[03-Jul-2006 02:10:43] <oubiwann> probably a permissions error
[03-Jul-2006 02:12:04] <oubiwann> yeah, that was it. No logging for over half of last month and the last few days due to incorrect permissions.
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[03-Jul-2006 02:55:07] <praktikant> hello everybody :-) i still have a problem with the "Zenoss VMWare Virtual Appliance"... when I start with '$ZENHOME/bin/zendisc run --net=192.168.1.0' it runs into a keyerror, saying something about '192.168.0.0' :-( wwho is able to help?
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[03-Jul-2006 04:35:43] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 08:21:47] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 09:31:23] <aurel> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:35] <ecn> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:49] <aurel> my old name was root_ ^^
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:54] <aurel> tell me ecn
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:02] <aurel> all seems to be ok now
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:08] <aurel> how can i monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:09] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:21] <aurel> i go
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:27] <aurel> to the device i want to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:32] <aurel> click on perf
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:42] <aurel> as one of your team told me yesterday
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:51] <aurel> i wait for 10min
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:00] <aurel> but nothing appears on my screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:10] <ecn> is zenperfsnmp running?
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:23] <ecn> run:
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:27] <ecn> zenoss status
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:43] <aurel> k
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:47] <aurel> now it is running
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:20] <aurel> so now i have to go in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:26] <aurel> and wait for 10 minutes ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:51] <ecn> no, you should see a graph in there now
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:58] <ecn> no data, but you should have a graph
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[03-Jul-2006 09:40:08] <aurel> i am in /devices/discovered/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:16] <aurel> in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:21] <aurel> but blank screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:23] <aurel> :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:26] <aurel> no graph
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:38] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:49] <ecn> move dsi13 to some other category
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:54] <ecn> what kind of a device is it?
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:02] <aurel> my computer
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:04] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:05] <aurel> celeron
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:10] <aurel> windows xp
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:34] <ecn> move it to /server/windows
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:17] <ecn> You can move it using the "Manage" tab
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:29] <aurel> i made it
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:58] <aurel> sdf
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:02] <aurel> i put it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:04] <aurel> in
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:42] <ecn> now re-run collection on it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:47] <aurel> a /devices/server/windows/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:00] <ecn> Same manage tab, "Collect Configuration"
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:12] <ecn> when that completes restart zenperfsnmp:
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:21] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 09:45:47] <aurel> i got the informations
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:01] <aurel> when i clicked on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:09] <aurel> i restarted zenmperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:15] <aurel> but still nothing
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:19] <aurel> in perf :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:00] <aurel> why ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:09] <ecn> good question
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:16] <ecn> I'm trying to think of reasons why
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:28] <aurel> in collection log
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:32] <aurel> i have all the things
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:36] <aurel> good
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:59] <ecn> are there any errors in zenperfsnmp.log?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:31] <aurel> where is this file located ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:40] <ecn> $ZENHOME/log
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:41] <aurel> logsave ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:55] <aurel> i do have warning
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:00] <aurel> when i launched
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:11] <aurel> zensmpcollect
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:19] <ecn> I'm thinking
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:47] <ecn> so you don't see any warnings/errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:41] <aurel> i have no log directory
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:46] <aurel> at zenhome
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:48] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:09] <edahl> aurel:
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:15] <edahl> are you running on the vmware image?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:20] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:22] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:43] <edahl> what does echo $ZENHOME give you?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:50] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:52] <aurel> bin
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:59] <aurel> (when i do ls)
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:03] <aurel> ifconfig
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:05] <aurel> mbox
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:07] <aurel> sbin
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:10] <aurel> zenossinst
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:19] <edahl> what is the output of \
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:23] <edahl> echo $ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:46] <edahl> are you user zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <aurel> i have nothing written
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:53] <edahl> are you root?
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:12] <edahl> you need to be user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:21] <aurel> stai was user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:24] <aurel> i was
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:37] <edahl> i'm stumpped
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:51] <edahl> try running
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:53] <edahl> cdz
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:13] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:20] <edahl> cdz should take you to ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <edahl> there will be a log dir there
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:49] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:51] <aurel> edahl
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:54] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:03:28] <aurel> file seems to be blank :/
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:34] <aurel> oh no
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:39] <aurel> i have many many errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:12] <aurel> 1000 ligns for 3 %
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:39] <ecn> which file?
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:40] <aurel> zenperfsnmp.log
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:45] <aurel> but it is becayse
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:59] <aurel> it took me some time to get zenoss work correctly
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:08] <ecn> ok, move the file to a new name and restart zenperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:16] <ecn> and that will give you a fresh set of errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:12] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:16] <aurel> 2 big warnings
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:26] <aurel> but it is not on my computer
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:35] <aurel> it is for this peripherial
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:36] <aurel> HP ETHERNET MULTI-ENVIRONMENT,ROM F.08.08,JETDIRECT EX,JD40,EEPROM F.08.20
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:48] <aurel> well the ip correspond to it
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:18] <aurel> but the snmp status is down
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:24] <aurel> so i think it is normal
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:27] <aurel> ^^
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:44] <ecn> I do not know why you would not get graphs
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:06] <aurel> i put it on /Devices /server /windows
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:11] <aurel> is it correct ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:13] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:35] <ecn> have you turned snmp on in windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:50] <aurel> yep it is green nox
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:51] <aurel> now
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:04] <aurel> ping up snmp up
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:18] <ecn> then I do not know
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:29] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:41] <aurel> i only have to click on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:48] <aurel> and after zensnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:58] <aurel> and i should be able to see the graph ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:12] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:17] <ecn> it will not have performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:39] <ecn> but graphs should show up
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:21] <aurel> what is the difference between zenperfsnmp start and zenperfsnmp start
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:28] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:33] <aurel> and zenperfsnmp run ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:57] <ecn> "start" -> runs in the background forever
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:06] <ecn> "run" -> run once in the foreground
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:58] <aurel> is it possible to run or start it only for my device
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:59] <aurel> .
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:00] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:22] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device "your device name"
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:36] <ecn> zenperfsnmp help # <- shows all options
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:18] <aurel> arf
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:20] <aurel> i get
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:25] <aurel> no devices found
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:30] <aurel> keeping existing list
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:40] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:53] <aurel> but maybe i shouild tell him the path to go
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:56] <aurel> to dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:57] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:02] <ecn> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:15] <ecn> is dsi13 the device name in Zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <aurel> SNMP sysName DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:42] <aurel> Ping Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:46] <aurel> SNMP Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:07] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:46] <aurel> it worked
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <ecn> did it say something about creating files?
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <aurel> collected 1 on 1 device
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:27] <aurel> i have new mail
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:57] <aurel> zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 device in 0.13
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:26] <aurel> but still nothing in perf
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:33] <aurel> is perf really useful ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yes, yes it is
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:01] <aurel> i can t see it
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:14] <ecn> what do you see in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:14] <aurel> 40 devices
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:19] <aurel> including
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:20] <ecn> great!
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:21] <aurel> DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:38] <ecn> try looking at the interfaces:
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:56] <ecn> DSI13 -> OS tab -> click on an interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:28] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:31] <aurel> see a graph
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:34] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:54] <ecn> windows doesn't publish performance data in their SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:02] <ecn> no CPU stats
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:06] <aurel> i have installed
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:12] <aurel> snmp-informant
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:16] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:21] <ecn> then you should see that
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:29] <ecn> now i'm stumped 8-)
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:38] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:57] <ecn> perhaps stop/start snmp on windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:04] <ecn> or reboot ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:36] <aurel> you know
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:45] <aurel> it is not really important for me to see the graph
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:59] <aurel> i want the informations
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:03] <aurel> cpu usage
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:04] <aurel> memory
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:05] <aurel> disk
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:09] <aurel> etc..
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:15] <aurel> no pb
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:21] <aurel> if i get it on the interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:24] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 10:39:59] <aurel> ecn, if you could tell me how to do that
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:11] <aurel> it would be really great
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:22] <ecn> you would like to get the snmp numbers?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <aurel> i don t really understand
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <ecn> the raw snmp data?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:35] <aurel> snmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:46] <aurel> i know it is a service
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:48] <ecn> Simple Network Monitoring Protocol
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <aurel> which always monitoring
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:01] <aurel> using a comunity
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:10] <aurel> rights
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:15] <aurel> but after
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:24] <aurel> all i want to do is to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:30] <aurel> please help
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:34] <aurel> i !!m
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:18] <ecn> right now Zenoss does performance monitoring using SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:34] <ecn> if SNMP is not working for the performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <ecn> Zenoss cannot help you
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:17] <ecn> Zenoss does have some tools to monitor windows using WMI
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:35] <ecn> but that is not part of the VMWare image
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <ecn> since it requires a windows box
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:36] <aurel> in my cas
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:37] <aurel> e
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:44] <aurel> you think that performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:47] <aurel> is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:48] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:49:51] <ecn> try this to test:
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:10] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:58] <aurel> i had no error while doing it
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:07] <ecn> did it print out a number?
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:10] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:16] <ecn> that's the problem
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:23] <ecn> my results:
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:29] <ecn> UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssCpuRawUser.0 = Counter32: 158856
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:52] <ecn> snmp-informant is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:20] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <aurel> my next mission is to make it work then
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:18] <aurel> i have installed the std
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:21] <aurel> is it good N
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:58] <ecn> yes
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[04-Jul-2006 08:08:40] <MAIGAUR> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:16:10] <ecn> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:18:59] <MAIGAUR> ecn
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:08] <MAIGAUR> my old name was aurel yesterday
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:10] <MAIGAUR> so
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:12] <MAIGAUR> i have run
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:18] <MAIGAUR> the following commands
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:21] <MAIGAUR> on my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:25] <MAIGAUR> and they workds
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:28] <MAIGAUR> workes
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:30] <MAIGAUR> worked
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:39] <MAIGAUR> but i still can t do perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:53] <MAIGAUR> snmpgetnext -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:01] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:05] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.3.1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:11] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:17] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .system.sysUpTime.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:22] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -OX -c public -v 1 DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.2
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:34] <MAIGAUR> but this one doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:41] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:43] <MAIGAUR>
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:15] <ecn> right... that's the one that should be covered by snmp-informant
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:58] <ecn> well, the syntax I gave yesterday...
[04-Jul-2006 08:25:03] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:16] <MAIGAUR> damn
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:26] <MAIGAUR> but this is working for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:34] <MAIGAUR> so it is not snmp perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:47] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:50] <ecn> question:
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:04] <ecn> you don't see perf graphs for suse AND windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> that is, you don't have perf graphs for anything
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:16] <MAIGAUR> works for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:52] <ecn> ok, good
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:04] <ecn> then it is simply snmp-informant not working
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:20] <ecn> which is strange because nobody else has had a problem with it
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:26] <MAIGAUR> linux includes an equivalent to snmp-informant ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:28] <ecn> including me, and I don't know anything about windows 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:32] <MAIGAUR> lool
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:41] <ecn> yes, linux publishes those values
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <MAIGAUR> k
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:52] <ecn> windows does not, without an extension
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:11] <ecn> this is one of a million reasons why I don't know anything about windows
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:21] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:48] <MAIGAUR> i don t understand why
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:54] <MAIGAUR> performant doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:00] <ecn> me, either
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:12] <ecn> how old is your windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:37] <MAIGAUR> you think i should reinstall ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:55] <ecn> this is not my area of expertise
[04-Jul-2006 08:34:27] <ecn> it should work, and has worked for everyone else I know who has used it, so something strange is going on
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <MAIGAUR> i am happy for them
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <MAIGAUR> ^^
[04-Jul-2006 08:38:08] <MAIGAUR> snmp is working dmn
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:23] <ecn> maigaur... today is a US holiday... i'm going to go out and enjoy the sweltering heat 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:34] <MAIGAUR> ok
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:36] <MAIGAUR> no pb
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:51] <MAIGAUR> have a nice day
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[05-Jul-2006 09:55:22] <maigaur> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:32] <ecn> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:55] <maigaur> did you have a nice day yesterday ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:57] <maigaur>
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:12] <ecn> yes, very nice... thunderstorms blew through and cooled things down
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:19] <ecn> just in time for fireworks
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:47] <maigaur> oki
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:51] <maigaur> i made tests
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:56] <maigaur> for snmp-informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> on 3 different windows
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> xp
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:11] <maigaur> machines
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:22] <maigaur> snmp is always up
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <maigaur> but commands to check if informant is working never work
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:52] <maigaur>
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:00] <maigaur> when i install informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:08] <maigaur> are there anything else i have to do
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:17] <maigaur> after having read the readme file ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <ecn> try this test:
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:56] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[05-Jul-2006 10:01:35] <ecn> where hostname is your Windows box name
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[05-Jul-2006 11:08:24] <stokvis> Anyone there?
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[05-Jul-2006 11:22:04] <ecn> test test test
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[05-Jul-2006 12:31:06] <stokvis> +v
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[05-Jul-2006 14:07:16] <creiht> edahl: Is there a way to send alerts for Infrastructure issues?
[05-Jul-2006 14:08:50] <edahl> not today
[05-Jul-2006 14:09:11] <edahl> let me find the bug number I think we will get this for 0.21 which is Friday
[05-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <edahl> #159
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[05-Jul-2006 15:06:56] <zaf> is there a way to add devices from the command line, or some other batch means
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[05-Jul-2006 15:15:30] <edahl> there once was.... let me look
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:05] <edahl> the batch loading stuff looks pretty old and crunchy
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:23] <edahl> you can use Device.py's manage_createDevice
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:30] <edahl> to load devices from zendmd
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:57] <edahl> let me put a bug in for this
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:11] <edahl> bug #168
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:27] <edahl> we are planning release on Friday
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:34] <zaf> cool
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:44] <edahl> so it won't be until next release most likely
[05-Jul-2006 15:24:32] <zaf> i've got a bunch of the same model managed switch on different networks, so it's like 10.20.n.5, so it would be nice to enter the info for it once and have it fill every switch
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:26] <edahl> got it we should auto discover the model etc are they cisco?
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:49] <zaf> dell powerconnect
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:59] <edahl> hum interesting
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:34] <zaf> for auto discovering, is there a place to put in community strings to try
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:48] <edahl> yep
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:59] <edahl> zSnmpCommunities
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:11] <edahl> in /Devices
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:37] <zaf> ah, thanks
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[05-Jul-2006 18:40:57] <creiht> oubiwann: Are you around?
[05-Jul-2006 18:43:17] <oubiwann> yup
[05-Jul-2006 18:45:59] <creiht> oubiwann: Have you started work on the HTTP polling improvements yet?
[05-Jul-2006 18:46:56] <oubiwann> yeah, I've started on it. But that translates to: "I've started digging into the ZenStatus code and am exploring the best near-term solution for adding this feature"
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:05] <creiht> hehe
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:30] <b_52Free> what does zenoos have more than tools like nagions
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:31] <b_52Free> ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:34] <b_52Free> nagios
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:54] <b_52Free> zenoss sorry....
[05-Jul-2006 18:48:48] <creiht> oubiwann: Is it planned to record performance of the service polling (response time) this time aroung or is that later?
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:08] <creiht> b_52Free: I haven't really used nagios so I'm not sure
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:11] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm also going to be using divmod's Combinator tool for branch management, so what you'll be looking for won't be developed at "regular speed"
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:24] <oubiwann> since it's my first time using Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:31] <creiht> hmmm
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <creiht> What is Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <b_52Free> creiht, hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:41] <oubiwann> creiht: it's in the tracker item for this round
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:17] <oubiwann> b_52Free: the last time I used Nagios was in disgust... in 2001 I think
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:32] <oubiwann> b_52Free: that's why I started the pymon project
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:54] <creiht> hmmm Combinator looks interesting
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:59] <creiht> I need to look at that closer
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:11] <oubiwann> b_52Free: I had used it and liked it both as NetSaint and Nagios... but
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:27] <creiht> We are trying to figure out a better way to do branching with SVN here
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:32] <oubiwann> when I had to start digging and writing my own stuff, I was faced with an architecture that I did not like
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:57] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm going to be writing up procedures for using Combinator with Zenoss
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:06] <creiht> cool
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:08] <oubiwann> probably sometime in the next month or so
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:40] <b_52Free> hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:47] <oubiwann> yeah, so that will be really useful -- a contextual example that you could use as inspiration for your own stuff
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:32] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but nagios / zenoss offer the same feature ; just the way they that they are doing the work is not the same ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:52] <oubiwann> b_52Free: Zenoss and I share a very similar philosophy WRT development and architecture, and we've got some exciting things planned
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:15] <b_52Free> WRT = ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:24] <korozion> I came from a large Nagios setup, and from what I've seen, Zenoss is MUCH easier to set up initially, and MUCH easier to keep things going and up to date.
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:25] <oubiwann> b_52Free: "With Regard To"
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:35] <oubiwann> korozion: exactly
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:07] <creiht> b_52Free: Nagios also does not scale
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:09] <oubiwann> korozion: that was the biggest problem we had with Nagios: setup/configuration in a timely, consistent manner and maintenance of the software
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:34] <korozion> I just stumbled on zenoss the other day from an article in LinuxWorld. We run zope and django and lots of python. So Zenoss just fit in perfectly
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:43] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but the most atracive thing in zenoss ; it's PYTHON AND ZOPE
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:46] <oubiwann> korozion: sweet :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:51] <korozion> heh, very
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:57] <korozion> I was SO happy when I found it
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:41] <oubiwann> b_52Free: for me, the most attractive part of Zenoss is Twisted and Python ;-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:44] <korozion> I'm having dinner with Adrian Holovaty next month, I'll bring it up
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:56] <oubiwann> korozion: nice!
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:05] <korozion> yep, can't wait to meet him
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:18] <b_52Free> oubiwann, i didn't touch Twisted yet :^
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:39] <oubiwann> b_52Free: yeah, I live and breathe twisted these days :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:47] <oubiwann> b_52Free: it's my sanity
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:52] <b_52Free>
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:07] <korozion> I registered on the zenoss site, and made a note that I'd help with the Debian install side of things, looking forward to hearing back
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:30] <korozion> I'd like to jump ahead an put zenoss into production on one of my Debian servers soon
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:56] <creiht> korozion: I installed on Ubuntu with no problems
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:01] <korozion> nice
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:04] <creiht> Someone was working on making an Ubuntu package
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:11] <creiht> I'm not sure what happened to that
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:15] <oubiwann> creiht: yeah, I think that was Spec
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:16] <korozion> I'm sure it's easy, but I read something about needing certification of the install or something
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:20] <oubiwann> haven't heard from him in a while
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:27] <korozion> hell, I'll document everything I do, and build a deb if need be
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:43] <oubiwann> korozion: that'd be great
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:16] <korozion> great, I'll keep you updated. bbiab
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:24] <oubiwann> I was hoping Spec would continue, because he was talking about breaking out Zenoss into individual packages, based on dependency
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:32] <creiht> Yeah
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:36] <oubiwann> and I think that's a great direction to move in
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[06-Jul-2006 03:17:48] <stokvis> is anyone there?
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[06-Jul-2006 04:21:52] <koroded> heya, it'
[06-Jul-2006 04:22:05] <koroded> it's korozion. No need to panic
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[06-Jul-2006 14:08:27] <deezthugs> i am evaluating zenoss for deployment at work and was wondering if any unit testing is being done during development? I notice test directories but they seem to contain some informal functional tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:09:55] <ecn> testing is lagging at this time
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <ecn> we know it needs to be fixed
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:16] <ecn> the software is used every day in an operational way
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:23] <deezthugs> ok. any plans to use a harness and UnitTest or nose or py.test?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:43] <ecn> I don't know what harness will be used
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:45] <deezthugs> or mock objects, etc?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:50] <deezthugs> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:51] <deezthugs> cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:58] <ecn> I think that's less important than just sitting down and pounding out tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:07] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:26] <deezthugs> py.test and nose do not require any special classes to bewritten, just functions
[06-Jul-2006 14:24:33] <creiht> Does anyone have any experience pulling SNMP information from DELL DRAC cards?
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:18] <ecn> ya, I think Erik does
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:28] <ecn> which is why there's a /server/linux/dell category
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:32] <creiht> Ahhh cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:36] <creiht> I need to poke him
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:39] <ecn> but that's a guess
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:50] <ecn> he's at a customer site today
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:57] <creiht> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:26:27] <ecn> if you have the Mib and can snmp walk it, you can probably do a template yourself
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:03] <creiht> Cool... I wanted to see if anyone has any experience with it
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:13] <creiht> I need to get a DRAC installed on our box first
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[06-Jul-2006 16:28:54] <deezthugs> i finally got zenoss running on os x, but I cannot actually log in to zenoss or view the /zport/dmd screen... i think some configuration must have failed after this:
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Restoring backup
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Starting Zope Object Database
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . . Unlinking stale socket /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.zdsock; sleep 1
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . daemon process started, pid=5792
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> Migrating data
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:58] <deezthugs> Data migration failed
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:15] <deezthugs> is there a way to start that install over from this point?
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:20] <ecn> yep
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:24] <ecn> delete $ZENHOME
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:54] <deezthugs> oh so i have to start over from scratch?
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:00] <ecn> make sure zope and friends are not running
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:15] <ecn> kill anything that looks like python and "z"-something
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:25] <ecn> no, it's all built in the build directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:29] <ecn> just not installed
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:33] <ecn> it will go much quicker
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:53] <deezthugs> nice
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:55] <deezthugs> thx
[06-Jul-2006 16:31:39] <ecn> that's not to say it isn't time to get some coffee
[06-Jul-2006 16:33:16] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:00] <deezthugs> btw: zenoss seems to build and run everything ok if you build python from source on an intel mac
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:32] <deezthugs> MacPython seems to be no good with zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:12] <Nitros> you probably got further than i did with my zenoss on ubuntu
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:43] <deezthugs> it all installed but died during data migration. i dont know why i said yes
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:35] <Nitros> does anyone know of a hold-your-hand faq for ubuntu?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <Nitros> [on installing zenoss]?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <amodlin> what kind of FAQ
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:56] <amodlin> I can help you out on that, I did that a few weeks ago
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:11] <Nitros> sweet. i'm starting off with a blank dapper server box
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:20] <amodlin> ok, one sec
[06-Jul-2006 16:41:34] <amodlin> first things to check are do you have current versions of python/mysql/gcc and python-devel, mysql-server
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:03] <amodlin> if not, you need to get updated versions from the repository
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:13] <Nitros> converted into ubuntu-speak, that would be build-essential, python-2.4, mysql5-blah-blah
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <amodlin> yes i believe so
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <Nitros> yeah, my repository is up2date
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:30] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:44] <amodlin> have you configured mysql yet?
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:02] <Nitros> yes, i already have a zenoss user and database, login and password waiting on it
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:14] <Nitros> user in mysql that is
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:30] <Nitros> i ran the install.sh script ...
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[06-Jul-2006 16:44:51] <amodlin> ah, and something exploded?
[06-Jul-2006 16:45:00] <Nitros> and it is trying to untar CMF-1.5.6 and its getting no such file or directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:46:16] <amodlin> Hm, I've never seen that problem and I'm not the install guy, if you want I can have them send you an email when they get a chance to look at your problem
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:48] <Nitros> that's cool, could you describe the steps you did to install it, maybe i missed something
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:57] <Nitros> packages - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:48:01] <Nitros> configure mysql - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:50:49] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:09] <amodlin> I'll definately let them know, can I get your email to send to them?
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:22] <Nitros> redhatnick@gmail.com
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:32] <ecn> you could CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:37] <ecn> that is:
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:44] <ecn> CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:05] <ecn> and the install.sh/GNUmakefile should find it in there
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:13] <ecn> make sure ZENHOME is set
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:56] <Nitros> i have ZENHOME set to /usr/local/zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:53:20] <ecn> the install script is pretty good about checking the env vars now
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:24] <Nitros> http://blueheron.livejournal.com/145996.html
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:28] <Nitros> do you think that is a good guide?
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:41] <adytum-bot> Title: blueheron: Zenoss (at blueheron.livejournal.com)
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:05] <Nitros> good bot. good bot.
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:16] * Nitros throws the bot a bone.
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[07-Jul-2006 03:16:50] <stokvis> anyone there?
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[07-Jul-2006 04:49:14] <stokvis> Anyone there? :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:01:08] <oubiwann> yup
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:30] <stokvis> great
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:49] <stokvis> I have been trying for a few days now to get this working :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:12:05] <stokvis> shows you how bad I am
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[07-Jul-2006 05:33:12] <oubiwann> stokvis: heh, no prob :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:36] <stokvis> I have a problem installing zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:42] <stokvis> can I discuss this here?
[07-Jul-2006 05:38:23] <maigaur_> yes you can
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:27] <stokvis> I get an error when I run install.sh
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:45] <stokvis> just after the command installing zope
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:33] <stokvis> I looked in the zenbuild.log
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:36] <stokvis> and found this
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:38] <stokvis> error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
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[07-Jul-2006 05:58:45] <maigaur_> i think you have to choose
[07-Jul-2006 05:58:48] <maigaur_> home
[07-Jul-2006 05:59:26] <stokvis> where would I set this option?
[07-Jul-2006 06:00:03] <stokvis> or do I haver to do it when running install.sh /home=
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[07-Jul-2006 06:24:05] <oubiwann> stokvis: what is the exact command you are using to install zenoss?
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:15] <oubiwann> stokvis: are you just typeing
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:19] <oubiwann> "install.sh"
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:25] <oubiwann> or something else, too?
[07-Jul-2006 06:31:28] <stokvis> no just ./install.sh
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[07-Jul-2006 07:57:09] <maigaur_> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:57:15] <ecn> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:39] <maigaur_> ecn, I still have the same problem
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:40] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:46] <maigaur_> do you know
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:51] <maigaur_> if there are other things
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> to do when snmp informant is installe
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> d
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <maigaur_> to configure it or whatever
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <ecn> no, I'm sorry I don't
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:31] <ecn> Like I said, I have installed it exactly once and it worked right away
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:49] <maigaur_> which version are you using ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:05] <maigaur_> i have windows sp service pack 2
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:17] <maigaur_> maybe i need another version of snmp-informant
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:58] <ecn> I am also running windows xp sp2
[07-Jul-2006 08:02:59] <ecn> did you try this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:01] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:40] <maigaur_> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 = Gauge32: 0
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:45] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:48] <ecn> that's good
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:07] <maigaur_> but that s not informant you told me, right ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:18] <ecn> is your windows box organized under /servers/windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:19] <ecn> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:30] <maigaur_> i have a suse box in fact
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:32] <maigaur_> :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:34] <ecn> actually, I think that is what informant publishes
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:41] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:53] <maigaur_> but you know, i have a suse bo
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:54] <maigaur_> w
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:55] <maigaur_> x
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <ecn> you have 2 machines, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:16] <ecn> one that is windows: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:17] <maigaur_> yep
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <maigaur_> one on linux
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <ecn> one that is suse: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:25] <maigaur_> with zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:30] <maigaur_> the other with windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:38] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:44] <maigaur_> and snmp-informant (normally) installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:49] <ecn> is the windows server organized under /servers/windows?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:03] <ecn> you can change it with the manage tab when you view the device
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:15] <maigaur_> the server is the computer with snmp-informant installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:16] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:43] <maigaur_> if yes, he is in it
[07-Jul-2006 08:08:13] <ecn> the suse box is organized under /servers/linux, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:12] <maigaur_> windows server in /Devices /servers /windows /DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:24] <ecn> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:46] <maigaur_> suse on /Devices /servers /linux /zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:23] <maigaur_> i have to do collect configuration
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:37] <maigaur_> and after zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:43] <maigaur_> restart ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:07] <ecn> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:20] <ecn> just restart zenperfsnmp to make sure it's reading the current setup
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:40] <ecn> and look for errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:04] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:26] <ecn> tail -f $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log &
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:41] <ecn> any errors?
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:39 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x01\xbd\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8dr0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xea=h0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc40\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> \x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x15\x9c0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x970\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:44 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x02`\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8f\xac0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xeaC\xca0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc50\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:39] <maigaur_> x01\x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x16r0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x980\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:49] <maigaur_> but it is not for my ip
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:54] <maigaur_> for another computer
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:59] <maigaur_> for mine no erri
[07-Jul-2006 08:26:01] <maigaur_> error
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[07-Jul-2006 08:27:51] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> when you look at DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:18] <maigaur_> i restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:26] <maigaur_> zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:37] <ecn> you see graphs for your interfaces, but not for performance, still?
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:02] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:04] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device DSI2
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:06] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417A607.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F331.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:10] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417396A.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:12] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064189020.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:15] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 34 of 47 devices in 24.67
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:17] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806419F614.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:19] <maigaur_> new errors
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <maigaur_> but still not for mine :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:25] <ecn> right
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:45] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <ecn> those are boxes not running snmp, or for which you do not have a community string, or are behind firewalls
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:01] <maigaur_> for interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:05] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:07] <maigaur_> but
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:10] <maigaur_> it is strange
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:14] <maigaur_> it is a vertical bar
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:17] <maigaur_> green
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:21] <ecn> 8-)
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:30] <ecn> way over on the right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <maigaur_> correct
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:56] <ecn> good!
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:09] <ecn> that's the current value
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:32] <ecn> it will fill right to left
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:36] <ecn> as time goes on
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:56] <maigaur_> but thas has nothing to do with snmp informant
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:19] <ecn> you are looking at the interface graphs or the performance graph?
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:28] <maigaur_> interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:31] <maigaur_> is working
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:37] <maigaur_> perf not
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:38] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:43] <ecn> no graphs under perf?
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:24] <ecn> try running this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:30] <maigaur_> don t know why snmp informant doesn t work for me
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:35] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13 -v 10
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Updated snmpCycleInterval config to 60
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Gathering performance data for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Configured 1 devices
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:received config for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:getting device ping issues
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Unresponsive devices: []
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:17] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 devices in 0.11
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:19] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Sent 7 SNMP OID requests
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:44] <ecn> that's perfect
[07-Jul-2006 08:35:05] <maigaur_> perf ect ^^
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:15] <ecn> I think it should have asked for more OIDs than it did
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:30] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:47] <ecn> a scan of my linux box asks for 34 OIDs
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:01] <ecn> but I presently have 5 or 6 network interfaces
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:24] <maigaur_> lol
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:27] <ecn> I don't have a windows box to mess with right now, but I'll be booting over to The Dark Side in a little while
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:40] <maigaur_> loooooooolk
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <ecn> just don't tell anyone
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:52] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <maigaur_> no b
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:55] <maigaur_> pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:27] <maigaur_> on my suse box
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:35] <maigaur_> it also returned me 7 oid
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:45] <maigaur_> it is almost the same machine
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:48] <maigaur_> i think it is good
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:54] <maigaur_> but you know
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:15] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:26] <ecn> ya, that was wrong
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:31] <maigaur_> and snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory is not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:39] <ecn> snmp-informant publishes under a different OID
[07-Jul-2006 08:40:23] <maigaur_> okio
[07-Jul-2006 08:41:14] <ecn> if you look at the templates you can see the OID values being used for each category
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[07-Jul-2006 08:44:16] <maigaur_> where are the templates please ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:10] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:36] <ecn> PerfConf tab
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:54] <maigaur_> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:55] <maigaur_> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:09] <maigaur_> sysUpTime
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:55] <maigaur_> type gauge
[07-Jul-2006 08:50:09] <maigaur_> damn why is it not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:07] <ecn> will you be online much longer?
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:14] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <ecn> I have some customer issues to look into
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <maigaur_> for 2 hours
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:24] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:26] <maigaur_> no pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:30] <ecn> then I will boot to windows and will have more things to compare
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:37] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:54:08] <maigaur_> this is drving me crazy, i just can't sleep
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[07-Jul-2006 10:04:44] <maigaur_> ecn, tell me when you have rebooted
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[07-Jul-2006 11:14:02] <zaf> we still expecting a new version today?
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[07-Jul-2006 11:15:29] <ecn> yes, that's the plan
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[07-Jul-2006 11:27:35] <ecn> zaf is prolly gonna turn blue
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:05] * creiht laughs
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:09] <creiht> edahl!
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:43] <creiht> edahl: Do you have any experience monitoring Dell machines through a DRAC?
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:58] <edahl> we were just working on that at a client site yesterday
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:06] <creiht> cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:18] <edahl> new trap stuff processes traps from the DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:24] <creiht> Very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:41] <creiht> I need to set traps for RAID problems
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:34] <creiht> I'm really looking forward to the new version
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <zaf> you can get all that from the drac interface?
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <creiht> It should open up a lot of new possibilities for us
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:48] <edahl> traps and process monitoring are very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:53] <creiht> Theoretically yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:08] <zaf> ooh, i thought it was just for console type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:10] <zaf> nice
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:38] <edahl> we had some issues finding the mibs for the DRAC (its not in the current version of OpenManage)
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:40] <creiht> With the Dell Open Manage software you can have the DRAC send SNMP traps for all sorts of stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:15] <zaf> and it comes from the ip of the drac, and not the regular ethernet?
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:43] <creiht> zaf: I believe so... The DRAC has its own nic
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:08] <edahl> yes from the DRAC ip
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:20] <edahl> we have DRACS in as separate devices
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:41] <zaf> yeah, i've been trying to figure out where to put them, heh
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:55] <edahl> we made a new device class
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:08] <edahl> /Server/Manager
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:15] <edahl> or something like that
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:22] <edahl> maybe /Server/DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:40:02] * zaf resumes holding his breath
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:29] <mooey> howdy
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:41] <mooey> i have some questions about zenoss, and now seems like a suitable time to ask them ^_^
[07-Jul-2006 11:43:50] <mooey> we have a bunch of dell poweredge servers, which i understand i can monitor with zenoss. can zenoss obtain and generate bandwidth graphs for ports on a dell switch, and can it obtain and generate graphs for things like temperature of a poweredge?
[07-Jul-2006 11:45:22] <zaf> i've got it running on some dell powerconnect 3424s and 3448s. it pulls traffic from the interfaces. i think i need to do more tweaking on it though
[07-Jul-2006 11:46:54] <mooey> hm o_O what about temperatures and such forth, do i need to install an smnp server on the machines or does openmanage do that?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:16] <zaf> does it have a drac?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:29] <mooey> nah
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:39] <creiht> mooey: Are they running Windows or Linux?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:44] <mooey> a mixture :}
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:53] <edahl> does dell mib publish temp?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:54] <mooey> mostly windows tho
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:20] <mooey> i'm not sure. temperature was just an example, things like cpu / memory usage is whats most important
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:44] <mooey> im just trying to understand exactly what zenoss really is, and what information it can report from dell machines with openmanage
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:48] <edahl> install free agent from snmp-informant.com for windows cpu/memory
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:00] <edahl> on linux run net-snmp
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:24] <mooey> we have that already on the linux machines
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:27] <creiht> mooey: snmp-informant.com also has a motherboard monitor agent that can pull CPU temperature, but I have not used it
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:35] <edahl> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:36] <edahl> dell has lots of type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:15] <mooey> does openmanage expose them?
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:21] <mooey> excuse my ignorance
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:07] <edahl> yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:21] <mooey> excellent
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:28] <mooey> thank you all =) i will go have a play
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:47] <mooey> the vmware player demo thingy... thats sweet
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <mooey> really useful
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <edahl> take a look at that link
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:57] <edahl> cool
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[10-Jul-2006 06:12:09] <deflowjo> hello
[10-Jul-2006 06:14:25] <deflowjo> help:i've just installed zenoss 0.20.1 on vmware desktop, it doesn't discover devices
[10-Jul-2006 06:15:25] <deflowjo> failed to parse host unreachable packet; any idea?
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[10-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <maigaur_> ecn anhello
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[10-Jul-2006 08:38:53] <maigaur_> hell
[10-Jul-2006 08:38:55] <maigaur_> o
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[10-Jul-2006 08:41:24] <ecn> hello
[10-Jul-2006 08:41:38] <ecn> sorry about friday: we were very busy with the release
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:02] <maigaur_> no pb
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:38] <maigaur_> so
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:43] <maigaur_> the following commands
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:47] <maigaur_> work on my pc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:08] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:10] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:59] <maigaur_> when i do collect configuration i have
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:05] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:07] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:09] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:11] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:14] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:17] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:19] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:21] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:23] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:25] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:27] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:31] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:33] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:35] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:37] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:39] <maigaur_> :/
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:15] <maigaur_> those don't
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
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[10-Jul-2006 09:05:12] <maigaur_> ecn are you still there ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:00:02] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:08] <maigaur> are you back ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:10] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:16] <maigaur> to help me a little
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:34] <maigaur> if you don t have time no problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:19] <ecn> sorry... got some monday problems
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:28] <ecn> should never make a release on a friday 8-)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:04:32] <maigaur> lool
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <maigaur> so
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:50] <maigaur> on my windows box
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:52] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:55] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:57] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:59] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:03] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:04] <maigaur> this is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:07] <maigaur> but not this
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[10-Jul-2006 10:05:09] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:11] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:13] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:15] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:34] <maigaur> also
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .get
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> SNMPv2-MIB::snmpInGetResponses.0 = Counter32: 0
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrProcessorFrwID.768 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::zeroDotZero
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:46] <maigaur> i think this is my problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:52] <maigaur> localhost is the suse box
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:57] <maigaur> dsi13
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:00] <maigaur> windows server
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:05] <maigaur> you see it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:19] <maigaur> don"t know if it comes from snmp-informant
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:20] <maigaur> or npt
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:21] <ecn> try this:
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:41] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0
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[10-Jul-2006 10:10:22] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0 = INTEGER: 522228 KBytes
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:29] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:43] <ecn> that means your snmp-informat is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:49] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:16] <ecn> try to delete and add the device in zenoss
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:33] <ecn> (Manage tab to delete)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <creiht> ecn: How much do you know about the ping monitoring?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:26:01] <ecn> I did the last re-write
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:15] <creiht> I'm runing .20 and I got some alerts last night, that some devices were down
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:25] <creiht> When I look at the events, there is just one ping event
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:34] <ecn> count = 1?
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:37] <creiht> And I can ping the devices now fine from the server
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:38] <creiht> yes
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:44] <ecn> ya... known problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> I moved one of them to the history, and it is fine
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> ahhh
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:35] <creiht> Is there a known fix?
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:46] <ecn> it's in the latest
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:55] <ecn> let me find the patch for you
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:16] <creiht> oh cool...l I just noticed that .21 was released
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:19] <creiht> is the fix in there?
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:26] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:43] <ecn> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/1801
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:47] <creiht> ok I plan on looking at that today
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:48] <creiht> cool
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <creiht> I want to migrate to that as soon as possible anyway
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <adytum-bot> Title: [1801] - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:17] <ecn> stupid 'bot
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:37] <ecn> this release has process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:50] <ecn> so you can track cpu & memory for individual processes
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:56] <creiht> Yes... I'm very excited about this release
[10-Jul-2006 10:31:04] <ecn> tell all your friends
[10-Jul-2006 10:32:07] <creiht> hehe
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[10-Jul-2006 10:38:09] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:15] <maigaur> i have deleted
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:20] <maigaur> how can i add it
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:22] <maigaur> fastly
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:26] <ecn> Add Device
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:28] <ecn> on the left
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:32] <ecn> of the main page
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:42] <ecn> give it the IP addr of the machine as it's name
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:47] <ecn> it will discover it's real name
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:55] <maigaur> i made
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:00] <maigaur> collect configuration
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:12] <maigaur> and put it back to /devices/servers/windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:20] <maigaur> do i have to restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:22] <maigaur> zenperf
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:46] <ecn> no, but it doesn't hurt... but first, run "collect configuration" again now that you've moved it to /Servers/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:22] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:50] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:54] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:56] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:05] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:10] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:12] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:14] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:16] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:18] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:20] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:22] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:24] <maigaur> i have also
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:26] <maigaur> seen that for dell computers
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:28] <maigaur> there are special files
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:31] <maigaur> that can be interesting
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:52] <maigaur> do you think my collect configuration is good ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:58] <ecn> looks good
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:04] <ecn> now restart zenperfsnmp
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:18] <maigaur> zenperfsnmp restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:20] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:45:16] <maigaur> i made it
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:01] <ecn> check out perf
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:05] <ecn> see if the graphs are there
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:14] <maigaur> nothing
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:17] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:30] <maigaur> this doesn t work
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:37] <ecn> you see no graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:45] <maigaur> no graphs
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:46] <maigaur> :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:50] <ecn> or you see no labels for non-existent graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:56] <maigaur> i show you a screen capture
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:00] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:01] <maigaur> if you want
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:08] <maigaur> give me a mail adress
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:13] <ecn> ecn at swcomplete dot com
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <creiht> ecn: I'm also getting the following error in my zenperfsnmp.log:
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:13] <creiht> 2006-07-10 09:42:24 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: xmlrpclib.Fault, <Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: Products.ZCTextIndex.ParseTree.ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, '(' found">
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:17] <creiht> ]
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:34] <creiht> Do you have any idea what would be causing that?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:49:26] <ecn> check your etc/zenperfsnmp.conf file for good username/password
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:18] <maigaur> mail sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:33] <creiht> ecn: That's fine... I'm still getting snmp performance data
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:49] <creiht> ecn: The ping issue had me looking at the logs
[10-Jul-2006 10:51:01] <creiht> And I noticed the message after each run
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:03] <ecn> do you see it once every config cycle, or only at shutdown?
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> Right before I get this line:
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: collected 39 of 40 devices in 11.99
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:30] <creiht> Every cycle
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:17] <ecn> maigaur:
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:31] <ecn> ok... I noticed something very strange about the screen capture you sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:50] <ecn> your device is under "/Devices/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:57] <ecn> on my computer they are under:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:06] <ecn> "/Devices/Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <ecn> see the difference in capitalization?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:22] <maigaur> it is case sensitive ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:32] <ecn> that's the thing:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:43] <ecn> you should not have a "/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:59] <ecn> You should have the built-in "/Servers/Windows" only
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:22] <ecn> if I was you, I would drop your whole config and re-install
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:25] <ecn> this is very strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:42] <ecn> bonus: there's a new release!
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:57] <maigaur> now on /Devices /Servers /Windows /DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:06] <ecn> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:08] <maigaur> no graphs :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:15] <ecn> do you see graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:46] <ecn> what do you seen in log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F020.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806416C683.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BAA29.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:03] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064112385.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:07] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BE323.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:08] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806414286F.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:11] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:13] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:15] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064186F42.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:19] <maigaur> but it is not
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:21] <maigaur> on my device you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:23] <maigaur> dsi13 is mine
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:50] <ecn> I don't know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:54] <ecn> what the problem can be
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:55] <maigaur> i sent you a second screen capture by the way
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[10-Jul-2006 11:01:33] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:36] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:44] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:47] <ecn> ok...
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:49] <maigaur> not working :/
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:54] <ecn> something is wrong with your config
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:01] <ecn> because it is not trying to show you performance data
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:08] <ecn> for Server/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:37] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:43] <ecn> That is, it is presently not configured to collect performance data for anything in the class "Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:55] <ecn> somehow you have lost that built-in configuration
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:02] <maigaur> maybe
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:08] <maigaur> i don t know
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:13] <maigaur> how i have done that
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:25] <ecn> perhaps it never loaded properly on install?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:51] <maigaur> when I installed zenoss you mean ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:54] <ecn> yes
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:04] <maigaur> how can i see that
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:10] <maigaur> you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:14] <maigaur> i have vmware server
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:19] <ecn> zenbuild.log may have errors in it
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:47] <maigaur> and vmare client running on a suse box
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:59] <maigaur> after
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:01] <maigaur> i launch
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:03] <maigaur> zenoss iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:05] <maigaur> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:11] <maigaur> and then
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:23] <maigaur> zenodisc --run netwoek
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:25] <ecn> oh, right
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:30] <ecn> you are running the VM iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:31] <ecn> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:35] <maigaur> yep
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:36] <ecn> you didn't install it
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:40] <maigaur> no
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:54] <ecn> oh, well, then there's a new VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:06:45] <maigaur> ah yes ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:22] <maigaur> can you tell me where to download it please ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:59] <ecn> <a href="http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip">http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip</a>
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:33] <maigaur> oki
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:38] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:47] <maigaur> that may solve my problem ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:13] <ecn> I hope so
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:30] <ecn> it will be a better place to start
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:38] <ecn> for me to fix it from here 8-)
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:51] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:54] <maigaur> i believe you
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:56] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:50] <maigaur> but you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:55] <maigaur> my windows server is working ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:02] <maigaur> why isn"t it collecting
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:03] <maigaur> perf
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:05] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:12:52] <ecn> somehow you have lost the configuration at the level /Server/Windows that tells it what OIDs to collect and how to graph them
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:17] <maigaur> how is it possibl
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:19] <maigaur> e
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:28] <maigaur> how is the website built ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:25:40] <ecn> I don't know how it could have happend
[10-Jul-2006 11:26:01] <ecn> it was not that way in the original VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:27:02] <ecn> (I'm checking that right now)
[10-Jul-2006 11:31:30] <ecn> nope, it's all good in the original image
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[10-Jul-2006 11:54:41] <creiht> edahl: So I'm trying out the new process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:18] <creiht> If I add the process in Processes, should it automatically detect the process running on any devices that I have, or do I need to do something else?
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:55] <edahl> you need to run a model pass on the device to be monitored
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:03] <creiht> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:08] <edahl> regex of process must match target
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:58] <creiht> hey that is pretty cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> I just did something very simple for my first test
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> httpd
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:53] <creiht> wow that looks very cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:59:51] <creiht> ok now for SNMP traps
[10-Jul-2006 12:00:11] <creiht> Do I need to send ZenOSS a test trap first?
[10-Jul-2006 12:04:35] <ecn> yes, that's the easiest way
[10-Jul-2006 12:10:09] <creiht> cool... I'll have to try that later
[10-Jul-2006 12:18:03] <creiht> ecn or edahl: So for the process monitoring, if I am monitoring something like httpd which will be multiple processes, is the memory and cpu usage the total across all the processes, or is it something else?
[10-Jul-2006 12:26:58] <ecn> it's something else
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:11] <ecn> you have a choice: monitor a single process' cpu & mem
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:19] <ecn> or monitor the count of processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:29:39] <creiht> oh
[10-Jul-2006 12:30:13] <creiht> What if I want to see how much memory and cpu all the processes are using?
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[10-Jul-2006 12:36:08] <ecn> ya, I know
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:47] <ecn> SNMP publishes the cpu/memory for each process
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:50] <ecn> which is good
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:04] <ecn> so we dynamically detect the processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:16] <ecn> and then set up RRD files for the process, by name
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:29] <ecn> we would have to track the stats by process ID
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:33] <ecn> and those are dynamic
[10-Jul-2006 12:38:02] <ecn> we can't get a total value for all the devices to store just that
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[10-Jul-2006 12:53:09] <creiht> hmm
[10-Jul-2006 12:57:37] <creiht> That is a bit of a difficult problem to solve
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[10-Jul-2006 16:40:27] <creiht> edahl: General question... Given the following hypothetical situation:
[10-Jul-2006 16:40:58] <creiht> 1. I were to use zenoss to discover a network that included several routers and switches and servers
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:31] <creiht> If a router goes down, would Zenoss be smart enough to alert me that the router is down, and not spam me with all the devices that are down behind it?
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:58] <edahl> yes it should
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <edahl> assuming that your net layout is sane
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <creiht> hmmm
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:17] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:20] <edahl>
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:24] <creiht> It should be mostly sane
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:40] <edahl> some people put all routers on one vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:45] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:00] <edahl> I think this messes us up... I haven't done extensive testing with this setup
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:10] <creiht> I don't think we do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:22] <edahl> can you test?
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:39] <creiht> I dunno... I have someone here poking me for some information
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:55] <creiht> Let me figure out where they are going
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:40] <creiht> I think we have networks set up where there are two routers (1 primary and 1 secondary) per vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:42] <edahl> cool
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:45] <creiht> For the most part
[10-Jul-2006 16:47:38] <creiht> edahl: And for a totally off the wall question... What do you guys use for IP space management?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:10] <edahl> hum what do you mean?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:28] <edahl> we can ping sweep a net and list the free ips etc
[10-Jul-2006 16:49:31] <creiht> Well I'm talking more about managing IP blocks allocated from ARIN, sending justification reports to ARIN, managing which IP's get assigned to which devices, etc.
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:11] <edahl> we should be able to do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:27] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting maybe we should setup another phone conversation?
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:32] <edahl> I'm pretty free tomorrow
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:44] <creiht> hehe... well... I wasn't expecting it to be in the ZenOSS domain... was wondering what you have used personall for that type of thing
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:59] <edahl> ok
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:05] <edahl> well I think we can do it
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:08] <edahl>
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:28] <creiht> For example Cisco makes this:
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:56] <creiht> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/netmgtsw/ps1982/products_data_sheet0900aecd803f1ae8.html
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:04] <edahl> cool I will take a look
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:10] <edahl> let's talk more tomorrow
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[11-Jul-2006 08:58:51] <jaclu> Helo I have been trying out zenoss for some time. Now I am looking into more of the features and am a bit surprised, the Software/Hardware tabs dont have any "add" option, and for neither I cant find any docs except for in Admin Guide 6.8.3,6.8.4 and they dont say anything on how to use this feature
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[11-Jul-2006 09:09:21] <jaclu> is there any gui to enter soft/hard-ware entries, or must it be done directly in zope?
[11-Jul-2006 09:10:21] <edahl> zope is the GUI
[11-Jul-2006 09:11:55] <jaclu> Yes I now
What I ment was if there was any place in the zenoss pages, adding stuff directly in the zope manage gui isnt very apropriate for non techies
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[11-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <jaclu> Of course I guess I could hack a few forms for this, but it surprises me that this isnt already in there somewhere, somebody has after all taken the time to add the hard/soft-ware feature
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:13] <edahl> wait maybe I misunderstood there is a GUI that we make different from ZMI there is no need to see that
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:53] <edahl> http://yourbox:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addDevice
[11-Jul-2006 09:15:07] <zaf> jaclu, it's in the add device page
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[11-Jul-2006 09:16:34] <jaclu> Yes and no I have seen that instance, but that form only gives one software/device, my plan was to use the software feature to try to keep an inventory off installed software, so I will need multiple Software entries per device
[11-Jul-2006 09:18:35] <edahl> software is auto-discovered
[11-Jul-2006 09:18:45] <edahl> shouldn't need to manually add it
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[11-Jul-2006 09:20:35] <jaclu> Well it hasnt auto-discovered for me Are you using the running-apps list from snmp, if so how do you guess versions? Also not all comercial software is running all the time. so snmp doesnt seem to be a suitable way to detect.
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[11-Jul-2006 09:24:10] <ecn> yes, it is using the process list from snmp
[11-Jul-2006 09:24:36] <ecn> the intent of software monitoring was to watch programs that should always be running (like a database or web server)
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:33] <ecn> (err.. process monitoring... not software monitoring)
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:44] <edahl> we get software installed on the box
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:58] <edahl> by using HRSWInstalled section of HOST-RESOURCES-MIB
[11-Jul-2006 09:27:13] <edahl> on Linux this gives list of rpms installed
[11-Jul-2006 09:28:11] <edahl> redhat that is
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:35] <maigaur> ecn ?
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:38] <maigaur> hello
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:48] <ecn> hey
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:57] <maigaur> with the new version
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:20] <maigaur> perf is working
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:22] <maigaur> but basic
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:27] <jaclu> ok, but that doesnt solve comercial apps installed on win-servers, since somebody entered 319 entries under /Manufacturers/Microsoft,,,
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:27] <maigaur> commands don t
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:30] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:35] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:37] <maigaur> ;(
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:39] <maigaur> out
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:45] <maigaur> but manually it works
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:54] <maigaur> using add in management tab
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:59] <edahl> jaclu: we should get list of installed sw on windows
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:01] <maigaur> i am happy to see the graphs
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:35] <edahl> the entries in /Manufacturers/WIndows
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:40] <edahl> where auto-discovered
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:47] <edahl> when something new comes in
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:53] <ecn> maigaur: I don't understand "basic commands dont't work"
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:00] <maigaur> i can t do
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:01] <ecn> can you provide an example?
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:03] <maigaur> zendisc
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:06] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:09] <maigaur> not working
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:10] <edahl> it gets placed in /Unknown
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:14] <maigaur> it crashes
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:18] <maigaur> don t recognize
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:22] <maigaur> my devices
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:23] <edahl> then you can move to proper Manufacturer
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:26] <maigaur> as it did before
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:32] <ecn> ok, can you email me the data you get that tells you that it crashed?
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:38] <maigaur> mm
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:41] <maigaur> ok
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:49] <maigaur> he is searching
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:52] <maigaur> for 30minutes
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:00] <maigaur> for a network 192.168.0.0
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:03] <maigaur> not existing
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:06] <maigaur> and can t find
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:09] <maigaur> my existing
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[11-Jul-2006 09:33:12] <maigaur> 172.29.1.0
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:14] <maigaur> :/
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:26] <Duf> hello, i am having trouble installing zenoss on a SuSE server
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:37] <Duf> the python build environment cannot be founbd
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:39] <Duf> *found
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:45] <Duf> if anyone can help, please message me
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:58] <ecn> Duf: you need the python development environment 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:08] <ecn> further, you need to build python yourself on suse 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:31] <ecn> I dunno what they did to python on SuSE, but it needs a plain python install
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:39] <maigaur> duf i can help
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:44] <maigaur> i have just made it work
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:03] <maigaur> what i did
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:06] <maigaur> i installed
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:07] <Duf> i have python 2.4
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:09] <maigaur> apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:10] <Duf> in my /usr/bin
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:21] <maigaur> and then apt-get install python
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:25] <maigaur> and it worked
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:37] <maigaur> yes
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:42] <maigaur> python 2.4 for me too
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:48] <maigaur> but there are dependencies
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:52] <Duf> cool, i'm going to try
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:26] <Duf> cannot find apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:29] <maigaur> wait
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:33] <Duf> in the software available for installation
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:58] <maigaur> go to http://linux01.gwdg.de/~scorot
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /~scorot (at linux01.gwdg.de)
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:59] <maigaur> then
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:27] <maigaur> get this one
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:28] <maigaur> install-apt4suse-0.2.5-1.noarch.rpm
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:33] <maigaur> after install it
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:38] <maigaur> you will be able to use
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:47] <maigaur> .deb packages they are easier
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:59] <maigaur> after do
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:59] <maigaur> install-apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:15] <maigaur> and check what are the dependencies in zenoss doc
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:22] <maigaur> you ll just have to do
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:28] <maigaur> apt-get install nameofthepackage
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:42] <Duf> k
[11-Jul-2006 09:41:26] <Duf> thanks for the help
[11-Jul-2006 09:46:13] <maigaur> is it working ?
[11-Jul-2006 09:49:54] <Duf> i did an install-apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:49:58] <Duf> successful
[11-Jul-2006 09:50:07] <Duf> i wonder what the name of the package is for python
[11-Jul-2006 09:51:57] <Duf> did an apt-get install pyth*
[11-Jul-2006 09:52:05] <Duf> python is already the newest version
[11-Jul-2006 09:54:52] <Duf> still problems
[11-Jul-2006 09:54:58] <Duf> Unable to find python build environment
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:33] <maigaur> i looked in the documentatiuon
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:36] <maigaur> package name
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:41] <maigaur> for python environemeny
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:45] <maigaur> is python-dev
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:13] <maigaur> for my self, i have a problem
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:18] <maigaur> if a developer could come
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:22] <maigaur> the new version
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:28] <maigaur> of vmware version
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:29] <maigaur> enables me
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:34] <maigaur> to have the perf graph
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:38] <maigaur> but i can t do
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:44] <maigaur> the automatic discovery
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:58] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:03] <maigaur> maybe in the next release
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:05] <maigaur> ^^
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:19] <Duf> could not find package
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:22] <Duf> i'm still having trouble
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:18] <maigaur> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/python-devel-2.4.3-3.i586.rpm
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:22] <maigaur> get this file
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:27] <maigaur> and installe
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:31] <maigaur> think it is a good one
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:13] <Duf> k be back in a few hrs
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:16] <Duf> thanks for the help
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:18] <Duf> meeting now
[11-Jul-2006 10:03:43] <maigaur> k
[11-Jul-2006 10:03:45] <maigaur> bye$
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[11-Jul-2006 10:04:29] <maigaur> help ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <maigaur> how can i add disc space
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:38] <maigaur> to perf graph
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:38] <maigaur> ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:58] <edahl> look in os
[11-Jul-2006 10:05:01] <edahl> under filesystems
[11-Jul-2006 10:05:04] <edahl> should be there
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[11-Jul-2006 10:22:15] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:18] <maigaur> works
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:25] <maigaur> in fact
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:28] <maigaur> if i uninstall
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:34] <maigaur> snmp-informant
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:42] <maigaur> what informations will i loose ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:23:22] <ecn> host cpu & memory
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:04] <maigaur> ok
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:07] <maigaur> is it possible
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:12] <maigaur> to send mail alerts
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:23] <maigaur> when cpu idle is too high
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:28] <maigaur> or not enough memory
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:40] <ecn> yep
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:48] <maigaur> how ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <maigaur> but ecn
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <ecn> you can set thresholds on those values
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:00] <ecn> that will generate an event
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:04] <ecn> which you can turn into mail
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:07] <maigaur> now i can t auto discover my network :'-(
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:19] <ecn> nothing really changed in that part
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:27] <maigaur> i promess you
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:34] <maigaur> something must have changed
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:01] <ecn> there should be thresholds set on the cpu & memory by default
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:09] <ecn> oops...
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:16] <ecn> erik just told me only on CPU
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:03] <maigaur> in your new vmware
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:05] <maigaur> version
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:10] <maigaur> there is a problem
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:22] <maigaur> but i don t care i finally have the grapgs
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:26] <maigaur> that is all i wnated
[11-Jul-2006 10:28:00] <ecn> if you could run a zendisc and capture the error that you belive you saw, it would be helpful to us
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:06] <maigaur> first of all
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:11] <maigaur> it is very very slow
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:23] <maigaur> after he finds my router
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:47] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '192.168.0.0'
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:54] <maigaur> after he "crashes"
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:02] <maigaur> he stays on that screen
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:06] <maigaur> and nothing
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:37] <ecn> got to Networks -> zProperties tab, edit "zDefaultNetworkTree" to contain 2 lines, with just 24 and 32 (remove the 16).
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:02] <ecn> He's just trying to ping 65535 addresses. It takes a while.
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:28] <ecn> delete everything under networks
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:34] <ecn> and try to rediscover
[11-Jul-2006 10:48:50] <creiht> So after reading a bit in the forums... Should I go ahead and upgrade to 0.21 or wait for 0.21.1?
[11-Jul-2006 11:03:56] <edahl> hum can you give 0.21 a shot
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:00] <edahl> 0
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:04] <edahl> 0.21.0
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:24] <creiht> hmmm... ok
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:25] <edahl> are you in test mode or production
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:26] <edahl> ?
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:33] <creiht> production
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:37] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:44] <creiht> I did a simple test of .21 and things looked pretty good
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:53] <creiht> but then I saw ticket #176
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:54] <edahl> ok then go for it
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:01] <creiht> And wondered if that was going to be a problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:04] <edahl> yes It was a strange one
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:17] <edahl> is zenstatus working for you?
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:22] <edahl> in test
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:24] <edahl> ?
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:36] <creiht> It was... but I only had 1 or 2 machines monitoring in test
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:38] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:55] <edahl> if you have a problem its a one liner to fix it
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:02] <creiht> sounds good
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:07] <creiht> I'll upgrade then
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:11] <creiht> crosses fingers
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:15] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:16] <edahl> cool ping me if you have problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:25] <creiht> Will do... Thanks for the help
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[11-Jul-2006 11:10:00] <edahl> no problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:my hostname = localhost.localdomain
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:my ip = 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:20] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:stopping...
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:26] <maigaur> but
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:34] <maigaur> if i add my computer it works
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:37] <maigaur> 172.29.1.85
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:38] <maigaur> :/
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[11-Jul-2006 11:27:01] <Duf> hey i'm back from the meeting
[11-Jul-2006 11:27:35] <Duf> still can't get the python build environment
[11-Jul-2006 11:27:42] <Duf> after doing an apt
[11-Jul-2006 11:29:24] <maigaur> sorry duf i have to go
[11-Jul-2006 11:29:56] <ecn> Duf: other people have been successful by using the python sources tarball from python.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:03] <ecn> for SuSE 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:10] <ecn> it's not hard to build
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:33] <edahl> maigaur: you shouldn't run zendisc on 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:09] <maigaur> if i do
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:19] <maigaur> zendisc run --net 172.29.1.0
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:27] <maigaur> it was working with the old version
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:33] <maigaur> now, i have an error
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:33] <edahl> how many devices are you adding?
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:41] <edahl> can you add from the UI?
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:45] <maigaur> yeo
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:47] <maigaur> yep
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:49] <Duf> thanks, i'll try tarball.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:50] <maigaur> i can add manualy
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:54] <edahl> that might be the easiest way
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:56] <Duf> err python.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <ecn> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.3/Python-2.4.3.tgz
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <maigaur> but i would like to do as before
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <creiht> edahl: Are there problems if you use spaces in the Device names?
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <maigaur> it was great
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:54] <maigaur> it shew that to my boss
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:56] <maigaur> lol
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:00] <maigaur> he was impressed
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:14] <edahl> creiht: shouldn't be
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:36] <edahl> maigaur: cool
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:46] <maigaur> but now :/
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:04] <maigaur> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13 -v 10 works
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:26] <creiht> edahl: I'm getting this error in zenperfsnmp.log:
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:34] <creiht> 2006-07-11 10:30:29 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: xmlrpclib.Fault: <Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: Products.ZCTextIndex.ParseTree.ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, 'OnyxAppServer1' found">
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:56] <creiht> Where the device name for that server is "{UK} OnyxAppServer1"
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:12] <maigaur> edahl
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:15] <maigaur> it is working
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:16] <maigaur> now
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:23] <maigaur> 2 hours after installation
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:28] <maigaur> he found my network
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:35] <maigaur> but you know
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:41] <maigaur> it is different than before
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:52] <maigaur> WARNING:zen.IpAddress:172.29.1.223: (1, 'Unknown host')
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:58] <maigaur> i have those warning now
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:05] <maigaur> i didn"t have them before
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:07] <maigaur> :/
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:10] <maigaur> before great
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:14] <maigaur> he discovers
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:20] <maigaur> great job guys
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:21] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:26] <maigaur> now
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:30] <maigaur> last thing to know
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:39] <maigaur> please explain me
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:44] <maigaur> how to do that
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> ecn> you can set thresholds on those values
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> <ecn> that will generate an event
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> <ecn> which you can turn into mail
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:44] <maigaur> please
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:48] <maigaur> last thing to know
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[11-Jul-2006 11:40:43] <ecn> first, try to generate an event by pushing your cpu load high enough
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:08] <ecn> then read the section in the system admin guide on events
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:21] <ecn> because I haven't read it yet ;-)
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:50] <ecn> check w/me later this week if you are still having problems... I will have learned the code by then
[11-Jul-2006 11:45:56] <ecn> FYI, this will push your cpu up:
[11-Jul-2006 11:46:00] <ecn> bash -c 'while :; do true ; done'
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[11-Jul-2006 11:57:40] <Duf> how do you set the password for the Zenoss "admin" user?
[11-Jul-2006 12:16:24] <navers_> i'm pretty sure it's "zenpass -u admin initusr" then follow prompts
[11-Jul-2006 12:16:36] <navers_> might be inituser.
[11-Jul-2006 12:17:53] <Duf> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:31] <Duf> zenpass is an invalid command
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:36] <Duf> i need to install zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:44] <Duf> and when i run ./install.sh it asks for the zenoss password
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:47] <Duf> for admin
[11-Jul-2006 12:19:01] <navers_> mm. yeah. just set it to whatever you want
[11-Jul-2006 12:20:12] <amodlin> you're running the install script and its asking for the password right at the start, right?
[11-Jul-2006 12:20:56] <Duf> correct
[11-Jul-2006 12:22:09] <Duf> it's asking for the password
[11-Jul-2006 12:25:42] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 12:25:55] <amodlin> yeah, that's just for the initial setup for the web interface password
[11-Jul-2006 12:26:16] <amodlin> you can set it to whatever you like, it will just be the password for how you access it from the web interface
[11-Jul-2006 12:27:57] <Duf> that's not helping me
[11-Jul-2006 12:28:00] <Duf> it's how you set it
[11-Jul-2006 12:28:10] <Duf> i cannot install zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 12:29:00] <Duf> hey it's lunchtime now
[11-Jul-2006 12:29:07] <Duf> be back around 1:30ish EDT
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[11-Jul-2006 14:11:55] <Duf> i'm back
[11-Jul-2006 14:11:58] <Duf> here is the status on my install
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:08] <Duf> it says to set the zenoss admin password
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:12] <Duf> and the zenpass command does not work
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:18] <Duf> how can this be done?
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:53] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:13:09] <amodlin> if you're just doing the install for the first time you don't need to do the zenpass command
[11-Jul-2006 14:14:00] <amodlin> just run the install.sh, select your username, it'll ask for the password for your mySQL database and the password you wish to setup for the zenoss admin user
[11-Jul-2006 14:15:33] <Duf> i have the mysql password correct
[11-Jul-2006 14:15:46] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:05] <Duf> but what do i type for Password for the Zenoss "admin" user?
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:13] <amodlin> anything you want
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:31] <amodlin> the password you type is what you will later use to access Zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:08] <Duf> k
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:19] <amodlin> get it working?
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:23] <Duf> it says "mkdir: cannot create directory build
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:26] <Duf> permission deanied
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:31] <Duf> *denied
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:43] <amodlin> ah ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:49] <Duf> it has before, but i was guessing that the password was the problem
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:57] <amodlin> the permissions in the install directory are not set correctly
[11-Jul-2006 14:21:26] <amodlin> what user are you running the install as, and what user/group owns the install directory (the one you un-tared or SVNed)
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:32] <Duf> i'm running install as zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:41] <Duf> and root owns the install directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:51] <amodlin> ok, you have to set the ownership of the install directory to zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:58] <Duf> how?
[11-Jul-2006 14:24:19] <amodlin> what is the path to the install directory?
[11-Jul-2006 14:28:58] <Duf> hold on
[11-Jul-2006 14:29:29] <Duf> what are some example paths?
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:06] <amodlin> well, where did you untar the download to?
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:12] <amodlin> that'll be your install directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:27] <Duf> usr/bin
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:37] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:05] <amodlin> so is there a directory in usr/bin?
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:09] <Duf> so to set the ownership to zenoss, what should i do?
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:36] <Duf> move the install directory to /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:48] <amodlin> ok you need to type chown zenoss:zenoss /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:50] <amodlin> as root
[11-Jul-2006 14:32:12] <ecn> chown -R
[11-Jul-2006 14:32:22] <amodlin> right, sorry. chown -R
[11-Jul-2006 14:33:29] <Duf> ok lemme try that
[11-Jul-2006 14:33:54] <Duf> zenoss:zenoss invalid group
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:21] <amodlin> hm
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:34] <amodlin> you have a zenoss user, correct?
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:54] <amodlin> try chown zenoss:users /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:58] <amodlin> chown -R, sorry
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:11] <bubba> can someone help me find or explain the format for bulk-loading devices in zenoss?
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:53] <Duf> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:55] <Duf> let's see now
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:15] <Duf> it's working
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:16] <Duf> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:20] <ecn> bubba: is discovery not working for you?
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:22] <Duf> or not
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:25] <Duf> error again
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:30] <amodlin> what error?
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:52] <Duf> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:05] <bubba> ecn: yes, but I'd like to load an existing inventory with custom fields into the system
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:06] <Duf> last thing it did was "configuring build/Zope-2.8.7-final/makefile
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:10] <amodlin> ok, tail zenbuild.log
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:17] <amodlin> what does it give you
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:53] <Duf> talks about the lib-dynload directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:01] <Duf> and run the configure script with --ignore-zlib
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:10] <amodlin> hmmm
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:50] <amodlin> ecn would know more about that than me, sounds like it might be a missing library
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:12] <ecn> bubba: this is really bleeding edge for a new user, but if you are motivated:
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:30] <Duf> yeah no zlib library installed
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:42] <Duf> need a Python interpreter with includes the zlib module
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:49] <ecn> bubba: see XmlDataLoader.py and XmlDataDump.py in ZenModel
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:54] <amodlin> what version of python do you have Duf
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:03] <amodlin> and do you have python-devel
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:03] <Duf> 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:13] <Duf> i don't think so
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:26] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:30] <ecn> bubba: that's how we pre-load data into Zenoss: the initial object structure
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:33] <amodlin> you'll definately need to get python-devel
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:49] <Duf> i'm sure i can apt that
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:58] <bubba> ecn: great! I'll dig into it
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:00] <amodlin> yep
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:02] <bubba> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:09] <amodlin> what distro are you using?
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:22] <Duf> okay it's installing, 14 MB of disk space will be used
[11-Jul-2006 14:46:56] <amodlin> sounds good
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[11-Jul-2006 14:50:35] <Duf> same thing
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:39] <Duf> unable to build
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:45] <Duf> but i'll be back later this afternoon or tomorrow
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:48] <Duf> i have a meeting now
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:52] <Duf> thanks for all of your help
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:54] <amodlin> ok
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[11-Jul-2006 14:59:36] <landonf> What's the point of giving the zenoss user sudo access to kill and *python*?
[11-Jul-2006 15:00:13] <landonf> Not to mention, env_keep += "PYTHONPATH" is a great way to allow people to bypass sudo limitations.
[11-Jul-2006 15:00:48] <ecn> python sends ping packets, and root access is required for that
[11-Jul-2006 15:01:04] <ecn> python listens on priveledged ports (syslog, snmp traps)
[11-Jul-2006 15:01:10] <landonf> You don't need to provide a path to priviledge escalation in order to do that.
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:17] <ecn> hmm.. yes, we probably could set up the path internally based upon some other element, like where python is running from
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:32] <ecn> but, python itself opens a pandora's box of exposure
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:40] <landonf> Or start and stop as root (like every other piece of software that requires privileges)
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:09] <landonf> ecn: I don't see how Python inherently opens a pandroa's box of exposure.
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:55] <landonf> Oh, I see. Running under sudo.
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:59] <ecn> it is dynamically finding modules to run
[11-Jul-2006 15:04:16] <landonf> So is everything else, hurrah for dynamic linkers.
[11-Jul-2006 15:04:20] <ecn> 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:02] <landonf> It'd seem a vast improvement to just run as root and drop privileges. I'm not seeing the benefit to starting/stopping daemons as the zenoss user.
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:13] <ecn> please feel free to configure it that way
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:32] <ecn> the fact that you are asking these questions places you in the top 5% of users we are dealing with
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:02] <landonf> That's depressing
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:07] <ecn> you have no idea
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:47] <ecn> for development (which is where we are now)... sudo works very well, and I never edit files as root, which is a good thing
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:00] <landonf> And super handy for development
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:02] <ecn> but it's completely possible to set it up the way you suggest
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:19] <ecn> I did for the first couple of weeks I worked on zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:36] <ecn> if you find some impediment to doing that, let us know and we'll fix it
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:47] <landonf> This is bumping up against the dichotomy of development vs production deployment.
[11-Jul-2006 15:12:49] <landonf> hmm
[11-Jul-2006 15:12:58] <landonf> The install script assumes the database name
[11-Jul-2006 15:13:26] <landonf> As well as SUPER access.
[11-Jul-2006 15:21:11] <landonf> Oh man. From the trac install, on why not to use PostgreSQL: "Don't think this will be any time soon. Need to have in memory tables and speed which is why we use MySQL."
[11-Jul-2006 15:22:53] <ecn> SUPER access is for the trigger
[11-Jul-2006 15:23:17] <ecn> haven't stopped to figure out how to add that permission for a regular user (yet)
[11-Jul-2006 15:24:41] <ecn> as for the in-memory thing: I know we get blasted with a lot of events at one time when Bad Things Happen at a site with a thousand devices
[11-Jul-2006 15:24:59] <ecn> but I'm not sure that there was any sort of performance measurement made
[11-Jul-2006 15:25:27] <ecn> I would like to see us move towards a more general python OR mapping library so that we can choose our database later (like during installation)
[11-Jul-2006 15:25:41] <ecn> but, that's not going to happen soon
[11-Jul-2006 15:26:46] <landonf> I was looking at the ORM trac bug
[11-Jul-2006 15:27:00] <landonf> Your database use isn't that complex, is it?
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:28] <ecn> meh... no, not really
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:41] <ecn> but we're using a much of mysqlish things
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:50] <ecn> like... commands that create the database
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:00] <ecn> deal with "if doesn't exist, make table"
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:11] <ecn> and an ORM would handle that in python
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:38] <landonf> *nod*
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:59] <ecn> there's the trigger to maintain the history of events
[11-Jul-2006 15:31:13] <ecn> which we should probably do in python for portability
[11-Jul-2006 15:31:25] <ecn> but it's really nice to not have to worry about it
[11-Jul-2006 15:33:24] <landonf> You could implement the equivalent anywhere other than sqlite, really.
[11-Jul-2006 15:35:55] <ecn> yes, but we would have to maintain it... just not a priority at the moment
[11-Jul-2006 15:36:54] <ecn> so do you push for sexier event handling, or using postgres/mysql4/oracle/sybase/sqlserver?
[11-Jul-2006 15:37:55] <landonf> Truthfully I don't put much stock in database agnosticism. We run both postgres and mysql as needed.
[11-Jul-2006 15:39:26] <landonf> After tracking down more than my fair share of bugs in MySQL, I'm more than a little opinionated as to the code quality.
[11-Jul-2006 15:41:58] <creiht> ecn or edahl: So I'm trying to test receiving snmp traps... Is there anything that I specifically need to do to set zenoss up to handle that, or should I just send the trap?
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:19] <ecn> run zentrap (which is probably running if you upgraded)
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:46] <ecn> as you get events you'll want to load mibs into the database
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:58] <ecn> (using zenmib)
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <creiht> hmm
[11-Jul-2006 15:43:12] <ecn> so that your traps look prettier
[11-Jul-2006 15:43:36] <creiht> Doesn't look like zentrap loads by default
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:08] <creiht> and it doesn't look like ./bin/zenoss starts it
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:33] <ecn> did you upgrade using svn?
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:38] <ecn> or the tarball?
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:41] <creiht> tarball
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:47] <ecn> ok...
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:50] <ecn> our bad
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:59] <ecn> edit $ZENHOME/bin/zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:04] <ecn> add zenping to the big list
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:06] <ecn> oops
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:07] <creiht> right... doing that right now
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:08] <ecn> zentrap
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:11] <ecn> he
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:13] <ecn> heh
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:50] <creiht> starting zentrap also gives me an error saying that zentrap.conf wasn't found
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:08] <ecn> touch $ZENHOME/etc/zentrap.conf
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:38] <ecn> (it's just a warning, it still works)
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:51] <creiht> ok
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:52] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 15:50:05] <creiht> ecn: ok... where will the traps show up?
[11-Jul-2006 15:55:47] <landonf> Products/ZenEvents/db/loadZenEvents.sh isn't referenced anywhere. Is it used for anything?
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:15] <edahl> no its old
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:39] <edahl> creiht: traps should show in event view
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:50] <creiht> hmm... ok...
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:05] <edahl> look in /Events Event tab
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:13] <edahl> that should show all events
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:15] <creiht> Can anyone help me send a trap via command line so that I can test it
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:17] <landonf> I'm working on tweaking things a bit to support arbitrary event database names
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:44] <creiht> sorry for my still newbish understanding of snmp
[11-Jul-2006 15:58:58] <ecn> creiht: here's what I did when initially testing
[11-Jul-2006 15:59:12] <ecn> set up snmpd on your box to have zenoss as it's trap destination:
[11-Jul-2006 15:59:55] <ecn> echo 'trapsink localhost' >> /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:03] <ecn> restart snmpd:
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:17] <ecn> /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:32] <ecn> that should generate a trap (a cold start trap event)
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:57] <ecn> every time you stop/start snmpd it will send that pair of events
[11-Jul-2006 16:01:39] <ecn> and if you leave it down long enough zenperfsnmp will get mad at you and tell you that your snmpd is failing, which is comforting
[11-Jul-2006 16:02:00] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 16:03:59] <creiht> ahah
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:02] <creiht> ok so that worked
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:12] <ecn> good!
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:43] <ecn> if you have a UPS around, they are fun to hook up
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:49] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 16:05:33] <creiht> ok so then has anyone had experience setting up log4j to send snmp traps?
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:17] <edahl> not me
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:19] <ecn> not here
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:27] <creiht> ok I'll keep toying with it
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:41] <ecn> log4j... woudn't it be happier w/syslog?
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:46] <creiht> good to know that the trap mechanism is working correctly though
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:04] <creiht> ecn: In theory yes
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:14] <ecn> we saw some very nice events like "battery is in immediate need of repair" at a customer site
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:36] <creiht> ecn: But I ended up installing the zenoss on our actual syslog server
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:48] <ecn> oh
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:52] <creiht> And thus the syslog server runs on a different port
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:09] <creiht> And the log4j syslog appender doesn't let you set the port
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:12] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:41] <creiht> So in hindsight... I just need to get a new server dedicated to zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 16:09:25] <creiht> But in general there are just a handful of events that we want to capture and create alerts for, so we figured that setting up the snmp trap functionality wouldn't be too bad
[11-Jul-2006 16:19:11] <landonf> Hmmm. Would there be any objections to moving the database configuration to a proper configuration file in conf/ ?
[11-Jul-2006 16:20:42] <landonf> That'd avoid passing database password around on the command line, and I could make the event database name configurable at the same time.
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:42] <edahl> we don't pass on cmd after install
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:53] <edahl> its stored in the database
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:59] <edahl> zeo database
[11-Jul-2006 16:22:14] <landonf> Ah. Hmm.
[11-Jul-2006 16:26:38] <landonf> What's the evaluation criterea for putting a setting in the zeo db instead of the conf/ files?
[11-Jul-2006 16:27:44] <ecn> not everything has a zeo connection
[11-Jul-2006 16:28:18] <ecn> the rest are just commandline parameters and the conf file provides a way to override them
[11-Jul-2006 16:29:09] <landonf> Ah, okay.
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[11-Jul-2006 16:35:51] <Duf> hey i'm bacik
[11-Jul-2006 16:35:53] <Duf> *back
[11-Jul-2006 16:36:06] <Duf> i installed the zlib.so library but i keep getting the same error
[11-Jul-2006 16:37:04] <edahl> duf: it might be worth trying out the vmware image just to get the eval going. Also is a good reference on how to setup the system
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:14] <Duf> i have the install instructions
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:17] <Duf> but i am stuck at a point
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:44] <ecn> what does it say at the end of the zenbuild.log?
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:27] <Duf> The Python interpreter you are using does not appear to have the 'zlib' library module installed
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:40] <Duf> i downloaded a python-zlib package for 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:43] <Duf> and installed it
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:48] <Duf> but i still get the error
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:58] <Duf> it says to run the configure script with the --ignore-zlib option
[11-Jul-2006 16:40:05] <Duf> which i did, but i still got the error
[11-Jul-2006 16:41:14] <ecn> Duf: what distro are you using?
[11-Jul-2006 16:42:54] <Duf> of linux?
[11-Jul-2006 16:42:59] <Duf> i'm using SuSE 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 16:43:49] <ecn> and you downloaded and installed python using the tarball from python.org?
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:17] <Duf> yes
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:19] <Duf> python 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:41] <ecn> ok.. make sure that zenoss is using /usr/local/bin/python
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:46] <ecn> during the install
[11-Jul-2006 16:45:01] <ecn> in fact, delete $ZENHOME and start the install process again
[11-Jul-2006 16:45:58] <Duf> ok thanks
[11-Jul-2006 16:49:32] <Duf> how do I delete $ZENHOME
[11-Jul-2006 16:49:44] <Duf> i'm a newbie to unix
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:00] <ecn> Duf: you really need the vmware image 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:23] <ecn> you can run it under windows with the free vmplayer
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:41] <ecn> (the answer to your question, btw is "rm -rf $ZENHOME"
[11-Jul-2006 16:51:58] <Duf> here are the instructions for installing
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:06] <Duf> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:16] <Duf> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:29] <Duf> export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:33] <ecn> Duf... I am somewhat familiar with the install instructions
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:45] <Duf> are any of those wrong
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:50] <Duf> or should i go ahead and do it like that again?
[11-Jul-2006 16:53:32] <ecn> sure, there are probably things you don't need to do again, but just do them all over again
[11-Jul-2006 16:53:39] <ecn> good practice
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[11-Jul-2006 16:54:55] <BullGates> Hello
[11-Jul-2006 16:57:06] <BullGates> pardon me one question: any of you knows where to get some updated MIBS for Microsoft Windows 2003 R2 and Vmware ESX?
[11-Jul-2006 17:01:12] <edahl> I haven't seen any
[11-Jul-2006 17:01:21] <edahl> does vmware esx publish a mib?
[11-Jul-2006 17:02:28] <BullGates> I really don't know
[11-Jul-2006 17:03:04] <BullGates> the esx servers display performance graphs
[11-Jul-2006 17:03:21] <BullGates> but the windows servers don't
[11-Jul-2006 17:07:04] <Duf> same crap with zlib going on
[11-Jul-2006 17:07:07] <Duf> and i have the library
[11-Jul-2006 17:12:21] <landonf> So the externallibs are installed regardless of their availability on the system?
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:09] <edahl> no we look to see if the are already installed
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:18] <edahl> except rrdtool
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:28] <edahl> which we need to build with python libs
[11-Jul-2006 17:24:41] <landonf> Must be misreading zenossinst
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[11-Jul-2006 17:28:14] <edahl> the make file looks for deps
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:30] <creiht> edahl: For the process monitoring does the regex apply against the hrSWRunName or does it also include hrSWRunParameters?
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:45] <edahl> both together
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:53] * edahl joined with a space
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:56] <creiht> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:36:18] <creiht> Is the hrSWRunPath thrown in there anywhere?
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:14] <edahl> no not today
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:18] <edahl> do you need it?
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:21] <creiht> no
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:24] <edahl> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:25] <creiht> Just making sure
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:29] <edahl>
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:43] <creiht> Monitoring JBOSS processes is a bit more difficult than I expected
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:56] <creiht> But I think I have it figured out now
[11-Jul-2006 17:38:24] <sbellows> didn't know it had processes
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[11-Jul-2006 17:47:14] <creiht> Whoa
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:22] <creiht> ok so I'm monitoring jboss now
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:42] <creiht> But the name that shows up is the whole name plus parameters
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:48] <creiht> Which is fairly long
[11-Jul-2006 17:48:18] <creiht> edahl: I guess I expected it to use the name that I created when creating the process in zenoss
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[11-Jul-2006 17:49:47] <edahl> not sure I follow
[11-Jul-2006 17:49:53] <edahl> let me look at one
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:06] <creiht> Under processes I created a process called JBOSS
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:22] <creiht> That has a regex of ^java*.(jboss)*.
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:36] <edahl> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:38] <creiht> I then re-ran the detection for one of our jboss server
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:43] <creiht> And when I look at the os tab
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:53] <edahl> its the full name (with params)
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:55] <creiht> I see the jboss process
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:56] <edahl> right?
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:57] <creiht> yes
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:08] <edahl> that's so we can differentiate
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:08] <creiht> For jboss it looks like this though
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:18] <creiht> java -server -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -Dprogram.name=jboss.init -Dcrm-ws.properties=/usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/server/all/deploy/axis.war/WEB-INF/lib/crm-ws.properties -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/lib/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/bin/run.jar:/usr/java/jrockit-R26.3.0-jdk1.5.0_06/lib/tools.jar org.jboss.Main -c all -b jbosstest1.core.rackspace.com
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:20] <edahl> it has an MD5 sum
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:24] <edahl> for id
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:27] <edahl> wow
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:30] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:31] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:35] <creiht> it is a bit verbose
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:54] <edahl> are there multiple procs?
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:59] <creiht> just one
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:04] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:13] <edahl> tough to find a good solution here
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:17] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:25] <creiht> It will probably be alright
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:29] <creiht> except
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:35] <creiht> If it generates an alert
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:43] <creiht> Will it show that whole string in the alert?
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:58] <edahl> In the component name
[11-Jul-2006 17:53:05] <edahl> I think
[11-Jul-2006 17:54:30] <creiht> hmmm... that will be a bit much to show up in an alert
[11-Jul-2006 17:54:35] <edahl> yes
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:06] <edahl> Guess we need to allow an override that is manually set
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:14] <creiht> That would be nice
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:40] <creiht> Otherwise the process monitoring looks great so far
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:55] <edahl> cool!
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:41] <creiht> I'm not sure how to use it with apache
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:42] <creiht> though
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:53] <creiht> As we run with multiple apache processes
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:53] * edahl put it in count mode
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:16] <creiht> But then it just shows me how many pocesses are running, and not how much memory they are using
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:29] <edahl> I know
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:51] <edahl> we need a better solution for multi process setups ie appache
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:54] <creiht> Though it will be interesting to watch the counts non the less to see what those look like
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:04] <edahl> yes
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:05] <creiht> and postgres
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:10] <edahl> oh
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:18] <creiht> I think
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:20] <creiht> let me check
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:21] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 18:03:48] <creiht> yes
[11-Jul-2006 18:03:58] <creiht> postgresql runs with several processes
[11-Jul-2006 18:06:55] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:00] <edahl> that's a drag
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:24] <edahl> we have a plan for how to fix this but it might not happen until 0.23
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:29] <edahl> end of august
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:34] <creiht> gotcha
[11-Jul-2006 18:22:47] <creiht> edahl: Is the performance tab under Systems supposed to be working in 0.21?
[11-Jul-2006 18:24:46] <BullGates> edahl: I really appreciate your nice work.
[11-Jul-2006 18:26:15] * creiht agrees with BullGates
[11-Jul-2006 18:26:21] <BullGates> I'm evalluating the possibility of using Zenoss on the first Linux box of our company... If it happens, it will be an historic moment :-)
[11-Jul-2006 18:31:34] <landonf> hmmm. initial populating of the zeo db seems to be filling /tmp
[11-Jul-2006 18:34:57] <landonf> It's a small file system on this machine. Does the zeo db normally consume upwards of 250 megs of /tmp during initial population?
[11-Jul-2006 18:35:50] <landonf> If not, I may have introduced a bug in my changes, but this seems an unlikely failure.
[11-Jul-2006 18:40:52] <BullGates> edahl: I was reading some documentation and it seems vmware has esx mibs on their servers
[11-Jul-2006 18:41:01] <BullGates> "You can find the MIB files on VMware ESX Server, in the /usr/lib/vmware/snmp/mibs directory."
[11-Jul-2006 18:41:28] <BullGates> I will try that tomorrow if I have the time
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[11-Jul-2006 19:30:22] <landonf> wow. nearly half a gig.
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[11-Jul-2006 21:37:05] <josepf> Hi, I was hoping one of you guys could help me. I am using a VM Image of Zenoss that I downloaded from the VMware appliances web pages. Zenoss is up and running fine, but I can't seem to extract much data from my Windows XP Service Pack 2 Workstation. Is Zenoss strictly for servers? I was trying to take an inventory of my network with Zenoss. On my Windows station I have installed the SNMP service, along with the SNMP WMI. I can re
[11-Jul-2006 21:37:27] <landonf> hmmm. http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/Performance/localhost/getDevices is returning a site erorr (resource doesn't exist)
[11-Jul-2006 21:37:35] <landonf> Causing zenperfsnmp to blow up
[11-Jul-2006 21:51:14] <landonf> Is it possible that I botched something during the initial setup?
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[12-Jul-2006 09:38:12] <Duf> good morning
[12-Jul-2006 09:40:30] <Fishstickz> 'mornin
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[12-Jul-2006 09:49:31] <maigaur> ecn
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:11] <maigaur> hello
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:21] <maigaur> can you explain me in detail
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:24] <maigaur> how to
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:27] <maigaur> send a mail
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:33] <maigaur> in case of problem
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:38] <maigaur> i can t do it by myself
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[12-Jul-2006 09:50:47] <maigaur> you were too fast yesterday
[12-Jul-2006 09:51:16] <edahl> maigaur: take a look at the admin guide
[12-Jul-2006 09:51:23] <edahl> it has a section on this
[12-Jul-2006 09:53:11] <edahl> section 7.4
[12-Jul-2006 09:53:23] <edahl> Alerting (email and pager)
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[12-Jul-2006 10:24:13] <maigaur> i have a problem
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:24] <maigaur> in admin
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:29] <maigaur> i changed the password
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:42] <maigaur> i put twice the same password
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:47] <maigaur> but it didn t work
[12-Jul-2006 10:26:46] <maigaur> how can i find my user and password for each user ?
[12-Jul-2006 10:30:57] <edahl> you can manage users under the Users link on the left side of the screen at the bottom
[12-Jul-2006 10:31:11] <edahl> admin is special and must be edited from ZMI
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[12-Jul-2006 10:39:32] <maigaur> ok
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:34] <maigaur> i am afraid
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:43] <maigaur> i will have to reinstall zenoss :/
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:59] <maigaur> can t login now
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[12-Jul-2006 10:47:31] <creiht> edahl_: When receiving traps in zenoss, do I have to have the device in zenoss for it to receive the traps?
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:46] <edahl_> no
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:51] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:59] <edahl_> but if its not you need to look under /Events to find the event
[12-Jul-2006 10:48:05] <creiht> right
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[12-Jul-2006 11:25:58] <creiht> edahl: Can zenoss receive v2 traps or does it need to be a v1 trap?
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:20] <edahl> yes we can do v2 traps and informs
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:36] <edahl> we haven't tested these much though
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:50] <edahl> they aren't very common
[12-Jul-2006 11:27:25] <creiht> What port does zentrap listen on?
[12-Jul-2006 11:28:54] <creiht> nm... 162... and we have a trap!
[12-Jul-2006 11:29:22] <edahl> cool
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:28] <creiht> edahl: For a single Windows server that I have, I keep getting events saying things like:
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:36] <creiht> Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on ServerNameHere (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:44] <edahl> need to install snmp-informant
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:47] <edahl> to get that
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:54] <creiht> But the performance data is showing up as if it is installed
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:59] <creiht> and I'm pretty sure it is installed
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:13] <edahl> is it just a that value?
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:23] <edahl> ie not cpu and free mem
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:25] <creiht> It's all 3
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:30] <edahl> must not be there
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:34] <creiht> hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:44] <creiht> But the performance graphs show up for the device
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:46] <creiht> with data
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:56] <edahl> wow
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:06] <creiht> yeah
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:27] <edahl> are the events old
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:28] <edahl> ?
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:37] <creiht> I don't think so
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[12-Jul-2006 11:41:46] <creiht> I just cleared them to see if they come back again
[12-Jul-2006 11:42:10] <edahl> good thought
[12-Jul-2006 11:43:21] <creiht> Events are back
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:16] <creiht> edahl: I do keep getting this error in zenperfsnmp.log for the same device:
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86121
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 86121 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <creiht> I'm not sure if it is related
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:06] <edahl> thats strange
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:39] <edahl> can you look in zope's error log and give us the trace from there?
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:44] <creiht> That's what I thought
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:47] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:51] <ec1> log/event.log
[12-Jul-2006 11:54:53] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86123
[12-Jul-2006 11:54:53] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 86123 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:35] <edahl> don't think this is related
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:42] <edahl> try reindexing
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:45] <edahl> in zendmd
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:48] <edahl> run
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:55] <edahl> dmd.Devices.reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:58] <edahl> then commit()
[12-Jul-2006 11:56:19] <edahl> it might take a while if you have a bunch of devices
[12-Jul-2006 11:56:28] <edahl> heading to lunch
[12-Jul-2006 11:59:52] <creiht> wow... That is a cool little tool
[12-Jul-2006 12:03:29] <creiht> edahl: When you get back... I'm still getting the same errors
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:15] <edahl> i'm back
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:20] <edahl> zendmd is nice
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:46] <edahl> you have access to everything in zeo there and of course python
[12-Jul-2006 12:23:13] <creiht> Now if you could integrate it with ipython, it would be super cool
[12-Jul-2006 12:24:16] <edahl> should be easy
[12-Jul-2006 12:24:26] <edahl> look at ZenModel/zendmd.py
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:06] <creiht> heh
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:09] <creiht> yeah that would be easy
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:17] <creiht> hmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:36] <creiht> Could network latency be an issue with the snmp performance issued that I am having?
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:46] <edahl> don't think so
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:55] <creiht> The devices are in the UK
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:31] <creiht> Hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:52] <creiht> I tried recollecting the config
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:57] <creiht> and this error shows up
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:09] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86154
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:09] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 86154 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:20] <creiht> the collection still completes
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:48] <edahl> ok try rebuliding
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:56] <edahl> dmd.Events.reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:00] <edahl> commit9)
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:04] <edahl> ()
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:16] <creiht> right... I did that just a little bit ago... or do you want me to try that again
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:41] <edahl> Did you do Devices or Events?
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:11] <creiht> oh
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:11] <edahl> on second though its Devices where the error is
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:14] <creiht> Devices
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:30] <creiht> While you were gone I also ran the complete reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:35] <edahl> ok
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:53] <edahl> any chance I can take a look at your box i'm stumped
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:03] <creiht> hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:09] <creiht> It's not on a public ip
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:14] <edahl> k
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:50] <creiht> Now the interesting thing is
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:05] <creiht> The server name that it is showing in the error
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:20] <creiht> Is an older server name
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:26] <creiht> I have renamed the device
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:47] <creiht> Originally I had a server name something similar to:
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:53] <creiht> UK Server1
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:59] <creiht> (note the space)
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:24] <creiht> And the error was:
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:32] <creiht> ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, 'Server1' found
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:37] <creiht> Notice no UK
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:40] <creiht> in the name
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:44] <edahl> y
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:54] <creiht> so I renamed the device to UK_Server1
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:03] <edahl> we have lots of spaces in names at another customer site
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:06] <creiht> Just to see if the space was an issue, and I still have the same problem
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:07] <creiht> ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:27] <edahl> how about deleteing the device?
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:31] <edahl> and readding
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:36] <creiht> I was just going to ask that
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:40] <creiht> I'll try that
[12-Jul-2006 12:43:15] <creiht> edahl: Deleted and added, and the error messages are still there
[12-Jul-2006 12:47:23] <creiht> off to lunch... bbl
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[12-Jul-2006 14:38:29] <creiht> edahl: ok back... Once I have traps coming in... What is the next step needed to generate alerts?
[12-Jul-2006 14:38:50] <ec1> they just need to match alert rules
[12-Jul-2006 14:39:13] <ec1> you can use mappings to clean up the traps and make them better looking events
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[12-Jul-2006 14:43:35] <creiht> ec1: That makes sense
[12-Jul-2006 14:43:50] <ec1> so add a user
[12-Jul-2006 14:44:48] <ec1> add an alerting rule for that user that matches your trap
[12-Jul-2006 14:45:56] <zaf> ok so i'm running Zenoss in the vmware appliance.. but I can't seem to be able to upgrade it. any suggestions? I get a gmake error at "installing zope"
[12-Jul-2006 14:46:54] <creiht> ec1: Is there a way to send the text of the value of the trap trhough the alert?
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:09] <ec1> yes, yes there is
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:49] <ec1> typically your trap has some really useless summary
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:53] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:17] <ec1> like "recevied trap oid 1.2.3.445.65 from FOO"
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:24] <creiht> yup
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:40] <ec1> ok... when looking at the trap event click on the last field of the event (the event count)
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:51] <ec1> this brings up the event details
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:54] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:14] <creiht> I stumbled upon that just a little bit ago
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:25] <creiht> I now wish I had known about it a lot earlier
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:29] <ec1> Erik had to tell me that
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:33] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:37] <creiht> It is very usefull
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:48] <ec1> that's all the "other" data for the trap
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:54] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:55] <ec1> some of which may be useful
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:10] <creiht> The part I'm interested in is the data under the Details tab
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:14] <ec1> if not, well, load the mib for this snmp trap and hope for something better
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:18] <ec1> great!
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:32] <ec1> let's say the field is something like "trapDetail"
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:53] <ec1> is the trap comming in as eventClass "unknown"?
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:00] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:11] <ec1> ok, we're going to map it
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:18] <creiht> sounds good
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:24] <ec1> select the event by checking the box next to it
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:31] <ec1> (under the filter column)
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:36] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:58] <ec1> select a category for this trap from the menu at the bottom
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:19] <creiht> Does it matter which one?
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:24] <ec1> anything there look good for this trap?
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:29] <ec1> it kinda does
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:37] <ec1> if you want it to go out... it needs to be category
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:42] <ec1> that will raise it's priority
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:52] <creiht> App/Log
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:52] <ec1> which we can force
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:14] <ec1> App/Log just leaves it alone, really, but we can fix that.. ok, App/Log is good
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:15] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:21] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:26] <ec1> press the map button
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:37] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:47] <ec1> so now you're looking at the mapping for this kind of event
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:55] <ec1> select zProperties
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:10] <ec1> You see the zEventAction?
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:11] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:15] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:20] <ec1> that means move this event to the history
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:24] <ec1> err... log it
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:28] <ec1> that's what we do in App/Log
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:33] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:47] <creiht> change that to (guesing) event?
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:17] <ec1> well, close
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:19] <ec1> "status"
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:26] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:27] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:32] <ec1> which we would get for free in a different category
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:40] <ec1> we can increase the severity, too
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:40] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:43] <ec1> let's raise it to 4
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:44] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:52] <creiht> done
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:54] <ec1> save
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:00] <ec1> go to Edit
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:13] <ec1> drop down to the transform section
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:28] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:39] <ec1> here's where you can update the summary to come from some other part of the event
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:44] <creiht> ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:08] <ec1> so you put in something like:
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:13] <ec1> evt.summary = evt.trapDetail
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:24] <ec1> where trapDetail comes from that property list you saw before
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:47] <ec1> let me just verify this step before we continue
[12-Jul-2006 14:59:12] <creiht> Well the data I'm looking for isn't in teh Fields tab, but in the Details tab
[12-Jul-2006 14:59:15] <creiht> Will that be a problem?
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:05] <creiht> under details I have something that looks like
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:05] <ec1> nope... that's ok, and a very common case
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:06] <creiht> Field: 1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:16] <ec1> oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:23] <ec1> well, that's trickier
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:24] <creiht> Value: 2006-07-12 13:43:57,588,INFO,[main],[org.jboss.cache.TreeCache],setting cluster properties from xml to: TCP(bind_addr=localhost;loopback=true;start_port=7880):TCPPING(down_thread=true;initial_hosts=localhost[7880];num_initial_members=3;port_range=3;timeou
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:35] <ec1> if you load the mib, you will get a nicer name
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:39] <ec1> you can do this:
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:52] <creiht> Ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:57] <ec1> evt.sumary = getattr(evt, '1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64', evt.summary)
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:59] <creiht> (It's a fake mib btw)
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:06] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:09] <ec1> fake, how so?
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:17] <creiht> ummm we made it up
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:25] <creiht> It's being sent from log4j
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:31] <ec1> well, so long as it compiles, it's good to go
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:35] <creiht> cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:07] <ec1> btw, in the rule section you can do something like this:
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:15] <ec1> hasattr(evt, '1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64')
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:27] <ec1> to make sure this rule only matches a trap with this detail
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:34] <ec1> but don't do that
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:40] <creiht> gotcha
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:45] <ec1> save
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:57] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:06] <ec1> and wait for nicer looking traps
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:14] <ec1> with higher priorities
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:20] <creiht> ok will do
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:24] <ec1> which, is more likely to match your alert rule
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:37] <ec1> and in the mean time, try to load your mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:44] <ec1> zenmib myfakemib.mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:49] <ec1> or maybe
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:54] <ec1> zenmib run myfakemib.mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:05:09] <creiht> ERROR: Failed to load mib: ....
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:08] <ec1> oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:32] <ec1> you should fix that. 8-)
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:37] <creiht> Oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:42] <ec1> feels so good to say it the other way around
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:47] <creiht> I need to create a .mib file I guess?
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:48] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:10] <ec1> ya... plenty of examples laying around in $ZENHOME/share
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:31] <creiht> cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:44] <creiht> cool... The summary looks good now
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:03] <creiht> You guys rock!
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:06] <creiht> This is really cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:15] <ec1> btw, you can "history" and "drop" the event
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:26] <ec1> we have a customer site with over 200 mappings
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:45] <ec1> and they created most of them
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[12-Jul-2006 15:19:51] <Duf> hey when i try to install zenoss, i still get that zlib.so error in my log
[12-Jul-2006 15:19:58] <Duf> even though i have it in the proper directories
[12-Jul-2006 15:21:26] <Duf> i even include the --ignore-zlib option and the same error occurs
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[12-Jul-2006 15:50:48] <ec1> Duf: sorry to hear that... my best guess is that your installation is not using the python you recently built from the tarball from python.org
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:04] <Duf> i included the python folders
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:10] <Duf> in the install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:58] <ec1> if you feel adventurous, rename everything that starts with python in /usr/bin
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:11] <ec1> that will ensure they aren't used
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:18] <Duf> k
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:26] <ec1> oh, and delete $ZENHOME, which makes it's own link it python
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:53] <Duf> and don't recreate $ZENHOME?
[12-Jul-2006 16:00:09] <ec1> install.sh will recreate it
[12-Jul-2006 16:00:24] <ec1> as long as it has permissions to create the directory
[12-Jul-2006 16:01:56] <Duf> i did that but the same thing happened
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:02] <Duf> here's what i have in my install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:09] <Duf> in the for p loop
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:14] <Duf> i put
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:20] <Duf> for p in /usr/local/bin/python \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:39] <Duf> usr/local/bin/python2.3 \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:45] <Duf> usr/local/bin/python2.4 \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:49] <Duf> usr/bin/python2.4
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:51] <Duf> usr/bin/python
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:03] <Duf> usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python \
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:12] <Duf> usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python2.4
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[12-Jul-2006 16:03:21] <Duf> do
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:30] <Duf> and the rest of the preconfigured install.sh code
[12-Jul-2006 16:04:46] <ec1> then I don't know
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:22] <Duf> oh i think i did it
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:45] <Duf> i put /usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python after "for p in"
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:49] <Duf> in the install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 16:06:06] <Duf> and it successfully configured build/Zope-2.8.7-final/makefile
[12-Jul-2006 16:26:03] <Duf> now the zenbuild.log is showing "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[12-Jul-2006 16:28:26] <zaf> anyone else getting bombarded with the ANNOUNCE message on the mailing list?
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:26] <ec1> sooooo sorry
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:34] <ec1> we shutdown mail servers
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:42] <ec1> somedays it's not worth getting up
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[12-Jul-2006 16:51:29] <zaf> it happens
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[12-Jul-2006 16:55:00] <ecn> all: sorry about the spam-o-matic... we're still trying to figure out the problem, and we've shut down the mailing lists
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[12-Jul-2006 17:40:52] <Spec> what's up with bill's thousands of e-mails?
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[12-Jul-2006 18:29:10] <Insyte> So... email problems?
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[13-Jul-2006 03:08:42] <fdv99> Good day everybody. I have a question: I've downloaded the vmware image for Zenoss (version 0.21.0), Great program, working out of the box. Only the system doesn't have the correct time so i tried to run "date" but i need root privileges for that. Does someone know the password for the system account root? or maybe how i can use "su"?
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[13-Jul-2006 06:26:23] <fdv99> Good day everybody. I have a question: I've downloaded the vmware image for Zenoss (version 0.21.0), Great program, working out of the box. Only the system doesn't have the correct time so i tried to run "date" but i need root privileges for that. Does someone know the password for the system account root? or maybe how i can use "su"?
[13-Jul-2006 06:32:45] <oubiwann> yeah, this is a common question on the mail list
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[13-Jul-2006 06:32:58] <oubiwann> let me take a look...
[13-Jul-2006 06:34:28] <oubiwann> fdv99: yeah, just sudo su - root
[13-Jul-2006 06:34:44] <oubiwann> there is no root password set on the image
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[13-Jul-2006 07:05:08] <fdv99> i'll try.... moment
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[13-Jul-2006 07:07:12] <fdv99> you're right.... "sudo su - root" did the trick..... thanks. i tried it with only the "su" command
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[13-Jul-2006 09:25:16] <[Eric]> hi, I have a question. How can select WMI to scan Windows computers ? I only see SNMP, SSH and portscan when adding device.
[13-Jul-2006 09:25:57] <oubiwann> there's not currently support for WMI
[13-Jul-2006 09:26:41] <[Eric]> ok, so for scanning windows computers, what do I need to activate on it to be able to scan it ?
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:19] <oubiwann> hmm, WMI might actually be supported... I'm looking through this...
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:28] * oubiwann is not a windows guy
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:35] <[Eric]> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 09:29:48] <oubiwann> [Eric]: check this out, it might be helpful
[13-Jul-2006 09:30:19] <oubiwann> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/000364.html
[13-Jul-2006 09:30:40] <oubiwann> hmm, I think that's events related, and not general WMI though...
[13-Jul-2006 09:33:38] <[Eric]> i think too. Looking the screenshot on the website of Zenoss I see Windows 2003 server with full inventory, is this done using only snmp ?
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:04] <oubiwann> probably -- you want to use this for detailed windows snmp gathering:
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:16] <oubiwann> http://www.snmp-informant.com
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:16] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[13-Jul-2006 09:37:32] <[Eric]> woo that's not free...
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:00] <[Eric]> I was thinking that the SNMP service that come with Windows XP/2003 will do the job
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:10] <oubiwann> you want free? Use linux!
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:14] <oubiwann> sorry, couldn't resist
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:28] <[Eric]> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:49] <oubiwann> no, I'm pretty sure that snmp service is limited... MS licensing maybe?
[13-Jul-2006 09:39:16] <[Eric]> maybe
[13-Jul-2006 09:39:33] <[Eric]> I will look on this today
[13-Jul-2006 09:40:55] <oubiwann> I really don't know anything about it -- Erik Dahl and Eric Newton do
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[13-Jul-2006 10:53:36] <Duf> hey now i'm getting a mysql-python-install error
[13-Jul-2006 10:53:52] <Duf> after unpacking MYSQL-python-1.2.0
[13-Jul-2006 10:54:43] <Duf> cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
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[13-Jul-2006 10:55:35] <Duf> can you do an apt-get install for any packages
[13-Jul-2006 10:55:39] <Duf> to fix that
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[13-Jul-2006 10:57:33] <dcushing> I am having a problem installing zenoss on SuSe Enterprise 10 - I get an error when it is trying to build zope
[13-Jul-2006 11:00:36] <Duf> what is the error, dcushing?
[13-Jul-2006 11:00:45] <Duf> is it about zlib.so?
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:09] <Duf> navers
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:22] <Duf> i am not able to ping you
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:31] <Duf> since i am an unregistered user
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:45] <navers> mmm.
[13-Jul-2006 11:04:57] <navers> i'm not really sure why that's happening. i've run through an install on suse (month or so ago) and didn't encounter that
[13-Jul-2006 11:04:59] <dcushing> the problem occurs when it is doing the install, the install errors out with error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix not both
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:49] <Duf> cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:53] <dcushing> If I can figure out how to cut/paste from my VM machine screen to here may be a little more evident
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:53] <Duf> i wonder what that file is
[13-Jul-2006 11:06:58] <navers> you've got mysql-client and -server packages?
[13-Jul-2006 11:07:50] <navers> pretty sure those were the only mysql dependencies
[13-Jul-2006 11:07:52] <Duf> i have the server package
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:08] <dcushing> You need client, server, and devel packages
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:16] <dcushing> changing mode of /home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-scripts/test.py from 644 to 755
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:18] <Duf> can you do an apt-get install?
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:18] <dcushing> printf "Zope 2.8.7-final" >\
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:20] <dcushing> "/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/lib/python/version.txt"
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:22] <dcushing> /usr/bin/python2.4 "/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/setup.py" install \
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[13-Jul-2006 11:08:24] <dcushing> --home="/usr/local/zenoss" --build-base="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4" --build-lib="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-lib" --build-scripts="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-scripts" --build-temp="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-temp"
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:26] <dcushing> running install
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:28] <dcushing> error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:30] <dcushing> gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:32] <dcushing> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final'
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:34] <dcushing>
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:41] <navers> Duf: you should be able to
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:50] <dcushing> Sorry, that is my log tail
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:21] <Duf> navers: i downloaded the source from dev.mysql.org
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:23] <Duf> version 5.0.22
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:27] <Duf> is that just the server?
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:33] <Duf> or the client and devel, too?
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:37] <Duf> this was last week
[13-Jul-2006 11:10:35] <navers> version 5+ should work
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:39] <Duf> What does mysql-5.0.22.tar.gz consist of?
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:43] <Duf> because that's what i have been using
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:48] <Duf> even when the error occurs
[13-Jul-2006 11:13:31] <Duf> is that just the server?
[13-Jul-2006 11:14:05] <dcushing> I am not sure, I have the binaries as part of my distro
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[13-Jul-2006 11:17:20] <[Latino]> hi all
[13-Jul-2006 11:19:07] <navers> Duf: from www.mysql.com, the mysql-max-5.0.22 tarball should have everything you need
[13-Jul-2006 11:19:37] <navers> i'm not sure what mysql-5.0.22.tar.gz would have in it
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[13-Jul-2006 11:20:05] <Duf> thanks navers
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[13-Jul-2006 11:26:43] <Duf> navers: Is S/390X the SuSE version?
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[13-Jul-2006 11:29:07] <navers> you'll probably want Linux "(x86, glibc-2.2, "standard" is static, gcc)" version
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[13-Jul-2006 11:35:21] <Duf> thanks
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[13-Jul-2006 11:47:42] <creiht> edahl: So bug #176 bit me last night... But I found the changes that you made on the web site and it seems to have fixed the problem
[13-Jul-2006 11:48:12] <creiht> The other weird side effect is that those error tracebacks that we couldn't figure out how to fix have gone away now
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:03] <edahl> oh good I love it when things fix them selves
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:17] <edahl>
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:20] <creiht> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 11:50:51] <[Eric]> now that I see there's more people now :-) I'm still looking the way to use WMI to scan Windows computers, how can I use WMI ?
[13-Jul-2006 11:56:15] <[Eric]> When I add a new deveice I see SSH,portscan and SNMP, here's there something to do to have WMI support ?
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[13-Jul-2006 12:02:14] <creiht> [Eric]: Are you running zenoss on a Linux box or a Windows box?
[13-Jul-2006 12:03:07] <[Eric]> on a Linux, I'm testing it with the VM you have on the download section.
[13-Jul-2006 12:04:07] <creiht> [Eric]: I'm just a another user But it is my understanding that currently WMI monitoring is only available if you are running zenoss on a Windows box
[13-Jul-2006 12:04:30] <creiht> I think they have plans to add wmi monitoring from Linux
[13-Jul-2006 12:04:40] <[Eric]> ok
[13-Jul-2006 12:05:24] <[Eric]> so I will give a try on a windows box thanks for the info
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[13-Jul-2006 13:14:32] <level`> test
[13-Jul-2006 13:15:04] <level`> where can i find python-dev
[13-Jul-2006 13:15:41] <level`> hello
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[13-Jul-2006 14:23:45] <Duf> hey i am having trouble configuring mysql max
[13-Jul-2006 14:23:54] <Duf> i do a ./configure and it ends mysqld
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[13-Jul-2006 14:55:36] <HelloFromCanada> Newbie question > How do I setup a http monitor probe to check for the contents of a web page?
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[13-Jul-2006 16:43:30] <b_52Centos> do you know if fishstickz will be back ?
[13-Jul-2006 16:43:46] <Duf> i am still getting the same problem with -lmysqlclient_r
[13-Jul-2006 16:44:09] <Duf> even though i did a configure while installing the mysql source with the --enable-thread-safe-client argument
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[14-Jul-2006 08:43:23] <Duf> does anyone know anything about -lmysqlclient_r
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[14-Jul-2006 11:06:26] <Duf> hey, to run zenoss, what mysql do i need?
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:31] <Duf> i have the server and the client
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:33] <Duf> but i am missing a piece
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:46] <Duf> since the log says that it cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[14-Jul-2006 11:07:15] <Duf> and where can i download the missing piece?
[14-Jul-2006 11:11:31] <rexy> mysql-devel installed too?
[14-Jul-2006 11:11:49] <rexy> did you find any proper documentation on how to configure it?
[14-Jul-2006 11:12:09] <rexy> trying to set it up as well, but the doc's that came with the package are spares at best
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:39] <Duf> where can you find mysql-devel?
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:43] <Duf> is there a tarball file?
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:58] <Duf> is there a way you can download the mysql-devel kit by itself
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:34] <rexy> what linux distro are you on?
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:41] <Duf> I have SuSE 10.1
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:48] <rexy> apt-get install mysql-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:16:11] <rexy> you'll need apt-get installed for that
[14-Jul-2006 11:16:14] <rexy> otherwise use yast
[14-Jul-2006 11:18:21] <Duf> i have apt-get so i'll do that
[14-Jul-2006 11:18:55] <rexy> i've got it semi working here, fetches info from some machines, but some give weird parse errors
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:11] <Duf> is your zenoss working, though, rexy?
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:16] <Duf> with your mysql-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:20] <rexy> yeah
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:33] <rexy> though atm i'm using the vmware image
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:00] <rexy> at least after i installed that the install script would run ,etc
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:33] <Duf> oh ./install.sh?
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:41] <Duf> first error was a zlib error
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:43] <Duf> which i fixed
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:50] <Duf> now it's -lmysqlclient_r
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:09] <Duf> so it's near the end of the installation before it aborts
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:13] <Duf> so that's at least good
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:19] <Duf> that it's getting near being completely installed
[14-Jul-2006 11:22:45] <rexy> well it looks like a link flag to mysqlclient
[14-Jul-2006 11:23:12] <Duf> that's what i was thinking
[14-Jul-2006 11:25:07] <rexy> does it crap out during the compile? or is it python?
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:08] <Duf> it says "mysql-python-install" error
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:10] <Duf> i tail zenbuild.log
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:18] <Duf> and it says "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:19] <rexy> oh
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:21] <Duf> i have python 2.4.3
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:24] <rexy> got python-devel?
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:52] <rexy> dunno if that's needed tbh
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:59] <Duf> not sure, can i do an apt-get install for that?
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:03] <rexy> yup
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:11] <Duf> awesome, i'll try install.sh first
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:14] <Duf> and hopefully that will work
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:22] <Duf> if not i will download python-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:56] <rexy> it'll work
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:59] <rexy> runnin suse 10.1
[14-Jul-2006 11:30:01] <rexy> as well
[14-Jul-2006 11:30:04] <rexy> just checked
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:22] <rexy> did you get the binary or source install?
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:38] <Duf> source
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:39] <Duf> for mysql
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <Duf> it works better
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:49] <Duf> i got the mysql-max but that was a piece of garbage
[14-Jul-2006 11:33:32] <rexy> ah
[14-Jul-2006 11:37:56] <rexy> well i'm off, gl
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[14-Jul-2006 12:50:13] <creiht> edahl: I'm trying to set up some thresholds for process monitoring, but I want to only do it for certain device templates
[14-Jul-2006 12:50:36] <creiht> When I edit the perfconf for the template, I end up editing the global config
[14-Jul-2006 12:50:53] <creiht> Is there a way I can make a copy of that config for my template?
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:28] <edahl> you can copy/paste rrdtemplates
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:34] <edahl> just like in the ZMI
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:39] <creiht> hmm
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:45] <creiht> That is what I thought
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:46] <edahl> if you are on a particular process
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:55] <edahl> there is a button to make a local copy
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:02] <edahl> of the template
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:14] <creiht> But I don't se how to do it on the device template level
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:43] <creiht> For example I have created a JBOSS folder under Devices/Server/Linux/Dell
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:06] <creiht> I would like make a copy to use for any device in the JBOSS template
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:09] <edahl> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:12] <edahl> go to /Devices
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:19] <edahl> copy OSProcess
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:29] <creiht> ahhh
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:30] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:34] <edahl> then goto your JBOSS folder and paste it
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:34] <creiht> that makes sense now
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:36] <creiht> right
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:46] <creiht> I didn't see the check boxes when looking at the JBOSS folder
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:53] <creiht> since they were inherited I'm guessing
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:54] <creiht> cool
[14-Jul-2006 12:54:00] <edahl> exactly
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[14-Jul-2006 12:57:08] <creiht> edahl: So I have one more quick question
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:17] <creiht> If I set the Severity to 3
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:22] <creiht> And the Escalate Count to 5
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:34] <creiht> Does that mean that the first event will be of severity 3
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:40] <edahl> y
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:48] <creiht> and then if there are 5 in a row then it will escalate to 4?
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:52] <edahl> y
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:04] <creiht> ok will it keep going to 5 if there are 5 more?
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:48] <edahl> no
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:53] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:54] <creiht> cool
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:57] <creiht> That's perfect
[14-Jul-2006 12:59:00] <creiht> Thanks
[14-Jul-2006 13:00:16] <edahl> no problem
[14-Jul-2006 13:01:19] <creiht> The process monitoring is really helping us out
[14-Jul-2006 13:01:30] <edahl> cool!
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[14-Jul-2006 14:18:42] <creiht> edahl: I set a threshold for over 60 on cpu usage for a process
[14-Jul-2006 14:18:50] <creiht> But I am getting the following events:
[14-Jul-2006 14:19:03] <creiht> cpu_over threshold of 60 exceeded: current value 1183653888.00
[14-Jul-2006 14:19:25] <edahl> hum
[14-Jul-2006 14:20:09] <edahl> let me test it.
[14-Jul-2006 14:20:15] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 14:22:24] <edahl> ok i'm reproducing let me talk to ecn
[14-Jul-2006 14:23:59] <edahl> looks like a bug
[14-Jul-2006 14:24:05] <edahl> we are researching
[14-Jul-2006 14:24:17] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:14] <creiht> edahl: Future enhancement possibility: It would be nice to be able to enable/disable RRD thresholds so that I don't have to delete/re-create the threshold
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:26] <edahl> good one
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:30] <edahl> I will add bug
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:31] <creiht> I also noticed an oddity where the zenprocess.log logs when the service stops, but doesn't log when it starts
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:39] <edahl> #195
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:52] <creiht> cool
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[14-Jul-2006 16:06:52] <spd1snd> im fooling around with a new instance of zenoss and trying to zendisc... it's giving me: "ERROR:zen.Events:(1114, "The table 'status' is full")
[14-Jul-2006 16:06:56] <spd1snd> Error: (1114, "The table 'status' is full")"
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[14-Jul-2006 16:26:39] <edahl> yikes
[14-Jul-2006 16:26:47] <edahl> try stop and start of mysql
[14-Jul-2006 16:26:52] <edahl> as root
[14-Jul-2006 16:27:09] <edahl> do you have lots of events?
[14-Jul-2006 16:27:23] <edahl> in status
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[14-Jul-2006 17:31:19] <creiht> edahl: Any luck figuring out what was causing the bug with the process monitoring?
[14-Jul-2006 17:31:33] <edahl> yes we fixed it I believe
[14-Jul-2006 17:31:46] <edahl> On monday I will try to get 21.1 out
[14-Jul-2006 17:32:03] <edahl> I need to pull changes from the trunk to the branch
[14-Jul-2006 17:32:38] <edahl> the trunk isn't too stable right now so I wouldn't upgrade to that
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:29] <creiht> cool... I'll check back on monday
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:36] <creiht> Thanks for the help
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:49] <edahl> no problem have a good weekend
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:58] <creiht> ya'll too
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[14-Jul-2006 17:50:42] <creiht> edahl: okay... so another small issue
[14-Jul-2006 17:50:56] <creiht> A couple of our servers that we are monitoring
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:14] <creiht> We have SMTP monitoring enabled
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:37] <creiht> The problem is that the connection some how stays open for about an hour before going away
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:52] <creiht> On most of the other servers there is no problem
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:00] <creiht> Any idea of what might cause a problem like that?
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:31] <edahl> not sure what you mean
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:44] <edahl> the connection from zenstatus stays open?
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:04] <creiht> The logs show
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:21] <creiht> imeout waiting for input from monitoring.server.com during server cmd read
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:25] <creiht> And if you do a ps
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:36] <creiht> You see about 60 open connections to sendmail
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:04] <creiht> all from the monitoring server
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:20] <edahl> not sure why
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:31] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:34] <edahl> try adding "quit" to the SMTP service
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:37] <creiht> We'll keep poking at it
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:38] <edahl> send string
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:44] <creiht> pl
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:51] <edahl> and add 220 to the expect regex
[14-Jul-2006 17:55:02] <edahl> the test system will send quit
[14-Jul-2006 17:55:10] <edahl> maybe that will make send mail exit properly
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:06] <creiht> If I want to send two strings... wil \n send the return?
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:15] <creiht> so could I set it to something like
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:25] <creiht> MAIL\nQUIT
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:42] <edahl> don't know its what ever the protocol says
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:44] <creiht> We are currently sending it mail so we don't get a log message every minute
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:57] <edahl> i see
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:01] <edahl> maybe that's the problem
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:15] <edahl> I think smtp line termination is \r\n
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:16] <creiht> But it is weird that it doesn't happen on other servers
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:31] <edahl> different versions of sendmail?
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:42] <edahl> maybe postfix would work better
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:44] <creiht> checking
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:46] <creiht> hehe
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:50] <creiht> I wish we used postfix
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:01] <creiht> unfortunately these boxes are maintained by another group
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:38] <creiht> The software tab in zenoss finally becomes very usefull
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:48] <creiht> exact same versions
[14-Jul-2006 18:00:10] <edahl> hum
[14-Jul-2006 18:00:20] <creiht> I'm going to try a couple of experiments
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:07] <edahl> cool
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:31] <edahl> I need to jump
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:42] <edahl> let me know how it goes...
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[14-Jul-2006 18:08:40] <austinnichols102> does zenoss do discovery of non-snmp windows boxen by default?
[14-Jul-2006 18:10:36] <creiht> austinnichols102: It should if you choose to use portscan instead of snmp
[14-Jul-2006 18:11:04] <austinnichols102> tks - trying to make my way through the admin guide but it wasn't completely clear
[14-Jul-2006 18:12:34] <austinnichols102> anywhere else I can read about how to do that?
[14-Jul-2006 18:15:33] <creiht> austinnichols102: Hmmm... I'm not sure... I figure most of it out by either experimentation or by asking here
[14-Jul-2006 18:15:57] <creiht> austinnichols102: You might look through the mailing list archives as a lot of questions get answered there as well
[14-Jul-2006 18:16:14] <austinnichols102> found a forum message that talks about changing zCollectorCollectPlugins
[14-Jul-2006 18:16:26] <austinnichols102> I'm assuming that there's a file floating around somewhere
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:21] <austinnichols102> cool - found it. You add 'portscan.IpServiceMap' into /devices zProperties - zCollectorCollectPlugins
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:33] <creiht> ahh cool
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:40] <creiht> That's new to me... and good to know
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:43] <austinnichols102> but not intuitive
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[17-Jul-2006 13:28:52] <zaf> Here's a question.. I'm monitoring network interfaces of firewalls, and polling tells Zenoss that the maximum capacity of an interface is 100 megabits. However, I know that I actually have a 3 megabit ISP link. Where would I go to change it so that my alerts for high bandwidth usage show up at 75% of 3 megabits, rather than 75% of 100 megabits?
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[17-Jul-2006 15:34:03] <Duf> hey i configured zenoss and started all the services, is it supposed to automatically pick up the network?
[17-Jul-2006 15:34:52] <creiht> Duf: Not unless you tell it to
[17-Jul-2006 15:37:42] <Duf> how do you do that?
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[17-Jul-2006 15:39:54] <creiht> Duf: You use $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:12] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:18] <creiht> run $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc help
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:25] <creiht> to see available options
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:29] <Duf> thanks
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:35] <creiht> I haven't actually used it myself
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:54] <Duf> i take it disc means discovery
[17-Jul-2006 15:41:28] <creiht> yes
[17-Jul-2006 15:41:54] <amodlin> Duf: if you're doing an autodiscover of your network, you may want to specify the range of IPs to scan if you don't want it to scan 65,000 IPs
[17-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <zaf> 2006-07-17 14:41:15 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Error: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <zaf> Failure: exceptions.AttributeError: Failure instance has no attribute '__len__'
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:06] <zaf> I get that when i start zenperfsnmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:14] <amodlin> for example, $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc --net x.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:23] <creiht> zaf: Have you added any devices yet?
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:28] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:33] <zaf> lots. this happened since i upgraded to .21
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:47] <creiht> hmmm
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:50] <creiht> That is odd
[17-Jul-2006 15:44:12] <creiht> At this point I would poke ecn or edahl... but I haven't seen them all day
[17-Jul-2006 15:44:19] <zaf> yeah..
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:01] <Duf> i did 3 --net arguments
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:05] <Duf> one for 10.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:07] <Duf> one for 172.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:10] <Duf> and one for 192.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:15] <creiht> zaf: Last I heard they were shooting to release a minor update today to fix some bugs
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:26] <zaf> hmm
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:28] <Duf> i did a $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc start --net 10.x.x.x
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[17-Jul-2006 15:46:03] <creiht> Duf: I think you should probably do a run instead of start
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:16] <Duf> much better
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:25] <amodlin> ok, actually what's the net you're trying to do it on? like 10.1.10.0 to 10.1.10.254?
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:35] <amodlin> yeah
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:58] <Duf> 10.0.0.0 to 10.0.255.255
[17-Jul-2006 15:47:04] <amodlin> oh ok
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[17-Jul-2006 15:50:38] <Duf> i ran it
[17-Jul-2006 15:50:53] <Duf> and no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2
[17-Jul-2006 15:51:08] <amodlin> is that the IP of the server?
[17-Jul-2006 15:51:37] <amodlin> i think you don't have SNMP set up for the machine running the Zenoss server...to auto discover you need it
[17-Jul-2006 15:54:48] <Duf> then i'll have to manually find the machines?
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:18] <amodlin> no, not necessarily. Have you check out the section in the Zenoss admin guide on Auto-discovery?
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:41] <Duf> not yet
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:50] <Duf> i basically want it to monitor all of the servers in the workgroup
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:54] <amodlin> ok
[17-Jul-2006 15:56:18] <amodlin> well, an autodiscovery would definately be the best thing to do in that situation. is it possible for you to install SNMP on the zenoss server?
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:11] <Duf> yeah could i do an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:25] <amodlin> yep
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:30] <amodlin> apt-get net-snmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:42] <amodlin> err, apt-get install net-snmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:50] <Duf> awesome
[17-Jul-2006 16:00:01] <amodlin> and you'll have to configure it to be in the same SNMP community as the rest of your devices, after that you should be good
[17-Jul-2006 16:00:30] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:15] <Duf> it's already the newest version
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:19] <Duf> i did an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:35] <Duf> how would i configure it to be in the same snmp community?
[17-Jul-2006 16:03:05] <amodlin> to be honest, i really have no idea how to set it up in linux. if you posted to the list i'm sure someone could help you out
[17-Jul-2006 16:04:12] <Duf> awesome
[17-Jul-2006 16:15:25] <creiht> Duf: You edit /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[17-Jul-2006 16:15:52] <creiht> There are a lot of comments in the file that should assist you with setting it up
[17-Jul-2006 16:16:00] <creiht> But there is one line where you set the community
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:22] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:47] <Duf> there are 3 lines
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:53] <Duf> 1: syslocation Server Room
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:02] <Duf> 2: syscontact Sysadmin (root@localhost)
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:12] <Duf> 3: rocommunity public 127.0.0.1
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:54] <creiht> Duf: Hmmm and that is it?
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:21] <creiht> I have something that looks like
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:22] <Duf> the rest of the lines are commented out
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:48] <creiht> com2sec systems POLLER_IP COMMUNITY_NAME
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:05] <creiht> group SOMEGROUPNAME v1 systesm
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:18] <creiht> view systemview included .1 80
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:45] <creiht> access SOMEGROUPNAME "" any noauth exact systemview none none
[17-Jul-2006 16:22:30] <creiht> That's a fairly basic setup that opens everything up for the given COMMUNITY_NAME
[17-Jul-2006 16:22:54] <Duf> so the large spaces are tabs?
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:01] <Duf> and those are all of the lines in the file?
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:27] <creiht> Duf: They are just spacing... I just put arbitrary spaces for reading
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:30] <creiht> and there is much more
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:37] <creiht> let me see if I can find a better example
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:58] <Duf> you could email it to me at welucarell@ysu.edu
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:39] <creiht> Duf: Check out http://www.snmpview.de/snmpd_conf.php
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:39] <adytum-bot> Title: snmpd.conf (at www.snmpview.de)
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:55] <Duf> cool then never mind the email
[17-Jul-2006 16:29:34] <Duf> i use SuSE 10.1
[17-Jul-2006 16:30:09] <Duf> i'm afraid that com2sec may not work with SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:28] <creiht> Duf: Hmmm... I'm not completely familar with SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:36] <creiht> Are you using net-snmp?
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:47] <Duf> yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:00] <creiht> Hmmm... I would think that the configuration would be the same
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:03] <creiht> But who knows
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:31] <Duf> k i'm making a backup copy
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:35] <Duf> and writing up a new one
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:39] <creiht> cool
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:17] <Duf> mynetwork
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:20] <Duf> i'm confused about that
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:29] <Duf> it monitors several networks
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:31] <Duf> 172.25.0.x
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:52] <creiht> mynetwork is just a name
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:57] <creiht> You can name it whatever
[17-Jul-2006 16:36:14] <creiht> and the ip address is the address to accept queries from, so you want that to be the ip of your polling server
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:05] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:16] <Duf> what is a polling server? i'm new to networking, i specialize in java programming fyi
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:57] <creiht> ahh
[17-Jul-2006 16:38:07] <creiht> the polling server is the server you are running zenoss on
[17-Jul-2006 16:44:28] <Duf> k
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[17-Jul-2006 16:50:26] <Duf> what about groups and models?
[17-Jul-2006 16:50:57] <j-ochoa> hello
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:02] <j-ochoa> help me
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:15] <j-ochoa> I install Zenoss in a CentOS 4.3
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:20] <j-ochoa> but have error
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:26] <creiht> Duf: I would copy the MyROGroup
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:36] <j-ochoa> gmake: *** [svn-install] Error 1
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:38] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:47] <Duf> is that automatically recognized as a read-only group?
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:54] <creiht> Duf: and use v1 for sec.model
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:08] <creiht> Duf: Yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:17] <creiht> I think
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:23] <creiht> I'm still a bit new at this as well
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:46] <Duf> and for the read-write host, it can be local
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:03] <Duf> we don't need the v2c and usm stuff, do we?
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:26] <creiht> nope
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:30] <creiht> brb
[17-Jul-2006 16:54:32] <j-ochoa> gmake: *** [svn-install] Error 1
[17-Jul-2006 16:54:36] <j-ochoa> help me
[17-Jul-2006 16:56:17] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:58:38] <Duf> is CentOS linux, j-ochoa?
[17-Jul-2006 16:58:56] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:45] <Duf> do you have APT?
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:50] <Duf> where you can do an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:52] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:00] <Duf> you may be missing a package
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:11] <Duf> this happens during ./install.sh? right?
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:42] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:45] <Duf> or do you do a svn command from the unix prompt?
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:50] <Duf> i just do ./install.sh
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:54] <Duf> because i run SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:39] <j-ochoa> yes svn from unix prompt
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:48] <Duf> i've never done it that way
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:50] <Duf> sorry
[17-Jul-2006 17:03:08] <j-ochoa> apt have this package ?
[17-Jul-2006 17:03:36] <amodlin> can you run svn help at prompt?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:05:27] <kaponoob> hello
[18-Jul-2006 09:06:06] <kaponoob> where I can get documentation for zenoss?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:13:08] <gumpa> kaponoob: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/browser/trunk/inst/docs/ZenossAdminGuide.pdf?format=raw pdf of administration guide
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:16] <gumpa> http://www.zenoss.org/download/install.html
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <gumpa> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Install : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:34] <gumpa> http://blueheron.livejournal.com/145996.html
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:34] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:35] <adytum-bot> Title: blueheron: Zenoss (at blueheron.livejournal.com)
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[18-Jul-2006 09:50:25] <Duf> good morning amodlin
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:29] <Duf> what's up
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:39] <Duf> i edited the snmpd.conf file
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:44] <Duf> but still doesn't work
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:55] <Duf> i think i need the group ip
[18-Jul-2006 09:51:06] <Duf> i'm going to ask someone at work
[18-Jul-2006 09:53:15] <amodlin> hey, good morning
[18-Jul-2006 09:53:28] <amodlin> Duf: that's odd: you still cant perform an autodiscovery?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:59:39] <Duf> i need the ip for the community
[18-Jul-2006 09:59:42] <Duf> but i don't know who has it
[18-Jul-2006 10:02:17] <kaponoob> thanx
[18-Jul-2006 10:07:01] <amodlin> I'm not POSITIVE but I think the IP for the community should be that of the Zenoss server
[18-Jul-2006 10:08:34] <Duf> that's the polling ip
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[18-Jul-2006 10:19:53] <amodlin> hm...
[18-Jul-2006 10:23:34] <amodlin> I'm really not sure...if you'd like the next time edahl or ecn have a moment I can ask them for you
[18-Jul-2006 10:25:06] <Duf> k thanks amodlin
[18-Jul-2006 10:25:19] <amodlin> anytime, sorry for the confusion
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[18-Jul-2006 12:33:37] <[Ericj]> Hi Edahl, any developements on Zenwin docs ?
[18-Jul-2006 12:33:48] <edahl> working on them as we speek
[18-Jul-2006 12:33:52] <edahl> speak
[18-Jul-2006 12:34:57] <edahl> should be up this afternoon
[18-Jul-2006 12:35:25] <[Ericj]> good.
[18-Jul-2006 12:36:52] <[Ericj]> it will be available on the website ?
[18-Jul-2006 12:47:54] <edahl> yep the files are up on SF.net already
[18-Jul-2006 12:48:00] <edahl> if you want to download
[18-Jul-2006 12:48:10] <edahl> no docs yet though
[18-Jul-2006 12:52:13] <[Ericj]> thanks
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[18-Jul-2006 17:49:06] <landonf> er. one can't edit their ticket after creation?
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:56] <landonf> I'd like to attach a patch to http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/198
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:57] <adytum-bot> Title: #198 ([PATCH] Support for user-supplied event database name) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:57] <landonf> heh
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[18-Jul-2006 17:52:28] <landonf> hrmph.
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[18-Jul-2006 18:07:52] <erg[1]> anyone here used the vmware zenoss image?
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[18-Jul-2006 18:41:02] <erg[1]> no one's here, huh?
[18-Jul-2006 18:42:04] <landonf> I'm here, but I've never used the vmware image
[18-Jul-2006 18:43:36] <emmanuel_gomez> maybe my question is more general: I don't know how to start using Zenoss
[18-Jul-2006 18:44:06] <landonf> It's a little bit rough around the edges in that regard.
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[18-Jul-2006 18:45:05] <emmanuel_gomez> well, is there some straight-forward way to kick off a scan?
[18-Jul-2006 18:45:47] <emmanuel_gomez> actually, is that generally the best way to get started?
[18-Jul-2006 18:46:05] <emmanuel_gomez> or have I totally misunderstood how it's meant to work...?
[18-Jul-2006 18:48:45] <emmanuel_gomez> landonf: any pointers?
[18-Jul-2006 18:49:07] <emmanuel_gomez> I've found hardly any 'Getting Started' docs via Google
[18-Jul-2006 18:50:29] <landonf> Not especially, I'm still in the process of getting started myself.
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:10] <emmanuel_gomez> you have it installed & setup?
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:16] <landonf> Yeah
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:29] <landonf> It's not monitoring anything, though
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:32] <emmanuel_gomez> you've scanned some hosts or devices on your network
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:35] <emmanuel_gomez> oh...
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:42] <landonf> That's what I'm working on right now
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:56] <emmanuel_gomez> have you sorted any of it out yet?
[18-Jul-2006 18:52:20] <emmanuel_gomez> sorry to pester you, but I'm really excited about Zenoss (in concept), I just can't figure out how to get started with it
[18-Jul-2006 18:53:55] <landonf> Not quite, I'm still adding metadata
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:04] <landonf> (locations, groups, manufacturers)
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:10] <landonf> I'll have snmp running on a test system in a bit
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:35] <emmanuel_gomez> so you have to configure the metadata first?
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:59] <landonf> I don't know that you have to, but it seemed like a good place to start
[18-Jul-2006 18:55:33] <emmanuel_gomez> do you know if it's feasible to configure a subset of all the useful metadata, to get started testing?
[18-Jul-2006 18:55:57] <landonf> Looks to be
[18-Jul-2006 18:56:37] <emmanuel_gomez> once you have metadata in there, what next?
[18-Jul-2006 18:57:25] <landonf> I'll try using auto-discovery
[18-Jul-2006 18:57:56] <emmanuel_gomez> do you launch that via the web ui, or command line?
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:13] <landonf> 'zendisc', via the command line.
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:19] <landonf> Running it right now, actually
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:37] <landonf> I configured a network in the web UI, and then: ./bin/zendisc run --net 192.168.1.0
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:15] <emmanuel_gomez> where did you find info on zendisc?
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:24] <landonf> ZenossAdminGuide.pdf
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:36] <emmanuel_gomez> hahahhah RTFM, I suppose
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:55] <emmanuel_gomez> I hate pdf docs, tho... damn adobe reader soaks up memory like it was going out of style
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:20] <landonf> Preview.app is nice, but hey, you need a mac for that :_
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:27] <landonf> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = 192.168.55.10
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:32] <landonf> Neat-o.
[18-Jul-2006 19:01:01] <landonf> Now I just need snmp to work
[18-Jul-2006 19:01:20] <emmanuel_gomez> at home I use a mac + preview, but here at work.... it's windows
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:09] <landonf> hmm, autodiscovery picked up snmp on my lab machine just fine.
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:26] <emmanuel_gomez> did you setup snmp metadata first?
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:40] <landonf> I didn't add any mibs or anything.
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:55] <emmanuel_gomez> did it find routers & stuff, or just hosts?
[18-Jul-2006 19:24:25] <landonf> Just hosts. My routers aren't listening via snmp.
[18-Jul-2006 19:39:36] <landonf> Anyone know what the difference between DataCollector and SnmpCollector is?
[18-Jul-2006 19:39:44] <landonf> They seem to duplicate snmp code
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[18-Jul-2006 20:01:14] <Mulder> hi, someont I've tried zenwin ?
[18-Jul-2006 20:01:17] <Mulder> hi, someone I've tried zenwin ?
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[18-Jul-2006 20:55:15] <emmanuel_gomez> this thing (zenoss) takes forever to start
[18-Jul-2006 20:55:35] <emmanuel_gomez> this 8 daemon thing is pretty hard on the hardware
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[19-Jul-2006 19:28:16] <landonf> hrm. Totally want SNMPv3
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[19-Jul-2006 21:30:53] <AdamsFung> hi everyone
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[21-Jul-2006 10:22:08] <train`> Hello, I have a problem with zenoss when adding new device
[21-Jul-2006 10:22:40] <train`> if discovery protocol is set to snmp, and snmp port is different from standard 161
[21-Jul-2006 10:22:57] <train`> zenoss can't discover the device
[21-Jul-2006 10:23:35] <train`> running tcpdump on the device, shows that zenoss still attempt to discover on standard 161 port, instead of the defined by me
[21-Jul-2006 10:23:42] <train`> can anyone help?
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[21-Jul-2006 11:14:00] <creiht> edahl: Hey... have you guys made that bugfix release yet?
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:22] <edahl> I will release it today
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:36] <edahl> sorry I got distracted
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:36] <creiht> cool...
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:40] <creiht> No biggie
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:42] <creiht> I did too
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:51] <creiht> Having to swtich hats to Java
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:16] <creiht> I'll probably install it on Monday then
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:28] <edahl> actually its already done for got to post
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-0.21.0.tar.gz
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> hehe
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> cool
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> no my bad that's not it
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> sorry misread
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> ahhh
[21-Jul-2006 11:20:21] <edahl> done
[21-Jul-2006 11:20:35] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-0.21.1.tar.gz
[21-Jul-2006 11:21:29] <creiht> edahl: cool thanks
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[21-Jul-2006 11:51:28] <zaf> woohoo
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[21-Jul-2006 11:58:46] <edahl> just simple bug fixes
[21-Jul-2006 12:02:23] <zaf> well i'm about to reinstall so it's good to have
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[22-Jul-2006 04:59:56] <niheconomoum> is anyone using zenoss with an existing zope installation?
[22-Jul-2006 05:00:09] <niheconomoum> or existing zope instances?
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[24-Jul-2006 04:53:31] <giesen> has anyone attempted a gentoo ebuild yet?
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[24-Jul-2006 09:52:28] <maigaur> hello
[24-Jul-2006 09:55:00] <Hatter> hi
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[24-Jul-2006 10:08:32] <maigaur> one question
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:42] <maigaur> how can i send an alarm
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:44] <maigaur> by mail
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:47] <maigaur> by example
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:54] <maigaur> is ping is down on my computer
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:55] <maigaur> ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:15:56] <maigaur> ?
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[24-Jul-2006 10:33:48] <maigaur> someone help ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:35:36] <creiht> maigaur: You add an alerting rule to a user
[24-Jul-2006 10:35:49] <maigaur> yep
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:17] <maigaur> i create a user using the menu on the left
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <maigaur> then i modify his properties
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:33] <maigaur> ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:59] <creiht> You click on the Alerting Rules tab
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:23] <creiht> and then type in a name for the rule in the box, and click the Add button
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:34] <creiht> Then click on the rule to edit its properties
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:39] <creiht> And you can enable it
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:52] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 10:39:03] <creiht> The default properties will send you an email on any event that is an Error or higher level
[24-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <maigaur> great
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:32] <maigaur> in alerting rules
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:39] <maigaur> is it sending a mail
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:42] <maigaur> for all devices
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:49] <maigaur> recognized ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:15:17] <edahl> all events of all devices with severity >= Error
[24-Jul-2006 11:16:23] <zaf> i think i may have asked this before, but is there a way to zendisc just a single IP?
[24-Jul-2006 11:21:01] <creiht> zaf: I know you can do it through the UI by adding a device
[24-Jul-2006 11:22:00] <zaf> i think i found my answer. I need to make the subnets first
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:33] <maigaur> is the alert working for all kind of users ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:46] <maigaur> there is an admin account
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:54] <maigaur> then what is the difference
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:59] <edahl> no alert rules are per user
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:01] <maigaur> between the other accounts ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:20] <edahl> admin is top level zope user
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:28] <edahl> you can do ZMI config using it
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:40] <edahl> be careful though
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:42] <edahl>
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:58] <maigaur> in fact
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:03] <maigaur> i want to know
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:05] <maigaur> which users
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:09] <maigaur> can receive mails
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:15] <maigaur> if a service is down
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:37] <edahl> go to ZenUsers
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:44] <edahl> and look at there alerting rules
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:08] <maigaur> manager, zenmonitor and zenuser
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:14] <maigaur> can receive the alerts
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:21] <maigaur> no problem with that ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:38] <edahl> those are roles not users
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:53] <maigaur> i have a user
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:55] <maigaur> maigaur
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:58] <maigaur> zenuser
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:06] <edahl> zenuser is read only
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:06] <maigaur> email and password set
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:11] <maigaur> but
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:18] <edahl> might want to be manager
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:19] <maigaur> i can give him an alert rule
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:28] <zaf> does Manager role have the same level access as Admin?
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:39] <edahl> yes for all zenoss object
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:40] <edahl> s
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:43] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:57] <edahl> your account should be manager (so you can edit the config)
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:01] <maigaur> edahl, which role do you suggest
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:07] <maigaur> to receive the alerts
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:09] <maigaur> manager ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:14] <edahl> doesn't matter
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:39] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:55] <maigaur> a zenuser will receive his mail
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:06] <maigaur> if I give him the default alert
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:07] <maigaur> but
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:15] <maigaur> what will be written in the mail ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:30:09] <edahl> what ever is in your rules format string
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[24-Jul-2006 12:06:27] <zaf> how come i'm not able to move a device to /Devices/Network/Router/TerminalServer ?
[24-Jul-2006 12:08:07] <edahl> this is a bug
[24-Jul-2006 12:08:37] <edahl> try removing $ZENHOME/Products/ZenModel/TerminalServer.py and restarting zope
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:46] <zaf> and am I right in assuming TerminalServer is for things like serial port servers?
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:51] <edahl> hum that didn't work
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:53] <edahl> yes
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:57] <zaf> thanks
[24-Jul-2006 12:12:21] <edahl> ok make sure you delete the .pyc file too
[24-Jul-2006 12:12:35] <edahl> and delete the reference to it in __init__.py
[24-Jul-2006 12:14:09] * edahl checked in this fix
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[24-Jul-2006 12:16:42] <zaf> that fixed it, thanks
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:21] <creiht> edahl: I have noticed a couple of times now zenstatus seems to just stop polling
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:39] <edahl> how often?
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:58] <edahl> I think I have seen this as well but never any good error
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:58] <creiht> If I look at the logs, I'll see a poll every minute and then it just stops with no errors
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:00] <edahl> message
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <creiht> right
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <edahl> right
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:07] <edahl>
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:12] <creiht> Every couple of days
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:21] <edahl> wow that's more then I have seen
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:32] <edahl> I'm going though that code right now
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:36] <creiht> Last time it happened was Friday evening
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:46] <creiht> And it just now happened again
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:47] <edahl> it will get a big refresh when we add more service checks
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:24] <creiht> It isn't too big of a deal as it sends me a page when it stops, and I can restart it
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:36] <edahl> sure
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:42] <edahl> still quite annoying
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:45] <creiht> yes
[24-Jul-2006 12:50:17] <zaf> how long should it be before graphs start to show up for discovered devices?
[24-Jul-2006 12:54:36] <edahl> 5mins or so
[24-Jul-2006 12:54:53] <zaf> hrm
[24-Jul-2006 12:55:41] <edahl> well it can take configcycle to re-read the config of what to pole
[24-Jul-2006 12:55:52] <edahl> default is 20mins
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:26] <zaf> 2006-07-24 11:54:21 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionRefusedError: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:26] <zaf> ]
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:47] <edahl> your zenperfsnmp.conf has bad login info
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:15] <zaf> ahh
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:19] <zaf> i changed zope to listen on port 80
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:26] <edahl> that would do it
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:30] <zaf>
[24-Jul-2006 13:03:59] <zaf> now i get this once a minute: 2006-07-24 12:01:13 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Devices status is not clearing. Restarting.
[24-Jul-2006 13:07:24] <edahl> means it didn't get through the list of stuff to poll
[24-Jul-2006 13:07:31] <edahl> do you have a lot?
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:24] <zaf> increasing the cycle time to 180 now
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:32] <zaf> i didnt think i had a lot of devices yet, but maybe
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:47] <edahl> we can poll over 400 devices in 60 secs
[24-Jul-2006 13:09:05] <zaf> hmm
[24-Jul-2006 13:09:15] <zaf> maybe since it's running zendisc at the same time
[24-Jul-2006 13:12:02] <zaf> hrm.. yeah, something's wrong
[24-Jul-2006 13:12:15] <zaf> set to 3 minutes and only have 33 devices
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[24-Jul-2006 13:17:16] <edahl> stop zenperfsnmp
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:23] <edahl> run in the forground
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:29] <edahl> zenperfsnmp run -v10
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:33] <edahl> with debuging on
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/univ.py", line 143, in _berEncode
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> raise error.BadArgumentError('Short Object ID for %s' % \
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> pysnmp.asn1.encoding.ber.error.BadArgumentError: Short Object ID for ObjectName
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:42] <edahl> yuck
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[24-Jul-2006 13:19:56] <zaf> so i need to find out which device has a bad short object id
[24-Jul-2006 13:21:59] <edahl> have you modified the perf templates?
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:06] <edahl> we looked at that part of the code
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:22] <edahl> its checking to make sure an oid has more than 2 characters
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:49] <zaf> yeah, i have
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:10] <zaf> there we go
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:33] <zaf> i guess it was a bad idea to add other templates to the Device RRDTemplate
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:57] <edahl> its normal to do that
[24-Jul-2006 13:26:03] <edahl> just need to be careful
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[24-Jul-2006 14:11:55] <zaf> if a device is in /Devices/Network/Router/Firewall, it should inherit the RRDTemplates of that path, right?
[24-Jul-2006 14:19:30] <edahl> y
[24-Jul-2006 14:20:06] <zaf> and that updates on a Config Cycle?
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[24-Jul-2006 14:30:02] <edahl> correct
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:08] <edahl> or restart
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:21] <edahl> you can test against a single device
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:22] <edahl> with
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:32] <edahl> zenperfsnmp run -d DEVICE -v10
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:46] * edahl needs full device name that's in zenoss
[24-Jul-2006 14:31:55] <zaf> nice
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:25] <F1re4fect> Is the root password for the VMWare download available?
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:40] <ecn> sudo su - # as zenoss
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:43] <ecn> FAQ
[24-Jul-2006 14:37:43] <F1re4fect> Where's the FAQ?
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:13] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:13] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:31] <F1re4fect> Cool, thanks
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:37] <edahl> no worries
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[24-Jul-2006 14:49:08] <zaf> anybody have any luck with reading the interfaces on Dell PowerConnect switches?
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:32] <edahl> do you get a trace?
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:38] <edahl> try
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:43] <zaf> 2006-07-24 13:46:02 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Error reading value for "Ethernet Interface" on 10.20.8.5 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.1 is bad)
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:46] <zaf> i get that in the logs
[24-Jul-2006 14:50:34] <edahl> hum no packet stats on it maybe?
[24-Jul-2006 14:50:56] <zaf> maybe.. some of the interfaces seem to work
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[25-Jul-2006 09:19:04] <maigaur> hello
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[25-Jul-2006 09:47:03] <maigaur> hello
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:15] <edahl> hey
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:26] <maigaur> edahl, I have almost finished
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:33] <maigaur> my zenoss configuration
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:38] <edahl> cool
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:45] <maigaur> now i would like to know
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:52] <maigaur> how to send alerts
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:56] <maigaur> only for persons
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:59] <maigaur> sorry
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:04] <maigaur> for computers located under
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:32] <maigaur> i would also like to be informed about the wan access
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:44] <maigaur> how to receive alerts
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:58] <maigaur> when free space disc is under 10%
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:12] <maigaur> CPU is above 85%
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:18] <maigaur> how to monitor
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:26] <maigaur> a VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 09:50:06] <edahl> thresholds are configured in RRDTemplates (under tab PerfConfig)
[25-Jul-2006 09:50:29] <edahl> there should be examples for CPU and disc space (filesystem space)
[25-Jul-2006 09:51:00] * edahl set them to severity Error or Critical
[25-Jul-2006 09:51:22] <edahl> and the default paging rule will send hte alerts
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[25-Jul-2006 09:57:14] <maigaur> zenoss is also often slow
[25-Jul-2006 09:57:22] <maigaur> it is strange, it wasn t berfore
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[25-Jul-2006 11:51:10] <creiht> edahl: I got an alert again last night that zenstatus stopped again, and then it magically began working again about 15 minutes later
[25-Jul-2006 11:51:38] <edahl> maybe backup delayed heartbeat?
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[25-Jul-2006 12:14:48] <maigaur> edahl ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:14:55] <edahl> y
[25-Jul-2006 12:15:26] <maigaur> where can i find threshold ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:16:12] <edahl> in rrdtemplate
[25-Jul-2006 12:16:20] <edahl> under /Devices PerfConfig tab
[25-Jul-2006 12:17:46] <maigaur> ok
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:01] <maigaur> i found, then click on local copy
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:04] <maigaur> in fact
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:08] <maigaur> the alertts
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:10] <maigaur> are defined
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:14] <maigaur> by thresholds
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:18] <maigaur> and graphs
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:03] <maigaur> is it possible to define other types of alerts on zenoss
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:16] <maigaur> such as monitoring WAN
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:20] <maigaur> VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:27] <maigaur> space disc lowx
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[25-Jul-2006 12:19:59] <maigaur> ecn can u help me ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:20:47] <ecn> erik (edahl) will be back in a bit
[25-Jul-2006 12:21:45] <maigaur> k
[25-Jul-2006 12:21:55] <maigaur> i need to see
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:02] <maigaur> if my antivirus is running
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:09] <maigaur> currently i am using host monitor
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:24] <maigaur> is it possible to do the same things with Zenoss ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:25:38] <maigaur> ecn, do you know how i can monitor only some PCs, not all as it is set by the default rule
[25-Jul-2006 12:25:40] <maigaur> ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:28:11] <maigaur> is it working if I enter
[25-Jul-2006 12:28:11] <maigaur> DeviceGroups = /Server/Windows
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[25-Jul-2006 12:38:11] <edahl> maigaur: i'm back had client issue
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> [zenoss@zenoss ~]$ zenperfsnmp run
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> Unhandled error in Deferred:
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/web/xmlrpc.py", line 262, in handleResponse
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> self.factory.parseResponse(contents)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:01] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/web/xmlrpc.py", line 293, in parseResponse
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:03] <maigaur> self.deferred.callback(response[0][0])
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:05] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 229, in callback
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:07] <maigaur> self._startRunCallbacks(result)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:09] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 294, in _startRunCallbacks
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:11] <maigaur> self._runCallbacks()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:13] <maigaur> --- <exception caught here> ---
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:15] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 307, in _runCallbacks
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:17] <maigaur> self.result = callback(self.result, *args, **kw)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:19] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 307, in setUnresponsiveDevices
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:21] <maigaur> self.readDevices()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:23] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 329, in readDevices
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:25] <maigaur> self.startReadDevice(self.queryWorkList.pop())
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:29] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 355, in startReadDevice
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:31] <maigaur> d = chain.run()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:33] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Chain.py", line 31, in run
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:35] <maigaur> self.next()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:37] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Chain.py", line 38, in next
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:39] <maigaur> self.callable(next).addCallbacks(self.success, self.failure)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:41] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 353, in getLater
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:43] <maigaur> return proxy.get(oids, proxy.timeout, proxy.tries)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:45] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twistedsnmp/v3/agentproxy.py", line 82, in get
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:47] <maigaur> self.send(request.encode())
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:49] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:51] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:53] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:55] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:59] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:01] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:03] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/ze
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <maigaur> i have the following errors on zenoss :/
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:29] <edahl> can you email me the trace can't really read that
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:36] <edahl> edahl at zenoss dot com
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:22] <maigaur> it is too bad
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:28] <maigaur> it was working
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:30] <maigaur> can u tell me
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:32] <maigaur> also
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:40] <maigaur> how i can add the monitoring
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:44] <maigaur> of for example
[25-Jul-2006 12:43:05] <maigaur> a VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 12:43:10] <maigaur> or my antivirus is running
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[25-Jul-2006 12:55:52] <edahl> don't really understand the question is antivirus on windows / linux can it be monitored as a service or process...
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[25-Jul-2006 13:15:59] <zaf> if i wanted to create an RRDDataSource for tcpActiveOpens, how would I find the OID for that?
[25-Jul-2006 13:20:02] <ecn> snmpwalk -On -v 1 -c public localhost TCP-MIB::tcpActiveOpens.0
[25-Jul-2006 13:20:23] <ecn> clue: "-On"
[25-Jul-2006 13:22:24] <zaf> thanks
[25-Jul-2006 13:53:26] <korozion> how do I restart a running instance of zenoss?
[25-Jul-2006 13:53:33] <korozion> just restart zope?
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[25-Jul-2006 13:58:14] <korozion> nevermind, I'm retarded
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[25-Jul-2006 14:11:44] <landonf> Is it possible to use perfmon to monitor non-SNMP sources?
[25-Jul-2006 14:11:50] <landonf> eg, run a command line tool?
[25-Jul-2006 14:12:04] <landonf> Our game servers expose an XML-RPC interface for getting load statistics, so I'd like to plug into that
[25-Jul-2006 14:17:05] <creiht> landonf: I don't think there is specifically that capability at this moment as I have asked for very similar functionality
[25-Jul-2006 14:17:16] <creiht> Now that said there are some ways you could work around it
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:28] <creiht> You could send snmp traps to zenoss to notify of specific events
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:45] <creiht> You can also send events to zenoss through xmlrpc
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:57] <creiht> Though this is only for events, and will not show you performance graphs
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:03] <landonf> Yeah, I was thinking about doing that to trigger events.
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:08] <edahl> landonf: creiht is right
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:24] <edahl> we are going to add an xml-rpc perf interface at some point
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:31] <landonf> I've got some engineering resources to spare on the problem. If we added support for arbitrary commands, would that be accepted?
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:39] <edahl> I'm working on integration of nagios stile plugins right now
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:46] <edahl> that might also work
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:15] <edahl> I think that is basically what I'm doing with nagios plugins
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:20] <edahl> input is command line
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:29] <edahl> output is first line of stdout
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:09] <edahl> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:09] <landonf> I was looking at your changeset there. Really 'arbitrary commands' is a duplication of the nagios plugin support.
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:10] <edahl> its a little gross
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:10] <edahl> right
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:12] <edahl> would this work for you?
[25-Jul-2006 14:25:54] <landonf> Hmm, yeah, we could implement a simple xml-rpc client as a "nagios" plugin.
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:19] <landonf> Alternatively we could take a look at the generic XML-RPC support, as just about everything we do is either available via SNMP or XML-RPC.
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:43] <edahl> if you can do it we will put it in
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:45] <edahl>
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[25-Jul-2006 14:27:17] <landonf> On that note, any comments on #199?
[25-Jul-2006 14:27:56] <edahl> it will be in 0.22
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:02] <edahl> just haven't gotten to it
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:17] <edahl> shooting for monday release which might slip a bit
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:36] <landonf> Neat! Thanks
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:17] <edahl> can you fill out the contrib form?
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <edahl> http://www.zenoss.org/participate/contribute.html
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Contribute : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.org)
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <edahl> lawyer stuff
[25-Jul-2006 14:32:18] <landonf> Not too unusual. Just submitted it.
[25-Jul-2006 14:32:31] <edahl> great
[25-Jul-2006 14:33:25] <landonf> I have to say that I'm very excited to see something available as well thought out as Zenoss. It really fills an important niche.
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[25-Jul-2006 14:34:39] <landonf> Hey jon
[25-Jul-2006 14:34:49] <leplast> Hey
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[25-Jul-2006 14:35:42] <landonf> edahl: Jonathan is looking at the generic XML-RPC client work; mind if he bothers you with some questions?
[25-Jul-2006 14:35:58] <edahl> no problem
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:15] <leplast> Where do you think this should live in the interface?
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:24] <leplast> Quite a few tabs already and trying to avoid another
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:45] <edahl> hum good poing
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:46] <edahl> t
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:52] <leplast> We would mainly be interested in basically using it as another Perf source I think but I don't want to limit the usefulness elsewhere
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:10] <edahl> hum
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:29] <edahl> i'm adding a nagios tab right now
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:40] <edahl> to deviceclass and device
[25-Jul-2006 14:39:04] <edahl> we need second tier of tabs
[25-Jul-2006 14:41:57] <landonf> Does it need to be a seperate tab from perfconf? Or could RRDDataSources just be expanded?
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:09] <landonf> OID | XML-RPC | ... ?
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:32] <edahl> sure if that works for your setup
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:50] <edahl> do we expect one xml-rpc call per data point?
[25-Jul-2006 14:43:25] <edahl> just wondering are you polling a custom app?
[25-Jul-2006 14:44:16] <landonf> Yeah, we're polling our game servers (www.puzzlepirates.com && www.banghowdy.com)
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[25-Jul-2006 15:07:19] <edahl> cool
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[25-Jul-2006 15:14:35] <deezthugs> i just got zenoss up and running in our testbed. I was wondering where all of the device data is stored? I only see an "events" database in mysql
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[25-Jul-2006 15:15:44] <edahl> in zeo
[25-Jul-2006 15:15:48] <edahl> zope object db
[25-Jul-2006 15:15:54] <deezthugs> ah ok
[25-Jul-2006 15:16:15] <deezthugs> i am a python developer just never used zope
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[25-Jul-2006 15:25:32] <edahl> cool
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[25-Jul-2006 15:29:51] <deezthugs> I was wondering how I could use the resulting network and device database created by zenoss as raw data for a Django application. Would I want to use the ZCatalog interface to the zope data?
[25-Jul-2006 15:29:53] <gravitron> hi, I've just downloaded the virtual appliance that was posted to VMTN, and I'm curious what the root password is. I've not found it in any of the provided documentation
[25-Jul-2006 15:30:46] <ecn> it's now an FAQ:
[25-Jul-2006 15:30:51] <ecn> sudo su - # as zenoss
[25-Jul-2006 15:31:47] <gravitron> ah
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[25-Jul-2006 15:33:46] <ecn> 8-)
[25-Jul-2006 15:33:51] <creiht> laughs
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:16] <ecn> it took me a couple of minutes to figure out (the sudo thing)
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:32] <edahl> dezzthugs: you can open a connection to the zeo database from your python code
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:42] <edahl> zendmd
[25-Jul-2006 15:35:03] <edahl> is a program that will let you navigate zeo at python prompt
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[25-Jul-2006 15:40:19] <deezthugs> ahh cool
[25-Jul-2006 15:40:22] <deezthugs> thanks
[25-Jul-2006 15:40:51] <edahl> are you going to write the new zenoss front end in djano?
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:19] <deezthugs> heheh
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:34] <deezthugs> i think the zenoss front end looks good
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:43] <deezthugs> we could use it here for a lot by itself
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:01] <deezthugs> i think we need to use the data generated by it in other django apps
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:10] <edahl> got it
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:35] <deezthugs> there are many legacy perl apps here that use a mysql db with devices/nets/users/ etc
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[25-Jul-2006 15:46:55] <deezthugs> i was hiope zenoss kept it all in mysql
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:41] <edahl> no but you can also get stuff through xml-rpc
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:45] <edahl> from zope
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:47] <zaf> ok i'm stumped. I'm trying to add tcpActiveOpens as a graph to my firewall devices. that object isn't tied to a particular interface, so i'm having a hard time finding out where it goes when i create it
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:11] * edahl put it in your Device template
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:20] <edahl> its like cpu
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:22] <edahl> I think
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:27] <zaf> ah
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:44] <edahl> one per device correct?
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:49] <edahl> ends with .0
[25-Jul-2006 15:49:06] <zaf> right
[25-Jul-2006 15:49:25] <deezthugs> that sounds like a possibility
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[25-Jul-2006 15:58:42] <zaf> where will the graph show up if it's not on an interface?
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[25-Jul-2006 15:58:55] <edahl> "Perf" tab on device
[25-Jul-2006 15:59:08] <edahl> you need to add a graph for your data as well though
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[25-Jul-2006 16:18:20] <zaf> would the type be guage?
[25-Jul-2006 16:18:28] <zaf> er, gauge
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:33] <edahl> here is another very handy command
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:34] <edahl> snmptranslate -Td TCP-MIB::tcpActiveOpens
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:41] <edahl> its a counter
[25-Jul-2006 16:20:13] <zaf> does counter mean that it only increases?
[25-Jul-2006 16:20:48] <zaf> ah, informative
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:11] <edahl> yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:21] <edahl> counter always get bigger
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:55] <ecn> until it doens't: they wrap
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[25-Jul-2006 16:45:57] <gravitron> how does one add a MIB?
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[25-Jul-2006 16:52:53] <zaf> can numeric values in custom properties be used for thresholds?
[25-Jul-2006 16:53:39] <zaf> I want to be able to tell if an interface is using 75% of its ISP link speed, not just its ethernet link
[25-Jul-2006 16:53:52] <zaf> gravitron, from the command line, zenmib run <mibfile>
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:30] <gravitron> ah ok
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:43] <gravitron> question, if you have 1+ years of rrd data in cacti, can you import it into zenoss?
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:50] <gravitron> same with any nagios configs?
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:09] <zaf> not that i know of
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:12] <gravitron> hrm
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:21] <gravitron> any possibility of a new feature?
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:50] <zaf> not that i know of
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:55] <gravitron> doh
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:26] <edahl> zaf: yes you can put a number in the threshold just replace the here.speed
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:32] <edahl> no on nagios imports
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:47] <edahl> at this point
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:57] <zaf> edahl, i can't do it by putting the name of the custom variable instead?
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:59] <edahl> (we don't event support the plugins yet)
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:07] <edahl> yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:12] <edahl> zaf: yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:26] <edahl> address the variable like
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:41] <edahl> hum wait
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:54] <edahl> custom var is per device not interface will that work?
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:01] <zaf> i tried just the plane cXxx name, but that didn't work
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:07] <zaf> per device works for me
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:20] <zaf> as long as it will work in the interface thresholds
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:30] <edahl> ok in threshold do here.cXxx instead of here.speed
[25-Jul-2006 17:02:49] <zaf> works! woohoo!
[25-Jul-2006 17:03:04] <edahl> cool
[25-Jul-2006 17:06:33] <gravitron> is there a command line option for zenmib that will dump more debugging?
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[25-Jul-2006 17:06:39] <gravitron> I've got a MIB that isnt importing
[25-Jul-2006 17:11:32] <ecn> on the branch, there is
[25-Jul-2006 17:11:37] <ecn> ooops... on the trunk, that is
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[25-Jul-2006 17:12:33] <gravitron> maybe you can help
[25-Jul-2006 17:12:50] <gravitron> I'm trying to import the SNMP-Informant MIB which requires the WTCS MIB
[25-Jul-2006 17:13:20] <gravitron> INFORMANT doesnt import anything, and WTCS imports 2 nodes, but nothing else
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[25-Jul-2006 17:17:12] <gravitron> dcx
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:16] <_dc_> hi
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:21] <gravitron> hooked eh
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:26] <_dc_> still d/ling
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[25-Jul-2006 17:20:10] <gravitron> ok time to go home
[25-Jul-2006 17:28:26] * dc is away. Automatically set away [SZ on ]
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[25-Jul-2006 17:42:36] <gumpa> gravitron: try pasting the WTCS file to the top of the SNMP-Informant file
[25-Jul-2006 17:43:30] <gumpa> that worked for me
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[25-Jul-2006 21:28:29] <ngugi> hi
[25-Jul-2006 21:28:39] <ngugi> anyone home ?
[25-Jul-2006 21:28:54] <ngugi> need some help with zenoss install on fedora 5
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[26-Jul-2006 09:19:13] <maigaur> hello help
[26-Jul-2006 09:48:44] <amodlin> hello
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[26-Jul-2006 09:50:51] <amodlin> maigaur: what's the problem? maybe I can help
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:01] <maigaur> hello amodlin
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:08] <amodlin> hello
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:22] <maigaur> do you know if it is prossible to monitor processes with zenoss ?
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:33] <maigaur> or services
[26-Jul-2006 09:52:02] <amodlin> yes zenoss can monitor processes and services
[26-Jul-2006 09:54:43] <maigaur> under ms windows ?
[26-Jul-2006 09:55:23] <amodlin> yep, you can monitor then using zenwin
[26-Jul-2006 09:55:30] <amodlin> them*
[26-Jul-2006 09:58:22] <maigaur> how can i use that N
[26-Jul-2006 09:58:23] <maigaur> ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:02] <amodlin> do you already have zenoss installed?
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:06] <maigaur> yep
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:45] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:12] <amodlin> you need to download Zenwin onto your windows machine and configure it...
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:14] <amodlin> let me find you a link
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:16] <maigaur> k
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[26-Jul-2006 10:02:50] <amodlin> which version of zenoss are you running?
[26-Jul-2006 10:03:41] <maigaur> vmware version
[26-Jul-2006 10:03:51] <maigaur> under a suse box
[26-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:05:01] <amodlin> go ahead and download: http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenwin-0.21.0.zip
[26-Jul-2006 10:05:02] <amodlin> check out the readme in there and if you have any questions or problems just let me know
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:13] <maigaur> i can t download
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:15] <maigaur> pywin
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:20] <maigaur> the link is broken
[26-Jul-2006 10:21:00] <amodlin> ok let me find you a link to pywin32
[26-Jul-2006 10:24:28] <amodlin> oh sorry the readme is a typo
[26-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <amodlin> try http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32
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[26-Jul-2006 10:29:02] <maigaur> not working :/
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:46] <amodlin> you cant get to the sourceforge site?
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:52] <maigaur> nop
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:54] <maigaur>
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:57] <amodlin> hmmmm wierd
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:02] <maigaur> is it working
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:07] <maigaur> from you office ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:11] <amodlin> yes
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:18] <amodlin> actually it may have just gone done
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:20] <amodlin> let me check
[26-Jul-2006 10:31:16] <maigaur> l
[26-Jul-2006 10:31:17] <maigaur> k
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:12] <amodlin> hmm yeah it does seem to be down at the moment
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:22] <amodlin> actually it just loaded
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:47] <amodlin> which version of python are you using?
[26-Jul-2006 10:34:51] <amodlin> this link should be working, just download pywin32 for whatever vers of python you are using
[26-Jul-2006 10:35:17] <amodlin> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=78018&package_id=79063&release_id=432365
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:13] <maigaur> not working
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:19] <maigaur> can u send me by mail
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:22] <maigaur> please
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <amodlin> sure
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:33] <amodlin> what's your email
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:56] <amodlin> and what version of python are you running, so i can get you the right one
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:36] <maigaur> aurel102001@hotmail.com
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:44] <maigaur> python 2.4
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:50] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:51] <amodlin> will do
[26-Jul-2006 10:41:17] <amodlin> Ok, check your inbox :-)
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[26-Jul-2006 10:48:45] <maigaur> arf
[26-Jul-2006 10:48:53] <maigaur> seems i didn"t receive it
[26-Jul-2006 10:50:48] <maigaur> will try tomorrow
[26-Jul-2006 10:50:55] <maigaur> can you send it back please
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:03] <maigaur> aurel102001@hotmail.com
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:09] <maigaur> maignan1@et.esiea-ouest.fr
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:13] <amodlin> it is AUREL102001@hotmail.com right?
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:15] <amodlin> with an L
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:18] <maigaur> yep
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:23] <amodlin> ok, sure thing
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <amodlin> I wonder, maybe hotmail filters out .exe
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:36] <maigaur> :/
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:45] <maigaur> can you zip it please ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:53:30] <amodlin> I'll see what I can do...I'm on a Mac
[26-Jul-2006 11:01:01] <amodlin> maigaur: ok I'm sending you a zip of it now
[26-Jul-2006 11:26:14] <maigaur> good
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[26-Jul-2006 11:53:36] <amodlin> maigaur: did you ever get the email?
[26-Jul-2006 12:22:07] <creiht> doh.... Where's edahl when you need him
[26-Jul-2006 12:22:55] <creiht> Has anyone else had problems with zenstatus hanging, and not completing?
[26-Jul-2006 12:28:25] <Aziraphale> only zenstatus problem right now is that it insists on testing http even though it's turned off...
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:17] <creiht> Aziraphale: All of a sudden zenstatus is hanging for me
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:27] <creiht> In my logs I see something like
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:22:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 2.02 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:23:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 2.01 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:41:38 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 1046.02 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:38] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:59:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 1056.26 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:30:05] <creiht> I'm not sure what would cause it to jump from 2 seconds to 1046 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:30:29] <Aziraphale> sounds lika a time-out somewhere...
[26-Jul-2006 12:31:03] <zaf> that is a lot of seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:08] <Aziraphale> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/210
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:08] <adytum-bot> Title: #210 (log time to run status monitors) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:11] <Aziraphale> might be that
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:28] <Aziraphale> oh, log, not long. D'oh
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:33] <creiht> hehe
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:54] <creiht> If i manually run it like zenstatus run -v1
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:04] <creiht> It runs through a bunch of stuff
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:09] <creiht> And then just sits there
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:24] <creiht> I don't see any errors
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:09] <Aziraphale> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/1951 <-- maybe that broke something?
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:09] <adytum-bot> Title: [1951] - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:31] <creiht> Weird... now it seems to be working
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:04] <creiht> Or maybe that fixes it
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:21] <creiht> I'm not running trunk
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:53] <Aziraphale> ah ok, yeah could be
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[26-Jul-2006 18:57:44] <giesen> I keep getting zExceptions.BadRequest: The id "dmd" is invalid - it is already in use.
[26-Jul-2006 18:57:50] <giesen> when I try to install
[26-Jul-2006 18:57:53] <giesen> can anyone help me out with this?
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[26-Jul-2006 23:29:55] <giesen> anyone around?
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[27-Jul-2006 08:18:55] <gravitron> does zenmib support the 'FROM' syntax in MIBS?
[27-Jul-2006 08:19:21] <gravitron> I've got VMWare MIBs that have references to a ROOT VMWare MIB (which I've already imported)
[27-Jul-2006 08:19:44] <gravitron> and it will import the mib, but it has 0 contents!
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[27-Jul-2006 09:22:40] <maigaur> hello help
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[27-Jul-2006 09:53:17] <maigaur> hello
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[27-Jul-2006 10:40:01] <maigaur> hello help
[27-Jul-2006 10:41:55] <gumpa-away> maigaur: try just asking the question
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:03] <maigaur> ok
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:13] <maigaur> i would like to monitor
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:17] <maigaur> services under zenoss
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:24] <maigaur> but don t want to use zenwin
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:35] <maigaur> do you know any way to do it ?
[27-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <gumpa-away> is this of help? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToSendEvent
[27-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <adytum-bot> Title: HowToSendEvent - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[27-Jul-2006 10:44:24] <gumpa> ping gravitron
[27-Jul-2006 10:45:02] <gumpa> gravitron: did you get the SNMP-informant mib loaded?
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[27-Jul-2006 10:47:42] <maigaur> snmp-informant
[27-Jul-2006 10:47:44] <maigaur> loaded
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[27-Jul-2006 11:00:07] <irubado> anyone know of a way to move perf info to listing of devices, next to 'PING' and 'SNMP'
[27-Jul-2006 11:00:40] <irubado> i have a group of cisco gateways, with perf monitoring Active Calls. It would be great if that info was viewable when looking at the list of devices.
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[27-Jul-2006 11:26:35] <maigaur> hell
[27-Jul-2006 11:38:43] <maigaur> o*o
[27-Jul-2006 11:44:19] <irubado> hi
[27-Jul-2006 11:44:38] <irubado> anyone in here know how to hack the status monitors?
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[27-Jul-2006 20:18:06] <giesen> anyone around?
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[28-Jul-2006 09:03:59] <zaf> morning
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[28-Jul-2006 10:27:23] <maigaur> hello
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:49] <maigaur> i need to know something
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:52] <maigaur> in zenoss menu
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:54] <maigaur> we have
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:02] <maigaur> a choice
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:10] <maigaur> services and processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:27] <maigaur> how can i add my processes and services in it
[28-Jul-2006 10:34:59] <creiht> maigaur: For processes you create a new process and set a regex it can use to find that process
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:17] <creiht> Then re-discover the device, and it should find that process
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:29] <maigaur> all the processes on a device
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:40] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:23] <maigaur> i created a process test
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <maigaur> regex test
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:57] <creiht> Any process that matches that regex
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:58] <maigaur> regex should be the name of my process ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:59] <creiht> For example
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:01] <creiht> yes
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:10] <creiht> For example I monitor apache
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:17] <creiht> So I have a regex of httpd
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:25] <creiht> And it finds my apache processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:30] <maigaur> okay
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:36] <maigaur> so you set the name you want
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[28-Jul-2006 10:37:52] <maigaur> and after regex name of the process
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:55] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:57] <maigaur> for services
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:13] <maigaur> is there a similar way to do the same thing ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:17] <creiht> maigaur:I'm not so sure about
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:26] <creiht> I haven't added any services yet
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:32] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:45] <creiht> maigaur: I would ask ecn or edahl
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:51] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:52] <maigaur> thx
[28-Jul-2006 10:39:08] <edahl> no services you need to discover using snmp
[28-Jul-2006 10:39:15] <edahl> ssh or portscan
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:30] <maigaur> i have found this on the internet
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.4.2.1.7
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> to detect services status
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.77.1.2.3.1.1
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> to know the name of all services which running
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:40] <maigaur> dsi13 my computer
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:44] <maigaur> i=of course
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:55] <maigaur> is it possible to add this graphically
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:56] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:14] <edahl> we can add services using WMI
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:27] <edahl> thats the 77 oid
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:38] <edahl> process table is as creiht described
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:13] <maigaur> i have add httpd for my apache too
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:20] <maigaur> how can i see it
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:27] <maigaur> on zenoss interface
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:54] <creiht> maigaur: Under the os tab
[28-Jul-2006 10:44:05] <creiht> You should see a list of processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:44:15] <creiht> You can click on it to get the performance info
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:29] <creiht> Of course if you just added it, it will be a bit before the performance data is available
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:44] <maigaur> in os
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:46] <maigaur> i have
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:49] <maigaur> interfaces
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:51] <maigaur> ip services
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:56] <maigaur> file systems
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:57] <maigaur> routes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:02] <maigaur> but no processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:17] <creiht> For me I have
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:21] <creiht> Interfaces
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:24] <creiht> Os Processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:27] <creiht> and then
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:29] <creiht> IP Services
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:44] <maigaur> oh
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:47] <creiht> Did you re-collect the configuration
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:54] <creiht> for that machine
[28-Jul-2006 10:47:30] <maigaur> i don t i forgot
[28-Jul-2006 10:47:31] <maigaur> :/
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:01] <maigaur> i have created one process
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:06] <maigaur> in processes menu
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:08] <maigaur> name test
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:15] <maigaur> and regex httpd
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:22] <maigaur> i collected configuration
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:24] <maigaur> but
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <maigaur> on the manage tab
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:46] <maigaur> but i stil don t have the OS processes under my device
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:36] <creiht> When you collected the configuration, did you see a message saying that it found the process?
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:58] <maigaur> don t think so
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:59] <creiht> And also just to make sure... When you created the process, did you set the Monitor attribute to True?
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <maigaur> when you add a process
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:26] <maigaur> he becomes available to all the devices ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:36] <creiht> yes
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:53] <creiht> You have to set Monitor to true though
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:00] <creiht> on the Process
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:27] <maigaur> zmonitor was true
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:28] <maigaur> i have
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:32] <maigaur> /osProcessClasses/test
[28-Jul-2006 10:57:58] <creiht> maigaur: Is the device that you want to monitor a Linux or Windows box?
[28-Jul-2006 10:58:14] <maigaur> i want to monitor a windows machine
[28-Jul-2006 10:58:30] <maigaur> but from a linux box, i use vmware server and client on linux
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:21] <creiht> hmmm... I haven't done process monitoring for Windows boxes yet... I'm not sure if you have to do anything differently
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:27] <creiht> pokes edahl
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:58] <edahl> we have it running on a client site no problem
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:11] <edahl> not sure that there is an http process on windows
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:28] <edahl> need to check the process list first
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:43] <creiht> maigaur: Yeah I was just going to access... If you look at the task manager on the windows box, what is the process name you want to monitor?
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:17] <maigaur> outlook
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:21] <maigaur> for example
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:57] <creiht> maigaur: Then I would set the regex to that process name
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:10] <maigaur> ok great
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:17] <maigaur> i am doing collect configuration
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:31] <maigaur> but it seems not to be working
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:33] <maigaur> at this time
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:37] <maigaur> it is very slow
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:49] <creiht> give it a moment
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:06] <maigaur> k
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:14] <maigaur> it has advanced a little bit
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:26] <maigaur> is it normal that it is slower like that ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:48] <creiht> maigaur: I'm not sure but I know that the speed varies for me
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:59] <creiht> sometimes it is slower sometimes faster
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:41] <maigaur> i still dont have processes
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:44] <maigaur> menu
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:52] <maigaur> interfaces ip Services
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:55] <maigaur> one is missing
[28-Jul-2006 11:18:28] <creiht> maigaur: Hmmm
[28-Jul-2006 11:18:58] <creiht> I'm not sure... Sorry... At this point it is beyond my knowledge of zenoss
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:33] <maigaur> edahl
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:46] <maigaur> to monitor services
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:53] <maigaur> i add the oid 77 ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:57] <maigaur> under perfconf
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:59] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:04] <maigaur> but
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:11] <maigaur> it is not datas to graph
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:19] <maigaur> how can i have a tab
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:24] <maigaur> like IP services
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:31] <maigaur> with my services up and down
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:36] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:16] <maigaur> zenoss can do all i want
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:19] <maigaur> so i am happy
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:37] <edahl> you need zenwin for windows service monitoring
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:38] <maigaur> but my final point is to have services and processes monitoring
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[28-Jul-2006 11:46:56] <maigaur> is there any other way
[28-Jul-2006 11:46:59] <maigaur> to get services
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:05] <maigaur> than installing zenoss
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:06] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:42] <maigaur> arf
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:45] <maigaur> zenwin
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:48] <maigaur> sorry :/
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[28-Jul-2006 14:40:09] <edahl> zaf: we got the basket! thanks so much!
[28-Jul-2006 14:46:36] <edahl> landonf: you there?
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[28-Jul-2006 16:16:17] <zaf> edahl, no problem, just wanted to show our appreciation for the free help on irc
[28-Jul-2006 16:16:30] <edahl> thanks!
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[28-Jul-2006 18:06:14] <giesen> anyone know how to configure zenmib.conf?
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[29-Jul-2006 12:07:36] <giesen> Can anyone help with a PerfConfig problem?
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[30-Jul-2006 06:58:26] <TheHaunted> Hello all
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[30-Jul-2006 15:27:28] <giesen> how do I add a tcp service to be monitored in a server?
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[31-Jul-2006 05:12:07] <maigaur> hey
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[31-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur> hello
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[31-Jul-2006 10:09:54] <giesen> Can anyone lend a hand with getting notifications working properly?
[31-Jul-2006 10:10:09] <giesen> by properly I mean at all
[31-Jul-2006 10:12:40] <creiht> giesen: What problems are you having?
[31-Jul-2006 10:20:56] <giesen> it doesnt send mail at all
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:02] <giesen> and I cant for the life of me figure out why
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:29] <giesen> severity >= 4 and prodState = 1000
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:35] <giesen> action is Email
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:42] <giesen> enabled is true
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:47] <giesen> delay is 0
[31-Jul-2006 10:22:08] <giesen> and there's definitely some level 4 events
[31-Jul-2006 10:23:57] <creiht> giesen: Is the server linux or windows?
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:03] <giesen> linux
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:06] <giesen> gentoo to be precise
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:24] <giesen> using ssmtp as the mail daemon
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:41] <giesen> I'm just switching it out with postfix now so I can actually get some logging
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:03] <creiht> giesen: Ahh ok that was going to be my next question was to make sure you were running a mail agent
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:18] <giesen> I was able to send mail fine manually using ssmtp
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:34] <giesen> so I dont think zenoss is even trying
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:41] <giesen> but there really should be a "test alert" function
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:45] <creiht> giesen: Check $ZENHOME/log/zenactions.log
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:52] <giesen> to verify mail is working
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:57] <creiht> And see if there are any error messages
[31-Jul-2006 10:26:56] <giesen> 2006-07-31 10:24:02 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 0 rules in 0.01 secs
[31-Jul-2006 10:27:02] <giesen> my log is *filled* with that
[31-Jul-2006 10:27:03] <creiht> hmmm
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[31-Jul-2006 10:27:31] <creiht> How long ago did you create the alert?
[31-Jul-2006 10:28:13] <giesen> ages and ages
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[31-Jul-2006 10:28:24] <giesen> like 2 days
[31-Jul-2006 10:28:26] <giesen> erm 3 days
[31-Jul-2006 10:29:20] <creiht> Well that rules out the delay for re-loading the configuration
[31-Jul-2006 10:30:44] <creiht> giesen: For grins sake... have you tried restarting zenoss?
[31-Jul-2006 10:30:49] <giesen> yep
[31-Jul-2006 10:31:07] <creiht> That is odd... Which version of zenoss are you running?
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:09] <giesen> 0.20.1
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:12] <giesen> or whatever the latest is
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:30] <creiht> gotcha
[31-Jul-2006 10:33:27] <creiht> I would watch for edahl to come in and ask him about it
[31-Jul-2006 10:34:29] <creiht> I can't think of anything else to check
[31-Jul-2006 10:39:15] <giesen> Im just trying to make sure I'm not doing anything fundamentally wrong
[31-Jul-2006 10:39:18] <giesen> since I'm new to it
[31-Jul-2006 10:40:35] <creiht> giesen: From everything you have told me it sounds like you are doing it right... I have several different alert notifications set up here and works great
[31-Jul-2006 10:40:48] <creiht> I'm just another user though
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:00] <giesen> can you tell me something
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:09] <giesen> does zenoss use the sendmail command
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:12] <giesen> to send mail
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:19] <giesen> or just connect to port 25 on the local machine
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:11] <giesen> okay
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:13] <giesen> I found the problem
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:15] <creiht> giesen: It uses the built in Zope mail functionality
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:18] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:27] <giesen> which apparently just connects to port 25 on the local machine
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:31] <giesen> which is why ssmtp wasnt working
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:35] <creiht> Ahhh
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:37] <giesen> but it's working now that I just installed postfix
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:55] <creiht> good
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:09] <giesen> well it's good now that I know what it does
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:20] <giesen> but I'd rather it use the send mail command
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:25] * giesen tries to break stuff
[31-Jul-2006 10:50:57] <creiht> giesen: I'm pretty sure that the Zope mail functionality is pluggable, so there might be a plug in out there that does that
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:24] <maigaur> hello
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:38] <maigaur> i am using zenoss for a weeks now
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:43] <maigaur> i am happy, it works
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:53] <maigaur> but i would like to monitor
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:03] <maigaur> my processes and services
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:12] <maigaur> without having to install
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:14] <maigaur> zenwin
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:20] <maigaur> i tried to add
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:23] <maigaur> manually
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:28] <maigaur> with regex
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:34] <maigaur> on the zenoss web interface
[31-Jul-2006 10:57:28] <maigaur> in the processes menu
[31-Jul-2006 10:57:36] <maigaur> but i can t see it in the OS tab :/
[31-Jul-2006 11:12:28] <giesen> yeah my next big thing will be manually adding tcp/udp ports to monitor
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[31-Jul-2006 11:41:26] <giesen> creiht: do you know what the Escalate Count in a threshold is?
[31-Jul-2006 11:42:22] <creiht> giesen: After an event has been received the number of times in Escalate Count in a row, it will up the severity one notch
[31-Jul-2006 11:43:42] <creiht> Another way to put it, if you are running the polling defaults, is that after n minutes of an event, the severity of the event will be escalated
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:46] <giesen> ah ok
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:53] <giesen> I figured it was something like that
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:58] <giesen> but I figured it was more like seconds
[31-Jul-2006 11:45:28] <creiht> Well it it by the number of events, and by default things are polled every minute
[31-Jul-2006 11:45:33] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:17] <creiht> You can tell it how long to delay (in seconds) before sending you an alert notification when defining that alert
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:29] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:39] <giesen> how do you define the polling interval?
[31-Jul-2006 11:50:09] <creiht> giesen: I'm not completely sure... I tried playing with that once, and I lost my performance graphs
[31-Jul-2006 11:50:20] <creiht> ecn or edahl should be able to help you with that
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[31-Jul-2006 14:58:39] <giesen> ah I looked in the release notes for trunk
[31-Jul-2006 14:58:48] <giesen> it specifically tells you you have to delete your graphs
[31-Jul-2006 14:58:58] <giesen> if you change the polling interval
[31-Jul-2006 14:59:08] <giesen> I managed to break my notification again
[31-Jul-2006 14:59:29] * giesen sends in a feature request
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[31-Jul-2006 15:22:51] <rputzler> Anyone run across any documentation regarding how to setup rrd templates? I set one up but it is never getting used.
[31-Jul-2006 15:55:22] <giesen> yeah I had the same problem
[31-Jul-2006 15:55:29] <giesen> you have to rename it to "Device"
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[31-Jul-2006 16:01:29] <rputzler> Hmm, I did that it worked, but what I haven't figured out is how to get different devices to use different templates.
[31-Jul-2006 16:07:56] <giesen> yeah Im still learning things too
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:08] <giesen> I have no idea how to get them to use different templates
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:16] <giesen> I tried making a local copy of a template for one device
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:22] <edahl_> you need to override the template further down in the device class path
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:25] <giesen> because it kept complaining about my /dev filesystem being full
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:34] <giesen> but it still keeps warning me
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:48] <giesen> and I still dont have notifications working
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:52] <edahl_> on a device you can go to its PerfConf tab and hit copy local to implement a template on that device
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:54] <giesen> cant figure out why I'm not getting emais
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:18] <giesen> edahl_: I did that, and removed all the data sources, thresholds, and graphs for /dev
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:28] <giesen> and it's still generating events
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:31] <giesen> about /dev being full
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:39] <edahl_> hum
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:58] <edahl_> you can also hit the monitored flag for a filesystem
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:02] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:04] <giesen> I set it to false
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:22] <giesen> and that wouldnt be so bad
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:23] <edahl_> zenperfsnmp has a config cycle of 20 mins by default
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:32] <giesen> except it's generating events and not emailing me!
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:35] <giesen> haha
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:42] <edahl_> it can take that long to flush out of the system
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:49] <giesen> yeah I made the changes last night
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:56] <edahl_> or you can restart zenperfsnmp
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:19] <giesen> okay, I tried that, we'll see how it goes
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:27] <giesen> can you help me with notifications
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:33] <giesen> I set severity >= 1
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:38] <giesen> 0 delay
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:41] <giesen> action email
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:43] <giesen> enabled true
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:46] <giesen> on the admin user
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:49] <giesen> and still nothing
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:12] * edahl_ set severity to something like >= 4
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:23] <giesen> well I'm trying to eliminate variables
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:26] <edahl_> that way you won't get paged by the filesystem thing
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:29] <edahl_> evetn
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:29] <giesen> so if severity is at 1
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:36] <edahl_> 1 is low
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:38] <giesen> I know there's something being generated
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:40] <giesen> yes I know
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:42] <edahl_> 5 is high
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:43] <giesen> my problem is
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:43] <rputzler> I modified the device farther down the class path, when I look back at the top level device it looks the same. I can't make a local copy of a template for every device there are too many devices.
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:47] <giesen> Im not getting ANY notifications
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:53] <giesen> I'd be happier if that /dev thing was bugging me
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:57] <giesen> and I was getting emails about it
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:06] <giesen> than it just generating events and not getting any emails
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:33] <giesen> hmm
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:39] <giesen> it seems to be working now
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:48] <giesen> may restarting zenperfsnmp unbroke something
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:51] <giesen> *maybe
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:17] <giesen> edahl_: is there any way to change the email address zenoss sends from?
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:29] <giesen> it keeps using zenoss@machine.domain.dom
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:34] <giesen> instead of zenoss@domain.dom
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:46] <giesen> even though I've set send from on my postfix
[31-Jul-2006 16:24:27] <rputzler> I think I see what I'm doing wrong. Just chalk up my questions to stupid users syndrome.
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:24] <giesen> edahl_: is the mibs database actually used for anything?
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:31] <giesen> I ended up making a UPS template
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:37] <giesen> but had to fill in all the mibs manually
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:16] <edahl_> the data sources with oids you mean?
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:26] <edahl> that's a drag
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:31] <edahl> I know
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:48] <giesen> it'd be ideal if you could browse the mib database
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <giesen> and check the relevant oids
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:59] <giesen> and copy them to your template
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:06] <edahl> new version has mib parsing
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:16] <edahl> but only uses it for trap processing
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:24] <edahl> perf stuff will follow
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:41] <giesen> nice
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:45] <giesen> I'm loving zenoss so much
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:51] <giesen> it's such a rich nms
[31-Jul-2006 16:30:10] <giesen> I tried opennms but it was more of a network device/ping nms
[31-Jul-2006 16:30:17] <giesen> I like the drill down detail on zenoss
[31-Jul-2006 16:31:08] <rputzler> I'm replacing opennms with zenoss right now. zenoss is far easier to manage and understand for my support staff.
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:11] <giesen> only disadvantage to opennms is it's a huge pig on resources
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:14] <giesen> but I can live with that
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:22] <giesen> hardware is cheap
[31-Jul-2006 16:33:33] <rputzler> Any ideas on how many devices can be monitored? I currently monitor 500 devices/interfaces with opennms and it barely breaks a sweat.
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:02] <giesen> no idea
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:05] <giesen> I have about 50 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:10] <giesen> and it's using about a gig and a half of ram
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:20] <giesen> but its baseload is pretty high
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:34] <giesen> I dont know how much additional ram it'll use as you add devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:44] <edahl> our biggest site has 1500 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:48] <edahl> right now
[31-Jul-2006 16:35:24] <rputzler> What kind of hardware it zenoss running on for the 1500 device site?
[31-Jul-2006 16:36:02] <creiht> giesen: Which process is using that much memory? That seems a bit high
[31-Jul-2006 16:36:07] <edahl> many boxes
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:09] <edahl> gig and half of ram is way more than it should be
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:47] <creiht> My Python process is using 20MB according to top
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:56] <creiht> And I'm monitoring close to 50 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:38:55] <rputzler> With many boxes do you have many copies of zenoss running independently managing different networks? Is there a central console concept to the gui?
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:06] <edahl> most boxes run perf collection
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:16] <edahl> zope is central box with console
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:29] <edahl> and a few other parts like ping
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:39] <rputzler> Sweet. I was hoping for that kind of answer.
[31-Jul-2006 16:41:25] <rputzler> This product rocks. I wish I new python, ever need any ruby development help?
[31-Jul-2006 16:41:59] <edahl> not yet
[31-Jul-2006 16:42:00] <edahl>
[31-Jul-2006 16:43:09] <rputzler> Yeah I new that was coming.
[31-Jul-2006 16:44:08] <creiht> rputzler: Just learn Python... you will be glad you did
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:16] <giesen> edahl: when do you expect we'll be able to manually add tcp services to monitor?
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:48] <edahl> well we can collect via portscan, ssh and snmp
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:56] <edahl> isn't that enough
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:32] <edahl> the hard part about manual entry is that we have to handle it mixed with auto-discovery
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:34] <creiht> edahl: Did I hear you guys say last week that you were going to make another release this week?
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:41] <edahl> tomorrow
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:45] <creiht> cool
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:51] <edahl> 0.22 is pretty much done in trunk
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:57] <creiht> I'll hold off on updating till then
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:00] <edahl> ecn is running pychecker against it
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:06] <creiht> cool
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:08] <giesen> python is eating up the majority of my memory
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:40] <giesen> most of python processes are 40MB or more
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:04] <giesen> Mem: 2074352k total, 1295152k used, 779200k free, 329900k buffers
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:13] <creiht> Wooho... Graphical alert creation
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:20] <giesen> on a 640 MB box
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:21] <creiht> giesen: if you do
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:26] <giesen> the thing was using a gig of swap
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:28] <creiht> ps -aux | grep Python
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:40] <creiht> There should be a column that has the memory usafe
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:43] <creiht> err usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:46] <creiht> in %
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:51] <creiht> What does it show?
[31-Jul-2006 16:52:32] <giesen> zenmodeler is using about 5%
[31-Jul-2006 16:52:41] <giesen> zenperfsnmp about 10%
[31-Jul-2006 16:53:35] <giesen> zenoss 29291 10.6 1.1 85960 23372 ? Sl 16:12 4:15 /data/zenoss/bin/python /data/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:13] <creiht> 10.6 is cpu usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:16] <creiht> 1.1 is memory usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:54] <creiht> I would do just a plain
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:56] <creiht> ps -aux
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:20] <creiht> and look at what is using the most memory
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:38] <giesen> erm yeah
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:39] <giesen> sorry
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:43] <giesen> I got the columns mixed up
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:57] <giesen> /usr/bin/python2.4 /data/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:03] <giesen> looks like that's the winnar at 4.8%
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:25] <creiht> What else do you have running on that system
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:31] <giesen> most of the othe proceses are at like 1%
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:31] <creiht> That doesn't seem like a whole lot
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:37] <giesen> nothing
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:41] <giesen> just postfix and zenoss
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:00] <giesen> about 300 MB of mem is being used up by buffers
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:21] <giesen> lemme reboot the system
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:25] <giesen> and I'll give you baseload
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[31-Jul-2006 17:06:31] <giesen> using about 128 MB after a reboot
[31-Jul-2006 17:06:35] <giesen> before zenoss is started
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:13] <creiht> edahl: Now that default polling is going to 5 minutes, have you guys given any more thought to adding different polling schedules once the device is down (for example when a service has gone down, poll every 30 seconds for the next 5 minutes to see if it comes back up)
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:25] <giesen> edahl: snmp isnt discovering all the services on the box
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:52] <giesen> and I dont know if you can check for things like tftp
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:06] <edahl> snmp should get tftp
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:21] <edahl> creiht: we backed out of that change to default poll
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:32] <edahl> because of the rrd issue
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:39] <creiht> ahhh
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:40] <creiht> ok
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:44] <edahl> I need to update release notes
[31-Jul-2006 17:10:53] <giesen> edahl: edahl would it make a difference if it was running via xinetd?
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[31-Jul-2006 17:11:19] <edahl> hum yes that would most likely do it
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:24] <edahl> I'm not sure
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:33] <edahl> if you do netstat -an does it show up?
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:51] <giesen> no
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:02] <giesen> also
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:08] <edahl> hum that must be it
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:09] <giesen> Id like to be able to monitor the port on my kvm
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:14] <giesen> dell 2161ds
[31-Jul-2006 17:13:55] <giesen> ip kvm that is
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:22] <giesen> man I really got more than I bargained for
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:30] <giesen> getting about 2 emails/second right now
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:54] <edahl> change severity in your alert rule
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:02] <edahl> to >= 4 or = 5
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:12] <edahl> then you only get highest stuff
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:47] <zaf> the dell one is a rebranded avocent which comes up fine
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[31-Jul-2006 17:18:21] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:28] <giesen> Im not worried aobut the alerts
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:33] <giesen> I know exactly how to fix that
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:55] <giesen> zaf snmp does
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:01] <giesen> the actual port it uses doesnt
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:35] <giesen> all I've got is snmp listed in the IP Services
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:40] <giesen> same thing on my tftp box
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:47] <giesen> which is why I want the ability to manually add services
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:03] <giesen> and the ability to add nagios plugs would just be sexy beyond belief
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:26] <zaf> ah
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:45] <zaf> would be nice to customize the device pages with links to log into the devices too
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:46] <giesen> I mean sure, if snmp's up, and the thing is pingable, it's probably okay
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:59] <giesen> but it'd be nice to be able to go the extra mile
[31-Jul-2006 17:21:04] <giesen> and see that the port is actually open and working
[31-Jul-2006 17:21:18] <giesen> and I'd to be able to monitor whether SIP is running on my cluster
[31-Jul-2006 17:22:10] <ecn> there's a high probability that nagios plugins will be available in the next release (this week)
[31-Jul-2006 17:22:22] <ecn> 'cause I just finished coding it 8-)
[31-Jul-2006 17:23:49] <giesen> nice
[31-Jul-2006 17:24:19] <ecn> right now it only does alerts: _no_ performance gathering (RRD Graphs)
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[31-Jul-2006 18:12:02] <giesen> does zenoss do dependencies?
[31-Jul-2006 18:27:00] <gravitron> how do you change the polling interval for performance information? is this something that can be set at a host or path level?
[31-Jul-2006 18:34:52] <giesen> you can change it
[31-Jul-2006 18:34:56] <giesen> I think it's global though
[31-Jul-2006 18:35:05] <giesen> and if you change it, you have to throw out all your rrd data
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[31-Jul-2006 19:52:26] <gravitron> any developers around?
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[03-Jul-2006 02:12:04] <oubiwann> yeah, that was it. No logging for over half of last month and the last few days due to incorrect permissions.
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[03-Jul-2006 02:55:07] <praktikant> hello everybody :-) i still have a problem with the "Zenoss VMWare Virtual Appliance"... when I start with '$ZENHOME/bin/zendisc run --net=192.168.1.0' it runs into a keyerror, saying something about '192.168.0.0' :-( wwho is able to help?
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[03-Jul-2006 04:35:43] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 08:21:47] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 09:31:23] <aurel> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:35] <ecn> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:49] <aurel> my old name was root_ ^^
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:54] <aurel> tell me ecn
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:02] <aurel> all seems to be ok now
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:08] <aurel> how can i monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:09] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:21] <aurel> i go
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:27] <aurel> to the device i want to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:32] <aurel> click on perf
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:42] <aurel> as one of your team told me yesterday
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:51] <aurel> i wait for 10min
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:00] <aurel> but nothing appears on my screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:10] <ecn> is zenperfsnmp running?
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:23] <ecn> run:
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:27] <ecn> zenoss status
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:43] <aurel> k
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:47] <aurel> now it is running
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:20] <aurel> so now i have to go in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:26] <aurel> and wait for 10 minutes ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:51] <ecn> no, you should see a graph in there now
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:58] <ecn> no data, but you should have a graph
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[03-Jul-2006 09:40:08] <aurel> i am in /devices/discovered/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:16] <aurel> in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:21] <aurel> but blank screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:23] <aurel> :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:26] <aurel> no graph
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:38] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:49] <ecn> move dsi13 to some other category
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:54] <ecn> what kind of a device is it?
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:02] <aurel> my computer
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:04] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:05] <aurel> celeron
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:10] <aurel> windows xp
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:34] <ecn> move it to /server/windows
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:17] <ecn> You can move it using the "Manage" tab
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:29] <aurel> i made it
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:58] <aurel> sdf
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:02] <aurel> i put it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:04] <aurel> in
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:42] <ecn> now re-run collection on it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:47] <aurel> a /devices/server/windows/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:00] <ecn> Same manage tab, "Collect Configuration"
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:12] <ecn> when that completes restart zenperfsnmp:
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:21] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 09:45:47] <aurel> i got the informations
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:01] <aurel> when i clicked on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:09] <aurel> i restarted zenmperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:15] <aurel> but still nothing
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:19] <aurel> in perf :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:00] <aurel> why ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:09] <ecn> good question
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:16] <ecn> I'm trying to think of reasons why
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:28] <aurel> in collection log
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:32] <aurel> i have all the things
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:36] <aurel> good
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:59] <ecn> are there any errors in zenperfsnmp.log?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:31] <aurel> where is this file located ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:40] <ecn> $ZENHOME/log
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:41] <aurel> logsave ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:55] <aurel> i do have warning
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:00] <aurel> when i launched
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:11] <aurel> zensmpcollect
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:19] <ecn> I'm thinking
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:47] <ecn> so you don't see any warnings/errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:41] <aurel> i have no log directory
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:46] <aurel> at zenhome
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:48] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:09] <edahl> aurel:
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:15] <edahl> are you running on the vmware image?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:20] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:22] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:43] <edahl> what does echo $ZENHOME give you?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:50] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:52] <aurel> bin
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:59] <aurel> (when i do ls)
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:03] <aurel> ifconfig
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:05] <aurel> mbox
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:07] <aurel> sbin
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:10] <aurel> zenossinst
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:19] <edahl> what is the output of \
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:23] <edahl> echo $ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:46] <edahl> are you user zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <aurel> i have nothing written
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:53] <edahl> are you root?
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:12] <edahl> you need to be user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:21] <aurel> stai was user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:24] <aurel> i was
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:37] <edahl> i'm stumpped
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:51] <edahl> try running
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:53] <edahl> cdz
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:13] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:20] <edahl> cdz should take you to ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <edahl> there will be a log dir there
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:49] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:51] <aurel> edahl
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:54] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:03:28] <aurel> file seems to be blank :/
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:34] <aurel> oh no
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:39] <aurel> i have many many errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:12] <aurel> 1000 ligns for 3 %
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:39] <ecn> which file?
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:40] <aurel> zenperfsnmp.log
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:45] <aurel> but it is becayse
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:59] <aurel> it took me some time to get zenoss work correctly
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:08] <ecn> ok, move the file to a new name and restart zenperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:16] <ecn> and that will give you a fresh set of errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:12] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:16] <aurel> 2 big warnings
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:26] <aurel> but it is not on my computer
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:35] <aurel> it is for this peripherial
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:36] <aurel> HP ETHERNET MULTI-ENVIRONMENT,ROM F.08.08,JETDIRECT EX,JD40,EEPROM F.08.20
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:48] <aurel> well the ip correspond to it
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:18] <aurel> but the snmp status is down
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:24] <aurel> so i think it is normal
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:27] <aurel> ^^
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:44] <ecn> I do not know why you would not get graphs
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:06] <aurel> i put it on /Devices /server /windows
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:11] <aurel> is it correct ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:13] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:35] <ecn> have you turned snmp on in windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:50] <aurel> yep it is green nox
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:51] <aurel> now
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:04] <aurel> ping up snmp up
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:18] <ecn> then I do not know
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:29] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:41] <aurel> i only have to click on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:48] <aurel> and after zensnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:58] <aurel> and i should be able to see the graph ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:12] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:17] <ecn> it will not have performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:39] <ecn> but graphs should show up
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:21] <aurel> what is the difference between zenperfsnmp start and zenperfsnmp start
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:28] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:33] <aurel> and zenperfsnmp run ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:57] <ecn> "start" -> runs in the background forever
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:06] <ecn> "run" -> run once in the foreground
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:58] <aurel> is it possible to run or start it only for my device
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:59] <aurel> .
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:00] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:22] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device "your device name"
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:36] <ecn> zenperfsnmp help # <- shows all options
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:18] <aurel> arf
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:20] <aurel> i get
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:25] <aurel> no devices found
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:30] <aurel> keeping existing list
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:40] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:53] <aurel> but maybe i shouild tell him the path to go
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:56] <aurel> to dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:57] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:02] <ecn> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:15] <ecn> is dsi13 the device name in Zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <aurel> SNMP sysName DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:42] <aurel> Ping Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:46] <aurel> SNMP Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:07] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:46] <aurel> it worked
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <ecn> did it say something about creating files?
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <aurel> collected 1 on 1 device
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:27] <aurel> i have new mail
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:57] <aurel> zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 device in 0.13
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:26] <aurel> but still nothing in perf
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:33] <aurel> is perf really useful ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yes, yes it is
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:01] <aurel> i can t see it
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:14] <ecn> what do you see in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:14] <aurel> 40 devices
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:19] <aurel> including
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:20] <ecn> great!
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:21] <aurel> DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:38] <ecn> try looking at the interfaces:
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:56] <ecn> DSI13 -> OS tab -> click on an interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:28] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:31] <aurel> see a graph
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:34] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:54] <ecn> windows doesn't publish performance data in their SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:02] <ecn> no CPU stats
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:06] <aurel> i have installed
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:12] <aurel> snmp-informant
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:16] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:21] <ecn> then you should see that
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:29] <ecn> now i'm stumped 8-)
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:38] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:57] <ecn> perhaps stop/start snmp on windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:04] <ecn> or reboot ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:36] <aurel> you know
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:45] <aurel> it is not really important for me to see the graph
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:59] <aurel> i want the informations
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:03] <aurel> cpu usage
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:04] <aurel> memory
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:05] <aurel> disk
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:09] <aurel> etc..
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:15] <aurel> no pb
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:21] <aurel> if i get it on the interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:24] <aurel>
[03-Jul-2006 10:39:59] <aurel> ecn, if you could tell me how to do that
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:11] <aurel> it would be really great
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:22] <ecn> you would like to get the snmp numbers?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <aurel> i don t really understand
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <ecn> the raw snmp data?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:35] <aurel> snmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:46] <aurel> i know it is a service
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:48] <ecn> Simple Network Monitoring Protocol
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <aurel> which always monitoring
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:01] <aurel> using a comunity
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:10] <aurel> rights
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:15] <aurel> but after
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:24] <aurel> all i want to do is to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:30] <aurel> please help
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:34] <aurel> i !!m
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:18] <ecn> right now Zenoss does performance monitoring using SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:34] <ecn> if SNMP is not working for the performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <ecn> Zenoss cannot help you
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:17] <ecn> Zenoss does have some tools to monitor windows using WMI
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:35] <ecn> but that is not part of the VMWare image
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <ecn> since it requires a windows box
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:36] <aurel> in my cas
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:37] <aurel> e
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:44] <aurel> you think that performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:47] <aurel> is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:48] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:49:51] <ecn> try this to test:
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:10] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:58] <aurel> i had no error while doing it
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:07] <ecn> did it print out a number?
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:10] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:16] <ecn> that's the problem
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:23] <ecn> my results:
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:29] <ecn> UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssCpuRawUser.0 = Counter32: 158856
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:52] <ecn> snmp-informant is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:20] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <aurel> my next mission is to make it work then
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:18] <aurel> i have installed the std
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:21] <aurel> is it good N
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:58] <ecn> yes
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[04-Jul-2006 08:08:40] <MAIGAUR> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:16:10] <ecn> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:18:59] <MAIGAUR> ecn
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:08] <MAIGAUR> my old name was aurel yesterday
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:10] <MAIGAUR> so
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:12] <MAIGAUR> i have run
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:18] <MAIGAUR> the following commands
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:21] <MAIGAUR> on my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:25] <MAIGAUR> and they workds
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:28] <MAIGAUR> workes
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:30] <MAIGAUR> worked
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:39] <MAIGAUR> but i still can t do perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:53] <MAIGAUR> snmpgetnext -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:01] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:05] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.3.1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:11] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:17] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .system.sysUpTime.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:22] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -OX -c public -v 1 DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.2
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:34] <MAIGAUR> but this one doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:41] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:43] <MAIGAUR>
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:15] <ecn> right... that's the one that should be covered by snmp-informant
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:58] <ecn> well, the syntax I gave yesterday...
[04-Jul-2006 08:25:03] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:16] <MAIGAUR> damn
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:26] <MAIGAUR> but this is working for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:34] <MAIGAUR> so it is not snmp perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:47] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:50] <ecn> question:
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:04] <ecn> you don't see perf graphs for suse AND windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> that is, you don't have perf graphs for anything
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:16] <MAIGAUR> works for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:52] <ecn> ok, good
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:04] <ecn> then it is simply snmp-informant not working
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:20] <ecn> which is strange because nobody else has had a problem with it
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:26] <MAIGAUR> linux includes an equivalent to snmp-informant ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:28] <ecn> including me, and I don't know anything about windows 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:32] <MAIGAUR> lool
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:41] <ecn> yes, linux publishes those values
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <MAIGAUR> k
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:52] <ecn> windows does not, without an extension
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:11] <ecn> this is one of a million reasons why I don't know anything about windows
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:21] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:48] <MAIGAUR> i don t understand why
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:54] <MAIGAUR> performant doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:00] <ecn> me, either
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:12] <ecn> how old is your windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:37] <MAIGAUR> you think i should reinstall ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:55] <ecn> this is not my area of expertise
[04-Jul-2006 08:34:27] <ecn> it should work, and has worked for everyone else I know who has used it, so something strange is going on
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <MAIGAUR> i am happy for them
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <MAIGAUR> ^^
[04-Jul-2006 08:38:08] <MAIGAUR> snmp is working dmn
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:23] <ecn> maigaur... today is a US holiday... i'm going to go out and enjoy the sweltering heat 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:34] <MAIGAUR> ok
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:36] <MAIGAUR> no pb
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:51] <MAIGAUR> have a nice day
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[05-Jul-2006 09:55:22] <maigaur> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:32] <ecn> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:55] <maigaur> did you have a nice day yesterday ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:57] <maigaur>
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:12] <ecn> yes, very nice... thunderstorms blew through and cooled things down
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:19] <ecn> just in time for fireworks
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:47] <maigaur> oki
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:51] <maigaur> i made tests
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:56] <maigaur> for snmp-informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> on 3 different windows
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> xp
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:11] <maigaur> machines
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:22] <maigaur> snmp is always up
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <maigaur> but commands to check if informant is working never work
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:52] <maigaur>
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:00] <maigaur> when i install informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:08] <maigaur> are there anything else i have to do
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:17] <maigaur> after having read the readme file ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <ecn> try this test:
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:56] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[05-Jul-2006 10:01:35] <ecn> where hostname is your Windows box name
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[05-Jul-2006 11:08:24] <stokvis> Anyone there?
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[05-Jul-2006 11:22:04] <ecn> test test test
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[05-Jul-2006 12:31:06] <stokvis> +v
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[05-Jul-2006 14:07:16] <creiht> edahl: Is there a way to send alerts for Infrastructure issues?
[05-Jul-2006 14:08:50] <edahl> not today
[05-Jul-2006 14:09:11] <edahl> let me find the bug number I think we will get this for 0.21 which is Friday
[05-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <edahl> #159
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[05-Jul-2006 15:06:56] <zaf> is there a way to add devices from the command line, or some other batch means
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[05-Jul-2006 15:15:30] <edahl> there once was.... let me look
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:05] <edahl> the batch loading stuff looks pretty old and crunchy
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:23] <edahl> you can use Device.py's manage_createDevice
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:30] <edahl> to load devices from zendmd
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:57] <edahl> let me put a bug in for this
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:11] <edahl> bug #168
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:27] <edahl> we are planning release on Friday
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:34] <zaf> cool
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:44] <edahl> so it won't be until next release most likely
[05-Jul-2006 15:24:32] <zaf> i've got a bunch of the same model managed switch on different networks, so it's like 10.20.n.5, so it would be nice to enter the info for it once and have it fill every switch
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:26] <edahl> got it we should auto discover the model etc are they cisco?
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:49] <zaf> dell powerconnect
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:59] <edahl> hum interesting
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:34] <zaf> for auto discovering, is there a place to put in community strings to try
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:48] <edahl> yep
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:59] <edahl> zSnmpCommunities
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:11] <edahl> in /Devices
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:37] <zaf> ah, thanks
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[05-Jul-2006 18:40:57] <creiht> oubiwann: Are you around?
[05-Jul-2006 18:43:17] <oubiwann> yup
[05-Jul-2006 18:45:59] <creiht> oubiwann: Have you started work on the HTTP polling improvements yet?
[05-Jul-2006 18:46:56] <oubiwann> yeah, I've started on it. But that translates to: "I've started digging into the ZenStatus code and am exploring the best near-term solution for adding this feature"
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:05] <creiht> hehe
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:30] <b_52Free> what does zenoos have more than tools like nagions
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:31] <b_52Free> ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:34] <b_52Free> nagios
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:54] <b_52Free> zenoss sorry....
[05-Jul-2006 18:48:48] <creiht> oubiwann: Is it planned to record performance of the service polling (response time) this time aroung or is that later?
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:08] <creiht> b_52Free: I haven't really used nagios so I'm not sure
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:11] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm also going to be using divmod's Combinator tool for branch management, so what you'll be looking for won't be developed at "regular speed"
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:24] <oubiwann> since it's my first time using Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:31] <creiht> hmmm
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <creiht> What is Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <b_52Free> creiht, hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:41] <oubiwann> creiht: it's in the tracker item for this round
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:17] <oubiwann> b_52Free: the last time I used Nagios was in disgust... in 2001 I think
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:32] <oubiwann> b_52Free: that's why I started the pymon project
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:54] <creiht> hmmm Combinator looks interesting
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:59] <creiht> I need to look at that closer
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:11] <oubiwann> b_52Free: I had used it and liked it both as NetSaint and Nagios... but
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:27] <creiht> We are trying to figure out a better way to do branching with SVN here
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:32] <oubiwann> when I had to start digging and writing my own stuff, I was faced with an architecture that I did not like
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:57] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm going to be writing up procedures for using Combinator with Zenoss
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:06] <creiht> cool
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:08] <oubiwann> probably sometime in the next month or so
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:40] <b_52Free> hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:47] <oubiwann> yeah, so that will be really useful -- a contextual example that you could use as inspiration for your own stuff
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:32] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but nagios / zenoss offer the same feature ; just the way they that they are doing the work is not the same ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:52] <oubiwann> b_52Free: Zenoss and I share a very similar philosophy WRT development and architecture, and we've got some exciting things planned
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:15] <b_52Free> WRT = ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:24] <korozion> I came from a large Nagios setup, and from what I've seen, Zenoss is MUCH easier to set up initially, and MUCH easier to keep things going and up to date.
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:25] <oubiwann> b_52Free: "With Regard To"
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:35] <oubiwann> korozion: exactly
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:07] <creiht> b_52Free: Nagios also does not scale
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:09] <oubiwann> korozion: that was the biggest problem we had with Nagios: setup/configuration in a timely, consistent manner and maintenance of the software
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:34] <korozion> I just stumbled on zenoss the other day from an article in LinuxWorld. We run zope and django and lots of python. So Zenoss just fit in perfectly
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:43] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but the most atracive thing in zenoss ; it's PYTHON AND ZOPE
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:46] <oubiwann> korozion: sweet :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:51] <korozion> heh, very
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:57] <korozion> I was SO happy when I found it
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:41] <oubiwann> b_52Free: for me, the most attractive part of Zenoss is Twisted and Python ;-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:44] <korozion> I'm having dinner with Adrian Holovaty next month, I'll bring it up
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:56] <oubiwann> korozion: nice!
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:05] <korozion> yep, can't wait to meet him
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:18] <b_52Free> oubiwann, i didn't touch Twisted yet :^
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:39] <oubiwann> b_52Free: yeah, I live and breathe twisted these days :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:47] <oubiwann> b_52Free: it's my sanity
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:52] <b_52Free>
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:07] <korozion> I registered on the zenoss site, and made a note that I'd help with the Debian install side of things, looking forward to hearing back
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:30] <korozion> I'd like to jump ahead an put zenoss into production on one of my Debian servers soon
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:56] <creiht> korozion: I installed on Ubuntu with no problems
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:01] <korozion> nice
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:04] <creiht> Someone was working on making an Ubuntu package
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:11] <creiht> I'm not sure what happened to that
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:15] <oubiwann> creiht: yeah, I think that was Spec
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:16] <korozion> I'm sure it's easy, but I read something about needing certification of the install or something
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:20] <oubiwann> haven't heard from him in a while
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:27] <korozion> hell, I'll document everything I do, and build a deb if need be
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:43] <oubiwann> korozion: that'd be great
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:16] <korozion> great, I'll keep you updated. bbiab
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:24] <oubiwann> I was hoping Spec would continue, because he was talking about breaking out Zenoss into individual packages, based on dependency
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:32] <creiht> Yeah
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:36] <oubiwann> and I think that's a great direction to move in
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[06-Jul-2006 03:17:48] <stokvis> is anyone there?
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[06-Jul-2006 04:21:52] <koroded> heya, it'
[06-Jul-2006 04:22:05] <koroded> it's korozion. No need to panic
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[06-Jul-2006 14:08:27] <deezthugs> i am evaluating zenoss for deployment at work and was wondering if any unit testing is being done during development? I notice test directories but they seem to contain some informal functional tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:09:55] <ecn> testing is lagging at this time
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <ecn> we know it needs to be fixed
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:16] <ecn> the software is used every day in an operational way
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:23] <deezthugs> ok. any plans to use a harness and UnitTest or nose or py.test?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:43] <ecn> I don't know what harness will be used
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:45] <deezthugs> or mock objects, etc?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:50] <deezthugs> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:51] <deezthugs> cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:58] <ecn> I think that's less important than just sitting down and pounding out tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:07] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:26] <deezthugs> py.test and nose do not require any special classes to bewritten, just functions
[06-Jul-2006 14:24:33] <creiht> Does anyone have any experience pulling SNMP information from DELL DRAC cards?
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:18] <ecn> ya, I think Erik does
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:28] <ecn> which is why there's a /server/linux/dell category
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:32] <creiht> Ahhh cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:36] <creiht> I need to poke him
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:39] <ecn> but that's a guess
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:50] <ecn> he's at a customer site today
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:57] <creiht> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:26:27] <ecn> if you have the Mib and can snmp walk it, you can probably do a template yourself
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:03] <creiht> Cool... I wanted to see if anyone has any experience with it
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:13] <creiht> I need to get a DRAC installed on our box first
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[06-Jul-2006 16:28:54] <deezthugs> i finally got zenoss running on os x, but I cannot actually log in to zenoss or view the /zport/dmd screen... i think some configuration must have failed after this:
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Restoring backup
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Starting Zope Object Database
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . . Unlinking stale socket /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.zdsock; sleep 1
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . daemon process started, pid=5792
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> Migrating data
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:58] <deezthugs> Data migration failed
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:15] <deezthugs> is there a way to start that install over from this point?
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:20] <ecn> yep
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:24] <ecn> delete $ZENHOME
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:54] <deezthugs> oh so i have to start over from scratch?
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:00] <ecn> make sure zope and friends are not running
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:15] <ecn> kill anything that looks like python and "z"-something
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:25] <ecn> no, it's all built in the build directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:29] <ecn> just not installed
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:33] <ecn> it will go much quicker
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:53] <deezthugs> nice
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:55] <deezthugs> thx
[06-Jul-2006 16:31:39] <ecn> that's not to say it isn't time to get some coffee
[06-Jul-2006 16:33:16] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:00] <deezthugs> btw: zenoss seems to build and run everything ok if you build python from source on an intel mac
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:32] <deezthugs> MacPython seems to be no good with zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:12] <Nitros> you probably got further than i did with my zenoss on ubuntu
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:43] <deezthugs> it all installed but died during data migration. i dont know why i said yes
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:35] <Nitros> does anyone know of a hold-your-hand faq for ubuntu?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <Nitros> [on installing zenoss]?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <amodlin> what kind of FAQ
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:56] <amodlin> I can help you out on that, I did that a few weeks ago
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:11] <Nitros> sweet. i'm starting off with a blank dapper server box
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:20] <amodlin> ok, one sec
[06-Jul-2006 16:41:34] <amodlin> first things to check are do you have current versions of python/mysql/gcc and python-devel, mysql-server
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:03] <amodlin> if not, you need to get updated versions from the repository
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:13] <Nitros> converted into ubuntu-speak, that would be build-essential, python-2.4, mysql5-blah-blah
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <amodlin> yes i believe so
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <Nitros> yeah, my repository is up2date
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:30] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:44] <amodlin> have you configured mysql yet?
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:02] <Nitros> yes, i already have a zenoss user and database, login and password waiting on it
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:14] <Nitros> user in mysql that is
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:30] <Nitros> i ran the install.sh script ...
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[06-Jul-2006 16:44:51] <amodlin> ah, and something exploded?
[06-Jul-2006 16:45:00] <Nitros> and it is trying to untar CMF-1.5.6 and its getting no such file or directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:46:16] <amodlin> Hm, I've never seen that problem and I'm not the install guy, if you want I can have them send you an email when they get a chance to look at your problem
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:48] <Nitros> that's cool, could you describe the steps you did to install it, maybe i missed something
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:57] <Nitros> packages - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:48:01] <Nitros> configure mysql - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:50:49] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:09] <amodlin> I'll definately let them know, can I get your email to send to them?
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:22] <Nitros> redhatnick@gmail.com
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:32] <ecn> you could CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:37] <ecn> that is:
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:44] <ecn> CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:05] <ecn> and the install.sh/GNUmakefile should find it in there
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:13] <ecn> make sure ZENHOME is set
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:56] <Nitros> i have ZENHOME set to /usr/local/zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:53:20] <ecn> the install script is pretty good about checking the env vars now
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:24] <Nitros> http://blueheron.livejournal.com/145996.html
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:28] <Nitros> do you think that is a good guide?
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:41] <adytum-bot> Title: blueheron: Zenoss (at blueheron.livejournal.com)
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:05] <Nitros> good bot. good bot.
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:16] * Nitros throws the bot a bone.
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[07-Jul-2006 03:16:50] <stokvis> anyone there?
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[07-Jul-2006 04:49:14] <stokvis> Anyone there? :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:01:08] <oubiwann> yup
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:30] <stokvis> great
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:49] <stokvis> I have been trying for a few days now to get this working :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:12:05] <stokvis> shows you how bad I am
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[07-Jul-2006 05:33:12] <oubiwann> stokvis: heh, no prob :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:36] <stokvis> I have a problem installing zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:42] <stokvis> can I discuss this here?
[07-Jul-2006 05:38:23] <maigaur_> yes you can
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:27] <stokvis> I get an error when I run install.sh
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:45] <stokvis> just after the command installing zope
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:33] <stokvis> I looked in the zenbuild.log
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:36] <stokvis> and found this
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:38] <stokvis> error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
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[07-Jul-2006 05:58:45] <maigaur_> i think you have to choose
[07-Jul-2006 05:58:48] <maigaur_> home
[07-Jul-2006 05:59:26] <stokvis> where would I set this option?
[07-Jul-2006 06:00:03] <stokvis> or do I haver to do it when running install.sh /home=
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[07-Jul-2006 06:24:05] <oubiwann> stokvis: what is the exact command you are using to install zenoss?
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:15] <oubiwann> stokvis: are you just typeing
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:19] <oubiwann> "install.sh"
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:25] <oubiwann> or something else, too?
[07-Jul-2006 06:31:28] <stokvis> no just ./install.sh
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[07-Jul-2006 07:57:09] <maigaur_> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:57:15] <ecn> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:39] <maigaur_> ecn, I still have the same problem
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:40] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:46] <maigaur_> do you know
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:51] <maigaur_> if there are other things
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> to do when snmp informant is installe
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> d
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <maigaur_> to configure it or whatever
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <ecn> no, I'm sorry I don't
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:31] <ecn> Like I said, I have installed it exactly once and it worked right away
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:49] <maigaur_> which version are you using ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:05] <maigaur_> i have windows sp service pack 2
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:17] <maigaur_> maybe i need another version of snmp-informant
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:58] <ecn> I am also running windows xp sp2
[07-Jul-2006 08:02:59] <ecn> did you try this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:01] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:40] <maigaur_> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 = Gauge32: 0
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:45] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:48] <ecn> that's good
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:07] <maigaur_> but that s not informant you told me, right ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:18] <ecn> is your windows box organized under /servers/windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:19] <ecn> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:30] <maigaur_> i have a suse box in fact
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:32] <maigaur_> :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:34] <ecn> actually, I think that is what informant publishes
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:41] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:53] <maigaur_> but you know, i have a suse bo
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:54] <maigaur_> w
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:55] <maigaur_> x
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <ecn> you have 2 machines, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:16] <ecn> one that is windows: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:17] <maigaur_> yep
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <maigaur_> one on linux
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <ecn> one that is suse: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:25] <maigaur_> with zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:30] <maigaur_> the other with windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:38] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:44] <maigaur_> and snmp-informant (normally) installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:49] <ecn> is the windows server organized under /servers/windows?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:03] <ecn> you can change it with the manage tab when you view the device
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:15] <maigaur_> the server is the computer with snmp-informant installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:16] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:43] <maigaur_> if yes, he is in it
[07-Jul-2006 08:08:13] <ecn> the suse box is organized under /servers/linux, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:12] <maigaur_> windows server in /Devices /servers /windows /DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:24] <ecn> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:46] <maigaur_> suse on /Devices /servers /linux /zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:23] <maigaur_> i have to do collect configuration
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:37] <maigaur_> and after zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:43] <maigaur_> restart ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:07] <ecn> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:20] <ecn> just restart zenperfsnmp to make sure it's reading the current setup
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:40] <ecn> and look for errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:04] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:26] <ecn> tail -f $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log &
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:41] <ecn> any errors?
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:39 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x01\xbd\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8dr0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xea=h0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc40\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> \x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x15\x9c0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x970\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:44 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x02`\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8f\xac0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xeaC\xca0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc50\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:39] <maigaur_> x01\x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x16r0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x980\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:49] <maigaur_> but it is not for my ip
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:54] <maigaur_> for another computer
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:59] <maigaur_> for mine no erri
[07-Jul-2006 08:26:01] <maigaur_> error
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[07-Jul-2006 08:27:51] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> when you look at DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:18] <maigaur_> i restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:26] <maigaur_> zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:37] <ecn> you see graphs for your interfaces, but not for performance, still?
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:02] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:04] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device DSI2
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:06] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417A607.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F331.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:10] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417396A.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:12] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064189020.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:15] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 34 of 47 devices in 24.67
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:17] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806419F614.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:19] <maigaur_> new errors
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <maigaur_> but still not for mine :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:25] <ecn> right
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:45] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <ecn> those are boxes not running snmp, or for which you do not have a community string, or are behind firewalls
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:01] <maigaur_> for interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:05] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:07] <maigaur_> but
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:10] <maigaur_> it is strange
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:14] <maigaur_> it is a vertical bar
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:17] <maigaur_> green
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:21] <ecn> 8-)
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:30] <ecn> way over on the right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <maigaur_> correct
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:56] <ecn> good!
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:09] <ecn> that's the current value
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:32] <ecn> it will fill right to left
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:36] <ecn> as time goes on
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:56] <maigaur_> but thas has nothing to do with snmp informant
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:19] <ecn> you are looking at the interface graphs or the performance graph?
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:28] <maigaur_> interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:31] <maigaur_> is working
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:37] <maigaur_> perf not
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:38] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:43] <ecn> no graphs under perf?
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:24] <ecn> try running this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:30] <maigaur_> don t know why snmp informant doesn t work for me
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:35] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13 -v 10
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Updated snmpCycleInterval config to 60
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Gathering performance data for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Configured 1 devices
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:received config for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:getting device ping issues
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Unresponsive devices: []
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:17] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 devices in 0.11
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:19] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Sent 7 SNMP OID requests
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:44] <ecn> that's perfect
[07-Jul-2006 08:35:05] <maigaur_> perf ect ^^
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:15] <ecn> I think it should have asked for more OIDs than it did
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:30] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:47] <ecn> a scan of my linux box asks for 34 OIDs
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:01] <ecn> but I presently have 5 or 6 network interfaces
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:24] <maigaur_> lol
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:27] <ecn> I don't have a windows box to mess with right now, but I'll be booting over to The Dark Side in a little while
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:40] <maigaur_> loooooooolk
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <ecn> just don't tell anyone
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:52] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <maigaur_> no b
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:55] <maigaur_> pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:27] <maigaur_> on my suse box
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:35] <maigaur_> it also returned me 7 oid
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:45] <maigaur_> it is almost the same machine
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:48] <maigaur_> i think it is good
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:54] <maigaur_> but you know
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:15] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:26] <ecn> ya, that was wrong
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:31] <maigaur_> and snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory is not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:39] <ecn> snmp-informant publishes under a different OID
[07-Jul-2006 08:40:23] <maigaur_> okio
[07-Jul-2006 08:41:14] <ecn> if you look at the templates you can see the OID values being used for each category
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[07-Jul-2006 08:44:16] <maigaur_> where are the templates please ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:10] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:36] <ecn> PerfConf tab
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:54] <maigaur_> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:55] <maigaur_> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:09] <maigaur_> sysUpTime
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:55] <maigaur_> type gauge
[07-Jul-2006 08:50:09] <maigaur_> damn why is it not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:07] <ecn> will you be online much longer?
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:14] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <ecn> I have some customer issues to look into
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <maigaur_> for 2 hours
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:24] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:26] <maigaur_> no pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:30] <ecn> then I will boot to windows and will have more things to compare
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:37] <maigaur_>
[07-Jul-2006 08:54:08] <maigaur_> this is drving me crazy, i just can't sleep
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[07-Jul-2006 10:04:44] <maigaur_> ecn, tell me when you have rebooted
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[07-Jul-2006 11:14:02] <zaf> we still expecting a new version today?
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[07-Jul-2006 11:15:29] <ecn> yes, that's the plan
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[07-Jul-2006 11:27:35] <ecn> zaf is prolly gonna turn blue
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:05] * creiht laughs
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:09] <creiht> edahl!
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:43] <creiht> edahl: Do you have any experience monitoring Dell machines through a DRAC?
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:58] <edahl> we were just working on that at a client site yesterday
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:06] <creiht> cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:18] <edahl> new trap stuff processes traps from the DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:24] <creiht> Very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:41] <creiht> I need to set traps for RAID problems
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:34] <creiht> I'm really looking forward to the new version
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <zaf> you can get all that from the drac interface?
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <creiht> It should open up a lot of new possibilities for us
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:48] <edahl> traps and process monitoring are very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:53] <creiht> Theoretically yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:08] <zaf> ooh, i thought it was just for console type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:10] <zaf> nice
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:38] <edahl> we had some issues finding the mibs for the DRAC (its not in the current version of OpenManage)
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:40] <creiht> With the Dell Open Manage software you can have the DRAC send SNMP traps for all sorts of stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:15] <zaf> and it comes from the ip of the drac, and not the regular ethernet?
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:43] <creiht> zaf: I believe so... The DRAC has its own nic
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:08] <edahl> yes from the DRAC ip
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:20] <edahl> we have DRACS in as separate devices
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:41] <zaf> yeah, i've been trying to figure out where to put them, heh
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:55] <edahl> we made a new device class
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:08] <edahl> /Server/Manager
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:15] <edahl> or something like that
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:22] <edahl> maybe /Server/DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:40:02] * zaf resumes holding his breath
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:29] <mooey> howdy
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:41] <mooey> i have some questions about zenoss, and now seems like a suitable time to ask them ^_^
[07-Jul-2006 11:43:50] <mooey> we have a bunch of dell poweredge servers, which i understand i can monitor with zenoss. can zenoss obtain and generate bandwidth graphs for ports on a dell switch, and can it obtain and generate graphs for things like temperature of a poweredge?
[07-Jul-2006 11:45:22] <zaf> i've got it running on some dell powerconnect 3424s and 3448s. it pulls traffic from the interfaces. i think i need to do more tweaking on it though
[07-Jul-2006 11:46:54] <mooey> hm o_O what about temperatures and such forth, do i need to install an smnp server on the machines or does openmanage do that?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:16] <zaf> does it have a drac?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:29] <mooey> nah
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:39] <creiht> mooey: Are they running Windows or Linux?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:44] <mooey> a mixture :}
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:53] <edahl> does dell mib publish temp?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:54] <mooey> mostly windows tho
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:20] <mooey> i'm not sure. temperature was just an example, things like cpu / memory usage is whats most important
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:44] <mooey> im just trying to understand exactly what zenoss really is, and what information it can report from dell machines with openmanage
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:48] <edahl> install free agent from snmp-informant.com for windows cpu/memory
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:00] <edahl> on linux run net-snmp
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:24] <mooey> we have that already on the linux machines
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:27] <creiht> mooey: snmp-informant.com also has a motherboard monitor agent that can pull CPU temperature, but I have not used it
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:35] <edahl> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:36] <edahl> dell has lots of type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:15] <mooey> does openmanage expose them?
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:21] <mooey> excuse my ignorance
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:07] <edahl> yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:21] <mooey> excellent
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:28] <mooey> thank you all =) i will go have a play
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:47] <mooey> the vmware player demo thingy... thats sweet
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <mooey> really useful
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <edahl> take a look at that link
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:57] <edahl> cool
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[10-Jul-2006 06:12:09] <deflowjo> hello
[10-Jul-2006 06:14:25] <deflowjo> help:i've just installed zenoss 0.20.1 on vmware desktop, it doesn't discover devices
[10-Jul-2006 06:15:25] <deflowjo> failed to parse host unreachable packet; any idea?
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[10-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <maigaur_> ecn anhello
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[10-Jul-2006 08:38:53] <maigaur_> hell
[10-Jul-2006 08:38:55] <maigaur_> o
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[10-Jul-2006 08:41:24] <ecn> hello
[10-Jul-2006 08:41:38] <ecn> sorry about friday: we were very busy with the release
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:02] <maigaur_> no pb
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:38] <maigaur_> so
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:43] <maigaur_> the following commands
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:47] <maigaur_> work on my pc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:08] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:10] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:59] <maigaur_> when i do collect configuration i have
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:05] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:07] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:09] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:11] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:14] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:17] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:19] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:21] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:23] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:25] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:27] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:31] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:33] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:35] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:37] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:39] <maigaur_> :/
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:15] <maigaur_> those don't
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
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[10-Jul-2006 09:05:12] <maigaur_> ecn are you still there ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:00:02] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:08] <maigaur> are you back ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:10] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:16] <maigaur> to help me a little
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:34] <maigaur> if you don t have time no problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:19] <ecn> sorry... got some monday problems
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:28] <ecn> should never make a release on a friday 8-)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:04:32] <maigaur> lool
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <maigaur> so
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:50] <maigaur> on my windows box
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:52] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:55] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:57] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:59] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:03] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:04] <maigaur> this is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:07] <maigaur> but not this
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[10-Jul-2006 10:05:09] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:11] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:13] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:15] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:34] <maigaur> also
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .get
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> SNMPv2-MIB::snmpInGetResponses.0 = Counter32: 0
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrProcessorFrwID.768 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::zeroDotZero
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:46] <maigaur> i think this is my problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:52] <maigaur> localhost is the suse box
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:57] <maigaur> dsi13
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:00] <maigaur> windows server
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:05] <maigaur> you see it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:19] <maigaur> don"t know if it comes from snmp-informant
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:20] <maigaur> or npt
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:21] <ecn> try this:
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:41] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0
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[10-Jul-2006 10:10:22] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0 = INTEGER: 522228 KBytes
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:29] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:43] <ecn> that means your snmp-informat is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:49] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:16] <ecn> try to delete and add the device in zenoss
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:33] <ecn> (Manage tab to delete)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <creiht> ecn: How much do you know about the ping monitoring?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:26:01] <ecn> I did the last re-write
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:15] <creiht> I'm runing .20 and I got some alerts last night, that some devices were down
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:25] <creiht> When I look at the events, there is just one ping event
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:34] <ecn> count = 1?
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:37] <creiht> And I can ping the devices now fine from the server
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:38] <creiht> yes
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:44] <ecn> ya... known problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> I moved one of them to the history, and it is fine
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> ahhh
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:35] <creiht> Is there a known fix?
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:46] <ecn> it's in the latest
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:55] <ecn> let me find the patch for you
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:16] <creiht> oh cool...l I just noticed that .21 was released
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:19] <creiht> is the fix in there?
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:26] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:43] <ecn> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/1801
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:47] <creiht> ok I plan on looking at that today
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:48] <creiht> cool
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <creiht> I want to migrate to that as soon as possible anyway
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <adytum-bot> Title: [1801] - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:17] <ecn> stupid 'bot
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:37] <ecn> this release has process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:50] <ecn> so you can track cpu & memory for individual processes
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:56] <creiht> Yes... I'm very excited about this release
[10-Jul-2006 10:31:04] <ecn> tell all your friends
[10-Jul-2006 10:32:07] <creiht> hehe
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[10-Jul-2006 10:38:09] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:15] <maigaur> i have deleted
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:20] <maigaur> how can i add it
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:22] <maigaur> fastly
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:26] <ecn> Add Device
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:28] <ecn> on the left
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:32] <ecn> of the main page
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:42] <ecn> give it the IP addr of the machine as it's name
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:47] <ecn> it will discover it's real name
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:55] <maigaur> i made
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:00] <maigaur> collect configuration
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:12] <maigaur> and put it back to /devices/servers/windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:20] <maigaur> do i have to restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:22] <maigaur> zenperf
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:46] <ecn> no, but it doesn't hurt... but first, run "collect configuration" again now that you've moved it to /Servers/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:22] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:50] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:54] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:56] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:05] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:10] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:12] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:14] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:16] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:18] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:20] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:22] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:24] <maigaur> i have also
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:26] <maigaur> seen that for dell computers
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:28] <maigaur> there are special files
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:31] <maigaur> that can be interesting
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:52] <maigaur> do you think my collect configuration is good ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:58] <ecn> looks good
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:04] <ecn> now restart zenperfsnmp
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:18] <maigaur> zenperfsnmp restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:20] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:45:16] <maigaur> i made it
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:01] <ecn> check out perf
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:05] <ecn> see if the graphs are there
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:14] <maigaur> nothing
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:17] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:30] <maigaur> this doesn t work
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:37] <ecn> you see no graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:45] <maigaur> no graphs
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:46] <maigaur> :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:50] <ecn> or you see no labels for non-existent graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:56] <maigaur> i show you a screen capture
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:00] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:01] <maigaur> if you want
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:08] <maigaur> give me a mail adress
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:13] <ecn> ecn at swcomplete dot com
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <creiht> ecn: I'm also getting the following error in my zenperfsnmp.log:
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:13] <creiht> 2006-07-10 09:42:24 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: xmlrpclib.Fault, <Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: Products.ZCTextIndex.ParseTree.ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, '(' found">
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:17] <creiht> ]
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:34] <creiht> Do you have any idea what would be causing that?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:49:26] <ecn> check your etc/zenperfsnmp.conf file for good username/password
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:18] <maigaur> mail sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:33] <creiht> ecn: That's fine... I'm still getting snmp performance data
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:49] <creiht> ecn: The ping issue had me looking at the logs
[10-Jul-2006 10:51:01] <creiht> And I noticed the message after each run
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:03] <ecn> do you see it once every config cycle, or only at shutdown?
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> Right before I get this line:
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: collected 39 of 40 devices in 11.99
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:30] <creiht> Every cycle
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:17] <ecn> maigaur:
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:31] <ecn> ok... I noticed something very strange about the screen capture you sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:50] <ecn> your device is under "/Devices/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:57] <ecn> on my computer they are under:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:06] <ecn> "/Devices/Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <ecn> see the difference in capitalization?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:22] <maigaur> it is case sensitive ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:32] <ecn> that's the thing:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:43] <ecn> you should not have a "/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:59] <ecn> You should have the built-in "/Servers/Windows" only
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:22] <ecn> if I was you, I would drop your whole config and re-install
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:25] <ecn> this is very strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:42] <ecn> bonus: there's a new release!
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:57] <maigaur> now on /Devices /Servers /Windows /DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:06] <ecn> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:08] <maigaur> no graphs :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:15] <ecn> do you see graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:46] <ecn> what do you seen in log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F020.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806416C683.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BAA29.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:03] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064112385.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:07] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BE323.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:08] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806414286F.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:11] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:13] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:15] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064186F42.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:19] <maigaur> but it is not
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:21] <maigaur> on my device you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:23] <maigaur> dsi13 is mine
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:50] <ecn> I don't know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:54] <ecn> what the problem can be
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:55] <maigaur> i sent you a second screen capture by the way
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[10-Jul-2006 11:01:33] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:36] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:44] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:47] <ecn> ok...
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:49] <maigaur> not working :/
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:54] <ecn> something is wrong with your config
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:01] <ecn> because it is not trying to show you performance data
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:08] <ecn> for Server/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:37] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:43] <ecn> That is, it is presently not configured to collect performance data for anything in the class "Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:55] <ecn> somehow you have lost that built-in configuration
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:02] <maigaur> maybe
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:08] <maigaur> i don t know
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:13] <maigaur> how i have done that
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:25] <ecn> perhaps it never loaded properly on install?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:51] <maigaur> when I installed zenoss you mean ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:54] <ecn> yes
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:04] <maigaur> how can i see that
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:10] <maigaur> you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:14] <maigaur> i have vmware server
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:19] <ecn> zenbuild.log may have errors in it
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:47] <maigaur> and vmare client running on a suse box
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:59] <maigaur> after
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:01] <maigaur> i launch
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:03] <maigaur> zenoss iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:05] <maigaur> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:11] <maigaur> and then
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:23] <maigaur> zenodisc --run netwoek
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:25] <ecn> oh, right
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:30] <ecn> you are running the VM iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:31] <ecn> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:35] <maigaur> yep
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:36] <ecn> you didn't install it
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:40] <maigaur> no
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:54] <ecn> oh, well, then there's a new VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:06:45] <maigaur> ah yes ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:22] <maigaur> can you tell me where to download it please ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:59] <ecn> <a href="http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip">http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip</a>
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:33] <maigaur> oki
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:38] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:47] <maigaur> that may solve my problem ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:13] <ecn> I hope so
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:30] <ecn> it will be a better place to start
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:38] <ecn> for me to fix it from here 8-)
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:51] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:54] <maigaur> i believe you
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:56] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:50] <maigaur> but you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:55] <maigaur> my windows server is working ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:02] <maigaur> why isn"t it collecting
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:03] <maigaur> perf
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:05] <maigaur>
[10-Jul-2006 11:12:52] <ecn> somehow you have lost the configuration at the level /Server/Windows that tells it what OIDs to collect and how to graph them
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:17] <maigaur> how is it possibl
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:19] <maigaur> e
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:28] <maigaur> how is the website built ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:25:40] <ecn> I don't know how it could have happend
[10-Jul-2006 11:26:01] <ecn> it was not that way in the original VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:27:02] <ecn> (I'm checking that right now)
[10-Jul-2006 11:31:30] <ecn> nope, it's all good in the original image
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[10-Jul-2006 11:54:41] <creiht> edahl: So I'm trying out the new process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:18] <creiht> If I add the process in Processes, should it automatically detect the process running on any devices that I have, or do I need to do something else?
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:55] <edahl> you need to run a model pass on the device to be monitored
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:03] <creiht> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:08] <edahl> regex of process must match target
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:58] <creiht> hey that is pretty cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> I just did something very simple for my first test
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> httpd
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:53] <creiht> wow that looks very cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:59:51] <creiht> ok now for SNMP traps
[10-Jul-2006 12:00:11] <creiht> Do I need to send ZenOSS a test trap first?
[10-Jul-2006 12:04:35] <ecn> yes, that's the easiest way
[10-Jul-2006 12:10:09] <creiht> cool... I'll have to try that later
[10-Jul-2006 12:18:03] <creiht> ecn or edahl: So for the process monitoring, if I am monitoring something like httpd which will be multiple processes, is the memory and cpu usage the total across all the processes, or is it something else?
[10-Jul-2006 12:26:58] <ecn> it's something else
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:11] <ecn> you have a choice: monitor a single process' cpu & mem
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:19] <ecn> or monitor the count of processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:29:39] <creiht> oh
[10-Jul-2006 12:30:13] <creiht> What if I want to see how much memory and cpu all the processes are using?
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[10-Jul-2006 12:36:08] <ecn> ya, I know
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:47] <ecn> SNMP publishes the cpu/memory for each process
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:50] <ecn> which is good
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:04] <ecn> so we dynamically detect the processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:16] <ecn> and then set up RRD files for the process, by name
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:29] <ecn> we would have to track the stats by process ID
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:33] <ecn> and those are dynamic
[10-Jul-2006 12:38:02] <ecn> we can't get a total value for all the devices to store just that
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[10-Jul-2006 12:53:09] <creiht> hmm
[10-Jul-2006 12:57:37] <creiht> That is a bit of a difficult problem to solve
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[10-Jul-2006 16:40:27] <creiht> edahl: General question... Given the following hypothetical situation:
[10-Jul-2006 16:40:58] <creiht> 1. I were to use zenoss to discover a network that included several routers and switches and servers
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:31] <creiht> If a router goes down, would Zenoss be smart enough to alert me that the router is down, and not spam me with all the devices that are down behind it?
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:58] <edahl> yes it should
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <edahl> assuming that your net layout is sane
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <creiht> hmmm
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:17] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:20] <edahl>
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:24] <creiht> It should be mostly sane
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:40] <edahl> some people put all routers on one vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:45] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:00] <edahl> I think this messes us up... I haven't done extensive testing with this setup
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:10] <creiht> I don't think we do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:22] <edahl> can you test?
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:39] <creiht> I dunno... I have someone here poking me for some information
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:55] <creiht> Let me figure out where they are going
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:40] <creiht> I think we have networks set up where there are two routers (1 primary and 1 secondary) per vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:42] <edahl> cool
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:45] <creiht> For the most part
[10-Jul-2006 16:47:38] <creiht> edahl: And for a totally off the wall question... What do you guys use for IP space management?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:10] <edahl> hum what do you mean?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:28] <edahl> we can ping sweep a net and list the free ips etc
[10-Jul-2006 16:49:31] <creiht> Well I'm talking more about managing IP blocks allocated from ARIN, sending justification reports to ARIN, managing which IP's get assigned to which devices, etc.
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:11] <edahl> we should be able to do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:27] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting maybe we should setup another phone conversation?
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:32] <edahl> I'm pretty free tomorrow
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:44] <creiht> hehe... well... I wasn't expecting it to be in the ZenOSS domain... was wondering what you have used personall for that type of thing
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:59] <edahl> ok
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:05] <edahl> well I think we can do it
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:08] <edahl>
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:28] <creiht> For example Cisco makes this:
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:56] <creiht> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/netmgtsw/ps1982/products_data_sheet0900aecd803f1ae8.html
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:04] <edahl> cool I will take a look
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:10] <edahl> let's talk more tomorrow
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[11-Jul-2006 08:58:51] <jaclu> Helo I have been trying out zenoss for some time. Now I am looking into more of the features and am a bit surprised, the Software/Hardware tabs dont have any "add" option, and for neither I cant find any docs except for in Admin Guide 6.8.3,6.8.4 and they dont say anything on how to use this feature
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[11-Jul-2006 09:09:21] <jaclu> is there any gui to enter soft/hard-ware entries, or must it be done directly in zope?
[11-Jul-2006 09:10:21] <edahl> zope is the GUI
[11-Jul-2006 09:11:55] <jaclu> Yes I now
What I ment was if there was any place in the zenoss pages, adding stuff directly in the zope manage gui isnt very apropriate for non techies[11-Jul-2006 09:13:07] *** Fishstickz has joined #zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <jaclu> Of course I guess I could hack a few forms for this, but it surprises me that this isnt already in there somewhere, somebody has after all taken the time to add the hard/soft-ware feature
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:13] <edahl> wait maybe I misunderstood there is a GUI that we make different from ZMI there is no need to see that
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:53] <edahl> http://yourbox:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addDevice
[11-Jul-2006 09:15:07] <zaf> jaclu, it's in the add device page
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[11-Jul-2006 09:16:34] <jaclu> Yes and no I have seen that instance, but that form only gives one software/device, my plan was to use the software feature to try to keep an inventory off installed software, so I will need multiple Software entries per device
[11-Jul-2006 09:18:35] <edahl> software is auto-discovered
[11-Jul-2006 09:18:45] <edahl> shouldn't need to manually add it
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[11-Jul-2006 09:20:35] <jaclu> Well it hasnt auto-discovered for me
Are you using the running-apps list from snmp, if so how do you guess versions? Also not all comercial software is running all the time. so snmp doesnt seem to be a suitable way to detect.[11-Jul-2006 09:21:43] *** gumpa has joined #zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 09:24:10] <ecn> yes, it is using the process list from snmp
[11-Jul-2006 09:24:36] <ecn> the intent of software monitoring was to watch programs that should always be running (like a database or web server)
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:33] <ecn> (err.. process monitoring... not software monitoring)
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:44] <edahl> we get software installed on the box
[11-Jul-2006 09:26:58] <edahl> by using HRSWInstalled section of HOST-RESOURCES-MIB
[11-Jul-2006 09:27:13] <edahl> on Linux this gives list of rpms installed
[11-Jul-2006 09:28:11] <edahl> redhat that is
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:35] <maigaur> ecn ?
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:38] <maigaur> hello
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:48] <ecn> hey
[11-Jul-2006 09:29:57] <maigaur> with the new version
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:20] <maigaur> perf is working
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:22] <maigaur> but basic
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:27] <jaclu> ok, but that doesnt solve comercial apps installed on win-servers, since somebody entered 319 entries under /Manufacturers/Microsoft,,,
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:27] <maigaur> commands don t
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:30] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:35] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:37] <maigaur> ;(
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:39] <maigaur> out
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:45] <maigaur> but manually it works
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:54] <maigaur> using add in management tab
[11-Jul-2006 09:30:59] <edahl> jaclu: we should get list of installed sw on windows
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:01] <maigaur> i am happy to see the graphs
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:35] <edahl> the entries in /Manufacturers/WIndows
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:40] <edahl> where auto-discovered
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:47] <edahl> when something new comes in
[11-Jul-2006 09:31:53] <ecn> maigaur: I don't understand "basic commands dont't work"
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:00] <maigaur> i can t do
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:01] <ecn> can you provide an example?
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:03] <maigaur> zendisc
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:06] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:09] <maigaur> not working
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:10] <edahl> it gets placed in /Unknown
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:14] <maigaur> it crashes
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:18] <maigaur> don t recognize
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:22] <maigaur> my devices
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:23] <edahl> then you can move to proper Manufacturer
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:26] <maigaur> as it did before
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:32] <ecn> ok, can you email me the data you get that tells you that it crashed?
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:38] <maigaur> mm
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:41] <maigaur> ok
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:49] <maigaur> he is searching
[11-Jul-2006 09:32:52] <maigaur> for 30minutes
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:00] <maigaur> for a network 192.168.0.0
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:03] <maigaur> not existing
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:06] <maigaur> and can t find
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:09] <maigaur> my existing
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[11-Jul-2006 09:33:12] <maigaur> 172.29.1.0
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:14] <maigaur> :/
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:26] <Duf> hello, i am having trouble installing zenoss on a SuSE server
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:37] <Duf> the python build environment cannot be founbd
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:39] <Duf> *found
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:45] <Duf> if anyone can help, please message me
[11-Jul-2006 09:33:58] <ecn> Duf: you need the python development environment 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:08] <ecn> further, you need to build python yourself on suse 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:31] <ecn> I dunno what they did to python on SuSE, but it needs a plain python install
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:39] <maigaur> duf i can help
[11-Jul-2006 09:34:44] <maigaur> i have just made it work
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:03] <maigaur> what i did
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:06] <maigaur> i installed
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:07] <Duf> i have python 2.4
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:09] <maigaur> apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:10] <Duf> in my /usr/bin
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:21] <maigaur> and then apt-get install python
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:25] <maigaur> and it worked
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:37] <maigaur> yes
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:42] <maigaur> python 2.4 for me too
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:48] <maigaur> but there are dependencies
[11-Jul-2006 09:35:52] <Duf> cool, i'm going to try
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:26] <Duf> cannot find apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:29] <maigaur> wait
[11-Jul-2006 09:36:33] <Duf> in the software available for installation
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:58] <maigaur> go to http://linux01.gwdg.de/~scorot
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:58] <adytum-bot> Title: Index of /~scorot (at linux01.gwdg.de)
[11-Jul-2006 09:37:59] <maigaur> then
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:27] <maigaur> get this one
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:28] <maigaur> install-apt4suse-0.2.5-1.noarch.rpm
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:33] <maigaur> after install it
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:38] <maigaur> you will be able to use
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:47] <maigaur> .deb packages they are easier
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:59] <maigaur> after do
[11-Jul-2006 09:38:59] <maigaur> install-apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:15] <maigaur> and check what are the dependencies in zenoss doc
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:22] <maigaur> you ll just have to do
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:28] <maigaur> apt-get install nameofthepackage
[11-Jul-2006 09:39:42] <Duf> k
[11-Jul-2006 09:41:26] <Duf> thanks for the help
[11-Jul-2006 09:46:13] <maigaur> is it working ?
[11-Jul-2006 09:49:54] <Duf> i did an install-apt4suse
[11-Jul-2006 09:49:58] <Duf> successful
[11-Jul-2006 09:50:07] <Duf> i wonder what the name of the package is for python
[11-Jul-2006 09:51:57] <Duf> did an apt-get install pyth*
[11-Jul-2006 09:52:05] <Duf> python is already the newest version
[11-Jul-2006 09:54:52] <Duf> still problems
[11-Jul-2006 09:54:58] <Duf> Unable to find python build environment
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:33] <maigaur> i looked in the documentatiuon
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:36] <maigaur> package name
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:41] <maigaur> for python environemeny
[11-Jul-2006 09:57:45] <maigaur> is python-dev
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:13] <maigaur> for my self, i have a problem
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:18] <maigaur> if a developer could come
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:22] <maigaur> the new version
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:28] <maigaur> of vmware version
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:29] <maigaur> enables me
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:34] <maigaur> to have the perf graph
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:38] <maigaur> but i can t do
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:44] <maigaur> the automatic discovery
[11-Jul-2006 09:58:58] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:03] <maigaur> maybe in the next release
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:05] <maigaur> ^^
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:19] <Duf> could not find package
[11-Jul-2006 09:59:22] <Duf> i'm still having trouble
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:18] <maigaur> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586/python-devel-2.4.3-3.i586.rpm
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:22] <maigaur> get this file
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:27] <maigaur> and installe
[11-Jul-2006 10:01:31] <maigaur> think it is a good one
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:13] <Duf> k be back in a few hrs
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:16] <Duf> thanks for the help
[11-Jul-2006 10:02:18] <Duf> meeting now
[11-Jul-2006 10:03:43] <maigaur> k
[11-Jul-2006 10:03:45] <maigaur> bye$
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[11-Jul-2006 10:04:29] <maigaur> help ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <maigaur> how can i add disc space
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:38] <maigaur> to perf graph
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:38] <maigaur> ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:04:58] <edahl> look in os
[11-Jul-2006 10:05:01] <edahl> under filesystems
[11-Jul-2006 10:05:04] <edahl> should be there
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[11-Jul-2006 10:22:15] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:18] <maigaur> works
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:25] <maigaur> in fact
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:28] <maigaur> if i uninstall
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:34] <maigaur> snmp-informant
[11-Jul-2006 10:22:42] <maigaur> what informations will i loose ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:23:22] <ecn> host cpu & memory
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:04] <maigaur> ok
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:07] <maigaur> is it possible
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:12] <maigaur> to send mail alerts
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:23] <maigaur> when cpu idle is too high
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:28] <maigaur> or not enough memory
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:40] <ecn> yep
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:48] <maigaur> how ?
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <maigaur> but ecn
[11-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <ecn> you can set thresholds on those values
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:00] <ecn> that will generate an event
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:04] <ecn> which you can turn into mail
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:07] <maigaur> now i can t auto discover my network :'-(
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:19] <ecn> nothing really changed in that part
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:27] <maigaur> i promess you
[11-Jul-2006 10:25:34] <maigaur> something must have changed
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:01] <ecn> there should be thresholds set on the cpu & memory by default
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:09] <ecn> oops...
[11-Jul-2006 10:26:16] <ecn> erik just told me only on CPU
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:03] <maigaur> in your new vmware
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:05] <maigaur> version
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:10] <maigaur> there is a problem
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:22] <maigaur> but i don t care i finally have the grapgs
[11-Jul-2006 10:27:26] <maigaur> that is all i wnated
[11-Jul-2006 10:28:00] <ecn> if you could run a zendisc and capture the error that you belive you saw, it would be helpful to us
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:06] <maigaur> first of all
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:11] <maigaur> it is very very slow
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:23] <maigaur> after he finds my router
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:47] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discover network '192.168.0.0'
[11-Jul-2006 10:35:54] <maigaur> after he "crashes"
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:02] <maigaur> he stays on that screen
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:06] <maigaur> and nothing
[11-Jul-2006 10:36:37] <ecn> got to Networks -> zProperties tab, edit "zDefaultNetworkTree" to contain 2 lines, with just 24 and 32 (remove the 16).
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:02] <ecn> He's just trying to ping 65535 addresses. It takes a while.
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:28] <ecn> delete everything under networks
[11-Jul-2006 10:37:34] <ecn> and try to rediscover
[11-Jul-2006 10:48:50] <creiht> So after reading a bit in the forums... Should I go ahead and upgrade to 0.21 or wait for 0.21.1?
[11-Jul-2006 11:03:56] <edahl> hum can you give 0.21 a shot
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:00] <edahl> 0
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:04] <edahl> 0.21.0
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:24] <creiht> hmmm... ok
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:25] <edahl> are you in test mode or production
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:26] <edahl> ?
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:33] <creiht> production
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:37] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:44] <creiht> I did a simple test of .21 and things looked pretty good
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:53] <creiht> but then I saw ticket #176
[11-Jul-2006 11:04:54] <edahl> ok then go for it
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:01] <creiht> And wondered if that was going to be a problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:04] <edahl> yes It was a strange one
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:17] <edahl> is zenstatus working for you?
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:22] <edahl> in test
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:24] <edahl> ?
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:36] <creiht> It was... but I only had 1 or 2 machines monitoring in test
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:38] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 11:05:55] <edahl> if you have a problem its a one liner to fix it
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:02] <creiht> sounds good
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:07] <creiht> I'll upgrade then
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:11] <creiht> crosses fingers
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:15] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:16] <edahl> cool ping me if you have problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:06:25] <creiht> Will do... Thanks for the help
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[11-Jul-2006 11:10:00] <edahl> no problem
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> zendisc run
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:my hostname = localhost.localdomain
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:my ip = 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:19] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:discovered 0 active ips
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:20] <maigaur> INFO:zen.ZenDisc:stopping...
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:26] <maigaur> but
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:34] <maigaur> if i add my computer it works
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:37] <maigaur> 172.29.1.85
[11-Jul-2006 11:15:38] <maigaur> :/
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[11-Jul-2006 11:27:01] <Duf> hey i'm back from the meeting
[11-Jul-2006 11:27:35] <Duf> still can't get the python build environment
[11-Jul-2006 11:27:42] <Duf> after doing an apt
[11-Jul-2006 11:29:24] <maigaur> sorry duf i have to go
[11-Jul-2006 11:29:56] <ecn> Duf: other people have been successful by using the python sources tarball from python.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:03] <ecn> for SuSE 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:10] <ecn> it's not hard to build
[11-Jul-2006 11:30:33] <edahl> maigaur: you shouldn't run zendisc on 127.0.0.1
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:09] <maigaur> if i do
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:19] <maigaur> zendisc run --net 172.29.1.0
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:27] <maigaur> it was working with the old version
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:33] <maigaur> now, i have an error
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:33] <edahl> how many devices are you adding?
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:41] <edahl> can you add from the UI?
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:45] <maigaur> yeo
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:47] <maigaur> yep
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:49] <Duf> thanks, i'll try tarball.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:50] <maigaur> i can add manualy
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:54] <edahl> that might be the easiest way
[11-Jul-2006 11:31:56] <Duf> err python.org
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <ecn> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.3/Python-2.4.3.tgz
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <maigaur> but i would like to do as before
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <creiht> edahl: Are there problems if you use spaces in the Device names?
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:53] <maigaur> it was great
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:54] <maigaur> it shew that to my boss
[11-Jul-2006 11:32:56] <maigaur> lol
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:00] <maigaur> he was impressed
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:14] <edahl> creiht: shouldn't be
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:36] <edahl> maigaur: cool
[11-Jul-2006 11:33:46] <maigaur> but now :/
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:04] <maigaur> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13 -v 10 works
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:26] <creiht> edahl: I'm getting this error in zenperfsnmp.log:
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:34] <creiht> 2006-07-11 10:30:29 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: xmlrpclib.Fault: <Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: Products.ZCTextIndex.ParseTree.ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, 'OnyxAppServer1' found">
[11-Jul-2006 11:34:56] <creiht> Where the device name for that server is "{UK} OnyxAppServer1"
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:12] <maigaur> edahl
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:15] <maigaur> it is working
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:16] <maigaur> now
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:23] <maigaur> 2 hours after installation
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:28] <maigaur> he found my network
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:35] <maigaur> but you know
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:41] <maigaur> it is different than before
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:52] <maigaur> WARNING:zen.IpAddress:172.29.1.223: (1, 'Unknown host')
[11-Jul-2006 11:36:58] <maigaur> i have those warning now
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:05] <maigaur> i didn"t have them before
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:07] <maigaur> :/
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:10] <maigaur> before great
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:14] <maigaur> he discovers
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:20] <maigaur> great job guys
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:21] <maigaur>
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:26] <maigaur> now
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:30] <maigaur> last thing to know
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:39] <maigaur> please explain me
[11-Jul-2006 11:37:44] <maigaur> how to do that
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> ecn> you can set thresholds on those values
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> <ecn> that will generate an event
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:42] <maigaur> <ecn> which you can turn into mail
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:44] <maigaur> please
[11-Jul-2006 11:38:48] <maigaur> last thing to know
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[11-Jul-2006 11:40:43] <ecn> first, try to generate an event by pushing your cpu load high enough
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:08] <ecn> then read the section in the system admin guide on events
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:21] <ecn> because I haven't read it yet ;-)
[11-Jul-2006 11:41:50] <ecn> check w/me later this week if you are still having problems... I will have learned the code by then
[11-Jul-2006 11:45:56] <ecn> FYI, this will push your cpu up:
[11-Jul-2006 11:46:00] <ecn> bash -c 'while :; do true ; done'
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[11-Jul-2006 11:57:40] <Duf> how do you set the password for the Zenoss "admin" user?
[11-Jul-2006 12:16:24] <navers_> i'm pretty sure it's "zenpass -u admin initusr" then follow prompts
[11-Jul-2006 12:16:36] <navers_> might be inituser.
[11-Jul-2006 12:17:53] <Duf> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:31] <Duf> zenpass is an invalid command
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:36] <Duf> i need to install zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:44] <Duf> and when i run ./install.sh it asks for the zenoss password
[11-Jul-2006 12:18:47] <Duf> for admin
[11-Jul-2006 12:19:01] <navers_> mm. yeah. just set it to whatever you want
[11-Jul-2006 12:20:12] <amodlin> you're running the install script and its asking for the password right at the start, right?
[11-Jul-2006 12:20:56] <Duf> correct
[11-Jul-2006 12:22:09] <Duf> it's asking for the password
[11-Jul-2006 12:25:42] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 12:25:55] <amodlin> yeah, that's just for the initial setup for the web interface password
[11-Jul-2006 12:26:16] <amodlin> you can set it to whatever you like, it will just be the password for how you access it from the web interface
[11-Jul-2006 12:27:57] <Duf> that's not helping me
[11-Jul-2006 12:28:00] <Duf> it's how you set it
[11-Jul-2006 12:28:10] <Duf> i cannot install zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 12:29:00] <Duf> hey it's lunchtime now
[11-Jul-2006 12:29:07] <Duf> be back around 1:30ish EDT
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[11-Jul-2006 14:11:55] <Duf> i'm back
[11-Jul-2006 14:11:58] <Duf> here is the status on my install
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:08] <Duf> it says to set the zenoss admin password
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:12] <Duf> and the zenpass command does not work
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:18] <Duf> how can this be done?
[11-Jul-2006 14:12:53] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:13:09] <amodlin> if you're just doing the install for the first time you don't need to do the zenpass command
[11-Jul-2006 14:14:00] <amodlin> just run the install.sh, select your username, it'll ask for the password for your mySQL database and the password you wish to setup for the zenoss admin user
[11-Jul-2006 14:15:33] <Duf> i have the mysql password correct
[11-Jul-2006 14:15:46] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:05] <Duf> but what do i type for Password for the Zenoss "admin" user?
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:13] <amodlin> anything you want
[11-Jul-2006 14:16:31] <amodlin> the password you type is what you will later use to access Zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:08] <Duf> k
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:19] <amodlin> get it working?
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:23] <Duf> it says "mkdir: cannot create directory build
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:26] <Duf> permission deanied
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:31] <Duf> *denied
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:43] <amodlin> ah ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:49] <Duf> it has before, but i was guessing that the password was the problem
[11-Jul-2006 14:20:57] <amodlin> the permissions in the install directory are not set correctly
[11-Jul-2006 14:21:26] <amodlin> what user are you running the install as, and what user/group owns the install directory (the one you un-tared or SVNed)
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:32] <Duf> i'm running install as zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:41] <Duf> and root owns the install directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:51] <amodlin> ok, you have to set the ownership of the install directory to zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 14:23:58] <Duf> how?
[11-Jul-2006 14:24:19] <amodlin> what is the path to the install directory?
[11-Jul-2006 14:28:58] <Duf> hold on
[11-Jul-2006 14:29:29] <Duf> what are some example paths?
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:06] <amodlin> well, where did you untar the download to?
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:12] <amodlin> that'll be your install directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:27] <Duf> usr/bin
[11-Jul-2006 14:30:37] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:05] <amodlin> so is there a directory in usr/bin?
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:09] <Duf> so to set the ownership to zenoss, what should i do?
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:36] <Duf> move the install directory to /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:48] <amodlin> ok you need to type chown zenoss:zenoss /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:31:50] <amodlin> as root
[11-Jul-2006 14:32:12] <ecn> chown -R
[11-Jul-2006 14:32:22] <amodlin> right, sorry. chown -R
[11-Jul-2006 14:33:29] <Duf> ok lemme try that
[11-Jul-2006 14:33:54] <Duf> zenoss:zenoss invalid group
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:21] <amodlin> hm
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:34] <amodlin> you have a zenoss user, correct?
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:54] <amodlin> try chown zenoss:users /usr/bin/zenoss-0.20.1
[11-Jul-2006 14:34:58] <amodlin> chown -R, sorry
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:11] <bubba> can someone help me find or explain the format for bulk-loading devices in zenoss?
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:53] <Duf> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:35:55] <Duf> let's see now
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:15] <Duf> it's working
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:16] <Duf> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:20] <ecn> bubba: is discovery not working for you?
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:22] <Duf> or not
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:25] <Duf> error again
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:30] <amodlin> what error?
[11-Jul-2006 14:36:52] <Duf> unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:05] <bubba> ecn: yes, but I'd like to load an existing inventory with custom fields into the system
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:06] <Duf> last thing it did was "configuring build/Zope-2.8.7-final/makefile
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:10] <amodlin> ok, tail zenbuild.log
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:17] <amodlin> what does it give you
[11-Jul-2006 14:37:53] <Duf> talks about the lib-dynload directory
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:01] <Duf> and run the configure script with --ignore-zlib
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:10] <amodlin> hmmm
[11-Jul-2006 14:38:50] <amodlin> ecn would know more about that than me, sounds like it might be a missing library
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:12] <ecn> bubba: this is really bleeding edge for a new user, but if you are motivated:
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:30] <Duf> yeah no zlib library installed
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:42] <Duf> need a Python interpreter with includes the zlib module
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:49] <ecn> bubba: see XmlDataLoader.py and XmlDataDump.py in ZenModel
[11-Jul-2006 14:39:54] <amodlin> what version of python do you have Duf
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:03] <amodlin> and do you have python-devel
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:03] <Duf> 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:13] <Duf> i don't think so
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:26] <amodlin> ok
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:30] <ecn> bubba: that's how we pre-load data into Zenoss: the initial object structure
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:33] <amodlin> you'll definately need to get python-devel
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:49] <Duf> i'm sure i can apt that
[11-Jul-2006 14:40:58] <bubba> ecn: great! I'll dig into it
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:00] <amodlin> yep
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:02] <bubba> thanks
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:09] <amodlin> what distro are you using?
[11-Jul-2006 14:41:22] <Duf> okay it's installing, 14 MB of disk space will be used
[11-Jul-2006 14:46:56] <amodlin> sounds good
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[11-Jul-2006 14:50:35] <Duf> same thing
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:39] <Duf> unable to build
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:45] <Duf> but i'll be back later this afternoon or tomorrow
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:48] <Duf> i have a meeting now
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:52] <Duf> thanks for all of your help
[11-Jul-2006 14:50:54] <amodlin> ok
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[11-Jul-2006 14:59:36] <landonf> What's the point of giving the zenoss user sudo access to kill and *python*?
[11-Jul-2006 15:00:13] <landonf> Not to mention, env_keep += "PYTHONPATH" is a great way to allow people to bypass sudo limitations.
[11-Jul-2006 15:00:48] <ecn> python sends ping packets, and root access is required for that
[11-Jul-2006 15:01:04] <ecn> python listens on priveledged ports (syslog, snmp traps)
[11-Jul-2006 15:01:10] <landonf> You don't need to provide a path to priviledge escalation in order to do that.
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:17] <ecn> hmm.. yes, we probably could set up the path internally based upon some other element, like where python is running from
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:32] <ecn> but, python itself opens a pandora's box of exposure
[11-Jul-2006 15:02:40] <landonf> Or start and stop as root (like every other piece of software that requires privileges)
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:09] <landonf> ecn: I don't see how Python inherently opens a pandroa's box of exposure.
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:55] <landonf> Oh, I see. Running under sudo.
[11-Jul-2006 15:03:59] <ecn> it is dynamically finding modules to run
[11-Jul-2006 15:04:16] <landonf> So is everything else, hurrah for dynamic linkers.
[11-Jul-2006 15:04:20] <ecn> 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:02] <landonf> It'd seem a vast improvement to just run as root and drop privileges. I'm not seeing the benefit to starting/stopping daemons as the zenoss user.
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:13] <ecn> please feel free to configure it that way
[11-Jul-2006 15:05:32] <ecn> the fact that you are asking these questions places you in the top 5% of users we are dealing with
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:02] <landonf> That's depressing
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:07] <ecn> you have no idea
[11-Jul-2006 15:06:47] <ecn> for development (which is where we are now)... sudo works very well, and I never edit files as root, which is a good thing
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:00] <landonf> And super handy for development
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:02] <ecn> but it's completely possible to set it up the way you suggest
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:19] <ecn> I did for the first couple of weeks I worked on zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:36] <ecn> if you find some impediment to doing that, let us know and we'll fix it
[11-Jul-2006 15:07:47] <landonf> This is bumping up against the dichotomy of development vs production deployment.
[11-Jul-2006 15:12:49] <landonf> hmm
[11-Jul-2006 15:12:58] <landonf> The install script assumes the database name
[11-Jul-2006 15:13:26] <landonf> As well as SUPER access.
[11-Jul-2006 15:21:11] <landonf> Oh man. From the trac install, on why not to use PostgreSQL: "Don't think this will be any time soon. Need to have in memory tables and speed which is why we use MySQL."
[11-Jul-2006 15:22:53] <ecn> SUPER access is for the trigger
[11-Jul-2006 15:23:17] <ecn> haven't stopped to figure out how to add that permission for a regular user (yet)
[11-Jul-2006 15:24:41] <ecn> as for the in-memory thing: I know we get blasted with a lot of events at one time when Bad Things Happen at a site with a thousand devices
[11-Jul-2006 15:24:59] <ecn> but I'm not sure that there was any sort of performance measurement made
[11-Jul-2006 15:25:27] <ecn> I would like to see us move towards a more general python OR mapping library so that we can choose our database later (like during installation)
[11-Jul-2006 15:25:41] <ecn> but, that's not going to happen soon
[11-Jul-2006 15:26:46] <landonf> I was looking at the ORM trac bug
[11-Jul-2006 15:27:00] <landonf> Your database use isn't that complex, is it?
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:28] <ecn> meh... no, not really
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:41] <ecn> but we're using a much of mysqlish things
[11-Jul-2006 15:29:50] <ecn> like... commands that create the database
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:00] <ecn> deal with "if doesn't exist, make table"
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:11] <ecn> and an ORM would handle that in python
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:38] <landonf> *nod*
[11-Jul-2006 15:30:59] <ecn> there's the trigger to maintain the history of events
[11-Jul-2006 15:31:13] <ecn> which we should probably do in python for portability
[11-Jul-2006 15:31:25] <ecn> but it's really nice to not have to worry about it
[11-Jul-2006 15:33:24] <landonf> You could implement the equivalent anywhere other than sqlite, really.
[11-Jul-2006 15:35:55] <ecn> yes, but we would have to maintain it... just not a priority at the moment
[11-Jul-2006 15:36:54] <ecn> so do you push for sexier event handling, or using postgres/mysql4/oracle/sybase/sqlserver?
[11-Jul-2006 15:37:55] <landonf> Truthfully I don't put much stock in database agnosticism. We run both postgres and mysql as needed.
[11-Jul-2006 15:39:26] <landonf> After tracking down more than my fair share of bugs in MySQL, I'm more than a little opinionated as to the code quality.
[11-Jul-2006 15:41:58] <creiht> ecn or edahl: So I'm trying to test receiving snmp traps... Is there anything that I specifically need to do to set zenoss up to handle that, or should I just send the trap?
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:19] <ecn> run zentrap (which is probably running if you upgraded)
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:46] <ecn> as you get events you'll want to load mibs into the database
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:58] <ecn> (using zenmib)
[11-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <creiht> hmm
[11-Jul-2006 15:43:12] <ecn> so that your traps look prettier
[11-Jul-2006 15:43:36] <creiht> Doesn't look like zentrap loads by default
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:08] <creiht> and it doesn't look like ./bin/zenoss starts it
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:33] <ecn> did you upgrade using svn?
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:38] <ecn> or the tarball?
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:41] <creiht> tarball
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:47] <ecn> ok...
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:50] <ecn> our bad
[11-Jul-2006 15:44:59] <ecn> edit $ZENHOME/bin/zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:04] <ecn> add zenping to the big list
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:06] <ecn> oops
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:07] <creiht> right... doing that right now
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:08] <ecn> zentrap
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:11] <ecn> he
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:13] <ecn> heh
[11-Jul-2006 15:45:50] <creiht> starting zentrap also gives me an error saying that zentrap.conf wasn't found
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:08] <ecn> touch $ZENHOME/etc/zentrap.conf
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:38] <ecn> (it's just a warning, it still works)
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:51] <creiht> ok
[11-Jul-2006 15:46:52] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 15:50:05] <creiht> ecn: ok... where will the traps show up?
[11-Jul-2006 15:55:47] <landonf> Products/ZenEvents/db/loadZenEvents.sh isn't referenced anywhere. Is it used for anything?
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:15] <edahl> no its old
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:39] <edahl> creiht: traps should show in event view
[11-Jul-2006 15:56:50] <creiht> hmm... ok...
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:05] <edahl> look in /Events Event tab
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:13] <edahl> that should show all events
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:15] <creiht> Can anyone help me send a trap via command line so that I can test it
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:17] <landonf> I'm working on tweaking things a bit to support arbitrary event database names
[11-Jul-2006 15:57:44] <creiht> sorry for my still newbish understanding of snmp
[11-Jul-2006 15:58:58] <ecn> creiht: here's what I did when initially testing
[11-Jul-2006 15:59:12] <ecn> set up snmpd on your box to have zenoss as it's trap destination:
[11-Jul-2006 15:59:55] <ecn> echo 'trapsink localhost' >> /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:03] <ecn> restart snmpd:
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:17] <ecn> /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:32] <ecn> that should generate a trap (a cold start trap event)
[11-Jul-2006 16:00:57] <ecn> every time you stop/start snmpd it will send that pair of events
[11-Jul-2006 16:01:39] <ecn> and if you leave it down long enough zenperfsnmp will get mad at you and tell you that your snmpd is failing, which is comforting
[11-Jul-2006 16:02:00] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 16:03:59] <creiht> ahah
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:02] <creiht> ok so that worked
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:12] <ecn> good!
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:43] <ecn> if you have a UPS around, they are fun to hook up
[11-Jul-2006 16:04:49] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 16:05:33] <creiht> ok so then has anyone had experience setting up log4j to send snmp traps?
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:17] <edahl> not me
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:19] <ecn> not here
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:27] <creiht> ok I'll keep toying with it
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:41] <ecn> log4j... woudn't it be happier w/syslog?
[11-Jul-2006 16:06:46] <creiht> good to know that the trap mechanism is working correctly though
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:04] <creiht> ecn: In theory yes
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:14] <ecn> we saw some very nice events like "battery is in immediate need of repair" at a customer site
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:36] <creiht> ecn: But I ended up installing the zenoss on our actual syslog server
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:48] <ecn> oh
[11-Jul-2006 16:07:52] <creiht> And thus the syslog server runs on a different port
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:09] <creiht> And the log4j syslog appender doesn't let you set the port
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:12] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 16:08:41] <creiht> So in hindsight... I just need to get a new server dedicated to zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 16:09:25] <creiht> But in general there are just a handful of events that we want to capture and create alerts for, so we figured that setting up the snmp trap functionality wouldn't be too bad
[11-Jul-2006 16:19:11] <landonf> Hmmm. Would there be any objections to moving the database configuration to a proper configuration file in conf/ ?
[11-Jul-2006 16:20:42] <landonf> That'd avoid passing database password around on the command line, and I could make the event database name configurable at the same time.
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:42] <edahl> we don't pass on cmd after install
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:53] <edahl> its stored in the database
[11-Jul-2006 16:21:59] <edahl> zeo database
[11-Jul-2006 16:22:14] <landonf> Ah. Hmm.
[11-Jul-2006 16:26:38] <landonf> What's the evaluation criterea for putting a setting in the zeo db instead of the conf/ files?
[11-Jul-2006 16:27:44] <ecn> not everything has a zeo connection
[11-Jul-2006 16:28:18] <ecn> the rest are just commandline parameters and the conf file provides a way to override them
[11-Jul-2006 16:29:09] <landonf> Ah, okay.
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[11-Jul-2006 16:35:51] <Duf> hey i'm bacik
[11-Jul-2006 16:35:53] <Duf> *back
[11-Jul-2006 16:36:06] <Duf> i installed the zlib.so library but i keep getting the same error
[11-Jul-2006 16:37:04] <edahl> duf: it might be worth trying out the vmware image just to get the eval going. Also is a good reference on how to setup the system
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:14] <Duf> i have the install instructions
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:17] <Duf> but i am stuck at a point
[11-Jul-2006 16:38:44] <ecn> what does it say at the end of the zenbuild.log?
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:27] <Duf> The Python interpreter you are using does not appear to have the 'zlib' library module installed
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:40] <Duf> i downloaded a python-zlib package for 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:43] <Duf> and installed it
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:48] <Duf> but i still get the error
[11-Jul-2006 16:39:58] <Duf> it says to run the configure script with the --ignore-zlib option
[11-Jul-2006 16:40:05] <Duf> which i did, but i still got the error
[11-Jul-2006 16:41:14] <ecn> Duf: what distro are you using?
[11-Jul-2006 16:42:54] <Duf> of linux?
[11-Jul-2006 16:42:59] <Duf> i'm using SuSE 10.1
[11-Jul-2006 16:43:49] <ecn> and you downloaded and installed python using the tarball from python.org?
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:17] <Duf> yes
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:19] <Duf> python 2.4.3
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:41] <ecn> ok.. make sure that zenoss is using /usr/local/bin/python
[11-Jul-2006 16:44:46] <ecn> during the install
[11-Jul-2006 16:45:01] <ecn> in fact, delete $ZENHOME and start the install process again
[11-Jul-2006 16:45:58] <Duf> ok thanks
[11-Jul-2006 16:49:32] <Duf> how do I delete $ZENHOME
[11-Jul-2006 16:49:44] <Duf> i'm a newbie to unix
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:00] <ecn> Duf: you really need the vmware image 8-)
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:23] <ecn> you can run it under windows with the free vmplayer
[11-Jul-2006 16:50:41] <ecn> (the answer to your question, btw is "rm -rf $ZENHOME"
[11-Jul-2006 16:51:58] <Duf> here are the instructions for installing
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:06] <Duf> export ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:16] <Duf> export PYTHONPATH=$ZENHOME/lib/python
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:29] <Duf> export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:33] <ecn> Duf... I am somewhat familiar with the install instructions
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:45] <Duf> are any of those wrong
[11-Jul-2006 16:52:50] <Duf> or should i go ahead and do it like that again?
[11-Jul-2006 16:53:32] <ecn> sure, there are probably things you don't need to do again, but just do them all over again
[11-Jul-2006 16:53:39] <ecn> good practice
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[11-Jul-2006 16:54:55] <BullGates> Hello
[11-Jul-2006 16:57:06] <BullGates> pardon me one question: any of you knows where to get some updated MIBS for Microsoft Windows 2003 R2 and Vmware ESX?
[11-Jul-2006 17:01:12] <edahl> I haven't seen any
[11-Jul-2006 17:01:21] <edahl> does vmware esx publish a mib?
[11-Jul-2006 17:02:28] <BullGates> I really don't know
[11-Jul-2006 17:03:04] <BullGates> the esx servers display performance graphs
[11-Jul-2006 17:03:21] <BullGates> but the windows servers don't
[11-Jul-2006 17:07:04] <Duf> same crap with zlib going on
[11-Jul-2006 17:07:07] <Duf> and i have the library
[11-Jul-2006 17:12:21] <landonf> So the externallibs are installed regardless of their availability on the system?
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:09] <edahl> no we look to see if the are already installed
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:18] <edahl> except rrdtool
[11-Jul-2006 17:21:28] <edahl> which we need to build with python libs
[11-Jul-2006 17:24:41] <landonf> Must be misreading zenossinst
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[11-Jul-2006 17:28:14] <edahl> the make file looks for deps
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:30] <creiht> edahl: For the process monitoring does the regex apply against the hrSWRunName or does it also include hrSWRunParameters?
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:45] <edahl> both together
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:53] * edahl joined with a space
[11-Jul-2006 17:33:56] <creiht> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:36:18] <creiht> Is the hrSWRunPath thrown in there anywhere?
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:14] <edahl> no not today
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:18] <edahl> do you need it?
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:21] <creiht> no
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:24] <edahl> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:25] <creiht> Just making sure
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:29] <edahl>
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:43] <creiht> Monitoring JBOSS processes is a bit more difficult than I expected
[11-Jul-2006 17:37:56] <creiht> But I think I have it figured out now
[11-Jul-2006 17:38:24] <sbellows> didn't know it had processes
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[11-Jul-2006 17:47:14] <creiht> Whoa
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:22] <creiht> ok so I'm monitoring jboss now
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:42] <creiht> But the name that shows up is the whole name plus parameters
[11-Jul-2006 17:47:48] <creiht> Which is fairly long
[11-Jul-2006 17:48:18] <creiht> edahl: I guess I expected it to use the name that I created when creating the process in zenoss
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[11-Jul-2006 17:49:47] <edahl> not sure I follow
[11-Jul-2006 17:49:53] <edahl> let me look at one
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:06] <creiht> Under processes I created a process called JBOSS
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:22] <creiht> That has a regex of ^java*.(jboss)*.
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:36] <edahl> ok
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:38] <creiht> I then re-ran the detection for one of our jboss server
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:43] <creiht> And when I look at the os tab
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:53] <edahl> its the full name (with params)
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:55] <creiht> I see the jboss process
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:56] <edahl> right?
[11-Jul-2006 17:50:57] <creiht> yes
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:08] <edahl> that's so we can differentiate
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:08] <creiht> For jboss it looks like this though
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:18] <creiht> java -server -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -Dprogram.name=jboss.init -Dcrm-ws.properties=/usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/server/all/deploy/axis.war/WEB-INF/lib/crm-ws.properties -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/lib/endorsed -classpath /usr/java/jboss-4.0.3SP1/bin/run.jar:/usr/java/jrockit-R26.3.0-jdk1.5.0_06/lib/tools.jar org.jboss.Main -c all -b jbosstest1.core.rackspace.com
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:20] <edahl> it has an MD5 sum
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:24] <edahl> for id
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:27] <edahl> wow
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:30] <creiht> hehe
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:31] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:35] <creiht> it is a bit verbose
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:54] <edahl> are there multiple procs?
[11-Jul-2006 17:51:59] <creiht> just one
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:04] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:13] <edahl> tough to find a good solution here
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:17] <creiht> yeah
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:25] <creiht> It will probably be alright
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:29] <creiht> except
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:35] <creiht> If it generates an alert
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:43] <creiht> Will it show that whole string in the alert?
[11-Jul-2006 17:52:58] <edahl> In the component name
[11-Jul-2006 17:53:05] <edahl> I think
[11-Jul-2006 17:54:30] <creiht> hmmm... that will be a bit much to show up in an alert
[11-Jul-2006 17:54:35] <edahl> yes
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:06] <edahl> Guess we need to allow an override that is manually set
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:14] <creiht> That would be nice
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:40] <creiht> Otherwise the process monitoring looks great so far
[11-Jul-2006 17:55:55] <edahl> cool!
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:41] <creiht> I'm not sure how to use it with apache
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:42] <creiht> though
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:53] <creiht> As we run with multiple apache processes
[11-Jul-2006 17:58:53] * edahl put it in count mode
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:16] <creiht> But then it just shows me how many pocesses are running, and not how much memory they are using
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:29] <edahl> I know
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:51] <edahl> we need a better solution for multi process setups ie appache
[11-Jul-2006 17:59:54] <creiht> Though it will be interesting to watch the counts non the less to see what those look like
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:04] <edahl> yes
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:05] <creiht> and postgres
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:10] <edahl> oh
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:18] <creiht> I think
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:20] <creiht> let me check
[11-Jul-2006 18:00:21] <creiht>
[11-Jul-2006 18:03:48] <creiht> yes
[11-Jul-2006 18:03:58] <creiht> postgresql runs with several processes
[11-Jul-2006 18:06:55] <edahl> hum
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:00] <edahl> that's a drag
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:24] <edahl> we have a plan for how to fix this but it might not happen until 0.23
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:29] <edahl> end of august
[11-Jul-2006 18:07:34] <creiht> gotcha
[11-Jul-2006 18:22:47] <creiht> edahl: Is the performance tab under Systems supposed to be working in 0.21?
[11-Jul-2006 18:24:46] <BullGates> edahl: I really appreciate your nice work.
[11-Jul-2006 18:26:15] * creiht agrees with BullGates
[11-Jul-2006 18:26:21] <BullGates> I'm evalluating the possibility of using Zenoss on the first Linux box of our company... If it happens, it will be an historic moment :-)
[11-Jul-2006 18:31:34] <landonf> hmmm. initial populating of the zeo db seems to be filling /tmp
[11-Jul-2006 18:34:57] <landonf> It's a small file system on this machine. Does the zeo db normally consume upwards of 250 megs of /tmp during initial population?
[11-Jul-2006 18:35:50] <landonf> If not, I may have introduced a bug in my changes, but this seems an unlikely failure.
[11-Jul-2006 18:40:52] <BullGates> edahl: I was reading some documentation and it seems vmware has esx mibs on their servers
[11-Jul-2006 18:41:01] <BullGates> "You can find the MIB files on VMware ESX Server, in the /usr/lib/vmware/snmp/mibs directory."
[11-Jul-2006 18:41:28] <BullGates> I will try that tomorrow if I have the time
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[11-Jul-2006 19:30:22] <landonf> wow. nearly half a gig.
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[11-Jul-2006 21:37:05] <josepf> Hi, I was hoping one of you guys could help me. I am using a VM Image of Zenoss that I downloaded from the VMware appliances web pages. Zenoss is up and running fine, but I can't seem to extract much data from my Windows XP Service Pack 2 Workstation. Is Zenoss strictly for servers? I was trying to take an inventory of my network with Zenoss. On my Windows station I have installed the SNMP service, along with the SNMP WMI. I can re
[11-Jul-2006 21:37:27] <landonf> hmmm. http://localhost:8080/zport/dmd/Monitors/Performance/localhost/getDevices is returning a site erorr (resource doesn't exist)
[11-Jul-2006 21:37:35] <landonf> Causing zenperfsnmp to blow up
[11-Jul-2006 21:51:14] <landonf> Is it possible that I botched something during the initial setup?
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[12-Jul-2006 09:38:12] <Duf> good morning
[12-Jul-2006 09:40:30] <Fishstickz> 'mornin
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[12-Jul-2006 09:49:31] <maigaur> ecn
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:11] <maigaur> hello
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:21] <maigaur> can you explain me in detail
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:24] <maigaur> how to
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:27] <maigaur> send a mail
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:33] <maigaur> in case of problem
[12-Jul-2006 09:50:38] <maigaur> i can t do it by myself
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[12-Jul-2006 09:50:47] <maigaur> you were too fast yesterday
[12-Jul-2006 09:51:16] <edahl> maigaur: take a look at the admin guide
[12-Jul-2006 09:51:23] <edahl> it has a section on this
[12-Jul-2006 09:53:11] <edahl> section 7.4
[12-Jul-2006 09:53:23] <edahl> Alerting (email and pager)
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[12-Jul-2006 10:24:13] <maigaur> i have a problem
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:24] <maigaur> in admin
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:29] <maigaur> i changed the password
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:42] <maigaur> i put twice the same password
[12-Jul-2006 10:24:47] <maigaur> but it didn t work
[12-Jul-2006 10:26:46] <maigaur> how can i find my user and password for each user ?
[12-Jul-2006 10:30:57] <edahl> you can manage users under the Users link on the left side of the screen at the bottom
[12-Jul-2006 10:31:11] <edahl> admin is special and must be edited from ZMI
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[12-Jul-2006 10:39:32] <maigaur> ok
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:34] <maigaur> i am afraid
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:43] <maigaur> i will have to reinstall zenoss :/
[12-Jul-2006 10:39:59] <maigaur> can t login now
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[12-Jul-2006 10:47:31] <creiht> edahl_: When receiving traps in zenoss, do I have to have the device in zenoss for it to receive the traps?
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:46] <edahl_> no
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:51] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 10:47:59] <edahl_> but if its not you need to look under /Events to find the event
[12-Jul-2006 10:48:05] <creiht> right
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[12-Jul-2006 11:25:58] <creiht> edahl: Can zenoss receive v2 traps or does it need to be a v1 trap?
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:20] <edahl> yes we can do v2 traps and informs
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:36] <edahl> we haven't tested these much though
[12-Jul-2006 11:26:50] <edahl> they aren't very common
[12-Jul-2006 11:27:25] <creiht> What port does zentrap listen on?
[12-Jul-2006 11:28:54] <creiht> nm... 162... and we have a trap!
[12-Jul-2006 11:29:22] <edahl> cool
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:28] <creiht> edahl: For a single Windows server that I have, I keep getting events saying things like:
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:36] <creiht> Error reading value for "memoryPagesPerSec" on ServerNameHere (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.10.0 is bad)
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:44] <edahl> need to install snmp-informant
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:47] <edahl> to get that
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:54] <creiht> But the performance data is showing up as if it is installed
[12-Jul-2006 11:39:59] <creiht> and I'm pretty sure it is installed
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:13] <edahl> is it just a that value?
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:23] <edahl> ie not cpu and free mem
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:25] <creiht> It's all 3
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:30] <edahl> must not be there
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:34] <creiht> hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:44] <creiht> But the performance graphs show up for the device
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:46] <creiht> with data
[12-Jul-2006 11:40:56] <edahl> wow
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:06] <creiht> yeah
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:27] <edahl> are the events old
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:28] <edahl> ?
[12-Jul-2006 11:41:37] <creiht> I don't think so
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[12-Jul-2006 11:41:46] <creiht> I just cleared them to see if they come back again
[12-Jul-2006 11:42:10] <edahl> good thought
[12-Jul-2006 11:43:21] <creiht> Events are back
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:16] <creiht> edahl: I do keep getting this error in zenperfsnmp.log for the same device:
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86121
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 86121 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 11:50:27] <creiht> I'm not sure if it is related
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:06] <edahl> thats strange
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:39] <edahl> can you look in zope's error log and give us the trace from there?
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:44] <creiht> That's what I thought
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:47] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 11:52:51] <ec1> log/event.log
[12-Jul-2006 11:54:53] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86123
[12-Jul-2006 11:54:53] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 86123 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:35] <edahl> don't think this is related
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:42] <edahl> try reindexing
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:45] <edahl> in zendmd
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:48] <edahl> run
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:55] <edahl> dmd.Devices.reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 11:55:58] <edahl> then commit()
[12-Jul-2006 11:56:19] <edahl> it might take a while if you have a bunch of devices
[12-Jul-2006 11:56:28] <edahl> heading to lunch
[12-Jul-2006 11:59:52] <creiht> wow... That is a cool little tool
[12-Jul-2006 12:03:29] <creiht> edahl: When you get back... I'm still getting the same errors
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:15] <edahl> i'm back
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:20] <edahl> zendmd is nice
[12-Jul-2006 12:22:46] <edahl> you have access to everything in zeo there and of course python
[12-Jul-2006 12:23:13] <creiht> Now if you could integrate it with ipython, it would be super cool
[12-Jul-2006 12:24:16] <edahl> should be easy
[12-Jul-2006 12:24:26] <edahl> look at ZenModel/zendmd.py
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:06] <creiht> heh
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:09] <creiht> yeah that would be easy
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:17] <creiht> hmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:36] <creiht> Could network latency be an issue with the snmp performance issued that I am having?
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:46] <edahl> don't think so
[12-Jul-2006 12:25:55] <creiht> The devices are in the UK
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:31] <creiht> Hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:52] <creiht> I tried recollecting the config
[12-Jul-2006 12:26:57] <creiht> and this error shows up
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:09] <creiht> http://pastebin.ca/86154
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:09] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 86154 (at pastebin.ca)
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:20] <creiht> the collection still completes
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:48] <edahl> ok try rebuliding
[12-Jul-2006 12:27:56] <edahl> dmd.Events.reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:00] <edahl> commit9)
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:04] <edahl> ()
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:16] <creiht> right... I did that just a little bit ago... or do you want me to try that again
[12-Jul-2006 12:28:41] <edahl> Did you do Devices or Events?
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:11] <creiht> oh
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:11] <edahl> on second though its Devices where the error is
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:14] <creiht> Devices
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:30] <creiht> While you were gone I also ran the complete reIndex()
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:35] <edahl> ok
[12-Jul-2006 12:29:53] <edahl> any chance I can take a look at your box i'm stumped
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:03] <creiht> hmmm
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:09] <creiht> It's not on a public ip
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:14] <edahl> k
[12-Jul-2006 12:30:50] <creiht> Now the interesting thing is
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:05] <creiht> The server name that it is showing in the error
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:20] <creiht> Is an older server name
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:26] <creiht> I have renamed the device
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:47] <creiht> Originally I had a server name something similar to:
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:53] <creiht> UK Server1
[12-Jul-2006 12:31:59] <creiht> (note the space)
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:24] <creiht> And the error was:
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:32] <creiht> ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, 'Server1' found
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:37] <creiht> Notice no UK
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:40] <creiht> in the name
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:44] <edahl> y
[12-Jul-2006 12:32:54] <creiht> so I renamed the device to UK_Server1
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:03] <edahl> we have lots of spaces in names at another customer site
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:06] <creiht> Just to see if the space was an issue, and I still have the same problem
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:07] <creiht> ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:27] <edahl> how about deleteing the device?
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:31] <edahl> and readding
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:36] <creiht> I was just going to ask that
[12-Jul-2006 12:33:40] <creiht> I'll try that
[12-Jul-2006 12:43:15] <creiht> edahl: Deleted and added, and the error messages are still there
[12-Jul-2006 12:47:23] <creiht> off to lunch... bbl
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[12-Jul-2006 14:38:29] <creiht> edahl: ok back... Once I have traps coming in... What is the next step needed to generate alerts?
[12-Jul-2006 14:38:50] <ec1> they just need to match alert rules
[12-Jul-2006 14:39:13] <ec1> you can use mappings to clean up the traps and make them better looking events
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[12-Jul-2006 14:43:35] <creiht> ec1: That makes sense
[12-Jul-2006 14:43:50] <ec1> so add a user
[12-Jul-2006 14:44:48] <ec1> add an alerting rule for that user that matches your trap
[12-Jul-2006 14:45:56] <zaf> ok so i'm running Zenoss in the vmware appliance.. but I can't seem to be able to upgrade it. any suggestions? I get a gmake error at "installing zope"
[12-Jul-2006 14:46:54] <creiht> ec1: Is there a way to send the text of the value of the trap trhough the alert?
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:09] <ec1> yes, yes there is
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:49] <ec1> typically your trap has some really useless summary
[12-Jul-2006 14:48:53] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:17] <ec1> like "recevied trap oid 1.2.3.445.65 from FOO"
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:24] <creiht> yup
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:40] <ec1> ok... when looking at the trap event click on the last field of the event (the event count)
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:51] <ec1> this brings up the event details
[12-Jul-2006 14:49:54] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:14] <creiht> I stumbled upon that just a little bit ago
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:25] <creiht> I now wish I had known about it a lot earlier
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:29] <ec1> Erik had to tell me that
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:33] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:37] <creiht> It is very usefull
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:48] <ec1> that's all the "other" data for the trap
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:54] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:50:55] <ec1> some of which may be useful
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:10] <creiht> The part I'm interested in is the data under the Details tab
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:14] <ec1> if not, well, load the mib for this snmp trap and hope for something better
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:18] <ec1> great!
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:32] <ec1> let's say the field is something like "trapDetail"
[12-Jul-2006 14:51:53] <ec1> is the trap comming in as eventClass "unknown"?
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:00] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:11] <ec1> ok, we're going to map it
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:18] <creiht> sounds good
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:24] <ec1> select the event by checking the box next to it
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:31] <ec1> (under the filter column)
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:36] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:52:58] <ec1> select a category for this trap from the menu at the bottom
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:19] <creiht> Does it matter which one?
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:24] <ec1> anything there look good for this trap?
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:29] <ec1> it kinda does
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:37] <ec1> if you want it to go out... it needs to be category
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:42] <ec1> that will raise it's priority
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:52] <creiht> App/Log
[12-Jul-2006 14:53:52] <ec1> which we can force
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:14] <ec1> App/Log just leaves it alone, really, but we can fix that.. ok, App/Log is good
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:15] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:21] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:26] <ec1> press the map button
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:37] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:47] <ec1> so now you're looking at the mapping for this kind of event
[12-Jul-2006 14:54:55] <ec1> select zProperties
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:10] <ec1> You see the zEventAction?
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:11] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:15] <creiht> yes
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:20] <ec1> that means move this event to the history
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:24] <ec1> err... log it
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:28] <ec1> that's what we do in App/Log
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:33] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:55:47] <creiht> change that to (guesing) event?
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:17] <ec1> well, close
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:19] <ec1> "status"
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:26] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:27] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:32] <ec1> which we would get for free in a different category
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:40] <ec1> we can increase the severity, too
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:40] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:43] <ec1> let's raise it to 4
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:44] <creiht> right
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:52] <creiht> done
[12-Jul-2006 14:56:54] <ec1> save
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:00] <ec1> go to Edit
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:13] <ec1> drop down to the transform section
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:28] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:39] <ec1> here's where you can update the summary to come from some other part of the event
[12-Jul-2006 14:57:44] <creiht> ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:08] <ec1> so you put in something like:
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:13] <ec1> evt.summary = evt.trapDetail
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:24] <ec1> where trapDetail comes from that property list you saw before
[12-Jul-2006 14:58:47] <ec1> let me just verify this step before we continue
[12-Jul-2006 14:59:12] <creiht> Well the data I'm looking for isn't in teh Fields tab, but in the Details tab
[12-Jul-2006 14:59:15] <creiht> Will that be a problem?
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:05] <creiht> under details I have something that looks like
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:05] <ec1> nope... that's ok, and a very common case
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:06] <creiht> Field: 1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:16] <ec1> oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:23] <ec1> well, that's trickier
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:24] <creiht> Value: 2006-07-12 13:43:57,588,INFO,[main],[org.jboss.cache.TreeCache],setting cluster properties from xml to: TCP(bind_addr=localhost;loopback=true;start_port=7880):TCPPING(down_thread=true;initial_hosts=localhost[7880];num_initial_members=3;port_range=3;timeou
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:35] <ec1> if you load the mib, you will get a nicer name
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:39] <ec1> you can do this:
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:52] <creiht> Ahhh
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:57] <ec1> evt.sumary = getattr(evt, '1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64', evt.summary)
[12-Jul-2006 15:00:59] <creiht> (It's a fake mib btw)
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:06] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:09] <ec1> fake, how so?
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:17] <creiht> ummm we made it up
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:25] <creiht> It's being sent from log4j
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:31] <ec1> well, so long as it compiles, it's good to go
[12-Jul-2006 15:01:35] <creiht> cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:07] <ec1> btw, in the rule section you can do something like this:
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:15] <ec1> hasattr(evt, '1.3.6.1.4.1.24.12.10.22.64')
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:27] <ec1> to make sure this rule only matches a trap with this detail
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:34] <ec1> but don't do that
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:40] <creiht> gotcha
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:45] <ec1> save
[12-Jul-2006 15:02:57] <creiht> ok
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:06] <ec1> and wait for nicer looking traps
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:14] <ec1> with higher priorities
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:20] <creiht> ok will do
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:24] <ec1> which, is more likely to match your alert rule
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:37] <ec1> and in the mean time, try to load your mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:44] <ec1> zenmib myfakemib.mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:49] <ec1> or maybe
[12-Jul-2006 15:03:54] <ec1> zenmib run myfakemib.mib
[12-Jul-2006 15:05:09] <creiht> ERROR: Failed to load mib: ....
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:08] <ec1> oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:32] <ec1> you should fix that. 8-)
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:37] <creiht> Oh
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:42] <ec1> feels so good to say it the other way around
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:47] <creiht> I need to create a .mib file I guess?
[12-Jul-2006 15:06:48] <creiht> hehe
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:10] <ec1> ya... plenty of examples laying around in $ZENHOME/share
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:31] <creiht> cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:07:44] <creiht> cool... The summary looks good now
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:03] <creiht> You guys rock!
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:06] <creiht> This is really cool
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:15] <ec1> btw, you can "history" and "drop" the event
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:26] <ec1> we have a customer site with over 200 mappings
[12-Jul-2006 15:08:45] <ec1> and they created most of them
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[12-Jul-2006 15:19:51] <Duf> hey when i try to install zenoss, i still get that zlib.so error in my log
[12-Jul-2006 15:19:58] <Duf> even though i have it in the proper directories
[12-Jul-2006 15:21:26] <Duf> i even include the --ignore-zlib option and the same error occurs
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[12-Jul-2006 15:50:48] <ec1> Duf: sorry to hear that... my best guess is that your installation is not using the python you recently built from the tarball from python.org
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:04] <Duf> i included the python folders
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:10] <Duf> in the install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 15:58:58] <ec1> if you feel adventurous, rename everything that starts with python in /usr/bin
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:11] <ec1> that will ensure they aren't used
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:18] <Duf> k
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:26] <ec1> oh, and delete $ZENHOME, which makes it's own link it python
[12-Jul-2006 15:59:53] <Duf> and don't recreate $ZENHOME?
[12-Jul-2006 16:00:09] <ec1> install.sh will recreate it
[12-Jul-2006 16:00:24] <ec1> as long as it has permissions to create the directory
[12-Jul-2006 16:01:56] <Duf> i did that but the same thing happened
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:02] <Duf> here's what i have in my install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:09] <Duf> in the for p loop
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:14] <Duf> i put
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:20] <Duf> for p in /usr/local/bin/python \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:39] <Duf> usr/local/bin/python2.3 \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:45] <Duf> usr/local/bin/python2.4 \
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:49] <Duf> usr/bin/python2.4
[12-Jul-2006 16:02:51] <Duf> usr/bin/python
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:03] <Duf> usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python \
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:12] <Duf> usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python2.4
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[12-Jul-2006 16:03:21] <Duf> do
[12-Jul-2006 16:03:30] <Duf> and the rest of the preconfigured install.sh code
[12-Jul-2006 16:04:46] <ec1> then I don't know
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:22] <Duf> oh i think i did it
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:45] <Duf> i put /usr/bin/Python-2.4.3/python after "for p in"
[12-Jul-2006 16:05:49] <Duf> in the install.sh file
[12-Jul-2006 16:06:06] <Duf> and it successfully configured build/Zope-2.8.7-final/makefile
[12-Jul-2006 16:26:03] <Duf> now the zenbuild.log is showing "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[12-Jul-2006 16:28:26] <zaf> anyone else getting bombarded with the ANNOUNCE message on the mailing list?
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:26] <ec1> sooooo sorry
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:34] <ec1> we shutdown mail servers
[12-Jul-2006 16:33:42] <ec1> somedays it's not worth getting up
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[12-Jul-2006 16:51:29] <zaf> it happens
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[12-Jul-2006 16:55:00] <ecn> all: sorry about the spam-o-matic... we're still trying to figure out the problem, and we've shut down the mailing lists
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[12-Jul-2006 17:40:52] <Spec> what's up with bill's thousands of e-mails?
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[12-Jul-2006 18:29:10] <Insyte> So... email problems?
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[13-Jul-2006 03:08:42] <fdv99> Good day everybody. I have a question: I've downloaded the vmware image for Zenoss (version 0.21.0), Great program, working out of the box. Only the system doesn't have the correct time so i tried to run "date" but i need root privileges for that. Does someone know the password for the system account root? or maybe how i can use "su"?
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[13-Jul-2006 06:26:23] <fdv99> Good day everybody. I have a question: I've downloaded the vmware image for Zenoss (version 0.21.0), Great program, working out of the box. Only the system doesn't have the correct time so i tried to run "date" but i need root privileges for that. Does someone know the password for the system account root? or maybe how i can use "su"?
[13-Jul-2006 06:32:45] <oubiwann> yeah, this is a common question on the mail list
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[13-Jul-2006 06:32:58] <oubiwann> let me take a look...
[13-Jul-2006 06:34:28] <oubiwann> fdv99: yeah, just sudo su - root
[13-Jul-2006 06:34:44] <oubiwann> there is no root password set on the image
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[13-Jul-2006 07:05:08] <fdv99> i'll try.... moment
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[13-Jul-2006 07:07:12] <fdv99> you're right.... "sudo su - root" did the trick..... thanks. i tried it with only the "su" command
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[13-Jul-2006 09:25:16] <[Eric]> hi, I have a question. How can select WMI to scan Windows computers ? I only see SNMP, SSH and portscan when adding device.
[13-Jul-2006 09:25:57] <oubiwann> there's not currently support for WMI
[13-Jul-2006 09:26:41] <[Eric]> ok, so for scanning windows computers, what do I need to activate on it to be able to scan it ?
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:19] <oubiwann> hmm, WMI might actually be supported... I'm looking through this...
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:28] * oubiwann is not a windows guy
[13-Jul-2006 09:27:35] <[Eric]> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 09:29:48] <oubiwann> [Eric]: check this out, it might be helpful
[13-Jul-2006 09:30:19] <oubiwann> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2006/000364.html
[13-Jul-2006 09:30:40] <oubiwann> hmm, I think that's events related, and not general WMI though...
[13-Jul-2006 09:33:38] <[Eric]> i think too. Looking the screenshot on the website of Zenoss I see Windows 2003 server with full inventory, is this done using only snmp ?
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:04] <oubiwann> probably -- you want to use this for detailed windows snmp gathering:
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:16] <oubiwann> http://www.snmp-informant.com
[13-Jul-2006 09:34:16] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[13-Jul-2006 09:37:32] <[Eric]> woo that's not free...
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:00] <[Eric]> I was thinking that the SNMP service that come with Windows XP/2003 will do the job
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:10] <oubiwann> you want free? Use linux!
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:14] <oubiwann> sorry, couldn't resist
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:28] <[Eric]> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 09:38:49] <oubiwann> no, I'm pretty sure that snmp service is limited... MS licensing maybe?
[13-Jul-2006 09:39:16] <[Eric]> maybe
[13-Jul-2006 09:39:33] <[Eric]> I will look on this today
[13-Jul-2006 09:40:55] <oubiwann> I really don't know anything about it -- Erik Dahl and Eric Newton do
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[13-Jul-2006 10:53:36] <Duf> hey now i'm getting a mysql-python-install error
[13-Jul-2006 10:53:52] <Duf> after unpacking MYSQL-python-1.2.0
[13-Jul-2006 10:54:43] <Duf> cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
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[13-Jul-2006 10:55:35] <Duf> can you do an apt-get install for any packages
[13-Jul-2006 10:55:39] <Duf> to fix that
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[13-Jul-2006 10:57:33] <dcushing> I am having a problem installing zenoss on SuSe Enterprise 10 - I get an error when it is trying to build zope
[13-Jul-2006 11:00:36] <Duf> what is the error, dcushing?
[13-Jul-2006 11:00:45] <Duf> is it about zlib.so?
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:09] <Duf> navers
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:22] <Duf> i am not able to ping you
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:31] <Duf> since i am an unregistered user
[13-Jul-2006 11:03:45] <navers> mmm.
[13-Jul-2006 11:04:57] <navers> i'm not really sure why that's happening. i've run through an install on suse (month or so ago) and didn't encounter that
[13-Jul-2006 11:04:59] <dcushing> the problem occurs when it is doing the install, the install errors out with error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix not both
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:49] <Duf> cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:53] <dcushing> If I can figure out how to cut/paste from my VM machine screen to here may be a little more evident
[13-Jul-2006 11:05:53] <Duf> i wonder what that file is
[13-Jul-2006 11:06:58] <navers> you've got mysql-client and -server packages?
[13-Jul-2006 11:07:50] <navers> pretty sure those were the only mysql dependencies
[13-Jul-2006 11:07:52] <Duf> i have the server package
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:08] <dcushing> You need client, server, and devel packages
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:16] <dcushing> changing mode of /home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-scripts/test.py from 644 to 755
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:18] <Duf> can you do an apt-get install?
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:18] <dcushing> printf "Zope 2.8.7-final" >\
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:20] <dcushing> "/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/lib/python/version.txt"
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:22] <dcushing> /usr/bin/python2.4 "/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/setup.py" install \
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[13-Jul-2006 11:08:24] <dcushing> --home="/usr/local/zenoss" --build-base="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4" --build-lib="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-lib" --build-scripts="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-scripts" --build-temp="/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final/build-base/python-2.4/build-temp"
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:26] <dcushing> running install
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:28] <dcushing> error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:30] <dcushing> gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:32] <dcushing> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/zenoss/zenoss-0.21.0/build/Zope-2.8.7-final'
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:34] <dcushing>
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:41] <navers> Duf: you should be able to
[13-Jul-2006 11:08:50] <dcushing> Sorry, that is my log tail
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:21] <Duf> navers: i downloaded the source from dev.mysql.org
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:23] <Duf> version 5.0.22
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:27] <Duf> is that just the server?
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:33] <Duf> or the client and devel, too?
[13-Jul-2006 11:09:37] <Duf> this was last week
[13-Jul-2006 11:10:35] <navers> version 5+ should work
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:39] <Duf> What does mysql-5.0.22.tar.gz consist of?
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:43] <Duf> because that's what i have been using
[13-Jul-2006 11:11:48] <Duf> even when the error occurs
[13-Jul-2006 11:13:31] <Duf> is that just the server?
[13-Jul-2006 11:14:05] <dcushing> I am not sure, I have the binaries as part of my distro
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[13-Jul-2006 11:17:20] <[Latino]> hi all
[13-Jul-2006 11:19:07] <navers> Duf: from www.mysql.com, the mysql-max-5.0.22 tarball should have everything you need
[13-Jul-2006 11:19:37] <navers> i'm not sure what mysql-5.0.22.tar.gz would have in it
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[13-Jul-2006 11:20:05] <Duf> thanks navers
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[13-Jul-2006 11:26:43] <Duf> navers: Is S/390X the SuSE version?
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[13-Jul-2006 11:29:07] <navers> you'll probably want Linux "(x86, glibc-2.2, "standard" is static, gcc)" version
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[13-Jul-2006 11:35:21] <Duf> thanks
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[13-Jul-2006 11:47:42] <creiht> edahl: So bug #176 bit me last night... But I found the changes that you made on the web site and it seems to have fixed the problem
[13-Jul-2006 11:48:12] <creiht> The other weird side effect is that those error tracebacks that we couldn't figure out how to fix have gone away now
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:03] <edahl> oh good I love it when things fix them selves
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:17] <edahl>
[13-Jul-2006 11:49:20] <creiht> hehe
[13-Jul-2006 11:50:51] <[Eric]> now that I see there's more people now :-) I'm still looking the way to use WMI to scan Windows computers, how can I use WMI ?
[13-Jul-2006 11:56:15] <[Eric]> When I add a new deveice I see SSH,portscan and SNMP, here's there something to do to have WMI support ?
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[13-Jul-2006 12:02:14] <creiht> [Eric]: Are you running zenoss on a Linux box or a Windows box?
[13-Jul-2006 12:03:07] <[Eric]> on a Linux, I'm testing it with the VM you have on the download section.
[13-Jul-2006 12:04:07] <creiht> [Eric]: I'm just a another user
But it is my understanding that currently WMI monitoring is only available if you are running zenoss on a Windows box[13-Jul-2006 12:04:30] <creiht> I think they have plans to add wmi monitoring from Linux
[13-Jul-2006 12:04:40] <[Eric]> ok
[13-Jul-2006 12:05:24] <[Eric]> so I will give a try on a windows box
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[13-Jul-2006 13:14:32] <level`> test
[13-Jul-2006 13:15:04] <level`> where can i find python-dev
[13-Jul-2006 13:15:41] <level`> hello
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[13-Jul-2006 14:23:45] <Duf> hey i am having trouble configuring mysql max
[13-Jul-2006 14:23:54] <Duf> i do a ./configure and it ends mysqld
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[13-Jul-2006 14:55:36] <HelloFromCanada> Newbie question > How do I setup a http monitor probe to check for the contents of a web page?
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[13-Jul-2006 16:43:30] <b_52Centos> do you know if fishstickz will be back ?
[13-Jul-2006 16:43:46] <Duf> i am still getting the same problem with -lmysqlclient_r
[13-Jul-2006 16:44:09] <Duf> even though i did a configure while installing the mysql source with the --enable-thread-safe-client argument
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[14-Jul-2006 08:43:23] <Duf> does anyone know anything about -lmysqlclient_r
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[14-Jul-2006 11:06:26] <Duf> hey, to run zenoss, what mysql do i need?
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:31] <Duf> i have the server and the client
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:33] <Duf> but i am missing a piece
[14-Jul-2006 11:06:46] <Duf> since the log says that it cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[14-Jul-2006 11:07:15] <Duf> and where can i download the missing piece?
[14-Jul-2006 11:11:31] <rexy> mysql-devel installed too?
[14-Jul-2006 11:11:49] <rexy> did you find any proper documentation on how to configure it?
[14-Jul-2006 11:12:09] <rexy> trying to set it up as well, but the doc's that came with the package are spares at best
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:39] <Duf> where can you find mysql-devel?
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:43] <Duf> is there a tarball file?
[14-Jul-2006 11:14:58] <Duf> is there a way you can download the mysql-devel kit by itself
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:34] <rexy> what linux distro are you on?
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:41] <Duf> I have SuSE 10.1
[14-Jul-2006 11:15:48] <rexy> apt-get install mysql-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:16:11] <rexy> you'll need apt-get installed for that
[14-Jul-2006 11:16:14] <rexy> otherwise use yast
[14-Jul-2006 11:18:21] <Duf> i have apt-get so i'll do that
[14-Jul-2006 11:18:55] <rexy> i've got it semi working here, fetches info from some machines, but some give weird parse errors
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:11] <Duf> is your zenoss working, though, rexy?
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:16] <Duf> with your mysql-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:20] <rexy> yeah
[14-Jul-2006 11:19:33] <rexy> though atm i'm using the vmware image
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:00] <rexy> at least after i installed that the install script would run ,etc
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:33] <Duf> oh ./install.sh?
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:41] <Duf> first error was a zlib error
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:43] <Duf> which i fixed
[14-Jul-2006 11:20:50] <Duf> now it's -lmysqlclient_r
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:09] <Duf> so it's near the end of the installation before it aborts
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:13] <Duf> so that's at least good
[14-Jul-2006 11:21:19] <Duf> that it's getting near being completely installed
[14-Jul-2006 11:22:45] <rexy> well it looks like a link flag to mysqlclient
[14-Jul-2006 11:23:12] <Duf> that's what i was thinking
[14-Jul-2006 11:25:07] <rexy> does it crap out during the compile? or is it python?
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:08] <Duf> it says "mysql-python-install" error
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:10] <Duf> i tail zenbuild.log
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:18] <Duf> and it says "cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:19] <rexy> oh
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:21] <Duf> i have python 2.4.3
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:24] <rexy> got python-devel?
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:52] <rexy> dunno if that's needed tbh
[14-Jul-2006 11:28:59] <Duf> not sure, can i do an apt-get install for that?
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:03] <rexy> yup
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:11] <Duf> awesome, i'll try install.sh first
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:14] <Duf> and hopefully that will work
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:22] <Duf> if not i will download python-devel
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:56] <rexy> it'll work
[14-Jul-2006 11:29:59] <rexy> runnin suse 10.1
[14-Jul-2006 11:30:01] <rexy> as well
[14-Jul-2006 11:30:04] <rexy> just checked
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:22] <rexy> did you get the binary or source install?
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:38] <Duf> source
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:39] <Duf> for mysql
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <Duf> it works better
[14-Jul-2006 11:31:49] <Duf> i got the mysql-max but that was a piece of garbage
[14-Jul-2006 11:33:32] <rexy> ah
[14-Jul-2006 11:37:56] <rexy> well i'm off, gl
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[14-Jul-2006 12:50:13] <creiht> edahl: I'm trying to set up some thresholds for process monitoring, but I want to only do it for certain device templates
[14-Jul-2006 12:50:36] <creiht> When I edit the perfconf for the template, I end up editing the global config
[14-Jul-2006 12:50:53] <creiht> Is there a way I can make a copy of that config for my template?
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:28] <edahl> you can copy/paste rrdtemplates
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:34] <edahl> just like in the ZMI
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:39] <creiht> hmm
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:45] <creiht> That is what I thought
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:46] <edahl> if you are on a particular process
[14-Jul-2006 12:51:55] <edahl> there is a button to make a local copy
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:02] <edahl> of the template
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:14] <creiht> But I don't se how to do it on the device template level
[14-Jul-2006 12:52:43] <creiht> For example I have created a JBOSS folder under Devices/Server/Linux/Dell
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:06] <creiht> I would like make a copy to use for any device in the JBOSS template
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:09] <edahl> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:12] <edahl> go to /Devices
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:19] <edahl> copy OSProcess
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:29] <creiht> ahhh
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:30] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:34] <edahl> then goto your JBOSS folder and paste it
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:34] <creiht> that makes sense now
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:36] <creiht> right
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:46] <creiht> I didn't see the check boxes when looking at the JBOSS folder
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:53] <creiht> since they were inherited I'm guessing
[14-Jul-2006 12:53:54] <creiht> cool
[14-Jul-2006 12:54:00] <edahl> exactly
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[14-Jul-2006 12:57:08] <creiht> edahl: So I have one more quick question
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:17] <creiht> If I set the Severity to 3
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:22] <creiht> And the Escalate Count to 5
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:34] <creiht> Does that mean that the first event will be of severity 3
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:40] <edahl> y
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:48] <creiht> and then if there are 5 in a row then it will escalate to 4?
[14-Jul-2006 12:57:52] <edahl> y
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:04] <creiht> ok will it keep going to 5 if there are 5 more?
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:48] <edahl> no
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:53] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:54] <creiht> cool
[14-Jul-2006 12:58:57] <creiht> That's perfect
[14-Jul-2006 12:59:00] <creiht> Thanks
[14-Jul-2006 13:00:16] <edahl> no problem
[14-Jul-2006 13:01:19] <creiht> The process monitoring is really helping us out
[14-Jul-2006 13:01:30] <edahl> cool!
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[14-Jul-2006 14:18:42] <creiht> edahl: I set a threshold for over 60 on cpu usage for a process
[14-Jul-2006 14:18:50] <creiht> But I am getting the following events:
[14-Jul-2006 14:19:03] <creiht> cpu_over threshold of 60 exceeded: current value 1183653888.00
[14-Jul-2006 14:19:25] <edahl> hum
[14-Jul-2006 14:20:09] <edahl> let me test it.
[14-Jul-2006 14:20:15] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 14:22:24] <edahl> ok i'm reproducing let me talk to ecn
[14-Jul-2006 14:23:59] <edahl> looks like a bug
[14-Jul-2006 14:24:05] <edahl> we are researching
[14-Jul-2006 14:24:17] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:14] <creiht> edahl: Future enhancement possibility: It would be nice to be able to enable/disable RRD thresholds so that I don't have to delete/re-create the threshold
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:26] <edahl> good one
[14-Jul-2006 14:25:30] <edahl> I will add bug
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:31] <creiht> I also noticed an oddity where the zenprocess.log logs when the service stops, but doesn't log when it starts
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:39] <edahl> #195
[14-Jul-2006 14:26:52] <creiht> cool
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[14-Jul-2006 16:06:52] <spd1snd> im fooling around with a new instance of zenoss and trying to zendisc... it's giving me: "ERROR:zen.Events:(1114, "The table 'status' is full")
[14-Jul-2006 16:06:56] <spd1snd> Error: (1114, "The table 'status' is full")"
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[14-Jul-2006 16:26:39] <edahl> yikes
[14-Jul-2006 16:26:47] <edahl> try stop and start of mysql
[14-Jul-2006 16:26:52] <edahl> as root
[14-Jul-2006 16:27:09] <edahl> do you have lots of events?
[14-Jul-2006 16:27:23] <edahl> in status
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[14-Jul-2006 17:31:19] <creiht> edahl: Any luck figuring out what was causing the bug with the process monitoring?
[14-Jul-2006 17:31:33] <edahl> yes we fixed it I believe
[14-Jul-2006 17:31:46] <edahl> On monday I will try to get 21.1 out
[14-Jul-2006 17:32:03] <edahl> I need to pull changes from the trunk to the branch
[14-Jul-2006 17:32:38] <edahl> the trunk isn't too stable right now so I wouldn't upgrade to that
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:29] <creiht> cool... I'll check back on monday
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:36] <creiht> Thanks for the help
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:49] <edahl> no problem have a good weekend
[14-Jul-2006 17:33:58] <creiht> ya'll too
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[14-Jul-2006 17:50:42] <creiht> edahl: okay... so another small issue
[14-Jul-2006 17:50:56] <creiht> A couple of our servers that we are monitoring
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:14] <creiht> We have SMTP monitoring enabled
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:37] <creiht> The problem is that the connection some how stays open for about an hour before going away
[14-Jul-2006 17:51:52] <creiht> On most of the other servers there is no problem
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:00] <creiht> Any idea of what might cause a problem like that?
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:31] <edahl> not sure what you mean
[14-Jul-2006 17:52:44] <edahl> the connection from zenstatus stays open?
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:04] <creiht> The logs show
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:21] <creiht> imeout waiting for input from monitoring.server.com during server cmd read
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:25] <creiht> And if you do a ps
[14-Jul-2006 17:53:36] <creiht> You see about 60 open connections to sendmail
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:04] <creiht> all from the monitoring server
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:20] <edahl> not sure why
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:31] <creiht> ok
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:34] <edahl> try adding "quit" to the SMTP service
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:37] <creiht> We'll keep poking at it
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:38] <edahl> send string
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:44] <creiht> pl
[14-Jul-2006 17:54:51] <edahl> and add 220 to the expect regex
[14-Jul-2006 17:55:02] <edahl> the test system will send quit
[14-Jul-2006 17:55:10] <edahl> maybe that will make send mail exit properly
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:06] <creiht> If I want to send two strings... wil \n send the return?
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:15] <creiht> so could I set it to something like
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:25] <creiht> MAIL\nQUIT
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:42] <edahl> don't know its what ever the protocol says
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:44] <creiht> We are currently sending it mail so we don't get a log message every minute
[14-Jul-2006 17:56:57] <edahl> i see
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:01] <edahl> maybe that's the problem
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:15] <edahl> I think smtp line termination is \r\n
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:16] <creiht> But it is weird that it doesn't happen on other servers
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:31] <edahl> different versions of sendmail?
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:42] <edahl> maybe postfix would work better
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:44] <creiht> checking
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:46] <creiht> hehe
[14-Jul-2006 17:57:50] <creiht> I wish we used postfix
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:01] <creiht> unfortunately these boxes are maintained by another group
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:38] <creiht> The software tab in zenoss finally becomes very usefull
[14-Jul-2006 17:58:48] <creiht> exact same versions
[14-Jul-2006 18:00:10] <edahl> hum
[14-Jul-2006 18:00:20] <creiht> I'm going to try a couple of experiments
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:07] <edahl> cool
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:31] <edahl> I need to jump
[14-Jul-2006 18:02:42] <edahl> let me know how it goes...
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[14-Jul-2006 18:08:40] <austinnichols102> does zenoss do discovery of non-snmp windows boxen by default?
[14-Jul-2006 18:10:36] <creiht> austinnichols102: It should if you choose to use portscan instead of snmp
[14-Jul-2006 18:11:04] <austinnichols102> tks - trying to make my way through the admin guide but it wasn't completely clear
[14-Jul-2006 18:12:34] <austinnichols102> anywhere else I can read about how to do that?
[14-Jul-2006 18:15:33] <creiht> austinnichols102: Hmmm... I'm not sure... I figure most of it out by either experimentation or by asking here
[14-Jul-2006 18:15:57] <creiht> austinnichols102: You might look through the mailing list archives as a lot of questions get answered there as well
[14-Jul-2006 18:16:14] <austinnichols102> found a forum message that talks about changing zCollectorCollectPlugins
[14-Jul-2006 18:16:26] <austinnichols102> I'm assuming that there's a file floating around somewhere
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:21] <austinnichols102> cool - found it. You add 'portscan.IpServiceMap' into /devices zProperties - zCollectorCollectPlugins
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:33] <creiht> ahh cool
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:40] <creiht> That's new to me... and good to know
[14-Jul-2006 18:20:43] <austinnichols102> but not intuitive
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[15-Jul-2006 22:56:42] <itap> hello, can anyone help on an SSH discovery question?
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[17-Jul-2006 13:28:52] <zaf> Here's a question.. I'm monitoring network interfaces of firewalls, and polling tells Zenoss that the maximum capacity of an interface is 100 megabits. However, I know that I actually have a 3 megabit ISP link. Where would I go to change it so that my alerts for high bandwidth usage show up at 75% of 3 megabits, rather than 75% of 100 megabits?
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[17-Jul-2006 15:34:03] <Duf> hey i configured zenoss and started all the services, is it supposed to automatically pick up the network?
[17-Jul-2006 15:34:52] <creiht> Duf: Not unless you tell it to
[17-Jul-2006 15:37:42] <Duf> how do you do that?
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[17-Jul-2006 15:39:54] <creiht> Duf: You use $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:12] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:18] <creiht> run $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc help
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:25] <creiht> to see available options
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:29] <Duf> thanks
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:35] <creiht> I haven't actually used it myself
[17-Jul-2006 15:40:54] <Duf> i take it disc means discovery
[17-Jul-2006 15:41:28] <creiht> yes
[17-Jul-2006 15:41:54] <amodlin> Duf: if you're doing an autodiscover of your network, you may want to specify the range of IPs to scan if you don't want it to scan 65,000 IPs
[17-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <zaf> 2006-07-17 14:41:15 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Error: Traceback (most recent call last):
[17-Jul-2006 15:42:59] <zaf> Failure: exceptions.AttributeError: Failure instance has no attribute '__len__'
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:06] <zaf> I get that when i start zenperfsnmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:14] <amodlin> for example, $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc --net x.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:23] <creiht> zaf: Have you added any devices yet?
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:28] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:33] <zaf> lots. this happened since i upgraded to .21
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:47] <creiht> hmmm
[17-Jul-2006 15:43:50] <creiht> That is odd
[17-Jul-2006 15:44:12] <creiht> At this point I would poke ecn or edahl... but I haven't seen them all day
[17-Jul-2006 15:44:19] <zaf> yeah..
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:01] <Duf> i did 3 --net arguments
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:05] <Duf> one for 10.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:07] <Duf> one for 172.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:10] <Duf> and one for 192.x.x.x
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:15] <creiht> zaf: Last I heard they were shooting to release a minor update today to fix some bugs
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:26] <zaf> hmm
[17-Jul-2006 15:45:28] <Duf> i did a $ZENHOME/bin/zendisc start --net 10.x.x.x
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[17-Jul-2006 15:46:03] <creiht> Duf: I think you should probably do a run instead of start
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:16] <Duf> much better
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:25] <amodlin> ok, actually what's the net you're trying to do it on? like 10.1.10.0 to 10.1.10.254?
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:35] <amodlin> yeah
[17-Jul-2006 15:46:58] <Duf> 10.0.0.0 to 10.0.255.255
[17-Jul-2006 15:47:04] <amodlin> oh ok
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[17-Jul-2006 15:50:38] <Duf> i ran it
[17-Jul-2006 15:50:53] <Duf> and no snmp found for ip = 127.0.0.2
[17-Jul-2006 15:51:08] <amodlin> is that the IP of the server?
[17-Jul-2006 15:51:37] <amodlin> i think you don't have SNMP set up for the machine running the Zenoss server...to auto discover you need it
[17-Jul-2006 15:54:48] <Duf> then i'll have to manually find the machines?
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:18] <amodlin> no, not necessarily. Have you check out the section in the Zenoss admin guide on Auto-discovery?
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:41] <Duf> not yet
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:50] <Duf> i basically want it to monitor all of the servers in the workgroup
[17-Jul-2006 15:55:54] <amodlin> ok
[17-Jul-2006 15:56:18] <amodlin> well, an autodiscovery would definately be the best thing to do in that situation. is it possible for you to install SNMP on the zenoss server?
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:11] <Duf> yeah could i do an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:25] <amodlin> yep
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:30] <amodlin> apt-get net-snmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:42] <amodlin> err, apt-get install net-snmp
[17-Jul-2006 15:59:50] <Duf> awesome
[17-Jul-2006 16:00:01] <amodlin> and you'll have to configure it to be in the same SNMP community as the rest of your devices, after that you should be good
[17-Jul-2006 16:00:30] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:15] <Duf> it's already the newest version
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:19] <Duf> i did an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 16:01:35] <Duf> how would i configure it to be in the same snmp community?
[17-Jul-2006 16:03:05] <amodlin> to be honest, i really have no idea how to set it up in linux. if you posted to the list i'm sure someone could help you out
[17-Jul-2006 16:04:12] <Duf> awesome
[17-Jul-2006 16:15:25] <creiht> Duf: You edit /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[17-Jul-2006 16:15:52] <creiht> There are a lot of comments in the file that should assist you with setting it up
[17-Jul-2006 16:16:00] <creiht> But there is one line where you set the community
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:22] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:47] <Duf> there are 3 lines
[17-Jul-2006 16:17:53] <Duf> 1: syslocation Server Room
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:02] <Duf> 2: syscontact Sysadmin (root@localhost)
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:12] <Duf> 3: rocommunity public 127.0.0.1
[17-Jul-2006 16:18:54] <creiht> Duf: Hmmm and that is it?
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:21] <creiht> I have something that looks like
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:22] <Duf> the rest of the lines are commented out
[17-Jul-2006 16:20:48] <creiht> com2sec systems POLLER_IP COMMUNITY_NAME
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:05] <creiht> group SOMEGROUPNAME v1 systesm
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:18] <creiht> view systemview included .1 80
[17-Jul-2006 16:21:45] <creiht> access SOMEGROUPNAME "" any noauth exact systemview none none
[17-Jul-2006 16:22:30] <creiht> That's a fairly basic setup that opens everything up for the given COMMUNITY_NAME
[17-Jul-2006 16:22:54] <Duf> so the large spaces are tabs?
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:01] <Duf> and those are all of the lines in the file?
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:27] <creiht> Duf: They are just spacing... I just put arbitrary spaces for reading
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:30] <creiht> and there is much more
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:37] <creiht> let me see if I can find a better example
[17-Jul-2006 16:23:58] <Duf> you could email it to me at welucarell@ysu.edu
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:39] <creiht> Duf: Check out http://www.snmpview.de/snmpd_conf.php
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:39] <adytum-bot> Title: snmpd.conf (at www.snmpview.de)
[17-Jul-2006 16:25:55] <Duf> cool then never mind the email
[17-Jul-2006 16:29:34] <Duf> i use SuSE 10.1
[17-Jul-2006 16:30:09] <Duf> i'm afraid that com2sec may not work with SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:28] <creiht> Duf: Hmmm... I'm not completely familar with SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:36] <creiht> Are you using net-snmp?
[17-Jul-2006 16:32:47] <Duf> yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:00] <creiht> Hmmm... I would think that the configuration would be the same
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:03] <creiht> But who knows
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:31] <Duf> k i'm making a backup copy
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:35] <Duf> and writing up a new one
[17-Jul-2006 16:33:39] <creiht> cool
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:17] <Duf> mynetwork
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:20] <Duf> i'm confused about that
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:29] <Duf> it monitors several networks
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:31] <Duf> 172.25.0.x
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:52] <creiht> mynetwork is just a name
[17-Jul-2006 16:35:57] <creiht> You can name it whatever
[17-Jul-2006 16:36:14] <creiht> and the ip address is the address to accept queries from, so you want that to be the ip of your polling server
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:05] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:16] <Duf> what is a polling server? i'm new to networking, i specialize in java programming fyi
[17-Jul-2006 16:37:57] <creiht> ahh
[17-Jul-2006 16:38:07] <creiht> the polling server is the server you are running zenoss on
[17-Jul-2006 16:44:28] <Duf> k
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[17-Jul-2006 16:50:26] <Duf> what about groups and models?
[17-Jul-2006 16:50:57] <j-ochoa> hello
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:02] <j-ochoa> help me
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:15] <j-ochoa> I install Zenoss in a CentOS 4.3
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:20] <j-ochoa> but have error
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:26] <creiht> Duf: I would copy the MyROGroup
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:36] <j-ochoa> gmake: *** [svn-install] Error 1
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:38] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:47] <Duf> is that automatically recognized as a read-only group?
[17-Jul-2006 16:51:54] <creiht> Duf: and use v1 for sec.model
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:08] <creiht> Duf: Yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:17] <creiht> I think
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:23] <creiht> I'm still a bit new at this as well
[17-Jul-2006 16:52:46] <Duf> and for the read-write host, it can be local
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:03] <Duf> we don't need the v2c and usm stuff, do we?
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:26] <creiht> nope
[17-Jul-2006 16:53:30] <creiht> brb
[17-Jul-2006 16:54:32] <j-ochoa> gmake: *** [svn-install] Error 1
[17-Jul-2006 16:54:36] <j-ochoa> help me
[17-Jul-2006 16:56:17] <Duf> k
[17-Jul-2006 16:58:38] <Duf> is CentOS linux, j-ochoa?
[17-Jul-2006 16:58:56] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:45] <Duf> do you have APT?
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:50] <Duf> where you can do an apt-get install
[17-Jul-2006 16:59:52] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:00] <Duf> you may be missing a package
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:11] <Duf> this happens during ./install.sh? right?
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:42] <j-ochoa> yes
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:45] <Duf> or do you do a svn command from the unix prompt?
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:50] <Duf> i just do ./install.sh
[17-Jul-2006 17:00:54] <Duf> because i run SuSE
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:39] <j-ochoa> yes svn from unix prompt
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:48] <Duf> i've never done it that way
[17-Jul-2006 17:02:50] <Duf> sorry
[17-Jul-2006 17:03:08] <j-ochoa> apt have this package ?
[17-Jul-2006 17:03:36] <amodlin> can you run svn help at prompt?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:05:27] <kaponoob> hello
[18-Jul-2006 09:06:06] <kaponoob> where I can get documentation for zenoss?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:13:08] <gumpa> kaponoob: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/browser/trunk/inst/docs/ZenossAdminGuide.pdf?format=raw pdf of administration guide
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:16] <gumpa> http://www.zenoss.org/download/install.html
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <gumpa> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Install : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:34] <gumpa> http://blueheron.livejournal.com/145996.html
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:34] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 09:13:35] <adytum-bot> Title: blueheron: Zenoss (at blueheron.livejournal.com)
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[18-Jul-2006 09:50:25] <Duf> good morning amodlin
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:29] <Duf> what's up
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:39] <Duf> i edited the snmpd.conf file
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:44] <Duf> but still doesn't work
[18-Jul-2006 09:50:55] <Duf> i think i need the group ip
[18-Jul-2006 09:51:06] <Duf> i'm going to ask someone at work
[18-Jul-2006 09:53:15] <amodlin> hey, good morning
[18-Jul-2006 09:53:28] <amodlin> Duf: that's odd: you still cant perform an autodiscovery?
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[18-Jul-2006 09:59:39] <Duf> i need the ip for the community
[18-Jul-2006 09:59:42] <Duf> but i don't know who has it
[18-Jul-2006 10:02:17] <kaponoob> thanx
[18-Jul-2006 10:07:01] <amodlin> I'm not POSITIVE but I think the IP for the community should be that of the Zenoss server
[18-Jul-2006 10:08:34] <Duf> that's the polling ip
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[18-Jul-2006 10:19:53] <amodlin> hm...
[18-Jul-2006 10:23:34] <amodlin> I'm really not sure...if you'd like the next time edahl or ecn have a moment I can ask them for you
[18-Jul-2006 10:25:06] <Duf> k thanks amodlin
[18-Jul-2006 10:25:19] <amodlin> anytime, sorry for the confusion
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[18-Jul-2006 12:33:37] <[Ericj]> Hi Edahl, any developements on Zenwin docs ?
[18-Jul-2006 12:33:48] <edahl> working on them as we speek
[18-Jul-2006 12:33:52] <edahl> speak
[18-Jul-2006 12:34:57] <edahl> should be up this afternoon
[18-Jul-2006 12:35:25] <[Ericj]> good.
[18-Jul-2006 12:36:52] <[Ericj]> it will be available on the website ?
[18-Jul-2006 12:47:54] <edahl> yep the files are up on SF.net already
[18-Jul-2006 12:48:00] <edahl> if you want to download
[18-Jul-2006 12:48:10] <edahl> no docs yet though
[18-Jul-2006 12:52:13] <[Ericj]> thanks
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[18-Jul-2006 17:49:06] <landonf> er. one can't edit their ticket after creation?
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:56] <landonf> I'd like to attach a patch to http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/198
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:57] <adytum-bot> Title: #198 ([PATCH] Support for user-supplied event database name) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[18-Jul-2006 17:49:57] <landonf> heh
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[18-Jul-2006 17:52:28] <landonf> hrmph.
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[18-Jul-2006 18:07:52] <erg[1]> anyone here used the vmware zenoss image?
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[18-Jul-2006 18:41:02] <erg[1]> no one's here, huh?
[18-Jul-2006 18:42:04] <landonf> I'm here, but I've never used the vmware image
[18-Jul-2006 18:43:36] <emmanuel_gomez> maybe my question is more general: I don't know how to start using Zenoss
[18-Jul-2006 18:44:06] <landonf> It's a little bit rough around the edges in that regard.
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[18-Jul-2006 18:45:05] <emmanuel_gomez> well, is there some straight-forward way to kick off a scan?
[18-Jul-2006 18:45:47] <emmanuel_gomez> actually, is that generally the best way to get started?
[18-Jul-2006 18:46:05] <emmanuel_gomez> or have I totally misunderstood how it's meant to work...?
[18-Jul-2006 18:48:45] <emmanuel_gomez> landonf: any pointers?
[18-Jul-2006 18:49:07] <emmanuel_gomez> I've found hardly any 'Getting Started' docs via Google
[18-Jul-2006 18:50:29] <landonf> Not especially, I'm still in the process of getting started myself.
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:10] <emmanuel_gomez> you have it installed & setup?
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:16] <landonf> Yeah
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:29] <landonf> It's not monitoring anything, though
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:32] <emmanuel_gomez> you've scanned some hosts or devices on your network
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:35] <emmanuel_gomez> oh...
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:42] <landonf> That's what I'm working on right now
[18-Jul-2006 18:51:56] <emmanuel_gomez> have you sorted any of it out yet?
[18-Jul-2006 18:52:20] <emmanuel_gomez> sorry to pester you, but I'm really excited about Zenoss (in concept), I just can't figure out how to get started with it
[18-Jul-2006 18:53:55] <landonf> Not quite, I'm still adding metadata
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:04] <landonf> (locations, groups, manufacturers)
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:10] <landonf> I'll have snmp running on a test system in a bit
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:35] <emmanuel_gomez> so you have to configure the metadata first?
[18-Jul-2006 18:54:59] <landonf> I don't know that you have to, but it seemed like a good place to start
[18-Jul-2006 18:55:33] <emmanuel_gomez> do you know if it's feasible to configure a subset of all the useful metadata, to get started testing?
[18-Jul-2006 18:55:57] <landonf> Looks to be
[18-Jul-2006 18:56:37] <emmanuel_gomez> once you have metadata in there, what next?
[18-Jul-2006 18:57:25] <landonf> I'll try using auto-discovery
[18-Jul-2006 18:57:56] <emmanuel_gomez> do you launch that via the web ui, or command line?
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:13] <landonf> 'zendisc', via the command line.
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:19] <landonf> Running it right now, actually
[18-Jul-2006 18:58:37] <landonf> I configured a network in the web UI, and then: ./bin/zendisc run --net 192.168.1.0
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:15] <emmanuel_gomez> where did you find info on zendisc?
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:24] <landonf> ZenossAdminGuide.pdf
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:36] <emmanuel_gomez> hahahhah RTFM, I suppose
[18-Jul-2006 18:59:55] <emmanuel_gomez> I hate pdf docs, tho... damn adobe reader soaks up memory like it was going out of style
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:20] <landonf> Preview.app is nice, but hey, you need a mac for that :_
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:27] <landonf> WARNING:zen.ZenDisc:no snmp found for ip = 192.168.55.10
[18-Jul-2006 19:00:32] <landonf> Neat-o.
[18-Jul-2006 19:01:01] <landonf> Now I just need snmp to work
[18-Jul-2006 19:01:20] <emmanuel_gomez> at home I use a mac + preview, but here at work.... it's windows
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:09] <landonf> hmm, autodiscovery picked up snmp on my lab machine just fine.
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:26] <emmanuel_gomez> did you setup snmp metadata first?
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:40] <landonf> I didn't add any mibs or anything.
[18-Jul-2006 19:23:55] <emmanuel_gomez> did it find routers & stuff, or just hosts?
[18-Jul-2006 19:24:25] <landonf> Just hosts. My routers aren't listening via snmp.
[18-Jul-2006 19:39:36] <landonf> Anyone know what the difference between DataCollector and SnmpCollector is?
[18-Jul-2006 19:39:44] <landonf> They seem to duplicate snmp code
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[18-Jul-2006 20:01:14] <Mulder> hi, someont I've tried zenwin ?
[18-Jul-2006 20:01:17] <Mulder> hi, someone I've tried zenwin ?
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[18-Jul-2006 20:55:15] <emmanuel_gomez> this thing (zenoss) takes forever to start
[18-Jul-2006 20:55:35] <emmanuel_gomez> this 8 daemon thing is pretty hard on the hardware
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[19-Jul-2006 19:28:16] <landonf> hrm. Totally want SNMPv3
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[19-Jul-2006 21:30:53] <AdamsFung> hi everyone
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[21-Jul-2006 10:22:08] <train`> Hello, I have a problem with zenoss when adding new device
[21-Jul-2006 10:22:40] <train`> if discovery protocol is set to snmp, and snmp port is different from standard 161
[21-Jul-2006 10:22:57] <train`> zenoss can't discover the device
[21-Jul-2006 10:23:35] <train`> running tcpdump on the device, shows that zenoss still attempt to discover on standard 161 port, instead of the defined by me
[21-Jul-2006 10:23:42] <train`> can anyone help?
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[21-Jul-2006 11:14:00] <creiht> edahl: Hey... have you guys made that bugfix release yet?
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:22] <edahl> I will release it today
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:36] <edahl> sorry I got distracted
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:36] <creiht> cool...
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:40] <creiht> No biggie
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:42] <creiht> I did too
[21-Jul-2006 11:14:51] <creiht> Having to swtich hats to Java
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:16] <creiht> I'll probably install it on Monday then
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:28] <edahl> actually its already done for got to post
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-0.21.0.tar.gz
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> hehe
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> cool
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> no my bad that's not it
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <edahl> sorry misread
[21-Jul-2006 11:15:58] <creiht> ahhh
[21-Jul-2006 11:20:21] <edahl> done
[21-Jul-2006 11:20:35] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenoss-0.21.1.tar.gz
[21-Jul-2006 11:21:29] <creiht> edahl: cool thanks
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[21-Jul-2006 11:51:28] <zaf> woohoo
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[21-Jul-2006 11:58:46] <edahl> just simple bug fixes
[21-Jul-2006 12:02:23] <zaf> well i'm about to reinstall so it's good to have
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[22-Jul-2006 04:59:56] <niheconomoum> is anyone using zenoss with an existing zope installation?
[22-Jul-2006 05:00:09] <niheconomoum> or existing zope instances?
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[24-Jul-2006 04:53:31] <giesen> has anyone attempted a gentoo ebuild yet?
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[24-Jul-2006 09:52:28] <maigaur> hello
[24-Jul-2006 09:55:00] <Hatter> hi
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[24-Jul-2006 10:08:32] <maigaur> one question
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:42] <maigaur> how can i send an alarm
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:44] <maigaur> by mail
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:47] <maigaur> by example
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:54] <maigaur> is ping is down on my computer
[24-Jul-2006 10:08:55] <maigaur> ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:15:56] <maigaur> ?
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[24-Jul-2006 10:33:48] <maigaur> someone help ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:35:36] <creiht> maigaur: You add an alerting rule to a user
[24-Jul-2006 10:35:49] <maigaur> yep
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:17] <maigaur> i create a user using the menu on the left
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <maigaur> then i modify his properties
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:33] <maigaur> ?
[24-Jul-2006 10:36:59] <creiht> You click on the Alerting Rules tab
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:23] <creiht> and then type in a name for the rule in the box, and click the Add button
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:34] <creiht> Then click on the rule to edit its properties
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:39] <creiht> And you can enable it
[24-Jul-2006 10:37:52] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 10:39:03] <creiht> The default properties will send you an email on any event that is an Error or higher level
[24-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <maigaur> great
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:32] <maigaur> in alerting rules
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:39] <maigaur> is it sending a mail
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:42] <maigaur> for all devices
[24-Jul-2006 11:14:49] <maigaur> recognized ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:15:17] <edahl> all events of all devices with severity >= Error
[24-Jul-2006 11:16:23] <zaf> i think i may have asked this before, but is there a way to zendisc just a single IP?
[24-Jul-2006 11:21:01] <creiht> zaf: I know you can do it through the UI by adding a device
[24-Jul-2006 11:22:00] <zaf> i think i found my answer. I need to make the subnets first
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:33] <maigaur> is the alert working for all kind of users ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:46] <maigaur> there is an admin account
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:54] <maigaur> then what is the difference
[24-Jul-2006 11:23:59] <edahl> no alert rules are per user
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:01] <maigaur> between the other accounts ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:20] <edahl> admin is top level zope user
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:28] <edahl> you can do ZMI config using it
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:40] <edahl> be careful though
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:42] <edahl>
[24-Jul-2006 11:24:58] <maigaur> in fact
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:03] <maigaur> i want to know
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:05] <maigaur> which users
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:09] <maigaur> can receive mails
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:15] <maigaur> if a service is down
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:37] <edahl> go to ZenUsers
[24-Jul-2006 11:25:44] <edahl> and look at there alerting rules
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:08] <maigaur> manager, zenmonitor and zenuser
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:14] <maigaur> can receive the alerts
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:21] <maigaur> no problem with that ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:38] <edahl> those are roles not users
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:53] <maigaur> i have a user
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:55] <maigaur> maigaur
[24-Jul-2006 11:26:58] <maigaur> zenuser
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:06] <edahl> zenuser is read only
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:06] <maigaur> email and password set
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:11] <maigaur> but
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:18] <edahl> might want to be manager
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:19] <maigaur> i can give him an alert rule
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:28] <zaf> does Manager role have the same level access as Admin?
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:39] <edahl> yes for all zenoss object
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:40] <edahl> s
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:43] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 11:27:57] <edahl> your account should be manager (so you can edit the config)
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:01] <maigaur> edahl, which role do you suggest
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:07] <maigaur> to receive the alerts
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:09] <maigaur> manager ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:14] <edahl> doesn't matter
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:39] <maigaur> ok
[24-Jul-2006 11:28:55] <maigaur> a zenuser will receive his mail
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:06] <maigaur> if I give him the default alert
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:07] <maigaur> but
[24-Jul-2006 11:29:15] <maigaur> what will be written in the mail ?
[24-Jul-2006 11:30:09] <edahl> what ever is in your rules format string
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[24-Jul-2006 12:06:27] <zaf> how come i'm not able to move a device to /Devices/Network/Router/TerminalServer ?
[24-Jul-2006 12:08:07] <edahl> this is a bug
[24-Jul-2006 12:08:37] <edahl> try removing $ZENHOME/Products/ZenModel/TerminalServer.py and restarting zope
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:46] <zaf> and am I right in assuming TerminalServer is for things like serial port servers?
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:51] <edahl> hum that didn't work
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:53] <edahl> yes
[24-Jul-2006 12:09:57] <zaf> thanks
[24-Jul-2006 12:12:21] <edahl> ok make sure you delete the .pyc file too
[24-Jul-2006 12:12:35] <edahl> and delete the reference to it in __init__.py
[24-Jul-2006 12:14:09] * edahl checked in this fix
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[24-Jul-2006 12:16:42] <zaf> that fixed it, thanks
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:21] <creiht> edahl: I have noticed a couple of times now zenstatus seems to just stop polling
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:39] <edahl> how often?
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:58] <edahl> I think I have seen this as well but never any good error
[24-Jul-2006 12:40:58] <creiht> If I look at the logs, I'll see a poll every minute and then it just stops with no errors
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:00] <edahl> message
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <creiht> right
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <edahl> right
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:07] <edahl>
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:12] <creiht> Every couple of days
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:21] <edahl> wow that's more then I have seen
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:32] <edahl> I'm going though that code right now
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:36] <creiht> Last time it happened was Friday evening
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:46] <creiht> And it just now happened again
[24-Jul-2006 12:41:47] <edahl> it will get a big refresh when we add more service checks
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:24] <creiht> It isn't too big of a deal as it sends me a page when it stops, and I can restart it
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:36] <edahl> sure
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:42] <edahl> still quite annoying
[24-Jul-2006 12:42:45] <creiht> yes
[24-Jul-2006 12:50:17] <zaf> how long should it be before graphs start to show up for discovered devices?
[24-Jul-2006 12:54:36] <edahl> 5mins or so
[24-Jul-2006 12:54:53] <zaf> hrm
[24-Jul-2006 12:55:41] <edahl> well it can take configcycle to re-read the config of what to pole
[24-Jul-2006 12:55:52] <edahl> default is 20mins
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:26] <zaf> 2006-07-24 11:54:21 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionRefusedError: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:26] <zaf> ]
[24-Jul-2006 12:58:47] <edahl> your zenperfsnmp.conf has bad login info
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:15] <zaf> ahh
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:19] <zaf> i changed zope to listen on port 80
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:26] <edahl> that would do it
[24-Jul-2006 12:59:30] <zaf>
[24-Jul-2006 13:03:59] <zaf> now i get this once a minute: 2006-07-24 12:01:13 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Devices status is not clearing. Restarting.
[24-Jul-2006 13:07:24] <edahl> means it didn't get through the list of stuff to poll
[24-Jul-2006 13:07:31] <edahl> do you have a lot?
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:24] <zaf> increasing the cycle time to 180 now
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:32] <zaf> i didnt think i had a lot of devices yet, but maybe
[24-Jul-2006 13:08:47] <edahl> we can poll over 400 devices in 60 secs
[24-Jul-2006 13:09:05] <zaf> hmm
[24-Jul-2006 13:09:15] <zaf> maybe since it's running zendisc at the same time
[24-Jul-2006 13:12:02] <zaf> hrm.. yeah, something's wrong
[24-Jul-2006 13:12:15] <zaf> set to 3 minutes and only have 33 devices
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[24-Jul-2006 13:17:16] <edahl> stop zenperfsnmp
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:23] <edahl> run in the forground
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:29] <edahl> zenperfsnmp run -v10
[24-Jul-2006 13:17:33] <edahl> with debuging on
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/univ.py", line 143, in _berEncode
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> raise error.BadArgumentError('Short Object ID for %s' % \
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:11] <zaf> pysnmp.asn1.encoding.ber.error.BadArgumentError: Short Object ID for ObjectName
[24-Jul-2006 13:18:42] <edahl> yuck
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[24-Jul-2006 13:19:56] <zaf> so i need to find out which device has a bad short object id
[24-Jul-2006 13:21:59] <edahl> have you modified the perf templates?
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:06] <edahl> we looked at that part of the code
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:22] <edahl> its checking to make sure an oid has more than 2 characters
[24-Jul-2006 13:22:49] <zaf> yeah, i have
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:10] <zaf> there we go
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:33] <zaf> i guess it was a bad idea to add other templates to the Device RRDTemplate
[24-Jul-2006 13:25:57] <edahl> its normal to do that
[24-Jul-2006 13:26:03] <edahl> just need to be careful
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[24-Jul-2006 14:11:55] <zaf> if a device is in /Devices/Network/Router/Firewall, it should inherit the RRDTemplates of that path, right?
[24-Jul-2006 14:19:30] <edahl> y
[24-Jul-2006 14:20:06] <zaf> and that updates on a Config Cycle?
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[24-Jul-2006 14:30:02] <edahl> correct
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:08] <edahl> or restart
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:21] <edahl> you can test against a single device
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:22] <edahl> with
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:32] <edahl> zenperfsnmp run -d DEVICE -v10
[24-Jul-2006 14:30:46] * edahl needs full device name that's in zenoss
[24-Jul-2006 14:31:55] <zaf> nice
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:25] <F1re4fect> Is the root password for the VMWare download available?
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:40] <ecn> sudo su - # as zenoss
[24-Jul-2006 14:36:43] <ecn> FAQ
[24-Jul-2006 14:37:43] <F1re4fect> Where's the FAQ?
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:13] <edahl> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:13] <adytum-bot> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:31] <F1re4fect> Cool, thanks
[24-Jul-2006 14:38:37] <edahl> no worries
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[24-Jul-2006 14:49:08] <zaf> anybody have any luck with reading the interfaces on Dell PowerConnect switches?
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:32] <edahl> do you get a trace?
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:38] <edahl> try
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:43] <zaf> 2006-07-24 13:46:02 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: Error reading value for "Ethernet Interface" on 10.20.8.5 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.1 is bad)
[24-Jul-2006 14:49:46] <zaf> i get that in the logs
[24-Jul-2006 14:50:34] <edahl> hum no packet stats on it maybe?
[24-Jul-2006 14:50:56] <zaf> maybe.. some of the interfaces seem to work
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[25-Jul-2006 09:19:04] <maigaur> hello
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[25-Jul-2006 09:47:03] <maigaur> hello
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:15] <edahl> hey
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:26] <maigaur> edahl, I have almost finished
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:33] <maigaur> my zenoss configuration
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:38] <edahl> cool
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:45] <maigaur> now i would like to know
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:52] <maigaur> how to send alerts
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:56] <maigaur> only for persons
[25-Jul-2006 09:47:59] <maigaur> sorry
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:04] <maigaur> for computers located under
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:32] <maigaur> i would also like to be informed about the wan access
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:44] <maigaur> how to receive alerts
[25-Jul-2006 09:48:58] <maigaur> when free space disc is under 10%
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:12] <maigaur> CPU is above 85%
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:18] <maigaur> how to monitor
[25-Jul-2006 09:49:26] <maigaur> a VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 09:50:06] <edahl> thresholds are configured in RRDTemplates (under tab PerfConfig)
[25-Jul-2006 09:50:29] <edahl> there should be examples for CPU and disc space (filesystem space)
[25-Jul-2006 09:51:00] * edahl set them to severity Error or Critical
[25-Jul-2006 09:51:22] <edahl> and the default paging rule will send hte alerts
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[25-Jul-2006 09:57:14] <maigaur> zenoss is also often slow
[25-Jul-2006 09:57:22] <maigaur> it is strange, it wasn t berfore
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[25-Jul-2006 11:51:10] <creiht> edahl: I got an alert again last night that zenstatus stopped again, and then it magically began working again about 15 minutes later
[25-Jul-2006 11:51:38] <edahl> maybe backup delayed heartbeat?
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[25-Jul-2006 12:14:48] <maigaur> edahl ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:14:55] <edahl> y
[25-Jul-2006 12:15:26] <maigaur> where can i find threshold ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:16:12] <edahl> in rrdtemplate
[25-Jul-2006 12:16:20] <edahl> under /Devices PerfConfig tab
[25-Jul-2006 12:17:46] <maigaur> ok
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:01] <maigaur> i found, then click on local copy
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:04] <maigaur> in fact
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:08] <maigaur> the alertts
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:10] <maigaur> are defined
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:14] <maigaur> by thresholds
[25-Jul-2006 12:18:18] <maigaur> and graphs
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:03] <maigaur> is it possible to define other types of alerts on zenoss
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:16] <maigaur> such as monitoring WAN
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:20] <maigaur> VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 12:19:27] <maigaur> space disc lowx
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[25-Jul-2006 12:19:59] <maigaur> ecn can u help me ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:20:47] <ecn> erik (edahl) will be back in a bit
[25-Jul-2006 12:21:45] <maigaur> k
[25-Jul-2006 12:21:55] <maigaur> i need to see
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:02] <maigaur> if my antivirus is running
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:09] <maigaur> currently i am using host monitor
[25-Jul-2006 12:22:24] <maigaur> is it possible to do the same things with Zenoss ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:25:38] <maigaur> ecn, do you know how i can monitor only some PCs, not all as it is set by the default rule
[25-Jul-2006 12:25:40] <maigaur> ?
[25-Jul-2006 12:28:11] <maigaur> is it working if I enter
[25-Jul-2006 12:28:11] <maigaur> DeviceGroups = /Server/Windows
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[25-Jul-2006 12:38:11] <edahl> maigaur: i'm back had client issue
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> [zenoss@zenoss ~]$ zenperfsnmp run
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> Unhandled error in Deferred:
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> Traceback (most recent call last):
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/web/xmlrpc.py", line 262, in handleResponse
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:00] <maigaur> self.factory.parseResponse(contents)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:01] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/web/xmlrpc.py", line 293, in parseResponse
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:03] <maigaur> self.deferred.callback(response[0][0])
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:05] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 229, in callback
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:07] <maigaur> self._startRunCallbacks(result)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:09] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 294, in _startRunCallbacks
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:11] <maigaur> self._runCallbacks()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:13] <maigaur> --- <exception caught here> ---
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:15] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twisted/internet/defer.py", line 307, in _runCallbacks
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:17] <maigaur> self.result = callback(self.result, *args, **kw)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:19] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 307, in setUnresponsiveDevices
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:21] <maigaur> self.readDevices()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:23] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 329, in readDevices
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:25] <maigaur> self.startReadDevice(self.queryWorkList.pop())
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:29] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 355, in startReadDevice
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:31] <maigaur> d = chain.run()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:33] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Chain.py", line 31, in run
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:35] <maigaur> self.next()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:37] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/Chain.py", line 38, in next
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:39] <maigaur> self.callable(next).addCallbacks(self.success, self.failure)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:41] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py", line 353, in getLater
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:43] <maigaur> return proxy.get(oids, proxy.timeout, proxy.tries)
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:45] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/twistedsnmp/v3/agentproxy.py", line 82, in get
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:47] <maigaur> self.send(request.encode())
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:49] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:51] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:53] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:55] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:40:59] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/pysnmp/asn1/encoding/ber/base.py", line 254, in berEncode
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:01] <maigaur> result = result + self[key].encode()
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:03] <maigaur> File "/usr/local/ze
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:05] <maigaur> i have the following errors on zenoss :/
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:29] <edahl> can you email me the trace can't really read that
[25-Jul-2006 12:41:36] <edahl> edahl at zenoss dot com
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:22] <maigaur> it is too bad
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:28] <maigaur> it was working
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:30] <maigaur> can u tell me
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:32] <maigaur> also
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:40] <maigaur> how i can add the monitoring
[25-Jul-2006 12:42:44] <maigaur> of for example
[25-Jul-2006 12:43:05] <maigaur> a VPN access
[25-Jul-2006 12:43:10] <maigaur> or my antivirus is running
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[25-Jul-2006 12:55:52] <edahl> don't really understand the question is antivirus on windows / linux can it be monitored as a service or process...
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[25-Jul-2006 13:15:59] <zaf> if i wanted to create an RRDDataSource for tcpActiveOpens, how would I find the OID for that?
[25-Jul-2006 13:20:02] <ecn> snmpwalk -On -v 1 -c public localhost TCP-MIB::tcpActiveOpens.0
[25-Jul-2006 13:20:23] <ecn> clue: "-On"
[25-Jul-2006 13:22:24] <zaf> thanks
[25-Jul-2006 13:53:26] <korozion> how do I restart a running instance of zenoss?
[25-Jul-2006 13:53:33] <korozion> just restart zope?
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[25-Jul-2006 13:58:14] <korozion> nevermind, I'm retarded
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[25-Jul-2006 14:11:44] <landonf> Is it possible to use perfmon to monitor non-SNMP sources?
[25-Jul-2006 14:11:50] <landonf> eg, run a command line tool?
[25-Jul-2006 14:12:04] <landonf> Our game servers expose an XML-RPC interface for getting load statistics, so I'd like to plug into that
[25-Jul-2006 14:17:05] <creiht> landonf: I don't think there is specifically that capability at this moment as I have asked for very similar functionality
[25-Jul-2006 14:17:16] <creiht> Now that said there are some ways you could work around it
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:28] <creiht> You could send snmp traps to zenoss to notify of specific events
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:45] <creiht> You can also send events to zenoss through xmlrpc
[25-Jul-2006 14:18:57] <creiht> Though this is only for events, and will not show you performance graphs
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:03] <landonf> Yeah, I was thinking about doing that to trigger events.
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:08] <edahl> landonf: creiht is right
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:24] <edahl> we are going to add an xml-rpc perf interface at some point
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:31] <landonf> I've got some engineering resources to spare on the problem. If we added support for arbitrary commands, would that be accepted?
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:39] <edahl> I'm working on integration of nagios stile plugins right now
[25-Jul-2006 14:22:46] <edahl> that might also work
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:15] <edahl> I think that is basically what I'm doing with nagios plugins
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:20] <edahl> input is command line
[25-Jul-2006 14:23:29] <edahl> output is first line of stdout
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:09] <edahl> http://nagiosplug.sourceforge.net/developer-guidelines.html
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:09] <landonf> I was looking at your changeset there. Really 'arbitrary commands' is a duplication of the nagios plugin support.
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:10] <edahl> its a little gross
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:10] <edahl> right
[25-Jul-2006 14:24:12] <edahl> would this work for you?
[25-Jul-2006 14:25:54] <landonf> Hmm, yeah, we could implement a simple xml-rpc client as a "nagios" plugin.
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:19] <landonf> Alternatively we could take a look at the generic XML-RPC support, as just about everything we do is either available via SNMP or XML-RPC.
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:43] <edahl> if you can do it we will put it in
[25-Jul-2006 14:26:45] <edahl>
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[25-Jul-2006 14:27:17] <landonf> On that note, any comments on #199?
[25-Jul-2006 14:27:56] <edahl> it will be in 0.22
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:02] <edahl> just haven't gotten to it
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:17] <edahl> shooting for monday release which might slip a bit
[25-Jul-2006 14:28:36] <landonf> Neat! Thanks
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:17] <edahl> can you fill out the contrib form?
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <edahl> http://www.zenoss.org/participate/contribute.html
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss : Contribute : Open Source Network & Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.org)
[25-Jul-2006 14:29:35] <edahl> lawyer stuff
[25-Jul-2006 14:32:18] <landonf> Not too unusual. Just submitted it.
[25-Jul-2006 14:32:31] <edahl> great
[25-Jul-2006 14:33:25] <landonf> I have to say that I'm very excited to see something available as well thought out as Zenoss. It really fills an important niche.
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[25-Jul-2006 14:34:39] <landonf> Hey jon
[25-Jul-2006 14:34:49] <leplast> Hey
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[25-Jul-2006 14:35:42] <landonf> edahl: Jonathan is looking at the generic XML-RPC client work; mind if he bothers you with some questions?
[25-Jul-2006 14:35:58] <edahl> no problem
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:15] <leplast> Where do you think this should live in the interface?
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:24] <leplast> Quite a few tabs already and trying to avoid another
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:45] <edahl> hum good poing
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:46] <edahl> t
[25-Jul-2006 14:36:52] <leplast> We would mainly be interested in basically using it as another Perf source I think but I don't want to limit the usefulness elsewhere
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:10] <edahl> hum
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:29] <edahl> i'm adding a nagios tab right now
[25-Jul-2006 14:38:40] <edahl> to deviceclass and device
[25-Jul-2006 14:39:04] <edahl> we need second tier of tabs
[25-Jul-2006 14:41:57] <landonf> Does it need to be a seperate tab from perfconf? Or could RRDDataSources just be expanded?
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:09] <landonf> OID | XML-RPC | ... ?
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:32] <edahl> sure if that works for your setup
[25-Jul-2006 14:42:50] <edahl> do we expect one xml-rpc call per data point?
[25-Jul-2006 14:43:25] <edahl> just wondering are you polling a custom app?
[25-Jul-2006 14:44:16] <landonf> Yeah, we're polling our game servers (www.puzzlepirates.com && www.banghowdy.com)
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[25-Jul-2006 15:07:19] <edahl> cool
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[25-Jul-2006 15:14:35] <deezthugs> i just got zenoss up and running in our testbed. I was wondering where all of the device data is stored? I only see an "events" database in mysql
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[25-Jul-2006 15:15:44] <edahl> in zeo
[25-Jul-2006 15:15:48] <edahl> zope object db
[25-Jul-2006 15:15:54] <deezthugs> ah ok
[25-Jul-2006 15:16:15] <deezthugs> i am a python developer just never used zope
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[25-Jul-2006 15:25:32] <edahl> cool
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[25-Jul-2006 15:29:51] <deezthugs> I was wondering how I could use the resulting network and device database created by zenoss as raw data for a Django application. Would I want to use the ZCatalog interface to the zope data?
[25-Jul-2006 15:29:53] <gravitron> hi, I've just downloaded the virtual appliance that was posted to VMTN, and I'm curious what the root password is. I've not found it in any of the provided documentation
[25-Jul-2006 15:30:46] <ecn> it's now an FAQ:
[25-Jul-2006 15:30:51] <ecn> sudo su - # as zenoss
[25-Jul-2006 15:31:47] <gravitron> ah
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[25-Jul-2006 15:33:46] <ecn> 8-)
[25-Jul-2006 15:33:51] <creiht> laughs
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:16] <ecn> it took me a couple of minutes to figure out (the sudo thing)
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:32] <edahl> dezzthugs: you can open a connection to the zeo database from your python code
[25-Jul-2006 15:34:42] <edahl> zendmd
[25-Jul-2006 15:35:03] <edahl> is a program that will let you navigate zeo at python prompt
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[25-Jul-2006 15:40:19] <deezthugs> ahh cool
[25-Jul-2006 15:40:22] <deezthugs> thanks
[25-Jul-2006 15:40:51] <edahl> are you going to write the new zenoss front end in djano?
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:19] <deezthugs> heheh
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:34] <deezthugs> i think the zenoss front end looks good
[25-Jul-2006 15:45:43] <deezthugs> we could use it here for a lot by itself
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:01] <deezthugs> i think we need to use the data generated by it in other django apps
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:10] <edahl> got it
[25-Jul-2006 15:46:35] <deezthugs> there are many legacy perl apps here that use a mysql db with devices/nets/users/ etc
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[25-Jul-2006 15:46:55] <deezthugs> i was hiope zenoss kept it all in mysql
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:41] <edahl> no but you can also get stuff through xml-rpc
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:45] <edahl> from zope
[25-Jul-2006 15:47:47] <zaf> ok i'm stumped. I'm trying to add tcpActiveOpens as a graph to my firewall devices. that object isn't tied to a particular interface, so i'm having a hard time finding out where it goes when i create it
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:11] * edahl put it in your Device template
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:20] <edahl> its like cpu
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:22] <edahl> I think
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:27] <zaf> ah
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:44] <edahl> one per device correct?
[25-Jul-2006 15:48:49] <edahl> ends with .0
[25-Jul-2006 15:49:06] <zaf> right
[25-Jul-2006 15:49:25] <deezthugs> that sounds like a possibility
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[25-Jul-2006 15:58:42] <zaf> where will the graph show up if it's not on an interface?
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[25-Jul-2006 15:58:55] <edahl> "Perf" tab on device
[25-Jul-2006 15:59:08] <edahl> you need to add a graph for your data as well though
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[25-Jul-2006 16:18:20] <zaf> would the type be guage?
[25-Jul-2006 16:18:28] <zaf> er, gauge
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:33] <edahl> here is another very handy command
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:34] <edahl> snmptranslate -Td TCP-MIB::tcpActiveOpens
[25-Jul-2006 16:19:41] <edahl> its a counter
[25-Jul-2006 16:20:13] <zaf> does counter mean that it only increases?
[25-Jul-2006 16:20:48] <zaf> ah, informative
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:11] <edahl> yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:21] <edahl> counter always get bigger
[25-Jul-2006 16:21:55] <ecn> until it doens't: they wrap
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[25-Jul-2006 16:45:57] <gravitron> how does one add a MIB?
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[25-Jul-2006 16:52:53] <zaf> can numeric values in custom properties be used for thresholds?
[25-Jul-2006 16:53:39] <zaf> I want to be able to tell if an interface is using 75% of its ISP link speed, not just its ethernet link
[25-Jul-2006 16:53:52] <zaf> gravitron, from the command line, zenmib run <mibfile>
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:30] <gravitron> ah ok
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:43] <gravitron> question, if you have 1+ years of rrd data in cacti, can you import it into zenoss?
[25-Jul-2006 16:56:50] <gravitron> same with any nagios configs?
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:09] <zaf> not that i know of
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:12] <gravitron> hrm
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:21] <gravitron> any possibility of a new feature?
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:50] <zaf> not that i know of
[25-Jul-2006 16:57:55] <gravitron> doh
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:26] <edahl> zaf: yes you can put a number in the threshold just replace the here.speed
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:32] <edahl> no on nagios imports
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:47] <edahl> at this point
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:57] <zaf> edahl, i can't do it by putting the name of the custom variable instead?
[25-Jul-2006 16:58:59] <edahl> (we don't event support the plugins yet)
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:07] <edahl> yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:12] <edahl> zaf: yes
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:26] <edahl> address the variable like
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:41] <edahl> hum wait
[25-Jul-2006 16:59:54] <edahl> custom var is per device not interface will that work?
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:01] <zaf> i tried just the plane cXxx name, but that didn't work
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:07] <zaf> per device works for me
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:20] <zaf> as long as it will work in the interface thresholds
[25-Jul-2006 17:00:30] <edahl> ok in threshold do here.cXxx instead of here.speed
[25-Jul-2006 17:02:49] <zaf> works! woohoo!
[25-Jul-2006 17:03:04] <edahl> cool
[25-Jul-2006 17:06:33] <gravitron> is there a command line option for zenmib that will dump more debugging?
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[25-Jul-2006 17:06:39] <gravitron> I've got a MIB that isnt importing
[25-Jul-2006 17:11:32] <ecn> on the branch, there is
[25-Jul-2006 17:11:37] <ecn> ooops... on the trunk, that is
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[25-Jul-2006 17:12:33] <gravitron> maybe you can help
[25-Jul-2006 17:12:50] <gravitron> I'm trying to import the SNMP-Informant MIB which requires the WTCS MIB
[25-Jul-2006 17:13:20] <gravitron> INFORMANT doesnt import anything, and WTCS imports 2 nodes, but nothing else
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[25-Jul-2006 17:17:12] <gravitron> dcx
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:16] <_dc_> hi
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:21] <gravitron> hooked eh
[25-Jul-2006 17:17:26] <_dc_> still d/ling
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[25-Jul-2006 17:20:10] <gravitron> ok time to go home
[25-Jul-2006 17:28:26] * dc is away. Automatically set away [SZ on ]
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[25-Jul-2006 17:42:36] <gumpa> gravitron: try pasting the WTCS file to the top of the SNMP-Informant file
[25-Jul-2006 17:43:30] <gumpa> that worked for me
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[25-Jul-2006 21:28:29] <ngugi> hi
[25-Jul-2006 21:28:39] <ngugi> anyone home ?
[25-Jul-2006 21:28:54] <ngugi> need some help with zenoss install on fedora 5
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[26-Jul-2006 09:19:13] <maigaur> hello help
[26-Jul-2006 09:48:44] <amodlin> hello
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[26-Jul-2006 09:50:51] <amodlin> maigaur: what's the problem? maybe I can help
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:01] <maigaur> hello amodlin
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:08] <amodlin> hello
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:22] <maigaur> do you know if it is prossible to monitor processes with zenoss ?
[26-Jul-2006 09:51:33] <maigaur> or services
[26-Jul-2006 09:52:02] <amodlin> yes zenoss can monitor processes and services
[26-Jul-2006 09:54:43] <maigaur> under ms windows ?
[26-Jul-2006 09:55:23] <amodlin> yep, you can monitor then using zenwin
[26-Jul-2006 09:55:30] <amodlin> them*
[26-Jul-2006 09:58:22] <maigaur> how can i use that N
[26-Jul-2006 09:58:23] <maigaur> ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:02] <amodlin> do you already have zenoss installed?
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:06] <maigaur> yep
[26-Jul-2006 10:01:45] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:12] <amodlin> you need to download Zenwin onto your windows machine and configure it...
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:14] <amodlin> let me find you a link
[26-Jul-2006 10:02:16] <maigaur> k
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[26-Jul-2006 10:02:50] <amodlin> which version of zenoss are you running?
[26-Jul-2006 10:03:41] <maigaur> vmware version
[26-Jul-2006 10:03:51] <maigaur> under a suse box
[26-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:05:01] <amodlin> go ahead and download: http://dev.zenoss.org/downloads/zenwin-0.21.0.zip
[26-Jul-2006 10:05:02] <amodlin> check out the readme in there and if you have any questions or problems just let me know
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:13] <maigaur> i can t download
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:15] <maigaur> pywin
[26-Jul-2006 10:20:20] <maigaur> the link is broken
[26-Jul-2006 10:21:00] <amodlin> ok let me find you a link to pywin32
[26-Jul-2006 10:24:28] <amodlin> oh sorry the readme is a typo
[26-Jul-2006 10:24:54] <amodlin> try http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32
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[26-Jul-2006 10:29:02] <maigaur> not working :/
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:46] <amodlin> you cant get to the sourceforge site?
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:52] <maigaur> nop
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:54] <maigaur>
[26-Jul-2006 10:29:57] <amodlin> hmmmm wierd
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:02] <maigaur> is it working
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:07] <maigaur> from you office ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:11] <amodlin> yes
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:18] <amodlin> actually it may have just gone done
[26-Jul-2006 10:30:20] <amodlin> let me check
[26-Jul-2006 10:31:16] <maigaur> l
[26-Jul-2006 10:31:17] <maigaur> k
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:12] <amodlin> hmm yeah it does seem to be down at the moment
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:22] <amodlin> actually it just loaded
[26-Jul-2006 10:32:47] <amodlin> which version of python are you using?
[26-Jul-2006 10:34:51] <amodlin> this link should be working, just download pywin32 for whatever vers of python you are using
[26-Jul-2006 10:35:17] <amodlin> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=78018&package_id=79063&release_id=432365
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:13] <maigaur> not working
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:19] <maigaur> can u send me by mail
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:22] <maigaur> please
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <amodlin> sure
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:33] <amodlin> what's your email
[26-Jul-2006 10:36:56] <amodlin> and what version of python are you running, so i can get you the right one
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:36] <maigaur> aurel102001@hotmail.com
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:44] <maigaur> python 2.4
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:50] <amodlin> ok
[26-Jul-2006 10:37:51] <amodlin> will do
[26-Jul-2006 10:41:17] <amodlin> Ok, check your inbox :-)
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[26-Jul-2006 10:48:45] <maigaur> arf
[26-Jul-2006 10:48:53] <maigaur> seems i didn"t receive it
[26-Jul-2006 10:50:48] <maigaur> will try tomorrow
[26-Jul-2006 10:50:55] <maigaur> can you send it back please
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:03] <maigaur> aurel102001@hotmail.com
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:09] <maigaur> maignan1@et.esiea-ouest.fr
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:13] <amodlin> it is AUREL102001@hotmail.com right?
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:15] <amodlin> with an L
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:18] <maigaur> yep
[26-Jul-2006 10:51:23] <amodlin> ok, sure thing
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <amodlin> I wonder, maybe hotmail filters out .exe
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:36] <maigaur> :/
[26-Jul-2006 10:52:45] <maigaur> can you zip it please ?
[26-Jul-2006 10:53:30] <amodlin> I'll see what I can do...I'm on a Mac
[26-Jul-2006 11:01:01] <amodlin> maigaur: ok I'm sending you a zip of it now
[26-Jul-2006 11:26:14] <maigaur> good
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[26-Jul-2006 11:53:36] <amodlin> maigaur: did you ever get the email?
[26-Jul-2006 12:22:07] <creiht> doh.... Where's edahl when you need him
[26-Jul-2006 12:22:55] <creiht> Has anyone else had problems with zenstatus hanging, and not completing?
[26-Jul-2006 12:28:25] <Aziraphale> only zenstatus problem right now is that it insists on testing http even though it's turned off...
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:17] <creiht> Aziraphale: All of a sudden zenstatus is hanging for me
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:27] <creiht> In my logs I see something like
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:22:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 2.02 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:23:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 2.01 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:37] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:41:38 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 1046.02 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:29:38] <creiht> 2006-07-26 10:59:14 INFO zen.ZenStatus: tested 150 in 1056.26 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:30:05] <creiht> I'm not sure what would cause it to jump from 2 seconds to 1046 seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:30:29] <Aziraphale> sounds lika a time-out somewhere...
[26-Jul-2006 12:31:03] <zaf> that is a lot of seconds
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:08] <Aziraphale> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/210
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:08] <adytum-bot> Title: #210 (log time to run status monitors) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:11] <Aziraphale> might be that
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:28] <Aziraphale> oh, log, not long. D'oh
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:33] <creiht> hehe
[26-Jul-2006 12:32:54] <creiht> If i manually run it like zenstatus run -v1
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:04] <creiht> It runs through a bunch of stuff
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:09] <creiht> And then just sits there
[26-Jul-2006 12:33:24] <creiht> I don't see any errors
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:09] <Aziraphale> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/1951 <-- maybe that broke something?
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:09] <adytum-bot> Title: [1951] - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[26-Jul-2006 12:34:31] <creiht> Weird... now it seems to be working
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:04] <creiht> Or maybe that fixes it
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:21] <creiht> I'm not running trunk
[26-Jul-2006 12:35:53] <Aziraphale> ah ok, yeah could be
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[26-Jul-2006 18:57:44] <giesen> I keep getting zExceptions.BadRequest: The id "dmd" is invalid - it is already in use.
[26-Jul-2006 18:57:50] <giesen> when I try to install
[26-Jul-2006 18:57:53] <giesen> can anyone help me out with this?
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[26-Jul-2006 23:29:55] <giesen> anyone around?
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[27-Jul-2006 08:18:55] <gravitron> does zenmib support the 'FROM' syntax in MIBS?
[27-Jul-2006 08:19:21] <gravitron> I've got VMWare MIBs that have references to a ROOT VMWare MIB (which I've already imported)
[27-Jul-2006 08:19:44] <gravitron> and it will import the mib, but it has 0 contents!
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[27-Jul-2006 09:22:40] <maigaur> hello help
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[27-Jul-2006 09:53:17] <maigaur> hello
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[27-Jul-2006 10:40:01] <maigaur> hello help
[27-Jul-2006 10:41:55] <gumpa-away> maigaur: try just asking the question
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:03] <maigaur> ok
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:13] <maigaur> i would like to monitor
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:17] <maigaur> services under zenoss
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:24] <maigaur> but don t want to use zenwin
[27-Jul-2006 10:42:35] <maigaur> do you know any way to do it ?
[27-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <gumpa-away> is this of help? http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToSendEvent
[27-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <adytum-bot> Title: HowToSendEvent - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[27-Jul-2006 10:44:24] <gumpa> ping gravitron
[27-Jul-2006 10:45:02] <gumpa> gravitron: did you get the SNMP-informant mib loaded?
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[27-Jul-2006 10:47:42] <maigaur> snmp-informant
[27-Jul-2006 10:47:44] <maigaur> loaded
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[27-Jul-2006 11:00:07] <irubado> anyone know of a way to move perf info to listing of devices, next to 'PING' and 'SNMP'
[27-Jul-2006 11:00:40] <irubado> i have a group of cisco gateways, with perf monitoring Active Calls. It would be great if that info was viewable when looking at the list of devices.
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[27-Jul-2006 11:26:35] <maigaur> hell
[27-Jul-2006 11:38:43] <maigaur> o*o
[27-Jul-2006 11:44:19] <irubado> hi
[27-Jul-2006 11:44:38] <irubado> anyone in here know how to hack the status monitors?
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[27-Jul-2006 20:18:06] <giesen> anyone around?
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[28-Jul-2006 09:03:59] <zaf> morning
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[28-Jul-2006 10:27:23] <maigaur> hello
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:49] <maigaur> i need to know something
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:52] <maigaur> in zenoss menu
[28-Jul-2006 10:31:54] <maigaur> we have
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:02] <maigaur> a choice
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:10] <maigaur> services and processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:32:27] <maigaur> how can i add my processes and services in it
[28-Jul-2006 10:34:59] <creiht> maigaur: For processes you create a new process and set a regex it can use to find that process
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:17] <creiht> Then re-discover the device, and it should find that process
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:29] <maigaur> all the processes on a device
[28-Jul-2006 10:35:40] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:23] <maigaur> i created a process test
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:28] <maigaur> regex test
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:57] <creiht> Any process that matches that regex
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:58] <maigaur> regex should be the name of my process ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:36:59] <creiht> For example
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:01] <creiht> yes
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:10] <creiht> For example I monitor apache
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:17] <creiht> So I have a regex of httpd
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:25] <creiht> And it finds my apache processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:30] <maigaur> okay
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:36] <maigaur> so you set the name you want
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[28-Jul-2006 10:37:52] <maigaur> and after regex name of the process
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:55] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:37:57] <maigaur> for services
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:13] <maigaur> is there a similar way to do the same thing ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:17] <creiht> maigaur:I'm not so sure about
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:26] <creiht> I haven't added any services yet
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:32] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:45] <creiht> maigaur: I would ask ecn or edahl
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:51] <maigaur> ok
[28-Jul-2006 10:38:52] <maigaur> thx
[28-Jul-2006 10:39:08] <edahl> no services you need to discover using snmp
[28-Jul-2006 10:39:15] <edahl> ssh or portscan
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:30] <maigaur> i have found this on the internet
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.4.2.1.7
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> to detect services status
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.77.1.2.3.1.1
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:31] <maigaur> to know the name of all services which running
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:40] <maigaur> dsi13 my computer
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:44] <maigaur> i=of course
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:55] <maigaur> is it possible to add this graphically
[28-Jul-2006 10:40:56] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:14] <edahl> we can add services using WMI
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:27] <edahl> thats the 77 oid
[28-Jul-2006 10:42:38] <edahl> process table is as creiht described
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:13] <maigaur> i have add httpd for my apache too
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:20] <maigaur> how can i see it
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:27] <maigaur> on zenoss interface
[28-Jul-2006 10:43:54] <creiht> maigaur: Under the os tab
[28-Jul-2006 10:44:05] <creiht> You should see a list of processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:44:15] <creiht> You can click on it to get the performance info
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:29] <creiht> Of course if you just added it, it will be a bit before the performance data is available
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:44] <maigaur> in os
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:46] <maigaur> i have
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:49] <maigaur> interfaces
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:51] <maigaur> ip services
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:56] <maigaur> file systems
[28-Jul-2006 10:45:57] <maigaur> routes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:02] <maigaur> but no processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:17] <creiht> For me I have
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:21] <creiht> Interfaces
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:24] <creiht> Os Processes
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:27] <creiht> and then
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:29] <creiht> IP Services
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:44] <maigaur> oh
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:47] <creiht> Did you re-collect the configuration
[28-Jul-2006 10:46:54] <creiht> for that machine
[28-Jul-2006 10:47:30] <maigaur> i don t i forgot
[28-Jul-2006 10:47:31] <maigaur> :/
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:01] <maigaur> i have created one process
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:06] <maigaur> in processes menu
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:08] <maigaur> name test
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:15] <maigaur> and regex httpd
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:22] <maigaur> i collected configuration
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:24] <maigaur> but
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <maigaur> on the manage tab
[28-Jul-2006 10:52:46] <maigaur> but i stil don t have the OS processes under my device
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:36] <creiht> When you collected the configuration, did you see a message saying that it found the process?
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:58] <maigaur> don t think so
[28-Jul-2006 10:53:59] <creiht> And also just to make sure... When you created the process, did you set the Monitor attribute to True?
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <maigaur> when you add a process
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:26] <maigaur> he becomes available to all the devices ?
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:36] <creiht> yes
[28-Jul-2006 10:54:53] <creiht> You have to set Monitor to true though
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:00] <creiht> on the Process
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:27] <maigaur> zmonitor was true
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:28] <maigaur> i have
[28-Jul-2006 10:55:32] <maigaur> /osProcessClasses/test
[28-Jul-2006 10:57:58] <creiht> maigaur: Is the device that you want to monitor a Linux or Windows box?
[28-Jul-2006 10:58:14] <maigaur> i want to monitor a windows machine
[28-Jul-2006 10:58:30] <maigaur> but from a linux box, i use vmware server and client on linux
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:21] <creiht> hmmm... I haven't done process monitoring for Windows boxes yet... I'm not sure if you have to do anything differently
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:27] <creiht> pokes edahl
[28-Jul-2006 11:00:58] <edahl> we have it running on a client site no problem
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:11] <edahl> not sure that there is an http process on windows
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:28] <edahl> need to check the process list first
[28-Jul-2006 11:01:43] <creiht> maigaur: Yeah I was just going to access... If you look at the task manager on the windows box, what is the process name you want to monitor?
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:17] <maigaur> outlook
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:21] <maigaur> for example
[28-Jul-2006 11:02:57] <creiht> maigaur: Then I would set the regex to that process name
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:10] <maigaur> ok great
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:17] <maigaur> i am doing collect configuration
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:31] <maigaur> but it seems not to be working
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:33] <maigaur> at this time
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:37] <maigaur> it is very slow
[28-Jul-2006 11:09:49] <creiht> give it a moment
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:06] <maigaur> k
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:14] <maigaur> it has advanced a little bit
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:26] <maigaur> is it normal that it is slower like that ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:48] <creiht> maigaur: I'm not sure but I know that the speed varies for me
[28-Jul-2006 11:11:59] <creiht> sometimes it is slower sometimes faster
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:41] <maigaur> i still dont have processes
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:44] <maigaur> menu
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:52] <maigaur> interfaces ip Services
[28-Jul-2006 11:13:55] <maigaur> one is missing
[28-Jul-2006 11:18:28] <creiht> maigaur: Hmmm
[28-Jul-2006 11:18:58] <creiht> I'm not sure... Sorry... At this point it is beyond my knowledge of zenoss
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:33] <maigaur> edahl
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:46] <maigaur> to monitor services
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:53] <maigaur> i add the oid 77 ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:57] <maigaur> under perfconf
[28-Jul-2006 11:27:59] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:04] <maigaur> but
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:11] <maigaur> it is not datas to graph
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:19] <maigaur> how can i have a tab
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:24] <maigaur> like IP services
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:31] <maigaur> with my services up and down
[28-Jul-2006 11:28:36] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:16] <maigaur> zenoss can do all i want
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:19] <maigaur> so i am happy
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:37] <edahl> you need zenwin for windows service monitoring
[28-Jul-2006 11:29:38] <maigaur> but my final point is to have services and processes monitoring
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[28-Jul-2006 11:46:56] <maigaur> is there any other way
[28-Jul-2006 11:46:59] <maigaur> to get services
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:05] <maigaur> than installing zenoss
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:06] <maigaur> ?
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:42] <maigaur> arf
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:45] <maigaur> zenwin
[28-Jul-2006 11:47:48] <maigaur> sorry :/
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[28-Jul-2006 14:40:09] <edahl> zaf: we got the basket! thanks so much!
[28-Jul-2006 14:46:36] <edahl> landonf: you there?
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[28-Jul-2006 16:16:17] <zaf> edahl, no problem, just wanted to show our appreciation for the free help on irc
[28-Jul-2006 16:16:30] <edahl> thanks!
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[28-Jul-2006 18:06:14] <giesen> anyone know how to configure zenmib.conf?
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[29-Jul-2006 12:07:36] <giesen> Can anyone help with a PerfConfig problem?
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[30-Jul-2006 15:27:28] <giesen> how do I add a tcp service to be monitored in a server?
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[31-Jul-2006 05:12:07] <maigaur> hey
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[31-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur> hello
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[31-Jul-2006 10:09:54] <giesen> Can anyone lend a hand with getting notifications working properly?
[31-Jul-2006 10:10:09] <giesen> by properly I mean at all
[31-Jul-2006 10:12:40] <creiht> giesen: What problems are you having?
[31-Jul-2006 10:20:56] <giesen> it doesnt send mail at all
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:02] <giesen> and I cant for the life of me figure out why
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:29] <giesen> severity >= 4 and prodState = 1000
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:35] <giesen> action is Email
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:42] <giesen> enabled is true
[31-Jul-2006 10:21:47] <giesen> delay is 0
[31-Jul-2006 10:22:08] <giesen> and there's definitely some level 4 events
[31-Jul-2006 10:23:57] <creiht> giesen: Is the server linux or windows?
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:03] <giesen> linux
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:06] <giesen> gentoo to be precise
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:24] <giesen> using ssmtp as the mail daemon
[31-Jul-2006 10:24:41] <giesen> I'm just switching it out with postfix now so I can actually get some logging
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:03] <creiht> giesen: Ahh ok that was going to be my next question was to make sure you were running a mail agent
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:18] <giesen> I was able to send mail fine manually using ssmtp
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:34] <giesen> so I dont think zenoss is even trying
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:41] <giesen> but there really should be a "test alert" function
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:45] <creiht> giesen: Check $ZENHOME/log/zenactions.log
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:52] <giesen> to verify mail is working
[31-Jul-2006 10:25:57] <creiht> And see if there are any error messages
[31-Jul-2006 10:26:56] <giesen> 2006-07-31 10:24:02 INFO zen.ZenActions: processed 0 rules in 0.01 secs
[31-Jul-2006 10:27:02] <giesen> my log is *filled* with that
[31-Jul-2006 10:27:03] <creiht> hmmm
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[31-Jul-2006 10:27:31] <creiht> How long ago did you create the alert?
[31-Jul-2006 10:28:13] <giesen> ages and ages
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[31-Jul-2006 10:28:24] <giesen> like 2 days
[31-Jul-2006 10:28:26] <giesen> erm 3 days
[31-Jul-2006 10:29:20] <creiht> Well that rules out the delay for re-loading the configuration
[31-Jul-2006 10:30:44] <creiht> giesen: For grins sake... have you tried restarting zenoss?
[31-Jul-2006 10:30:49] <giesen> yep
[31-Jul-2006 10:31:07] <creiht> That is odd... Which version of zenoss are you running?
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:09] <giesen> 0.20.1
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:12] <giesen> or whatever the latest is
[31-Jul-2006 10:32:30] <creiht> gotcha
[31-Jul-2006 10:33:27] <creiht> I would watch for edahl to come in and ask him about it
[31-Jul-2006 10:34:29] <creiht> I can't think of anything else to check
[31-Jul-2006 10:39:15] <giesen> Im just trying to make sure I'm not doing anything fundamentally wrong
[31-Jul-2006 10:39:18] <giesen> since I'm new to it
[31-Jul-2006 10:40:35] <creiht> giesen: From everything you have told me it sounds like you are doing it right... I have several different alert notifications set up here and works great
[31-Jul-2006 10:40:48] <creiht> I'm just another user though
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:00] <giesen> can you tell me something
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:09] <giesen> does zenoss use the sendmail command
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:12] <giesen> to send mail
[31-Jul-2006 10:43:19] <giesen> or just connect to port 25 on the local machine
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:11] <giesen> okay
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:13] <giesen> I found the problem
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:15] <creiht> giesen: It uses the built in Zope mail functionality
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:18] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:27] <giesen> which apparently just connects to port 25 on the local machine
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:31] <giesen> which is why ssmtp wasnt working
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:35] <creiht> Ahhh
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:37] <giesen> but it's working now that I just installed postfix
[31-Jul-2006 10:44:55] <creiht> good
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:09] <giesen> well it's good now that I know what it does
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:20] <giesen> but I'd rather it use the send mail command
[31-Jul-2006 10:45:25] * giesen tries to break stuff
[31-Jul-2006 10:50:57] <creiht> giesen: I'm pretty sure that the Zope mail functionality is pluggable, so there might be a plug in out there that does that
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:24] <maigaur> hello
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:38] <maigaur> i am using zenoss for a weeks now
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:43] <maigaur> i am happy, it works
[31-Jul-2006 10:55:53] <maigaur> but i would like to monitor
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:03] <maigaur> my processes and services
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:12] <maigaur> without having to install
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:14] <maigaur> zenwin
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:20] <maigaur> i tried to add
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:23] <maigaur> manually
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:28] <maigaur> with regex
[31-Jul-2006 10:56:34] <maigaur> on the zenoss web interface
[31-Jul-2006 10:57:28] <maigaur> in the processes menu
[31-Jul-2006 10:57:36] <maigaur> but i can t see it in the OS tab :/
[31-Jul-2006 11:12:28] <giesen> yeah my next big thing will be manually adding tcp/udp ports to monitor
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[31-Jul-2006 11:41:26] <giesen> creiht: do you know what the Escalate Count in a threshold is?
[31-Jul-2006 11:42:22] <creiht> giesen: After an event has been received the number of times in Escalate Count in a row, it will up the severity one notch
[31-Jul-2006 11:43:42] <creiht> Another way to put it, if you are running the polling defaults, is that after n minutes of an event, the severity of the event will be escalated
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:46] <giesen> ah ok
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:53] <giesen> I figured it was something like that
[31-Jul-2006 11:44:58] <giesen> but I figured it was more like seconds
[31-Jul-2006 11:45:28] <creiht> Well it it by the number of events, and by default things are polled every minute
[31-Jul-2006 11:45:33] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:17] <creiht> You can tell it how long to delay (in seconds) before sending you an alert notification when defining that alert
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:29] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 11:46:39] <giesen> how do you define the polling interval?
[31-Jul-2006 11:50:09] <creiht> giesen: I'm not completely sure... I tried playing with that once, and I lost my performance graphs
[31-Jul-2006 11:50:20] <creiht> ecn or edahl should be able to help you with that
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[31-Jul-2006 14:58:39] <giesen> ah I looked in the release notes for trunk
[31-Jul-2006 14:58:48] <giesen> it specifically tells you you have to delete your graphs
[31-Jul-2006 14:58:58] <giesen> if you change the polling interval
[31-Jul-2006 14:59:08] <giesen> I managed to break my notification again
[31-Jul-2006 14:59:29] * giesen sends in a feature request
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[31-Jul-2006 15:22:51] <rputzler> Anyone run across any documentation regarding how to setup rrd templates? I set one up but it is never getting used.
[31-Jul-2006 15:55:22] <giesen> yeah I had the same problem
[31-Jul-2006 15:55:29] <giesen> you have to rename it to "Device"
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[31-Jul-2006 16:01:29] <rputzler> Hmm, I did that it worked, but what I haven't figured out is how to get different devices to use different templates.
[31-Jul-2006 16:07:56] <giesen> yeah Im still learning things too
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:08] <giesen> I have no idea how to get them to use different templates
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:16] <giesen> I tried making a local copy of a template for one device
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:22] <edahl_> you need to override the template further down in the device class path
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:25] <giesen> because it kept complaining about my /dev filesystem being full
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:34] <giesen> but it still keeps warning me
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:48] <giesen> and I still dont have notifications working
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:52] <edahl_> on a device you can go to its PerfConf tab and hit copy local to implement a template on that device
[31-Jul-2006 16:08:54] <giesen> cant figure out why I'm not getting emais
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:18] <giesen> edahl_: I did that, and removed all the data sources, thresholds, and graphs for /dev
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:28] <giesen> and it's still generating events
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:31] <giesen> about /dev being full
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:39] <edahl_> hum
[31-Jul-2006 16:10:58] <edahl_> you can also hit the monitored flag for a filesystem
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:02] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:04] <giesen> I set it to false
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:22] <giesen> and that wouldnt be so bad
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:23] <edahl_> zenperfsnmp has a config cycle of 20 mins by default
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:32] <giesen> except it's generating events and not emailing me!
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:35] <giesen> haha
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:42] <edahl_> it can take that long to flush out of the system
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:49] <giesen> yeah I made the changes last night
[31-Jul-2006 16:11:56] <edahl_> or you can restart zenperfsnmp
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:19] <giesen> okay, I tried that, we'll see how it goes
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:27] <giesen> can you help me with notifications
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:33] <giesen> I set severity >= 1
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:38] <giesen> 0 delay
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:41] <giesen> action email
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:43] <giesen> enabled true
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:46] <giesen> on the admin user
[31-Jul-2006 16:13:49] <giesen> and still nothing
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:12] * edahl_ set severity to something like >= 4
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:23] <giesen> well I'm trying to eliminate variables
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:26] <edahl_> that way you won't get paged by the filesystem thing
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:29] <edahl_> evetn
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:29] <giesen> so if severity is at 1
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:36] <edahl_> 1 is low
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:38] <giesen> I know there's something being generated
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:40] <giesen> yes I know
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:42] <edahl_> 5 is high
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:43] <giesen> my problem is
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:43] <rputzler> I modified the device farther down the class path, when I look back at the top level device it looks the same. I can't make a local copy of a template for every device there are too many devices.
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:47] <giesen> Im not getting ANY notifications
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:53] <giesen> I'd be happier if that /dev thing was bugging me
[31-Jul-2006 16:14:57] <giesen> and I was getting emails about it
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:06] <giesen> than it just generating events and not getting any emails
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:33] <giesen> hmm
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:39] <giesen> it seems to be working now
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:48] <giesen> may restarting zenperfsnmp unbroke something
[31-Jul-2006 16:15:51] <giesen> *maybe
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:17] <giesen> edahl_: is there any way to change the email address zenoss sends from?
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:29] <giesen> it keeps using zenoss@machine.domain.dom
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:34] <giesen> instead of zenoss@domain.dom
[31-Jul-2006 16:21:46] <giesen> even though I've set send from on my postfix
[31-Jul-2006 16:24:27] <rputzler> I think I see what I'm doing wrong. Just chalk up my questions to stupid users syndrome.
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:24] <giesen> edahl_: is the mibs database actually used for anything?
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:31] <giesen> I ended up making a UPS template
[31-Jul-2006 16:25:37] <giesen> but had to fill in all the mibs manually
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:16] <edahl_> the data sources with oids you mean?
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:26] <edahl> that's a drag
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:31] <edahl> I know
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:48] <giesen> it'd be ideal if you could browse the mib database
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <giesen> and check the relevant oids
[31-Jul-2006 16:28:59] <giesen> and copy them to your template
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:06] <edahl> new version has mib parsing
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:16] <edahl> but only uses it for trap processing
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:24] <edahl> perf stuff will follow
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:41] <giesen> nice
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:45] <giesen> I'm loving zenoss so much
[31-Jul-2006 16:29:51] <giesen> it's such a rich nms
[31-Jul-2006 16:30:10] <giesen> I tried opennms but it was more of a network device/ping nms
[31-Jul-2006 16:30:17] <giesen> I like the drill down detail on zenoss
[31-Jul-2006 16:31:08] <rputzler> I'm replacing opennms with zenoss right now. zenoss is far easier to manage and understand for my support staff.
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:11] <giesen> only disadvantage to opennms is it's a huge pig on resources
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:14] <giesen> but I can live with that
[31-Jul-2006 16:32:22] <giesen> hardware is cheap
[31-Jul-2006 16:33:33] <rputzler> Any ideas on how many devices can be monitored? I currently monitor 500 devices/interfaces with opennms and it barely breaks a sweat.
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:02] <giesen> no idea
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:05] <giesen> I have about 50 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:10] <giesen> and it's using about a gig and a half of ram
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:20] <giesen> but its baseload is pretty high
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:34] <giesen> I dont know how much additional ram it'll use as you add devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:44] <edahl> our biggest site has 1500 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:34:48] <edahl> right now
[31-Jul-2006 16:35:24] <rputzler> What kind of hardware it zenoss running on for the 1500 device site?
[31-Jul-2006 16:36:02] <creiht> giesen: Which process is using that much memory? That seems a bit high
[31-Jul-2006 16:36:07] <edahl> many boxes
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:09] <edahl> gig and half of ram is way more than it should be
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:47] <creiht> My Python process is using 20MB according to top
[31-Jul-2006 16:37:56] <creiht> And I'm monitoring close to 50 devices
[31-Jul-2006 16:38:55] <rputzler> With many boxes do you have many copies of zenoss running independently managing different networks? Is there a central console concept to the gui?
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:06] <edahl> most boxes run perf collection
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:16] <edahl> zope is central box with console
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:29] <edahl> and a few other parts like ping
[31-Jul-2006 16:40:39] <rputzler> Sweet. I was hoping for that kind of answer.
[31-Jul-2006 16:41:25] <rputzler> This product rocks. I wish I new python, ever need any ruby development help?
[31-Jul-2006 16:41:59] <edahl> not yet
[31-Jul-2006 16:42:00] <edahl>
[31-Jul-2006 16:43:09] <rputzler> Yeah I new that was coming.
[31-Jul-2006 16:44:08] <creiht> rputzler: Just learn Python... you will be glad you did
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:16] <giesen> edahl: when do you expect we'll be able to manually add tcp services to monitor?
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:48] <edahl> well we can collect via portscan, ssh and snmp
[31-Jul-2006 16:48:56] <edahl> isn't that enough
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:32] <edahl> the hard part about manual entry is that we have to handle it mixed with auto-discovery
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:34] <creiht> edahl: Did I hear you guys say last week that you were going to make another release this week?
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:41] <edahl> tomorrow
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:45] <creiht> cool
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:51] <edahl> 0.22 is pretty much done in trunk
[31-Jul-2006 16:49:57] <creiht> I'll hold off on updating till then
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:00] <edahl> ecn is running pychecker against it
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:06] <creiht> cool
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:08] <giesen> python is eating up the majority of my memory
[31-Jul-2006 16:50:40] <giesen> most of python processes are 40MB or more
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:04] <giesen> Mem: 2074352k total, 1295152k used, 779200k free, 329900k buffers
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:13] <creiht> Wooho... Graphical alert creation
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:20] <giesen> on a 640 MB box
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:21] <creiht> giesen: if you do
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:26] <giesen> the thing was using a gig of swap
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:28] <creiht> ps -aux | grep Python
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:40] <creiht> There should be a column that has the memory usafe
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:43] <creiht> err usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:46] <creiht> in %
[31-Jul-2006 16:51:51] <creiht> What does it show?
[31-Jul-2006 16:52:32] <giesen> zenmodeler is using about 5%
[31-Jul-2006 16:52:41] <giesen> zenperfsnmp about 10%
[31-Jul-2006 16:53:35] <giesen> zenoss 29291 10.6 1.1 85960 23372 ? Sl 16:12 4:15 /data/zenoss/bin/python /data/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:13] <creiht> 10.6 is cpu usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:16] <creiht> 1.1 is memory usage
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:54] <creiht> I would do just a plain
[31-Jul-2006 16:54:56] <creiht> ps -aux
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:20] <creiht> and look at what is using the most memory
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:38] <giesen> erm yeah
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:39] <giesen> sorry
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:43] <giesen> I got the columns mixed up
[31-Jul-2006 16:55:57] <giesen> /usr/bin/python2.4 /data/zenoss/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:03] <giesen> looks like that's the winnar at 4.8%
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:25] <creiht> What else do you have running on that system
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:31] <giesen> most of the othe proceses are at like 1%
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:31] <creiht> That doesn't seem like a whole lot
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:37] <giesen> nothing
[31-Jul-2006 16:56:41] <giesen> just postfix and zenoss
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:00] <giesen> about 300 MB of mem is being used up by buffers
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:21] <giesen> lemme reboot the system
[31-Jul-2006 16:57:25] <giesen> and I'll give you baseload
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[31-Jul-2006 17:06:31] <giesen> using about 128 MB after a reboot
[31-Jul-2006 17:06:35] <giesen> before zenoss is started
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:13] <creiht> edahl: Now that default polling is going to 5 minutes, have you guys given any more thought to adding different polling schedules once the device is down (for example when a service has gone down, poll every 30 seconds for the next 5 minutes to see if it comes back up)
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:25] <giesen> edahl: snmp isnt discovering all the services on the box
[31-Jul-2006 17:08:52] <giesen> and I dont know if you can check for things like tftp
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:06] <edahl> snmp should get tftp
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:21] <edahl> creiht: we backed out of that change to default poll
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:32] <edahl> because of the rrd issue
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:39] <creiht> ahhh
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:40] <creiht> ok
[31-Jul-2006 17:09:44] <edahl> I need to update release notes
[31-Jul-2006 17:10:53] <giesen> edahl: edahl would it make a difference if it was running via xinetd?
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[31-Jul-2006 17:11:19] <edahl> hum yes that would most likely do it
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:24] <edahl> I'm not sure
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:33] <edahl> if you do netstat -an does it show up?
[31-Jul-2006 17:11:51] <giesen> no
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:02] <giesen> also
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:08] <edahl> hum that must be it
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:09] <giesen> Id like to be able to monitor the port on my kvm
[31-Jul-2006 17:12:14] <giesen> dell 2161ds
[31-Jul-2006 17:13:55] <giesen> ip kvm that is
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:22] <giesen> man I really got more than I bargained for
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:30] <giesen> getting about 2 emails/second right now
[31-Jul-2006 17:15:54] <edahl> change severity in your alert rule
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:02] <edahl> to >= 4 or = 5
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:12] <edahl> then you only get highest stuff
[31-Jul-2006 17:16:47] <zaf> the dell one is a rebranded avocent which comes up fine
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[31-Jul-2006 17:18:21] <giesen> yeah
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:28] <giesen> Im not worried aobut the alerts
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:33] <giesen> I know exactly how to fix that
[31-Jul-2006 17:18:55] <giesen> zaf snmp does
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:01] <giesen> the actual port it uses doesnt
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:35] <giesen> all I've got is snmp listed in the IP Services
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:40] <giesen> same thing on my tftp box
[31-Jul-2006 17:19:47] <giesen> which is why I want the ability to manually add services
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:03] <giesen> and the ability to add nagios plugs would just be sexy beyond belief
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:26] <zaf> ah
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:45] <zaf> would be nice to customize the device pages with links to log into the devices too
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:46] <giesen> I mean sure, if snmp's up, and the thing is pingable, it's probably okay
[31-Jul-2006 17:20:59] <giesen> but it'd be nice to be able to go the extra mile
[31-Jul-2006 17:21:04] <giesen> and see that the port is actually open and working
[31-Jul-2006 17:21:18] <giesen> and I'd to be able to monitor whether SIP is running on my cluster
[31-Jul-2006 17:22:10] <ecn> there's a high probability that nagios plugins will be available in the next release (this week)
[31-Jul-2006 17:22:22] <ecn> 'cause I just finished coding it 8-)
[31-Jul-2006 17:23:49] <giesen> nice
[31-Jul-2006 17:24:19] <ecn> right now it only does alerts: _no_ performance gathering (RRD Graphs)
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[31-Jul-2006 18:12:02] <giesen> does zenoss do dependencies?
[31-Jul-2006 18:27:00] <gravitron> how do you change the polling interval for performance information? is this something that can be set at a host or path level?
[31-Jul-2006 18:34:52] <giesen> you can change it
[31-Jul-2006 18:34:56] <giesen> I think it's global though
[31-Jul-2006 18:35:05] <giesen> and if you change it, you have to throw out all your rrd data
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[31-Jul-2006 19:52:26] <gravitron> any developers around?
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