20-May-2009 09:20:49] <chudler> as a matter of fact, on all my installs bin/zensocket is owned by root. I once changed it to zenoss:zenoss and I got the exact same error you are getting :-)
[20-May-2009 09:20:55] <antnoobzenlover> sadly the ups on that machine gave up before a safe shutdown could happen
[20-May-2009 09:21:24] <antnoobzenlover> ill set it to root.root and see hang on a sec
[20-May-2009 09:23:53] <robos> on 4 of our linux servers zenoss shows all the file systems on 2 of the servers, the other 2 it does not. I don't notice an apparent configuration difference. Can anyone think of some reasons why it's different?
[20-May-2009 09:24:30] <antnoobzenlover> ok i changed the owner to root.root and tried zenoss --ping
[20-May-2009 09:24:40] <antnoobzenlover> now it says unable to find a user to become !
[20-May-2009 09:24:41] <antnoobzenlover> lol
[20-May-2009 09:25:08] <antnoobzenlover> think im gonna install another copy in another vm and look at defaults,
[20-May-2009 09:25:24] <simprix> Can I monitor processes with the zenoss client ?
[20-May-2009 09:25:26] <antnoobzenlover> i think the locations and permissions must be different on the vm images to a stock install
[20-May-2009 09:28:08] <antnoobzenlover> if i was to move from this premade image to an install of my own could i easily transfer the database into the new version ?
[20-May-2009 09:28:42] <chudler> no idea. I have transferred Data.fs between servers without problem. Can't speak for VM image, nor between version numbers.
[20-May-2009 09:30:49] <antnoobzenlover> 2.4 - 2.4 same version numbers
[20-May-2009 09:30:59] <antnoobzenlover> just wont be the appliance image
[20-May-2009 09:31:20] <antnoobzenlover> i only reaally put the appliance in to test the water so to speak
[20-May-2009 09:31:36] <antnoobzenlover> but i really like zenoss think its time to move it into production
[20-May-2009 09:38:42] <rocket> antnoobzenlover: just follow the backup and restore options I would believe
[20-May-2009 09:39:31] <antnoobzenlover> thanks for you help, ill admit i didnt really look that option up on the site, i was hoping i could fix the vmware issue easily
[20-May-2009 09:40:08] <caseyh20> hows it going perr0?
[20-May-2009 09:40:52] <perr0> caseyh20: good thank you and you?
[20-May-2009 09:43:02] <caseyh20> im doing pretty good, I didn't leave the office till around 9 last night, I found a cleaner fix for the autotext problem and I solved the freetype problem but know I have an issue with glib lol
[20-May-2009 09:43:58] <perr0> how did you get around the freetype2 problem and what cleaner fix did you find for gettext?
[20-May-2009 09:47:05] <caseyh20> well, I downloaded the gnu libiconv-1.13.tar.gz and put it in the rrddep dir with the rest of the source tars and then I added an entry for it at the top of the rrddep.sh script...
[20-May-2009 09:48:09] <caseyh20> autotext then compiles to problem
[20-May-2009 09:48:58] <caseyh20> when the rrddep.sh installs libiconv use /usr/local/zenoss as the prefix thus installing all the libs where autotext looks when installing
[20-May-2009 09:50:10] <perr0> Matt has an open ticket I don't know if you want to make a note
[20-May-2009 09:50:29] <perr0> I would love to add notes but I don
[20-May-2009 09:50:58] <perr0> t have the time right now. It doesn't seem they have been checking their builds before they are rolled out
[20-May-2009 09:51:17] <caseyh20> right, do you have the ticket number by any chance?
[20-May-2009 09:51:56] <perr0> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5006
[20-May-2009 09:52:00] <perr0> zenoss/zenoss
[20-May-2009 09:55:28] <perr0> caseyh20: what is happening with glib?
[20-May-2009 09:59:02] <simprix> can I monitor a process like mongrel with the zenoss client via ssh or do I have to use snmp ?
[20-May-2009 10:08:27] <rmatte> Does anyone know of a way to generate multiple data points in Zenoss using a script?
[20-May-2009 10:08:38] <rmatte> I have 4 data sources and need to create 64 data points under each
[20-May-2009 10:08:47] <rmatte> which will take forever if I don't find some way to automate this
[20-May-2009 10:13:04] <caseyh20> perr0: this is what I run into with glib http://pastebin.com/m2287012d
[20-May-2009 10:13:15] <robos> hi: 2 of our linux servers aren't monitoring the file systems. If you go into the device then os tab it doesn't show the mounted file systems. While 2 of the other linux boxes do. Any ideas why? This is a new setup.
[20-May-2009 10:13:39] <robos> they are running slighly different kernel versions.. think that has something to do with it?
[20-May-2009 10:13:58] <perr0> same snmp configurations?
[20-May-2009 10:14:05] <robos> yup, same snmp config
[20-May-2009 10:14:52] <robos> i did a diff on /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf between the servers and everything is the same
[20-May-2009 10:15:33] <rmatte> oh, I can just create them under 1 then copy and paste them using the management interface, nice
[20-May-2009 10:15:52] <perr0> I am no too sure about zenoss but your snmp.conf files do you have it basic like access to system or do you specify the partitions?
[20-May-2009 10:16:44] <perr0> rmatte: that would make a addition to a wiki
[20-May-2009 10:17:02] <robos> perr0: i'll pastie it.. sec
[20-May-2009 10:18:08] <cain22> hello all
[20-May-2009 10:18:42] <perr0> caseyh20: lol
[20-May-2009 10:18:54] <robos> perr0: http://pastie.org/484216
[20-May-2009 10:19:13] <robos> that's what i have across all 4 linux boxens
[20-May-2009 10:22:25] <cain22> can there be two transforms in one event class?
[20-May-2009 10:23:18] <perr0> robos: can you do a snmpwalk on the boxes you can't see the file system in zenoss to see results?
[20-May-2009 10:24:28] <robos> perr0: yep
[20-May-2009 10:24:33] <perr0> it werks?
[20-May-2009 10:27:03] <robos> yup, it works
[20-May-2009 10:27:26] <robos> looked at the differences between the stdout of the 2 snmp walks and the only diff is the timeticks and kernel version
[20-May-2009 10:27:45] <robos> the ones that work are running kernel 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 19:33:52 EDT 2008
[20-May-2009 10:28:00] <robos> the ones that do not are running 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 09:19:18 EDT 2009
[20-May-2009 10:28:53] <robos> maybe i should do a diff on lsmod?
[20-May-2009 10:33:25] <perr0> no sure
[20-May-2009 10:33:29] <perr0> not sure
[20-May-2009 10:45:37] <jb> anybody here monitoring xen?
[20-May-2009 10:53:37] <ctaloi> hey all, quick question - I have a device (weather goose) that monitors environmentals in our data centers - i'd like to monitor the node via icmp and make sure the web server is responding to requests on port 80, I can add the node as a "ping" class, but don't know how to monitor web on port 80 - any tips?
[20-May-2009 10:54:35] <ctaloi> oh, I think I got it - IP services
[20-May-2009 10:56:05] <rmatte> yes, IP services
[20-May-2009 10:56:33] <ctaloi> rmatte, thanks man
[20-May-2009 10:56:59] <ctaloi> what's the best way to create a "template" of IP services that I would apply to a class of devices?
[20-May-2009 11:00:09] <rmatte> click on Services in the left hand meny
[20-May-2009 11:00:11] <rmatte> menu*
[20-May-2009 11:00:42] <rmatte> once it loads go to IP Services/Priviledged
[20-May-2009 11:00:46] <rmatte> then do a search for http
[20-May-2009 11:00:48] <rmatte> click on it
[20-May-2009 11:00:50] <rmatte> and enable it
[20-May-2009 11:01:05] <rmatte> then it'll automatically be monitored on any devices that you model which have http running on them
[20-May-2009 11:01:20] <rmatte> IpServices/Privileged rather
[20-May-2009 11:02:30] <rmatte> you can also monitor https as well if need be
[20-May-2009 11:13:07] <jb> it would be really nice if zenabackup/zenrestore did zenpacks
[20-May-2009 11:41:52] <cain22> can there be two transforms in one event class?
[20-May-2009 11:42:00] <rmatte> yes
[20-May-2009 11:42:11] <rmatte> you just do it on a case by case basis
[20-May-2009 11:42:18] <rmatte> if this, do this, elif, do this, etc...
[20-May-2009 11:42:33] <cain22> so, just continue on from the last one?
[20-May-2009 11:42:40] <rmatte> yessir
[20-May-2009 11:42:51] <cain22> awesome...thanks
[20-May-2009 11:42:52] <rmatte> you can also apply transforms directly to mapped events
[20-May-2009 11:42:54] <rmatte> for traps
[20-May-2009 11:43:02] <rmatte> you don't have to do all of the traps under the class
[20-May-2009 11:43:17] <rmatte> erm, all of the transforms under the class, rather
[20-May-2009 12:26:50] bzed_ is now known as bzed
[20-May-2009 12:31:57] <rmatte> woohoo, finally finished creating all of my IP SLA graphs
[20-May-2009 12:32:03] <rmatte> (52 graphs)
[20-May-2009 12:54:18] <rmatte> monitors packet loss (both ways), jitter, and round trip time
[20-May-2009 12:54:34] <rmatte> all the monitoring is done from the core router, so we poll that for the stats
[20-May-2009 13:07:33] <jb> nice
[20-May-2009 13:12:27] <robos> hi: 2 of our linux servers aren't monitoring the file systems. In zenoss device -> os tab, it doesn't show the mounted file systems. While 2 of the other linux boxes do. Any ideas why? This is a new setup.
[20-May-2009 13:47:03] <cain22> umm...quick prob dumb question...but does zenoss gather perf about swithces?
[20-May-2009 14:02:18] <jb> anyone know why lots of my logs in $ZENHOME/log would be 0byted?
[20-May-2009 14:03:08] <slestak> hi guys. we are trying to monitor a Cisco ASA firewall with zenoss 2.4 community edition. We have installed the mibs from cisco, but we are getting this error on the ASA appliance.
[20-May-2009 14:03:12] <slestak> incoming SNMP request (575 bytes) from IP address 192.168.21.31 Port 37087 Interface "inside" exceeds data buffer size, discarding this SNMP request.
[20-May-2009 14:03:42] <slestak> I do not see a soln on google, or anything to adjust on either box to accomodate this
[20-May-2009 14:04:18] <chudler> are you using snmp v1? v2?
[20-May-2009 14:05:57] <slestak> v1
[20-May-2009 14:06:01] <chudler> anyway, you might find a solution at: http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/001365.html
[20-May-2009 14:06:51] <chudler> I was going to suggest you try v1, since it does *something* different with getbulk() vs getnext(), but meh.
[20-May-2009 14:07:31] <slestak> is this sth that should be patched in zenoss? Since the problem was id'd in '06?
[20-May-2009 14:07:52] <slestak> there is a lot of cicso equipment out there
[20-May-2009 14:09:12] <chudler> There's lots of people monitoring cisco, yes. I doubt all of them have this problem. In fact, I don't :-)
[20-May-2009 14:09:33] <chudler> It seems the post is referring to MAX_OIDS_PER_REQUEST = 40, which is around line 50 in 2.3.3
[20-May-2009 14:10:01] <chudler> er line 52 in 2.4.1
[20-May-2009 14:11:29] <slestak> would be cool if this value would be put on zProperties
[20-May-2009 14:11:38] <chudler> agreed
[20-May-2009 14:14:21] <rmatte> can someone explain to me why some of my RRD graphs are listing stuff like 800 m, 600 m, 400 m, etc... along one axis instead of just 1,2,3,4,5, etc...?
[20-May-2009 14:16:51] <jb> hmm
[20-May-2009 14:16:59] <jb> Cmd: /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nfs -H 172.26.101.174 - Code: 126 - Msg: Command invoked cannot execute, permissions problem or command is not an executable
[20-May-2009 14:17:02] <jb> this make no sense
[20-May-2009 14:17:10] <jb> the command works fine.. it has the right permissions, etc
[20-May-2009 14:17:19] <jb> any ideas on what is going on here?
[20-May-2009 14:17:21] <slestak> chudler: ok, it is at d.z.c http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3248
[20-May-2009 14:17:58] <slestak> i'll patch mine and watch this bug.
[20-May-2009 14:18:15] <jb> there is a zProp for max oids per request
[20-May-2009 14:18:20] <jb> its called "zMaxOIDPerRequest"
[20-May-2009 14:19:33] <rmatte> jb, what kind of script is it?
[20-May-2009 14:19:41] <jb> its a nagios command that i have used for months
[20-May-2009 14:19:43] <jb> with no problems
[20-May-2009 14:19:48] <jb> and all of a sudden, it just broke
[20-May-2009 14:19:52] <rmatte> so you didn't write the script?
[20-May-2009 14:19:58] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/opt/zenoss/libexec$ /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_nfs -H 172.26.101.174
[20-May-2009 14:19:58] <jb> NFS SERVER OK: Export list for 172.26.101.174: /a (everyone) /Admin (everyone) /Admin-DBA (everyone) /Admin-Out/Cisco/Mars (everyone) /Admin-Out (everyone)
[20-May-2009 14:20:02] <jb> no
[20-May-2009 14:20:18] <rmatte> can you become the zenoss user and run the script from the command line?
[20-May-2009 14:20:24] <jb> i just did, see above
[20-May-2009 14:20:33] <rmatte> ah
[20-May-2009 14:20:36] <rmatte> hmmm
[20-May-2009 14:21:58] <jb> im not sure whats gonig on
[20-May-2009 14:22:12] <rmatte> try restarting zenoss?
[20-May-2009 14:22:15] <jb> yes
[20-May-2009 14:23:10] <jb> and for some reason, all of my logs are 0byted
[20-May-2009 14:23:38] <chudler> have you tried with zentestcommand -v10? It might give us something more to go on.
[20-May-2009 14:23:49] <jb> sec
[20-May-2009 14:24:02] <rmatte> This post... http://www.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5528&view=previous&sid=1e843967ad55bf93d6642c0a1346b9db
[20-May-2009 14:24:26] <rmatte> suggests that moving the script from /opt/zenoss/libexec to /usr/local/zenoss/libexec might resolve the issue
[20-May-2009 14:25:02] <rmatte> From the post:
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> I think i found the problem that
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> the command path default is /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-May-2009 14:25:03] <rmatte> so i chage it to /usr/local/zenoss/libexec/check_http
[20-May-2009 14:25:04] <rmatte> now it work fine
[20-May-2009 14:25:11] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:/opt/zenoss/log$ zentestcommand -v10 -d fc-nfs01.corp.follett.com --datasource=check_nfs
[20-May-2009 14:25:11] <jb> NFS SERVER OK: Export list for 172.26.101.174: /a (everyone) /Admin (everyone) /Admin-DBA (everyone) /Admin-Out/Cisco/Mars (everyone) /Admin-Out (everyone)
[20-May-2009 14:25:27] <jb> rmatte: hmmm, that seems silly.
[20-May-2009 14:25:49] <rmatte> does seem silly, but I know that I don't have any of my scripts in the /opt directory and they all work fine, so no idea
[20-May-2009 14:25:55] <jb> so did mine, until today
[20-May-2009 14:26:00] <jb> and this is the only one that "broke"
[20-May-2009 14:26:09] <rmatte> did you modify anything today?
[20-May-2009 14:26:13] <jb> nothin
[20-May-2009 14:26:15] <jb> i did a zenbackup
[20-May-2009 14:26:17] <jb> and thats it
[20-May-2009 14:26:25] <rmatte> and you're positive that no one else touched the server?
[20-May-2009 14:26:29] <jb> positive
[20-May-2009 14:26:43] <rmatte> things don't just generally break on their own, something must have changed
[20-May-2009 14:26:51] <jb> i know..
[20-May-2009 14:26:57] <jb> im not sure if the zenbackup triggered anything or not
[20-May-2009 14:27:09] <jb> the fact that I can run it from the CLI and with zencommandtest
[20-May-2009 14:27:13] <jb> means that there should be no problem
[20-May-2009 14:27:37] <rmatte> have you tried doing "chown -R zenoss:zenoss /opt/zenoss && chmod +x /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http" just for the heck of it?
[20-May-2009 14:27:50] <rmatte> erm
[20-May-2009 14:27:57] <rmatte> have you tried doing "chown -R zenoss /opt/zenoss && chmod +x /opt/zenoss/libexec/check_http" just for the heck of it?
[20-May-2009 14:28:04] <rmatte> (there is no zenoss group hehe)
[20-May-2009 14:28:13] <jb> nope
[20-May-2009 14:28:19] <rmatte> worth a try
[20-May-2009 14:29:08] <chudler> if you do chown all of /opt/zenoss, make sure you at least change back bin/zensocket. I think it is usually setuid root
[20-May-2009 14:29:14] <jb> yeah
[20-May-2009 14:29:20] <jb> i don't think im going to do that
[20-May-2009 14:33:18] <rmatte> you could just do it on the libexec directory
[20-May-2009 14:34:40] <rmatte> well, that forum link I pasted is for the exact same issue with the exact same command
[20-May-2009 14:35:52] <rmatte> bingo
[20-May-2009 14:35:54] <rmatte> http://www.mail-archive.com/zenoss-users@zenoss.org/msg21264.html//www.mail-archive.com/zenoss-users@zenoss.org/msg21264.html
[20-May-2009 14:36:20] <rmatte> actually, hmmm
[20-May-2009 14:40:26] <jb> hm
[20-May-2009 14:43:51] <jb> i think everything is blowing up right now.
[20-May-2009 14:46:44] <rmatte> not good
[20-May-2009 14:47:28] <jb> actually
[20-May-2009 14:47:28] <jb> nm
[20-May-2009 14:47:38] <jb> do you have a directory named "localhost" in $ZENHOME/log?
[20-May-2009 14:48:10] <rmatte> no
[20-May-2009 14:48:20] <jb> ok
[20-May-2009 14:49:15] <rmatte> I usually just put scripts that I want to run in $ZENHOME/Products/Whatever/libexec/scripts.py/.sh/.whatever
[20-May-2009 14:49:39] <rmatte> then just do something like $$ZENHOME/Products/IPSLA/libexec/ipsla.sh <arguments>
[20-May-2009 14:49:52] <jb> yeah
[20-May-2009 14:55:35] <perr0> wb
[20-May-2009 14:59:35] <rmatte> but yeh, back to my original question, does anyone know why the Y axis on some of my RRD graphs shows in milliseconds instead of percent when I specified percentage as the units and the format for the graph points is set as %5.2lf ?
[20-May-2009 15:00:01] <rmatte> doesn't make any sense, and it's going to be confusing for clients to look at
[20-May-2009 15:19:42] <rmatte> oh, I see why, it's on any graph that hasn't hit a value of 1 or more
[20-May-2009 15:19:45] <rmatte> they are all decimals
[20-May-2009 15:19:56] <rmatte> makes sense
[20-May-2009 16:12:31] <jb> yay
[20-May-2009 16:12:35] <jb> finally readable disk alerts in 2.4.1
[20-May-2009 16:17:29] <rmatte> readable disk alerts?
[20-May-2009 16:17:35] <rmatte> example?
[20-May-2009 16:25:11] <jb> 'disk space threshold: 103.2% used (-0.06 GB free)'
[20-May-2009 16:25:20] <jb> instead of block size, etc
[20-May-2009 16:25:49] <chudler> oh, sweet. I upgraded, but hadn't noticed. I guess I can get rid of all those transforms
[20-May-2009 16:25:55] <jb> actually
[20-May-2009 16:26:01] <jb> looks like we still need one for the clears
[20-May-2009 16:26:04] <jb> Event: 'disk space threshold: 103.2% used (-0.06 GB free)'
[20-May-2009 16:26:04] <jb> Cleared by: 'Threshold of Free Space 90 Percent restored: current value: 524172.00'
[20-May-2009 16:26:31] <jb> i'll open a ticket about it.. maybe it was just forgotten
[20-May-2009 16:29:16] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5056
[20-May-2009 16:32:40] <rmatte> probably was
[20-May-2009 16:32:50] <chudler> might be more likely to get work with a patch. OTOH, I never look at their trac, so I don't know
[20-May-2009 18:52:15] <gutseb> Does anyone have any experience with trying to monitor a altix box with zenoss?
[20-May-2009 20:02:07] <rmatte> what do you need to monitor on them?
[20-May-2009 20:02:17] <rmatte> I assume they are just running Linux?
[20-May-2009 20:23:09] <gutseb> services
[20-May-2009 20:23:20] <gutseb> i think we figured some of it out.
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[21-May-2009 02:18:10] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[21-May-2009 02:18:15] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 02:18:40] <sergeymasushko> hi
[21-May-2009 02:18:52] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: morning
[21-May-2009 02:20:17] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Zenoss is blaming that can't connect ZenHub
[21-May-2009 02:20:31] <raddy> sergeymasushko : when manually modeling a device
[21-May-2009 02:20:43] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Zenhub is running perfectly.
[21-May-2009 02:21:06] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I am running ZenOSS 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 02:21:13] <sergeymasushko> try to restart zenhub daemon and zenmodeler daemon.
[21-May-2009 02:23:02] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Still no improvement.
[21-May-2009 02:23:44] <raddy> sergeymasushko : this problem occuring after i changed Zope port and Zeo port.
[21-May-2009 02:31:06] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[21-May-2009 02:40:32] <raddy> Anybody there?????????
[21-May-2009 02:49:55] <raddy> Anybody thereeeeeeeeeeee
[21-May-2009 03:49:26] <sergeymasushko> raddy
[21-May-2009 03:49:33] <sergeymasushko> still here?
[21-May-2009 03:50:07] <sergeymasushko> did you edit zenhub conf after changing ports?
[21-May-2009 03:52:29] <sergeymasushko> raddy: as zenoss user run the following command: zenhub genconf > zenhub.conf.example
[21-May-2009 03:52:29] <sergeymasushko> in the zenhub.conf.example you can find information that should be edited.
[21-May-2009 04:19:44] <mara> good morning
[21-May-2009 04:20:46] <sergeymasushko> morning
[21-May-2009 04:21:18] <mara> i have installing zenoss 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 04:21:35] <mara> and now i have to install the agent
[21-May-2009 04:21:52] <mara> i have choosing net-snmp
[21-May-2009 04:22:26] <mara> must i install it on the server or on the host that i want monitor
[21-May-2009 04:22:29] <mara> ???
[21-May-2009 04:23:19] <mara> any one have an idea??
[21-May-2009 04:23:26] <sergeymasushko> you can install it on both instances
[21-May-2009 04:23:44] <sergeymasushko> to monitor zenoss itself and remote host
[21-May-2009 04:24:38] <mara> o thanks
[21-May-2009 04:25:18] <mara> can you tell how can i configure the snmpd .conf for net- snmp
[21-May-2009 04:26:30] <mara> ???
[21-May-2009 06:22:37] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 06:25:29] <sergeymasushko> raddy: did you fix the problem?
[21-May-2009 06:25:44] <afink> Hello everyone, anyone know where there is a good tutorial on how to get CentOS performance monitors working?
[21-May-2009 06:26:27] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Nope, going to reinstall
[21-May-2009 06:42:50] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Hi
[21-May-2009 06:43:07] <sergeymasushko> raddy: hi
[21-May-2009 06:43:23] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I checked out the config, there is no zeo related port setting there.
[21-May-2009 06:43:54] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Only rpc-xml port related stuff is there.
[21-May-2009 06:46:47] <sergeymasushko> raddy: what about ?
[21-May-2009 06:46:48] <sergeymasushko> # port of zeo server, default: 8100
[21-May-2009 06:46:48] <sergeymasushko> #port 8100
[21-May-2009 06:48:36] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Yeahhhhhh, i missed it
[21-May-2009 06:52:12] <raddy> sergeymasushko : It would surely work, once again thanks in advance
[21-May-2009 06:54:21] <raddy> sergeymasushko : It worked great .
[21-May-2009 06:54:35] <sergeymasushko>
[21-May-2009 06:55:11] <sergeymasushko> happy to hear it
[21-May-2009 06:56:12] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I was very much frustrated in seeing zenoss to not work. your help indeed was a great rescue.
[21-May-2009 06:56:27] <raddy> I had lot of other things to worry too.
[21-May-2009 06:59:14] <raddy> sergeymasushko : I am using ssh to monitor one of my server.
[21-May-2009 06:59:39] <raddy> sergeymasushko : the script zenoss runs, has a path like /home/zenoss.
[21-May-2009 06:59:49] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Can i change it?
[21-May-2009 07:00:01] <sergeymasushko> sure
[21-May-2009 07:00:10] <raddy> sergeymasushko : How?
[21-May-2009 07:00:18] <sergeymasushko> on the zProperties tab of the device
[21-May-2009 07:00:25] <raddy> Ohh okk
[21-May-2009 07:03:27] <sergeymasushko> raddy sorry you should define path in the template... not on the device....
[21-May-2009 07:03:54] <raddy> sergeymasushko : So in /CMD, right?
[21-May-2009 07:05:31] <sergeymasushko> open datasource in the template and in the 'Command Template' you should /palce/your/path/to/thescript.sh
[21-May-2009 07:05:49] <raddy> sergeymasushko : Ohh
[21-May-2009 07:06:52] <raddy> ${zCommandPath} should be replaced?
[21-May-2009 07:11:14] <raddy> sergeymasushko : here/mount should be changed?
[21-May-2009 07:24:24] afink_ is now known as afink
[21-May-2009 07:26:26] <raddy> sergeymasushko : are you there?
[21-May-2009 07:26:29] <afink> is there a trick to getting the rrd graphs on centos to work with zenoss? I am getting debug errors that I am missing laLoadInt15, laLoadInt5, memAvailReal...How do I configure these? I have configured snmp on centos and installed rrdtool what else do I need to do?
[21-May-2009 07:27:55] <afink> maybe I just needed net-snmp-utils?
[21-May-2009 07:31:08] <raddy> It seems zenoss 2.4x don't has the zenplugin.py
[21-May-2009 07:33:22] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 07:53:50] <raddy> Anybody there?
[21-May-2009 07:57:20] <jb> anybody here running 2.4.1?
[21-May-2009 07:57:46] <raddy> jb : me
[21-May-2009 07:59:04] <jb> raddy: have you tried to disable monitoring of a windows service?
[21-May-2009 07:59:42] <raddy> jb : yeah
[21-May-2009 07:59:51] <jb> does it work?
[21-May-2009 08:00:01] <raddy> Yeh
[21-May-2009 08:00:09] <jb> k
[21-May-2009 08:11:28] <raddy> jp : Can you help me?
[21-May-2009 08:23:41] <jb> with?
[21-May-2009 08:23:48] <jb> let me read the scroll..
[21-May-2009 08:23:49] <jb> sec
[21-May-2009 08:24:21] <jb> whats the problem?
[21-May-2009 08:24:32] <jb> you can change the path in the datasource for the command
[21-May-2009 08:24:36] <raddy> jp : free swap usage is shown in bytes
[21-May-2009 08:24:52] <raddy> jp : I want it to be shown in MB.
[21-May-2009 08:25:19] <jb> you should just be able to alter teh RPN
[21-May-2009 08:25:48] <raddy> jp : can you elaborate?
[21-May-2009 08:37:23] <mara> hi every bod
[21-May-2009 08:38:23] <mara> can you tell me what version of net-snmp agent i must install for zenoss 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 08:38:55] <mara> PS:i am usinf ubutu
[21-May-2009 08:38:57] <mara> ??
[21-May-2009 08:42:14] <mara> any one have an answer
[21-May-2009 08:43:24] <raddy> Hi mara
[21-May-2009 08:43:38] <raddy> mara : No specific version.
[21-May-2009 08:45:04] <raddy> mara : it can work with snmp v1, 2, 3
[21-May-2009 08:50:48] <mara> ??????????
[21-May-2009 08:51:15] <raddy> mara : didn't you see my message?
[21-May-2009 09:21:41] <rmatte> does anyone know of a way to easily set it so that if a particular event comes in it auto-clears all other events that came in for a device?
[21-May-2009 09:22:04] <rmatte> for instance, when Zenoss detects a device reboot, I want it to clear all of the other events that came in for the device
[21-May-2009 09:22:14] <rmatte> so that we don't get like 70 notifications for a single device reboot
[21-May-2009 09:22:47] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: morning... event mapping ?
[21-May-2009 09:23:42] <rmatte> I have all of the 70 or so events mapped and I have transforms applied to them, but I need to set a condition where if an event comes in with a summary of "Device Reboot", then it clears all other events that came in for that device, except that one of course
[21-May-2009 09:24:06] <rmatte> we have Zenoss integrated with a ticketing system, and it sucks for our analysts when they get 70 tickets flood in for a server reboot
[21-May-2009 09:24:38] <sergeymasushko> rmatte: we have the same thing...
[21-May-2009 09:24:39] <jb> yes, that would be nice
[21-May-2009 09:27:40] <rmatte> good morning Matt
[21-May-2009 09:27:45] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[21-May-2009 09:30:37] <rmatte> Perhaps you can answer my question, I'm trying to figure out what the quickest way is to have a particular event (Device Reboot), automatically clear all other events for that particular device when it comes in.
[21-May-2009 09:31:21] <rmatte> There's a BlackBerry server that reboots every week, when it does it floods us with like 70 events, which, on their own are valid events, but we don't want to see alerts for them when the device reboots
[21-May-2009 09:32:08] <mrayzenoss> well, you could set clear events for the other events, but that would be tedious
[21-May-2009 09:32:20] <mrayzenoss> I think an event transform could probably be used
[21-May-2009 09:32:27] <mrayzenoss> let me dig around for something similar
[21-May-2009 09:33:09] <rmatte> thanks, appreciated
[21-May-2009 09:33:21] <rmatte> yeh, I was thinking about a transform, just not quite sure how to script it
[21-May-2009 09:36:57] <jb> any devs comin in today?
[21-May-2009 09:37:01] <mrayzenoss> is the reboot scheduled?
[21-May-2009 09:37:20] <mrayzenoss> jb: nah, they're wrapping up planning. I mean, somebody might be in here but nothing's scheduled
[21-May-2009 09:37:25] <rmatte> ummm, good question, let me check the timestamps...
[21-May-2009 09:37:37] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: if the reboot is scheduled, a maintenance window would suppress all events
[21-May-2009 09:38:00] <rmatte> there are actually 3 different blackberry servers that we are having this particular problem with, each with their own reboot schedule though
[21-May-2009 09:38:18] <rmatte> we can't suppress all events, we still need to actually see that the device rebooted
[21-May-2009 09:38:27] <jb> ah ok..
[21-May-2009 09:38:34] <jb> i can't seem to disable monitoring of any windows service in 2.4.1
[21-May-2009 09:38:41] <jb> Type: BadRequest
[21-May-2009 09:38:41] <jb> Value: The property port does not exist
[21-May-2009 09:38:42] <jb> Traceback (innermost last):
[21-May-2009 09:38:47] <mrayzenoss> give each server a group, set up a maintenance window just for that server on it's reboot schedule
[21-May-2009 09:39:09] <mrayzenoss> jb: seriously? I thought that was fixed
[21-May-2009 09:39:18] <jb> not for me
[21-May-2009 09:39:20] <rmatte> any way to still have the Device Reboot ticket stay in active events with the maintenance windows?
[21-May-2009 09:39:25] <jb> there may be a patch
[21-May-2009 09:39:36] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: hmmm.... there's a new feature in 2.4
[21-May-2009 09:39:47] <mrayzenoss> that adds events based on maintenance windows starting and stopping
[21-May-2009 09:40:01] <rmatte> hmmm
[21-May-2009 09:41:15] <rmatte> it looks like these particular reboots are done by hand by the client, so the maintenance window would be like a 2 hour period, can't afford to suppress all events for that long
[21-May-2009 09:41:21] <rmatte> any other options?
[21-May-2009 09:41:55] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: there's a maintenance level that suppresses alerts, but not events
[21-May-2009 09:42:20] <mrayzenoss> or actually, I guess that's an alert schedule
[21-May-2009 09:43:37] <rmatte> a transform is looking like probably the only option, but I can't think of how I'd do it
[21-May-2009 09:44:45] <rmatte> I'd have to do some function where it's like, if evt.summary == Device Reboot then for each event for device where evt.summary != Device Reboot set evt.severity = 0
[21-May-2009 09:45:40] <mrayzenoss> yeah, there's probably a call similar to ZenEventManager.getEventList("device")
[21-May-2009 09:45:50] <mrayzenoss> that you can get to from the event
[21-May-2009 09:46:11] <mrayzenoss> I just can't find a good example
[21-May-2009 09:46:53] <rmatte> mara: you really need to read the Zenoss Admin Guide
[21-May-2009 09:47:14] <rmatte> the questions that you are asking are covered in there
[21-May-2009 09:47:33] <rmatte> hmmm
[21-May-2009 09:47:50] <rmatte> the other issue is the amount of time that the events are spread over before/after the reboot
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> First Event: 2009/05/20 22:22:11.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> Reboot: Device Reboot
[21-May-2009 09:48:29] <rmatte> Last Event: 2009/05/20 22:27:03.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:35] <rmatte> oops
[21-May-2009 09:48:47] <rmatte> Reboot: 2009/05/20 22:25:58.000
[21-May-2009 09:48:48] <rmatte> rather
[21-May-2009 09:49:20] <jb> what event are you transforming ot get "Device Reboot" ?
[21-May-2009 09:49:34] <rmatte> snmp trap snmp_coldStart
[21-May-2009 09:49:57] <jb> i need to go thru and transform all of those
[21-May-2009 09:50:07] <jb> so you pretty much have them all transformed?
[21-May-2009 09:50:20] <chudler> rmatte: Would an event command (zendmd script) be able to handle this?
[21-May-2009 09:50:21] <rmatte> I just did evt.summary = 'Device Reboot' evt.component='REBOOT'
[21-May-2009 09:50:23] <rmatte> pretty simple
[21-May-2009 09:50:42] <rmatte> chudler: no idea
[21-May-2009 09:50:56] <rmatte> chudler: it's possible
[21-May-2009 09:51:04] <mrayzenoss> chudler: that's a sneaky good idea
[21-May-2009 09:52:56] <rmatte> I'm just wondering how I'd deal with the 5 minute time spread for the events
[21-May-2009 09:53:17] <mrayzenoss> Jane Curry's auto-discovery paper has a transform for snmp_coldStarts
[21-May-2009 09:53:22] <rmatte> I need tickets to be generated after a 60 second delay, which is how I have the ticket create command setup
[21-May-2009 09:54:01] <mrayzenoss> http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/auto_disco_paper.pdf
[21-May-2009 09:54:06] <rmatte> but the events are spread over 5 minutes, most come in 3 minutes before the actual reboot event
[21-May-2009 09:56:45] <jb> mrayzenoss: i created a ticket @ http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/505
[21-May-2009 09:56:55] <jb> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5059
[21-May-2009 09:56:56] <jb> rather
[21-May-2009 09:58:04] <rmatte> yeh, that coldstart transform is kind of for a specific scenario though
[21-May-2009 09:58:29] <rmatte> where you want devices moved between classes when rebooted
[21-May-2009 09:58:52] <rmatte> interesting trick though
[21-May-2009 09:59:01] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I was just looking at transforms and you mentioned coldstart, reminded me
[21-May-2009 09:59:18] <rmatte> hehe
[21-May-2009 09:59:58] <mrayzenoss> jb: updated your ticket, I think it's a regression
[21-May-2009 10:10:58] <rmatte> hmmm, less than a minute in to the reboot cycle I always see Blackberry SRP Connection Dropped, maybe I can use that as a trigger for the transform
[21-May-2009 10:28:33] <rmatte> this is such a small fix, it's almost trivial
[21-May-2009 10:35:04] <mara> I have found my file snmpd.conf under /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/. Is that normal?
[21-May-2009 10:42:00] <mrayzenoss> mara: that's probably an example file
[21-May-2009 10:46:27] <mara> i can't found the directory snmp under etc
[21-May-2009 10:46:42] <mara> even i have installed snmp
[21-May-2009 10:46:54] <mara> i can't found the cause
[21-May-2009 10:46:57] <mara> ??
[21-May-2009 10:47:00] <mara>
[21-May-2009 10:59:29] <perr0> caseyh20: you haven't had time to make a note in the freebsd ticket?
[21-May-2009 11:00:35] <caseyh20> well I looked at the tickets and they really are not for what we are having problems with
[21-May-2009 11:01:12] <perr0> ok, I thought that the intentions were to put everything into one ticket since it had to do with the installation/installer
[21-May-2009 11:01:17] <perr0> but either way
[21-May-2009 11:01:52] <caseyh20> I was not aware
[21-May-2009 11:02:06] <caseyh20> if that is what they want us to do I can
[21-May-2009 11:02:07] <perr0> I think that was what Matt said?
[21-May-2009 11:02:13] <perr0> mrayzenoss: ?
[21-May-2009 11:03:33] <caseyh20> I am setting up a system with a fresh install of FreeBSD 7.2 to see if I can replicate the issue
[21-May-2009 11:03:40] <perr0> ya
[21-May-2009 11:03:44] <mrayzenoss> feel free to open a FreeBSD source ticket
[21-May-2009 11:04:37] <mrayzenoss> our build manager has time scheduled to upgrade our source build
[21-May-2009 11:04:47] <mrayzenoss> so if there's a reference ticket he'll hit it
[21-May-2009 11:05:05] <perr0> yeah, do you when this will be?
[21-May-2009 11:05:25] <perr0> it doesn't matter
[21-May-2009 11:05:27] <mrayzenoss> well, he's working on our buildbot the next few weeks
[21-May-2009 11:05:46] <mrayzenoss> but if there's a ticket that catches the fixes, we can get people to submit more fixes and I can point them to it as reference
[21-May-2009 11:05:50] <mrayzenoss> 2.5 will be fixed
[21-May-2009 11:06:18] <mrayzenoss> and we'll have docs for making 2.4 work
[21-May-2009 11:08:19] <perr0> if I can get it to work on freebsd I will get rid of all these enterprise linux boxes we have at work
[21-May-2009 11:08:56] <caseyh20> yeah, I don't want to have to launch a linux box just to run zenoss lol
[21-May-2009 11:09:34] <perr0> caseyh20: save that for the ##freebsd channel lol
[21-May-2009 11:09:45] <sergeymasushko> maybe I can help too with the freebsd
[21-May-2009 11:10:00] <perr0> sergeymasushko: did you ever speak to the guy who installed it?
[21-May-2009 11:11:36] <sergeymasushko> perr0: he is too busy right now... and I didn't get an answer yet... I'm going to install zenoss at home on a freebsd... will see if get some erorrs....
[21-May-2009 11:12:13] <mrayzenoss> do all of you FreeBSD users have a trac account?
[21-May-2009 11:12:26] <perr0> just the generic one?
[21-May-2009 11:12:33] <mrayzenoss> I thought I gave you one?
[21-May-2009 11:12:38] <perr0> zenoss/zenoss
[21-May-2009 11:12:42] <mrayzenoss> anyone who wants a trac account, email me
[21-May-2009 11:12:46] <mrayzenoss> mray@zenoss.com
[21-May-2009 11:13:22] <mrayzenoss> we can open a definitive FreeBSD build issues ticket, so when Glenn starts addressing the source build he'll have a reference
[21-May-2009 11:13:31] <mrayzenoss> also, we can start making changes to trunk
[21-May-2009 11:13:49] <perr0> that would be great
[21-May-2009 11:13:51] <mrayzenoss> does FreeBSD 7.2 still have Python 2.4?
[21-May-2009 11:14:15] <perr0> I am sure
[21-May-2009 11:14:20] <perr0> we can installed
[21-May-2009 11:14:27] <perr0> it
[21-May-2009 11:15:05] <mrayzenoss> hmm... there is a chance that Zenoss 2.5 will be able to start getting into community distros
[21-May-2009 11:15:24] <mrayzenoss> we don't plan on upgrading Python yet, but possibly Zope
[21-May-2009 11:15:38] <mrayzenoss> which was the blocker for most distros
[21-May-2009 11:16:06] <chudler> that's cool. A newer python would be sweet ;-)
[21-May-2009 11:16:33] <mrayzenoss> chudler: well, Zope first, then Python
[21-May-2009 11:16:47] <mrayzenoss> Zope 2.12 will add Python 2.6, it's not out yet
[21-May-2009 11:23:48] <perr0> caseyh20: sergeymasushko Is going to give it a try at home, I just hate being so busy lately do you mind updating your blog on the steps you have done so far?
[21-May-2009 11:24:09] <caseyh20> will do
[21-May-2009 11:24:43] <caseyh20> I am trying a different approach right now, i will update everything before lunch
[21-May-2009 11:24:49] <perr0> thank you maign!
[21-May-2009 11:24:56] <caseyh20> lol, no problem
[21-May-2009 11:25:18] <perr0> sergeymasushko: when ever caseyh20 has time you can see his progress here http://www.caseyhillman.com/?p=88&cpage=1#comment-951
[21-May-2009 11:25:56] <sergeymasushko> ok. thanks
[21-May-2009 11:56:23] <skarphace> During build on a FreeBSD 7.1 system I get this: ./libxml/encoding.h:137: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'iconv_t'
[21-May-2009 11:56:27] <skarphace> Ideas appreciated.
[21-May-2009 11:56:45] <perr0> for gettext?
[21-May-2009 11:59:21] <perr0> I reverted back to gettext 016 and edited the rrddeps.sh scripts and caseyh20: downloaded the gnu libiconv-1.13.tar.gz and put it in the rrddep dir with the rest of the source tars and then I added an entry for it at the top of the rrddep.sh script...
[21-May-2009 12:00:03] <perr0> @ skarphace ^^
[21-May-2009 12:02:23] <caseyh20> skarphace: please see this http://pastebin.com/me5ee1a3
[21-May-2009 12:11:21] <skarphace> perr0: yes, gettext
[21-May-2009 12:12:39] <skarphace> perr0: Should I expect any upgrade of fbsd to break this install?
[21-May-2009 12:15:46] <perr0> hmm... as long you follow the install instructions you should be fine
[21-May-2009 12:16:44] <perr0> the thing is none of us online now have been able to get it installed but one person and he actually was not the one who got it working so we are at a stand still
[21-May-2009 12:17:24] <skarphace> hm, fun.
[21-May-2009 12:18:16] <skarphace> maybe I should just drop it on my centos box.
[21-May-2009 12:18:25] <perr0> that is what I did
[21-May-2009 12:18:50] <perr0> as soon as the fix is in place enterprise Linux is gone
[21-May-2009 12:19:56] <skarphace> heh
[21-May-2009 12:21:40] <skarphace> So far so good atleast.
[21-May-2009 12:22:44] <caseyh20> how far has it gotten?
[21-May-2009 12:24:44] <skarphace> Though it got further, but no. Same error.
[21-May-2009 12:25:01] <perr0> did you try caseyh20's fix?
[21-May-2009 12:25:22] <skarphace> yes
[21-May-2009 12:25:33] <perr0> how did you come up with this if you don't mind me asking casey?
[21-May-2009 12:25:50] <Serideru> anone have any idea what zenping host has no manage ip means?
[21-May-2009 12:26:03] <skarphace> error: iconv.h: No such file or directory
[21-May-2009 12:26:21] <caseyh20> which package is it trying to build though? it should be glib now
[21-May-2009 12:26:37] <perr0> could it be its just pointing to the wrong directory?
[21-May-2009 12:26:47] <caseyh20> perr0: that is exactly what is happening
[21-May-2009 12:27:10] <perr0> link time?
[21-May-2009 12:27:49] <caseyh20> to get glib to compile I just copied /usr/local/zenoss/include/iconv.h to /usr/local/include and /usr/include not the best way to do it but Iam just testing right now
[21-May-2009 12:28:06] <skarphace> last gcc command: gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DEXEEXT=\"\" -DEXEEXT=\"\" -DEXEEXT=\"\" -I. -I.. -I../intl -I../intl -I.. -I.. -DDEPENDS_ON_LIBICONV=1 -DDEPENDS_ON_LIBINTL=1 -DLIBXML_STATIC -I../intl -I./libcroco -D_THREAD_SAFE -O3 -fPIC -I/usr/local/zenoss/include -c term-styled-ostream.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/term-styled-ostream.o
[21-May-2009 12:28:19] <perr0> do a link
[21-May-2009 12:28:46] <skarphace> I have an iconv.h in /usr/local/include and /usr/include/sys/
[21-May-2009 12:28:55] <caseyh20> right
[21-May-2009 12:28:57] <skarphace> I guess it wants it in /usr/local/zenoss/include?
[21-May-2009 12:29:31] <caseyh20> you should have one in /usr/local/zenoss/include if you made the changes to the rrddeps.sh file
[21-May-2009 12:29:46] <caseyh20> and put the source for libiconv in rrddeps directory
[21-May-2009 12:30:19] <skarphace> I only have a python directory there.
[21-May-2009 12:30:34] <skarphace> does the position of the dep in rrddeps.sh matter?
[21-May-2009 12:30:44] <skarphace> I added it pretty far down the list.
[21-May-2009 12:30:50] <caseyh20> it needs to be the first
[21-May-2009 12:31:19] <skarphace> aight, let's give this a shot again. Thanks.
[21-May-2009 12:36:15] <caseyh20> I Got It!
[21-May-2009 12:39:01] <skarphace> Still building. Good sign.
[21-May-2009 12:45:16] <perr0> right on!
[21-May-2009 13:03:26] <skarphace> aw crap, another error.
[21-May-2009 13:04:33] <skarphace> Not much useful information: Error expanding embedded variable.
[21-May-2009 13:04:56] <skarphace> "./builds/toplevel.mk", line 50: Need an operator
[21-May-2009 13:05:50] <skarphace> last entry in zenbuild.log is this: running install_lib
[21-May-2009 13:06:00] <skarphace> errors on the console only.
[21-May-2009 13:08:39] <skarphace> gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `unix'.
[21-May-2009 13:10:02] <perr0> ya I think that is for freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:10:40] <skarphace> yeah, looks like it.
[21-May-2009 13:10:58] <perr0> I am wondering if we can somehow install freetype2 from the ports will solve this issue
[21-May-2009 13:11:12] <perr0> do you already have it installed?
[21-May-2009 13:11:37] <perr0> cause I know all packages outside of ports has to be "ported" over to freebsd
[21-May-2009 13:12:03] <perr0> I am just rambling sorry
[21-May-2009 13:13:20] <rmatte> oops
[21-May-2009 13:13:22] <rmatte> in python how do you do a 'not equal to' for a string?
[21-May-2009 13:13:50] <rmatte> I assume it's not as easy as string != 'bleh'?
[21-May-2009 13:15:56] <skarphace> != or <> works, I think.
[21-May-2009 13:17:18] <mrayzenoss> yeah
[21-May-2009 13:17:19] <skarphace> perr0: it does look like I have freetype2 installed.
[21-May-2009 13:17:22] <rmatte> cool
[21-May-2009 13:17:37] <skarphace> /usr/local/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:18:45] <skarphace> Is it trying to install it's own instance?
[21-May-2009 13:18:55] <perr0> yes
[21-May-2009 13:18:58] <Serideru> anyone have an idea what would cause zenoss to alert on an snmp failure on a device that snmpignore is set to true? The device has been manually remodeled since the zproperty change.
[21-May-2009 13:19:10] <perr0> its needed by rrdtools
[21-May-2009 13:19:41] <skarphace> Can I skip freetype2 installation and point it to the already installed version?
[21-May-2009 13:19:57] <mrayzenoss> Serideru: hmmm... I wonder if it tried to model it again even though snmpignore was set to true?
[21-May-2009 13:20:00] <perr0> this is were I was told to stop spending too much time with it
[21-May-2009 13:20:23] <skarphace> heh
[21-May-2009 13:20:51] <skarphace> I wonder if I can yank it out of rrddeps.sh and then symlink it to the current install.
[21-May-2009 13:21:17] <skarphace> Can you give me it's install directory for freetype?
[21-May-2009 13:25:39] <skarphace> /usr/local/zenoss/include/freetype2?
[21-May-2009 13:27:21] <perr0> who?
[21-May-2009 13:27:34] <perr0> let me check
[21-May-2009 13:33:01] <rmatte> I know that I can do something like if re.search("User removed from the BES", msgtext):...
[21-May-2009 13:33:26] <rmatte> but how would I go about saying if a string does not contain a certain piece of text
[21-May-2009 13:33:57] <rmatte> I just want to ommit any event where the event summary contains 'is down'
[21-May-2009 13:33:58] <mrayzenoss> if/elif ?
[21-May-2009 13:34:32] <mrayzenoss> can you do a !re.search?
[21-May-2009 13:34:37] <perr0> zenoss/common/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:34:46] <rmatte> needs to be something like: if evt.summary != 'Device Reboot' and evt.summary != "*is down"
[21-May-2009 13:35:12] <perr0> skarphace: you are correct /usr/local/zenoss/include/freetype2
[21-May-2009 13:36:40] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: you can put a ! in your regex
[21-May-2009 13:37:01] <rmatte> ah
[21-May-2009 13:37:38] <rmatte> so...
[21-May-2009 13:37:40] <rmatte> if evt.summary != 'Device Reboot' and !re.search("is down", evt.summary)
[21-May-2009 13:37:42] <rmatte> should work?
[21-May-2009 13:37:49] <rmatte> (forgot colon at end, but other than that)
[21-May-2009 13:39:11] <mrayzenoss> I typically open up python and http://docs.python.org/howto/regex.html#regex-howto and test it
[21-May-2009 13:40:44] <perr0> skarphace: I have to run an errand but will live iirc on. if you get further let us know, please?
[21-May-2009 13:40:45] <rmatte> nah, it doesn't like the ! before the re
[21-May-2009 13:40:55] <perr0> leave*
[21-May-2009 13:41:03] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: then try it within your regex
[21-May-2009 13:41:13] <rmatte> what do you mean?
[21-May-2009 13:41:28] <rmatte> re.search(!"is down", evt.summary)?
[21-May-2009 13:41:35] <pgega> hello
[21-May-2009 13:43:14] <rmatte> that doesn't work
[21-May-2009 13:44:14] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: yeah, within your regex instead of on the outside
[21-May-2009 13:44:23] <mrayzenoss> not sure of the syntax
[21-May-2009 13:45:34] <mrayzenoss> re.match('!is down', evt.summary)
[21-May-2009 13:45:57] <mrayzenoss> err, search
[21-May-2009 13:47:11] <rmatte> doesn't seem to work
[21-May-2009 13:48:11] <caseyh20> skarphace: you still having issues with freetype?
[21-May-2009 13:48:48] <caseyh20> what version of python does zenoss currently use?
[21-May-2009 13:48:48] <rmatte> got it
[21-May-2009 13:49:04] <rmatte> or not
[21-May-2009 13:50:23] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: 2.4.4
[21-May-2009 13:53:14] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[21-May-2009 14:08:41] <rmatte> hmmm, still haven't figured this out
[21-May-2009 14:13:18] <pgega> is there any easy way to get graphs from cacti and import them to zenoss ?
[21-May-2009 14:13:52] <mrayzenoss> pgega: probably whatever you're using to get your graphs in Cactii can be reused by Zenoss
[21-May-2009 14:14:15] <mrayzenoss> pgega: you can reuse your Cactii plugins
[21-May-2009 14:14:46] <mrayzenoss> pgega: migrating your existing data would take some work
[21-May-2009 14:16:15] <pgega> mrayzenoss, but it is not impossible ?
[21-May-2009 14:16:31] <pgega> or unreasonable :
[21-May-2009 14:16:34] <pgega> rather
[21-May-2009 14:16:40] <rmatte> re.search handles regex expressions so strangely, I've tried all the standard stuff, nothing works
[21-May-2009 14:17:38] <mrayzenoss> pgega: If you're familiar with RRDTool and the various options, I imagine it can be done
[21-May-2009 14:18:31] <mrayzenoss> pgega: try this. Add the datasource with the Cactii plugin, using the RRDCreate settings you used in Cactii
[21-May-2009 14:18:40] <mrayzenoss> pgega: then drop in a copy of your existing data
[21-May-2009 14:18:55] <mrayzenoss> I think that would work, since the file would be the same format
[21-May-2009 14:20:22] <mrayzenoss> the perf data is kept in $ZENHOME/perf/
[21-May-2009 14:27:45] <pgega> cacti's templates can be exported to xml
[21-May-2009 14:28:10] <skarphace> caseyh20: sorry, lunch.
[21-May-2009 14:28:25] <pgega> i am wondering if those can be imported/piped into zenoss after some processing
[21-May-2009 14:28:54] <mrayzenoss> I'm sure they can
[21-May-2009 14:29:08] <mrayzenoss> both tools use RRDTool
[21-May-2009 14:29:20] <pgega> yes, ii know
[21-May-2009 14:29:29] <caseyh20> skarphace: I have a fix for freetype
[21-May-2009 14:29:43] <skarphace> caseyh20: I got the following for lack of freetype. I forgot to put the symlink in before the build. configure: error: Cairo requires at least one native font backend. Please install FreeType and fontconfig and try again.
[21-May-2009 14:29:47] <pgega> xml seems to be perfect to reform and insert to some db
[21-May-2009 14:29:53] <skarphace> caseyh20: oh?
[21-May-2009 14:31:54] <caseyh20> change part of your rrddeps.sh to look like this
[21-May-2009 14:31:57] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/ma669562
[21-May-2009 14:35:23] <skarphace> Does that need to be before the dep=freetype definition or after?
[21-May-2009 14:36:40] <caseyh20> well, it is a modified version of some of the code above the section where the dep= section is
[21-May-2009 14:37:58] <pgega> is it possible to add process monitor to the class rather than every single server ?
[21-May-2009 14:42:53] <caseyh20> skarphace: you find out where to put it?
[21-May-2009 14:46:33] <caseyh20> any idea what this is http://pastebin.com/m39d226e1
[21-May-2009 14:59:45] <pgega> i mean to add process monitor globally, because adding new process monitor to every server does not seem to be efficient
[21-May-2009 15:12:13] <rmatte> ok, I need some other eyes looking at this
[21-May-2009 15:12:14] <rmatte> http://pastebin.com/m42b2ba98
[21-May-2009 15:12:30] <rmatte> Anyone who is good at python, take a look and let me know if you see any issues with that
[21-May-2009 15:12:37] <rmatte> it doesn't want to load cleanly in to Zenoss
[21-May-2009 15:12:40] <rmatte> (transform)
[21-May-2009 15:13:11] <caseyh20> is that all of the code?
[21-May-2009 15:13:15] <rmatte> yes
[21-May-2009 15:14:36] <caseyh20> do you get a traceback?
[21-May-2009 15:15:05] <rmatte> no, I paste it in, click save, and it turns the text red, meaning something is wrong with it
[21-May-2009 15:16:54] <caseyh20> I don't see anything off, im not very good at python either though:P
[21-May-2009 15:21:09] <perr0> no word from skarphace?
[21-May-2009 15:21:35] <rocket> mrayzenoss_: where is the linux zenpack?
[21-May-2009 15:22:20] <mrayzenoss_> http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/linux-monitor
[21-May-2009 15:22:25] mrayzenoss_ is now known as mrayzenoss
[21-May-2009 15:22:39] <rocket> thanks
[21-May-2009 15:35:45] <caseyh20> Finally, I have 2.4.1 running on FreeBSD 7.2
[21-May-2009 15:36:15] <mrayzenoss> woohoo
[21-May-2009 15:36:24] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 15:40:39] <rmatte> hmm, Matt, this doesn't seem to work at all: for event in device.getEventManager().getEventList(where=wherestr):
[21-May-2009 15:41:09] <rmatte> just tested it in zendmd, did: print event.message, also tried print evt.message as well as summary for both, no output
[21-May-2009 15:41:21] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: nuts
[21-May-2009 15:41:40] <mrayzenoss> found that in the forums, I wonder if it worked at all?
[21-May-2009 15:41:50] <rmatte> no idea
[21-May-2009 15:44:08] <rmatte> I need to get this code working, I've got the design down, the code just isn't adequate apparently: http://pastebin.com/m42b2ba98
[21-May-2009 15:46:30] <perr0> caseyh20: how did that come about?
[21-May-2009 15:46:45] <perr0> did you have to use your modifications for 2.4?
[21-May-2009 15:47:04] <caseyh20> perr0: yeah
[21-May-2009 15:47:16] <caseyh20> um, It was really messy to say the lest
[21-May-2009 15:47:18] <caseyh20> least
[21-May-2009 15:47:34] <caseyh20> I didn't even use the rrddeps
[21-May-2009 15:47:46] <perr0> ?
[21-May-2009 15:51:39] <caseyh20> I downloaded each dep and installed it manually, then downloaded rrdtool and installed it, then blocked out everything in the zenoss makefile for rrdtool and It worked, cept for an error in guid.py that I fixed by extracting libzenoss/Products.tar.gz and editing uuid.uuid to uuid in the guid.py file and re-compressing it. now I have it installed and running but it can't access my mysql db and when I try to edit the mysql login settings I get a traceback
[21-May-2009 15:52:22] <caseyh20> to manually install rrdtool I used this website http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdbuild.en.html
[21-May-2009 15:52:31] <perr0> ya
[21-May-2009 15:52:47] <mrayzenoss> caseyh20: RRDTool 1.3.7 or 1.3.5?
[21-May-2009 15:52:53] <caseyh20> 1.3.5
[21-May-2009 15:58:11] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/m6393b39c is what I get when I try to make any changes to mysql login settings
[21-May-2009 15:58:31] <perr0> caseyh20: you deserve a beer for your work
[21-May-2009 15:58:45] <caseyh20> I don't drink, lol
[21-May-2009 15:58:50] <perr0> root beer
[21-May-2009 15:59:03] <caseyh20> But I appreciate the jesture
[21-May-2009 15:59:04] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:00:33] <caseyh20> I am going to put up a detailed explanation of what I did on my blog, I am also going to see if I can't edit the installer script to work
[21-May-2009 16:00:42] <perr0> thank you
[21-May-2009 16:01:04] <caseyh20> no problem
[21-May-2009 16:01:05] <rmatte> don't drink? what fun is that?
[21-May-2009 16:01:08] <rmatte>
[21-May-2009 16:01:21] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:01:42] <perr0> I feel bad only being the cheerleader but we have a pen test and I am super busy
[21-May-2009 16:02:07] <rmatte> well then put on your pom poms and cheer on!
[21-May-2009 16:02:36] <perr0> rmatte: did you want pictures?
[21-May-2009 16:02:45] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:03:02] <rmatte> no thanks, I'll just use my imagination
[21-May-2009 16:03:24] <rmatte> I can just see perr0: "caseyh20 caseyh20 e so fine e so fine e blows our minds hey caseyh20!"
[21-May-2009 16:03:43] <rmatte> not sure if it'll really help with the coding though
[21-May-2009 16:03:56] <caseyh20> lol
[21-May-2009 16:04:02] <perr0> that song is outdated we need a more recent one
[21-May-2009 16:08:41] <pgega> hello again
[21-May-2009 16:15:06] <mrayzenoss> another fun meeting
[21-May-2009 16:36:43] <pgega> yeah returning to be question
[21-May-2009 16:37:05] <pgega> is it possible to add process monitor across multiple servers ?
[21-May-2009 16:37:13] <pgega> for example a class
[21-May-2009 16:58:39] <rmatte> pgega: you can add it globally, just click on "Services" on the left
[21-May-2009 16:58:58] <rmatte> enable it in there and it'll auto-apply it to any devices which it finds the process on when modelling them
[21-May-2009 17:01:32] <pgega> so the Services classes are not only for networking related serivces ie. http , ftp?
[21-May-2009 17:02:07] <pgega> i must monitor processes which do not listen on networking ports
[21-May-2009 17:17:57] <rmatte> it's for OS Processes as well
[21-May-2009 17:18:05] <rmatte> Which would be WinService
[21-May-2009 17:18:34] <rmatte> as long as you're monitoring them via SNMP, monitoring via WMI is a different story, but it should auto-discover them when modelling if you're taking that route
[21-May-2009 17:24:14] <pgega> rmatte, yes i am using snmp
[21-May-2009 17:24:34] <rmatte> then that's what you want
[21-May-2009 17:24:40] <rmatte> Services/WinServices
[21-May-2009 17:24:54] <pgega> so if i simply add some process to OSProcesses ,the process will be picked once zenoss will be remodeling devices ?
[21-May-2009 17:25:16] <rmatte> correct
[21-May-2009 17:25:51] * pgega missed some documentation chapter...
[21-May-2009 17:31:40] <pgega> rmatte,
[21-May-2009 17:31:53] <pgega> just run zenmodeler from commandline
[21-May-2009 17:32:01] <pgega> that was cool - thanks for that !
[21-May-2009 17:41:35] <rmatte> np
[21-May-2009 22:52:57] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[21-May-2009 22:53:18] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[21-May-2009 23:37:38] <raddy> Anybody out there???
[21-May-2009 23:44:50] <raddy> Anybody there???
[21-May-2009 23:56:40] <raddy> Anybody out there????
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[22-May-2009 00:09:56] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 00:10:04] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 00:10:45] <raddy> ZenJobs and ZenAcctions daemons occupying 100% CPU, in my multi-core server
[22-May-2009 00:14:33] <raddy> Anybody there????
[22-May-2009 00:25:50] <raddy> Anybody there???????
[22-May-2009 00:34:14] <raddy> Anybody there???????????????????????????
[22-May-2009 02:13:20] <raddy> Anybody out there?????
[22-May-2009 02:38:53] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 02:41:34] <Appiah_> hmm
[22-May-2009 02:42:05] <Appiah_> raddy: -!- Irssi: #zenoss: Total of 39 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 38 normal] , looks like people are here
[22-May-2009 03:01:59] <raddy> When i start zenaction and zenjobs daemon it uses 100% CPU in my multi-core server
[22-May-2009 03:02:06] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[22-May-2009 03:06:18] <Appiah_> try to elaborate and tell what version of zenoss you're running , what OS , and what jobs the daemon runs
[22-May-2009 03:06:40] <Appiah_> and not repeating "can anybody help" and such
[22-May-2009 03:07:10] <raddy> Appiah_: I dunno what jobs it is running, as log file is blank.
[22-May-2009 03:14:01] <raddy> Appiah_: I am using ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2.
[22-May-2009 03:35:18] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 03:35:51] <raddy> ZenOSS's Zenaction and Zenjobs occupies 100% CPU usage
[22-May-2009 03:36:02] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[22-May-2009 03:36:33] <raddy> I am running ZenOSS 2.4.1 on RHEL / CentOS 5.2.
[22-May-2009 03:52:47] <raddy> Anybody there???
[22-May-2009 04:02:42] <raddy> Anybody there??
[22-May-2009 04:11:58] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[22-May-2009 05:05:47] <raddy> Anybody there?
[22-May-2009 05:18:30] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[22-May-2009 05:19:23] <huggie> If anyone ever told you there was a ZenOSS community, they lied.
[22-May-2009 05:19:33] <huggie> There are sometimes people here US time on a Thursday.
[22-May-2009 05:19:45] <raddy> huggie : Ohhh
[22-May-2009 05:20:18] <raddy> huggie : there where one nice guy helping me in the morning too.
[22-May-2009 06:11:39] <raddy> Anybody there???
[22-May-2009 06:18:02] <rmatte> I am now
[22-May-2009 06:23:05] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[22-May-2009 06:23:36] <rmatte> hi
[22-May-2009 06:24:21] <raddy> rmatte : ZenAction and ZenJob occupying 100% CPU resources.
[22-May-2009 06:24:36] <raddy> rmatte : Can you help me in fixing it?
[22-May-2009 06:24:51] <rmatte> hmmm, have you checked the log files for those daemons?
[22-May-2009 06:24:59] <raddy> rmatte : i am running ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2
[22-May-2009 06:25:15] <rmatte> Settings/Daemons
[22-May-2009 06:25:24] <rmatte> then click on "view log" next to each daemon
[22-May-2009 06:25:30] <rmatte> look for anything strange in the logs
[22-May-2009 06:25:45] <raddy> rmatte : ZenJobs had empty log file, ZenAcctions had no interesting matter.
[22-May-2009 06:26:44] <rmatte> hmmm
[22-May-2009 06:26:52] <rmatte> check the zenhub one
[22-May-2009 06:27:09] <raddy> rmatte : Ohhh
[22-May-2009 06:28:53] <raddy> rmatte : there is some errors in it. shall pastebin it?
[22-May-2009 06:28:58] <rmatte> please
[22-May-2009 06:30:04] <raddy> rmatte : this one is recent error
[22-May-2009 06:30:07] <raddy> http://pastebin.com/m455c4df8
[22-May-2009 06:30:23] <raddy> rmatte : continously repeating.
[22-May-2009 06:31:04] <rmatte> well, that means one of your transforms is messed up, doubt that's causing the issue but you could go fix it
[22-May-2009 06:31:11] <rmatte> it's complaining about the indentation
[22-May-2009 06:31:20] <rmatte> you need to make sure that line 2 is properly indented
[22-May-2009 06:31:31] <raddy> rmatte : which line 2?
[22-May-2009 06:31:39] <raddy> http://pastebin.com/m5e1eb9dd
[22-May-2009 06:31:49] <raddy> rmatte : also check the above.
[22-May-2009 06:31:56] <rmatte> you have some transform on /Events/Status/OSProcess
[22-May-2009 06:32:18] <rmatte> yeh, same error
[22-May-2009 06:32:25] <rmatte> did you add any transforms lately?
[22-May-2009 06:33:18] <raddy> rmatte : yeah there is.
[22-May-2009 06:33:30] <rmatte> ok, so fix it
[22-May-2009 06:33:37] <rmatte> python is very specific about the indenting
[22-May-2009 06:33:50] <rmatte> it basically forces people to properly indent their code, which is nice
[22-May-2009 06:34:05] <rmatte> pastebin the actual transform and I'll tell you how to fix it
[22-May-2009 06:35:29] <raddy> rmatte : pastebin seems helping me to indent, still please check it out. http://pastebin.com/m77c7a285
[22-May-2009 06:36:49] <raddy> rmatte Don't spend time/
[22-May-2009 06:37:11] <raddy> rmatte : i think gwtrack_checker is non-existent now.
[22-May-2009 06:37:38] <raddy> rmatte : I'll temporarly remove the event transfor,
[22-May-2009 06:37:43] <raddy> tranform
[22-May-2009 06:39:42] <raddy> rmatte : How to rotate the log?
[22-May-2009 06:42:40] <rmatte> that last line need to be indented
[22-May-2009 06:43:07] <raddy> rmatte: NP. i removed the transform.
[22-May-2009 06:43:11] <rmatte> it rotates the logs automagically
[22-May-2009 06:43:24] <raddy> rmatte : BTW, i want to manually do it.
[22-May-2009 06:44:04] <rmatte> I'd imagine you'd just copy the current log file out and touch to create a new one
[22-May-2009 06:44:09] <rmatte> never done it
[22-May-2009 06:44:36] <raddy> rmatte : i also planning to do the same.
[22-May-2009 06:46:21] <raddy> rmatte : But, do think this is the reason for ZenAction and ZenJobs to use 100% CPU usage?
[22-May-2009 06:47:45] <rmatte> no idea
[22-May-2009 06:47:50] <rmatte> could be anything
[22-May-2009 06:48:03] <rmatte> are there any other scripts or processes using high CPU?
[22-May-2009 06:48:17] <raddy> rmatte : Nope.
[22-May-2009 06:48:37] <raddy> rmatte : i changed the port number for zoe i think
[22-May-2009 06:50:21] <raddy> rmatte : will that be reason.
[22-May-2009 06:52:19] <rmatte> nope
[22-May-2009 07:10:00] <raddy> rmatte : the CPU Usage issue still exists.
[22-May-2009 07:16:35] <rmatte> I have no idea what's causing that, you'll have to speak with a Zenoss dev or something
[22-May-2009 07:16:52] <rmatte> If it started recently, did you change anything?
[22-May-2009 07:43:44] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[22-May-2009 07:44:02] <raddy> rmatte : Yeah, i changed port setting
[22-May-2009 07:44:32] <rmatte> and the problem started right after?
[22-May-2009 07:44:47] <rmatte> (if you think it's the port, just change it back and see if it solves the problem)
[22-May-2009 07:44:56] <raddy> rmatte : seems so, and i recently upgrade zenoss
[22-May-2009 07:45:11] <rmatte> could have something to do with the upgrade as well
[22-May-2009 07:51:03] <raddy> Any ZenOSS experts devs there?
[22-May-2009 08:44:03] <rmatte> Whenever someone has a second: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9849
[22-May-2009 09:12:29] <idi> hi
[22-May-2009 09:12:58] <idi> please i want to know if after installing zenoss and the agent
[22-May-2009 09:13:15] <idi> and after do the correct configuration of snmpd.conf
[22-May-2009 09:14:57] <idi> i must have laLoadInt1 memBuffer memCached ....;. all the service detected automatically after add my host to monitor "" up""?
[22-May-2009 09:15:01] <idi> ???????
[22-May-2009 09:16:23] <idi> no one have an answer??
[22-May-2009 09:18:00] <perr0> I don't have it
[22-May-2009 09:18:20] <perr0> is is showing up in zenoss?
[22-May-2009 09:18:57] <idi> yes after i have added my host
[22-May-2009 09:19:26] <idi> a have found on the details of my device
[22-May-2009 09:19:31] <idi> all this services
[22-May-2009 09:19:37] <idi> but not up
[22-May-2009 09:21:37] <idi> one i select the details i have found this message
[22-May-2009 09:22:10] <idi> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on xxxxx(oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[22-May-2009 09:23:44] <rmatte> you're polling an OID that's not supported on that device
[22-May-2009 09:24:58] <idi> how can i got the correct oid
[22-May-2009 09:25:35] <idi> ???
[22-May-2009 09:34:40] <perr0> what os are you running?
[22-May-2009 09:37:49] <idi> ubuntu 8.04
[22-May-2009 09:48:10] <perr0> I am not too familiar with Ubuntu or if OIDs are related between Linux systems
[22-May-2009 09:48:15] <perr0> have you searched google?
[22-May-2009 09:48:17] <perr0> http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2005/10/mini-howto-2-system-monitoring-via.html
[22-May-2009 09:50:28] <idi> yes i have searched in google
[22-May-2009 09:50:57] <idi> i haven't installed net-snmp but snmpd
[22-May-2009 09:51:58] <idi> even that zenoss concider the "" HW Model Net-SNMP Agent""
[22-May-2009 09:52:00] <idi> !!!!!
[22-May-2009 09:52:34] <idi> thanks perr0 for the links
[22-May-2009 09:52:37] <idi>
[22-May-2009 09:58:14] <perr0> is the same thing, the snmpd is the damon for net-snmp
[22-May-2009 09:58:22] <perr0> daemon*
[22-May-2009 09:58:50] <perr0> did the link help?
[22-May-2009 10:01:25] <idi> he is helpfull if i will restart the install of the agent
[22-May-2009 10:01:28] <idi>
[22-May-2009 10:02:28] <idi> perr0 when i execute the command snmpwalk -v 1 -c "community" target_name_or_ip .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4
[22-May-2009 10:02:43] <idi> i got "end of mib"
[22-May-2009 10:03:13] <idi> and when i excute the command snmpget -v 1 -c "community" target_name_or_ip .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.7.0
[22-May-2009 10:03:39] <idi> i got ""Error in packet Reason: (noSuchName) There is no such variable name in this MIB. Failed object: UCD-SNMP-MIB::dskAvail.1""
[22-May-2009 10:03:51] <idi> ???
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total Swap Size: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.3.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Available Swap Space: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.4.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM in machine: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.5.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM used: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.6.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:32] <perr0> Total RAM Free: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.11.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:33] <perr0> Total RAM Shared: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.13.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:35] <perr0> Total RAM Buffered: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:37] <perr0> Total Cached Memory: .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.15.0
[22-May-2009 10:08:56] <perr0> sorry for the paste
[22-May-2009 10:09:18] <perr0> looks like that oid is bad?
[22-May-2009 10:09:22] <perr0> try the above
[22-May-2009 10:09:25] <idi> yes
[22-May-2009 10:11:19] <idi> i have tried and i have the same answer
[22-May-2009 10:11:20] <idi> error
[22-May-2009 10:11:25] <idi>
[22-May-2009 10:21:57] <perr0> zap skarphace how is coming along?
[22-May-2009 11:49:38] <rmatte> good afternoon Matt
[22-May-2009 11:49:51] <mrayzenoss> still got 11 more minutes of morning
[22-May-2009 11:49:58] <rmatte> not here
[22-May-2009 11:50:07] <rmatte> 12:43pm
[22-May-2009 11:50:14] <rmatte> I'm guessing you're an hour ahead
[22-May-2009 11:50:21] <mrayzenoss> and 6 minutes?
[22-May-2009 11:50:21] <rmatte> actually, my clock on my computer is off...
[22-May-2009 11:50:26] <mrayzenoss> heh
[22-May-2009 11:50:43] * rmatte executes "ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov"
[22-May-2009 11:51:18] <rmatte> hmmm, and it's still off, odd
[22-May-2009 11:51:41] <rmatte> ah there we go
[22-May-2009 11:52:01] <rmatte> would Chet happen to be around at all?
[22-May-2009 11:52:28] <mrayzenoss> I think I heard he was upgrading one of our larger customers today
[22-May-2009 11:52:36] <rmatte> I need input on that script that I was working on yesterday, he'll probably know some better way of doing what I'm trying to do
[22-May-2009 11:52:38] <rmatte> ah
[22-May-2009 11:52:56] <rmatte> I posted it on the forums like you said
[22-May-2009 11:53:00] <rmatte> so whenever
[22-May-2009 11:53:03] <mrayzenoss> I'll ping him on it when I ask him about that event transform he had mentioned
[22-May-2009 11:53:16] <rmatte> sounds good, appreciate it
[22-May-2009 11:58:54] <rmatte> we finally got our lab box up and running today, woot
[22-May-2009 11:59:05] <rmatte> now I can actually do some real testing
[22-May-2009 11:59:42] <rmatte> still need to rack and configure a whole bunch of network equipment for the lab though
[22-May-2009 12:00:50] <rmatte> we had the lab box and a bunch of virtual machines running on it in a particular subnet when we discovered that that particular subnet was actually being used for client tunnels, so we had to re-assign IPs to everything (which we are still working on
)[22-May-2009 13:06:50] <rmatte> can I export my entire /Events tree to a zenpack and have it install cleanly on another Zenoss server?
[22-May-2009 13:07:13] <rmatte> or will the fact that the other server already has some of those event categories on it cause issues?
[22-May-2009 13:45:30] <rmatte> hey Matt...
[22-May-2009 13:46:43] <rmatte> I was thinking about that bug ticket that I logged about the Linux monitoring... they are requesting a patch but a patch isn't even necessary, all that's needed is to add the /Linux/SSH group by default and just bind those plugins to it, that would essentially resolve the issue.
[22-May-2009 14:35:28] <mrayzenoss> I am trying to get all the Core ZenPacks bundled into the installers
[22-May-2009 16:36:12] <gemineye> I have a zencommand question. What should the format of the output of a zencommand be to pull multiple data sources?
[22-May-2009 17:24:58] <gemineye> Anyone awake?
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[23-May-2009 06:00:41] <pgega> Hello
[23-May-2009 11:26:26] <afink> Hello everyone, I have been having trouble getting centos performance graphs to show in zenoss, They worked out of the box on my suse machines. Is there a software package that I don't have possibly?
[23-May-2009 11:27:31] <afink> brb
[23-May-2009 12:01:05] <afink> Hello everyone, I have been having trouble getting centos performance graphs to show in zenoss, They worked out of the box on my suse machines. Is there a software package that I don't have possibly?
[23-May-2009 12:10:55] <perr0> the only package I can think of is snmp
[23-May-2009 12:11:19] <perr0> rpm -qa |grep snmp
[23-May-2009 12:11:29] <perr0> to be exact it would be net-snmp
[23-May-2009 14:22:11] <rhettlap> make sure you can snmpwalk the devices from the server and from the zenoss console
[23-May-2009 14:22:16] <rhettlap> it maybe an snmp version problem
[23-May-2009 14:28:34] <afink> I do have net-snmp, and can snmp walk the devices
[23-May-2009 14:28:40] <afink> must be a version problem
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[24-May-2009 00:23:59] <dprophit> just installed this vmware file. The dhcp IP given is not even showing up on my linksys router table
[24-May-2009 02:14:27] <blackgraz> can anyone point me to how to have zenoss populate HW info and net traffic on debian
[24-May-2009 02:15:14] <caseyh20> whats going on everybody?
[24-May-2009 02:30:25] <blackgraz> ?
[24-May-2009 02:30:57] <caseyh20> just asking whats up
[24-May-2009 02:31:46] <blackgraz> wondering why my shit is not populating
[24-May-2009 02:32:03] <caseyh20> lol
[24-May-2009 02:32:09] <caseyh20> what version you running?
[24-May-2009 02:32:33] <blackgraz> latest on debian
[24-May-2009 02:32:59] <blackgraz> i installed the deb from the website then zenoss-stack
[24-May-2009 02:33:23] <blackgraz> installed core from the website....
[24-May-2009 02:34:17] <caseyh20> have you checked trac to see if there are any bugs for your issue?
[24-May-2009 02:34:29] <blackgraz> not yet
[24-May-2009 02:34:48] <blackgraz> just needed to be pointed to the right direction i guess
[24-May-2009 02:36:02] <blackgraz> byebye
[24-May-2009 04:24:17] <rhettlap> if you're using snmp monitoring verify you can snmpwalk the device by going to said device, go to the menu, go to run commands and then select snmpwalk
[24-May-2009 04:25:24] <rhettlap> also make sure all of the zenoss daemons are running but go to settings and the daemons tab or using service zenoss status (or /etc/init.d/zenoss status)
[24-May-2009 04:26:54] <rhettlap> the grammar is screwed up there but i assume you can figure out what i was trying to say
[24-May-2009 04:27:09] <rhettlap> on that note i am going to bed
[24-May-2009 05:13:48] <raddy> Anybody out there?
[24-May-2009 05:14:00] <raddy> I have two major problems.
[24-May-2009 05:14:40] <raddy> 1: zenactions and zenjobs occupies 100% CPU utilization when started.
[24-May-2009 05:15:32] <raddy> 2: Can't remove ApacheMonitor ZenPack
[24-May-2009 05:17:03] <raddy> Can anybody help me?
[24-May-2009 05:24:40] <raddy> Anybody there?
[24-May-2009 06:26:40] <pgega> Hi
[24-May-2009 06:40:33] <pgega> are there any plans to add improved search to performance graphs ?
[24-May-2009 06:41:18] <pgega> for example something like cacti - based on date ranges
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[24-May-2009 17:36:18] <rsFF> while reading the zenpack for vmware virtual machines it says i need to create a device organizer
[24-May-2009 17:36:25] <rsFF> where is that in the dashboard
[24-May-2009 17:36:26] <rsFF> ?
[24-May-2009 18:28:01] <rsFF> im not getting cpu clock stats in a vmware host
[24-May-2009 18:28:06] <rsFF> do i need some zenpack
[24-May-2009 18:28:21] <rsFF> is the ESX one also suitable for a normal virtual machine??
[24-May-2009 21:52:06] <rhettlap> uncertain. i dont personally use vmware
[24-May-2009 22:32:30] <rsFF> rhettlap: could u help me out on using zenpacks
[24-May-2009 22:32:38] <rsFF> its a litlle bit confusing
[24-May-2009 23:37:23] <rsFF> im getting a lot of missing RRD file xxxxx
[24-May-2009 23:37:30] <rsFF> is that normal?
[24-May-2009 23:53:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[24-May-2009 23:53:48] <raddy> Anybody there?
[24-May-2009 23:54:08] <raddy> I have three Zenoss related issues.
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[25-May-2009 00:03:30] <raddy> Hi rmatte
[25-May-2009 00:03:56] <raddy> rmatte : I have some problems in ZenOSS and was waiting for you.
[25-May-2009 00:04:04] <raddy> rmatte : are you there?
[25-May-2009 00:19:26] <raddy> rmatte : Are you there?
[25-May-2009 00:46:16] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 01:00:25] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 02:32:53] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 02:47:18] <raddy> rsFF: Hi
[25-May-2009 02:49:46] <raddy> Anybody there???
[25-May-2009 03:23:18] <Appiah> better to just state your problem
[25-May-2009 03:23:25] <Appiah> instead of asking if they are here
[25-May-2009 07:50:36] <raddy> Anybody there?
[25-May-2009 08:11:52] <Appiah> alot of people in here
[25-May-2009 08:12:11] <Appiah> just ask your question , state your problem , dont flood the channel asking if anybody is here
[25-May-2009 08:12:23] <Appiah> like... 3rd day in a row?
[25-May-2009 08:13:05] <raddy> Appiah : I have already asked my question previously.
[25-May-2009 08:13:13] <raddy> Appiah : I'll rephrase.
[25-May-2009 08:14:09] <raddy> I am using ZenOSS 2.4.1 in CentOS 5.2-64 Edition.
[25-May-2009 08:14:50] <raddy> ZenJobs and ZenActions occupies 100% CPU usage when started
[25-May-2009 08:15:50] <raddy> So i have not started it.
[25-May-2009 08:18:43] <raddy> Can anybody provide me solution?
[25-May-2009 08:31:00] <Appiah> what does the log for ZenJobs and ZenActions say?
[25-May-2009 08:31:03] <Appiah> logs*
[25-May-2009 08:31:23] <raddy> Appiah : Nothing interesting.
[25-May-2009 08:31:36] <raddy> Appiah : ZenJobs log is empty.
[25-May-2009 08:31:52] <raddy> Appiah : ZenActions doesn't show any errors
[25-May-2009 09:21:43] <rmatte> shouldn't putting a device in a state of "Decommed" automatically stop monitoring it?
[25-May-2009 09:29:59] <rmatte> ah nevermind
[25-May-2009 10:01:09] <rmatte> ok, so I have a server with SNMP enabled on it, when I do an snmpwalk I can see the info for hard disks, interfaces, software, etc... When I model the device in Zenoss, it says that it's processing a bunch of snmp collector plugins but then quickly says "No change in configuration detected" right after, and never collects any info.
[25-May-2009 10:01:14] <rmatte> any ideas on what might be wrong?
[25-May-2009 10:32:59] <aburgel> hello
[25-May-2009 10:33:59] <aburgel> got a question about zenoss & mysql... anyone around?
[25-May-2009 10:35:46] <perr0> why don't you just ask and see if anyone is around?
[25-May-2009 10:36:06] <aburgel> k
[25-May-2009 10:36:44] <aburgel> zenoss is opening and then immediately closing a connection to one of my mysql instances
[25-May-2009 10:36:53] <perr0> usually is active but I am assuming is quiet cause of the holiday
[25-May-2009 10:37:06] <rmatte> Hope this gets looked at/fixed by the time 2.4.2 or 2.4.3 roll around: http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/5070
[25-May-2009 10:37:43] <aburgel> not sure why zenoss is doing this, but it causes mysql to block connections from my zenoss server
[25-May-2009 10:38:01] <perr0> aburgel: is this a new install?
[25-May-2009 10:38:16] <aburgel> i thought it was the mysql zenpack template, but i turned it off and its still happening
[25-May-2009 10:38:27] <aburgel> not a new install
[25-May-2009 10:38:37] <aburgel> i've been having it for a while
[25-May-2009 10:39:00] <aburgel> first on 2.3, then i upgraded to 2.4.1 in hopes that it would go away, but its still happening
[25-May-2009 10:39:32] <aburgel> i've been monitoring with tcpdump, and i see a connection every minute that immediately closes
[25-May-2009 10:39:48] <aburgel> so i'm not sure which part of zenoss is doing this
[25-May-2009 10:41:11] <perr0> so it just happened all of a sudden of was this after you install the mysql zenpack?
[25-May-2009 10:42:24] <aburgel> i think after installing the zenpack, but i'm not 100% sure
[25-May-2009 10:42:36] <HugoDaniel> hi
[25-May-2009 10:42:40] <HugoDaniel> im about to try zenoss
[25-May-2009 10:43:03] <aburgel> i don't have an IPService on that device for mysql, but i do have an OSProcess for mysql
[25-May-2009 10:44:14] <perr0> aburgel: when you login to zenoss do you get an "Unable to connect to the MySQL server."?
[25-May-2009 10:44:26] <aburgel> no
[25-May-2009 10:44:38] <aburgel> this is a different mysql server
[25-May-2009 10:44:48] <aburgel> not the one used by zenoss for event logging
[25-May-2009 10:45:17] <perr0> got it
[25-May-2009 10:46:44] <aburgel> i think it could be zenstatus, but i have no idea how to confirm this, or to fix it
[25-May-2009 10:49:56] <perr0> aburgel: did you give zenoss the access to your MySQL server?
[25-May-2009 10:50:49] <aburgel> for the zenpack, yes. but i don't think its possible to configure zenstatus with a mysql login
[25-May-2009 10:51:06] <aburgel> but like i said, i disabled the zenpack and the problem still happens
[25-May-2009 11:07:02] <aburgel> if an IPService is not 'monitored', does that mean that zenoss still tries to connect, but just ignores the result? or does it mean that it doesn't try to connect at all?
[25-May-2009 11:11:56] <rmatte> it won't try to connect at all
[25-May-2009 11:12:31] <rmatte> and when modelling, it performs a portscan on the device and sees if any of the ports have been defined in Services, if so, then it adds it and starts monitoring it
[25-May-2009 11:15:01] <aburgel> is there any other part of zenoss that would connect to a port on a monitored device every minute? aside from zenstatus and a zenpack?
[25-May-2009 11:20:15] <rmatte> nope
[25-May-2009 11:21:37] <aburgel> i've removed the mysql IPService from zenoss, that seems to have stopped the connections (even though monitored=false), i'll play around with it some more to see if i can figure out what was wrong. i'll be back if i find something interesting
[25-May-2009 11:21:44] <aburgel> thanks for everyone's help
[25-May-2009 12:59:07] <rmatte> is there any quick way to remove Zenoss on Ubuntu?
[25-May-2009 12:59:15] <rmatte> I thought it added an entry to aptitude but apparently not
[25-May-2009 13:01:04] <rmatte> nevermind, found the uninstall script
[25-May-2009 15:02:50] <rmatte> weird, the whole "import Globals" thing doesn't work to create standalone python scripts in 2.4.1 anymore?
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> zenoss@Base-Image:/mspfiles/scripts/tools/hosts$ ./hosts.py
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 2: import: command not found
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> from: can't read /var/mail/Products.ZenUtils.ZenScriptBase
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> from: can't read /var/mail/transaction
[25-May-2009 15:03:09] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[25-May-2009 15:03:10] <rmatte> ./hosts.py: line 6: `dmd = ZenScriptBase(connect=True).dmd'
[25-May-2009 15:03:30] <rmatte> same script works perfectly fine with 2.3.3
[25-May-2009 15:08:55] <rmatte> ah nevermind, it's because of how I wrote that particular script, I forgot about something
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[26-May-2009 00:41:16] <alie> hallow
[26-May-2009 05:53:59] <mara> morning
[26-May-2009 05:55:04] <mara> i have installed zenoss 2.4.1 and i have configured my agent
[26-May-2009 05:55:36] <mara> my problem is when i model my device
[26-May-2009 05:56:24] <mara> i get this "" No Python plugins found for xxxxxxx""
[26-May-2009 05:56:39] <mara> even i have installed python
[26-May-2009 05:56:55] <mara> any one have an answer???
[26-May-2009 08:32:09] <ctaloi> hey all - quick question, have a node with two SNMP agents on it (one hardware (sun) and one software (vendor provided)) The hardware agent is running on the standard port and the vendor agent is running on a non-standard port - how can I configure my device in Zenoss to use both agents?
[26-May-2009 09:05:03] <jb> do you guys know if traps such as "alertVirtualDiskWarning" are used across the industry.. or is it a dell specific trap?
[26-May-2009 10:11:20] <rocket> Morning Matt
[26-May-2009 10:11:26] <mrayzenoss> good morning
[26-May-2009 10:43:04] <Dieterbe> Hi, i installed the mysql monitor zenpack in a brand new zenoss core installation on debian. i restarted zenoss, and the zenpack shows up fine under "zenpacks" in the web interface. however, i cannot figure out how to apply the mysql monitoring to some hosts
[26-May-2009 10:44:03] <mrayzenoss> have you checked out the Extended Monitoring Guide chapter 11?
[26-May-2009 10:44:09] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/
[26-May-2009 10:45:08] <Dieterbe> aha, no i haven't. thanks
[26-May-2009 10:45:27] <mrayzenoss> no prob, it's a new doc with the 2.4 release
[26-May-2009 10:47:04] <rmatte> has anyone seen this error before when trying to save on a device edit tab?
[26-May-2009 10:47:06] <rmatte> Value: Empty entry when <strong>integer</strong> expected
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> Traceback (innermost last):
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 76, in publish
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 530, in processInputs
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> * Module ZPublisher.Converters, line 63, in field2int
[26-May-2009 10:47:20] <rmatte> ValueError: Empty entry when <strong>integer</strong> expected
[26-May-2009 10:47:29] <rmatte> one of our Zenoss servers crashed and now it's doing that
[26-May-2009 10:51:43] <rmatte> anyone alive?
[26-May-2009 10:52:42] <rmatte> ah, it's because the rack slot value isn't populate now for some reason
[26-May-2009 10:54:21] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/5011
[26-May-2009 10:54:57] <rmatte> yeh, I read that, the problem is that it wasn't doing that before
[26-May-2009 10:55:10] <rmatte> the server crashed because it ran out of disk space
[26-May-2009 10:55:16] <mrayzenoss> we've got a lot of tickets about fixing validation, we're slowly chewing through them
[26-May-2009 10:55:18] <rmatte> after I brought it back up it started doing this
[26-May-2009 10:55:23] <Dieterbe> btw, i have a brandnew zenoss core installation on debian (installed with the official .deb), the 2.4 one. I added some Server/Linux boxes, it can connect with snmp fine, but in "perf" the rrd graphs say "MISSING RRD FILE" is this a known problem? or do i have to wait longer? the install is 20 minutes old or so (and only monitors 2 servers)
[26-May-2009 10:55:46] <rmatte> I need to use zendmd to repopulate the rack slot value to 0 for all devices, any idea how I'd go about doing that?
[26-May-2009 10:55:57] <Dieterbe> the graph for "load average" that is, cpu/memory/io just show no graph at all
[26-May-2009 10:56:04] <Dieterbe> no image at all, i mean
[26-May-2009 10:56:39] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: some graphs are showing, but not all?
[26-May-2009 10:57:49] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: sorry let me rephrase. "load average" shows an rrd image, but no graph. it says "MISSING RRD FILE". cpu, memory and io show even no image
[26-May-2009 10:57:53] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: something like http://www.zenoss.com/Members/shaskell/useful-zendmd-scripts/
[26-May-2009 10:58:36] <rmatte> Dieterbe: i'd wait another 10 minutes or so, if they don't load by then then you have an issue, also, go in to the event console, and use the dropdown in the center to select "Debug" to check for debug messages
[26-May-2009 10:59:40] <rmatte> mrayzenoss: any idea what device variable represents the rack slot?
[26-May-2009 10:59:42] <mrayzenoss> rmatte: the reset bindings script could be repurposed to dev.rackSlot='0' or something
[26-May-2009 11:00:20] <mrayzenoss> looking at http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.4.0/ZenModel.Device-module.html
[26-May-2009 11:00:22] <rmatte> is dev.rackSlot a valid value though?
[26-May-2009 11:00:33] <mrayzenoss> I dunno, try it in zendmd
[26-May-2009 11:00:43] <mrayzenoss> just pull 1 device and set it to '5' or something
[26-May-2009 11:00:47] <mrayzenoss> commit it and check the UI
[26-May-2009 11:00:58] <mrayzenoss> if that works, set all of them to 0
[26-May-2009 11:02:54] <rmatte> k
[26-May-2009 11:04:33] <rmatte> device.rackSlot doesn't work
[26-May-2009 11:06:48] <rmatte> I've also tried just device.slot and device.rack
[26-May-2009 11:07:37] <rmatte> it's supposed to be rackSlot from what I googled
[26-May-2009 11:10:28] <rmatte> but it's not working
[26-May-2009 11:12:23] <rmatte> this should be working, what the hell
[26-May-2009 11:12:46] <rmatte> ah, I needed to commit()
[26-May-2009 11:12:48] <rmatte> good
[26-May-2009 11:14:57] <mrayzenoss> yeah, rackSlot was what the API had
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> >>> for d in dmd.Devices.getSubDevices():
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> ... d.rackSlot=0
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> ...
[26-May-2009 11:15:17] <rmatte> >>> commit()
[26-May-2009 11:15:20] <rmatte> that worked
[26-May-2009 11:15:26] <mrayzenoss> cool
[26-May-2009 11:15:36] <rmatte> thanks
[26-May-2009 11:16:06] <mrayzenoss> glad I got it right
[26-May-2009 11:17:00] <Dieterbe> I still have "missing rrd file" in my 'load average' image and cpu, memory and io show still no image at all. the mysql graphs from the mysql zenpack work fine
[26-May-2009 11:18:06] <rmatte> hehe
[26-May-2009 11:25:46] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: you're sure SNMP is working against those boxes? check the $ZENHOME/perf directory permissions for the host that's not updating
[26-May-2009 11:25:48] <Dieterbe> http://www.nopaste.pl/cl0 here's my event log
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-xr-x 4 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:48 .
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxrwxr-x 15 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 17:30 ..
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-xr-x 3 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:03 Daemons
[26-May-2009 11:26:53] <Dieterbe> drwxr-x--- 3 zenoss zenoss 4.0K 2009-05-26 16:48 Devices
[26-May-2009 11:29:12] <mrayzenoss> hmm... I wonder what's up with /tmp/renderserver
[26-May-2009 11:29:49] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: try shutting down zenoss and seeing if /tmp/renderserver goes away. If it doesn't delete it
[26-May-2009 11:29:51] <mrayzenoss> and restart
[26-May-2009 11:30:52] <Dieterbe> /tmp/renderserver is empty (not restarted yet)
[26-May-2009 11:30:59] <mrayzenoss> check the permissions
[26-May-2009 11:31:28] <mrayzenoss> found this reference to it: http://www.zenoss.com/community/discuss/irc/archives/irc-feb-2007
[26-May-2009 11:31:41] <mrayzenoss> someone had permissions issues with it 2 years ago
[26-May-2009 11:32:02] <Dieterbe> ls -alh /tmp/renderserver
[26-May-2009 11:32:03] <Dieterbe> drwxr-x--- 2 zenoss zenoss 1.0K 2009-05-26 18:27 .
[26-May-2009 11:32:03] <Dieterbe> drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 9.0K 2009-05-26 18:27 ..
[26-May-2009 11:33:32] <mrayzenoss> weird, that's what mine's set to (Debian 5)
[26-May-2009 11:36:09] <Dieterbe> ok i restarted my zenoss now
[26-May-2009 11:38:11] <Dieterbe> still the same problem :/
[26-May-2009 11:40:11] <Dieterbe> and getting the exacty same error in the event log as well
[26-May-2009 11:40:25] <Dieterbe> 2009-05-26T18:39:38 ERROR RenderServer Failed to generate a graph
[26-May-2009 11:40:26] <Dieterbe> Traceback (most recent call last):
[26-May-2009 11:40:26] <Dieterbe> File "/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/RenderServer.py", line 190, in render
[26-May-2009 11:40:29] <Dieterbe> rrdtool.graph(*gopts)
[26-May-2009 11:40:31] <Dieterbe> error
[26-May-2009 11:43:12] <Dieterbe> hmm googling that error gives me 1 person with the same problem, but no fix
http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=33808[26-May-2009 11:46:40] <Dieterbe> aha. debug messages say stuff like this: Error reading value for "memBuffer" on 127.0.0.1 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[26-May-2009 11:47:21] <Dieterbe> however, i installed snmpd on debian, verified that the listen address is correct, and it shows up in netstat so it's listening
[26-May-2009 11:47:30] <Dieterbe> it's even localhost, btw
[26-May-2009 11:47:44] <Dieterbe> so it should just connect to 127.0.0.1
[26-May-2009 11:48:34] <Dieterbe> this command `snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 127.0.0.1 system` also works fine
[26-May-2009 11:49:43] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: any more ideas?
[26-May-2009 12:10:36] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: never mind i fixed it. i regenerated my snmp config and now it works
[26-May-2009 12:10:49] <Dieterbe> thanks for your help btw, you too rmatte
[26-May-2009 12:33:39] <baffle> rmatte: Hi, remember me with the broken DB?
[26-May-2009 12:33:56] <baffle> rmatte: Last time we talked, you had some ideas on who might be able to help me. Who was that again?
[26-May-2009 12:43:01] <baffle> I have some broken objects in my ZODB, wich makes (among other things) ToManyRelationship.py and ToManyContRelationship.py barf.
[26-May-2009 12:43:10] <baffle> I need to find out how to remove these.
[26-May-2009 12:44:51] <baffle> Example: http://paste2.org/p/226517
[26-May-2009 12:53:00] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog/
[26-May-2009 12:53:20] <mrayzenoss> or try doing a reindex() first
[26-May-2009 12:58:38] <daMaestro> does anyone know if there is a way to properly rename a device? aka.. so zenoss actually renames the storage location for all of the rrd data?
[26-May-2009 12:59:09] <daMaestro> say we have device a.b.c.example.org and we want to change it to a.b.v.example.org ... when we issue a rename.. both folders for rrd data remain
[26-May-2009 12:59:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: reindex() explodes.
[26-May-2009 12:59:38] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I've tried fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog allready.
[26-May-2009 13:01:11] <baffle> mrayzenoss: reindex() results in http://paste2.org/p/226529
[26-May-2009 13:02:07] <baffle> Right now I have some patches in ToManyContRelationship.py that ignores the broken objects so that zenmodeller ++ will (somewhat) work, but I hit bugs like this all over. Yay. :-)
[26-May-2009 13:03:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: The main problem is probably an old attempt at a ZenPack that never worked. Most code is here: http://open.eunet.no/Products_Xscf.tgz
[26-May-2009 13:08:25] <rocket> baffle: can you go to http://<server>:8080/zport/dmd/ZenPackManager/manage ?
[26-May-2009 13:08:42] <rocket> enter the administrator user name and password if it prompts
[26-May-2009 13:09:08] <baffle> rocket: 1 sec.
[26-May-2009 13:09:24] <rocket> click on packs ..
[26-May-2009 13:11:02] <baffle> rocket: I've deleted the reference to the Xscf pack there allready. :-/ I did it last time I tried to fix this, with the help of rmatte.
[26-May-2009 13:11:39] <jb> sup rocket
[26-May-2009 13:11:45] <baffle> rocket: But, hmm, right now I have my patches in place to ignore the broken objects, might it be hidden in this view?
[26-May-2009 13:11:59] <rocket> baffle: do you have any devices you modelled with that zenpack?
[26-May-2009 13:12:06] <baffle> rocket: Yes, probably.
[26-May-2009 13:12:13] <rocket> baffle: you might need to remodel or remove them to make this go away
[26-May-2009 13:12:19] <rocket> jb: not much and you?
[26-May-2009 13:12:57] <rocket> baffle: one thing you could do is backup your perf directory and your mysql database of events
[26-May-2009 13:13:04] <rmatte> I'm pretty sure I asked this before, but can anyone confirm that the issue of model names showing up as OID values even though there is an associated product in the product section issue fixed in 2.4.1?
[26-May-2009 13:13:12] <rocket> do a fresh install and then restore the mysql db and perf entries
[26-May-2009 13:13:13] <jb> rocket: ah nothing.. hows the pack coming?
[26-May-2009 13:13:31] <rocket> jb: its coming I submitted a work in progress to matt late last week
[26-May-2009 13:13:46] <jb> cool
[26-May-2009 13:13:49] <jb> any new features?
[26-May-2009 13:14:05] <rocket> baffle: you would then obviously have to add back in the devices you wish to monitor etc
[26-May-2009 13:14:31] <rocket> baffle: thats probably the worst case solution etc if you cant start over ..
[26-May-2009 13:14:41] <baffle> rocket: Actually, it seems the devices that was modelled using this pack has allready been removed.. Probably due to http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/fix-a-broken-devicesearch-or-componentsearch-catalog/ or simmilar.
[26-May-2009 13:15:08] <baffle> rocket: I have 400 devices, with lots of custom templates and checks, not really possible.
[26-May-2009 13:15:17] <baffle> Hmm, more that 400 devices.
[26-May-2009 13:16:03] <rocket> jb: sure there are
[26-May-2009 13:16:35] <baffle> What I probably need to do is to unregister Products.Xscf.XscfDevice somehow.
[26-May-2009 13:17:49] <rocket> baffle: does zendump work?
[26-May-2009 13:17:49] <jb> oh yeah?
[26-May-2009 13:18:14] <rocket> jb: wrote a basic version of a predictive threshold zenpack for it ..
[26-May-2009 13:18:41] <rocket> jb: it does print queues, printers, hard disks, cards,
[26-May-2009 13:18:42] <baffle> rocket: Yeah, I imported my broken ZODB from another instance.
[26-May-2009 13:19:07] <rocket> baffle: can you grep the dump for XscfDevice for me?
[26-May-2009 13:19:37] <baffle> rocket: I'll unpack and check.
[26-May-2009 13:19:46] <jb> ah cool
[26-May-2009 13:19:54] <baffle> rocket: Like zenbackup/repozo/2009-05-19-15-00-17.fs ?
[26-May-2009 13:20:17] <baffle> Like in, I mean.
[26-May-2009 13:20:30] <rocket> baffle: try that .. it should have a bunch of xml in it
[26-May-2009 13:21:18] <baffle> rocket: I find references, yeah.
[26-May-2009 13:21:32] <rocket> baffle: can you paste bin them?
[26-May-2009 13:22:10] <rocket> jb: tape devices, cdroms, printer, ... working on lparinfo .. eg the profile information
[26-May-2009 13:22:12] <baffle> rocket: It's binary, should I just paste the strings or some content around it or..?
[26-May-2009 13:22:35] <rocket> baffle: can you just run zendump?
[26-May-2009 13:22:59] <baffle> Oh, right, I was looking at the backup. Sorry1
[26-May-2009 13:24:01] <baffle> s/1/oneone/
[26-May-2009 13:26:14] <baffle> rocket: Still dumping.
[26-May-2009 13:26:29] <rocket> baffle: I assume you redirected it to a file?
[26-May-2009 13:26:37] <rocket> zendump > /tmp/x for example
[26-May-2009 13:27:58] <baffle> rocket: I used -o ?
[26-May-2009 13:28:07] <rocket> baffle: that works too
[26-May-2009 13:29:13] <rocket> baffle: you might be able to use the --ignore relation too .. I havent used that before .. but you might be able to say zendump -o foo --ignore=Products.Xscf.XscfDevice
[26-May-2009 13:29:34] <baffle> rocket: Yay, it died.
[26-May-2009 13:29:35] <rocket> and it will create a new zeo database you could import basically
[26-May-2009 13:29:49] <rocket> it died as is Traceback?
[26-May-2009 13:29:49] <baffle> rocket: I'll try to do that now.
[26-May-2009 13:29:53] <baffle> rocket: Yes.
[26-May-2009 13:30:00] <rocket> what was the Trace?
[26-May-2009 13:30:13] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226548
[26-May-2009 13:30:40] <baffle> I'll try to make a dump with --ignore now.
[26-May-2009 13:31:39] <rocket> baffle: otherwise I might have a patch for you to try to get a clean dump
[26-May-2009 13:32:15] suse is now known as Guest39152
[26-May-2009 13:33:36] <baffle> rocket: Great.. It's 2/3 to where it crashed last time (judging by filesize..)
[26-May-2009 13:35:38] <baffle> rocket: Yeah, it died again.
[26-May-2009 13:36:21] <rocket> baffle: in ToManyRelationship.py
[26-May-2009 13:36:22] <rocket> def objectIdsAll(self):
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> Return object ids as their absolute primaryId.~
[26-May-2009 13:36:23] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 13:36:25] <rocket> objs=[]
[26-May-2009 13:36:27] <rocket> for obj in self._objects:
[26-May-2009 13:36:30] <rocket> if hasattr(obj,'getPrimaryId'):
[26-May-2009 13:36:32] <rocket> objs.append((obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:36:35] <rocket> return objs
[26-May-2009 13:36:37] <rocket> #return [obj.getPrimaryId() for obj in self._objects]
[26-May-2009 13:42:11] <rocket> baffle: any luck?
[26-May-2009 13:47:00] <baffle> rocket: Err, it errors on the retrn...?
[26-May-2009 13:47:03] <baffle> return
[26-May-2009 13:47:19] <rocket> Traceback?
[26-May-2009 13:47:25] <baffle> Ah, is there maybe a ) missing..
[26-May-2009 13:47:32] <baffle> objs.append((obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:47:42] <baffle> Should that be objs.append(obj.getPrimaryId())
[26-May-2009 13:47:43] <baffle> ?
[26-May-2009 13:47:56] <rocket> baffle: probably yes
[26-May-2009 13:48:29] <baffle> rocket: Better. :-
[26-May-2009 13:48:53] <baffle> rocket: Retrying a dump now.. Should I use --ignore this time as well? Or should I just keep the references and clean up manually?
[26-May-2009 13:49:03] <rocket> keep the references
[26-May-2009 13:49:18] <rocket> baffle: but most likely the dump will not contain them
[26-May-2009 13:49:25] <baffle> rocket: Hopefully.
[26-May-2009 13:49:57] <baffle> rocket: I've done something simmilar like your patch on objectIdsAll a few other places as well, to ignore the objects..
[26-May-2009 13:52:13] <rocket> baffle: then this is what I would try
[26-May-2009 13:52:23] <rocket> baffle: obviously take a backup of the system first
[26-May-2009 13:52:47] <baffle> Backup shmackup
[26-May-2009 13:53:39] <rmatte> I notice some new zFileSystemMapIgnoreTypes that were added...
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> other
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> ram
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> virtualMemory
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> removableDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:41] <rmatte> floppyDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:42] <rmatte> compactDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:44] <rmatte> ramDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:46] <rmatte> flashMemory
[26-May-2009 13:53:48] <rmatte> networkDisk
[26-May-2009 13:53:56] <rmatte> were these automatically ignored before and just not listed?
[26-May-2009 13:54:44] <baffle> Not sure.
[26-May-2009 13:55:13] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226564 <- Same for this I guess.
[26-May-2009 13:57:20] <baffle> rocket: Are you able to cook up something for this as well?
[26-May-2009 13:58:23] <rocket> baffle: let me see
[26-May-2009 14:00:39] <rocket> try this
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> def getPrimaryPath(self, fromNode=None):
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> Return the primary path of this object by following __primary_parent__
[26-May-2009 14:00:40] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:00:43] <rocket> ppath = []
[26-May-2009 14:00:45] <rocket> obj = aq_base(self)
[26-May-2009 14:00:48] <rocket> while True:
[26-May-2009 14:00:50] <rocket> if hasattr(obj,'id'):
[26-May-2009 14:00:53] <rocket> ppath.append(obj.id)
[26-May-2009 14:00:55] <rocket> parent = getattr(obj, "__primary_parent__", None)
[26-May-2009 14:00:58] <rocket> if parent is None: break
[26-May-2009 14:01:00] <rocket> obj = parent
[26-May-2009 14:01:03] <rocket> ppath.reverse()
[26-May-2009 14:01:05] <rocket> basepath = getattr(obj, "zPrimaryBasePath", [])
[26-May-2009 14:01:08] <rocket> for i in range(len(basepath)-1,-1,-1): ppath.insert(0,basepath[i])
[26-May-2009 14:01:10] <rocket> try:
[26-May-2009 14:01:13] <rocket> idx = ppath.index(fromNode)
[26-May-2009 14:01:15] <rocket> ppath = ppath[idx+1:]
[26-May-2009 14:01:18] <rocket> except ValueError: pass
[26-May-2009 14:01:20] <rocket> return tuple(ppath)
[26-May-2009 14:02:00] <rocket> anyway baffle I would try getting a clean dump .. saving it to a file
[26-May-2009 14:02:18] <rocket> baffle: then run mkzeoinstance.py to reinitialize the zeodb
[26-May-2009 14:02:33] <rocket> baffle: then run zenimport and import the file
[26-May-2009 14:02:54] <rocket> baffle: there probably is an easier way to do this though .. but I think it should work
[26-May-2009 14:03:15] <rocket> baffle: again I havent tested this method at all .. so I am just feeling my way though at the moment
[26-May-2009 14:05:36] <baffle> rocket: Trying out now.
[26-May-2009 14:05:48] <rocket> baffle: that code might not work right
[26-May-2009 14:05:54] <rocket> baffle: this might work better
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> def getPrimaryPath(self, fromNode=None):
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> Return the primary path of this object by following __primary_parent__
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> """
[26-May-2009 14:05:59] <rocket> ppath = []
[26-May-2009 14:06:01] <rocket> obj = aq_base(self)
[26-May-2009 14:06:04] <rocket> while True:
[26-May-2009 14:06:06] <rocket> if not hasattr(obj,'id'): break
[26-May-2009 14:06:09] <rocket> ppath.append(obj.id)
[26-May-2009 14:06:11] <rocket> parent = getattr(obj, "__primary_parent__", None)
[26-May-2009 14:06:14] <rocket> if parent is None: break
[26-May-2009 14:06:16] <rocket> obj = parent
[26-May-2009 14:06:19] <rocket> ppath.reverse()
[26-May-2009 14:06:21] <rocket> basepath = getattr(obj, "zPrimaryBasePath", [])
[26-May-2009 14:06:24] <rocket> for i in range(len(basepath)-1,-1,-1): ppath.insert(0,basepath[i])
[26-May-2009 14:06:26] <rocket> try:
[26-May-2009 14:06:29] <rocket> idx = ppath.index(fromNode)
[26-May-2009 14:06:31] <rocket> ppath = ppath[idx+1:]
[26-May-2009 14:06:34] <rocket> except ValueError: pass
[26-May-2009 14:06:36] <rocket> return tuple(ppath)
[26-May-2009 14:07:26] <baffle> ok, aborting.
[26-May-2009 14:10:55] <baffle> Dumping..
[26-May-2009 14:11:07] <baffle> 1/3 done
[26-May-2009 14:14:25] <baffle> Oh, it passed the point it has crashed at before.
[26-May-2009 14:18:41] <baffle> Oh, a new one.. Somewhat different..
[26-May-2009 14:19:18] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226590
[26-May-2009 14:21:01] <rocket> baffle: bah! I bet my second patch has a bug in it that caused the recursion issue
[26-May-2009 14:22:48] <baffle> rocket: Probably.. But strange that the recursion bug then didn't trigger before.. The DB dump is now 82M vs 32M before.
[26-May-2009 14:23:25] <rocket> baffle: want to try my previous iteration of that bug fix?
[26-May-2009 14:23:36] <rocket> baffle: maybe that was more correct than I thought
[26-May-2009 14:23:58] <baffle> rocket: Sure.
[26-May-2009 14:25:05] <baffle> Dumping...
[26-May-2009 14:25:14] <rocket> baffle: or perhaps its a bug in something you had changed in your code
[26-May-2009 14:25:25] <rocket> baffle: not sure ..
[26-May-2009 14:35:56] <baffle> rocket: The patches are something like the first patch you had before.
[26-May-2009 14:36:20] <baffle> rocket: Hmm, the dump is running, but the filesize is not growing.
[26-May-2009 14:37:12] <baffle> rocket: And 99% CPU. Maybe we created a nice little loop?
[26-May-2009 14:37:22] <rocket> baffle: probably did ... :/
[26-May-2009 14:38:00] <baffle> Yeah, no movements in the file.
[26-May-2009 14:38:31] <baffle> rocket: Last lines are:
[26-May-2009 14:38:31] <baffle> <tomany id='instances'>
[26-May-2009 14:38:32] <baffle> <link objid='/zport/dmd
[26-May-2009 14:43:10] <baffle> rocket: Ideas?
[26-May-2009 14:43:19] <rocket> searching at the moment ..
[26-May-2009 14:46:21] <baffle> rocket: Ctrl-C in zendump gave this: http://paste2.org/p/226618
[26-May-2009 14:49:56] <rocket> baffle: so its stuck in the while true there ..
[26-May-2009 14:52:47] <rocket> baffle: revert that second patch .. I am going to try something else ..
[26-May-2009 14:54:30] <rocket> baffle: quick question .. have you ever run zenchkrels?
[26-May-2009 14:55:36] <rocket> try a zenchkrels -r after backing things up
[26-May-2009 14:56:40] <baffle> zenchkrels?
[26-May-2009 14:57:41] <rocket> it checks and fixes the relations in the database
[26-May-2009 15:08:06] <baffle> rocket: Yay... http://paste2.org/p/226633 -- But the old xscf devices were under this group: /zport/dmd/Groups/Customers/Siemens Medical Services - CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:08:24] <baffle> Maybe I shouldn't post customer names here.
[26-May-2009 15:09:25] <rocket> baffle: so you were able to clean them up?
[26-May-2009 15:09:33] <baffle> rocket: Yay, just navigating to that Group makes ZenOss crash too.
[26-May-2009 15:09:37] <venturaville> anyone know how to debug why zenoss will not load a modeler plugin from a zenpack?
[26-May-2009 15:09:38] <baffle> (In the web gui)
[26-May-2009 15:09:58] <baffle> venturaville: Looked at log/zenmodeller.log?
[26-May-2009 15:10:10] <baffle> rocket: No, crashed with the error I pasted..
[26-May-2009 15:10:15] <venturaville> root@emon8snc1:/opt/zenoss/zenoss/log$ ls -l zenmodeler.log
[26-May-2009 15:10:15] <venturaville> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 0 May 26 13:25 zenmodeler.log
[26-May-2009 15:10:26] <venturaville> zilch
[26-May-2009 15:10:56] <venturaville> the collector plugin is setup on the group and the device, and manually running it with zenmodeler doesn't show it up in the plugins list
[26-May-2009 15:12:30] <rocket> baffle: ok then .. lets see if we can try another thing
[26-May-2009 15:13:33] <venturaville> zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap
[26-May-2009 15:13:38] <venturaville> those are all that show up on a modeling run
[26-May-2009 15:13:56] <venturaville> plugin is there too
[26-May-2009 15:13:58] <venturaville> bizarre
[26-May-2009 15:18:27] <baffle> rocket: Yay.
[26-May-2009 15:20:04] <venturaville> argh ... apparently restarting the entire zenoss stack did the trick
[26-May-2009 15:20:20] <venturaville> the zenpack loading is definitely not 100% fool proof
[26-May-2009 15:27:44] <rocket> baffle: ?
[26-May-2009 15:30:23] <baffle> rocket: Yeah?
[26-May-2009 15:31:24] <baffle> rocket: You said we should try something else, I'm all out of ideas myself.. :-/
[26-May-2009 15:31:44] <rocket> baffle: ever work in zendmd?
[26-May-2009 15:31:49] <rocket> try this for me
[26-May-2009 15:31:54] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Groups.Customers.Siemens_Medical_Services_-_CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:32:03] <rocket> basegroup.getSubDevices_recursive()
[26-May-2009 15:35:27] <baffle> rocket: Hmm, didn't work with _, how should I escape the whitespace?
[26-May-2009 15:36:09] <baffle> Or, maybe, the "-"..
[26-May-2009 15:36:17] <venturaville> more likely the -
[26-May-2009 15:36:17] <rocket> try -
[26-May-2009 15:36:39] <rocket> dmd.Groups.Groups.Customers.Siemens-Medical-Services---CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:37:07] <baffle> Hmm, no..
[26-May-2009 15:37:37] <rocket> oops one too many groups
[26-May-2009 15:37:49] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Customers.Siemens-Medical-Services---CAPIO
[26-May-2009 15:38:26] <baffle> "AttributeError: Siemens".. So the "-" is not it..
[26-May-2009 15:38:40] <rocket> try the underscore again
[26-May-2009 15:38:49] <rocket> but drop the duplicate groups
[26-May-2009 15:39:37] <baffle> "AttributeError: Siemens_Medical_Services_"
[26-May-2009 15:43:21] <rocket> ok try this then
[26-May-2009 15:43:23] <rocket> basegroup = dmd.Groups.Customers
[26-May-2009 15:45:16] <rocket> bah .. not what I am looking for ..
[26-May-2009 15:46:25] <baffle> rocket: And that fails with http://paste2.org/p/226663
[26-May-2009 15:51:07] <rocket> baffle: know which devices are in that group?
[26-May-2009 15:51:38] <rocket> actually you might be able to do this on the webpage
[26-May-2009 15:51:45] <venturaville> g.getSubOrganizers()
[26-May-2009 15:51:49] <venturaville> where:
[26-May-2009 15:51:58] <venturaville> g = dmd.Groups.Customers
[26-May-2009 15:52:06] <rocket> venturaville: thats what I was looking for
[26-May-2009 15:52:18] <rocket> but easier still from the web page can you do
[26-May-2009 15:52:30] <rocket> http://server:8080/zport/dmd/Groups/manage
[26-May-2009 15:53:22] <baffle> rocket: I got the same idea as well. But clicking "Devices" under the group makes ZenOss barf..
[26-May-2009 15:53:40] <baffle> rocket: http://paste2.org/p/226676
[26-May-2009 15:53:45] <rocket> baffle: you might have to delete the group ..
[26-May-2009 15:53:52] <rocket> baffle: and then add the devices back into it
[26-May-2009 15:54:45] <baffle> Done.
[26-May-2009 15:55:26] <baffle> I'll check relations again.
[26-May-2009 15:55:36] <venturaville> zenoss filesystem modeler is ticking me off
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=6225395712 usedBlocks=4233846728 snmpindex=5 mount=nbabig
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=16777216 usedBlocks=2819092 snmpindex=7 mount=vol0
[26-May-2009 15:55:39] <venturaville> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:NetAppFileSystemMap: totalBlocks=14608760832 usedBlocks=11582621376 snmpindex=9 mount=bigdot
[26-May-2009 15:55:55] <venturaville> all present in the modeler, ... all that I get on filesystems page is mount and total bytes
[26-May-2009 15:56:18] <baffle> venturaville: I have simmilar problems with some NetApps as well. Irritating.
[26-May-2009 15:56:21] <venturaville> (trying to combine the various netapp plugins into one
[26-May-2009 15:56:33] <venturaville> the data is there, the filesystem modeler just won't take it
[26-May-2009 15:57:08] <venturaville> they also dropped availBlocks from the filesystem modeler which is annoying
[26-May-2009 15:57:21] <venturaville> it broke some zenpacks out there
[26-May-2009 15:57:45] <rocket> baffle: I will have to run soon .. you might find issues under the network groups too with this stuff .. I have had to drop the base network and just remodel etc to fix stuff
[26-May-2009 15:59:22] <baffle> rocket: Thanks a lot for your help anyway.
[26-May-2009 15:59:48] <baffle> Gah. Does anyone really use the software products? Doesn't it just slow things down?
[26-May-2009 16:00:27] <rocket> baffle: software products might be another area to drop and re-add too
[26-May-2009 16:00:51] <rocket> baffle: at least you have an idea what to do to fix it with the chkrels script pointing you the right way
[26-May-2009 16:01:27] <rocket> baffle: you shouldnt be having this much trouble but the underlying relationship model is a bit touchy and needs to be reworked eventually in my opinion
[26-May-2009 16:02:32] <venturaville> rocket: amen to that
[26-May-2009 16:03:37] <rocket> anyway I am outta here .. and baffle for future reference .. load all zenpacks on a test machine before they go into production
[26-May-2009 16:03:47] <baffle> rocket: Heh.
[26-May-2009 16:05:12] <baffle> rocket: The best part is that this has been patched around since the first ZenOss installation we had aaaaages ago.
[26-May-2009 16:13:36] <aburgel> hi, i'm having some issues with zenstatus... its connecting to services that i have explicitly set it to not monitor
[26-May-2009 16:13:42] <aburgel> with zenoss 2.4.1
[26-May-2009 16:15:38] <aburgel> it seems like if you set a monitor=true at the service level, but then at the device level, if you set monitor=false for that service, then at midnight, the device settings get overridden
[26-May-2009 16:15:41] <aburgel> is that supposed to happen?
[26-May-2009 16:22:39] <venturaville> so I got the combined netapp zenpack working at least as well as the previous 3 separately
[26-May-2009 16:23:07] <venturaville> the filesystem graphs are accurate, but the filesystem view page shows the wrong numbers for used and avail bytes
[26-May-2009 16:23:40] <venturaville> maybe someone who understands Zen's built in filesystem modeler and can figure out why it is getting switched around in there
[26-May-2009 16:23:47] <venturaville> could take a look?
[26-May-2009 16:23:50] <venturaville> if I send it out
[26-May-2009 16:24:49] <venturaville> mrayzenoss?
[26-May-2009 16:27:11] <mrayzenoss_> I'm probably not the one to debug it, but I know there are several NetApp users
[26-May-2009 16:27:16] mrayzenoss_ is now known as mrayzenoss
[26-May-2009 16:27:34] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: sending it to you in a second
[26-May-2009 16:27:59] <mrayzenoss> so if you have something close to working, perhaps posting it on the ZenPacks forum looking for testers/fixers
[26-May-2009 16:36:34] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: will that list take a large plugin as an attachment?
[26-May-2009 16:36:45] <mrayzenoss> I don't think so
[26-May-2009 16:36:54] <mrayzenoss> external URL might be preferrable
[26-May-2009 16:37:11] <mrayzenoss> or you can post it on the Trac wiki as an attachement
[26-May-2009 16:39:04] <venturaville> 73KB
[26-May-2009 16:39:20] <venturaville> I'll try it and see if it bounces :-)
[26-May-2009 16:41:51] <venturaville> I ran into a snafu with the hp blade chassis that I have to fix before I send that one out
[26-May-2009 16:48:20] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: sent
[26-May-2009 17:10:04] <mrayzenoss> venturaville: looks like the forums dropped the attachment http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9875
[26-May-2009 17:10:10] <mrayzenoss> I'll put up a wiki page with it
[26-May-2009 17:12:08] <venturaville> thanks
[26-May-2009 17:27:43] <mrayzenoss> trac-zenpacks/wiki/ZenPackscommunityNetApp
[26-May-2009 17:28:19] <mrayzenoss> updated the forum post as well
[26-May-2009 18:29:40] <baffle> Is there a good clear example of a ZenPack with a proper modeller + new ZenOss views somewhere?
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[27-May-2009 03:59:11] <Dieterbe> Hi, everytime I try to register @ http://www.zenoss.com/join_form and submit the form I get to see the clear html output for the page . and it says (among others):
[27-May-2009 03:59:14] <Dieterbe> <div>We were unable to send your password to your email address: (-3, 'Temporary failure in name resolution')</div>
[27-May-2009 03:59:29] <Dieterbe> even though my address is correct (i tried with my personal, and work one)
[27-May-2009 04:04:15] <Appiah> sounds to me like zenoss.com got some issus then
[27-May-2009 04:04:29] <Appiah> I'm having problems just getting to the site
[27-May-2009 04:04:49] <Appiah> So I'm betting you're not doing anything wrong Dieterbe
[27-May-2009 04:06:06] <Dieterbe> Yeah I'm pretty sure it's not me . just wanted to inform the guys that there is a problem
[27-May-2009 05:15:59] <pascalou3> hi here
[27-May-2009 05:16:23] Weetos is now known as Weetos_[Lunch]
[27-May-2009 05:16:37] <pascalou3> i try to scan the network , and i have almost a device per ip in the first subnets , but still after 30 minutes scanning , i see no progress in the logs
[27-May-2009 07:01:05] Weetos_[Lunch] is now known as Weetos
[27-May-2009 09:28:52] <simprix> Can I monitor processes via zenplugin using ssh
[27-May-2009 09:48:41] <simprix> When I get a notification. The acknowledge link goes to localhost how can I change that to my actual url.
[27-May-2009 10:33:15] <etank> is there a way to get the "Free Memory" and "Paging" graphs to work on a Windows Storage Server 2003
[27-May-2009 10:36:21] <etank> i have informant-snmp installed on the box but i dont get any graphs for these two items
[27-May-2009 10:37:11] <etank> is it possible that the Storage Server version doesnt expose the information needed to build the graphs?
[27-May-2009 10:45:18] <etank> I keep getting "SNMP Informant Standard Argument = \Memory\Available KBytes ErrorMessage = The specified instance is not present. ErrorNumber ="
[27-May-2009 10:45:40] <etank> and a message just like it for "\Pages/Sec"
[27-May-2009 10:46:19] <etank> and "Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on server.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)"
[27-May-2009 10:54:02] <cain22> hello all
[27-May-2009 11:00:15] <ckoehler> hello
[27-May-2009 11:01:10] <ckoehler> what exactly does zenoss do?
[27-May-2009 11:01:16] <ckoehler> does it monitor logs?
[27-May-2009 11:01:18] <ckoehler> or processes?
[27-May-2009 11:01:38] <ckoehler> and can it be used as a log analyzer or search engine?
[27-May-2009 11:01:59] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss doesn't monitor logs specifically, but it can monitor syslog and windows event log
[27-May-2009 11:02:28] <mrayzenoss> it's more general monitoring, SNMP, SSH, WMI, processes, ports, etc.
[27-May-2009 11:02:36] <ckoehler> ah ok
[27-May-2009 11:02:59] <ckoehler> so i can't use it to, say, find out what happened to a certain email in our systems, etc
[27-May-2009 11:03:16] <mrayzenoss> not unless that email sends some sort of event
[27-May-2009 11:03:27] <mrayzenoss> the mail server may throw errors of some kind
[27-May-2009 11:03:31] <ckoehler> right
[27-May-2009 11:03:35] <ckoehler> it will be in the log file
[27-May-2009 11:03:40] <mrayzenoss> or syslog
[27-May-2009 11:04:18] <ckoehler> i am looking for some log analysis tool to deploy on a central log server. would that be zenoss?
[27-May-2009 11:04:30] <ckoehler> i have a feeling it may be more general than that
[27-May-2009 11:05:03] <rocket> ckoehler: you can pump syslog stuff to zenoss
[27-May-2009 11:05:18] <rocket> ckoehler: and then have zenoss parse the events
[27-May-2009 11:05:35] <rocket> ckoehler: but it will take some work filtering things etc
[27-May-2009 11:06:20] <ckoehler> hm so it's probably not ideal
[27-May-2009 11:06:35] <ckoehler> do you guys have any recommendations for that kinda thing?
[27-May-2009 11:06:52] <ranc0r> splunk does nice log aggregation and searching
[27-May-2009 11:07:03] <ckoehler> true, it also costs an arm and a leg
[27-May-2009 11:07:03] <rocket> ckoehler: splunk and zenoss together?
[27-May-2009 11:07:15] <ckoehler> trying to find a splunk alternative
[27-May-2009 11:07:32] <caseyh20> ls
[27-May-2009 11:07:42] <ranc0r> the community version won't work for you?
[27-May-2009 11:07:57] <mrayzenoss> I think the community version caps at 500 gigs of logs a month
[27-May-2009 11:07:57] <ckoehler> ranc0r: nope, too much data
[27-May-2009 11:08:01] <ckoehler> haha
[27-May-2009 11:08:02] <ckoehler> i wish
[27-May-2009 11:08:03] <mrayzenoss> or megs
[27-May-2009 11:08:06] <mrayzenoss> probably megs
[27-May-2009 11:08:07] <ckoehler> 500 megs a day
[27-May-2009 11:08:20] <ckoehler> and we're at a few gb easy
[27-May-2009 11:08:24] <ranc0r> ah yeah i forgot about that part
[27-May-2009 11:08:36] <ckoehler> unfortunate, we really like it
[27-May-2009 11:08:40] <ckoehler> but the cost is pretty steep
[27-May-2009 11:12:18] <ckoehler> well i see that zenoss has an event console
[27-May-2009 11:12:20] <ckoehler> that is searchable
[27-May-2009 11:12:29] <ckoehler> shouldn't that work well enough?
[27-May-2009 11:12:38] <ckoehler> btw, is there a demo install somewhere?
[27-May-2009 11:12:44] <rocket> ckoehler: if its all you need then it should be ..
[27-May-2009 11:12:59] <ckoehler> we don't need the power of splunk
[27-May-2009 11:13:08] <mrayzenoss> ckoehler: http://www.logreport.org/ ?
[27-May-2009 11:13:16] <ckoehler> just searching through a ton of logs, some (manual) cross referencing...
[27-May-2009 11:13:21] <ckoehler> ya saw that
[27-May-2009 11:13:24] <ckoehler> it looks interesting
[27-May-2009 11:13:34] <ckoehler> was looking for more actively developed project
[27-May-2009 11:13:38] <ckoehler> but that's an option
[27-May-2009 11:14:25] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I'm not really aware of an option
[27-May-2009 11:14:38] <mrayzenoss> if there was one, we'd probably want a Zenoss integration
[27-May-2009 11:14:53] <mrayzenoss> some people use Zenoss with Splunk
[27-May-2009 11:19:40] <malbon> hi all
[27-May-2009 11:20:13] <malbon> is fdeckert here? or is someone familiar with how to use his Event Views portlet?
[27-May-2009 11:22:08] <mrayzenoss> I smoke tested it
[27-May-2009 11:22:24] <mrayzenoss> I got event views on the user and groups
[27-May-2009 11:22:26] <ckoehler> mrayzenoss: thanks for the info
[27-May-2009 11:22:44] <mrayzenoss> he just sent me an update to it
[27-May-2009 11:24:19] <mrayzenoss> "fixing a bug were the portlet was never refreshing"
[27-May-2009 11:24:27] <malbon> mrayzenoss: how did you get group event views to work? they don't seem to work when ldap connected..
[27-May-2009 11:24:30] <mrayzenoss> it's in my queue, behind rocket's stuff
[27-May-2009 11:24:41] <mrayzenoss> ahh, never tried with ldap
[27-May-2009 11:24:51] <malbon> it'd be a cool tools once that is sorted.
[27-May-2009 11:25:37] <malbon> also how do people use Zenoss with splunk? is there a recipie you can point too?
[27-May-2009 11:26:45] <mrayzenoss> I think they're using event commands to push stuff into splunk
[27-May-2009 11:26:52] <mrayzenoss> I don't have anything in hand
[27-May-2009 11:27:01] <mrayzenoss> just heard that it's been done
[27-May-2009 11:27:52] <malbon> ok
[27-May-2009 11:28:22] <mrayzenoss> I'm pretty sure we've done professional services work with it
[27-May-2009 11:28:39] <malbon> next time you contact florian deckert can you ask for an 'export' option so we can export and import event views between users and groups.
[27-May-2009 11:29:04] <malbon> we are investigating it, if they like it we will contact PS and see what they have to say.
[27-May-2009 11:29:08] <mrayzenoss> malbon: that may be supported in King Crab
[27-May-2009 11:29:23] <mrayzenoss> the event console is going to integrate event views
[27-May-2009 11:29:30] <malbon> mrayzenoss: so 2.5 then
[27-May-2009 11:29:33] <mrayzenoss> at least, that's the current plan
[27-May-2009 11:30:26] <malbon> sounds good.
[27-May-2009 11:30:36] <malbon> is the current plan published?
[27-May-2009 11:32:09] <mrayzenoss> hmm... I need to get with Product Management to get some sort of "Coming in King Crab" post
[27-May-2009 11:32:50] <Serideru> anyone have any expirerence with distributed collectors with core 2.4.1?
[27-May-2009 11:33:51] <malbon> Serideru: not being silly, get a contract for enterprise or professional and get help. They will help you sort out all the issues you may find. (no I don't work for Zenoss Inc)
[27-May-2009 11:35:00] <Serideru> malbon: we have a contract for enterprise. I've got a core setup at a smaller office that I'm trying to get a distributed collector setup on.
[27-May-2009 11:37:56] <malbon> Serideru: Then engage Zenoss support
[27-May-2009 11:38:52] <Serideru> malbon: ahh... I wasn't aware that support would assist me with my core installation as well as the enterprise installation. I'll give that a try then
[27-May-2009 11:39:49] <malbon> Serideru: They may, they may not. Usually I found them very helpful with our proof of concept stuff.
[27-May-2009 11:40:06] <Serideru> malbon: cool. I'll give it a try.
[27-May-2009 12:13:10] <etank> so does anyone have Zenoss monitoring a Windows Storage Server 2003 box that is successfully getting graph data for memory?
[27-May-2009 12:16:51] <tyler79> has anyone installed on freebsd lately?
[27-May-2009 12:16:58] <tyler79> i'm having a little bit of trouble
[27-May-2009 12:20:03] <mrayzenoss> Yeah, it's not working very well with 2.4
[27-May-2009 12:20:05] <mrayzenoss> http://www.caseyhillman.com/?p=88
[27-May-2009 12:20:32] <mrayzenoss> I know perr0 and caseyh20 were working on it
[27-May-2009 12:20:49] <mrayzenoss> etank: sorry, can't help you
[27-May-2009 12:21:30] <sergeymasushko> mrayzenoss: it's working ok... just need to recompile something manually.
[27-May-2009 12:23:01] <sergeymasushko> unfortunately I do not have a chance to reproduce it and note all steps, yet...
[27-May-2009 12:30:40] <perr0> what is that?
[27-May-2009 12:31:25] <perr0> tyler79: what do you have a question on?
[27-May-2009 12:34:29] <caseyh20> what sergeymasushko said is right, I manged to get 2.4.1 installed on freebsd by manually compiling rrdtool and its dependencies. I have been workingon reproducing it and creating a detailed tutorial but I haven't had much time to work on it. I hope to have it finished by the end of the week
[27-May-2009 12:34:49] <etank> mrayzenoss: this is the only issue that im having with Zenoss right now and it this is the only server that is having this issue.
[27-May-2009 12:35:14] <mrayzenoss> etank: might be worth posting on the zenoss-windows forum
[27-May-2009 12:35:15] <etank> that is why i assume that it has to do with the way that Microsoft arched the Stoprage Server version
[27-May-2009 12:35:35] <etank> mrayzenoss: i will once the DNS issues here at work are fixed
[27-May-2009 12:35:36] <perr0> caseyh20: were you able to communicate with mysql I know this was the last hurdle you spoke of
[27-May-2009 12:35:59] <etank> and im going to ask in the demo im attending today
[27-May-2009 12:36:05] <caseyh20> yeah, that was a mistake I made, I commited out too much in the GNUmakefile lol
[27-May-2009 12:38:15] <perr0> right on
[27-May-2009 12:43:44] <tyler79> yeah, rrdtool is the thing that i had a problem with
[27-May-2009 12:43:56] <tyler79> specifically, the freetype dependancy
[27-May-2009 12:44:43] <mrayzenoss> so speaking of new dependencies that broke everything... Zope 2.11.2 is now checked into Subversion trunk
[27-May-2009 12:47:46] <caseyh20> nice
[27-May-2009 12:47:51] <caseyh20> freetype is easy to fix
[27-May-2009 12:48:13] <caseyh20> you need to edit rrddeps.sh
[27-May-2009 12:49:21] <caseyh20> to say "GNUMAKE=gmake ./configure" and "gmake" instead of "make" when it is preforming those commands for freetype
[27-May-2009 12:53:12] <malbon> mrayzenoss: does it include the latest version of ZODB?
[27-May-2009 12:53:31] <mrayzenoss> I assume so
[27-May-2009 12:53:58] <mrayzenoss> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9874
[27-May-2009 12:54:24] <malbon> hmm
[27-May-2009 12:54:43] <mrayzenoss> Ian says yes
[27-May-2009 12:54:47] <malbon> I'll check it out
Hopefully RelStorage will just work. [27-May-2009 12:56:49] <mrayzenoss> it's the omnipresent Ian
[27-May-2009 12:56:55] <__ian__> Word.
[27-May-2009 12:57:46] <malbon> __ian__: is using RelStorage on the roadmap with this latest update to Zope? (if not can I persuade you to look at it?)
[27-May-2009 12:59:17] <__ian__> It is not on the roadmap, no.
[27-May-2009 12:59:29] <__ian__> ZODB goes to 3.7, which ships with Zope 2.11
[27-May-2009 12:59:50] <malbon> shame. ok I'll give it a go, and see what falls out.
[27-May-2009 13:00:12] gutseb is now known as gutseb_1
[27-May-2009 13:00:30] <__ian__> Yeah, we're absolutely not opposed to it; sadly, dev resources are limited.
[27-May-2009 13:01:30] <malbon> __ian__: no prob, my colleague Tonino and I will have a play, if we get it working, document it and submit it through the usual support bat-channel.
[27-May-2009 13:01:47] <__ian__> RelStorage should be a pretty simple drop-in, hopefully. Let me know if you have any questions.
[27-May-2009 13:01:59] <malbon> __ian__: cool will do.
[27-May-2009 13:02:45] <malbon> anyhow got to go, it's go-home-o'clock.
[27-May-2009 13:08:22] <tyler79> i got past freetype, now glib is failing: no iconv() implementation found in C library or libiconv
[27-May-2009 13:09:55] <caseyh20> yeah, try "find /usr/local/ -name "*libiconv*"" and see what it finds
[27-May-2009 13:16:27] <tyler79> hah, i suck at irc (kept beginning message with /): /usr/local/lib/libiconv.a,la,so,so.3
[27-May-2009 13:17:26] <caseyh20> lol
[27-May-2009 13:18:05] <tyler79> so, do I need --with-libiconv=something for the configure args to glib?
[27-May-2009 13:18:18] <caseyh20> ok, so my current fix for that is to copy all those into /usr/lib/
[27-May-2009 13:19:17] <caseyh20> well the --with-libiconv= option only accepts 1 of 3 options (no/gnu/native)
[27-May-2009 13:19:31] <caseyh20> not actually the location of libiconv
[27-May-2009 13:19:44] <tyler79> k
[27-May-2009 13:19:46] <tyler79> i'll try that
[27-May-2009 13:29:27] <sergeymasushko> can someone guide me how to setup OS monitoring on cisco AS5300 device?
[27-May-2009 13:29:50] <perr0> is that a firewall
[27-May-2009 13:30:01] <tyler79>
same problem with gettext I think[27-May-2009 13:30:03] <sergeymasushko> it's a VoIP GW
[27-May-2009 13:31:38] <sergeymasushko> I get a lot of events e.g. 'Error reading value for "Voice Encapsulation (POTS) Peer: 103" on cisco01.litespan.net (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.209 is bad)' as far as I understand need to create a template for it. how can I do it?
[27-May-2009 13:32:52] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I managed to delete (afaik) all references to Xscf in ZODB last night, and I have now reverted to original .py files. I still have some problems other places, care to help out? :-)
[27-May-2009 13:34:46] <tyler79> caseyh20: do i need to copy the gettext libraries to /usr/lib also?
[27-May-2009 13:35:17] <caseyh20> yeah
[27-May-2009 13:36:50] <caseyh20> I know there is a proper way to tell it to look in a different place for the libs but I haven't had any luck, right now im trying to clean up the process
[27-May-2009 13:38:56] <caseyh20> nice, I just got it to compile on FreeBSD without having to do anything manually
[27-May-2009 13:39:27] <caseyh20> did anyone open a ticket for the FreeBSD failure to compile?
[27-May-2009 13:45:38] <perr0> you did
[27-May-2009 13:52:17] <caseyh20> http://pastebin.com/m35b26dd5 :-D
[27-May-2009 13:55:23] <perr0> ? ^
[27-May-2009 13:56:32] <caseyh20> lol, that is the install script successfully configuring, building, and installing rrdtool on freebsd and continuning on with the zenoss install
[27-May-2009 13:59:15] <tyler79> so, how did you do that?
[27-May-2009 13:59:45] <perr0> that is with the dependency that provides iconv_t? Forgot what app it is
[27-May-2009 14:01:03] <perr0> GNU libiconv
[27-May-2009 14:02:57] <perr0> (02:00:58 PM) perr0: that is with the dependency that provides iconv_t? Forgot what app it is
[27-May-2009 14:02:57] <perr0> (02:02:16 PM) perr0: GNU libiconv
[27-May-2009 14:04:08] <ventura> is there a Cisco MDS zenpack out there anywhere?
[27-May-2009 14:05:02] <rocket> baffle: issue?
[27-May-2009 14:07:38] ventura is now known as venturaville
[27-May-2009 14:07:58] <baffle> rocket: Yeah.. The user manager + some reports still don't work..
[27-May-2009 14:08:09] venturaville is now known as register
[27-May-2009 14:08:13] register is now known as venturaville
[27-May-2009 14:08:26] <rocket> tracebacks?
[27-May-2009 14:10:21] <baffle> rocket: Well, not sure, the errors come in the webgui primarily.
[27-May-2009 14:10:53] <baffle> rocket: Like this: http://paste2.org/p/228312
[27-May-2009 14:53:54] <baffle> rocket: Is there any better tracebacks somewhere?
[27-May-2009 14:54:03] <baffle> Or, well, proper tracebakcs..
[27-May-2009 14:58:19] daMaestro|isBack is now known as daMaestro
[27-May-2009 15:03:47] edwardam_ is now known as edwardam
[27-May-2009 15:20:04] <rocket> baffle: its not liking your user baffle
[27-May-2009 15:20:10] <rocket> try recreating it?
[27-May-2009 15:20:32] <rocket> that user doesnt seem to have the has_role attribute
[27-May-2009 15:31:42] <baffle> rocket: Strange..
[27-May-2009 15:31:50] <baffle> rocket: That's the one I'm logged in as.
[27-May-2009 15:35:51] <baffle> rocket: Nopes, that is not it. I get the same error when using "admin".
[27-May-2009 15:36:41] <rocket> baffle: check the log files to see if there are any more tracebacks
[27-May-2009 15:36:59] <baffle> rocket: Wich log would these go into?
[27-May-2009 15:52:16] <baffle> Is it normal for zenhun to have 100% cpu usage all the time?
[27-May-2009 15:52:19] <baffle> zenhub
[27-May-2009 15:57:44] edwardam is now known as edwardam|AFK
[27-May-2009 15:58:18] <pupmini> afternoon, i have a question about some of the zenoss deamons if anyone has a moment
[27-May-2009 15:58:37] <mrayzenoss> baffle: not really
[27-May-2009 15:58:41] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: sure
[27-May-2009 15:59:36] <pupmini> so all of the deamons have been running no problem for a couple days, and out of the blue, i had zenping, zensyslog and zentrap die on me earlier today
[27-May-2009 16:00:09] <pupmini> cant seem to get the up again
[27-May-2009 16:01:00] <pupmini> i looked in the log files but there doesnt seem to be any indication of any activity of anything
[27-May-2009 16:01:31] <sergeymasushko> try to restart zenhub and then start the daemons again
[27-May-2009 16:03:34] <pupmini> nope
[27-May-2009 16:03:37] <pupmini> didnt work
[27-May-2009 16:03:47] <mrayzenoss> version?
[27-May-2009 16:03:51] <pupmini> newest
[27-May-2009 16:03:55] <pupmini> 2.04 i think
[27-May-2009 16:04:01] <mrayzenoss> 2.4.1 is the newest
[27-May-2009 16:04:26] <mrayzenoss> not that they should be crashing
[27-May-2009 16:04:28] <pupmini> ya that one
[27-May-2009 16:04:29] <mrayzenoss> with any version
[27-May-2009 16:04:34] <pupmini> haha ya
[27-May-2009 16:05:24] <pupmini> of all of them to crash, one of them had to be the syslog one, go figure
[27-May-2009 16:06:47] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Have you encountered any common causes of this high CPU usage?
[27-May-2009 16:06:49] <mrayzenoss> so zensyslog is down right?
[27-May-2009 16:06:55] <pupmini> ya it is
[27-May-2009 16:07:05] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: try running "zensyslog run -v10"
[27-May-2009 16:07:05] <pupmini> zensyslog, zenping and zentrap
[27-May-2009 16:07:34] <mrayzenoss> baffle: what version were you upgrading to?
[27-May-2009 16:07:54] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It's running 2.4.1 now.
[27-May-2009 16:08:12] <mrayzenoss> ok, so that's good. 500ish devices right?
[27-May-2009 16:08:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I think I manged to get rid of all the XscfDevice-references.
[27-May-2009 16:08:28] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Mmm, I think I might have a bit less.
[27-May-2009 16:08:30] <mrayzenoss> yeah, big thanks rocket
[27-May-2009 16:10:07] <mrayzenoss> baffle: take a look at your $ZENHOME/etc/zenhubworker.conf
[27-May-2009 16:10:16] <mrayzenoss> and bump it to 2 workers
[27-May-2009 16:10:41] <baffle> zenhubworker.conf doesn't exist.
[27-May-2009 16:10:54] <baffle> Should I genconf?
[27-May-2009 16:12:14] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Don't really see anything in that config that looks like number of workers..
[27-May-2009 16:12:16] <mrayzenoss> I'm trying to track down some documentation on it
[27-May-2009 16:12:36] <mrayzenoss> I think it was added in 2.3.3
[27-May-2009 16:13:33] <baffle> mrayzenoss: I see there is a "workers" option in zenhub.conf.
[27-May-2009 16:13:42] <baffle> "Number of worker instances to handle requests"
[27-May-2009 16:13:45] <mrayzenoss> yeah, I think that's the one
[27-May-2009 16:14:08] <mrayzenoss> bump it to 2, that should reduce the load in the zenhub
[27-May-2009 16:14:10] <baffle> Trying..
[27-May-2009 16:15:38] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Hmm, died.. Traceback..
[27-May-2009 16:16:03] <mrayzenoss> oh yeah, you don't even have to use genconf anymore with 2.4
[27-May-2009 16:16:17] <baffle> mrayzenoss: http://paste2.org/p/228468
[27-May-2009 16:16:19] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Oh.
[27-May-2009 16:16:21] <pupmini> mrayzenoss: when i try to start zensyslog run -v10 it connected to the hub, started, got collector thresholds and then started the shutdown process
[27-May-2009 16:16:24] <mrayzenoss> if you hit "edit config" on the daemons page
[27-May-2009 16:16:37] <mrayzenoss> it puts you into a config editor
[27-May-2009 16:17:11] <mrayzenoss> baffle: try restarting everything
[27-May-2009 16:17:19] <mrayzenoss> zeo and zope and zenhub
[27-May-2009 16:17:32] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: no errors?
[27-May-2009 16:18:12] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Works, I guess it didn't like "zenoss restart".
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> no errors, the only thing it kicked out that looks kinda bad is this:
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> DEBUG:zen.ZenSyslog:Sent a 'stop' event
[27-May-2009 16:18:43] <pupmini> DEBUG:zen.ZenSyslog:stop() called when not running
[27-May-2009 16:19:23] <mrayzenoss> yeah, it doesn't stay up, it just runs through a cycle
[27-May-2009 16:19:26] <mrayzenoss> nothing in the zenhub?
[27-May-2009 16:19:41] <mrayzenoss> log that is
[27-May-2009 16:19:46] <pupmini> ah
[27-May-2009 16:19:49] <pupmini> checking..
[27-May-2009 16:20:10] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Seems usage went way down..
[27-May-2009 16:20:43] <pupmini> nothing in zenhub log
[27-May-2009 16:21:20] <mrayzenoss> I think the number of workers is 1 by default, but you don't want it to exceed your number of CPUs
[27-May-2009 16:21:42] <mrayzenoss> pupmini: so if you do a zensyslog start it just runs
[27-May-2009 16:21:46] <mrayzenoss> and eventually dies?
[27-May-2009 16:22:09] <baffle> mrayzenoss: Quad Core.
[27-May-2009 16:22:15] <pupmini> it runs and dies immediatly
[27-May-2009 16:22:15] <baffle> mrayzenoss: So it should work ok.
[27-May-2009 16:22:46] <pupmini> i can send you the 15 or so lines of "debug" in a private message if you wish
[27-May-2009 16:23:04] <baffle> pupmini: Try http://paste2.org/ to post debug info.
[27-May-2009 16:23:32] <baffle> pupmini: "Fresh Paste" on the top/right side.
[27-May-2009 16:25:15] <pupmini> so...zensyslog just kicked on for no apparent reason
[27-May-2009 16:25:53] <pupmini> i remembered playing with the web user permissions and i just kicked my login from zenmanager to zenuser and it kicked on
[27-May-2009 16:27:48] <mrayzenoss> sorry gents, off to a meeting
[27-May-2009 16:28:07] <pupmini> thanks for the help
[27-May-2009 16:28:25] <mrayzenoss> did it get fixed?
[27-May-2009 16:28:31] <pupmini> ah
[27-May-2009 16:28:35] <pupmini> zensyslog is
[27-May-2009 16:28:43] <pupmini> but zenping and trap are still down
[27-May-2009 16:29:00] <pupmini> for somereason i cant be a zenmanager to start the deamons
[27-May-2009 16:29:40] <pupmini> at least that one
[27-May-2009 16:40:46] <baffle> mrayzenoss: It seems to have stabilized a bit now, they pop up to 100% cpu usage now and then tho. But not like before.
[27-May-2009 17:04:19] edwardam|AFK is now known as edwardam
[27-May-2009 17:06:07] <sergeymasushko> can somebody point me the right way: where can I found OIDs for monitoring 'propPointToPointSerial' instead of 'ethernetCsmacd' class?
[27-May-2009 18:00:01] <caseyh21> hey, anyone know what it says google maps rejected my key and but it works?
[27-May-2009 18:00:45] <caseyh21> I get a pop-up with this message http://pastebin.com/m8d551d2
[27-May-2009 18:04:50] daMaestro|isBack is now known as daMaestro
[27-May-2009 18:20:42] <perr0> does it reject it cause it doesn't match the url of your server?
[27-May-2009 18:21:08] <perr0> yep
[27-May-2009 18:21:45] <perr0> I didn't he had left
[27-May-2009 18:21:56] <perr0> see*
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[28-May-2009 02:56:13] <pascalou> hi here
[28-May-2009 02:56:20] <pascalou> any living peron around ?
[28-May-2009 03:25:08] <Maxim1> hi
[28-May-2009 03:38:42] <MaximB> hi
[28-May-2009 03:39:20] <MaximB> I'm having problems removing zenoss from my system (not that zenoss is a bad program, but I need to do something and it needs to be removed)
[28-May-2009 03:39:35] <MaximB> I get :
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> [root@mldev11 ~]# apt-get remove zenoss
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> Reading Package Lists... Done
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[28-May-2009 03:39:38] <MaximB> zenoss (2.2.3-30.el5)
[28-May-2009 03:39:39] <MaximB> zenoss-core-zenpacks (2.2.0-0)
[28-May-2009 03:39:41] <MaximB> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 removed and 8 not upgraded.
[28-May-2009 03:39:43] <MaximB> Need to get 0B of archives.
[28-May-2009 03:39:45] <MaximB> After unpacking 121MB disk space will be freed.
[28-May-2009 03:39:47] <MaximB> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
[28-May-2009 03:39:49] <MaximB> Committing changes...
[28-May-2009 03:39:51] <MaximB> Preparing ############################## [100%]
[28-May-2009 03:39:53] <MaximB> Cleaning up / removing
[28-May-2009 03:39:55] <MaximB> zenoss-core-zenpacks-2.2.0-0.i386 ############################## [100%]
[28-May-2009 03:39:57] <MaximB> Removing ZenPacks.zenoss.ApacheMonitor
[28-May-2009 03:39:59] <MaximB> WARNING:ZEO.zrpc:(3655) CW: error connecting to ('localhost', 8100): ECONNREFUSED
[28-May-2009 03:40:39] <MaximB> every zenoss pack fails to connect
[28-May-2009 03:42:22] <MaximB> how can I remove zenoss ?
[28-May-2009 03:48:29] <MaximB> damn , it seems that I needed to start zenoss services first before removing them ...
[28-May-2009 06:59:25] <Weetos> I've defined an escalate count on a custom template, and this work as expected (events are first mapped to warning and then to error when the escalate count is reached) but this gives me duplicates in the event console
[28-May-2009 07:00:02] <Weetos> I mean the warning stays as is and an error appears, instead of just one error
[28-May-2009 07:00:19] <Weetos> is that an expected result ?
[28-May-2009 07:07:29] <Weetos> I thought this would just add +1 severy level to the existing event
[28-May-2009 07:22:18] <Younger> hi, i have a router with snmp version set to v2c. so ethernetCsmacd_64 should be used instead of ethernetCsmacd. but the interface throughput graph is still drawn using ethernetCsmacd. Does any one know how to force ethernetCsmacd_64?
[28-May-2009 08:36:09] <genji0714> Hello all
[28-May-2009 08:37:24] <genji0714> does anyone have experience with snmpv3?
[28-May-2009 08:37:53] <Weetos> sorry, I don't
[28-May-2009 08:38:57] <Weetos> and the other guys seem away/busy at the mo
[28-May-2009 08:39:07] <genji0714> yea...it is a bit quiet!
[28-May-2009 08:39:39] <rocket> Weetos: I would expect what you are seeing by looking at the code
[28-May-2009 08:40:13] <rocket> Weetos: events arent really stored with the device based on the code layout ..
[28-May-2009 08:40:40] <Weetos> rocket> does it sound like it's a feature or a bug, according to you ?
[28-May-2009 08:40:57] <rocket> it could be looked at both ways
[28-May-2009 08:41:13] <rocket> I would say it kind of nice as a feature to show the event escalated
[28-May-2009 08:41:37] <rocket> as long as both events go away when the event has cleared I wouldnt really worry about it
[28-May-2009 08:42:22] <rocket> having both events will show you the times when they first appeared etc
[28-May-2009 08:42:51] <Weetos> yeah they do disappear - you're right
[28-May-2009 08:43:31] <Weetos> you made valid points here, I haven't thought of it that way
[28-May-2009 08:43:40] <Weetos> Thanks for your input
[28-May-2009 08:43:55] <rocket> no problemo ..
[28-May-2009 08:45:42] <genji0714> I have a question maybe someone can help...
[28-May-2009 08:45:55] <genji0714> About half of my switches are reporting that the SNMP agent is down
[28-May-2009 08:46:28] <genji0714> when in fact it is not...i am able to do an snmpwalk from Zenoss and the other half of the switches that have the exact same config..some even in the same net closet work just fine
[28-May-2009 08:48:32] <Weetos> bad network links or dropped packets may lead to what you're seeing, as SNMP is transported over UDP, there's no retransmission of packets when they're dropped - Have you checked the errors counters on the relevant interfaces ?
[28-May-2009 08:52:52] <genji0714> yea
[28-May-2009 08:53:00] <genji0714> the switches themselves appear OK
[28-May-2009 08:53:18] <Weetos> hmmm that's weird
[28-May-2009 08:53:42] <genji0714> yea...it is driving me crazy!
[28-May-2009 08:54:57] <genji0714> I have tried debugging zenperfsnmp...nothing in the logs...it just doesn't make sense
[28-May-2009 08:55:05] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: I sent you a Cisco MDS Zenpack
[28-May-2009 08:55:29] <Weetos> I would use tcpdump on the zenoss machine (using an appropriate filter such as 'host <switch> and udp port snmp') to see if the request get answered (and thus being ignored by zenoss) or if they stays actually unanswered
[28-May-2009 08:57:35] <genji0714> Ok, I will try that! Thank you very much
[28-May-2009 08:57:43] <genji0714>
[28-May-2009 09:00:25] <Weetos> you're welcome
[28-May-2009 09:13:47] <jb> what does the MDS zenpack do?
[28-May-2009 09:15:29] MmeNetView is now known as Jane_Curry
[28-May-2009 09:22:26] <Jane_Curry> test
[28-May-2009 09:24:54] <jb> test successful
[28-May-2009 09:25:44] <Younger> genji0714: check snmp version. I had a similar problem and it turned only SNMP v2c was enabled in my router.
[28-May-2009 09:45:52] <genji0714> <younger> snmp is all set on zenoss and the switches have snmpv3 enabled. I am able to snmpwalk them using v3 credentials.
[28-May-2009 09:46:30] <genji0714> <Weetos> the tcpdump didn't revel a whole lot...i am seeing snmp traffic back and fourth...
[28-May-2009 09:59:54] <Dieterbe> Hi, when I add a Server/Linux and have snmp working (I have cpu, memory etc graphs), shouldn't i also get network graphs for the interfaces? i tried going to the device->os->interfaces, select them and do "enable monitoring" but this does not give me graphs
[28-May-2009 10:01:52] <mrayzenoss> Greetings everyone, JP and I will be answering any questions you have
[28-May-2009 10:02:32] <Weetos> genji0714> this may mean that zenoss doesn't care what's being answered
[28-May-2009 10:03:15] <genji0714> Weetos>?? Zenoss is ignoring what the switches are responding?
[28-May-2009 10:03:30] <Weetos> genji0714> it seems ... don't know why
[28-May-2009 10:03:53] <Dieterbe> Hi, when I add a Server/Linux and have snmp working (I have cpu, memory etc graphs), shouldn't i also get network graphs for the interfaces? i tried going to the device->os->interfaces, select them and do "enable monitoring" but this does not give me graphs
[28-May-2009 10:03:55] <genji0714> Weetos> Yea....arghh zenoss zenoss zenoss....
[28-May-2009 10:04:07] <Dieterbe> @ mrayzenoss
^^[28-May-2009 10:04:40] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - yup - you should see each interface under the os tab - shouldn't need to activate monitoring
[28-May-2009 10:04:51] <genji0714> npmccallum_>About half of my switches are reporting that the SNMP agent is down. when in fact it is not...i am able to do an snmpwalk from Zenoss and the other half of the switches that have the exact same config..some even in the same net closet work just fine
[28-May-2009 10:05:02] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: Debian 5 right?
[28-May-2009 10:05:03] <Dieterbe> Jane_Curry: but i want graphs
[28-May-2009 10:05:24] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss: no, 4.0
[28-May-2009 10:06:06] <npmccallum_> genji0714: you probably don't have the right snmp community or snmp version
[28-May-2009 10:06:19] <npmccallum_> genji0714: some switches are only v1
[28-May-2009 10:06:19] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: yes you should be getting graphs for your network interfaces
[28-May-2009 10:06:22] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - you should have em - is your snmp agent configured ok? If you do an snmpwalk of the interfaces table for the device, do you get the right data?
[28-May-2009 10:06:34] <genji0714> npmccallum> I have checked the comm and snmp version
[28-May-2009 10:06:34] <Younger> mrayzenoss and JP: i have a router with snmp version set to v2c. so ethernetCsmacd_64 should be used instead of ethernetCsmacd. but the interface throughput graph is still drawn using ethernetCsmacd. Does any one know how to force ethernetCsmacd_64?
[28-May-2009 10:07:52] <mrayzenoss> Younger: you have the ethernetCsmacd_64 template bound?
[28-May-2009 10:07:52] <npmccallum_> genji0714: what happens when you go into the templates for the device, open an snmp data source and run "test" against one of the switches
[28-May-2009 10:08:04] <genji0714> npmmccallum>I am using snmpv3..and i have the exact same switch model...same IOS in the same closet that works just fine. I am able to do a snmpwalk from zenoss and it works fine on the same switch that is reporting that snmp agent is down. I have tried debugging zenperfsnmp with no luck...I am done a tcpdump to no avail...i just don't know where to turn now.
[28-May-2009 10:08:23] <genji0714> npmmccallum>let me try
[28-May-2009 10:09:18] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - another thought. When you click on an interface, what do you actually see? Nothing? Graph templates but no lines or data? Or graph otlines with values of "nan"?
[28-May-2009 10:09:30] <Dieterbe> mrayzenoss / Jane_Curry , oh i just have to click on the interface name to see the graphs. i thought they would show up under "Perf" . is there a way to just see all bytes/sec graphs for all interfaces (you know, one image with multiple graphs)
[28-May-2009 10:09:39] <Younger> mrayzenoss: By default, both ethernetCsmacd and ethernetCsmacd_64 are bound to /Devices.
[28-May-2009 10:11:08] <genji0714> npmmccallum>this is what I get....Executing command snmpwalk -c -v3 10.12.241.13 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10 against ad-a-2960-13.admin.rhnet.org Timeout: No Response from 10.12.241.13 DONE in 6 seconds
[28-May-2009 10:11:31] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - sounds like you have found the graphs then??? The interface graphs are "special" in that their templates are bound automatically based on the name of your interface (like ethernetCsmacd)
[28-May-2009 10:13:06] <Jane_Curry> Dieterbe - what you will see under the Performance tab are graphs for any other (non-component) performance templates that you have bound for the particular device
[28-May-2009 10:13:55] <Jane_Curry> Just loaded up Zenoss 2.4.1 as a fresh install - like the extra panels for creating user and device discovery...
[28-May-2009 10:14:21] <Jane_Curry> ... before I go too much further, is 2.4.2 imminent???
[28-May-2009 10:14:32] <ian_> Relatively so, yes.
[28-May-2009 10:14:51] <jplouis> Dieterbe - you might get the graph you want by creating a custom Multi-Graph report
[28-May-2009 10:15:08] <genji0714> npmmccallum>I acutally ran the same thing against one of the switches that is gathering snmp data and it timed out also....
[28-May-2009 10:16:27] <Jane_Curry> ian_ - days or a week or two (without any implied committment...)
[28-May-2009 10:16:59] <jplouis> not days
[28-May-2009 10:17:57] <Jane_Curry> Performance threshold question - I want a threshold based on an expression of SNMP MIB variables
[28-May-2009 10:17:59] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: you can watch progress on 2.4.2 here: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/report/6
[28-May-2009 10:18:19] <ian_> Yeah, as long as no commitment, hopefully by end of next week? I think.
[28-May-2009 10:18:33] <ian_> I may have made that up entirely.
[28-May-2009 10:18:40] <mrayzenoss> you did
[28-May-2009 10:19:03] <ian_> I try to put things together from the bits I glean during meetings, but rarely do I get a fair representation of reality.
[28-May-2009 10:19:06] <npmccallum_> genji0714: there is a syntax error in that command, considering that the '-c' is empty
[28-May-2009 10:19:38] <Dieterbe> thanks Jane_Curry and jplouis . what i basically want is a centralized overview of the "perf" properties, but also the bytes/sec graphs for the interfaces, so i can easily compare the amount of network traffic to cpu load for example
[28-May-2009 10:19:49] <genji0714> npmmcallum: is it something I have done...or is it a bug?
[28-May-2009 10:20:03] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: what thresholds do you need? I've gotten several new ZenPacks for custom thresholds from rocket
[28-May-2009 10:20:06] <Jane_Curry> I can create a graph based on SNMP expressions by using my own graph command but that doesn't get me an actual datapoint and I think I can only threshold on datapoints?
[28-May-2009 10:21:47] <rocket> Jane_Curry: I believe at the moment you can only threshold on datapoints as you have indicated ..
[28-May-2009 10:22:02] <Weetos> mrayzenoss> the broken map bug that appeared in 2.4.0 (see http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9714) isn't fixed in 2.4.1 and I can't seem to find a ticket about that issue - Does that mean we're only a few users experiencing that problem ?
[28-May-2009 10:22:10] <Jane_Curry> probaly simple SNMP expressions like oid1 - oid2 (or even oid1 oid2 - if I have to do it in Reverse Polish!)
[28-May-2009 10:23:56] <Jane_Curry> Has anyone managed to craft an rrd create command to create a datafile based on an expression?
[28-May-2009 10:25:05] <rocket> Jane_Curry: not an expression .. but I have a threshold that creates custom rrd files
[28-May-2009 10:26:23] <Jane_Curry> rocket - not with you there? You have a (single oid) threshold that create an rrd datafile??
[28-May-2009 10:27:26] <rocket> Jane_Curry: yes .. I have submitted it to matt .. but since it replicates some enterprise functionality I dont really want to elaborate too much until they announce it
[28-May-2009 10:27:39] <Jane_Curry> ok
[28-May-2009 10:28:05] <tyler79> does anyone know how to deal with the issue where zentrap core dums on freebsd?
[28-May-2009 10:28:10] <Jane_Curry> Matt - is there anything in the pipeline that might address thresholding on an expression??
[28-May-2009 10:28:14] <rocket> its possible to do what you want from a threshold .. but its sort of a hacked way to do it
[28-May-2009 10:28:59] <rocket> Jane_Curry: basically zenpacks need to be extended to support custom datapoint definitions using expressions in an rrdfile I think
[28-May-2009 10:29:17] <rocket> Jane_Curry: and then the thresholds can be used against that
[28-May-2009 10:29:38] <genji0714> npmccallum_: do you have any suggestions of how I could futher troubleshoot this issue?
[28-May-2009 10:29:45] <rocket> Jane_Curry: otherwise if you do it per threshold you have to make a new threshold type for every custom threshold that comes out
[28-May-2009 10:29:57] <rocket> Jane_Curry: Make sense?
[28-May-2009 10:30:10] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: nothing from Zenoss development that I'm aware of for new threshold types
[28-May-2009 10:30:11] <npmccallum_> ian_: any suggestions for genji0714 ?
[28-May-2009 10:30:31] <Jane_Curry> Yup - with you - I guess it depends on Zenoss delivering (which doesn't sound scheduled)
[28-May-2009 10:30:32] <mrayzenoss> Jane_Curry: but I'll be pushing people to use rocket's thresholds more once I get them all out
[28-May-2009 10:31:04] <mrayzenoss> I'm putting together a post to announce the planned King Crab features sometime soon
[28-May-2009 10:31:13] <Jane_Curry> matt - are rocket's ZenPacks available now or still in the pipeline??
[28-May-2009 10:31:21] <mrayzenoss> his Point Threshold is out
[28-May-2009 10:31:26] <mrayzenoss> and only works with 2.4
[28-May-2009 10:31:40] <mrayzenoss> I've got the Predictive Threshold and Range
[28-May-2009 10:31:42] <rocket> all thresholds only work with 2.4
[28-May-2009 10:31:49] <Jane_Curry> ok - got that - what ZenPack am I looking for
[28-May-2009 10:31:54] <mrayzenoss> I've just been swamped so far, good response on the ZenPack contest so far
[28-May-2009 10:31:56] <rocket> Jane_Curry: predictive is the one I was referring to
[28-May-2009 10:32:02] <ian_> npmccallum_: Actually I missed most of the conversation, as I lost power. So, no.
[28-May-2009 10:32:21] <rocket> Jane_Curry: it creates the predictive rrd for use in that threshold
[28-May-2009 10:32:23] <npmccallum_> ian_: its mostly about snmpv3, which I have no experience with
[28-May-2009 10:32:33] <ian_> npmccallum_: me either.
[28-May-2009 10:32:38] <ian_> jplouis?
[28-May-2009 10:32:39] <npmccallum_>
[28-May-2009 10:34:32] <genji0714> npmmccallum_:
it is the weirdest thing! If it didn't work on anything it wouldn't be so frustrating...but because it works on some of the switches it is driving me nuts! I appreciate your help though! [28-May-2009 10:34:57] <Jane_Curry> Is this the "PointThreshold" ZenPack that we are referring to??
[28-May-2009 10:35:30] <rocket> Jane_Curry: the Point threshold sets off an alert at a value
[28-May-2009 10:35:30] <jplouis> I didn't quite understand the snmpv3 problem. A ticket or forum post may be easier to follow.
[28-May-2009 10:35:45] <rocket> Jane_Curry: eg 4.0 just that single value
[28-May-2009 10:35:59] <genji0714> jplous: I do have a forum post...not many hits
[28-May-2009 10:36:12] <Jane_Curry> rocket - is this the correct ZenPack though that you and Matt have been referring to?
[28-May-2009 10:36:28] <rocket> Jane_Curry: Predictive threshold .. in the pipeline yet
[28-May-2009 10:36:47] <jplouis> genji0714 - link?
[28-May-2009 10:37:06] <genji0714> where is the 'test' on the data sources pulling in the snmpwalk command info from?
[28-May-2009 10:37:32] <Jane_Curry> ok - gotcha - I'll look out for the predictive threshold one
[28-May-2009 10:37:32] <genji0714> jploous:http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9884
[28-May-2009 10:41:45] <npmccallum_> genji0714: in my experience, "works sometimes" == configuration issue
[28-May-2009 10:42:56] <genji0714> npmmccallum_: yea...I went down that road..I made sure that Zenoss was configured right...i have the zproperties set on the switch container so it affects all the switches...i then reconfigured one of the troublesome switches to no avail....
[28-May-2009 10:43:25] <npmccallum_> genji0714: are you sure the snmp settings aren't overridden on the devices themselves?
[28-May-2009 10:44:37] <genji0714> npmccallum_: overridden??
[28-May-2009 10:45:08] <genji0714> npmccallum_: i can snmpwalk them with the settings I have put in Zenoss so I am assuming that everything is good....all show commands on the switch indicate it is all good
[28-May-2009 10:45:15] <Jane_Curry> genji0714 - is there anything in the event console or the logs? If the problem is with the OID instance, this often shows up in the event console as a debud severity (ie normally hidden)
[28-May-2009 10:45:29] <npmccallum_> genji0714: navigate to the device, from the page menu choose More -> zProperties
[28-May-2009 10:45:51] <genji0714> OK
[28-May-2009 10:45:58] <genji0714> npmccallum_:OK
[28-May-2009 10:48:01] <jplouis> genji0714 - Are you asking for the test command code that generates the snmpwalk on the datasource?
[28-May-2009 10:48:14] <npmccallum_> genji0714: check your snmp community, etc
[28-May-2009 10:48:25] <genji0714> npmccallum_: yea the settings are correct...
[28-May-2009 10:48:45] <npmccallum_> genji0714: idk then
[28-May-2009 10:49:09] <genji0714> jplouis: the test command...where does it pull its info to decided with command switches to use ---> Ie. -c -v3?
[28-May-2009 10:49:33] <jplouis> genji0714 - it is in python code, not configurable
[28-May-2009 10:49:44] <genji0714> jplouis: I dunno....I am really grasping for straws at this point...
[28-May-2009 10:49:58] <genji0714> i need to get monitoring for my switches up and going....
[28-May-2009 10:50:04] <jplouis> genji0714 - it is in BasicDataSource.py
[28-May-2009 10:50:19] <genji0714> jplouis: OK, thanks
[28-May-2009 10:50:26] <jplouis> "snmpwalk -c%(zSnmpCommunity)s "
[28-May-2009 10:50:26] <jplouis> "-%(zSnmpVer)s %(manageIp)s %(oid)s"
[28-May-2009 10:50:43] <jplouis> it generates it from the zProperties on the Device
[28-May-2009 10:51:05] <Jane_Curry> genji0714 - anything in zenhub.log or events.log?
[28-May-2009 10:51:13] <npmccallum_> genji0714: you'll notice that in the "test against device" results you posted above, the '-c' was *not* followed by a community string
[28-May-2009 10:51:24] <genji0714> jplouis: oh...here is another weird thing...when I model the switch that reports 'snmp agent down' it pulls in snmp data such as the snpm desc.....
[28-May-2009 10:51:39] <npmccallum_> genji0714: that would be my guess, that zSnmpCommunity is not being filled in for some reason
[28-May-2009 10:51:45] <genji0714> jplouis:yea....which makes sense I have no snmp comm strings because I am using snmpv3
[28-May-2009 10:52:32] <npmccallum_> genji0714: ok, I unfortunately know little about snmpv3...
[28-May-2009 10:52:42] <npmccallum_> most of our customers find v3 too much of a pain to implement
[28-May-2009 10:53:05] <jplouis> genji0714 - did you try an snmp get like the forum suggested? The actual collection uses get
[28-May-2009 10:53:05] <genji0714> npmccallum_> it is fully supported though correct?
[28-May-2009 10:53:13] <Jane_Curry> But there are those customers who insist on it - it's not that hard when you've done one!
[28-May-2009 10:53:34] <genji0714> jplouis> I have not yet done an snmpget....
[28-May-2009 10:53:36] <Jane_Curry> I have used SNMP V3 successfully from Zenoss to net-snmp agents
[28-May-2009 10:53:40] <npmccallum_> genji0714: yes, it is fully supported, you're just asking the wrong guy
[28-May-2009 10:54:02] <npmccallum_> genji0714: I should point out that we do not yet support snmpv3 traps
[28-May-2009 10:54:04] <genji0714> npmccallum_:
[28-May-2009 10:54:33] <genji0714> npmccallum_: yea I read that some where which is all good....I dont't use traps..(yet)
[28-May-2009 10:56:06] <jmp242> not really related to SNMPv3, but I have occasionally on an overloaded Windows desktop box seen SNMP down alerts in Zenoss, but they go away when the load eases up.
[28-May-2009 10:56:22] <jmp242> I don't suppose there's a load difference in your switched genji0714
[28-May-2009 10:56:51] <genji0714> jmp242: no.
[28-May-2009 10:57:35] <jmp242> do the switch logs (if there are any) on the failing switches show anything useful
[28-May-2009 10:57:40] <jmp242> like an auth failure or anything
[28-May-2009 10:57:43] <genji0714> no
[28-May-2009 10:58:01] <genji0714> i have even done debug commands on the switch to see the traffic coming in
[28-May-2009 10:59:07] <Jane_Curry> ... and the traffic arrives at the switch??? Didi the TCPDUMP on your Zenoss system show a response coming back?
[28-May-2009 10:59:37] <genji0714> yrea
[28-May-2009 10:59:39] <genji0714> yea..
[28-May-2009 10:59:49] <genji0714> as far as I can tell
[28-May-2009 11:00:32] <jmp242> you're not running any firewall on the zenoss box are you?
[28-May-2009 11:00:35] <Jane_Curry> Can you configure a switch so that it DOES send TRAPs (V1 or V2) to the Zenoss system - if the problem is authentication then you should get an authentication TRAP
[28-May-2009 11:01:45] <tyler79> zentrap is core dumping for me on freebsd 7.2. Here's the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/d6f53c6a9
[28-May-2009 11:01:51] <tyler79> can anyone take a look?
[28-May-2009 11:02:02] <genji0714> Jane_Curry: I will try that
[28-May-2009 11:02:23] <genji0714> jmp242: no
[28-May-2009 11:03:00] <genji0714> i just did a successful snmpget
[28-May-2009 11:04:37] <genji0714> so I am looking at the tcpdump file and it just doesn't give me any info..maybe I am missing something...there is packets going back and fourth also some snmpgetnetxt request...no sure what I am looking for
[28-May-2009 11:07:18] <tyler79> actually, I get a similar core dump when I try to add a device: http://pastebin.com/m3abbf5c9
[28-May-2009 11:10:36] <mrayzenoss> tyler79: I'm not sure what the issue is, perhaps some of the other FreeBSD users might chime in? perr0, caseyh or sergey if you see them
[28-May-2009 11:12:11] <Jane_Curry> tyler79 - sorry - looked at you dumps - no idea
[28-May-2009 11:12:45] <Jane_Curry> Another gory ZenPack question....
[28-May-2009 11:13:31] <Jane_Curry> If I have written my own data collector modeler plugin, I can get table data from various different MIB tables..
[28-May-2009 11:14:12] <Jane_Curry> .. how do I cope with mutiple data tables that have DIFFERENT instance indexes?
[28-May-2009 11:15:02] <Jane_Curry> As far as I know, i can only pass back 1 set of snmpindexes and that is what will then be used for performance data
[28-May-2009 11:15:47] <Jane_Curry> I want some performance graphs to get data from instances 1 nd 2, and some graphs to use instances 3 and 4
[28-May-2009 11:18:41] <Jane_Curry> The other way to look at this would be...
[28-May-2009 11:19:40] <Jane_Curry> How to write skins files for a performance graph that uses a different snmpindex than what is on the object - say snmpindex+2 ???
[28-May-2009 11:24:24] <Jane_Curry> Is anyone thyere??? No ideas??
[28-May-2009 11:26:17] <npmccallum_> Jane_Curry: probably the easiest way is to write a zencommand
[28-May-2009 11:32:20] <ganiman> hello
[28-May-2009 11:33:26] <venturaville> anyone have a really large infrastructure that might have some tuning tips?
[28-May-2009 11:34:27] <ganiman> what is large? lol
[28-May-2009 11:34:58] <venturaville> thousands of devices, and 100Ks of data points
[28-May-2009 11:35:09] <ganiman> we use zenoss to monitor 2500+ devices
[28-May-2009 11:35:10] <npmccallum_> venturaville: "tuning tips" don't really mean anything
[28-May-2009 11:35:20] <mrayzenoss> there are some tips on these threads: http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=6230 http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?p=21843
[28-May-2009 11:35:41] <mrayzenoss> ganiman: Largest Core install on 1 box I know of is 8500 devices
[28-May-2009 11:35:52] <ganiman> we use many boxes
[28-May-2009 11:36:08] <npmccallum_> venturaville: what problems are you having?
[28-May-2009 11:36:26] <npmccallum_> (if you aren't having any, you probably don't need any tuning advice)
[28-May-2009 11:36:30] <venturaville> not entirely certain, although zenhub is eating up most of the CPU time
[28-May-2009 11:36:37] Joao is now known as JoaoS
[28-May-2009 11:36:38] <venturaville> have 3 workers running now
[28-May-2009 11:37:16] <venturaville> that 2nd link looked interesting
[28-May-2009 11:37:29] <venturaville> but most of our disk I/O goes to a SAN anyway
[28-May-2009 11:37:41] <npmccallum_> what is your load?
[28-May-2009 11:38:49] <ganiman> can someone help me with an rrdtool graph command? I'd like to do something similar to how zenoss draws the threshold lines on graphs. If the threshold line has a far greater value than other lines being drawn, I don't want the threshold line to stretch my graph out - I'd rather just not draw it, and this is the behavior graphs generated in zenoss have.
[28-May-2009 11:39:21] <venturaville> load average is not that informative (it has 4 cores)
[28-May-2009 11:39:44] <venturaville> but it tourinley spikes around 80% CPU utilization
[28-May-2009 11:39:52] <venturaville> tourinley -> routinely
[28-May-2009 11:40:20] <npmccallum_> is zenhub using all your CPU or is it mostly IO Wait?
[28-May-2009 11:40:22] <venturaville> snmp collection time has climbed to about 140 seconds on average and spikes around 4 minutes
[28-May-2009 11:41:07] <venturaville> CPU wait averages about 2.3%
[28-May-2009 11:41:21] <npmccallum_> not cpu wait, iowait
[28-May-2009 11:41:28] <venturaville> was getting to that :-)
[28-May-2009 11:41:33] <venturaville> had to wait on iostat to run
[28-May-2009 11:41:51] <npmccallum_> what does top say?
[28-May-2009 11:41:57] <venturaville> await is about 10.63 on the data disks
[28-May-2009 11:42:34] <venturaville> top's wait is CPU wait........
[28-May-2009 11:42:48] <venturaville> iostat iowait% is about 0.5 - 1
[28-May-2009 11:43:03] <npmccallum_> ok, so it is likely not a disk bottleneck
[28-May-2009 11:43:25] <venturaville> doesn't look it, though I suppose it could be spiking in there somewhere
[28-May-2009 11:49:00] <mrayzenoss> Thanks for showing up everyone, I'll have the transcript up later this afternoon
[28-May-2009 11:49:24] <kisielk> question about tcp/ip service monitoring. For some services like rsync and SSH, I end up with a whole bunch of crap in the syslog. eg "Did not receive identification string from 10.3.0.68"
[28-May-2009 11:49:39] <kisielk> any way to work around that while still monitoring the services? I don't recall having this problem when I ran Nagios
[28-May-2009 11:50:02] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: map the events to get dropped
[28-May-2009 11:50:38] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: I assume they're coming in as /Unknown ?
[28-May-2009 11:50:57] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: you're saying that Zenoss service monitoring is causing syslog messages right?
[28-May-2009 11:51:05] <kisielk> yeah, it's not a matter of mapping it in Zenoss
[28-May-2009 11:51:15] <kisielk> but the logs in /var/log/messages on the servers get full of this stuff
[28-May-2009 11:51:25] <kisielk> and it makes it extremely difficult to read the logs
[28-May-2009 11:51:35] <mrayzenoss> ahhh
[28-May-2009 11:51:37] <kisielk> in Zenoss I already drop the events
[28-May-2009 11:54:13] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: I don't really have a good answer for that
[28-May-2009 11:54:50] <mrayzenoss> perhaps there's a setting in the sshd.conf or with rsync for turning down logging
[28-May-2009 11:55:04] <rocket> kisielk: using syslog-ng?
[28-May-2009 11:55:13] <kisielk> rocket: yes
[28-May-2009 11:55:33] <rocket> kisielk: create a filter in syslog-ng to send those to /dev/null first?
[28-May-2009 11:56:05] <kisielk> yeah I thought of that, but I don't like the idea of regexp filtering messages on all my servers
[28-May-2009 11:56:34] <rocket> hrmm I see .. I assumed you were doing central syslogging
[28-May-2009 11:56:44] <rocket> and you would just filter on the central server
[28-May-2009 12:02:39] <kisielk> well, we do that too
[28-May-2009 12:02:52] <kisielk> but it's useful to be able to see the logs on an individual machine
[28-May-2009 12:03:00] <kisielk> if you're working on it, and want to see log output
[28-May-2009 12:04:20] <rocket> kisielk: I usually do something like cat|grep -v <filter string> > /tmp/x and just look at the temporary file etc
[28-May-2009 12:04:49] <kisielk> yeah, that's nice if I know what I'm looking for
[28-May-2009 12:09:35] <rocket> kisielk: the -v removes the crap etc
[28-May-2009 12:09:58] <rocket> eg if you see a bunch of stuff that is crap you can remove it etc
[28-May-2009 12:10:39] <rocket> cat log|grep -v "ping status"|grep -v "Did not receive identification string from" > /tmp/x
[28-May-2009 12:10:42] <rocket> for example
[28-May-2009 12:10:47] <kisielk> yes, but it would be preferable if that crap was not there in the first place
[28-May-2009 12:10:54] <kisielk> it also tends to fill up the logs rather quickly
[28-May-2009 12:11:02] <rocket> kisielk: where is it coming from? zenoss itself?
[28-May-2009 12:11:08] <mrayzenoss> rocket: yeah
[28-May-2009 12:11:13] <kisielk> well yes, Zenoss connects to the SSH port
[28-May-2009 12:11:20] <kisielk> and then immediately drops the connection
[28-May-2009 12:11:27] <mrayzenoss> the act of monitoring the services is filling his logs with junk
[28-May-2009 12:11:40] <rocket> mrayzenoss: ah .. from the ssh connection .. got it
[28-May-2009 12:12:29] <mrayzenoss> kisielk: open a ticket, maybe there's something we're overlooking and we'll look into it
[28-May-2009 12:13:40] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I am looking for a fix .. I think I have an idea now ..
[28-May-2009 12:17:10] <rocket> kisielk: are you just checking port 22 is alive?
[28-May-2009 12:17:38] <kisielk> well, I'm just using the network services portion of nagios
[28-May-2009 12:17:41] <kisielk> er
[28-May-2009 12:17:42] <kisielk> zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:17:54] <rocket> kisielk: thats what is doing it
[28-May-2009 12:18:03] <rocket> kisielk: you are monitoring ssh status from that
[28-May-2009 12:18:12] <kisielk> yes, I assumed that's what it's for
[28-May-2009 12:18:14] <rocket> kisielk: it connects to the port and immediately closes
[28-May-2009 12:18:23] <rocket> kisielk: ssh doesnt like it
[28-May-2009 12:18:37] <kisielk> yeah, I knew that, sorry if I wasn't too clear about it
[28-May-2009 12:18:50] <kisielk> the question was more, is there a way to make it work without SSH complaining so much
[28-May-2009 12:19:24] <kisielk> because apart from that, I think the functionality provided by that feature is really good
[28-May-2009 12:20:07] <rocket> kisielk: I still think your best bet is to filter in syslog-ng on each system as it should always be the same ip indicated in the log
[28-May-2009 12:20:18] <rocket> kisielk: I dont thing I would do a regex as much as a string
[28-May-2009 12:20:27] <kisielk> hm yes, that's true
[28-May-2009 12:20:27] <rocket> s/thing/think/
[28-May-2009 12:20:54] <rocket> kisielk: as a string it should be pretty safe
[28-May-2009 12:21:04] <mdydyk> hey, i had what i hope is a quick question, is it possible to make zentrap listen on an additional port for snmp traps?
[28-May-2009 12:24:27] <rocket> mdydyk: have you tried creating a second config file and starting a second instance of zentrap using that new config file?
[28-May-2009 12:25:30] <mdydyk> rocket, nope, is that all i need to do? i found the configs under the settings section, so i just duplicate it and maybe call it zentrap2 or something? what tells zenoss to start the 2nd instance of it?
[28-May-2009 12:26:03] <rocket> mdydyk: possibly .. I havent tried myself .. but its what I would look at doing myself
[28-May-2009 12:26:16] <mdydyk> yeah that sounds very logical
[28-May-2009 12:27:39] <rocket> mdydyk: most likely you need to find the bin/zentrap and create bin/zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:28:11] <rocket> mdydyk: to have your new one started automatically I would edit bin/zenoss also
[28-May-2009 12:28:18] <mdydyk> hmm, i'm trying to figure out what file starts the other processes
[28-May-2009 12:29:32] <rocket> anyway bin/zentrap2 would specify the new zentrap2.conf
[28-May-2009 12:29:45] <rocket> and update that conf to have the new port ..
[28-May-2009 12:30:55] <mdydyk> looks like maybe i can stick it in bin/zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:31:17] <rocket> mdydyk: didnt I say that?
[28-May-2009 12:31:56] <mdydyk> oh yeah
[28-May-2009 12:31:59] <mdydyk> oops
[28-May-2009 12:47:16] <mdydyk> hmm, getting there i guess, it's confusing zentrap with zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:47:22] <mdydyk> Daemon: zentrap starting...
[28-May-2009 12:47:22] <mdydyk> Daemon: zentrap2 is already running
[28-May-2009 12:47:30] <mdydyk> oh duh, i know why
[28-May-2009 12:47:40] <mdydyk> i didnt change the python script in bin/zentrap2
[28-May-2009 12:55:22] <mdydyk> rocket, looks like that worked exactly how i wanted it to
[28-May-2009 12:55:33] <mdydyk> all i did was duplicate everything, and add zentrap2 to bin/zenoss
[28-May-2009 12:55:50] <mdydyk> i noticed the zentrap.conf file was blank for some reason, editing and re-saving it from the GUI wrote out a correct config tho
[28-May-2009 12:56:41] <rocket> mdydyk: sounds good
[28-May-2009 12:56:52] <mdydyk> thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i knew it had to be do-able
[28-May-2009 12:57:30] <mdydyk> i dont know why this platform insists on sending it's traps to port 8162, but at least i was able to workaround it without tinkering with the other side
[28-May-2009 13:07:15] <perr0> were caseyh @ y0
[28-May-2009 13:07:24] <kwame> Hi, I'm just starting the installer of zenoos, and it tells me that the root password for mysql should be "alphanumeric charachters only"
[28-May-2009 13:07:33] <kwame> but my root password includes !
[28-May-2009 13:07:47] <kwame> is there a way aroung that "feature"/"requirement" ?
[28-May-2009 13:07:59] <kwame> it seems kind of lame that the password should be all charachters
[28-May-2009 13:09:04] <edwardam> Any pointers on taking an existing install and split up the zenhubs ?
[28-May-2009 13:09:16] <mrayzenoss> kwame: agreed http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3550
[28-May-2009 13:09:29] <mrayzenoss> kwame: we just haven't fixed it yet, so the work-around is to doc it
[28-May-2009 13:10:16] <kwame> mrayzenoss: "doc it"?
[28-May-2009 13:10:30] <mrayzenoss> kwame: tell people not to use things we know will break it
[28-May-2009 13:12:07] <kwame> :?
[28-May-2009 13:12:15] <kwame> I hope you are joking
[28-May-2009 13:14:36] <mrayzenoss> I'm not saying it was intentionally broken from the beginning
[28-May-2009 13:15:13] <mrayzenoss> we just haven't gotten around to fixing it yet
[28-May-2009 13:15:18] <mrayzenoss> (patches are always welcome)
[28-May-2009 13:16:00] <kwame> mrayzenoss: can I create an user and give it full privileges and use that user for the install?
[28-May-2009 13:16:22] <kwame> or there is no way around it and I need to change the mysql root password?
[28-May-2009 13:16:49] <mrayzenoss> so you're using an existing mysql or you want to change the mysql installed with Zenoss?
[28-May-2009 13:17:01] <mrayzenoss> I think you can change it either way
[28-May-2009 13:17:18] <mrayzenoss> I don't know why the installer has that limitation, but you can change it post-install
[28-May-2009 13:17:40] <kwame> mrayzenoss: now I'm even more confused
[28-May-2009 13:17:51] <mrayzenoss> ok. Which installer are you using?
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[28-May-2009 13:18:02] <kwame> mrayzenoss: ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin
[28-May-2009 13:18:16] <kwame> mrayzenoss: so, I run the installer and I get to this question: Please enter your database root user password
[28-May-2009 13:18:20] <mrayzenoss> ok, the stack installer will try to install MySQL for Zenoss to use
[28-May-2009 13:18:21] <kwame> MySQL Server root password :
[28-May-2009 13:18:33] <mrayzenoss> our own instance
[28-May-2009 13:18:39] <kwame> ah, but I already have mysql running on that host
[28-May-2009 13:20:12] <mrayzenoss> ah nuts, I found that the Install Guide says to refer to the Admin Guide for how to do that
[28-May-2009 13:20:17] <mrayzenoss> and I can't find it in the Admin Guide
[28-May-2009 13:20:22] <mrayzenoss> just a minute
[28-May-2009 13:23:34] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I think I found how
[28-May-2009 13:23:52] <kwame> --mysql_database_name --mysql_database_username --mysql_database_password
[28-May-2009 13:25:33] <kwame> oh,
[28-May-2009 13:26:36] <kwame> So I'm doing this --> ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin --mysql_port 3306 --mysql_database_name zenoss --mysql_database_username dan --mysql_database_password PassworD
[28-May-2009 13:27:07] <kwame> and I get to this section : Please enter your MySQL database information: MySQL Server port [3306]:
[28-May-2009 13:27:08] <mrayzenoss> I thought your password had a "!" in it
[28-May-2009 13:27:16] <kwame> But I get this error
[28-May-2009 13:27:17] <kwame> Warning: It seems you do not have enough permissions to bind to the port or the
[28-May-2009 13:27:17] <kwame> port is already taken by another application. Please select another one.
[28-May-2009 13:27:18] <kwame> Press [Enter] to continue :
[28-May-2009 13:27:38] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I created this user with full access to the DB, and created a database named zenoss
[28-May-2009 13:27:57] <kwame> I thought that by passing those flags to the stack installer, that would connect to the running instance of the DB
[28-May-2009 13:28:06] <kwame> but it's still trying to create it's own DB server
[28-May-2009 13:34:14] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I just grabbed the rpm (I'm installing it on CentOS 5.3) and it worked
[28-May-2009 13:34:37] <kwame> I'm reading on the documentation that I should install the Zenoss Core ZenPacks, but I can't find that rpm in the download page
[28-May-2009 13:34:41] <kwame> any directrions?
[28-May-2009 13:34:47] <mrayzenoss> kwame: sorry for the grief, where were those flags documented? I'm opening a doc ticket related to remote mysql installs
[28-May-2009 13:35:09] <mrayzenoss> kwame: http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/#corezenpacks
[28-May-2009 13:35:13] <kwame> mrayzenoss: I found them with ./zenoss-stack-2.4.1-linux-x64.bin --help
[28-May-2009 13:35:24] <kwame> mrayzenoss: no grief at all, happy to help out
[28-May-2009 13:35:27] <mrayzenoss> kwame: thanks, I'll make sure that gets documented better
[28-May-2009 13:36:42] <kwame> mrayzenoss: thanks, I followed the link you gave me to http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/all-core-zenpacks
[28-May-2009 14:00:56] <mloven> hi all
[28-May-2009 14:09:16] <mloven> I have a data source question if anyone feels up to it...
[28-May-2009 14:10:34] <mrayzenoss> sure
[28-May-2009 14:10:38] <mrayzenoss> I'll try
[28-May-2009 14:10:49] <mloven> Is it possible to create a data source that is a result of dividing two other data sources?
[28-May-2009 14:11:31] <mrayzenoss> could you give an example of what you want?
[28-May-2009 14:12:09] <mloven> yeah, I thought that might not be the best description.
I'll elaborate...[28-May-2009 14:12:43] <mloven> let's say I have an oid that give me the total number of logins to a device. And I have an oid that will return the number of failed logins.
[28-May-2009 14:13:04] <mloven> But I'm really only interested in what percentage of logins actually fail....
[28-May-2009 14:13:20] <mrayzenoss> probably want to do it with a zencommand
[28-May-2009 14:13:44] <mrayzenoss> script getting the 2 oids and do whatever calculation you need in the script
[28-May-2009 14:13:46] <mrayzenoss> or in RRD
[28-May-2009 14:14:18] <mloven> ok. two good ideas. Thanks Matt!
[28-May-2009 14:14:57] <mrayzenoss> good luck
[28-May-2009 14:38:48] <cgibbons> hmmm
[28-May-2009 14:39:35] <mrayzenoss> something not working cgibbons?
[28-May-2009 14:39:49] <cgibbons> always, but I just realized I hadn't even looked here since I started it this morning
[28-May-2009 14:40:08] <mrayzenoss> it's been a fun day
[28-May-2009 14:40:46] <mrayzenoss> but now, I need to get cranking on getting ZenPacks out
[28-May-2009 15:53:24] <AngryParsley> is there a zenpack that can do an http request, look at the response (which is XML in this case), and alert based on whether or not a value in the response is > some number?
[28-May-2009 15:56:14] <mrayzenoss> have you tried HTTP Monitor?
[28-May-2009 15:56:16] <mrayzenoss> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[28-May-2009 15:56:43] <AngryParsley> I have not. I just got admin rights at work on a test box with zenoss
[28-May-2009 15:57:16] <AngryParsley> that's kind of what I want, but the XML contains a number that is basically the number of seconds since a backup happened
[28-May-2009 15:57:34] <AngryParsley> and I want to alert if a backup hasn't been done in the past X hours
[28-May-2009 16:04:24] <jmp242> Well, I guess you could write a command datasource
[28-May-2009 16:04:45] <jmp242> like I did when I wanted to scrape off a webpage from a printer the percentage used toner
[28-May-2009 16:04:59] <AngryParsley> ah, like a shell/python/whatever script that parses the XML and returns 0 or nonzero?
[28-May-2009 16:05:05] <jmp242> use wget and then output the value
[28-May-2009 16:05:08] <mrayzenoss> yeah, that's even easier
[28-May-2009 16:05:11] <jmp242> use a threshold
[28-May-2009 16:05:19] <jmp242> for where you want the alert in Zenoss I guess
[28-May-2009 16:05:34] <jmp242> though you could have the logic in the script if you don't want a graph
[28-May-2009 16:05:35] <AngryParsley> I am a total zenoss newb, so I don't really know what it can do
[28-May-2009 16:06:12] <jmp242> well . . . start with the admin guide and perhaps the various FAQs: trac-zenpacks/wiki/CommunityFAQGeneral
[28-May-2009 16:06:32] <jmp242> there's too much for us to really help with without some background knowledge
[28-May-2009 16:06:49] <mrayzenoss> AngryParsley: there's a Getting Started with Zenoss webinar next Tuesday
[28-May-2009 16:06:52] <jmp242> But, yes, you can use shell/ python/perl etc
[28-May-2009 16:06:58] <jmp242> in the command datasouce...
[28-May-2009 16:07:25] <AngryParsley> neat
[28-May-2009 16:07:34] <AngryParsley> I will probably over-rely on that then
[28-May-2009 16:09:19] <jmp242> I think Command Datasources are the easiest way to extend Zenoss
[28-May-2009 16:09:30] <jmp242> certainly, it's what I like to use, not being a proficient coder
[28-May-2009 19:21:56] <AngryParsley> the command data sources are sweet. thanks for pointing them out
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[29-May-2009 03:28:26] <sergeymasushko> I've added snmp datasource in the template, specified OID. when I enter device name and click the 'test' button on the 'edit datasource' page I got the result. however RRD graphs on a perf page is not generated and I see events e.g. 'Error reading value for "Active DS0s" on cisco01.mycompany.net (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.19.1.1.4 is bad). where can be the problem?
[29-May-2009 04:43:58] <Dieterbe> Hi,I installed and configured the apachemonitor zenpack as described in the "extended monitoring guide". (ExtendedStatus = On, lynx localhost/server-status?auto looks good). the monitoring host is the same as the host being monitored
[29-May-2009 04:44:47] <Dieterbe> I bound the template to the host, i checked that the datasource is enabled. but there are no RRD files being created in perf/Devices/staging (staging == devicename)
[29-May-2009 04:47:24] <Dieterbe> and when I run `python check_apache.py -H localhost` myself the output looks good (OK and a bunch of apache variables)
[29-May-2009 07:00:18] <asachs> Hi all, i have devices flapping up and down on a radio based network and am getting events for each up/down, any way to stop getting these ?
[29-May-2009 07:05:58] <sergeymasushko> asachs: you can set count to 2 in the alerting rule.
[29-May-2009 07:06:35] <asachs> sergeymasushko: does that fix the case where each flap is getting a new event id ?
[29-May-2009 07:09:09] <sergeymasushko> in this case if alert event created and cleared before count increased you should not receive an email
[29-May-2009 07:09:31] <sergeymasushko> or you can set delay on the alerting rule....
[29-May-2009 07:11:06] <sergeymasushko> e.g. 10-20 seconds... in this case email will be sent only in 20-30 seconds after arriving an alert event and it is not cleared...
[29-May-2009 07:19:17] <perr0> hi sergeymasushko
[29-May-2009 07:20:32] <asachs> sergeymasushko: thanks, just stumbled onto that in forums too, apologies for the lack of research upfront
[29-May-2009 07:23:13] <sergeymasushko> perr0: morning
[29-May-2009 07:25:29] <sergeymasushko> perr0: however here is almost evening
[29-May-2009 07:26:22] <perr0> I am barely awake at the office.. Where are you located?
[29-May-2009 07:34:52] <sergeymasushko> ukraine
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[29-May-2009 09:22:18] <jb> hey matt
[29-May-2009 09:22:24] <jb> where is the most recent "how to create a zenpack" doc?
[29-May-2009 09:22:27] <jb> is it on the wiki?
[29-May-2009 09:24:26] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 13.3 in the Admin Guide covers the basics
[29-May-2009 09:24:32] <mrayzenoss> what kind are you making?
[29-May-2009 09:25:15] <mrayzenoss> Chapter 3 of the Dev Guide has more details
[29-May-2009 09:25:27] <mrayzenoss> the Community ZenPack Repository covers some esoteric stuff
[29-May-2009 09:25:55] <venturaville> mrayzenoss: putting that note about how to libexec pathing in there would be helpful.......
[29-May-2009 09:27:41] <jb> just some app zenpacks
[29-May-2009 09:28:06] <jb> just wanted to read the docs for a sec before I started these new ones..
[29-May-2009 09:31:16] <pupmini> mrayzenoss: hey mrayzenoss, remember a few days ago the problem I had about the starting of daemons?
[29-May-2009 09:31:27] <mrayzenoss> yeah, permissions or something?
[29-May-2009 09:31:36] <pupmini> ya, though that was it,
[29-May-2009 09:31:59] <pupmini> still not starting up 100% of the time
[29-May-2009 09:41:15] <pupmini> hrmm, its just randomly started after a restart of the entire stack
[29-May-2009 09:45:12] <mrayzenoss> Dieterbe: saw your email on the zenpacks forum, have you restarted zope since installing the ZenPack?
[29-May-2009 09:45:53] <mrayzenoss> and probably zenhub as well
[29-May-2009 10:06:24] <rocket> Hey Matt
[29-May-2009 10:10:46] <mrayzenoss> myellow
[29-May-2009 10:12:33] <jb> ok, so when are you going to let me try this zenpack?
[29-May-2009 10:12:55] <mrayzenoss> which one?
[29-May-2009 10:13:25] <mrayzenoss> my current queue: updated HPMon, Advanced Details and Component Cleaner
[29-May-2009 10:13:42] <mrayzenoss> then Point, Range and Predictive thresholds
[29-May-2009 10:13:44] <jb> well, I was referring to the new AIX pack by rocket
[29-May-2009 10:14:02] <jb> but, the HPmon stuff is hotness.. we need it for dell
[29-May-2009 10:14:22] <rocket> jb: hrmm its not done .. but if you dont mind a work in progress ..
[29-May-2009 10:14:24] <mrayzenoss> jb: actually, Egor asked me for the output of some OIDs for doing a Dell one
[29-May-2009 10:14:40] <mrayzenoss> I didn't have access to a Dell, but I googled the stuff he wanted and found it
[29-May-2009 10:15:08] <mrayzenoss> he was looking for Perc stuff, so I'm guessing it's going to be comprehensive like his HP one
[29-May-2009 10:16:34] <rocket> bah .. damn competition
[29-May-2009 10:16:48] <mrayzenoss> heh
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[29-May-2009 11:23:36] <jb> mrayzenoss: oh yeah?
[29-May-2009 11:23:42] <jb> mrayzenoss: let him know I can help..
[29-May-2009 11:25:02] <rocket> jb: are you running at least 2.4?
[29-May-2009 11:25:06] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 11:25:07] <jb> 2.4.1
[29-May-2009 11:25:12] <jb> in production
[29-May-2009 11:25:57] <rocket> jb: I am getting closer .. I will send you my zenpacks if you want .. I still need to tweak some things ... eg I need to tweak the graphs etc
[29-May-2009 11:27:17] <jb> how is the stability of snmp?
[29-May-2009 11:27:26] <jb> thats the only thing I am concerned about
[29-May-2009 11:27:38] <rocket> jb: so far not so good honestly
[29-May-2009 11:27:49] <rocket> jb: I found a patch that I havent applied from ibm
[29-May-2009 11:27:52] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 11:27:52] <jb> url?
[29-May-2009 11:27:58] <rocket> for their aix clients
[29-May-2009 11:28:04] <jb> why oh why must AIX's snmpd suck so badly!
[29-May-2009 11:28:10] <rocket> jb: not sure I would have to look again
[29-May-2009 11:28:23] <rocket> jb: I agree
[29-May-2009 11:28:26] <jb> even the TL09+ boxes needed it?
[29-May-2009 11:28:44] <rocket> AIX 6.1 and aix 5.3 tl7 needed it I think
[29-May-2009 11:28:50] <jb> k
[29-May-2009 11:28:52] <rocket> 6.1 sp2
[29-May-2009 11:28:57] <jb> but it delt with snmpd stability?
[29-May-2009 11:29:01] <rocket> yes
[29-May-2009 11:29:04] <jb> ok cool
[29-May-2009 11:29:09] <jb> yeah, thats the only thing I am worried about
[29-May-2009 11:29:17] <rocket> there is one out there .. again I am not sure if it resolvs the problem
[29-May-2009 11:29:23] <rocket> aixmibd keeps crashing on me
[29-May-2009 11:29:23] <jb> ok
[29-May-2009 11:29:26] <jb> yep
[29-May-2009 11:29:33] <jb> i remember the same..
[29-May-2009 11:29:43] <rocket> so I might be forced to do ssh just for that reason alone
[29-May-2009 11:29:54] <rocket> which is a shame .. since this is so pretty
[29-May-2009 11:30:07] <jb> well, all of the same info can be obtained via SSH though
[29-May-2009 11:30:10] <jb> just a little of work
[29-May-2009 11:30:22] * rocket is getting lpar info such as entitled capacity etc from snmp
[29-May-2009 11:30:28] <jb> thats sorta hot
[29-May-2009 11:30:28] <jb>
[29-May-2009 11:34:21] <rocket> jb: screenies on the way
[29-May-2009 11:35:08] <rocket> jb: get them?
[29-May-2009 11:56:09] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 11:56:11] <jb> sorry
[29-May-2009 11:56:15] <jb> looking now
[29-May-2009 11:57:12] <jb> looks good!
[29-May-2009 11:58:33] <rocket>
[29-May-2009 11:58:48] <rocket> a little better than default zenoss you think?
[29-May-2009 13:08:21] <jb> chet?
[29-May-2009 13:08:27] <jb> not here
[29-May-2009 13:08:28] <jb> :/
[29-May-2009 13:19:23] <jb> anybody here had trouble adding winperf datasources and zenwinperf reporting them as "bad," but the "Test" function in the GUI reporting them successfully?
[29-May-2009 13:19:25] <jb> in 2.4
[29-May-2009 13:25:42] <jb> hey chet
[29-May-2009 13:26:07] <cluther> hi jb.. there is a way..
[29-May-2009 13:26:20] <cluther> It is a hack for the moment until I figure out a better way.
[29-May-2009 13:26:21] <jb> oh yeah?
[29-May-2009 13:26:53] <cluther> Open up $ZENHOME/Products/UserSettings.py and find "ufolder = UserSettings(userid) somewhere around line 190.
[29-May-2009 13:27:01] <rocket> heh cluther
[29-May-2009 13:27:08] <cgibbons> jb - what was the datasource you were having trouble with?
[29-May-2009 13:27:30] <jb> cgibbons: several datasources.. i can zenwinperf --testCounter them all over and over again.. sucessfully.
[29-May-2009 13:27:36] <jb> but during a routing zenwinperf run
[29-May-2009 13:27:37] <cluther> Add a line containing "if user: raise Unauthorized("User %s doesn't exist." % userid)" immediately before the ufolder = line.
[29-May-2009 13:27:43] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm MPE(instance1)\Rate Events Processed / Sec
[29-May-2009 13:27:43] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm Mediator Server\# Agent Connections
[29-May-2009 13:27:44] <jb> etc
[29-May-2009 13:27:47] <jb> one sec chet
[29-May-2009 13:28:47] <cgibbons> weird that --testCounter would work but not the other. best suggestion I have short-term would be to do a zenwinperf run -v10 -d yourbaddevice --capturefile=yourbaddevice > zenwinperf.log 2>&1 and we can look @ what the data says
[29-May-2009 13:29:16] <jb> ok one min
[29-May-2009 13:29:35] <jb> chet: ok, change is made.. let me restart.. how do I specify the group name though?
[29-May-2009 13:30:22] <cluther> jb: This will require that you setup the users ahead of time in Zenoss. Users that exist in AD won't automatically be created in Zenoss when they login.
[29-May-2009 13:30:27] <jb> oh
[29-May-2009 13:30:29] <jb> thats perfect
[29-May-2009 13:30:34] <jb> thats what I wanted to begin with!
[29-May-2009 13:31:24] <jb> hmm
[29-May-2009 13:31:29] <jb> looks like that caused some errors
[29-May-2009 13:33:23] <jb> or maybe I made an accidental change.
[29-May-2009 13:36:41] <jb> one sec.
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[29-May-2009 13:42:38] <jb> cluther: ok, perfect.
[29-May-2009 13:42:40] <jb> worked great
[29-May-2009 13:42:49] <jb> should I create a ticket for that?
[29-May-2009 13:43:08] <jb> cgibbons: ok, on to the winperf.. let me try to capture some debug info
[29-May-2009 13:46:58] <cluther> jb: A ticket for the UserSettings change? No.
[29-May-2009 13:47:14] <jb> ok
[29-May-2009 13:47:52] <jb> cgibbons: all I can really see in the log is the "Bad Counter" log
[29-May-2009 13:48:13] <cgibbons> -v10 should produce a big dump of data, no?
[29-May-2009 13:48:17] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 13:48:19] <jb> like 12k lines
[29-May-2009 13:48:29] <cgibbons> that'll be useful for me
[29-May-2009 13:48:40] <jb> want a copy of it?
[29-May-2009 13:49:05] <jb> two of the couters in this template always work, and one worked once or twice (enough to get a bit of data for a graph).. the others have never worked
[29-May-2009 13:49:07] <cgibbons> please
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[29-May-2009 13:54:19] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/zenwinperf.log
[29-May-2009 13:54:21] <jb> there you go
[29-May-2009 13:57:03] <jb> cluther: one tiny issue.. when I model a device, a trace appears at the top referring to LDAPDelegate.py.. the device continues to model correctly, but the error is always there.. this happened before the change to UserSettings.py as well. It goes away if I disable the adPlugin..
[29-May-2009 13:57:04] <rocket> jb sent you a couple new screenies
[29-May-2009 13:57:11] <jb> ah one sec
[29-May-2009 13:57:35] <jb> oh nice
[29-May-2009 13:57:44] <jb> lpar stats
[29-May-2009 13:57:47] <rocket>
[29-May-2009 13:58:08] <rocket> community predictive thresholds too
[29-May-2009 13:58:28] <rocket> though they havent been tested too much yet
[29-May-2009 13:58:38] <jb> is that a separate pack?
[29-May-2009 13:58:43] <rocket> yes
[29-May-2009 13:58:45] <jb> k
[29-May-2009 13:59:02] <jb> whats up with that funky rrd font?
[29-May-2009 13:59:11] <rocket> its an old beta release
[29-May-2009 13:59:21] <rocket> I just havent updated my dev env yet
[29-May-2009 13:59:24] <jb> ah
[29-May-2009 13:59:26] <mrayzenoss> what's up with your fonts?
[29-May-2009 13:59:41] <mrayzenoss> oops, jb noticed as well
[29-May-2009 13:59:44] <jb>
[29-May-2009 13:59:45] <rocket> mrayzenoss: I just told jb
[29-May-2009 14:00:17] <rocket> I didnt care about fonts as much as functionality at the moment
[29-May-2009 14:01:03] <rocket> now I just have to figure out how to easily get the swap info from snmp ..
[29-May-2009 14:01:11] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 14:01:35] <cgibbons> so jb, you said --testCounter for ' \LogRhythm MPE(instance1)\Rate Events Inserted / Sec' works?
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[29-May-2009 14:01:46] <jb> yep
[29-May-2009 14:01:55] <cgibbons> can you do that with -v10 added and post the logfile of it, too?
[29-May-2009 14:02:00] <jb> sure
[29-May-2009 14:03:02] <jb> oh wow, it actually failed that time.
[29-May-2009 14:03:08] <jb> i swear I must have done it 50 times.
[29-May-2009 14:03:43] <cgibbons> I don't see instance1 listed in that particular raw data, is why I asked. Does it show up with PerfMon on the box itself?
[29-May-2009 14:04:31] <jb> ok, it did work..
[29-May-2009 14:04:34] <jb> i was hitting the wrong one.
[29-May-2009 14:05:20] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/testcount.txt
[29-May-2009 14:05:51] <cgibbons> hrm that was with -v10 added?
[29-May-2009 14:06:20] <jb> sorry.. that was -v 20
[29-May-2009 14:06:27] <jb> hang on
[29-May-2009 14:07:15] <jb> http://thunder.jbdesign.net/~jbaird/counter.txt
[29-May-2009 14:07:27] <cgibbons> ok cool
[29-May-2009 14:09:37] <jb> i do see an error in one of the datasources though
[29-May-2009 14:10:38] <cgibbons> oh?
[29-May-2009 14:10:45] <jb> fixing now.
[29-May-2009 14:14:07] <jb> ok I fixed the one that was broken
[29-May-2009 14:14:14] <jb> i just "tested" every source thru the gui with success
[29-May-2009 14:15:27] <cgibbons> quirky
[29-May-2009 14:15:47] <jb> hm, the RRDs actually rendered
[29-May-2009 14:19:06] <jb> DEBUG:zen.zenwinperf:Fetch wrxxcrplrlm01.corp.follett.com: {'\\LogRhythm Mediator Server\\Log Manager Database % Used': 85.0}
[29-May-2009 14:19:34] <jb> from testcounter
[29-May-2009 14:19:35] <jb> WARNING:zen.winperf.PerfRpc:Bad counter: \LogRhythm Mediator Server\Log Manager Database % Used
[29-May-2009 14:19:51] <jb> and thats from a normal zenwinperf run
[29-May-2009 14:21:02] <jb> yet the graph shows a tiny bit of data
[29-May-2009 14:21:04] <jb> odd
[29-May-2009 14:21:20] <jb> maybe I'll let it brew overnight
[29-May-2009 14:23:02] <cgibbons> From the logs you posted, in the normal run the LogRhythm Mpe object isn't showing up in the data retrieved at all, so that's what we'd have to focus on. It is included in the query being sent to the Windows box, so something breaks down after that.
[29-May-2009 14:23:49] <cgibbons> I notice the query is very large (look for 'Perfmon Object query' in the log), or at least larger than what I normally have seen, so that might be a hint that some data is being dropped or something... yet it looks like we're getting a full load of data back without issue.
[29-May-2009 14:24:19] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 14:24:48] <jb> but the object is valid
[29-May-2009 14:25:15] <cgibbons> We had a bug in 2.3.x that was fixed in 2.4.x where in some cases we wouldn't get all the data back from the server, but it was real obvious (well, to my eyes) that the data was being truncated because we weren't reading it all off the server.
[29-May-2009 14:25:42] <cgibbons> but in your case, the server says we sent you 25984 bytes, and we parsed 25984 bytes, so we're good there
[29-May-2009 14:25:52] <cgibbons> and thats' a pretty small amount, so... nothing weird there
[29-May-2009 14:25:56] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 14:25:59] <cgibbons> headscratcher
[29-May-2009 14:26:05] <cgibbons> have you already got a case open for that?
[29-May-2009 14:26:12] <jb> nope.. just encountered it for the first time today
[29-May-2009 14:28:04] <jb> eek. now more ldap problems
[29-May-2009 14:29:29] <jb> cgibbons: if it doesn't clear up magically.. I may open a case on Monday
[29-May-2009 14:30:34] <cgibbons> okay cool. we'll probably have to do some interesting diagnostics to figure out what's up. one thing you might want to try if you have time is to create a new template that just has a few of the \\LogRhythm* counters and none of the others, just to see if they all work by themselves
[29-May-2009 14:31:08] <jb> yeah i was thinking the same thing
[29-May-2009 14:31:13] <jb> i'll do that as soon as I have some time
[29-May-2009 14:31:32] <jb> cluther: still around by any chance?
[29-May-2009 14:34:05] <cluther> jb: yeah
[29-May-2009 14:34:08] <jb> i'm getting LDAP invalid credential errors everytime I model a device.. yet zope has a connection to my GC, and login is working
[29-May-2009 14:34:24] <jb> Failure connecting, last attempted server: ldap://rgxxcrpnadc02.corp.follett.com:3268 ({'info': '80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090334, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 775, vece', 'desc': 'Invalid credentials'})
[29-May-2009 14:36:24] <jb> actually
[29-May-2009 14:36:25] <jb> hm
[29-May-2009 14:36:42] <cluther> This is because when you're modeling a device you're really just tailing the event.log, so you see everything that's going on with Zope.
[29-May-2009 14:36:54] <cluther> So the error really has nothing to do with modeling the device. Just someone else really putting in bad credentials.
[29-May-2009 14:37:15] <cluther> This is part of the reason we created the jobber (zenjobs) to get rid of this rather inelegant solution.
[29-May-2009 14:37:25] <cluther> Now we just have to get all of these kinds of jobs migrated to the jobber.
[29-May-2009 14:37:26] <jb> ahh
[29-May-2009 14:37:42] <jb> its a little odd
[29-May-2009 14:37:55] <jb> because, I just created a new zen user with no role, or no administered objects
[29-May-2009 14:38:24] <jb> and when I logged in (using the AD password) i see a few systems
[29-May-2009 14:38:47] <jb> im wondering if something is cached somewhere.. because the previous user that I created, I added this system group to his "Administered Objects"
[29-May-2009 14:39:59] <jb> yeah, I believe it was cached.. cause now, LDAP auth is not working
[29-May-2009 14:42:36] <jb> do you know if these ldap connection attempts are logged anywhere?
[29-May-2009 14:43:52] <cluther> jb: Only the failures are logged to event.log
[29-May-2009 14:44:00] <cluther> You can look at the current cache within the AD plugin itself.
[29-May-2009 14:44:21] <jb> ok here we go
[29-May-2009 14:44:29] <jb> 2009-05-29T14:44:16 CRITICAL event.LDAPDelegate Failure connecting, last attempted server: ldap://rgxxcrpnadc02.corp.follett.com:3268 ({'info': '80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090334, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 775, vece', 'desc': 'Invalid credentials'})
[29-May-2009 14:44:32] <jb> same
[29-May-2009 14:45:07] <cluther> A common problem that can lead to invalid credentials is the account getting locked within AD due to successive login failures.
[29-May-2009 14:45:15] <jb> right
[29-May-2009 14:45:16] <jb> checked that one
[29-May-2009 14:45:51] <jb> oops
[29-May-2009 14:45:57] <jb> i checked the DN account
[29-May-2009 14:46:11] <jb> ok, I read a note about this in the extended monitoring guide
[29-May-2009 14:46:23] <jb> unfortuantly, group policy says 3 login attempts == lockout
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[29-May-2009 14:47:45] <jb> hrm
[29-May-2009 14:47:48] <jb> yeah, its a bit goofy
[29-May-2009 14:47:53] <jb> im still seeing objects that I shouldn't when I login
[29-May-2009 14:49:18] <jb> this is what is happening
[29-May-2009 14:49:27] <jb> when I add a user, and assign them a system group for example
[29-May-2009 14:49:35] <jb> the next user that I add, automatically gets access to that system group
[29-May-2009 14:49:47] <jb> even if I don't specify it in "Administerd Objects"
[29-May-2009 14:51:20] <cluther> hmm.. I've never seen anything like that before.
[29-May-2009 14:51:28] <cluther> Are you using a RAMCache or anything like that?
[29-May-2009 14:51:30] <cluther> within zope?
[29-May-2009 14:51:32] <jb> nope
[29-May-2009 14:52:07] <cluther> Is it possible that you previously granted the new user access to that system, then deleted them?
[29-May-2009 14:52:16] <cluther> I think this can leave behind the administered objects associations.
[29-May-2009 14:52:39] <jb> yes, thats probably it..
[29-May-2009 14:52:41] <jb> let me test that theory
[29-May-2009 14:53:48] <jb> right again
[29-May-2009 14:53:55] <jb> i was using the same user to test
[29-May-2009 14:54:18] <jb> just tried it with another one that I had deleted.. when I re-created it, only the device group that I added previously appeared
[29-May-2009 14:54:22] <jb> not any others
[29-May-2009 14:56:44] <cluther> If this is a concern to you I can send you a script that cleans up admin roles that reference non-existent users.
[29-May-2009 15:04:39] <jb> it might be.. let me get some feedback from some people
[29-May-2009 15:04:42] <jb> i appreciate it
[29-May-2009 15:05:03] <jb> i'll play with the lockout stuff
[29-May-2009 15:05:59] <jb> another semi-odd thing that I have discovered
[29-May-2009 15:06:04] <jb> if you add one system group to a user
[29-May-2009 15:06:07] <jb> and then add another
[29-May-2009 15:06:15] <jb> and choose "Browse By System" once you login
[29-May-2009 15:06:29] <jb> im automatically taken to the first system group that I have added, and the other system group is not visible
[29-May-2009 15:06:40] <jb> although if you click on "Device List"
[29-May-2009 15:06:42] <jb> the devices are there
[29-May-2009 15:07:52] <jb> so "Browse By System" only shows the first system group in Administered Objects
[29-May-2009 15:16:54] <jb> if that makes any sense to you
[29-May-2009 15:24:56] <jb> im a bit confused as to why modeling devices causes the invalid credentials error.. i confirmed by actually tailing event.log that it is occuring
[29-May-2009 15:25:14] <jb> but, im not sure what is causing the LDAP connection
[29-May-2009 15:26:11] <jb> pretty much everytime I click on something new in the GUI, a LDAP error is generated
[29-May-2009 15:28:29] <jb> its trying to authenticate the "admin" user
[29-May-2009 15:28:33] <jb> (thats what im logged in as right now)
[29-May-2009 15:28:37] <jb> its a local zenoss user
[29-May-2009 15:29:51] <venturaville> did you change the admin password by chance?
[29-May-2009 15:29:58] <jb> not since I enabled ldap
[29-May-2009 15:30:14] <jb> since the "admin" account is not a valid AD account
[29-May-2009 15:30:21] <jb> its obviously not able to auth
[29-May-2009 15:30:31] <jb> but it shouldn't be trying anyways, since its a local zenoss account
[29-May-2009 15:30:39] <venturaville> *shrug*
[29-May-2009 15:30:50] <venturaville> we saw lots of odd things break when we tried to change the default admin password
[29-May-2009 15:30:54] <venturaville> was just curious :-)
[29-May-2009 15:30:57] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 15:31:12] <jb> it appears that zenoss tries to authenticate via LDAP every time you do something in teh GUI
[29-May-2009 15:33:26] <venturaville> it should be caching it
[29-May-2009 15:33:41] <venturaville> any new user that authenticates gets auto added on ours
[29-May-2009 15:37:43] <jb> yeah
[29-May-2009 15:37:52] <jb> we really don't want any user being able to authenticate
[29-May-2009 15:38:05] <jb> so, we added a mod that basically forces you to create a local zenoss user
[29-May-2009 15:38:10] <venturaville> ah
[29-May-2009 15:38:16] <jb> (when I say we, I mean chet)
[29-May-2009 15:38:25] <jb> then you can auth with your AD password
[29-May-2009 15:38:41] <jb> but I think it would be better to add an option to the user GUI that says "Is this user an LDAP/AD user"
[29-May-2009 15:38:47] <jb> and only try to hook into LDAP/AD for users who check that
[29-May-2009 15:40:42] <jb> thats how I have seen some other apps implement this
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[30-May-2009 01:33:59] <xulfer> Anyone know if there's anything special i need to do to run the nmap portscan plugin beyond just... installing nmap?
[30-May-2009 09:41:03] <crow> hello
[30-May-2009 09:41:22] <crow> anyone know the method to get uptime on a device, for a report... ie: getSysUptime. getSysUptime doesnt seem to be it
[30-May-2009 11:38:37] <rsFF> zenoss is a real-time /historical monitoring system ritgh??
[30-May-2009 11:50:54] <crow> yeah. alerting, reporting, etc...
[30-May-2009 11:51:02] <crow> Can be extended with plugins as well.
[30-May-2009 12:36:43] <rsFF> crow: yeah but im doing a paper about network monitoring and from what ive read there ware two types
[30-May-2009 12:36:47] <rsFF> the real time
[30-May-2009 12:36:51] <rsFF> and the historical
[30-May-2009 12:37:09] <rsFF> but from what in know and ive used i think it is kind a hybrid
[30-May-2009 12:37:16] <rsFF> i just want to be sure
[30-May-2009 12:50:58] <crow> "real-time" is relative to your collection frequency. We use it on a 5 minute interval and we watch the graphs in real time
[30-May-2009 12:51:06] <crow> we also use the historical data
[30-May-2009 12:51:15] <crow> I would say that it covers both
[30-May-2009 12:55:47] <sergeymasushko> I can not add a datasource in a template... when I click 'add datasource' it shows pop-up window with the word 'Loading...' and this window is hung (already about 10 minutes...) how can fix it?
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[30-May-2009 22:07:05] <Garn32> is is possible for zenoss to use a text file to model a device?
[30-May-2009 22:07:38] <sergeymasushko> what do you want to do?
[30-May-2009 22:09:21] <Garn32> I have snmp output from a device and I would like to have zenoss model the device for me
[30-May-2009 22:10:39] <sergeymasushko> why you can not model device directly from the zenoss by snmp?
[30-May-2009 22:11:10] <Garn32> the device recently lost its entire config and all I have to rebuild the device is the snmp output from before it went down
[30-May-2009 22:13:13] <sergeymasushko> hm... probably Dumping and Loading Devices Using XML Lists will help you. http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch09s18.html
[30-May-2009 22:13:13] <sergeymasushko> but I'm not sure... I never used it before...
[30-May-2009 22:14:15] <Garn32> I'll take a look
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[31-May-2009 04:18:09] <xulfer> Hi
[31-May-2009 04:56:19] <rhettlap> hi
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[31-May-2009 11:48:50] <Guest62834> hallow
[31-May-2009 11:49:01] <Guest62834> any body here
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[31-May-2009 11:49:20] <aleye> hallow
[31-May-2009 11:49:26] <aleye> need help
[31-May-2009 11:50:55] <aleye> hlo
[31-May-2009 12:03:17] <sergeymasushko> hi
[31-May-2009 12:08:59] <aleye> hai
[31-May-2009 12:09:01] <aleye> hallow
[31-May-2009 12:09:08] <aleye> need help
[31-May-2009 12:09:09] <aleye> please
[31-May-2009 12:09:12] <aleye> help me
[31-May-2009 12:09:14] <aleye> hallows
[31-May-2009 12:10:37] <perr0> hi sergey
[31-May-2009 12:10:46] <sergeymasushko> perr0: morning
[31-May-2009 12:11:00] <perr0> odd to see you here on a Sunday
[31-May-2009 12:11:11] <sergeymasushko> why?
[31-May-2009 12:15:18] <aleye> hlow
[31-May-2009 12:15:51] <aleye> i have troble with my zenoss
[31-May-2009 12:28:40] <perr0> sergeymasushko: not everybody stops by on the weekedns
[31-May-2009 12:28:45] <perr0> weekends
[31-May-2009 12:29:11] <sergeymasushko> heh... I have too complex schedule
[31-May-2009 12:30:18] <perr0> how is freebsd/zenoss coming along?
[31-May-2009 12:31:05] <perr0> I have replaced a fan on one of our servers so I am hoping to install zenoss on a new freebsd install tomorrow
[31-May-2009 13:11:19] <sergeymasushko> perr0: can you advice me, I have a weird situation. I'd like to add throughput FastEthernet 0/0 graph onto the "Perf" pages of my cisco routers. From the ethernetCsmacd template I've got 2 OIDs: 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10 and 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16. When I do snmpwalk all is ok, but graphs are not shown
[31-May-2009 13:15:59] <perr0> sergey you are running 2.4?
[31-May-2009 13:16:21] <perr0> or 2.4.1?
[31-May-2009 13:18:47] <sergeymasushko> 2.4.0
[31-May-2009 13:19:10] <sergeymasushko> should I update it?
[31-May-2009 13:19:14] <perr0> I am not sure about your problem. Maybe this might be of help
[31-May-2009 13:19:16] <perr0> http://forums.zenoss.com/viewtopic.php?t=9723&highlight=rrd+graphs
[31-May-2009 13:20:17] <perr0> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/4988
[31-May-2009 13:21:06] <perr0> I doubt it.. it states Currently the default limit for retrieving snmp table entries is 1000. If a table is large and this limit is hit, the incomplete table can cause the plugin to fail if it is not coded defensively. Of course, the data is incomplete, too.
[31-May-2009 13:23:02] <sergeymasushko> heh... I believe my zenoss isn't so big
...[31-May-2009 13:23:10] <sergeymasushko> need to check logs
[31-May-2009 13:27:53] <aleye> oouh
[31-May-2009 13:28:36] <aleye> hai please help me..i have problem with my zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:29:39] <perr0> aleye: are you sure you don't have a problem asking your question ? =]
[31-May-2009 13:30:51] <sergeymasushko> aleye: just ask your question
[31-May-2009 13:32:10] <aleye> i m not sure ..the problem is zendisc and zenmoduler
[31-May-2009 13:32:44] <aleye> maybe u want see my machine zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:32:57] <aleye> http://monev.nad.go.id:8080
[31-May-2009 13:33:11] <sergeymasushko> aleye: cay please be more specific about the problem you are experiencing ?
[31-May-2009 13:33:13] <perr0> I don't think that is necessary
[31-May-2009 13:33:56] <perr0> well we know he is using core 2.4.0
[31-May-2009 13:34:53] <sergeymasushko>
[31-May-2009 13:36:22] <aleye> dedupid 192.168.126.120|zenmodeler|/Cmd/Fail||4|Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[31-May-2009 13:36:22] <aleye> u want user and password for check my zenoss
[31-May-2009 13:36:33] <perr0> no thanks!
[31-May-2009 13:36:57] <perr0> can you tell us what is happening first?
[31-May-2009 13:37:01] <perr0> ok
[31-May-2009 13:37:03] <perr0> see it
[31-May-2009 13:37:56] <perr0> so aleye do you know that the box you are trying to model allows connections by zenoss?
[31-May-2009 13:38:04] <perr0> what is it a Windows box?
[31-May-2009 13:40:17] <aleye> this is a ip radio canopy
[31-May-2009 13:41:12] <perr0> how are you modeling the device?
[31-May-2009 13:42:48] <perr0> does this device have snmp?
[31-May-2009 13:43:53] <perr0> I experienced similar issue when my freebsd boxes refused connection to snmp but they were still modeled and added
[31-May-2009 13:44:47] <aleye> when i add new device ..like this http://pastebin.com/m53c5b2a1
[31-May-2009 13:45:51] <perr0> hmm
[31-May-2009 13:46:21] <aleye> snmpwalk -v 2c 192.168.126.104 -c Canopy is running good....but snmpwalk -v 1 is not good
[31-May-2009 13:57:10] <perr0> aleye: have you tried running the zenmodeler on the command line?
[31-May-2009 13:58:02] <perr0> increase the verbosity
[31-May-2009 14:01:24] <sergeymasushko> aleye: have you tried to restart zenhub and zenmodeler daemons?
[31-May-2009 14:02:40] <aleye> ups sorri i must go to sleep noe..oh i m from aceh u now..indonesia..nice to met u sergey and perr0...not running to..i m restart zendhub and zenmodeler and the i got same problem to..ok see u ..thanks very much
[31-May-2009 14:04:41] <sergeymasushko> aleye: you can try to enable debug on the zenmodeler daemon restart it an then look into the zenhub.log
[31-May-2009 18:30:25] <voip_troll> I'm having trouble installing gcc on machine... http://pastebin.ca/1442884
[31-May-2009 18:30:36] <voip_troll> Any help is greatly appreciated.
[31-May-2009 18:33:56] <voip_troll> hello kevin7kal
[31-May-2009 20:06:04] <voip_troll> Anyone around?
[31-May-2009 20:06:44] <perr0> tomorrow morning there will be lots more
[31-May-2009 20:06:49] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:06:56] <voip_troll> you a zenoss guru?
[31-May-2009 20:07:28] <perr0> I am a CORE user
[31-May-2009 20:08:34] <voip_troll> You know much about installing gcc with conary?
[31-May-2009 20:09:04] <perr0> no, are you having problems installing?
[31-May-2009 20:09:27] <voip_troll> yea... well, trying to install XML::Simple
[31-May-2009 20:09:59] <voip_troll> It fails because it can't find gcc, so i try to install gcc and conary can't find it... and I can't find a package that works with the rpath/conary package manager.
[31-May-2009 20:10:08] <perr0> what OS
[31-May-2009 20:10:15] <voip_troll> rpath linux
[31-May-2009 20:10:33] <voip_troll> It's running an appliance (not my choice... I just support it)
[31-May-2009 20:11:09] <perr0> sorry voip_troll I know mostly BSD
[31-May-2009 20:11:49] <perr0> have you tried the rpath cganne?
[31-May-2009 20:11:57] <perr0> channel*
[31-May-2009 20:12:08] <voip_troll> yea... i'm a linux guru (or so I thought). rpath is (in my opinion) a horrid distro.
[31-May-2009 20:12:54] <voip_troll> I can't get into rpath or conary... tells me I'm being forwarded, but nothing happens.
[31-May-2009 20:14:27] <perr0> I work with mostly enterprise Linux and that is bad enough for me, good luck. Maybe someone else here may know rpath but the traffic happens during week days
[31-May-2009 20:14:39] <sergeymasushko> perr0: hm... you are still here
[31-May-2009 20:14:47] <perr0> lol
[31-May-2009 20:15:24] <voip_troll> enterprise linux is almost as bad as rpath
[31-May-2009 20:15:30] <perr0> I went out for a few hours. You know I am trying to move up in the world and Linux/FreeBSD is my ticket to the top...
[31-May-2009 20:15:31] * voip_troll hates RHEL.
[31-May-2009 20:15:43] <perr0> that is what my work deploys
[31-May-2009 20:16:02] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:16:17] <perr0> I am working on replacing them with freebsd/Gentoo little by little
[31-May-2009 20:16:28] <voip_troll> So terrible dealing with entitlements, then someone forgets to purchase a license and you try to install something and wham you're pwnt.
[31-May-2009 20:16:37] <perr0> ya
[31-May-2009 20:17:48] <sergeymasushko> hm... what about some virtual box with well known OS?
[31-May-2009 20:19:01] <perr0> Wachu mean? I run freebsd on top of CentOS
[31-May-2009 20:19:22] <perr0> I use CentOS to get as close as I can to RHEL
[31-May-2009 20:22:16] <voip_troll> I drop centos on any machine I can... from my experience, it's by far the most supported/stable platform.
[31-May-2009 20:24:00] <perr0> ya, I am opening to it little by little
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> gah
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> 1 additional trove is needed:
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> libgcc:devellib=3.4.4-9.4-1 is required by:
[31-May-2009 20:24:57] <voip_troll> gcc:runtime=3.4.4-9.4-1
[31-May-2009 20:26:49] <perr0> is conary the package manager?
[31-May-2009 20:26:53] <voip_troll> yea
[31-May-2009 20:27:41] <perr0> how does that work
[31-May-2009 20:27:46] <voip_troll> I despise it.
[31-May-2009 20:28:01] <perr0> is it an rpm base?
[31-May-2009 20:28:08] <perr0> src?
[31-May-2009 20:28:10] <voip_troll> I'm sure if I met the guy who designed it, I'd probably break his fingers
[31-May-2009 20:28:17] <perr0> lol
[31-May-2009 20:28:24] <voip_troll> It's built by rpath... I think it's source-based.
[31-May-2009 20:28:35] <perr0> ohh
[31-May-2009 20:28:46] <perr0> I remember know
[31-May-2009 20:29:14] <perr0> never tried it but they came and bought us pizza many years ago at our local LUG meeting
[31-May-2009 20:29:21] <voip_troll> really?
[31-May-2009 20:29:33] <perr0> rpath, yep
[31-May-2009 20:29:47] <voip_troll> wow, they're that desperate for support
[31-May-2009 20:30:06] <sergeymasushko> LUG ?
[31-May-2009 20:30:22] <voip_troll> Lotsa Ugly Girlz
[31-May-2009 20:30:32] <sergeymasushko> lol
[31-May-2009 20:31:55] <perr0> usually people pend the city name to LUG thus it would be city name Linux Users Group
[31-May-2009 20:32:18] <voip_troll> oohhh
[31-May-2009 20:32:24] <voip_troll> maybe
[31-May-2009 20:33:00] <sergeymasushko>
I live in the sity LUGansk and we have a LLUG [31-May-2009 20:33:44] <perr0> ya
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